The Season with Peter Schrager: Bills GM Brandon Beane

The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Season with Peter Schrager. We are now in the second week of August. Preseason football is upon us. There's a full slate of games this weekend. We already had the Hall of Fame game last Thursday, the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies. Hard Knocks's premiere in this week Football's here, like football is here and it feels good.

I have, except for Tenant and surprisingly Interstellar I also haven't seen, which I've heard is great, but it's great.

I am a Chris Nolan fan, but I'm not one of those guys who's rushing to the theater the first night However, my wife, my son, my daughter are away. This week, I had an open night. A lot of guys decided to go out and rage with their friends. I call my friend and say, can we please go see Oppenheimer? It's three hours long. I don't think I have three hours open the rest of the year. Have you been to the movie theater called the Ipiic in

Guy.

We look up at the IPIC there like there's a six fifteen showing, but there's only two seats available, and those two seats are on something that is basically a Shay lounge, and the three of us together together, and it was in the first row. So a three hour movie. Cuddling with my friend Alex, watching the movie with my neck just ninety degrees. And let me tell you something, I freaking loved it. I loved it, loved it. I loved it. I loved it. It was awesome. There's been

I think it's yeah, I don't know. I think it's Silly and Murphy.

I remember seeing him in that movie Red Eye with like Rachel McAdams, so they going like years ago and being like that guy's spooky looking. Well, he's amazing as Jay Robert Oppenheimer. If he's not nominated for Best Picture, Robert Downey Junior as Best Supporting Actor, and I'm gonna throw in Emily Blunt as Best Supporting Actress, I would be shocked. All three of them were amazing. I love the film, and of course Nolan not only directed it,

I know it's tough because they don't always not everyone plays a ton, but do you have any player in particular on the Lions roster you see on Friday.

I want to see if Gibbs plays, right, that was the guy that yeah, yeah, that just loved him. Yeah yeah, Holmes loved him. He's a top fifteen pick.

You know.

Then there's other stories because like I've been doing my research and I've fallen in love with a wide receiver who I think my play a lout in the second half named Dylan Drummond. Drummond story is cool, Aaron, real quick before we get to our guests here, it is. You'll like this, all right. Never was all conference in anything at Eastern Michigan in the MAC. He was like this under the radar. Guy doesn't get the comm bye, nothing like draft weekend. He's golfing the entire time, doesn't

Nice, Well, I'm excited to watch him now.

Yeah, and watch Thedetroit Lions dot Com broadcast. Plenty of other stuff going on. We'll hit it throughout the next couple of weeks, but all your teams are on this weekend. Enjoy it. It also means it's the end of NFL Network sending people all over to camps and having them in their polo shirts and the director's chair and interviewing the players and getting great soundbites. It's been fun. My funniest video of the week that I loved was Scott

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I'm like NFL Plus has all sorts of stuff, and I appreciate like analytics programs and and here's a game preview from this analyst. I might not click on any of that stuff if you told me there's a Scott Hansen weekly show where he goes to different NFL facilities and tries out the bathrooms and just tells us and does like a review as if he's like Dave Portnoy, you know, I think Jamie heard all said it great.

How you doing? Buddy?

Doing great?

Appreciate you having me all like always, Buddy.

I love having you on. I think you're the first recurring guest in the history of this podcast. We've had lots of coaches, lots of coordinators, lots of gms, but you're the first guy I've ever asked to come back on because I loved how much fun we had on the first one, and now you're here for the second one,

Yeah, I mean, I enjoy training camp. I enjoyed up here in Rochester. It's a great setup here Saint John Fisher. It's you know, every team is its own team. You have a lot of the same players, but every team forms its own bond. And uh those teams that bond together. I go back to the teams that we had success on in Carolina, the team that we had that made it to the AFC Championship a couple of years ago. Like,

At camp away, you're just kind of on your own.

You're in drm rooms, you're you're hanging out the cafeteria, whatever it is. So I enjoy it, but it is getting to the point where, uh, you know, I know the guys are starting to get tired of hitting each other, and so they're ready to hit someone else. And uh so and plus from my standpoint, I know that the pass rushers know Dion Dawkins move or Spencer Brown's move or vice versa.

