Summer Break: Tony Robbins

ice cold water every single morning? Well? He told us our guest, Tony Robin. That's right. He starts every day with a literal splash. It's part of his strict morning routine and he swears by it. Yeah, I'm not so surprised. I mean, Tony, If I'm a man, Tony is like ten times a man. He's a superman, and he's also kind of what i'd call a force of nature. He's certainly a go go go kind of guy for sure.

Not only is he a best selling author, motivational speaker, entrepreneur, and philanthropist, he's also coached CEO celebrities like Richard Branson, and Serena Williams, and even presidents of the United States. In fact, in our conversation with Tony, we talked about his work with President Clinton at the height of his impeachment scandal. Has a reminder. This month, we're on a little summer break, so we're revisiting some of our favorite

conversations from the podcast Vaults, very heavily guarded vaults. Anyway, our conversation with Tony was one of our most popular episodes ever, and I'm really not surprised because he's a captivating speaker. People flocked by the thousands and thousands to listen to his seminars. By the way, Tony is a very enthusiastic guy, so if you hear a sound, you're not crazy. Those are Tony's hands slamming the table for emphasis with the force that I couldn't muster if I tried.

And those are some big hands that Tony Robbins has. But that's another subject there. I asked Tony to describe himself in his own words. I'm a you know, I'm a peak performance coach. I'm a consultant for people, but you know, I'm also an entrepreneur and philanthropist. You know, big part of my life today is besides helping people and events and things of that nature, I have thirty

one companies, so they're in very different industries. You know, I'm everything from I have a unique opportunity to do some some of the best stem cell work in the world. While simultaneously we've got virtual reality, the exclusive with the NBA, so you know, you see Monday Night Football, We're having Tuesday Night NBA. We have the exclusive with Live Nation, so we have I have about twelve hundred employees across four continents. We do five billion in sales each year.

And then I have my day job, which is about of my time because I love it so much, which is helping people improve their lives. And then philanthropy wise, you know, I'm feeding a hundred million people a year now. I've done that for two years in a row. I'm gonna feed a billion people over the next eight years

and it's not gonna I'm such a good guy. It's just when I was eleven years old, we had no money and no food on Thanksgiving and a man came to the door and delivered food and my father did not respond well to it, but I did my Dad always said, strangers don't care. And I think the biggest impact for me was not just that there was food, but the fact that I had evidence of strangers cared about my family and made me. It shifted me to really care about strangers. So I promised myself I'd feed people,

and I got to seventeen. I've had two families in the next year, four and eventually got to a million, two million, And I've had four million people a year for about eight years, and then two million myself and two millions through my foundation. Because I thought I had forty two million in a lifetime. What if I had fifty million this year? And then I got excited, made a hundred million, and I got Feeding America to be my partner, and they deliver. I mean, their efficiency is amazing.

So we've partnered, so we're gonna feed a billion people, and then the numbers were getting should provide an ongoing hundred million new meals per year ongoing from there on. Can I just say I give up? I feel so lazy and useless after just hearing that, I think we should just Wow, this is really impressive. Now, you talked about growing up in a tough environment and you did. Your dad left, as I understand, when you were very had four fathers, Yes, they all left. Your mom was

quite abusive. In fact, you left home when you were seventeen when your mom came after you with a knife. Can you describe how that upbringing kind of shaped the man you've become since then? I never talked about my mom when she's alive. I didn't, you know. I still love her to this day. She she had been the mother that I wanted her to be, I wouldn't be the man I'm proud to be because the fact that

I suffered so much, I mean she would. She was addicted to you know, prescription drugs and alcohol, and the mixed is not a good mix. And she got very violent. And I have a younger brother and younger sister five and seven years younger. So for me, I had to become a practical psychologist just to figure out to keep her in control, not hurt them much less hurt me. And so I really really grew as a result of that. I mean, I have suffered so much that I don't

want to see any human suffer. And I became obsessed with finding answers to how to help people and their suffering, how to have them have the beauty that they want for their life. And it just turned into a forty year enterprise. Uh, you know, and I've had the privilege of living in a time where you know, I go to twelve thirteen countries a year, I see a quarter

of a million people live. I mean, you couldn't have done that, you know, fifty years ago, you know, Tony, you know, I think that kind of childhood experience would have destroyed so many people. What was it about you and about sort of your psyche, your constitution, your outlook on life that you were able to turn it into something so positive. I'm sure you've examined that. I have.

I think that what saved me was reading my I early in my life I got exposed to personal improvement and personal development, and I took a speed reading class, and I promised myself I'd read a book of dad and do that. But I read seven hundred books in seven years and they're all psychology, physiology, anything that could improve the quality of life. And so because I was feeding my mind so much, I think that really gave it. The other part was I just love people, and so

you know, I love my brother and sister. To start with, I just want to help them. But by the time I was in high school, I would I had so many answers. I was, Mr Lucian, you have a problem, especially if you're a girl. I was highly to help you get over that stupid boy in your life. Either you were. I have such strong memories as a kid watching your infomercials on TV. That's how I first got introduced to you. That's Brian's way of reminding us how

young he is. I'm not so young. I'm practically middle aged now, but practically but but the point is, I think a lot of people who may have gotten introduced to you that way don't know that you've become this advisor to CEOs like Mark Bennie Off and Paul Tutor Jones, that you've advised Richard Branson, Steve Wins, Serena Williams, pat Riley on and on. How is your career kind of gone from you know, TV self improvement guru to advisor to the CEO stars. Well, I was always even early

my life. Quite frankly, I was a young kid, but I had unique insights because I had loaded my brain. You know, I'd gone for so many answers that I had them. I didn't have all the life experience yet, but I had this incredible passion to help people, and so it allowed me at early age, I was turning around. You know, when I was gosh hose, I was twenty let's say the eighteen nineteen nineteen, twenty years old. I

was turning around Olympic athletes. Twenty four. I turned around Andrea Agassi when he'd been number one and dropped to twenty nine, and got him back to number one, and he gave me enormous credit. Maybe too much, maybe not, but I helped him turn around either, I'm grateful. And then you know when I got to the President Clinton at that stage, and mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela at the game. Yeah, no, I have a name dropping because they were just incredible human beings that I got the

privilege to coach. I was pinching myself, but I also wasn't stupid enough to only coach them. I was learning from them. So for forty years I've not just been

coaching others thinking I got all the answers. I've been sucking the juice out of the brains of the smartest people I can find and most heartfelt people I could find doing the same thing I did with the financial And I said, if I want to, really, I've taught this for years, but I was so angry what happened in two thousand eight and that no one paid a price for it that by I said, I got to

use my skill. I've got. I have this unique gift I've coached Paul Tutor Jones for at that point, I think twenty years and twenty four years and now one of the leading investment managers. When to uv A with me? And I asked him after many years after we graduated, Hey, Paul, where were you when I was at u v A thinking, you know, that would have been a nice person to hook up with it you know what I'm saying. And he said, he said to me, I was probably drunk,

