Justin Forsett talks Shark Tank bust that led to Hustle Clean boom!

I am a boy, Harper women right now and this is the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. What's up? I am a boy. Well, I thank you, Peanut. You know, for the show starter, you came at me quite aggressively and I had to just make sure you knew where I stand. Damon, thank you, sir, No worries. I'm good. And this morning we have a special guest with us. And look, this young man was a baller in the league, and not only that, but it was doing amazing things

off the field. In his second act. Personally, I actually got to witness him come in and talk to a group of young starting business starters starters businesses and in the early stage investing there in Frisco, Texas. He's from Texas, I do believe so. And he is running back, former running back, now business and entrepreneur. Justin four set he was running back in the NFL for nine years, played

with seven different teams. That's amazing to say. In twenty fourteen, ran for more than twelve hundred yards and made a pro ball that checks a lot about this. Also was among the NFL's top one hundred players in twenty fourteen. He's the co founder of Hustle Clean, a hygiene product company that was featured on Shark Tank. We're definitely gonna hear more about that. He was also on Good Morning America, The View, and Everywhere justin for set, Good morning, Welcome

to the NFL Player's Second Acts podcast. Man, what an intro. Man. I appreciate you Roman Panut for having me on the show. Excited to dig end of today, Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Man. So let's get right into it. Yeah, jump in Panut, Let's go Shark Tank. Yeah, gotta Hustle Clean. Right, So you went on Shark Tank. Tell me I watched a show. I've seen it I'm not a businessman. I don't have

the mindset to come up with my own invention, design whatever. Ye, So I admire everyone that goes on that show because you have to be in a different mindset to black. You know what, I think this is a great idea that some people just don't have it, don't think, and I want to get it, make a lot of money and obviously serve people with this great product. Right. So has going on Shark Tank helped you with hustle clean? Hold?

Hold on? And before you answer that, I want you to tell Peanut the mindset of an entrepreneur because that's also you got to be brave to go out there and say, you know, I'm gonna do it. This is myself.

I'm gonna start something and and really run it to completion and um, and kind of break down to how you got into that mode or space as well mentally go ahead, oh yeah, man, um, A lot of the attributes that you see being a professional athlete or plan in sports, that's what it takes to be a successful entrepreneur.

So that just relentless mindset, the faith that within yourself to like to do something that, um, most people are scared to always tell people that entrepreneur who are lying chasing We're chasing something that scare most people, and but once you catch it, um, it is it is worth it, right, it is worth the journey. It is it's worth the ups and downs and um it for me to start this business while I was playing, uh, and to pursue it, it was a smooth transition because I'm used to chasing

things that most people are scared of. Um and uh, you know, playing in sports, so that the mindset came natural to me. Um, That's why I fell into the entrepreneur space. I feel like God gave this to me and uh to get into Shark Take. Uh it did wonders for my business, right, not only externally in sales and awareness and distribution, but uh just internally how we operate because we didn't get a deal on the show. I joke with people all the time, that's probably the

worst pitching Shark Take history. Um, why you say why you gotta why you like the champ on Harlem Nights made it so bad? It was, I mean it was a number of things. One we started off, it was hot, I mean, it came out, we took up. It was like we went over, We did a deep pass like a hail Mary. We went in. We scored right back the first couple of seconds we started. We started off the game hot. We got into the Q and A part and it was three of us at the time.

We had three partners that we have two um but we uh we got into the Q, Q and A and couldn't tell the investors the Sharks like a coherent story and around the financials and why we needed funding. And when you know one the number one rule when going into the Shark tak and when racing capital is you have to know your numbers. It is like you know it is. You have to It's not negotiable, right, You gotta be able to explain your numbers and understand that.

