The Season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome everybody to a Super Bowl Week edition of the Season with Peter Schreger. I am so thrilled to have two different podcasts here from Arizona. Both of them are with very influential people in the NFL, and both of them make for very unique guests in a crowded space of NFL podcasts. You see, I got here to Arizona and I said, did we get an
next player? Do we get maybe a current player, Do we get a former, you know, league executive, somebody, anyone, maybe one of the guys calling the games? And that all would be great. I thought, for this week's podcast, let's get two guests, the two lead dogs of both of these franchises. Yes, in this episode, it is going to be chairman and CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs,
mister Clark Hunt. And in part two, which is going to be posting shortly thereafter, it is the chairman and CEO of the Philadelphia Eagles, mister Jeffrey Lorie's quick background on Clark Hunt. He became CEO of the Chiefs in twenty ten his father, Lamar Hunt. Of course, when the legends of football history passed away and Clark took over. He was officially CEO in twenty ten, and he has been the driving force behind the resurgence of the Chiefs franchise.
The Chiefs have won eight AFC West titles and have been to the playoffs ten different times since twenty ten alone. They are AFC champions this year. They were AFC champions two years ago, they were AFC Champions three years ago. That means Clark has hoisted the Lamar Hunt Trophy three of the past four seasons. He's also done incredible things with the org chart. When he took over, it was the GM reports to the owner and so on and so forth. No, no, he changed things. He said, let's
restructure the organization and how this thing is built. The coach directly reports to the owner. The GM directly reports to the owner, and that was in twenty thirteen. It also sinks up quite nicely with the hiring of maybe the most influential person in this Chief's organization on the field, mister Andy Reid. I'm excited to ask Clark about the
hiring of Andy Reid. How that all went down. And I'm also going to ask about the hiring of Brett Veach, which was an internal hire in twenty seventeen as a general manager. But Clark, of course, when he brought in Andy Reid, Andy Reid, he himself took Brett Veach from Philadelphia with him to Kansas City. Look, Clark Hunt is a leading voice among a lot of the NFL owners
because of the different committees he's on. He's on the NFL Finance Committees, on the Personal Conduct committees, on the International committees, on the Management Council Executive Committee, and he played a key role in a lot of those CBA dealings both in twenty eleven and in twenty twenty. This dude loves his Chiefs. He loves his Chiefs. It is a family business. And he is there at every game and he is there on the crowns and arrowhead when you see them take the field every Sunday in those
home games. I am excited to bring on Clark Hunt as gentleman, the CEO and chairman of the Kansas City Chiefs. Mister Clark Hunt, and with no further ado, I'm excited about this guest. He's the chairman and CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs, and his team is in the Super Bowl yet again, and they are now AFC champions the third time in four years. Clark Hunt, Welcome to the season with Peter Schreker. Yeah, thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be on with you today. Yeah. Look,
we're thrilled to have you. You know, the Andy Reid storyline is playing such a huge role. But I feel like there's this vague memory of Okay, well, Reid is done with the Eagles, but three days later joins the Kansas City Chiefs. I always wanted to know where were you in that process and the Chiefs organization as to getting Andy right on board and away we go. Since twenty thirteen, one of the most successful franchises in football. Yeah,
we're looking back. It's hard to believe that it's been almost ten years ago, and how blessed we are to have Andy. I remember, you know, calling him on Monday was referred to black Monday around the league. We had just parted ways with our former coach, and I've heard that Andy had been let go, and so I called his cell phone, thinking, well, you know, I'm just gonna be leaving a message and hopefully called me back later, but he picked up and you know, which, you know,
shocked me. I'm not sure I was ready to talk to him. So we had a great conversation. We set up an interview a couple of days later, which ended up being in Philadelphia at FBO at the airport. You're at the airport and if I remember, it was like here the Chiefs are, and then there's always rumors that like the Cardinals want to interview, and you read, but it never even got to that point. The story goes, you guys meet, It's a nine hour interview, if I'm
not mistaken, maybe even longer. And by the end of the day, Andy Reid was like, let's go. I'm the new Chiefs head coach. Yeah. It was an amazing day. We were supposed to have about a three or four hour interview, and you know, we just hit it off. And I had some of the chief staff there with me so he'd have an opportunity to visit with them, and it was clear we had had a lot to talk about it, and it just just kept going and going, and eventually he told me, you see that plane out there.
