Jake Plummer: Mushroom Farmer

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your podcast will continue to follow us. We continue to put more and more episodes out there, and today I promise you will not let you down with our guests. Today, I bring that energy because I had some lines, man, some more some mushrooms. Man, it just got you got me the mood. I just I was feeling chars and ready to go. So today, you know, y'all we got a special guests. Um, this gentleman played ten years in the NFL, made a pro bowling on five, got drafted

by the Cardinals, played in Denver for a while. Now if you're playing after in the NFL, now he is a mushroom farmer. So y'all show some love for Jake the snake blah. And like Rome said, I'm feeling the air man. I went by your website and everyone got long hair. I feel like to grow mushrooms, man, Like everyone's got the long hair. I'm feeling it. You know. The long hair for me right now is just uh, it got to a point where it stopped being annoying and now it's long hair, and it's just I got

long hair now. So it might be gone this summer when it gets hot, but for now, that's what it is. And uh, you know, I don't think it has anything to do with the mushrooms, but you know, Chautauki mushrooms do help with you know, your hair and nails. Helped promote like hair and nail growth. So you know, one little fun fact about fun guy. You might not know. So, what made you get into the whole mush like? So I know you retired, what made you get into the

whole mushroom thing? I know, I know Calvin Johnson has the marijuana and everything. What what made you get into mushrooms? Yeah? You know, it's been a long, long journey to get to hear And there was no uh you know, setting out to be a mushroom farmer or even I didn't didn't really know that I would be getting into doing this until just before the pandemic. I had a had a lunch meeting with my my business partner, Dale Jolly,

who's a partner of mine, to help start Umbo. And actually that's when I he introduced me to Rashad Evans, former UFC Hall of Famer who was also a co founder of Umbo and has used you know, in his last fight when he came out of retirement. He used the products when he was training and uh, you know, being an older guy training with these young kids, he

had the energy. He was actually bringing it like you did, peanut, Like he was bringing the energy to the to the workouts and and the guys were like, what are you doing, you know, and he was recovering and then he went and fought and he won, and he was so calm and peaceful in the ring, and it was it was something that when I when I met him, you know, we started this idea. We we started taking some teasterres that my buddy Dale gave us, and we've we felt

the benefits. We felt our immune system. We felt like this virus going around, we were we were okay because we were being we were taking the right stuff. My energy levels were good, my sleep got better, I didn't have my allergies in the in the springtime, and so I was a believer. And you know, the dive into this started my buddy Dale. Actually is when I met

him was in Charlotte's Web. When I was working with Charlotte's Web and the himp oil and as you guys probably remember, no like eight years ago, I was trying along with some other guys to try to get this into the hands of the players through the nfl p A and whatnot. And it was it was federally federally listed as a Schedule one drug, the same as heroin. Cocaine, and that's HIMP. We're talking about just one plant that

got confused with marijuana. And now we see himp. A lot of guys are having their own brands and and endorsing it and getting behind it because they felt the benefits of this plant of nature. And so that got me into this, uh, this this like path of bringing a different mode of healing or something that may help just take the edge off of your pain or even take a little bit off of you know, the fogginess

in your brain or whatever it was. And we as athletes are so aware of our bodies that just that's my small minute change and something can set us free. And so that was a really big big thing to do to start that. And then and the understand the power and of nature and the medicine that that she provides, Mother Mother Earth, and so then getting into this mushroom business we're talking about. You know, mushrooms have their own kingdom. I call it a queendom because I think you know,

they're they're they just are like the mother. They they're underneath the ground and my celial network, the way they help share everything underneath the ground with plants, the way everything filters through them, and the future holds a lot of a lot of things are gonna start changing once people, uh learn a little more about mushrooms, like, oh, psilocybin, I don't want to trip out. I don't want to go on a journey and have like hallucinations. Well that's

just one. That's one mushroom in the whole entire kingdom queendom. You know, it's it's just one. And just like the difference between marijuana and himp, we had to let people know, like you can take hip, take himp, and you can go to work. You won't be high, you won't have that psychotropic feeling. And so again it's a chance to educate, but also a chance to just kind of live it. I take the mushrooms every day. I got the farm. That's just like another opportunity came through my buddy Dale

