Instant Replay

field trips. I'll be back in the studio here pretty soon. So I know. People were actually wondering if the field trip included a ride to the Selfie Museum. Yeah or nay, no, not the Selfie Museum, not quite yet. But I may go there before I get on the flight to come out there, which is good and it kind of leads me down a path of what this episode is. When I dropped the selfie museum right because we all have

our phones were attached to technology. I know everyone right now who's listening to this podcast, like, think about this, m Rob. You and I are old enough and I like being able to say this. It was like it's the old school of Vetera. You and I are holding a back at my day we had a walkman and the whole thing. But think about us, like people are consuming our show on podcasts or even now on YouTube and they get to go and see us with makeup

on and the whole thing. Yes, let's bring it. But do you do you get that vibe that like we're almost too attached now to technology and maybe the game might be a little too attached to the tech. Well a quick answer, yes, I believe society is attached to technology a little too much. Just go walk through what we used to call malls, middles, things that shopping centers and stuff stuff. Absolutely, you go to a mall and

now everybody's looking at their phone, everybody's looking down. You go to a school where a bunch of kids are everybody's looking down. So I would say, yes, we are a lot more attached to a technology today than we've ever been in human times. Okay, so I'm gonna throw this year way. Some people are listening to this podcast, like, what's this technology in this NFL deal? All right, now it's about to make sense for you today we are all all about technology in the NFL. On a specific subject,

something that we're all used to seeing. We see it every single Sunday, every Thursday, every Monday. And you know what I'm talking about. It's all about instant replay, camera angles all over people and fans talking about officials not knowing what they're doing. Look at the end of the day, and I should preface everything that I'm about to say with legitimately, m rob, are there calls that are missed? Yes? Are the officials do? They do an absolutely incredible job

in real time? There is no doubt in my mind there's some of the best officials that we have in professional sport across the board. We get to be armchair quarterback in the moment because we're at home watching TV seeing everything in slow mode, frame by frame. Can you imagine having to make some of these decisions like this, No, not having it. It's tough, man, it really is. Yes,

it is tough. I don't know how they do it, but at the end of the day, they're paid to do it, So I'm not gonna let the referees off through too much. But bro, it was two times in my career in the National Football League. I have some times in college I e Penn State, Michigan, one second left on the clock. All Mike rob fans, you know what I'm talking about there, But I think it was two thousand nine. Brett Farve, he was playing for the Minnesota Vikings. Into the game last play, like a fifty

or pass or something like that. Brett Farve kind of scrambled around and threw a bullet to the back of the end zone to a dude that wasn't even on the team that week. Greg Lewis, Okay, this dude was like just chilling on the couch and where they brought him in and then he ended up catching the game when it passed the back of the end zone. And then one of the ones that everybody knows in twelve to fail. I'm not gonna say it's a fail Mary.

It was a hell Mary that worked go to take card it over, like three or four Green Bay Packers players made It was awesome. It was so dope. We had the replacement rests that that particular game, and I remember seeing one. I remember being on the sideline because it was base personnel, so base personnel, I would fullback wouldn't have been in the game. In the end of

the game, situations. But I remember one ref putting his hands up as a touchdown and the other ref just waving his hands like this, and I just said, you know what, sprint to the end zone, get Golden up, get him up out of here before they change their mind. We won the game. It's pretty cool. It was awesome. I actually have heard a lot of stories one of your teammates, Evan Moore, and I know I brought him up a couple of times. It's a good bunny of

mine was on your one of your teammates. At that point. He actually gave me some intel that we used last season on this podcast. It was all about Hail Mary's. So I do encourage some of our fans maybe to check out that episode going through the inner workings. Remind me when you're back in the studio, I got a question to ask you about that one. But the point is, at least on this episode, when it comes down to

instant replay, we're gonna go through the historical timeline. We're gonna give you some stats will tell you what we think is about to come. But I do think it's