Let me see them get some you know, some fresh meet and how how they you? You know from that standpoint, Yeah.

You guys are one of the few teams left that actually travels for training camp. Obviously the Cowboys and we can name a few. The advantage of going to like a college campus and being Josh Allen and von Miller needs to be in dorms for two weeks. Like the advantage of that though, give me the give me the plus four it because I remember covering the Giants when all the big fellows are argue just it was over.

Yeah, I mean I think our football ops, guys, Brendan Rugs are DFO. I think they do a great job of getting bigger beds in here they find so the guys aren't sleeping in true dorm beds like you think eat his dorm rooms. So we're not at the ritz Carlton by any means. But it's not a long stretch and I just think, like I said earlier, the bonding having to just you know, no one's trying to rush home. No one's wife's all or girlfriend or whatever. Hey, we

I would imagine the star players don't have roommates or do they.

No, they don't.

You know, we we bunked some of the young guys, but no, none of the guys.

Josh Allen is not like.

Micah and Jordan there. They got their own room, so they're they're in good shape from that stamp.

Yeah, you mentioned last year at the end, like the adversity. I've gotten through it a million times on our show. I've talked about our pocket like there was there you understandably nothing left in the tank by the end. No, it's not an excuse. It's just no team I can remember in recent years has gone through a two month span with all the weather stuf, and then tomorrow and just straight through to the end of the season where

No, I think you know, as I said, every teams a new team, and it's our job to learn from what Yes, there was adversity, there was things that come up, but it's what you do with it and how you take that and the scars of not winning. You know that trophy that the Chiefs, you know won again last season. It's it's it's what you do with it, learn from the mistakes, things we could have done better. Yes, there was adversity, but there's things we could have handled ourselves

Everyone's looking ahead to this season and.

Trying to make sure that we don't repeat, you know the mistakes that ultimately cost us, you know, a chance of the Super Bowl.

When we had you on last time. You took us step by step through the drafting of Josh Allen and how convicted you guys were, and we're gonna make this move. We're gonna get this guy. We're gonna do it. And we found our guy, Dalton Kincaid. Everywhere I looked in the mock drafts, everyone I talked to you said, Okay, look, Kincaid and probably Myers, the Notre Dame kid, they're probably

Yeah, I mean, we really liked Dalton a lot. We tried not to get it out there.

We tried to keep our cards close to the vest, and you know, you do pay attention to macks for a lot of reasons, one to kind of prepare who you think is gonna be.

They're not that they're gonna have every team.

But if again, if you're looking at thirty mocks and every single one of them has a you know, Will Anderson going before you pick, you don't really you know, need to go too deep. It's usually pretty accurate. And so you know, no one really was projecting Dalton. Does people you know, have some guards, people had some receivers, you know, And so it was kind of I felt like we laid under the radar there from that standpoint. And again probably ten days, two weeks somewhere in there,

And I thought ten days out, I was like, we got a good chance at Dalton. I really did.

But but then as I'm starting to do my homework and things were running close, so I'm starting to hear Dalton going in the teens and he's not going to get past this team and you know, barely past twenty and so at that point you're you're making, you know, alternative plans if he doesn't get to you, you know, whether you trade back or could someone else that you

What were the machinations of that trade? Because I remember with Giants, Jacksonville, the Ravens, there's all these teams. Are you on the phone calling you know, all of them and saying, let's trade for the pick? Or is it one of these where they call you and said do you want to trade back?

Yeah?

I mean the day of the draft, you know, I had guys checking around, but I had you know, Jacksonville was one of the teams that said they might be open to move back.

The Giants.

You know, I talked to Joe and he said, you know, he thought they might be willing to move back.

And I said, listen.

I again, by that day, I didn't think he would be there.

I said, honestly, I think we're probably going back with you know, and not going up.

That was my you know, truthful feeling if I, if I was putting odds in Vegas that I would go back. But then it got you know, when he got past like twenty one, you know, or so I was like, man, we got a chance here.

And the run of wide receivers was starting.

It was starting, and so I called Joe and said, hey, what do you think We'd already nailed down what it would be so we didn't.