to go start growing them. And you know, as a former player going through transition, you know, it's never over the transition because we're always linking back to like like this next week, going to the Super Bowl, going down to be amongst the players, you go right back to who you were when you were that whether it's your alter ego or whatever. It is, you go back to that guy. So we're never out of that, we're always transitioning back into our normal lives once we step back

into the fold. And you know, this is giving me a chance to really grow and feel what it's like to grow things and put intention into these beautiful organisms to help people, you know, hopefully optimize their health and wellness. And uh, it's been a fun journey and I can't wait to continue to spread this word and thank you for being interested, because that's really the first thing is like, huh, I'd like to think clear, I'd like to sleep better,

I'd like to have a little less inflammation. And it seems like this, this, this whole queendom is undiscovered, undiscovered and has a plethora of healing healing in it that we're just discovering. So it's a really exciting time. I'm excited because I just bought four or four of your apologize for the back right, I'm getting some work done on my house, but I bought four of you got like a four you got a four piece. I bought the four piece, and I'm I'm looking forward to sleeping,

feeling working, just getting getting swollen. I'm I'm I'm looking forward to. My goal right now is three fifteen on the bench. So hopefully these mushrooms can get me up and going at it. You know what I'm saying, Well, well, yeah, you know, I mean, who knows, maybe they will if you if you put that intention into them, they're pretty uh pretty amazing, Maybe they'll help you get there. So, so Jake, I want to talk about this transition a

little bit for you. Um, you were thirty two years old and you retired, and kind of take me back through because we all have our different journeys and stories of when we put the ball down and we take our pads off, Um, what do we do next or how do we continue to strive and be great in the in the lane that you're in for so long and now you step away you're thirty two years old, because you maybe take me into that first year of

after you retired. What were you doing? I know you and I've listened to some of your podcast places or interviews that you've done. You did a lot of handballing around the country. You you're you're still trying to stay active, and you also like to read about read a lot in the morning. I think you'd like to read about just new things. What you described as you said you'd

like to read about the transition was was interesting. As you know, I played the four straight years at a s U, got drafted to the Cardinals and started halfway through my rookie year, So there was really basically fourteen straight years of high level football, and you know, my body was really taking a beating. I was up to about two d and twelve pounds. You know, you gotta get bigger, you gotta get bigger. And it was constant grind to just be that person. And I loved I

loved it. I love being the quarterback of the team and relating to all my teammates and the players and the whole organization. Um. But there was a lot of there was a lot of there's a lot of stress there. There's a lot of expectations that were hard to basically unable to fulfill all the expectations that were heaped upon me. So that took a toll mentally and spiritually, you know, like just being able to like feel good about myself

and who I am. As a lot of guys lead the league, they feel like they leave in failure, even though they played nine years with their cut their last camp, and they're like they leave with a bad taste in their mouth and they don't remember like those nine years where you were in it and doing a core point, such a point, you know, one of the few people in the world that do what we do. And at one point in my life, I was one of the you know, probably top fifteen quarterbacks in the entire world,

in the entire world. And so when you when you can go and look back at that in your transition, as as as hard as hell to go through a transition when we have everything do undone for us. We know where we're gonna be in April, we know what we're gonna be doing November. We got our schedule, and you get back into life if you don't plan for that, which I know there's some things out there to help guys plan, but a lot of guys you gotta be

in it in the NFL. You can't think about, oh, in four years, I might retire and get into being a gardener, a mushroom farmer. You know, like you don't put any extra time thinking down the line because you're so you have to be so in it during that time at present. So when I retired. It was a chance for me to just get away. I moved up to North Idaho. I got out of the crowd. I got away so I could just be another human for

a little bit. See what it felt like to go to a grocery store and not get noticed, not have people stopping me everywhere I went. And that was nice. It was really good. And then, um, you know, I got married. Soon after I retired. Traveled a lot, which was a lot of fun, and I did play a lot of handball. Handball was camaraderie, a good chance to get out and compete and run around. I'm still playing handball.