important to start at the beginning here ninety six. The origin of this NFL director of Officiating, that's Art McNally, first experimented with instant replay by bringing a video camera to stop watch to a Dallas Buffalo game on Monday Night football, trying to figure out how long a review would actually delay the game, because I know this is a big critique for people, right like you got, oh, it's gonna extend the game and the whole deal, Like at the end of the day, we're going to the

timeline and how it might not be as big a factor as you think. He saw a miss call though on to play with O. J. Simpson that would have been corrected with a replay review, and he thought it

could benefit the NFL. Nineteen seventy eight, two years later, the NFL actually tested instant replay during seven preseason games broadcasted on National TV, beginning with the Philadelphia Miami Hall of Fame game, but overall the performance of the camera system and the cost to install a little prohibitive, so they actually tabled everything for a few more years. Taking the nineteen technology actually improved so much that the owner's voted four and one to add instant replay in a

limited capacity for the eighties. Six season replay officials sat in a booth with get this to VCRs if you don't know what Yes, VCRs dude, what happened to us? Man? We used to be young, right, Like I'm actually saying, like there, I know that there's people like what's the VCR. Yes, there are. I remember I used to have to record young and Restless in the general hospital from my grandmother when I was for your grandmother. Okay, yeah, sure, sure

if you say so. Um to think about that, like when you had to like make a mixtape, remember that you had to like hit plane record at the same time playing the like it's the whole thing. But the replay officials they had two VCRs there so they could record and watch back plays. In that first season, there were one point six reviews per game, with only ten percent of the plays overturned. In just the third play from scrimmage in six we actually got this right touchdown.

So the use of the instant replay on the third play from scrimmage and the new year already the new rule of the National Football leg you so by instant replay official has given the Browns that touchdown on an otherwise very confusing play. VCRs man, VCRs dude, it's like tracks for us, you know what I mean? Like? Okay, So despite that m ROB in n replay was actually shelved by the league over concerns that it wasn't efficient enough and that nine of the ninety overturned calls were

in fact incorrect. We then have to fast forward our VCR. What the new system actually addressed, issues like delays penalizing coaches with the charge time out on an incorrect challenge. It clearly worked well because in two thousands, seven teams voted thirty to two to keep instant replay permanently. Now, that same year, team spent three hundred k a piece to install high definition replay systems that were five times sharper.

The league designated a hub in New York where senior officiating members could be in contact with officials on game day, and then three years later, all game day decisions would be made by dead CATD officials at Art McNally game Day Central in New York and ROB. So there's an evolution that's here that we're seeing through instant replay, how it's installed. In your mind, is there something that could be improved upon? When you watch these games and you

see what these three play officials are doing. I think just having a sky judge, just having somebody that can see egregious calls, can see things obviously missed obviously to have something to do with the success of the play. Just a sky just to be up there, just to kind of have the referees back, to have the officials on the fields back right if they miss something that has something to do with the play, that sky just can buzz in and be able to interrupt and be

able to get it right. Because at the end of the day, we all want it right. I don't care if you're on the side of the car where it benefits you or you're on the side of the car where it doesn't benefit you. Everybody wants to get the call right. In this past spring, I was with the USFL. I did some some of those Spring games, and it was just interesting to hear the back and forth between

the referees right that their microphones were always open. As a broadcaster and as a viewer, you're able to hear kind of their thought processes and what they're going through right, and even the reviewable plays Like it was just cool to just hear that. First of all, their job isn't easy, not at all, like the way that the speed at

which this game moves. Obviously, we're all fans of the game too, so to stop yourself from watching the game from an entertainment standpoint and watching the game from a standpoint of actually officiating it is a very difficult thing to do. Just talking to some of the rest of that I talked to down they're being able to officiate that game. But I think having a sky judge and maybe having just audio opens that we are actively listening to how our referees come to their conclusions. Yeah, I know.