I was supposed to get on that to go to Arizona. Is that right? It was there in the part it was there, like on the runway, it was it was just outside, you know, with the step down, you know, ready for him to get on it. And you know, he made the decision not to make that trip because I think he felt like there was a really good chemistry with me and the others who were there representing the organization. So the interview, you're right, we went on
nine hours, which is a hard way. I'm not sure was talked about for nine hours, but but we did, and uh, you know, we agreed to get together a couple days later in Kansas City. He wanted to come see our facilities and he wanted his wife came in to get a chance to see Kansas City. And so they came in on Friday, my wife that Tammy a tour. I took Andy to the facility. He saw everything, loved what he saw, and by the end of the day we had to sign contract. That's unbelievable. I love that.
That's a monumental moment in Chief's history. I think another monumental moment might be the day that number fifteen was drafted. Can you take us through your day that draft morning when you wake up and you might have word that we might be traded up. And when the pick was in and Patrick Holmes becomes the next quarterback of the
Kansas City Chiefs. Well, a lot of work went into that decision, and our general manager Brett Leach was the first one to get on Patrick and he started showing Andy clips of Patrick's Texas Tech games a couple of years before. You know, Patrick was ready to leave and declare for the draft. And like Brett does on a lot of things, you know, he's pretty persistent, and he did. I get him. You know, he's awesome. We love to
have him. And then went through the process. Patrick came in for one of the visits in the lead up to the draft. You know, Andy took him through the quiz that he likes to give quarterbacks and Patrick a face that and so then they decided to bring me in to watch a little tape of Patrick. And I don't watch watch tape of players that were going to draft, but they wanted to show me how special this player was and why they wanted to move from late in the first round up to the tenth pick to get them.
So they showed me a few clips, you know, including you know, one of Patrick's roll to your left, flip your body around, throw the ball six yards, you know, with sidearm, throw into the end zone. I was like, that's that's pretty special. That's pretty good. Yeah, And so then we had the engineer of the trade and our general manager at the time, John Dorsey, did a great job of working with the Buffalo Bills to work out a trade that we would execute that Patrick was still
on the board. Of course, we didn't let anybody know who we were going after because we felt there were some teams at eleven, twelve, and thirteen that wanted Patrick's and if they knew we were going to ten to get Patrid, they might have jumped over us going to the seven eighth, ninth pick so they could take them. And we were all pretty nervous. You know. It was probably our as into the draft before it was our turn to pick, and you know, we had a lot
of nerves. And then he was there. You know, the excitement was unbelievable. That's an incredible story. And since then, you know, the teams come out of the woodwork thing. Yeah, we actually had them really high on our draft for it. It's like the Chiefs did it. They made the move, they were decisive, they had a quarterback, we take them to the playoffs, and that kind of gut decision in the conviction to do it. I think that's symbolic with
a lot of decisions the Chiefs have made as an organization. Look, you officially became the title of CEO in twenty ten. Of course you've always been with the organization in some capacity and in that time eight AFC West titles and ten playoff appearances. It's consistency in a league that is stacked and wants parody. What do you think is the greatest thing that you could attribute to that consistency and
this culture of winning in Kansas City? Well, as I was taking over, one of my goals was to turn us into a consistent winner. And of course there were other organizations and NFL who had done that. Pittsburgh Steelers across several decades had been a consistent winner, and of course the Patriots more recently are the best example of it. And it's a very hard thing to attend because there's so much turnover in the NFL on a yearly basis.