And we were we were uh man, we were all over the place when it came to that, in that in that space. So that when after that moment, I'll never forget that ride. The ride back because when you when you on Shark take, you got to those props down in the background, you have to take that back to Hollywood or wherever you rented that place. So you get a U haul and you pack this stuff up on your own and you take it back to wherever the rental location you got the stuff from, and I

would saying it was me my two business partners. I was in the middle. And that was the longest ride of my life, right because I just knew it was like worse than any fumble I've had in my career. But I had to resolve in me and the declaration inside of me that like, Okay, this won't be the end of how people see me as an entrepreneur, right but like I was gonna, I was going to rebound from from this bit of adversity and grow from it. I learn from it and how we operate and new

business I was going. I was. I was just determined to make a better impression. So it didn't wonders for us, you know what, you know, Justin, I appreciate that, bro. I'm sorry you heard that piano. My son is sick, staying home from school. So I decided to be a piano guy all of a sudden, out of nowhere. Paul

Josuck that the background if you heard that. But I just want all the listeners to know, Hey, look, life is real, Okay, life is real too doing all this so so justin so so you're sitting there in front of the sharks and like, this is like the dream opportunity for you, for most entrepreneurs, the dream opportunity. And so as you get told no, first of all, did you go in there thinking like, all right, I want this guy invest like I always want to know that too.

Did you Who was your dream shark Lorie? Laurie Grenier? Okay? And why? Because we had heard that she was one of the investors or sharks that were really hands on and like even after the show, like she was gonna be really invested in her time and energy as well as capital. And she's like a really good fit. Six my customers are women, so um, it just made sense that Laurie using her resources and leveraging her her assets. It made sense for a great partner. And I heard

you live tweeted this the episode. Yeah did what? How did that come about? It was just like, okay, you know, you get hitten, you get hit in the mouth, how are you gonna respond? Right? Are you gonna just yea, you know, allowed to cause you to soak? Are you gonna allowed to push you to success? And I was I'm not a guy that when I'm back in the corner. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm on flinch, like I'm I'm

gonna fight. So I just I wanted to use this as an opportunity as a as a lesson not only for my team, but also everyone else that are chasing their dreams, Like this doesn't have to be the end of it. Um, just because you may have made a misstep. The only els we take our lessons in life, So donna grow from it. Now, for those that don't know, tell tell us what what hustle clean is. Oh yeah,

so we hadn't even got any of that. So Hustle Clean is a mission every sync right now, So I'm you know what I'm saying, We got you, We got you. Hustle Clean is a mission driven self care brand for the active lifestyle. So we do hygiene well unders and recovery recovery products for the everyday athlete and fitness and so our big goal is the intoxic hustle within the community, in the wonder's community. So tell me this because I thought it was hilarious because and a lot of people

don't do this. You've never been in the locker room that you're kind of your mindset came from the shower piel. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So even if our first product it's called a shower pill. So even if you look at the package here of Hustle Clean, it's shower pill on top. So it came from that moment when a shower's optimal

but not possible. Like you got guys in the locker room that was being dirty and having these deferred shower moments where you just finished up a long practice and you're gonna wait till you get home or wait hours later into shower instead of getting in right away. And they're saying they're taking a shower pill. It's like, nah,

you've been staked. So we wanted to come up for a solution because there were other people that were dealing with this type of moment because of whatever reasons like time, poor individuals. They were living dynamic schedules on the goal, a lot of errands, and so we wanted to coming from the solution, and uh yeah we did. I think the linemen or probably the stinkiest people on the team, they got a lot of crevices bro that you know,

I just lock our lineman. I ever have I ever smelled fuck like I have in Lineman, tell me this. So after you leave Shark Tank, when you're you're you're sitting back, you got that long card right back you and your your your partners, you're sitting there that experience. How did it help you evolve the business? Like where did you guys go from there? Like, you know what we got punched them out? What what do we have

to bounce back and do? One is just like more ownership for myself And like I just retired from the game at that point, I was probably a couple of months out of retirement, so fully immersed myself in the business as CEO and running it and I just realized, like me personally, I had to have more ownership on every department that you know, whether it's marketing, finance, legal,

Like I had to understand everything. I may not run the day to day on every single in every seating department, but I had to have ownership enough where I can communicate to anybody about the business. So I took accountability there and just really study learned the game, learned as much as I could. You know, I knew nothing about P and L statements and balance sheets and margin and eba duh and none of none of those things beforehand, but I just like I had to learn a new playbook.