I think that transparency is huge and it could be really beneficial for fans who are very quick to point to mistakes and feel like, no, no, how do you mess that thing up? Like it's not that easy, And dudes aren't just sitting back, you know, watching the games like we do on our couch right like it is. It is a very different vibe for a lot of these games that I don't think people really think about

too much. But it is really important to explain at least the exact process once replay and rob is actually triggered in a game. So I mentioned the Art McNally game Day Central location. They use brand new technology. It's a new system and it was installed last year. It's called Hawk Eyes Smart System. The Smart is an acronym synchronized multi angle replay technology five times fast. It's no joke. So they use the Hawkeyes Smart system to isolate the

best possible angles for a broadcast. The officials at the game day Central location they communicate with the stadium replay booth as well, and then after talking with other officials on the field and the coaches, the head referee is given a and we've seen a lot of these on the sideline the Microsoft surface to review the play. At that point, he communicates with senior designated members at the game day Central location that Art McNally spot who makes

the final decision on review. So it's really multilayered approach, Emrod, that you've made reference to. It can feel like forever for a lot of fans, but the process is actually really streamline. What I find fascinating and this we don't talk nearly enough about this. I see this in every single sport, em Rod. You're on the football field, reviews happening, Officials are you know, gathered, there's players kind of huddled around these dudes and at little little chirping back and forth.

What's actually being said in those moments, Like what's that vibe, Blake? Well, first of all, it's one of those vibes where you're like, do there's First of all, there's no way you threw that flag on me, No way you threw that flag on me, man. And then you're the funny part from me because I've done this before. You're trying to get the referee or the official to look at the big screen with you so you can talk him through the

play and all that. I mean, he can't come to a conclusion just looking at the big screen in the stadium. But that's what all the fans are looking at. That's what we're looking at, and we're basically saying, look, dude, you got it wrong. You got it wrong. You know what I'm saying. So we always have some quick, you know, some fun banner back and forth with the referees, and people don't realize, like coaches, especially the head coaches, they

could get you ready for the officials. Like I know and every team I've been a part of every single week, the head coach in the big team meeting room, he you know, brings up the projector all of the referees for that week would be up. They have their statistics on the calls that they make, the calls that they like to make. You know what calls do do they

make the most on the road. I mean all these different types of statistics about the officials, and so when players going to a game, you know exactly who you're dealing with. I remember playing with your sherman for a few years out there in Seattle, and there were always times where on the sideline Pete would have to remind him, look such and such is the back judge. Understand that he's watching you. There's no need in yelling at the white head. There's no need in yelling at another official.

This is the guy watching you, and he calls a lot of passive affairs, and so maybe you don't get his hands e today and things like that. It's just great information to have, and it gives you an advantage on game that I'm actually mad because we did an episode you and I this season on head coaches and what they do. You never brought that up in that episode. Come on, manmo in the Champion here. I know, well, you know what that's not my fault, Yams, that's not

my fault. That's your fault. I know you want to say that's my fault, but that's your far it's your job, like psychologically, get into my right and put all of those stories out. Man, he finally did it on this episode. No we we I was that's a good way to spend it. I was saving something for a little later date in time. You know what's fascinating about what you just described. In other sports, I know they do this, and I think the same could be said for football.

Don't you use that replay time as almost like an extra time out? Oh? Yes, are you kidding? Made coaches are coaching up like crazy. Half the time, you already know what the result of the call is gonna be, and you're coaching up like if it was an interception, and you know, everybody's like, all, that wasn't an interception. That wasn't an interception. Defense coordinated to see it. They called out, hey man, look that was a pick. Man, y'all gonna get on off the field now, the offense

coach and start coaching their guys up. I mean, yeah, it's a pseudo time, but I remember camp Chancellor telling me we were playing in the NFC Championship game. We were playing in San Francisco for the Nintors, who was the team that I was with before the Seattle Seahawks in that big NFC championship game before the Super Bowl a year we won the Super Bowl. And Cam hit Vernon Davis so hard, Bro, Like I think I'm asked, told the story on this podcast before. But he hit