I gotta I gotta match tonight. And uh, you know, that's one of the things that that keeps me moving. You know. You guys, you guys know our bodies are beat up, and we can buy into that narrative and oh, we're beat up old football players with arthritis and the futures doesn't look great with some of the other things we we have to I don't like talking about much, but with the trauma to our heads and concussions and

all that stuff. But you can change that narrative and just be active and be active in the moment now and not worry about what maybe down the line. Um. And that's another thing that's so beautiful about the mushrooms is I think it's it's for longevity. For me, it's for it's for cleaning myself up now, but also planning to live a long time and live healthy and and be active. And uh, yeah, it's been a great transition.

It's I mean, here I am sixteen years out, uh, still still in it, you know, with the NFL being something that is always gonna be part of me, but really being able to bring something to the table here now that's gonna, I believe, help a lot of a lot of people optimize their their time in the league and then post post career um. Because really, I don't know how many guys on these Super Bowl teams are

are eating mushrooms in their diet. I believe that these organisms have an ability to balance out our bodies their adaptations. They're very strong adaptations. And uh, you know, my transition now into being into this space is really a gift. I get to share something with people that can help them feel better, and I'm I love it. It's a It's a great path to be on. Okay, Jake your mushroom company, my co love, right, and I think it's beautiful. And they want to try and ask why do you

sell these things? Are just that another? Instead, I want to piggyback and try and help sell it yourself. And I want you to tell me which one you think I should look at. So for me, I look at the Turkey Tale Teincshert all right, and the Turkey Tale Tincsherts described it is described as this. It's really the attribute of it that I love is number one that they say it grows on evergreen trees and therefore must

have the standing power of the trees it has. It has over four hundred clinical studies published in in Japan and China in the past thirty years showing the benefits to the immune system. And I know this from looking at YouTube on all my other crazy things I do, all right, that Japan has the longest living lifespan of any country in the world. It's not a big deal for Japanese people to live in their upper eighties to a hundred plus years old. That's like normal to them,

which is not normal here in the USA. Jake the Snake, please baby, continue to sell me more on which one I should use, either the Rishi or the Turkey Tell. I'm thinking Turkey tell MYSELFE all three all that's what I did. Take them all. It's all gonna help you come. Let's go now. You you make some great points. A great great to bring up Turkey Tell and Rashi. Um, two amazing mushrooms that we grow out at Michael Love

at the farm. Um. You know, the great things being able to grow these and extract them, and then and then here soon to be able to put them in the Umbo bottles, which is Umbo is the company that uh, you know, we started this whole thing with, and we're doing teink shirts and some really good bars. We're gonna be down in the down handing them out to anybody, all the legends and everybody, uh to get him a taste of a bar with two and a half grams

of functional mushrooms in them. And again answering the question, can I eat this and go to work with this? Trip me outright? Of course you can. I'm not. I'm not pedaling bars with psilocybin in them at the super Bowl like you think I want to go to prison. No, I'm still Schedule one it's still listed same as cocaine and heroin. The psilocybin mushroom. Now, Turkey tale is a

great mushroom. It's prescribed in Japan for cancer patients. And another thing that Turkey tale does that's amazing is that it's been known to go in and protect your cell surrounding the cancer sales. So when you get a dose i radiation or chemo, the chemo goes and and attacks

of cancerous sales and everything around it. Right, well, if you have the turkey tail on your system, what they're seeing signs of is that the turkey tail protects those other cells that are not cancerous, so you're not killing out, you know, all these good sales in your body, and so they're having really good results with cancer patients coming out of chemo. Um you know, enough to perk your ears up and go wait a second, let's let's let's see why why this is happening in another country. We

all want to live optimally. We all want to live less pain, with less pain, with more vitality and longevity in our minds, and we all want to do this, but we also a lot of people want proof that that's what it does. You know, we wouldn't. I don't

want to wait a hundred years to do this. I want to get this these this research done now and start getting people to understand there is something out there that Mother Earth provides us that could very well help us, UM just defend ourselves against everything we are faced with in this daily world of stress viruses, you know, everything out there, all the chemicals and toxins. UM. You know you mentioned Rahi. Rahi is my favorite mushroom. It's definitely