And I said, no, wonder we didn't meet. But anyway, continue well, Paul, as you know, as a gift to this country and a gift to the city for sure. With Robin Hood and albody's done. And I've learned so much from him. But but that's really what I've tried to do along the way, as I've tried to learn by other people's experiences because you know, in business, other people's money is leverage. I think what's much more valuable

in other people's money is other people's experience. When that other person's experiences dynamic and extraordinary, you know, it's wild. So really, in helping them, they're helping you. They all tell about Tony changed my life, saved my life. You know, you bring Mark any off some of my dearest friends. And I can remember Mark coming up to me after attending three seminars. Are aw, he's hard to miss. He's standing in the front row. He's as big as I am. Right,

he comes up and shakes my hand. He goes, this is my third seminar. I said, yeah, I know, he says. He goes, you just convinced me. You finally pushed me off the edge. He he says, I'm I'm leaving my job and I'm gonna start this new company called Salesforce dot com, and we're gonna change the business world, and you're gonna remember, and you're gonna come on the journey with me. And he goes, and I'll everybody he looked at me. He goes, Mark my words, we're gonna do

a hundred million dollars in business. Of course it's gonna do ten billion this year, right, So it's just a fun journey to see. But he says, if this is my favorite quote because it certainly serves me, goes around and tells everybody Salesforce wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Tony Robbins. That's bullshit. But I really like that he

sets it. But I think what people may have trouble understanding is, you know, you're sitting down with President Bill Clinton during the height or the depths of the Lewinsky scandal, and he's looking to you for advice. What can you tell him that he doesn't already know the truth? Um, I was with Peter Goober. I don't know if you know Peter owns the Udgers and the Golden State Warriors and a dear friend. No, but his partner dated confused the two. We don't want to spread that rumor you

can get in trouble his wife. But I was at Peter's house that was you spend every Christmas with him and askemen. And he calls me and says, presidents on the line. So what So I got a line? The President said, you know, I've had ten people tell me that right now I'm going through a tough time, you're the right guy. Would you come to Camp David and spend the weekend and talk with me? And I said, I can't come for the weekend and come for the day because this holiday I gotta be with my family.

But I said, I just want you to know I'm not a fan. And Peter, I'll never get Peter's face. I said, I'm completely respectful. It would be a privilege to serve you. But if you're looking for someone who's going to tell you what you want to hear, I'm the wrong guy. And there's a long pause, and then President Clinton said, I like that. I'm looking for something. I'm not looking to be told what I believe. I said, great,

then I'm happy to come. I have the phone. And Peter said, you just told the President of State you're not his fan. Have to invite you come? What the how's the matter with you? You know? So I went met the President and developed a real great friendship. But I can remember after the Blue Dress, we were an aspen together and going down the Red Mountain if you know that area, you know, and it's snowy and there's

it's surreal. You know, the President's motorcade in the middle of the night, going down this icy mountaintop and he said to me, goes, he said, you know, god, I'd run again if I could. And I was like, dude, if I were you, I'd get the hell out of dodge us teasing him, and he goes, no, Tony, what am I gonna do with the rest of my life? I'm fifty or fifty one whatever he was at the time, and h it's kind of crazy now because I just saw him last weekend and just to see what he's

done with his life. I know he's obviously massively disappointed what happened in the election, but to see what he's done out of office is truly inspiring. It's inspiring that you can't imagine. But to address what you said, I was thirty one and I'm advising the President United States. It's kind of trippy. I'm you know, a deer went running by. It's in the middle of the snow, and the President's telling me how bad the media is. It's

so funny. You see him telling me at that time and they don't listen, and you know, he's the first president that doesn't have an external enemy, so now everybody's turning internally, was his view. I remember thinking, this guy's president United States and he's whining, and it's like, I guess we all whine at times. And I got to figure out what to do to help this man and term relationship. Well. I don't talk about what I do

with people unless they talk about it publicly. Something I can tell you is one day, one of the more interesting calls I got can call me. One day I was at my office, people paid me and I get him the phone and he says, they're gonna impeach me in the morning. What should I do? And I'm like, first, could you have called me sooner? Yes, tomorrow morning, right? And I said, that's the wrong question. And the question you got to ask is what do you really want?

Because what to do is based on the outcome you're after. If you want to stay in office, do nothing because the Senate's not gonna impeach you. Easy for me to say, I'm not the president under pressure, but you know as well as I do, they're not gonna teach you. I said, so you can do nothing if you want to be respected then by American people, by children, by parents. Then I said, I know you're not gonna put yourself You're

a lawyer, You're not gonna put yourself in jail. But you've got to communicate with more clarity about what's really going on and take responsibility for the things that were a mess up. And I had this moment where he said, you're so right, You're so right. So I'm so glad I called you, So I'll call you back. I'm gonna call you back in forty five minutes, and I thought, holy shit, I'd influenced the president move in the right direction, right what I could ser the right direction. And then

his secretary called me about thirty minutes later. He's still with the group, but he wants to know he's focused on it. In about three hours called at a time at four hours later, he was stadding, with all the Democrats, you know, and they're saying, you know, this is all bullshit and we're going to fight this thing. But so I've had some wild rides. I've had a chance to sit down with Mr Gorbachoff, you know, right after you know, he was taken out of office, and spend time and

bring him. I've I've had a ticket to history and it's been an incredible privilege and I've learned so much and I try to take that make it practical for the average person so they can prove their life or you know, the leader that calls when it's time to inter the intervene. Just on the on the President Clinton front. You got to know Hillary Clinton well as well? Have you Trump as well? Yeah, well we'll get to that in a moment. But one of the things I thought

about was Monica Lewinsky. I saw her not long ago in Los Angeles, and I always felt that she had I mean, I was going to say she got the short end of the stick, and then I just realized that I'm sorry that I was searching. I was searching Alec Baldwin and Donald Trump apression so unfairly and I,