Vernon so hard it was legal. It was with his shoulder. In everything I think you can if you look back to you're gonna see that hit. That was all over the highlights he knocked. He hit Vernon so hard, vernon pants got twisted and ripped. I ain't never seen nothing like that. He hit it with his shoulder and his pants got ripped. To think about that, and then the referee waited like five seconds and then through the flag and Cam was like, man, Man, were you talking about

what you're talking about? And um, I said Cham. When Cam got back to the sideline, I said, Cam, what the hell happened? Man? What just what did he say to you? He said, Bro? I said, why did you throw the flag in the referee? I never forget Camp telling me he said. The referee said, Bro, that looked way too violent. I said what Camp said? Yeah, man, he said it looked too violent. This is football, right, And we had a moment on the sideline. It was pretty cool. But it just goes to it, man, referees

are human too. Things look very violent. You just said, Oh, something had to have happened. That's why we need this guy, judge. That's why we like that command center to help our guys out on the football field. Yeah. I know, I'm with you there, just that extra set of eyes. One other note on the dialogue that's happening. Do certain guys how do I put this, have a reputation and maybe those experiences with officials have them thinking differently, like sure, Leash,

do you know what I mean? Uh? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Um, what's my guy? Man? He used to play for the Arizona car knows what the Florida State. I hated playing a dot Knell Docket that's his name deep as a tackle. Oh, I hated playing that dude. I hated playing that dude. Every time I encountered him, I felt like it was a dirty play every time I went up against him. I'm looking at the rough flight. And again, I played fullback and running

back sometimes, so my encounters were him were minimal. But I hated playing that dude, and I would always go to the ref every single place I do. He's doing something every single play. It's one of those guys that you hate playing against what you love when he's on your team. That's one of those guys that I would always go to the referee. And but like, man, keep your eyes on that dude. Love shout off to Donell Doc.

I don't know what he's doing in life now, but he was kind of like my neighbor in Arizona want to live there, shouting He's probably like I appreciate that. I like that people were thinking about me in those terms.

All Right, we're gonna continue this conversation because I do think it's important to consider what's happening in New York when a lot of these plays are getting reviewed and you men shin m rob your experiences listening to some of these conversations with that is actually, like, there's so many things that these officials are responsible for, confirming scores, turnovers, initiating reviews under two minutes during both halves and obviously

over time. In addition, they're analyzing game decisions. Think about this. Before every single play, they're verifying the clock status at the beginning and the end of every play, confirming the correct number of players on the field at the snap. Every time I see too many men on the field, I'm always like, how did you figure that out? Like, I'm sitting there watching going, dude like you, I'm not

great with numbers, but I'm sitting there. I'd be like one to you, like on the finger, old school counting. You're not going, you wouldn't count. Mike. What happens is when you played this game, will see this game feeling enough? You just feel it. You like, dude, there's too many guys that line right there, there's just too many secondary players. You just feel it. Man, Yeah, best defense you went up against. I'm guaranteeing like there was eleven dudes on

the field and it felt like there was fifteen. And you just kept looking around like it feels they don't feel like there's any windows for me. There's not enough holes. The whole thing. I get it all right. When we come back, we're gonna take you through some of the numbers behind instant replay, which teams are doing it the most successfully, and actually how often calls are being overturned. That's coming up next on the NFL Explain podcast. All right,

welcome back to the NFL Explained podcasts. Mike Yam and Rob with you. And I think I went this whole week and I did not get someone siding into my d M s with a question, which is weird. Yeah, like we're slacking here because I'm as e Proba will tell you, I get legit excited when we get questions

for our mail bag episode. So once again, if you're checking this out on our YouTube, which by the way, I just found out before we started rolling that our shows are now available visually as well as you can obviously just listen to the audio. I'm much better looking on in podcast form than YouTube form. But um, it's you know, the the imagination, you know, the whole mind. No, you need to go to YouTube and check it out because anytime yeams get embarrassed or whatever, you can see

the sweat happening on his hairline. So also the same thing happens to me too, so you know it takes one to know where. Yeah, no, no, the sweat I always and I do. You know, I beat up pretty easily. But you're right that that does happen, you know, Just because now I know we're on YouTube, I'm gonna ask our makeup people if they can come and do touch ups and to make sure that whatever thing's okay. You