Of course, it all starts with your head coach, right, you got to find the right head coach and somebody that you can work with for the long term. And we've been blessed with that with Andy now now for ten years. And then Brett's been our general manager for about five years and he has done a phenomenal job. He and Andy worked really well together. They're generally on the same page, which you have to have with your
head coach and general manager. And then of course, you know, having franchise quarterback I think is really the last piece in the puzzle. And you're right. We had a tremendous quarterback and Alex Smith who led us to a lot of success, a lot of playoffers, but Patword has now just taken it to another level and we really have the foundation. I think you know that they can not only hopefully win a Super Bowl on Sunday, but continue being successful going forward. Yeah, and we'll see on Sunday
how it goes either way. The consistency and the success to say three at the last four years as AFC champions in this day and age where there's unprecedented you know, strength to schedule the draft the way it's built. The NFL is supposed to be a league that turns over and the Chiefs, you guys are there every single year. I find you interesting in the NFL's grand scheme because
you're not just a part of the Chiefs. You're also a chairman of the NFL Finance Committee, you serve on the Personal Conduct Committee, you're in the International Committee, the Management Council, Executive Committee. And having covered the labor deals over the last twenty years, I know in twenty eleven and twenty twenty what an influential person you were in those conversations that To have those titles and to really dive into the NFL on the shield as a whole,
that's that's a commitment, but it's also a love. I know your family history with the league and of course with the sport, but you personally to play all those different roles, where all those different hats, that's next level. What what do you think about doing all that stuff and what drives you to play a bigger role for the league than not just the Chiefs, chairman and CEO. Well, first of all, I enjoy it. I love the league
responsibilities that I have. It is a lot of work, but by working on many league initiatives that I'm involved with. I'm indirectly making the Kansas City Chiefs better because it's making the NFL better. I also think it's an advantage for the Chiefs that I'm plugged into what's going on at the league office and the many initiatives that they have. I'm aware of those. You know. Being involved in the labor discussions has given me a good understanding of the
salary camp and how that works. So when I'm talking to Brett Beach and our sary camp guys, I've got some context there. So I think it's beneficial in many regards. But first and foremost, I just really enjoy it. Yeah. Now, and the international stuff is huge. We got as a show Good Morning Football, got to go to London and Germany this year and to see the outpouring, and of course we got the great announcement with the Chiefs in
Germany just a couple of weeks ago. I know that's a piece that's close to your heart in a passion of years. The international aspect, When did that come about? And why are you so heavily invested in international expansion
and growth of the NFL. Well, it really goes back to my dad and his involvement with the league's international affirst back in the eighties and nineties, and of course that manifested himself in the league playing preseason games, which the Chiefs played preseason games in Germany, in Japan, in Mexico, you know. So my dad was all about having the Chiefs represent the NFL in those initiatives. And then of course we also had NFL Europe, which is, you know,
something that our organization supported. Over time, we received a number of players who got their careers going in the
NFL Europe and then came to the NFL. Ultimately, the league pivoted and decided that we've got to be bolder, and over the last ten to twelve years, the league decided really the best way to build a fan base internationally is to play regular season games, and that's something that we've embraced as well, playing a game in London, playing a game in Mexico City a few years ago, and then, as you mentioned, we've got the game coming up in Germany, and now the league has given the
teams the ability to market internationally here in the last eighteen months or so, and the Chiefs were awarded the rights to Germany in Mexico, and so we've been working on that and we really just think getting to play a game there next year is really going to cause the Chiefs Kingdom to continue to grow in Germany and throughout Europe. You know, it's a Tampa Bay Seattle game. We were over there in Munich and I'm walking down the street with one of my co hosts and I
see a Chiefs bar in Munich. You've got Seattle and Tampa Bay playing, but there was a Chiefs dedicated sports bar. I mean, I'm like, oh, certainly it's just expats who live over here. And I walked in and it was Germans, Germans who loved the Kansas City Chiefs, and I said, all right, this is more than just hey, we're gonna put a game in there and leave. This is a commitment from the NFL and it's starting to pay off.
I also know you're very invested in the World Cup and what that means to Kansas City coming up in twenty twenty six. And soccer runs deep in your family. You yourself or the captain of the SMU soccer team, obviously your father's amazing involvement in soccer in the States. To know that there's gonna be a World Cup game played in Kansas City. What's that mean to you? Yeah, really really special. If you go back to the nineteen
ninety World World Cups, the US also hosted. My dad made that ort to get games in Kansas City, and ultimately FIFA made the decision not to do that. And so when the opportunity resurfaced on the twenty six World Cup, we jumped on and worked really hard and it's just an incredible win for the city to get to be one of the World Cup posts. There's no better way to market a city on an international stage than getting to host a World Cup game. So we're really excited
about it. It'll be a special moment for our family when that first game kicks off an Arrowhead because there was no place that my dad loved better than Arrowhead Stadium, and you know, having a World Cup game played played in that venue is going to be really really special for the listeners. Can you just shed a little light on your father's connection to soccer in America? I think,
I mean, I've read the book Michael McCambridge. Your dad's commitment to soccer as well as football is the stuff of legend yeah, happy to do that just from a contact standpoint. And and I want to tell the whole story because it's long, But the NFL and my dad's American Football League had agreed to merge in nineteen sixty six.