So yeah, I was literally in my mind like like something you can't show on your feet. Man, I just got that. I got I need some I need some some high high hustle clean on my feet. I got eb yeah yeah yeah. So it's basically your bottom line at the end of like you look at your profit and law statements, it's like what do you take in? What money do you take in after earnings, benefits, interest, tax, um, emortization, like all those things, like you take that into accounts,

like a very bottom line. This is what you're bringing home, all right, evil though it is at the bottom cleaned up by your I see why you instead of yeah, man, i've checked my ebra thom yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, well you gotta check the bottom line. And yet hey man, look at my EBA the food that's yeah all right. So one of the I know you said, one of the most emotional um or something you're you're very proud of is the deal that you guys got when um

you signed with Target. All right, talk talk talk about that, talk about like getting signed and like your first you know, first make big gig and them signing. How how was that for you? How was that feeling? Yeah, I mean it was amazing, Uh, because I think about at that moment, there are a lot of people still doubt in the business and the idea. I mean, we had just got

rejected on Shark Tank a few months earlier. Uh, there's still people like, man, why would you why would you even come up with this product, this disposable wash cloth, like you know, uh just get in the shower, Like there's no need for your product, Like it's not worth investing in. There's no retailer's gonna pick you up. And then all of a sudden, on my I think it was twenty eighteen, I put in my journal, and I have a journal writing all my goals and aspirations that

I have for the year. And one of my goals was to get in a big box for each oil and that big box for each other. I wanted it to be Target because they're like at the top of the top when we talk about quality in the retail service. And I wasn't going to go to the super Bowl that year because that year was in Minneapolis, and I go to super Bowl every year comote the brand because yeah,

who want to be in Minneapolis in February. I was yeah, it was cold, But the NFLPA sent out an email saying that We're going to give a business tour Target, and I'm just like, Okay, this is my shot. So I got that like a week before the super Bowl, and I'm like, I had some friends that lived up there. I stayed on their couch for at the super Bowl and I went to the tour packed my product in

a backpack. After we took the tour, I pitched to the buyer of the personal category and literally a few months later, were a few weeks later, actually got in touch with her offline. She's like, I think it's a valuable product, valuable product for our category. Let me can take you to the right people. Three months later, I'm in store in a five hundred store test. Three months

out of that, after that, I'm full changed. So I'm in every single Target store across the country and the business turns around just like that, And we offer to the races and we got we got, we got word and it was a blessing. Damn. So did you take the experiences that you learned from failing on Shark Tank like that that lesson did you take all that, like

knowing the numbers and everything. So when you went for the pitching with that buyer, because I'm sure she he or sheet they they probably asked you some of the similar questions though right it was it's a little bit different, but you definitely have to have your numbers. You gotta know. Um, just like the value proposition of the business, like what are you offering? H kind of sales do you think you're gonna provide? What kind of incremental sales you think

you can provide to the category? Why should it? It's like it's like taking somebody spotting the roster in order to go into the store. Somebody has to someone has to go, like you if you got to have a product on the product on the shelf, somebody is losing a job, somebody is losing space on the shelf. So you have to pitching and position yourself in a way that's like, oh, this is unique. This is going to bring value to the category or the take to the team.