Have to argue beforehand. You're like, it's hypothetically, this.

Is what we're going to do. That way, we don't have to argue about it. You're an agreement. I'm in agreement.

And he's like, well, listen, I'll do it if if if our guy's gone or whatever. And so I'm like, all right, well, then next thing I know, he texts me. He goes we're moving up and he's Jackson just gotten on the clock.

You're like what.

So before it was announced publicly, I started calling Trent Balky and saying, you know, ultimately, you know, trimp I know you're trading here.

What what will you? You know? What can we do? And he he didn't want to trade the pick.

I really didn't, but Joe and then made their pick and then he said, I'll call you back. And so it went back and forth several calls, and he basically made me tell him who we.

Were going to pick, and you had to be honest and I had.

To shoot him straight and I would never lie in that standpoint, from a trust standpoint, and he was nervous about it, but he was willing to do it, and he still got the tackle they wanted and we got done.

It's so fun. And I know I'm on the media side and the fans listening are like, but it is as simple as that, as Hey, you and Joe are like, there's a chance this might happen. We've got three days here before the draft. We're killing time. Let's work out the deal now, as opposed to doing it on the clock. And then he has to text you and be like, we're actually moving up. We like bangs out of Maryland.

Yeah, we were.

You know, we really liked him through the process and just thought he'd be a great fit for here.

And and you know, he's.

A smart kid, he's still an up and commoner and just you know, pairing him with Dawson Knox, you know, we thought could give us another added dimension that teams have to defend.

You know, we don't. We don't. We haven't used twelve person al a lot.

So this gave us a chance to add that to Ken Dorsey's you know, kind of his playbook.

Yeah, you're not going anywhere. You and Sean both are pretty secure in that market, and you have this team together. The stability of both the two of you guys together. When you speak to your team and when you address the the younger guys and maybe some of the veterans, and they know that you're not going anywhere. How important is that for you guys to come and know that, hey, year to year, there's some consistency here. We're building something.

Yeah, I mean it's I tell you when when I interviewed for the job, you know, Sean was already there.

I'm interviewing with the Beagoulas.

And you know, so I'm talking to Terry and Kim getting to know him, and one of the things I brought up was stability. You know, I said, you know, I felt like the AFC East teams were doing Bill Belichick a favor by constantly turned over.

I said, you know, it's two things.

One, you haven't found a quarterback this organization since Jim Kelly. So first and foremost, we have to start that plan, you know, if you're going to hire me, And then I want to know, like Kim, we this is the plan. This is not an overnight thing. You know, as I begin to work with Sean and we share ideas, you know, if you're going to hire me to start working with Sean, you know, I think we see things pretty similarly. From from what I know about Sean. We haven't gotten deep

Yeah, and those fans want it. AFC East is interesting because for years I felt like it was just the Patriots, and then now it's like your time. The Bills are the team. Dolphins had a great season last year. Obviously, you guys beat them in the playoffs. At the end this pass offseason, the Jets loaded up. They're obviously going to be a factor. The Patriot rates are still looming. You look at this gauntlet and then your schedule, which is also the NFC East. Is the AFC East as

Yeah. I think it's from top to bottom.

It's as competitive as as you know, I can remember it even back when I was in the NFC. Just the Patriots dominated for so long, and so I think everyone knew, you know, we got to, you know, make make bold moves.

And I think all teams have done it.

Yes, Miami, you know, unfortunately too was out for them, and they're you know.

Playing Skylar Thompson, rookie quarterback. The kid played a heck of the.

Game played well against you guys.

Really the game was in the balance well into the fourth quarter for US holding on and so you know, obviously we lose.

Next week the Jets. The Jets beat us there.

It was a tight game here, you know, and now you add an MVP guy and Aaron Rodgers just that move along, I get it why people are picking them to be in the Super Bowl, like it's fair. And again, the Dolphins with Tua back, are going to be They beat us down there with Tua, and we had a tight game that we won, uh in Buffalo's, so I expected to be a dogfight New England.

You know Bill Belichick, greatest coach of all time.

You had Bill O'Brien who's had a lot of great offensive success, you know, down Obama, but in Houston and in New England. So I don't know if there's a tougher division. Maybe someone would argue maybe the NFC North or something.