you know, and and so villainized, and she was. You know, I have a daughter who's twenty one years old, Tony, and I think about she, Well, you know, she's a kid, she's a college girl, and I felt like she was she made a mistake but also taking advantage of in a very serious way. Did you ever think about her or reaching out to her? Actually, um, I've reached out all the time when something there like I reached out

to Tiger Woods. Actually, probably a dozen people reached out for me to Tiger Woods, but he got in motors like I don't want to help, and he didn't do it. So Um, as far as her, I didn't reach out her directly, but I always let people know that I'm available, and I work with people on both sides of the aisle. I'm an independent personally. I worked with whoever I think is a great leader. Um, but you know she's the kind of person if you know her and want to

invite her. I'm doing an event. I think she's based in l A now is and she years if she wants to come, I'm doing one for ten thousand people in two weeks and she could come as our guests and would blow her mind. I can promise you that. So if she wants, if you want invite her as my guests, will do it. But it's interesting, europe psychology expert, you're clearly really great at leadership coaching, but you never

went to college. There's no formal training for this. You said you've learned from the people with whom you've had these discussions, But what do you think you offer. What is the value add when somebody's sitting across the table from you besides telling them the truth? Well, I'm I've spent forty years now at this stage where I've gotten the call and I got to produce the result. Now, Serena Williams is melting down on national television. What do

I do? She's gone through all these problems turn around right now? Um, you know kid is suicidal. Knock on wood. I've never lost one suicide in forty years out of thousands. So my whole approach has been how do I just really deliver results for people? And what every area it

is to be sports or would be business. And you know, I've been obsessed with finding principles that are the best principles from find like somebody's been together twenty five years and they're still passionate for each other, not just hanging out. They're not lucky. They do things differently than other people. If you're fit and you've stayed fit for thirty years,

you're not lucky. You're doing something different. If you're financially set and you've started with nothing and you've built it that, you're not lucky. You did something different. So I codify what that difference is, but then I put it into a delivery system that's so enjoyable that you love while you're learning, and so as a result, you tend to really apply it because there's more emotion to it. You know, information without emotions not retained. If I said, do you

remember where you were on nine eleven? Everybody in this country, in fact, most countries know where they were when they heard it. They can describe where they were, who was around, and what they saw. But I asked you where you were on eight eleven, you have no clue because information without emotion is not retained. What I do is I put people in states, psychological emotional states where what they learned they feel it, they embed it, they experience it,

and they live it. And because they live it, they get results. And then that's grown my brand and reputation for fourty years. You're also almost telepathic, you know, I watched the documentary, and when you have a huge crowd of people, you can almost you do feel them. You can zero in on the person who really seems to need your help. It's almost like the Long Island medium

was shorter nails. How you do that? How do you do that, well, I'm extremely empathetic and and if you know anything about the human brain, we have these things called mirror neurons, whereas if you're sitting there and you watch somebody going rowing by, and you keep watching them, your brain will actually start to do their rowing in your nervous system, right, And the more empathetic you are,

the more your mirror neurons tend to turn on. So mine are highly developed for forty years to enter someone's world rapidly feel who they are. And then I have so many you know, there's only so many patterns, right, There's there's only so many ways. We're the only creatures on earth that can make ourselves angry with one thought, happy with another, piste off another, excited with another. And so I've studied the system of how the brain works, and so there are not unlimited differences, and so I

know what to do. There's only so many patterns. But I do it different every time because it's more enjoyable. It's like a piece of art when somebody stands up, it's done. I know it's done. Now let's just see how it shows up and be different every time. Now, not to be a bitchy skeptic. But you know, I would say that most of the people who come to your seminars Tony are searching for something, are needing something,

or unhappy in some way, shape or form. Right, And and the one I was describing the documentary was your six day Date with Destiny seminar you've had, you know, you do dozens of them. I mean how many of you done, like eighty of them or seventy nine of them or something, you know, through the course of your career. So isn't it safe to say that anybody in that audience is hurting? Well, no, not necessarily. You'd be surprised. People come from two extremes. They come because they're the

best in the world of what they do. I mean, Pitball is not hurting, you know, and he's you know, I'm constantly interacting in supporting what he's doing. Right, Uh, Hugh Jackman is not hurting. Serena is not hurting. So it's finding what people need and what people who come to see me are hungry. So you're right. Some are hungry because of pain. They had a birthday with a zero, they went through a divorce, their kids have grown up. Um, you know, they have been at the same business for

twenty years. They made million dollars and their board out of their mind. They want something more. Right, someone wants something more, they're gonna come see me. But then there's the whole class of people, which is a huge chunk, which are the best in the world that are looking for they know one little distinction. You know, I'm going this direction. I make a ten degree shift, and you take that in a month and now six and months, and now you have a different destination, different destiny. So

I get people that are hungry. If you're in the lukewarm middle where you're not happy but you're not unhappy enough doingth about it, you're never gonna come see me. But if you're the best in the world, you'll talk to the other best and I'll say Tony did this for me, and you'll call me. Or if you're the best or not the best, but you're really challenged, you're gonna look for answers. And I'm gonna be one of those people eventually, just because I've been in the culture

doing this for forty years. So if I wanted to come you are very expensive. If I wanted to come um and have a one on one session, Brian, I'd like to talk to you about me be getting together with Actually I think I could get together with Tony, but he's too expensive and I'm too cheap. We should talk about this because so you charged a million dollars and they had a percentage of whatever side in their business. Yeah, geez, Louise,

no wonder. You're feeding so many hungry people. You can only coach so many people one on one to give you agree. I used to do. I used to do my Magnificence seven and then I stopped doing it because the demands are just so high and I have to you know, I want to over deliver always, and I just not enough hours in the day. So now I do too, sometimes three at a time max. But Paul Tutor has been one of my clients for twenty four years.