And they saw it, they saw the vision, and we're able to sell that. So um, it was an emotional time, Like I was probably more emotional on that day than I was on my draft day. Um, I was gonna say, is that comparable to like, man, when you get it, like you finally get that email saying like this is it. First of all, congratulations because yeah, it's huge to hear that story to be kicked out and you all of a sudden, it's just the way God works and you connect, like, man,

this is in my this is in my journal. I've been talking about this. The NFL talks about you know, they send out this email, You're gonna have a chance to meet with somebody maybe possible to target. You're like, dude, I'm sleeping on couches, Like that's the mindset of an entrepreneur too. It's like you're willing to do whatever it takes until the goal is met. And so and you know, and all of a sudden, you nail down your elevator pitch because you got to have that ready to go

at all times. And you get in. And I never heard anybody mention or talk about that. I don't think most of our listeners actually think about when you get on the shelf, somebody else is going off, and so how do you stay up there? And because everybody always talks about getting to the top, and we're always so focused about the person or the company in front of us. We never worry about the one behind us. And that's the one, the most dangerous one, because they're the one

that's gonna catch you and pass you up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's about continue to add value. It's about building relationship with the buyer and even though you know some of them may change it every once in a while and maybe a coaching change, but it's just continue to show your value and show up at every every single eating, every single calendar, because it's like a it is not a it's not like a full ride like it's it's like year to year. Like you you're not promised a

four year uh situation with with the retailer. You have to prove yourself, you know, on a quarterly basis, on a yearly basis. And we've been able to do that by our the positioning, the offering that we have, the packaging that we have, the mission that we have, and just build a good report with with the store. So

we've been in there five years now, Blasts. We just introduced a new ups and Ups and Salt minal mineral leaf soap that just went in the stores and Target stores all across the country, and they've been a valued partner since that day. It's kind of It's kind of funny though, that you say, you take somebody off the shelf, right, So we all can attest to this, right, we all got drafted. There were fifty three men on the roster

before we got there. They draft seven to ten players a year, you know, rookies that they draft, plus you bring in a couple of undrafted free agents, and then you're a third string, second string. Ultimately, you want to be a first string. You know what I'm saying. You want to be a number one. You want to start. So we're taking somebody off that shelf, right, I think that's comparable. So when you yeah, I'm I tell people

I'm greedy. Greed is good. I mean I saw the movie Wall Street and Gordon Gecko or Greco he used to say it, man, greed is good. Rome. Let's let's let's create something. We literally just admitted that neither one of us have. Right now, you can do it. You cannot tell me you not you're you're not inspired. No, I'm inspired. I'm inspired inspired. That's why I would love to maybe invest all right here, here we go. I got another question with Justin so in a documentary Life

After You were on that. I thought it was a great episode. You said you tried to leverage the NFL shield as much as possible when starting out with shower Field. Yeah. Yeah, you use teammates, the facility, the locker room, team, photographers, all those things to spread the word about it. Do you think, in your personal opinion, guys in the NFL leverage the NFL brand enough for their own personal game. Uh.

I don't think as much as they can. I think some do, But I mean the NFL gets a lot out of us, right, They get a ton out of us, And I think that more players, um, they have the opportunity to to use that shield to propel them into the next season or chapter in life. But for whatever reason, maybe they are uncomfortable with with doing so. Are you know the whole adage of thinking or the mindset of thinking that if you're not one hundred percent focus on football,

you're being distracted. Yea. So they don't. They don't want to, They don't want to come off that way. But for me,

I wanted to build something. I was fired two times in my first season in the NFL, and my third year when I came up with the business idea with my teammates, we uh, that Sports Illustrated article came out about going broke, and you know that whole number about eighty percent of players bankrupt after divorced or depressed two years after playing, which may or may not be true, but that was kind of a joke to my system, Like I wanted to not be in that number, and

I wasn't gonna allow anything to stand in my way. Like for me, I'm an undersized running back. I'm five eight hundred ninety five pounds, you know, and I was able to go up against giants every Sunday and live out my dream playing on the NFL in the NFL in the same thing entrepreneurship, Like I'm gonna I wasn't gonna allow anything to stand in my way. I don't care.