But yeah, maybe NFC North might be more more contested, I would say, But as far as strength of team, I think it's a FC North and a FC East this year in my view.

That's that's that's the way I see it.

And again you're you're right, we're also playing, uh, the NFC East and the Eagles. They're a tough team. The Giants had a heck of a run. Dablon Joe done a heck of a job there, cow Balls really good.

And then your boy Ron, Yeah.

You know, I think Marty and Ron have done a heck of a job that team. You know, if you just look at their you just look at their but they've got to figure out is Sam how the guy?

Yeah, I know that's what they got to prove.

We we liked him as well, but you know that's going to be a contested division, you know in the NFC East.

A couple of questions quickly and then I want to have some rapid fire stuff about you personally. But uh, the von Miller like time is that does every day? I haven't been following you guys on a dayt dabasis are the locals asking you that every single day and asking Sean like, what's the latest of vonn When's he gonna be ready? Or is it pretty established in your building that he's going to be good to go? And he's good to go?

Yeah, I think we're just you know, we're definitely having conversations not every day with vond but every week checking in. He's doing his daily stuff with you know, our medical team and rehab, and he's in a great spot mentally. He's been through an ACO before, so he knows the process. It's more than just the physical rehabit's the it's the mental part of it.

Too, And so.

You know, we're not saying whether he could play Week one or not not out of the question.

You know, I would you know right now, probably coin toss is probably the best way he could.

I think you would sign up for that a couple of weeks ago.

Right, Yeah, I know Vaughn wants to play in it. You know, he's still got to be clear. Doctor Cooper out in Texas did his surgery, so he still got to get final clearance there, and so we'll just we'll take it slow with him. We've tried to beef up around in case he's not ready to handle that.

But we'll probably know a little closer to the season.

Running back room is interesting. Obviously Singletary was there for years, not there now. Around the league that was such a conversation, And there are teams like the forty nine ers who have Christian McCaffrey, who you know very well and is an outstanding player and gets a lot of paid money, and Derrick Henry and even Saquon for his one year

Yeah. I mean, listen, you always want the best players.

I mean, you're not going to turn down I was there in Carolina we drafted Christian McCaffrey, so a heck of a talent. You know, great move by San Francisco kind of helped turn their season around last year. So you're always looking to add good players like that no matter what position.

But it is you do have to pick and choose.

You know, when you're picking at the bottom of the round, you know your cap constraints. You're paying a quarterback. You've got to pick some areas where you know what we'll go with, you know, a less expensive model, whether it's draft capital or you know, signing. You know, a veteran, you know for you know, a reasonable price. And so we liked how James Cook played last year, especially down

Us, he said, well against you guys best.

Games, So at least I don't have to worry about that. But hopefully he'll do that for us. And so he just had some health hiccups along the way. That's probably been his biggest issue, not how he plays. And Latavius Murray had a really good year last year. We brought him in born and raised in Syracuse, plays in Florida, but he grew up a Bills fan, so it's been

You know, Latavius, our show has been on since twenty sixteen when he was on The Raiders. Latavius used to come on our show and he had such a good time on our show. He was in New York and asked can I come on? And he said, well, actually, Nate Burleson's out, do you want to host, and so twenty sixteen version of Latavius Murray was a host on our show. We had a blast, he had thoughts, he

That's funny. I told him.

It was like, I thought your film was even better last year and pore he talked about some training methods he did.

I thought he really started on New Orleans practice squad.

They play him in a game, then Denver plucks him and he's a big time leader. He's a big, old school heavy body back, you know, I think a good compliment to you know, to the other guys we.

Have in the room.

The Dig stuff, was that all just you know, people trying to fill headlines or is everything? I mean, you know what I'm talking about When he was tweeting and I can't even follow it, to be honest, because I'm just like, that's a wide receiver. Stefan Dig's a great guy, great teammate. I'm not going to get caught up with this. But then there was rumors that he wants out and the Giants were interested. I don't even you tell me.