one that that you called the mushroom of immortality. UM. And when you bring up the p Fitt three pathway, that's deep knowledge right there that people don't even know about their bodies, sort of like when we discovered the indocnnabinoid system in our bodies in to realize that we have receptors for CBD, the cannabinoids that are in HIMP and so these are things that we're just starting to find out, even researching the brain and finding out more

about neuroplasticity and the fact that we can regrow our neuronal pathways in our brand and in our brain and make those connections that have been maybe severed through an accident, a car accident or through serving as a veteran or

from playing football. And that's another mushroom lining main that gets me real excited because there's so many compounds in these mushrooms we don't know, but a few of them just like cannabis that we started out calling at cb D, well now they're CBQ, cbr, CB all this stuff because we've gone in and explored this plant. That's what needs to happen with these mushrooms, and that's the exciting part.

Lion's Main helps with nerve growth factor, so you know, neuronal pathways that are damaged or severed, Lion's Man is showing support and helping regrow neural neuronal pathways throughout our whole body. And I know that when I go to bed at night, I'm excited to close my eyes and I go right to sleep because it enhances my dream state. When I'm dreaming, I dream like in full color, uh, you know, with people that I see the day before they come back into my dream and we're doing stuff together,

or I had a crazy dream. You guys know. Jamir Miller played in the league for a long time. One of my one of my homies from back of the cardinal days. I had a dream and he was in it. And then I will up from my dream and I went and used the restroom and then I came back and went to sleep, and I right when I got into my dream, Jamir was there, going, hey, you're back, let's go. And I've never had that happen right, like that was cool. So I called them that that day.

I called them like, yo, man, I had a crazy dream. If you did it? And so then we reconnected and now you know, I'm back in connection with one of my favorite teammates. So another one that we don't talk about much and that that's been known for a long time. It's court aceps, and court aceps is uh vasodilator. It

helps bring oxygen to your blood. When you guys, go work out, Peanut, when you're trying to bench three fifteen and you're you start to go, your body naturally sends out an a TP boost and didn't seem triphosphate moves to your muscles to say, hey, let's go, let's go. Time. Court aceps actually naturally will enhance that process so that you it happens now, it happens effortlessly and there's no crash.

There's no down, there's no sugars, there's no anything that to give you that natural inner you that court accepts provides. It's pretty amazing. Mushroom Oh my god. Yeah. And for all those listeners out there that don't know a t p s all you need to know about those, Jake dropped a truth bomb on this. A t p s are all about energy and storage function. That's all it's about. Keep it moving, Jake, Go ahead, baby, you got it. Yeah, great,

thank you for the extra little bit there. We're but we're finding out more and more as we get dive deeper into these mushrooms. And it's an entire food group that we eliminated from our diets basically as a culture, and we're just getting reintroduced to it. This isn't any new knowledge. I'm not like going and discovering new stuff that the whole world is gonna be um soon to be.

You know, they're they're they're turning to it already. As as Western culture and our Western medicine keeps doing the same thing. Um, you know, people are looking for other alternatives. And I gotta say that just taking the tinctures isn't the reason why I feel good and have energy throughout the day and feel like I've load down my aging process.

I've added a lot of other things to that along with the you know, good diet, uh you know, watching what I what I drink, watching how I speak, watching the people that I'm around, and just changing my whole entire you know, the way I flow, and I do

a lot of yoga. I try to stay active and move and so you know, sometimes you get out of the game and you feel start feeling the pain that can set in, and it's debilitating and it keeps you, uh sedentary, you don't want to move, and you don't feel like going out to see your buddies, and you're just and this, these these things seem to have been able to allow me that freedom, the information and my my joints is gone. I just I feel like I

have to share this. I gotta let everybody know because I know we're all going through whatever we're going through, we all have life happening, and to have life happening along with old injuries or the thought of what could be down the road from man, I've had, you know, I know, personally, I've had probably at least four to five concussions where I was knocked out other times, bang

my head numerous times. But there are guys that have had hundreds of concussions or mild traumatic brain injuries, and the narrative is set and it's it's a scary. It's a scary thing in that future that we look forward to, like CTE dementia Alzheimer's, Like my goal is to try to reverse that narrative, to to UH, to start doing some studies with some former players to raise quality of life using functional mushrooms. And also I am a believer

in psychedelic psilocybin mushrooms as a form of healing. Also at a whole another level of for for in ceremony as a sacred medicine for approaching some things that may be looming from your childhood or something that you may have gone through as a trauma that you didn't even realize how a traumatic imprint on your on your your system and you just shoved it away. What do we

do and what do you do being it? When you got hurt on a tackle, could you go take a break and like no, you push that pain a right, you depressed it. We get real good as like NFL players just I feel Saturday too bad. Push it down. I gotta practice, I gotta be the leader. I gotta exactly. And so you know, I believe that you know, we can.