I may not have the experience, i may not have the team, but I'm gonna make sure that at the end of the day, win the right position, the best position possible to be successful. And I was going to leverage whatever I had. So that was my mindset. Yeah, and so you started this business while you were playing. Yeah, all right, And so what would your message be to current players about how important it is to possibly start working towards their post career lives or whatever their goals

or aspirations maybe wild playing. I would say, if your current player, the transition starts now. I don't care if your first year or year in your twelfth year in the NFL. The transition starts now. So start investing in your future, start fingering out things like what you're interested in, your passions, and a lot of people think I don't have enough time now on the entrepreneurs side, like I'll do this every single day, Like I wish I had the time that I had in the NFL. Like I'm

more busy now than I ever was playing football. And you and the NFL guys, your schedule, you got an off day built in, You have rest periods throughout the day that's built in. I don't have any of that, Like I have to be intentional about getting time time off myself. So just use that to your advantage. Start thinking about your future because it's gonna make their transition a lot more smooth. So what kind of what kind

of boss are you? I'm I can be very demanding, but my approach is because I expect the level of excellency, right because of my background. But I'm like, if you want to football terms, I'm a Tony Dungee guy. Like I'm I care more about the men and women themselves than their actual product productivity. Now, you got to produce in order to be on the team, right, that's a that's a non negotiable. But I'm trying to figure out ways in which I can help you reach your goals.

How can I provide value? Because I believe I'm not here just to consume or just to be transactional or to make a lot of money. I want to help you get to wherever you're trying to go. It may not be here for the rest of your your career, but I want to have that positive impact where you can say, man, I enjoyed my time at Hustle Clean. I enjoy working for Justin. He changed my life. And about how many employees do you you currently have right now?

It's smart? Were eight eight man team, eight man team. Okay, So what kind of growing pains you have, you know, going through and learning the business world as an entrepreneur. I you know, I've been around you, Justin In this setting, and I think you handled yourself professionally. I mean, you come across as a guy that's all, no nonsense. You know your business, you know your worth, and the fact that you have this football background. Man, you come in

with like you got shoulder pads on. You own your own space. So, like, could you maybe talk to me just about the part of learning this side of it. You talked about it a little bit earlier that you said, like, you know, after we failed this one, I had to be more involved. Talk about the other things that you've learned.

Now that you've got more involved. Yeah, I think like in order to lead well, you must read like great leaders read, and I had to become a student of the game or just like learning books, like if you see behind me. I got all of my books back here from some amazing authors, amazing entrepreneurs that have been

there and done that. Right, I'm trying to surround myself around people that have done some of the things I want to accomplish, great mentors and advisors within the business that's been you know, very important for my growth, and just really understanding the consumer package good industry, which is the industry I'm in. Because again when I got in a hut. No different in football. When I got in a huddle with Paid Manning, he would give me three things.

In every single huddle, he would give me warning, he would give me encouragement, and he would give me instruction. And every single huddle he would give me a form of all those things. So I have to have that in my entrepreneur journey. I need people to give me warning. I need people to encourage me along the way. I need people to give me instruction and guidance so I

can avoid some hurdles and obstacles that are avoidable. And I had to have that Rob and I start putting pieces in place so I have that good support system and that good huddle. In my entrepreneur journey, sole reading, uh learning as much as I can listen to the podcast. Uh yeah. That that has kind of been like part of the growing process for me because I knew nothing. It was. It was like literally from zero um to to get this business growing. Yeah, I'm I'm big into reading.