So I four million dollars. Maybe maybe it was more, but he's but he's also made billions and billions of dollars. I mean, several times along the way, I've said, damn, look, policy we're such dear friends. I said, I don't need this for you anymore. I know what you're gonna do. When you're gonna do it, you knew it too, and he looks at me and says, are you kid your my insurance policy? Just know when you're going to show up. I do all this stuff. I knew I should have

dated him in college. Well, we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk to you about leadership and our fearless leader. Or I don't know, is that the right way to describe Donald Trump? These days, we'll hear from Tony Robbins about

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being compared to a Tampa ex commercial. I feel very raspy voice. I think it's important to know the facts about dampons, to use them intelligently, and to know what you're doing. Let me tell you why I like yes, because I speak fifty hours. Is I actually went to a expert at Harvard who's worked with Aarri Smith and all these guys. He's probably the best expert in the country. I'll never get he has his He asked me how when I speak, and I told him. He thought I

was making it up. He goes, no one speaks for twelve hours. No one will sit through with twelve hours. I said, well, now I get ten thousand people at the time to do it. So he Ben puts me under the scope and he literally says, I got the thing down my throat. I can't speak. He's like, no, no. He leaves the room with the thing in my throat and trying to say something. He walks in with three doctors five minutes later and they all stare, no, no,

that's yeah. So if I pull it out, like, what's the no, he goes, your um, you are what he called vocal cords are supposed to be the thickness of your lips. Yours are thinner than this piece of paper. He said, there's no way you should be able to actually speak. It should be impossible for you to speak. But he said, you've done something that my forty years as a medical doctor expert in this aera would say

as impossible science, as impossible. You've wired your voice box, your false voice box to your normal voice box, and that's how you speak. He goes, it's almost that you couldn't speak, and you like willed yourself to speak and somehow the cells connected and gradually created this train that you now can speak. That's all I talk to. Do you ever not talk? I mean, do you ever go for biet periods? She says? Why aren't you talking to me? What's wrong? You're one of those everybody else you're not

talking to me? You probably get sick of it. I'm sure you want to just not like to let your voice rest. And someone dore my wife, she's I tease, are mercilessly? Mercilessly? No, I I'd like to speak when there's something to speak about, and when there's something to speak out. I'm not getting up there to talk for fifty hours because I want to talk for fifty hours

because what I do is conditioning. Right, You hear something once you understand it, you here a couple of times in different ways you might be able to pay it. But if I get you where you're wired to do it now, you get results. I mean, you get results by changing conditioning. You don't get results by just get in a new insight. This was your second wife, your current I was married for fourteen years before that. I've

been married eighteen years on this one. And and so what did you learn from your first marriage, your partner. No one tells you to pick a partner. So she was a great lady, but we had so little in common. It was just chemistry. And then I fell in love with her children. She'd been married twice before me. I was her third husband, and she was thirteen years my senior, twelve years my senior. So I was, if you can imagine, twenty four and instantly had a seventeen year old son

overnight and eleven year old. Oh that's weird. Youre like seven years older than your stepson. He was the Ashton Kutcher of his day. He's fifty and I'm fifty seven. Wow. Yeah, to give an idea, So I grew up very quickly. Um, but I didn't want to lose the kids love. I fell so in love with them. She's a good human being, but you know, she'd be upset all the time that I was stopping to talk to people or help people were not much older than you twelve years yeah. So

but what the beauty is? I end up with all my kids and my second youngest is my part in several of my financial businesses, you know, and so it's a it's a blast at this stage of my life that I got to experience all those stages simultaneously. They made me grow up and they think increased my ability to help other people too. Well, let's let's enough about your marriage. Let's talk about Donald Trump. Can speaking of things that weren't supposed to be possible, like her vocal

cords Trump. So, so, how well do you know Donald Trump? Pretty well enough that he's called me at various times. I gave him his first six speech, I know, not recently, I gave him his first big speech. I think you might call him, well, sure I can, but he's and he's just down the road from here. You don't visit him if I want to. Good because I live in Balm Beach most of the time. A good person of time. But um, you know, he's a very unique creature, as

you well know. And I think that he's been reinforced for what you and I might call bad behavior, at least in communication style. And um, and he's now president Nited States, and those things are not being reinforced. But I think half the country sent him there because government is systemic. You take your time, you think every rude as consequences. He's pragmatic. I want to do this now, right now, and even if make a mistake, then I'll correct the mistake and get it done. But I'm not

gonna take two years to do it. So I think, is that pragmatic or impulsive? Well, you can call it impulsive, but it's also pragmatic to look for an answer. Now. Everyone has a specialty in their brains. Some people are extremely empathetic, right. Empathetic people are always like, if you're in a meeting right now and we say we're gonna do something, they're gonna, hey, wait a second, that will make these people feel this way, and they're always worried

about that. Person is more pragmatic is like, they're gonna feel that way, but if we don't do this, it's gonna go under and everyone's gonna get hurt. This is

what we gotta do right now. The systemic person like, slow down, let's think this through, let's evaluate this, let's take our time, and they might take a couple of years to do what the other person will do wrong in the first week, but the wrong one was the first week will get more done because they do it more often, and they if they correct, they do it more often. I don't know, I feel correct enough or not, but he clearly he's not empathetic. Let's put it that way.

That's not as high as skill set. Thank you, last category. The president of the last category sounds like Barack is exactly right. He totally systemic. I when you're talking at Barack Obama, he's thinking while he's talking, and he's filtering every word. I watched him, you know, get up and have a speech to first graders and he had to

what do you call it, telepropers reading teleproperters? The first graders like, come on, But then you have this other guy who just makes it up as he's standing there. So we've gone from one extreme. Ya, that's what people do in relationship. Right, this didn't work. Let me throw my pendulum to the other side, which also often doesn't

work in some people's minds. But I think um. I had a good conversation with President Clinton last weekend, but I had an even better conversation related to this, specifically a couple of months ago with George W. Bush, and I was asking him. I said, you know, you never attacked Barack Obama. I really respect that about you, and he goes, I'll tell you why Tony goes, I'm not president United States. The people have spoken. I had my eight years, and whether I voted for the person or

not doesn't matter. They're my president. There your president. We got to help them succeed. They don't do it on their own. And he I said, but what do you feel? He goes, well, you know, I wanted my brother to win. He said, he obviously didn't. But he goes this stuff that the world's over because Trump is crazy easy and and saying, he goes, it's so exaggerated, and it's quite quite frankly infantile. He said, let's just be honest. He said,