We can help shift the narrative of what former players or anybody who who has had a lot of traumatic brain injuries or mild traumatic brain injuries to not look forward or not look at the future as though gloom of what could be. But let's start doing this. We can study. Let's start studying and trying to reverse the effects that we that we caused on our bodies playing this wonderful game. Let's let's really be progressive on this and look long term at the health and wellness of

of these players. And then once we do that, people start to listen to the general public looks up to us. So we have to be real careful, you know what we get behind And I'm one behind this too again as a gift, as a gift being connected with some great people, as a gift to share this too people. And uh yeah, it's really exciting. And h and Peanut, this is my last little one because my wife, you know I said it before. My wife has always she's been micro Docan and Jake, you don't know this, but

my wife's Native Americans. So she's all about going the psychedelic route to really get rid of and fight those demons or things that we've all suppressed at some point in time. She's a really big She takes Lins Maine every morning. I didn't even know that until this morning when I was so excited about having you are, I'm like, what do you take Lines Maine? She's like, yes, for the repair and all these other things like you know, and for all those young women, those women out there

that are listening. You know. She accused of me all the time of not respecting her mom brain right where she's had a couple of kids. Sometimes she doesn't always remember certain things. And then her opinion is this helps her fight that or going against those things, and can you continue to help her heal those things that she's been through? So right on again, Jake Plumber, Right on again. Baby.

Her question that she had, she makes she's making me at is that how do you know what's a reputable source, a reputable source of where we get our mushrooms forum versus what may not be a more reputable source to make sure it's all good. I don't know every mushroom

is created equal. That's a great question. Um, so much is still out there with micro remediation, micro filtration, we don't know yet, you know, building things out of the mycelium, which is showing to be when you can mold it into forms or any type of supports, be as strong as any other material out there. Um. So the sky is the limit here on this. We started a mode because we saw what was happening and we thought, let's start a brand, and let's do this right, and let's

have social corporate responsibility. Let's make sure that we're not This isn't a capitalist, capitalist play for us. This is a cause. This is really a chance to shift the shift the needle towards more health and wellness. And so it's it's getting that shift. It's changing people's perspective to be less fear and more open minded. And Umbo. We set out to have one of the best products like I was. I was Charlotte's Web. It's one of the top line products. I wanted to be able to have

the same thing in the mushroom industry. Um, there are other good products out there. Be sure to look at the labels to see if it's organic and also if it's fruiting body or if it's my cilium biology when you're in college, No, man, like this is the thing. Like I've just been in this for the last few years, just just absorbing knowledge and being around people and learning stuff. But I don't know like one tenth of what Paul Stamitz knows. I'd say one fiftieth of what Paul Stamitz knows.

He is a mycologist. I'm a micro file. I love mushrooms. I love fun guy, I love nature, and so I think you know, you know, without my cilium, without fun guy, that we wouldn't have anything that we're used to having out in nature, the trees, the beautiful flowers, um. Everybody

but benefits from the mycelium underneath us. Yet, the jury is still out if eating and taking a mycelium product is actually beneficial to us yet, because we're finding that some mushrooms have compounds in the fruiting body and that that are not that are only that are not contained in the mycelium or vice versa. That's into mycelium, but

it doesn't come out in the fruiting body. UM. So for now, what I'd say is if you into an apple tree, you wouldn't pull off a leaf or some bark and eat it and hope to get some benefit. You would pick the apple and you would eat the apple. So now as we as we're going again back to the research thing. We need to research this. We need to find out if my cilium growing on grain, you know, is passing on some of the constituents of the grain