I'm trying to get Rona read a little bit more. I'm a I'm a guy of quotes and yes it's amazing. Let me tell you that is a hidden talent for pe nut Tillman that you really knows. No, he has quotes like he has like a thousand quotes. I mean I have just I have quotes, and I have quotes on my phone. I'm all about just staying you either green and grown or ripe and rotten. And I want to be green. I want to continue to grow and

learn and challenge myself, push myself. All right, tell us about the two initials you have with hustle clean uh, shower to the people in free play. Yeah. UM. A lot of companies, especially in this day and age, a lot of companies have a mission. But we like to say we're a mission that just happens to be a company. Like we felt like we have this u to really truly impact impact lives and change lives for the better

around us and in our communities and uh. And because of that, we not only invest in the quality of our goods, we invest in the quality of the people around us. And we have that we do that by shower to the people are disposable wash spoth Anti back to your child attes that the shower peel product, those products we send out to communities that lack access the clean water so they use that when a time of

disaster or time for relief. We sent product to Flint, Michigan and their water crisis when their kids and mothers and elderly couldn't get into the water and use the water. We've been to Uganda with John Hopkins House, but that we've been to put Puerto Rico after her came Aria. We just sent about two hundred thouars worth the product to Ukraine for the refugees in Poland. So we do a lot of good there just with the product, and we're blessed to be able to have that type of

impact with the physical good. And then a free play is our charity that we have. Me and my partner started alongside this business to provide scholarships to use sports athletes that have been priced out. As I have five kids right now, most of them are in sports, and I have, you know, uh seen a lot of like single parent homesh just like struggling to provide registration, travel

equipment as those things are skyrocketing. And I don't think and we don't think that kids should be priced out of sports if they want to play, because there's so many benefits that you get from it. So we were sure that we put the bill. We provide money, um and uh and mentorship to to use sports athletes in that way. Hey, shout out to your your wife. You got five kids here and running the business. Yeah, and pup were crazy. We stopped that four We stopped. We Yeah,

the physically stuck up on me. If surprise, that's what that baby name me in surprise? Mommy, why am I such a surprise? Ask your dad? Yeah, right now, we're gonna take a We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with Justin for set. What was your welcome to the NFL moment? Oh? Like, which guy rock

your world? Um man? I would say doing back back then, we were doing a lot of running backs linebackers doing those one on one pass pro drills with the garbage cans and you're just running full speed ten yards apart and just running into each other. And I was really good at the drill like I was. That was probably the best. Like if there was an elite part of my game pass protection? Was it? Right? Just but people

would try to run me over because I was smaller. Yeah, yeah, I was smaller, but I had leverage and I was strong, right, Uh So Leroy Hills, a linebacker, went to Clempson. He was a veteran and he had the big old helmet and horse collar. Uh we're years this, this is two

thousand and eight, two thousand and eight. When I'm gonna see how Seahawks and uh man, when I when I passed protected him and those garbagekins, I was just like, wow, there was a there was a tingle from my light from the top of my head all the way down to my my spine right when I, uh, when I would have to block him. And because he was just a load. He was about two thirty uh two forty and h he was one of the old school linebackers that was just gonna like just go downhill every single snap.

So that was that was that was a moment for him. I'm gonna come off buckle, none of that. No, no, But it instantly put me in prayer, like you just like I went in and we collided and I was like, okay, God, I feel your presence here. I feel that shoven to old I felt numb me in my spirit. Do you know how hard somebody got to hit you. As soon as it hits you, you you start praying. Yeah, man, in facts. So justin have you ever said a custo word? Maybe when I was younger, when I was a kid, I'm

sure of it. Okay. Marshawn Lynch says he's never heard you said a custo word, and so not an adulthood but yeah, okay, okay. So so that means you must have found your faith. At what point did you find your faith? Like? How did that give me a little rundown? A quick synopsis of that, because I loved hearing that, because everybody that's they know that time when they found Yeah, for sure, I was twelve years old. I'm a PK.