know what I'm saying. Um, But in all sincerity, we do actually appreciate the questions that we have been getting. I swear to you if you do DM me or m Rob really just me. I promise I screenshot everything, I send it to our crew. I put it on a text thread. There's emojis firing all over the place. I get hyped up and Rob gets hyped up, and I promise we will get to some of those shows. By the way, we made a whole episode, not even just for the mail bag episode. We made a whole

episode based off of one of those questions. So we'd love to hear from you. You can find us on social media at my underscore or yam at real mic Rob on Twitter. All right, let's get back to the instant replay stuff. How often it's successful? Because I think that's the question that everyone is thinking about. So between

nineteen eighty six, it was just a kid. In nine, during the first iteration of instant replay, there were an average of two point two plays reviewed per game, but reversals only happened twelve point six percent at the time. During those days, coaches weren't actually allowed to challenge that change.

Under the current iteration of instant replay, so since nineteen ninety nine, there's been an average of one point three plays per game challenge and thirty nine percent of the plays have been reversed, So that is a big jump in terms of those reversals. In nine nine nine, a total of one ninety five plays were reviewed, fifty seven reverse at a rate of twenty nine percent. But in one check this out, two hundred and seventy nine plays were reviewed, a hundred and fifty eight were reversed. That's

a seven percent rate of change, highest ever highest THATFFROM. Yeah, most review plays past completion, My lord, we've all watched enough football games to know that they checked those things out past incompletion. You can check that box as well and run or breaking the plant like that. Totally makes sense to me on those scenarios. Going back to what we were talking about though, at the top of some

of the technology. Is there something emrod that you would point to as to why we're seeing the reversal change so significantly, I would point to just the technology from the television that from the technic quality of the images. Yeah, the quality of the images. I mean you could right now they can zoom into that sideline shot when a guy's running on the sideline and you can see whether it's a blade or two of grass in between his cleat in the white line in We just weren't able

to see that, right in nineteen ninet. We just weren't able to see those types of things. And I think as the quality of the picture continues to get ramped up, I think you'll see even more calls get overturned because the game moves so fast, right, and so for an referee or to have an opportunity or a fan for that matter, to have an opportunity to see this game slowed down frame by frame, that's truly when you can get to the essence of you know, what's causing an issue,

or what a penalty is, or things like that. I do think it's interesting that we still don't know where it catches. I played football all my damn life Mike, and I still don't know where to catch out. I still don't I know from the letter of the law what it catches, but from watching it. To me is hard because at the end of the day, I can go out to any park in America, in any city and see kids making some crazy catches that may look like an incomplete past, but our truly catches because it

catches a feet, it has a feel to it. So I don't know, man, I don't know. Just to replace some sometimes it's made it harder on me to determine what the hell is going on out there. You and I both know that someone's gonna DM you and go what is it catch? For the mont episode? That's what they're gonna say, all right, Welcome back to the NFL Explained podcasts. Mike, yam m ROB with you. I'm with you on those camera angles and the quality. And here's

the best thing that I can say about it. We all watched these documentaries on sports m ROB from decades ago, and we watched them back, whether it's you know, the old school NFL film stuff, stuff at the NBA, Major League Baseball, like think about I was watching something the other day and said, oh, my god, Like I didn't know how bad it was for us to watch sports because now we just take for granted, you know, got h D, the oh lad TV, the whole thing, right,

Like I don't even know if I'm using the right terminology, but you know what I'm saying, Like we got all this like great technology, and when I flash back and go, how did we even know who the hell was on the field, Like everything seems so blurry, like quality was so bad. So to me it makes so much more sense, like some of these video angles and the quality of the picture. I'm like, oh my god, I'm watching Thursday I Football. I'm private. I'm thinking myself, man, like think

about this, like just crazy, man, it is. WiFi is good exactly. I even um I said earlier. I did some of the USFL football games this past spring. They even have a drone that has even more unique angles because the drone is able to kind of get in there, you know, on player level. So again, I just think as technology grows, will continue to again try to get things right. That's the ultimate goal in our sport, getting things right. And as technology goes, I think we'll continue