Yeah, we're We're in a great I think STEP's in a great spot. We're in a great spot. I think sometimes you just you know, season's end end abruptly, and when you work as hard as he or others on this team do, and you come up short, like we did last season, you leave frustrated. You don't get to come back for a week and hang out and talk about how it finished or whatever. Everybody kind of go is their merry ways. So like anything, there can be a lot of smoke in the off season and people

I don't. I don't see anything.

I think it's more I think it's more for the outside noise than than what actually goes.

You know, there are certain morning TV shows that need to fill three hours every day in June Brandon, so.

Turn around. But now it's been good. It's been good to have step back in here.

All right, quick stuff about you, because I love this. If I lived in Buffalo, I think I would weigh six hundred pounds. And I say that just because of the food and how good it is and the wings. And when I came up in the in the winter for a game, you and I got together. We went to a spot and even remember what it was called. We had some wings. It was fine. But then when I said the place that we were going there, every single person I spoke to was like, no, you gotta

Well mcdermot's in a lot better shape than I am. I'm trending the wrong way fast, just trying to tread water.

Just ask my kids. They tell me I'm fat. I am all the time.

That term treading water is basically my August diet. Just treaded water. Put me through it.

Man, It's it's fun. But now it's I do like wings. I am particular.

You got a spot.

There's some good spots, but bar Bill is my spot.

Everyone says this, as there's one in Rochester too. I think I've been tested, I've been tweeted. All right, they just opened it, all right, commercial for barb Bill. Tell me why it's the good. It's the best wings. Do you go straight barbecue or buffalo or do you have like one of these crazy like honey terry, Yucky Malibu blaze, Like I don't do that stuff.

Cajun honey butter barbecue.

Cajun honey butter barbecue. My mouth is watering. That sounds incredible.

Yeah.

Uh. They also have just regular honey butter barbecue if you don't like. My wife likes those because she doesn't like the spice to it.

But either one's great. I generally like the.

Little kick to mine. But they got a great Lagger beer as well. It's just it's a great place.

But the wings are Is it crispy wing or is it like a smothered in saucewan. I don't like a crispy like crunch. I like a smothered in sauce wings.

More smothered in sauce.

Okay.

And it's just it's hard to say. They literally like brush brush it on. It's just it's truly is.

Is like you're going there tonight. I can tell them by the way we're talking. I think you like that lust in your eyes thinking about it.

You're trying to to start thinking about me salivating here.

In a minute. Uh.

Okay, Your your journey, which I've talked about before, is amazing because you didn't start off being a general manager in the NFL. You actually took a different route real quick for the listeners, the public relation side of the Carolina Panthers and how you made the jump because we had Brad Holmes on earlier this summer and he told us his story and I was so inspired by it, same kind of thing PR of the Saint Louis Rams and made the jump from PR to the scouting department.

Yeah?

I did six weeks for PR, basically a training camp that was back when training camp was six weeks.

We got there.

Where was it was it in Carolina?

It was in Carolinas. Yeah, we were Wafford College, Spartan Burks out Wawford. Yeah.

So it was there through the whole preseason and then and then moved over to football Ops for the season.

I was kind of doing a little bit of player development.

I was helping the equipment guys, like I was folding tiles, helping a practice. And then halfway through the season they started traveling me on the road to help the equipment guys. I'm holding rain jackets and things for the guys that rub their cleats all and like whatever need to be done.

Who is your most notable pick up at the airport when like a big name free agent came in, Do you have a good story.

Oh yeah, I had the funniest visit ever. I had a few. But we brought in on the same day Charles Haley and Nate Newton.

Carolina.

I don't remember this to Carolina. So Charles Haley did not sign. I think he ended up signing Detroit, but we signed Nate Newton. That was his last year.

Okay, So they both get off the same flight from Dallas, like where are they?

They were not on the same flight, but they knew each other. But they Oh, they obviously knew each other. If you had like one of those cameras in a van. I can't repeat all what was said.

Uh, there was.

There was a lot of stuff, but it was We had a lot of laughs.

And uh it was.

Cool because as a kid, I'm watching these guys grow up fresh out of college and I'm taking a for a physical and.

They're busting each other's chops.