I'm a preacher's kid. I always hurt about Uh, this guy Jesus that wanted to come in and change your life had to plan a purpose for you. And I was at a point where even as a as a kid, I was a middle child, never really felt like I

got the bass star was wanted at times. If I'm honest, and I was just like, man, I want to see what this is like, right, If the creator of the universe has a plan and purpose and wants to use me, I want to see I want to test it in My life has been changed since that's what's so awesome at twelve, that's what's beautiful. Okay, I got the next one. You're all right? Yep, Who's And this is the question we asked all the time. I can't wait to hear

from yours. Who's on your personal mount brushmore to have that affected your life in a positive way, your mentor like leader, you got any more any you could be wrong, you can take it, could be dead. Four. You only get four parents excluded. Are only get four? You only get four? You know what you do. Yeah, we don't give rules, but we just let you know you only get four. I'm gonna do mine without parents because I

feel like that's a giving. Um. I'm gonna due. I'm going to do Wow, my high school coach, Mike Barber. I'm going to say she's I'm going to say my wife, good pick um, cool points. I'm going to say, uh, she changed my life. I'm gonna say Gary Kubiak offensive coordinator, Yeah, was her coach? Was your head coach too? Yeah? He was my head coach in Houston and then office coordinator in Baltimore. He's the reason why I got to Baltimore

and had that that year because years in Baltimore. Um, and then I'm going to say, I'm gonna say Francis chan oh yeah, oh yeah, yep, I'm gonna say those short guy yeah, San Francisco. Yeah yeah, I remember we uh Roome pl. Yeah, he was at Pola. Yeah, very very powerful speaker. That's actually where I'm at Rome. We met, we at pl That's actually where we met. That's actually I was in your group my first year in the league. I was in your group. Yeah, early on. I remember

being and I break our group together. Yeah. PO Man. That was for those that don't know. PO was a a Christian fellowship organization that would bring in multiple football players current uh former retired and it was just this amazing prayer, celebration singing. It was like church for two days. Justin right now. I want you to fill in the blank. Right now, my life is oh, my life is purposeful. We haven't had that answer. I like that one how so explained. I'm just like in a season of life,

but I'm truly fulfilled. I feel like a lot of there are a lot of people that are successful but not a success. I'm feeling like I'm a success right now in this season of life of just like not everything is going right, not everything is you know, perfect, but I'm just operating in this journey like embracing every single moment, and I feel like I'm doing what God has called me to do. Man. I gotta use that, bro,

like because I think that's where I'm at. Like, I don't think I'm like killing it, but I am successful, you know. And it's just sometimes you need to appreciate that part of the journey right like where you're literally at right now, and just continue to just put those good days in front of you and just keep stacking them and eventually you're gonna look at the back you don't get out the end of the tunnel and just be like, oh I did do that, Yeah, I did

do that. Just to man. I appreciate it. Man, I appreciate that you poured into us today and to our listeners about your journey, what it's like to be a modern day young black entrepreneur in this space. And I mean hustle clean, bro. I mean you literally took the idea that we all joked about in every shower pill and turned it into a business. I think it's outstanding. That's dope. It sounds amazing. Yeah, to think about all the little things and sayings that we all have in

our everyday walks of life. How do we turn that into a monetary business or into somewhere where we can actually help and like you're doing right now giving back with you or two um with what is it? Shower to the people and free play. So uh, not only taking your success but also helping others and live their lives as well. So I appreciate you, justin for lest I appreciate you man, thank you for hopping on. I feel like you should. You make me feel good about

myself normal I talked to Rome. I just feel like down wall that you make me feel good about myself. So I'm am I need to start messing with you. Moh man. It's how I feel. The positive vibe hit me up now. It well, the only thing, the biggest thing with me and Peanut justin. I'll be honest with you. Use that. You know Peanuts like sometimes he wants to jump off the cliff and I'm like, Bro, I'll jump with you. You You know what I mean, I'm about in the same place I don't even know, like so I

like to buy it. That's where we're at. Bro, well here here we go man. Thank you again, Thank you coming bro. Thank you to the listeners for tuning in. I want to ask you to spread the word and to give us a rating all positives please, I'm begging for it, a review, and the following Apple podcast to our Heart radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Thank you for tuning in again to the NFL players Second Acts podcast. Just some young entrepreneurs trying to come

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