After a big struggle in battle for five or six years and having succeeded with the AFL, I think my dad decided that he needed a new challenge, and so in nineteen sixty seven he got involved with what became the North American Soccer League, which was really the first division soccer league in the United States. His team with the Dallas Tornado that played in Dallas, and that league lasted about fifteen years. He'd actually fallen in love with the sport first seeing a game with my mother when
she was in Ireland on a fellowship. He went over and visited her and they saw a pro game. I think that may have been his first pro game. And then he saw the nineteen sixty sixth Final between West Germany and England, which is considered George best, one of the great finals of all the time, and he was captivated by the fans. And as he looked at that game on TV, he said, you know that game has played on the field that looks about the same size
as the American football field. So I think part of his motivation was, Hey, we could have a soccer league and here in the US they could play mostly in the summer and play in these new stadiums that were being built at the time. So the process to build Arrowhead was actually under way in sixty six sixty seven. The same thing with Texas Stadium in Dallas. That effort was already underway, and he knew that stadium was going to be built and so he thought, hey, this will
just be be a perfect fit. As it turned out, he was about forty years early with that. Uh you know, it's a great visionary but his vision on soccer was a little bit early. But as soon as the opportunity came back around in nineteen nine six when Major League Soccer started, he jumped in with both feet. We started out owning two franchises, one in Kansas City, one in Columbus, Ohio. We later added Dallas to the portfolio, so we were running three MLS teams at once, and you know, he
loved it, even though it was really really hard. You know, now that league has really taken off over the last ten to fifteen years, and we're going to have the World Cup back, as you mentioned, which I think will just be a celebration of what soccer has become in the United States. What a cool story. That's an amazing story. I love that you personally. Let's go back a couple of years twenty nineteen. This amazing run Sammy Watkins catches that deep pass in the AFC Championship game, and like,
you get the chills down your spine. You're like, this actually might happen. It's been fifty years. We're going back to the Super Bowl, that AFC Championship game against Tennessee. I know everyone focuses on the Super Bowl and hoisting the Lombardy, they have to think hoisting the trophy with your father's name on it and going back to Super Bowl that was pretty special stuff as well. Yeah, it
absolutely was. There'll never be an experience again like that twenty nineteen season, in part because of the journey that took to get there. Right, it had been fifty years
since the Chiefs had appeared in a Super Bowl. We had never held the trophy that has my dad's name on it, or trophy given the AFC champion and to stand on that stage, you know, after that game, received that trophy, had my mother kiss it, which still brings tears in my eyes just thinking about, and then looking up at our fans who had stayed glued through their seat even though it was seventeen degrees and they'd been out four or five hours freezing, and nobody left because
it was such a special moment and so important to Kansas City. So I'll never forget that for sure. And then, of course, you know, closing the deal in Miami a couple of weeks later, winning the Labari Trophy, you know, made it truly a perfect season. Yeah, and the Chiefs fans are a nationwide fan base. You know, we've had on the podcast two of them who happened to be celebrities. Paul Rudd is a is a huge Chief than he
came on early in the season. Eric stone Street last week, I know you started the game by banging the drum. Eric took over in the fourth quarter and got everyone going Super Bowl Sunday, They'll both be there. Where will you be And what is your day like as you gear up to say, hey, let's hoist this thing one more time. Take us through the day. Of Clark Hunt and the family as you gear up for Super Bowl fifty seven. Yeah, well, we'll start out the morning at
the hotel. And something that Jonathan Craft shared with me a few years ago when we were going to Super Bowl fifty four was to make sure you take some time that warning to just reflect on where you are and what you're doing. It's really easy on Super Bowl Sunday to be at one of them after the other, which will certainly do in the afternoon, but in the morning, I think it'll just be some quiet family time, just really celebrating the fact that we're back in the Super Bowl.
Then we'll go to the stadium. The Chiefs have a tailgate party plan for our staff and some fans and friends who are going to be there, So I'll swing by and uh, you know, say a lot of the group there. Then I'll head over to the NFL tailgate party, eat some shrimp. Probably that's gonna say like are we hanging or are we like tens? I feel like I would be just like a drum that day. Yeah, you know, I've wanted to really be calm until the balls in the air. So first of all, there's nothing I can
do that he can't do anything at that point. Yeah, yeah, I can't do anything, you know, you know, during the game, et cetera. But you know, before the game, I've wanted to be freely relaxed, but the tension will definitely build is as we head towards takoff and as soon as the balls in the air, my nerves will be crazy. Now I know you're competitive, and not because of the way that you conduct your business with football. I know it because Eric stone Street told me about a Washers
tournament in training camp. Can you go into this a little bit. What do we got going on? And how are you beating stone Street in a competitive game? So we had a lot of competitive people around me. The Juice organization and our general manager, Bred Beach came up with a Washers tournament for the mostly for the personnel staff, and this year was the second or third version of that.