down that path. Do you think the game's over officiated. Uh yeah, times I do. To me, especially like with this rough and the pastor thing. You know, we can have that discussion on subjective calls and you know, rough and a pastor wood is roughing, you know, to each individual and things like that. To me, it is a subjective thing. But I know, quarterbacks are quarterbacks and with dry fans, you know, and they're the post the boys

of the league and things like that. But to me, they're football players, and these calls are literally determining games. And we talk about the parody in the National Football League and how each week we don't know who's gonna win, and each year there could be a new Super Bowl champion, and we love it. We love it. I love that fact about our league. But if that is the case, if that truly is the case, then that means officiating.

The calls have to be right. And at the end of the day, when you're you put somebody at the beginning of the season say we want to protect quarterbacks and rough and the passion is going to be, you know, a call of emphasis, and these calls are determining games. Again, Mike, I was a role player of my entire career too many losses. I'm one of the first ones to go at the end of the day, I don't necessarily believe in that. So yeah, this game can be over efficiated.

You know. I'm with you. And and get it back on the instant replay bandwagon for a second, because I think one of the other facets of this conversation is how long do these replays actually take? And I think the number will probably surprise people. And let me just say this, like, I don't think people understand. You know, what's it like to be in twenty seconds of silence? Like it just and it feels like a long time.

So when you're watching to make sure you're dude, and that touchdown two feet in in the end, zon't like that feels excruciating. But in reality, the numbers aren't as crazy as you think because at its lowest point in the average replay was taking one minute and forty four seconds last season. The average to go up a minute, right last average last season two minutes and twenty three seconds. So the fan who's waiting still like to twenty three man like it. It's not as crazy as you think.

To get it right, the teams that have been most successful since ninety nine at overturning calls, Dallas Cowboys forty point one percent at a time, the Eagles at forty six point six percent of the time. So you're starting to say to yourself, like, why is that why those two teams, Well, here we go. Those two squads are number one and number three when it comes to playing primetime games. Since so you're saying, all right, well, why is that important? Here's what I can tell you, and

I've experienced this. It's important because primetime games have way more cameras than the games that you're seeing on Sunday afternoon, sometimes as many as four times the amount. And I know that sounds crazy, m Rob. You've been in this business in a long time, just like I have. Like if you go to a prime time game and you see the production trucks that are out there, and you know the amount of cameras has a lot of tools in the tools shifts were for these crews. So more cameras,

more eyes, better angles, more opportunity to reverse calls. Those camera angles specifically, that is an opportunity for plays to get overturned and really to get the perfect call as much as you want. So I want to mention a few of the famous instances of instant replay. Music City Miracle replay able to confirm the wild lateral that lad the Titans to beat the Bills in that was actually the first year that we've played came back the des

Bryant or non catch, depending if you're Pakistan. It's kind of like that film Mary you were talking about a little bit before, and obviously went as Bryant scored that go ahead touchdown and Rob, I know you mentioned film Mary. Anything else that comes to mind with some of these three plays and some of those moments for you. I mean, obviously the Megatron one, I think he was in Chicago. I think when he was getting up off the ground,

it was obvious catch to me. But it just seems like some of the some of the makers of our game had never seen a human being do anything that great. But I mean, to me, you have to go to that Ram Saints two thousand and eighteen NFC Championship game. Right to me, that was the most egregious no call that should have been passed, an ofference that didn't get called, there was no replay for that was the most egregious

one of them all. If our listeners remember Robie Coleman Nickel Roby Coleman, the defensive back for the Rams, ended up hitting the Saints Tommy Lee Lewis, and I mean should have been called. It was passing affairs. It was Agreedi just looked like the referee was about to throw the flag and then he didn't. Then we started questioning how the officials actually formed their team for playoffs. It was a whole big mess. You can go back to

some of the stories back then. But again to me, the past and inference call again, another subjective call being in question, and again to me, a sky judge would have helped that. Somebody that you said, wor wold World World War WOA. Come on, this is about the game, the integrity of our game. We cannot let this play move on without this play being called. So yeah, I think that thousand eighteen NFC Championship game was probably the

one that comes to mind the most. And my just thirteen of eighty one passing inference challenges were successful in twenty nineteen. So it was scrapped in and they're trying to figure out a process to make subjective calls better because again at the end of the day, there's no there's no line of demarcation on some of these subjective calls where referee could just say, yeah, they met all of these. So this is why we made the call.