I used to think this too. When Nixon left office impeached. I thought he destroyed the presidency, destroyed the reputation Americas, stroyed America. He goes, I was dead wrong. He said that was an infantile emotional response. Here's the truth, he said, the office is bigger than the occupant. Many people so nervous, trepidacious, scared out of their mind because we as a culture constantly reinforce fear and create tribalism. It's the news way

in which we live. Since social media plus today we can self fulfill you can you you can just watch MSNBC all day long or Fox all day along and you live in a different universe or Facebook and read fake news. So people today don't want to be interrupted. I mean, in the financial industry, it's one of the biggest mistakes that people is called confirmation bias. You know, you go get everybody confirm what you believe and you go do that. Well, it's a recipe for death. We're

doing that here. We're having a how do we change that? You know? I mean, this is something we've talked about frequently. And my friend Nicole says, people looking for affirmation, not information. And but you know, and there was a piece in the New York Times actually recently about how to get out of your bubble, and people are trying to encourage people to overlap. But I mean, how what's the solution to the first? You go first? You got to see what the problem is. I believe the problem. You can

tell me if you agree and disagree. Um. One of the problems, clearly is that we are not using technology. Technology is now using us. Watch how people where people's level of impatience is today the bami bam on their phone like this, it's not responding, it's going to a satellite. Give it a minute. I mean, my god, whether the hell is the matter with you? And so you're used to in control every moment on the web. So I think it's a combination of technology. And we have tolerated

this as a culture. You get what you tolerate. As an individual, we tolerated. But how do you how do you change it? And the only way it's so far downline now then the way it changes is the way anything changes. Historically, we throw our pendulums until we exhaust that, and sometimes that exhaustion goes for a period of you know, a generation ten or fifteen or twenty years. If you think about the winter seasons historically, I mean, if you grew up in the nineteen thirties and forties, came of

age at that time, you live very differently. Became of age in the fifties, then if he came to change in the sixties and seventies, a totally different generation than the eighties, nineties, two thousands. So I personally believe, and I'm guessing no one knows for sure. I think we're gonna throw our pendulum and we're gonna get exhausted this, like we exhausted anything, and we'll eventually come back. How

long will that take? I don't know. Will President Trump become a CEO who settles down and is able to do that or not. You know, we're six weeks into it. He's been reinforced for the behavior he had his entire life, and he's only for the first time having an interruption to that behavior. So we'll see. Well, regarding President Trump, you said Donald doesn't take coaching. He doesn't want coaching.

I know a lot of Republicans who are really nervous, is scared, even alarmed by some of the actions he's taken as president, the fact that he doesn't know what he doesn't know, and that he has these tweet storms that you know, five thirty in the morning, making all these accusations that have no merit because he's been reading bright bart News come on. And so I think the larger question is can you learn from his mistakes and get bigger and better or he's a smarter person. You

might give him credit for it. He's well trained to be the way he is because he's been rewarded so often. But without the rewards, he's got the ability to learn. The question is will he And I can't answer that question for you, No one can. But I think, um, the more we spend time on his tweets uh and give it so much attention, you just reinforce the behavior. He's going to keep doing it. The more put your fist up. If I go like this, what are you doing?

Why are you pushing back? I didn't tell you to push back? Well, otherwise you're gonna break my arm. He's a very strong guy. Actually, let it go. You'll see it. It's not going to break your arm. More morely, you push on somebody, I just don't put his fist out. And I pushed on it like with my fist, and he's pushing harder and harder. I didn't tell him to push I'm still across from the table from Superman here, and it's very hard not to push back a little bit.

But think about that. It's very hard for him not push back, very hard for the media not to push back. But you're more optimistic than many people. You think that he can grow and get better. But you've said that he doesn't take training or coach at this stage. He's not, But it doesn't mean he won't he's got four years and we're all gonna be with him four years where they like him or not. So do you really want to spend the rest of your life bitching, complaining, whining

about somebody's style of communicating? Um, you know, we have three branches of government. They balance each other out. He's gonna pass some things you don't like. That's called life. He's gonna not pass some things he wants to that you might like. That's life. You know, we're we're living in a world where there's so much whining. It's just like, how about, let's where the issues are real, let's deal with them. But why not? Why has it got to be personal? He used to be in Congress and Clinton

was in office. I would fight like hell on the floor and they go have a beer together. Now the problem is if you talk to it aside, you're evil, you're immoral. This is absurd, this is childlike behavior. But that's expanded to the nation as a whole. And so but but no, I mean not just on Capitol Hill. And we often heard stories of Reagan and Tip O'Neill having a drink together in the Oval office and fighting like hell in the halls of Congress. But what do

you do about such a divided nation? I know this is the top topic a on so many shows, and I think around so many dinner tables all over the country. But these two Americas that are so at each other's throats? Seven, how how do we come together? I mean, I know it's not going to be kumbaya, But at the same time, how do we dissipate this anger and vitriol that's just pulsing through society today? Well it starts with the leaders and the leaders of both parties. Good luck with that.

That's what I'm saying. That's the challenge. But eventually we burn out. Eventually you look at history, whatever it is, will it be anger? You get tired of being anger? It's sadness. You get tired of being sadness. I just have. I'm just saying, why don't we get tired of it? Now? Start to focus. Thanks, let's focus on what we can do instead of we can't. What's the secret to financial well being? If not predicting the future. The secret is

taking control of what you can control. There's many things you can't and it's time to surrender to that and focus on what you can do. Otherwise you're just everybody just whining, and it's like, what is it doing? Is it making anything better? Is it changing it all? No, you're just getting the habit of being piste off all the time or fearful all the time, and a decision made from fear or a decision made from anger is

almost always the wrong decision. If you were coaching President Trump today, what would you tell him your communication style is getting in the way of your substance. There's actually substance to what he's doing in many cases that some people agree. I mean, if you were to say, look in Syria, we cannot vet that these people are who they say they are, so in these cases until we can vet, we're going to do this for them, it

would be a different case. But when you talk about Muslims as if it's a religion that's wrong, um, then the style of communication gets ahold of anything. And the second thing is calling people idiots or going on the internet at three in the morning and attacking everybody who has a different point of view. Makes it impossible to truly govern unless you in control of everything. And why do you think he does that? It's fended so much

time on him and why he does it. He doesn't because you've been conditioned to do it his whole life. He's a real estate guy that worked with very wealthy people. He figured a formula, he used debt, he maximized it and almost went bankrupt and then really scored in a large scale And no matter what he said or did, he got reinforced, including with a TV show for twelve years. So he's been reinforced. Until new reinforcement happens, you won't

see a change. That's how humans work. I want to ask you about leadership, you know, because I think some Americans, I would say a lot of Americans field there's a real dearth of leadership in this country. I would agree. Unfortunately, Why why do you think it's so hard to find people that we trust and believe in and want to be in charge? Well, think about it today. If you and I live in in the world before the internet, and I'm not suggesting to go back of the stupidest

thing in the world. Maybe maybe in the moment, but if you really think about it before, then if you want to attack me, you're gonna pay a consequence. You say something about verbally you do something and it used to be in the media and you're gonna be sued. Today with the Internet, we all want to be significant. There's only two ways to be significant. Take big risks and try to achieve things, and you could fail. And if you fail, you feel like you're worthless. Or tear

everybody else down. Build the tallest building, or tear everybody else down. Well, it's not hard to figure out what the majority of people do. There's no downside of tearing other people down. To the web, there's no consequence. So our web behaviors and our technology conditioning has changed our culture to where we're no longer kind. I mean, obviously there are plenty of kind people, and there are kind communities. But if you asked, is the Internet a kind place?