into the mycelium. So if you're grain heavy and you're diet already, do you really want to take more grain into your system. I'm a fruiting body fan. I like full spectrum medicine. I want the whole entire fruiting body altogether in my teinksture bar, capsule, whatever. Uh. That's that's my theory. And and we're gonna learn more. We're gonna learn more every day. They're discovering stuff every day. I really want to lead uh into this, you know, this

next era. M some studies with some former players to raise quality of life and then ultimately to see if we can reverse you know, the issues with the brain that you know that we're all aware of that we're gonna face at some point. But trying to extend life, and to extend life with with quality of life is really the key. And uh, you know if I'm if you guys are around when I turn ninety, I'll invite

you to my party at a trampoline park. I mean that's my visio energy, energy all day, energy all day. You know, it's funny, I've said that before, like I want to be live well into my hundreds. Oh man, you don't want to do that. You'll be in a wheelchair, You'll be all decrepit. And I'll tell people, men, shut your mouth and take that back. You put that energy, and you put that word out there. Words have extreme power, as we as we know being on you know, hey

it's fourth it's the fourth quarter. We got a minute left, no time outs. Let's go win this thing, right and we all believe and we go win it rather than oh god, there's no chance we need a time. Well, this isn't going well. Like we believe in the power of words because we lived it. And more people, you know, start buying into just that that power of word, the

power of thought, and then the power of nature. You know, we're coming into a full, full new perspective here on on Really how much we can optimize our human time here on planet Earth. Thanks for that answer, dere Jake, and as my man Peanut Tilman always like to say, we gotta pay some bills, and before we do that, we would like to honor Black History Month. In each episode this month, we'll highlight an NFL trailblazer, both pasted

in present in a sixty second tribute. Here's Jets defensive end Solomon Thomas telling the story of the first black woman to be named a team president in NFL history, The Raiders, Sandra Douglas Morgan. I'm proud to introduce to you today the president of the Las Vegas Raiders, Sandra Douglas Morrigan. On July seven, Sandra Douglas Morrigan make league history when the Raiders named her the nfls first ever

black female president. As we continue to celebrate Black History Month across the league, we shared the accomplishments of the past and president. Sandra Douglas Morgan is the first African American woman to be the president of the NFL team. Born and raised in Las Vegas, Morgan was a daughter of parents when stilled in her in the importance of education, honesty, kindness,

and hard work. She would go on to earn degrees in political science from the University of Nevada and Reno and law from the University of Nevada in Las Vegas. Described by Raiders owner Mark Davis as a force. We reckon with Douglas is a trailblazer and inspiration for current African American women and future generations to come. All right, Jake, we gotta we'd like to do this thing with all of our guests. He's a couple of little quick kidters. You just tell this first thing. Come on your brain.

This is fast, this is furious, and we're coming at you right now. You're ready, all right, Who cares if you're ready or not, it's coming anyways. What was your first welcome to the NFL moment? Oh? Man, uh, that veteran stadium on the two yard line. The coaches decided to put me into the game for my first live NFL action, And I stepped into the huddle and looked

at the guys and said, let's take this. Let's take this, you know what, ninety eight yards And they lit up like h and we took at ninety eight yards and scored. And that was really my first like welcome to the NFL. Moment when they believed in me. And once that happened, that belief was strong, and uh, you know, that's really all I wanted, was that belief in respect from the guy. So that was my first like here I am. And in that game, Richard Dent was still playing, he was

with the Eagles. He spun me around and slammed me into the turf on my left shoulder that still kind of has a little limitations from that hit. Said take that rookie. You know a few other words involved, and I jumped up and said, man, you're you're too old to be playing. Get your old ass out of the league. Because I had to give it back. Man. That was the way I had to fight, like, I had to show him that I wasn't scared, even though I was like, oh my god, that's your dead. But I had to

show him like there's no fear here. You can't stop me, you can't you can't break me. And uh yeah, that was a real good moment in Pheeling No Less a great place to come play games. I love playing in Philly. It's the fans. They were amazing. Jake who intercepted your last pass? Oh I don't remember, um, because my last throw was an interception actually against the Niners. I have to look back and see who that was. Um, you got all that right. It was against Niner's. It was