That comes down to the opinion of the referee. So it's that in mind, do you You and I were talking off fair before we started recording, and I had said to you, hey, like, do you think we get to a point where every play gets reviewed? And I think you and I are probably on the same page that the answer is yes. After hearing the number that you just threw out there, I'm almost wondering, like, hey, man, like that might be a little further out than I

had thought. Like I thought maybe the end of the decade. Maybe it's longer. I don't know. Yeah, well, I look at it like this, like and I think, um, I was at some owners meeting some years ago and Bill Belichick was talking about this, and this is not something I'm breaking or anything. We all know what's going on. He just said, yes, keep the number of challenges at a limited number, two or three, whatever we decide, but

make any play challengeable. And what you're challenging has to have something to do with the success of the play, and to me, that would limit the length of some of these challenges, but it would also give coaches a tool in their tool box where they feel that they've been sliding on a particular call because of the parody, because of how close these teams are, they can use their tools, their toolbox to potentially get the right call.

I think that's something we should look at. So I told you this story, and I don't know how much I told you before. Sometimes I just say I'll save it for air. You say the same thing. I used to work on a project in virtual reality around the NFL. I did that for a couple of seasons and it

wasn't ready for prime time yet. When I think about the image quality that we get just watching normal TV, but m ROB, I actually think in a lot of ways that's the future of instant replay, because like when you get the headset on or even a R which is augmented reality, like you put those headsets on, man, Like if I turned to my right, I see exactly what everyone sees as if I was actually at the game.

And I think if the quality of the cameras get better, especially that drone one or the sky cam that's coming through like em rob. You literally can get every single angle of every single play, like I would imagine that has got to be where it goes, probably in the next I don't know, five ten years. Oh, that would be interesting right there. Games players, I don't know if I'm with players would like that. I mean, just just getting everything everything replay, everything is all camera again, the

goal is to get it right. If the goal is to get it right, which it is, I would vote for that. I would be in favor of that. Do the players ever have conversations about what they want or don't want? Um like informal do Most guys don't. They don't like replay like I would imagine skill, but like the wide receivers want. Big guys don't care. Big guys

don't care. I mean, and I was a runner, so a lot of the runners that I've talked to over the years, we're always fighting for extra yards and they hate sometimes the spots of the you know where the spots are and where officials car runners down. Again, in the USFL, they put a computer chip in the ball so you never had to guess where the ball went out of bound. You never had to guess exactly, Hawf offers down was I think more technology like that, it's coming.

That's awesome, you know, I think about that like that solves a lot of issues. Put up that virtual wall around the field, and soon as that ball goes over, like you know, it's out. At that point, technology rules the world. That's why the Selfie Museum is thriving. Yes, that's exactly the reason why. I know I made reference to it a little bit earlier. And that's the idea of getting into our d m s. If you got a question don't know who to ask, we got you

covered at Real Bike Rob at Mike Underscore. Yeah, if you're new to the podcast, tell a friend, tell a friend, hop a board, hop a board, follow us wherever you get your podcasts and m Rob. I've sprinkled this in throughout the course of the show. I'm actually legit excited about this. We are we're now, our faces are out there. It's you can find us on the NFL YouTube channel. I had heard rumblings that this might happen, m Rob. The other rumbling that I heard is me and you

we're getting our own show that's separate from NFL explained. Yeah, it's gonna be a huge, huge thing. Details for real, man, I'm getting pumped up. Run to California right now. Yeah. Well, you know, not to make you disappointed, but you know how they say, like speak things in to existence. That's what I was doing. So that's what it's not. A vision board at home. Don't actually have always legitimately appreciate you guys checking us out. It's instant replaying, exploited