The answer is what would you say? Absolutely not? Having said that, most of my friends would never ever right the kind of garbage that comes my way. I don't know, Brian, if you get that, but you know that that comes the way of people who maybe disagree with them or who are public figures. So yes, I don't. Also grew up in a different generation, right, my daughters would never do that. I agree that you're you've you're because you

brought a different generation. You have different values, right, look at it. You're raised, so it's a value system. But right now that you can talk about values all you want.

But then people look at this phone a hundred and fifty times a day, that's the average, hundred fifty times day at your outdoor brain, and whenever you're looking there, they're getting a dopamine hit sometimes all this cool friend they are, so they're wired to keep doing this and guess what, like any other addiction, they're here all the time. This is the world I can control, you know, like me? Unfriend you, I'll let you go. We have created it a selfish society where it's all about me, and it's

really not about me. It's about the way I can frame myself with filters and pictures. You can see people getting depressed all the studies on Facebook now, and it's because they're not comparing their life to other people. They're comparing life to other people's fake lives. Right, So I sound old talking to all this crap. No, I I agree with you. Well, I'm older than you are. I mean,

what are practical things? The practical things that we have to do is we've got to train people to enter a world where they live at their best and they're reinforced for it. Let me look, let's be honest. All human beings have a two million year old brain, and that brain is not designed to make you happy. That brain is designed to make you survive. So it's a survival software. So what is it looking for anything that

could hurt me? Well, there's not a saber tooth tiger for you to fight or flight or freeze and hopefully not spot you. Now we place that with what are people thinking about me as if it's life and death? Or do I have enough money? And let's be honest. In this country, if you are in poverty, and you know, I get I need a hundred million people a year. I don't want to in poverty. But if you're in part of the United States, you're not. Is the biggest

bullshit on the planet. You're the one percent of the planet the planet. Three quarters of the planet lives on two dollars and fifty cents a day, nine dollars a year. So we're living in a society where we've lost track. It's gonna balance? Will it balance as fast as you? And I want? No, My job is to educate you. I was there. I had ten thousand people in San Francisco and San Jose the day after the election. San Francisco,

so you know what that was the happy crowd. They were depressed, and I just I went after him and I said, come on, grow up. What the hell are you doing? If you can't take disappointment, and disappointment drives you into this place, how are you gonna deal with your own life? You're focused on Trump because you're not mastering your own life. But I think there are people who are upset about Trump for pretty selfless reasons. Actually, people whose taxes are going to be cut by Trump,

people who are personally going to benefit from Trump. Have said, I don't like the example he sets from my children he's going to make to let's just agree on that. I agree with it. So what are you going to do about it? Well, that's that's the right, but right so I answer my question, what are you gonna do about I don't have an answer that question. Continuing to complain about it isn't changing a thing. We can continue to make ourselves miserable if you like to continue for now,

I'd rather do this. I'd rather say argue with the reality is stupid. Sometimes reality does not reward what you want, So then what should you do? Focus on what you can do and what you can control, because otherwise you're just going to be upsettled. But now I agree, and I think that a lot of people. I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I get too wrapped up in that. I don't think it's whining for journalists to point out these important issues them to the president, but to try

when they're no, that's terrible and it's very unprofessional. And journalists shouldn't be biased in that way. And I think we don't agree on that. Well, not all of them are. A journalist across the table from me is not, I would argue, But jist today, our journalists today, pure reporters, says they once were. Is that pure journalism? Many of them are? I do. I think by and large, journalists tend to be more progressive and and and and and

and care about progressive issues more. I think there's yea they went to college and they had a professor who was liberal, not conservative, because that's who goes and teaches, and so we keep fulfilling that that aspect personally, I think, and I'm not for the agenda President Trump. But I personally think it starts even at the colleges. We need to have more diversity in these colleges. When you look at Berkeley, which is supposed to be the home of free speech, and I don't even see it. I just

have the pictures today. But I remember that idiot from Wright Bart I can't think of his name. I don't support him. But to blow shut up, to create fires, to punch people in the face so that someone can't speak. I don't know how that group of people that supposedly started the free speech movement? Are you not embarrassed by that? I'm embarrassed. I don't know how you call yourself a liberal and opposed the First Amendment and say I'm not. I'm not going to even expose was myself two ideas

with which I disagree. But speaking of powerful ideas, before we let you go, how is that for an awkward segue? We should talk about. That's what I'm trying to talking about. How many books have you written, Tony? What is this now? Five? I guess six, I guess Wow, God, you're you're a busy guy. So this one is unshakable. Your financial freedom playbook, and this is the result of all your conversations with all these financial experts, well not just experts, but every

one of them was a self made millionaire. And then I went Nobel Prize winner that I just brought him people the best on earth. But the reason about this book is I actually had I do an annual event where I bring in, you know, six self made billionaires, some of the best financial people in the world, and I have them work with my biggest donors, you know,

for feeding people. And I a year ago I had the former FED chair Alan greenspan on nineteen years most powerful man and finance for presidents, right, I guess spend five hours and then three hours picking his brain, which is what I do best. I dig in, find it

his psychology and psyche and how things have shifted. And then two hours of one of the audience and the last thing we talked about negative interest rates and you know, I've never seen this in five thousand years of banking history, and what the FEDS are doing, and this really passionate conversation. So I said, okay, you're back made of head FED today you're the chairman of the Fed of again, what's