They're telling stories again because they were back together, and I spent an evening, you know, getting them to the hotel and I picked them up at like six thirty in the morning, take them for the physical, they meet the coach, then I take them for lunch, and then they go back and meet some meet some more coaches, and I take them back to the airport and basically Nate Newton's telling them, hey, man, I'm gonna sign here.

I'm telling Marty like, well, I think.

Newton's in fence.

Yeah, he's trying to convince him.

And so it was definitely we covered some r rated and beyond of their life, but it was that was probably the most notable. But I picked up Reggie White as well from that, right, Yeah, yeah, he finished in Carolina as well. One of the nicest.

People in the world, and it was sad that his life and the way it did.

But yeah, he was telling me get him, get him out there, pick him up early. He wanted to get in the hot tub for forty minutes to get himself loose, and yes, you know, it's just it was cool. So definitely had some some characters.

Eric Swan.

Eric Swan, which is one of my favorite football stories of all time, did not play college football with a six overall pick from the cars.

Yeah, so I was around some cool news. It was it was fun. You learn a lot.

You also knew a young Steve Smith, right, Yes, yes it was young. What was twenty something? Steve Smith like.

Even more unfiltered, That's what I would say. But I love him.

His heart was always genuine. You knew where Steve never hid how he felt. Still really doesn't today. But I would say, Steve, you're still getting a filtered version of Steve. I've seen many unfiltered versions. In the two thousand and one was as unfiltered as a game.

Yeah, I love all this stuff. Your one piece of advice to a kid who approaches you in the elevator at the combine and says, excuse me, stir. Here's my resume printed out. I'm twenty two years old. I just graduated from John Carroll or I went to Amhurst, and I want to get into being a GM and I drove myself to Indianapolis. What would be your one piece of advice for me getting into the league.

Yeah, I mean to me, it is hard, it really is. But go get experience wherever you're at. If you're in college, go work in the athletic office. If you've got a football program there, go work for there. If you've got a minor league baseball team in town, like, just get skins on the wall. Work with different people. A You're going to meet different people from different walks of life.

So you gotta love it. It's crazy hours.

You got to make sure if you're getting married, girl, you know, a wife or husband or whatever it is, that they are on board the weekends, because I've seen many get in a few years in their their their other half does not like the schedule, and it starts causing some friction and they got to make a move.

Be there tomorrow, Brandon, I love this. And back to the significant other thing. Here's what I've learned now that I've got two kids and you've obviously your great dad. Be present when you are around, right, make the most of that time, because that's a major compromise. I'm not going to be you know, I'm not going to be there for any weekends over the football season. But hey, I've got a rare job where there are a couple of weeks in June in early July where I am around,

Oh, you got to, you could, because you're going to be a better employee for the organization if if your home life's good and you're doing everything there, if you're if you're leaving things out and you don't want to regret We've seen it in this in this sport where you hear coaches or you know whatever, executives that didn't wann't really around their kids and they missed their whole their whole livelihood or they're you know, watching them play

You know, it's very important for me to.

Make sure to tell our staff here, and I know Sean does as well as Listen, we got plenty of hours, but if your kids playing a game and you can get there, it's not going to interfere with this job. I expect you to be there. It will be pissed if you If.

You do, I love that.

Yeah, So it's you.

Gotta you gotta have that that that balance because it's hard enough as it is with the hour. So when you can get home and support your you know, your significant other and definitely your kids, that's huge.

You know.

The last thing you want to do is be great at work and screw it up at home.

Man, that's great. My last one with you because I texted you earlier this summer that I'm picking up golf for the first time. I've told the podcast listeners my wife has a gift bought me clubs. I got the clubs I got in the course, and I've been trying to mooch off people to be invited to their clubs. I've played the public courses. I've done it all. I've been trying. I'm terrible. But you you've always been playing. So I'm gonna ask you three golf questions. Rattle them

Oh, that's a great one.

Probably Rory. Yeah, yeah, big Rory fan. And he's actually his wife from Rochester.

Up here and really yeah and her family.

Thanks for Okilla, And I think he is a member here at o'kill across the streets. So I've enjoyed watching his game and I think it's it's been cool to watch him Back to PGA.

Tour, I love it. The coolest course you've played at.