I had not gotten drafted to play in the past year versions, but Bred told me about it when it was and I made sure that I was there for it. And I'd never played Washers, so it was a new experience. And you know, we had about sixteen teams and multiple rounds and face off with stone Street at one point and you got the better of him. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure he's over right. He's still talking about it. But but anyhow, it was. It was a lot, a
lot of fun. And Mike Bradway, who's on our staff, and I wait, we missed to pull out the victory. And so I'm the reigning Wash Roos champion. Okay, so you had never played before your first time out there, you win. I mean, this is like having Isaiah Pacheco and Jalen Watson and these rookies come out of nowhere and be making make plays in the AFC Championship Game. This is the parallel. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, well, maybe maybe we were just foreshadowing how important rookies were
going to base. You're setting the table and no doubt ten rookies all that playing a role on this team. Four was going to start in Super Bowl. I can't say enough about the rookie class here. Uh. In closing, Clark, thanks for doing this. The Hunt Family Foundation does incredible work and I know that's a passion as well. Several different initiatives. I know education is one of them that's close to your heart. What does the foundation working on
these days and where could listeners kind of direct their tension. Yeah, well, we've had a charitable effort really since my dad bought the team to Kansas City back in the sixties. That was something that he focused on with the players and staff and you wanted to make sure that they were contributing to the community. And that's something that we've just carried on and really elevated over the last ten or
fifteen years. And we do a lot of stuff with education, as you mentioned, a lot of children's initiatives in Kansas City, and then we've really focused the last several years on supporting the players in their efforts. And of course you're probably aware that Patrick Mahomes is up with Walter Payton Man of the Year at NFL Honors tomorrow night, and
I think he has a great chance to win. I went to his foundation's banquet a month ago and were so impressed by the great work he's doing in Kansas City. So if you want to support something, let's support the fifteen and Mahomies Foundation, which is the name of Patrick's foundation. I love it. I start wish you good luck. You know, this is a football game but for what the Chiefs have done over the last decade and changes is it's
the stuff that you know, dynasties are built on. I know you guys don't like using those kind of words, but the success is unparalleled right now in the NFL, and you guys are one of the class organizations of the league. Congratulations on everything and good luck on Sunday. Clark, right, well, thanks very much and so fun being on with you today. Awesome guys. Clark Hunt, CEO and chairman of the Kansas
City Chiefs joining us from Super Bowl in Arizona. So if he's seven is Sunday, we'll see how it all goes down. But we know the Chiefs are in very good hands. Clark Hunt, CEO and Chairman of the Kansas City Chiefs. You're not getting that interview everywhere else. I appreciate him taking the time. Busy week, as you heard, he's pulling for Patrick Mahomes to win Walter Peyton Man
of the Year. We were discussing that earlier in the week, and I didn't think of my homes because I was thinking, all right, you've got all these other guys who aren't in the Super Bowl. I wonder if can my homes be the winner of the Wilter Pitton Man of the Year. Either way, go google Lamar Hunt and the soccer stuff sounds incredible. The AFL stuff with Lamar Hunt is I'm telling you, I watch what is it call it hang Time about the Lakers and the eight a winning time
the Lakers in the eighties. I swear there is a show or a movie to be made fictionalized, of course, with a little bit of flavor of the start of the AFL, because those were the wild, wild West days of football. Then the merger with the NFL and Lamar Hunts front center and all of it. That's Clark's dad. He passes the Chiefs of course, go through a few head coaches, you know, they go through a couple general managers, and then Andy Reid and eventually Brett Veach and now
there the model of consistency in the NFL. Really like the Chiefs organization. I really like the Eagles organization. In part two of this podcast, which you will get on your feed coming up shortly, I also am going to sit down with Jeffrey Lorie, the president, the chairman, and the CEO of the Philadelphia Eagles. That's going to be
Part two. Click on that next really interesting stuff. His perspective on the Andy Reid transition from Philly to Kansas City, and of course what makes the Eagles such a successful organization. That's gonna be Part two. Our sponsor, Draft Kings. Let's get into it. It's the over under presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. I want to give you a couple names, a couple of lines that maybe are not being mentioned everywhere else. Start with Kenneth Gainwell. Kenneth Gainwell has an incredible story
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be prominently featured on the pregame show. I'm covering the Kansas City Chiefs Aaron Andrews will take it during the game, and then I will be back in postgame doing interviews with the players, and we'll see might be Clark Kant, might be Jeffrey Lorie. We're not sure how it's gonna work either way. I will be a part of that covered for Fox. Cannot wait, and also just want to thank all you guys for listening. There's a part two coming right up now. If you're an Eagles fan, you
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