the first thing you do? And the whole room leaned into here, and he paused, and he paused, and he leaned in, and he went resigned. I would resign. Was like when the Fed chair says he resigned. You know we're in trouble. So look, we're eight years into this bull market. It's the second largest one in history. It doesn't take a genius to figure out there's gonna be a crash. It's not negative. It's just a fact. It

always has been. It's historic. But what I wanted to do is I wanted free people of the fear and show them how to utilize this, both protect themselves and take advantage. Because if you're a baby boomer and you started too late. I know it's counterintuitive, but the next crash is your chance the leap frog from where you are financially to where you want to be. If you're a millennial and you've got all this, you know, debt God forbid from, you know, the college education you've got,

you think you'll never get out of it. The crash is the leveler. It's like if I told you your favorite car was I don't know, Ferrari, and you said to me, I want a Ferrari, And I said, I know a place. You get him fifty percent off, you'll be out of your mind. But when the stock market goes fifty off, people freak out. People have the opposite instinct, which is to buy high and sell low. Buffett what you tell everybody during that time, this is the greatest

opportunity of your life by anything. You can be like others are fearful and fearful when you got it absolutely So what what people don't know? The reason they're not in the market A they think they have no money, And so I show them what to do and how to actually just take a small percentage and grow it because you just don't realize what compounding can do, you know.

I give an example in the Book of a young Man based on a friend of Mine's father convinced him at nineteen that he's gonna take three a month and say but, which sounds like a lot. But once you automated, you don't even think about it just happens. You don't see it. And he did it just till he was twenty nine, right, so nine years. Total amount of money in was like four thousand years, so it's like thirty

five thousand dollars. He left it in the market and the market over the last thirty years, his ground ten point to five. But I showed you even if it only grown at eight percent, even less, he ends up taking that thirty five thousand dollars and never putting another diamond. At sixty five, he's got just under a million dollars. His bet that it doesn't take a lot of money

to be wealthy. It takes time and and consistency. His best friend gets the idea when he finishes to start at twenty nine, and he invests three dollars a month his entire life to sixty five, and he never catches up because it's time. That gives you the advantage. You don't need a lot of money. How many great athletes, how many great movie stars, actresses, actors? Have you seen that made more money than god? And now they're totally broke. I mean, you look at fifty cent. You know he

got a hundred million dollar tip on vitamin water. Maybe I think it was four or million bucks if I remember correctly, And he's bankrupt. He bought Tyson's home and Tyson went bankrupt. Who made a half a billion dollars right now? I don't know if it's true. But I read the other day that What's pirates scabb in Johnny Depp, he made three quarters of a billion dollars seven or fifty million dollars, and they're talking about him going bankrupt right now because he spent thirty thousand a month on

wine and he spent three million dollars. Take Hunter Thompson, burn his body and blow it in a cannon into space. So it's hard to live a nice lifestyle and three quarters of a billion dollars and you've got to economize unless you make money your slave. You're the slave to money. And unless you learn how to make money while you're sleep, it's not gonna happen. And every American can do. And it's not a full time job. It requires you to

get in the game. But you've got to know what the rules are so you don't get taken advantage of because truthfully, uh, the level of the seat that happens in this industry is greater than almost any industry in the world because there just isn't transparency and people use language. It makes people feel like they don't know what they're doing, and so they just give up and then they beat you to death with fees you don't even know you're paying. So this is this book is really for everyone, not

for wealthy people. It's don't know any Now. This is a book designed to show you how you can leap frog where you are where you want to be, and to make sure a you're protected during the next time, but more importantly, that you take advantage of what the next time will provide for you. I mean, I'll give you an example. Why are people afraid you in the market's gonna crash? Well, every day you hear another we broke another record, you know here at the dolls up

another one. Well, if you look over the history of the stock market, on average we break we have a new record once a month. Now, sometimes that happens seven in a week, but that's the average that we've had over time. But here's what's really interesting. Every year we have a correction. It's like, if you're gonna be stressed and you're forty years old and you're gonna live to eighty five, you're gonna have forty five more corrections to go through. You're gonna be stressed the rest of your

freaking life. Remember last January, the worst January in history two point two trillion dollars melted down. But where we end up the year record breaking eighty percent of those corrections. And a correction for those listening is anytime you drop more than ten percent up to twenty from where the peak was, that's called a correction. Of them don't become a crash. They don't become that melt down that everybody's

afraid of at the deepest level. And so you literally you you see fourteen percent dropout, and it bounces right back unless you sell. I always tell people the market never took a dime from anyone you did. Now watch this. What about those big bear markets the last a year, on average, they cost us an average oft if you sell, if you don't sell, and cost you anything. And here's

what people have to know. Every single bear market, every crash in the history of the United States for two centuries plus, has been followed by a bull market that goes crazy. If you remember two thousand and eight, we lost, you know, from peak to trough. Briefly it was really around thirty five for most people, but we went we made six. Starting on March nine, coming up a few days from now, is the anniversary. For the next twelve months I can show that to you every time in

history of the United States. That's why Warren Buffett says, you don't want to bet against the United States the last two centuries, the dumbest bet you could possibly make. You want to be in the market, not sell, and when the market crashes, you want to buy things for a disc Well, in your message, which is a very powerful one and one that I think a lot of people need to hear, is you can't market time. You brought to bear a great stat in the book about

how most of your gains happened during these days. I forget, it's like a dozen days. Let the course of the year, get the hot button. Check this out. So people are trying to time the market. Oh my god, the market's too high. How long have you been hearing that? For eight years? The market's got up two How have we heard that since since Trump got in office? We're up eleven right now? Trump bump. But he isn't gonna correct.