It's I go back and forth.

I mean in America, Pebble Beach, just it's just so beautiful. It's not the hardest, but just the scenery is It's crazy. But went to Scotland last summer, did you? And eight of us went over there and the courses over there, I mean, all of them are great, but there's a couple that were just kings barns over there.

Was was was amazing.

There was there was a few that were just you know, blow your blow your socks off.

I loved if you could tell me I.

Can go anywhere to play golf for a week right now, Scotland.

I would go right back to Scotland really and do that again. It's it's did I see.

That the Ryder Cup is in Italy this year?

I don't know it made someone said that.

I'm like, that sounds cool. So uh, back to the Scout. Have you ever played on I assume you've been to the Masters because I see Josh Allen there all the time. I figure he's taking his GM who's paying hie hundred million dollars, He's going to take you as a guest, right.

I have not gotten to play it, but I have. I did meet someone this year, you know, through someone at the Kentucky Derby and they're planning to take me out there.

You know I was going to do it.

I actually doing a pot I did a podcast with him that's coming out later.

So whatever, don't any money, let me just come.

That was the deal.

Do the podcast and we would go out to uh Augustus. So that's supposedly coming up sometime in the next twelve months.

Dude, I can't wait. And my last one with the golf because I think when Nick, you know, I'm a casual, your real deal. What's the best round you've ever played? And where did you play it?

The best round was sixty nine. It was a country club in Buffalo back here. I shot it in the summer of twenty eighteen. It was my second summer.

Yeah. Yeah, at double bogie the first hole, Did you really.

Because I was going to say, like, when you have a round like that, do you even have room for a bogie or is it just par park the whole way?

Yeah, screwed up and bladed a sandwich on the first hole across the green and ended up making double and after that I had no blem issues. I had three birdies after that to get It's a par seventy, so I got got.

It back to one under.

Have you read a home on one?

Yes, two thousand and eight.

Look, if I asked you, like, who was the third round picker that you guys had last year, you might you might you might stumble No. Two thousand and eight. Where was it?

Yeah, it was a place called the Witch. It's down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. So I was playing with a few guys down there, and yeah, it was. It was on the back now I think it was Hold twelve was one hundred and sixty yards and the guys in the group's all going before I did.

I thought they were messing with me.

Yeah, I gotcha, I started it was.

It was wild.

The parallels of playing golf and being a GM are there any? Do you see any similarities? Or is this your total? You know, take your foot off the pedal. That's where you go to escape.

It is where I go to escape.

I mean you listen, like in anything that you that you want to be good at, to be mentally tough, and you're gonna have adversity.

You can have adversity on the course. You can have adversity in this job, and.

So just find the positive from it and learn from what you did wrong.

And so those are probably the parallels.

Love it, Brandon, No thirty five minutes, Just like that. Appreciate it, bro, fantastic.

Easy, always easy with you, buddy, anytime you know that great.

I've got to make my super Bowl pick in the next couple of weeks. It might be Bills, it might not be, but you don't hold it against me when it's not right. No, no, no, it's usually wrong anyway.

Actually, yeah, everybody picked us last year, so I just assumed nobody pick us, and let's just.

Be probably better off. Let's go play football. Bill's Jets Monday night, Week one. Brandon Bean, you'll be up in that in that booth watching with your binoculars. I'm sure I'll see you on the broadcast and hopefully i'll see you there. You're the man. Thanks for joining GM and the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean.

Thanks, Peter, I'll see you so, buddy.

Brandon Bean's the man. I love having him on and I'm rooting for him, I really am. I feel like a Bill super Bowl one of these years would be a great thing for the city, but also for that guy, as you could tell, good friend of mine and a great, great evaluator. Another good friend of mine is on the phone at the moment. Yes, the phone. He doesn't do zoom, he doesn't do riverside, he doesn't do any of these things. He does the phone. And then we have to use

Thanks for having me back again. Every time I'm on, it's always a tough follow. Now I'm following Brandon Bean.