a Walt Harris Final games the sixth season. All right. You know what's crazy is I threw a hundred sixty one exceptions in my career and a hundred sixty one touchdown, So I figured I came out straight. Even Stephen, you're rocking sixteen all across the board too, Bro, I love it. Um. I know how much of a family man you are, and you love the outdoors so much. I've heard another interview you created dandylion fritters from your outside one time. I want to know, Bro, you gotta bring some of

those two a Z. I gotta try those. Those sound awesome. Yeah, they are good. And you know most people spray a bunch of crazy chemicals on their yard to kill dandy lions, and you know, we wonder why we're sick. And I just tell people, well, my dandelions get turned into fritters, and you can actually just pick a danie lion and eat it and there's no harm. They're depending on obviously, where it's grown to make sure, you know, my yard doesn't have any chemicals in it. I keep it clean

and organic. During the pandemic. That it was something that me and the family got into, was just going out and just finding, you know, different things in our yard like molow. Molow is the original original plant that they used to actually make marshmallows, mollow marshmallows, And so we ended up making some mollow out of a natural little plant that grew out in our yard. And usually you

pull them and and compost them. But um, yeah, doing that felt really awesome to to go out for its form mushrooms, find some while asparagus, do some dandelion fritters, and basically eat a meal that was just provided by nature. It did something inside my my DNA and my body. It felt different to eat like that. And uh, I don't do it all the time, but I'm I'm out forging still and trying to find more edible things out in the forest to be a part of and and

and to ingest. Of course. All right, last question for you here, Jake, uh Mount Rushmore. We asked everyone this question, right, you have to have your own personal Mount Rushmore? Who would have up there in sports. Is it sports or just people? And could be mom, dad, it could be Jesus, it could be a mushroom God, it could be it just Yeah, that's a question. I put Bob Marley on Rushmore. I think that's a definite effect he's had. I mean his music, his music is still alive, his children are

still passing on his message. And what his message was is one love. I would say, uh, Muhammad Ali because of what he did to fight for his his human rights, for civil rights, to stand up and and be himself and really to be one of the most authentic, genuine, one of a kind athletes that we've ever seen in the world. Um, and really be known all around the world.

You know what an amazing human he was. Albert Albert Hoffman, who was the guy who discovered l s D and uh, you know a guy who way back, you know, in in the early nineteen hundreds and mid nineteen hundreds, was was on what we're going through right now, on you know what, on investigating you know, the effects psychedelics can have on on people and and reprogramming rebooting us back to uh, you know, being being one again and connecting again and and being okay with the beauty surrounding us

instead of you know, ignoring what's around us. You know, you for you know, being being back in touch with nature, back in touch with the community, and with connections and humans again. Um, now my fourth one, I'm gonna put my mom on Mount Rushmore because you know, without her, I wouldn't be here. And I've learned so much from her, and she really started me down this path as the young kids. You know, she was very into our diets and and uh taught us to be really aware of

what we put in our bodies. And you know, we would take garlican honey if we had a cold, and we would put bruge east and our orange juice. And like she was way ahead of what's going on now just because her mother, my grandma, was a vegetarian and really into health, uh and and doing the right thing and in the nature and and so my mom definitely, um, you know, what she's done and how she's been there

for me is a definitely amount Rushmore for me. I wish grandmother would have met my grandmother because my grandma used to make me eat VI's vapor rub. We used to have a coach literally it says, do not consume.

She used to make us eat vapor up. I swear to you it was you could have some crazy that'd be a crazy podcast to get all the guys and like find out what their grandmama's You know, my grandmothers gave them for remedies, because there's probably some wild remedies out there if we really wanted to go deep, there's no doubt. Well, look, man, Jake, dude, you are blessing uh for for giving us your time today. We want

to thank you extremely man. Not only was our huge fan of yours as a player, but I'm so much more of a fan of you as a man today after listening and having this conversation with you, Peanut, Thanks again, man forgiving us your time. Brother. I love you guys, and thank you. And I want to thank all the listeners for tune in. As always, I want to ask you all again to continue to spread the word. Give us a rating of review and a follow on Apple podcast or I Heart Radio app or wherever else you

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