Of course it's gonna correct. It's gonna happen. But here's what you gotta know, Warren Buffett said to me, Tony, those guys on CNBC, those market forecasters, they're only there. He said to make fortune tellers look good because no one can predict the market. But here's what you can predict. There's a study done over the last twenty years by both JP Morgan and by Charles Swamp. They did independently. What they found is, over thirty years, we've done ten

point to eight percent, which is amazing. Over the last twenty years we've done eight point two. But if you missed just ten of the best training days in twenty years, now, what are your chances of knowing which days those are going to be? So you're out because you're thinking is overvalued, whatever the case may be, you're scared. If you missed the top training ten trading days, that's all in twenty years, you move from having an eight percent return where you're

doubling your money every nine years and get wealthy. Of doing that, it drops down to four and a half percent almost in a half. You've missed the top twenty days, you will only make two percent. You might as well have been in bonds. And if you missed the top thirty days one and a half days for twenty years, that's all one half days each year for twenty years, you lose money. See the most dangerous thing is not

getting the market. You've got to be in the market because it's given the highest rates of return for the last two centuries. It has the most volatility, which is why you have to have diversification, like I show you. But it is the opportunity of your lifetime to be in there and be unlike other people and be unshakable. All right, before we go, I feel like guys watching Tony. He's got so much energy. Do you drink a lot of coffee? I don't drink any coffee. What you imagine me,

I'm happy you would be scary. So but you do have some kind of funky personal routine. You you you you you jump into this cold pool every morning when you're at one of your homes plural, that's fifty seven degrees the water um it stimulates. It's done all over the world, but especially in the northern countries to go hot cold stimulate the limp system. The blood flow cleans your system out. But I also do it for another reason, which is, you know, most people don't do what they

need to do. They know what they should do, but they don't do it. You know, they know what to do, but they don't do what they know right. So when I did early on, as I said, I want to train my brain that when I say we're doing this, I'm not negotiating with myself. Well do it tomorrow. So I get in every day for one reason to teach my brain. When I say we do it, we do it, and now it does. If I want to go make the run, I want to do the business thing. There's

no hesitancy in me. There's no negotiation within myself, and that has enormous power. If you want to build things and create things and have an impact with people, you also do breathing exercises I do. I start every day with my first ten minutes. Is a form of meditation, sort of meditation. Like here's what I do. I do a radical change in my body because changing your breathing changes the way the brain works. If you study you know yoga, various esoteric sciences. The breath is like the

string on a kite. The kite is your brain. If you change the breath, you change how the brain becomes engaged. So I do this radical explosive breathing. I do three sets of thirty and that changes my stake of it. I hear what radical explosive breathing, sounds like a little louder than that, harder than that. And I do thirty of them, right, I do thirty paws, thirty pause. Then I spend ten minutes, and I do three minutes where all the focus on our three things. I'm grateful for you.

Now why it sounds man, be pam be gratitude? Who cares? The two emotions that screw us up? And you see them in our society right now are anger and fear. They'll screw up your business, they'll screw up your intimate relationship, they'll screw up your health. And their antidote is gratitude. You can't be grateful and angry simultaneously. It's impossible. So if you cultivate that gratitude, there's no anger there. You

can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously. So by taking three minutes to start every day and bringing that up in my nervous system with real stuff, not positive thinking, I'm so happy and making it up a bunch of affirmations, I think about real situations and I make one really simple, like the wind on my face, my child smile. Because if you only train yourself to respond to big things, then you don't enjoy life. It's kind of like the

astronauts that went to the moon came back. What do you do when your thirty five you went to the moon, you took the presence and the taper talk, you know, the ticker tape parade? What the hell do you do now? And most of them got addicted to drugs and alcohol because they found adventure only in a smile. They didn't find it and excuse me, I'm going to the moon versus a smile. So I do three minutes and I focus on it and I feel it like I'm there,

and it makes my nervous system go. Then I do three minutes of prayer and kind of blessings if you went to my children, my family, my coworkers, my associates and people I meet on the street. And then my last tomorrow I promise I will. But then my last three minutes is kind of my three to three to five to thrive. I think of three things that I really want to accomplished that matter to me, and I see it and feel it is done and kind of celebrate it. And what that does is it sets up

your brain where you're grateful instead of reactionary. You're loving to the people around you and yourself and bussing side, and you're clear what is you really want to make happen, and you're certain it's going to happen. And it takes ten minutes, And honestly, I'll usually go fifteen or twenty because it feels so good. But there's no excuse not to do it, because you know, if you don't have ten minutes, you've got a life. And so that's what I do. That and my jumping in that freezing water

are my Yeah, no, I I use I lymphasize. I use a rebound er. Yeah, it moves your lymp the limp. You know, the heart and the blood is moved by the heart, but the lymph has very little that can move it around other than strong explosive breath, strong breathing and movement exercise. So the lemp is critical. It's the detoxication system of your body. So bouncing out a rebound or allows you to move the limp, but it doesn't when you hit the ground, you don't have the impact.

That's part of them. I don't know about you, Brian, but I'm going to do those three things tomorrow and I don't have a trampoline, but see if to do that either people you're grateful. Is the gratitude thing, which my husband says I should do more, and the prayers and then the intentions. Yeah, the three things you're committed to, right, but seeing it as done failure has done. It's really simplistic. But when you do it every day, it reinforces that. You also just got to think about we all do

what we've trained our nervous system to do. If you bitch all the time, you're gonna bitch all the time. If you're grateful a the the time, you're grateful a time. If you're we all know people that are funny no matter what happens, right, you know, and how do they

do it? They wired themselves to do it. So why not wire yourself for higher emotional states that will affect your family and your businesses and your co workers and associates as opposed to just showing up and hoping you feel good with an environment that if you turn on anything, if this thing is following you, you're probably gonna be unhappy because all I gotta do is open us up and the be Twenty things about Trump and twenty things

about the record show. He is holding his iPhone. I feel like, of what Tony Robbins does, I will be a hugely successful person. That's for damn. I mean, you're amazing. Really, you guys are sweet. Now, we all we all have our gifts, and I'm just clear what my mission is. I think you're clear about yours. And I don't know you well enough to know, but it sounds like you've found a partner here and stil figuring it out Brian,

and Brian is clear as well. That's wonderful. All right, Well, thank you so much for pick up the book, because we're going to feed another hundred million people. That every book will feed fifty people. All the profits are going to Yeah, last time we sold a million copies in hardbackup money Master the Game, so we've had fifty million people. But I'm donating it regardless, even if you don't buy

the book people for yourself. If people are interested in learning more about your charity and about what you do to feed people all over the globe, how do they do that? They can go to feeding America dot org and you can look up to Tony Robbins. Hundred million more they call it because every year we did another hundred million. It's a billion person challenge basically, or you go to my website at Tony Robbins dot com. So

fun to have you Tony Well listeners. That does it for our little summer break our episodes from the vaults. Next week we'll be back with a fresh podcast, hot off the presses. Thanks to our producer, Gianna Palmer, our assistant producer Nora Richie Jared O'Connell who mixes and engineers the show, and a big thank you to my assistant BETHA Mos for all she does to keep my life and your life as well briant together. We all have. Beth. Mark Phillips wrote our theme music. Katie Curic and I

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