Brandon Bean's an Executive of the Year, one of the greatest GMS in the last twenty years. And now here you are a childhood pala mine and you are the main event or the dessert, however you want to put it. But I want to bring you on specifically, not for your football thoughts. I know you've got football thoughts. I know you've got lots of thoughts on Saquan's contract, but more about what these next few days meant to you and me as kids. And let me explain to the listeners.

Okay, So.

Taking to the fact that you start up at summer camp right around the third week of June, so you're there for about six weeks in a row, and it's you and call it maybe about twenty other guys that are in your age group, and the whole summer all you're doing, you're hanging out, you're having a good time, you're playing sports, you're going swimming, you're doing everything that's just based around you. Just having fun for six straight

We are going to split you up into two teams.

There's two hundred on this side and two hundred on that side, and it goes by age, whatever group that you're in. And for the next three and a half to four days, you are going to be split up with the guys or girls your age, and you are just gonna do every athletic competition against one another in just wild competitive nature, scores being kept.

Everybody's split apart. It tears you.

It tears you apart so much that the old saying in slip boy camps was.

No color war in the bunks.

Remember that beater, no color, No color were allowed on the bunks. When you're out on the soccer field, the basketball court, that color war.

You're up.

If you're out in the dining hall and you sit at the table, says color are You're screaming back and forth, back and forth at each other. But when you get back to the bunk, everybody has to take a step back. No Color were allowing the bunks because otherwise you'd overflow.

And just it would be too competitive that there might be fights that are up in the bunk and you just spend three or four days doing everything competitive against the guy that maybe slept in the bunk bed above who it was your best friend for the past six weeks, and now you guys hate each other because.

You're on opposite sides of the aisle.

It's it's just the most amazing four day span of the summer for you.

And this right now, this sort of second week of August.

If you're someone who's in our age bracket and you went to Sleepway camp, did this. If you're logging on the Facebook, you're logging on Instagram, whatever it is you, you your friends.

Of yours that I have kids.

You're seeing all the live stories that are popping up, and everything is happening you.

You can't escape it. But then it's so amazing, and all of a sudden, guys you haven't spoken to twenty years are texting you and being like, oh my god, you remember this from Color. Remember It's just the most amazing flashback. I love it.

We were texting about it. It's like I got to come on the podcast and explain the school field. Don't even know it is. But I don't remember who won Color War any year, but I remember exploits from Color War, like I remember there was something called the relay and then you heroically threw a softball through a tire before our friend. And it's still it was probably thirty years ago, it's still one of your best athletic moments, if not your best life moments.

Right, It's something that set me up for the path of success.

How old were you when you threw a softball through attire?

I was fifteen?

And what would you say? How did that set you up for a path of success?

It just let you know you win there. You always have that story in your back pocket. You'll always do.

And you hope and you can't wait to be.

Able to do that.

And then when you actually do it and you win, you're able to tell that story to anybody who's been in the camper world and they get it and they respect it, and the ice is broken, and you can discuss anything you want, whether it's friends, if you're in the business.

World, anything you want. The walls come down and any the doors are open to you.

Todd, thank you. Let me ask you one more question because you had to take that no one else had. Sean Payton's comments on Nathaniel Hackett go I.

Mean me personally, I kind of love those comments. I mean, the Broncos.

Were more or less the worst team in the league last year, and you know, Nathaniel Hackett, whether whether it's his fault or not, he's the head coach that's all his fault.

They hired Sean Payton for a reason.

John Payton and.

Has a long line of credibility behind him.

You know, there's very few coaches left in the league that have Lombardi Trophy's sitting on their walls.

Right there. He has the right and the credibility to come in and turn things around and say what he has to say to gain his team moving forward. What does he care what he has to say about the Jets?

Rightfully? So there it is. Can wait to have you on during the season again. Go enjoy your summer and I'll text you about color all right, buddy, love it.

Thanks for having me.

There you go, guys, that's the season with Peter Schreger. We have the usual monologue. We had a guest in Brandon Bean, and we had my buddy Detro. We are in regular season form right now. I want to thank everybody back at the LA Studios. I want to thank the great Aaron Wan Kaufman. I want to thank Brandon Bean, my buddy Ditro, and of course Jason English and all the folks who put this thing together. Keep on coming back next week. We got some good ones. We're gonna