Kathryn Hahn on the Marvel madness, her comedy heroines, and getting her juiciest roles post-40

thing I've ever heard? Or maybe you knew all the law given her propensity for all two relatable characters, are you blaming me? No, I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying that we need to take some responsibility for the situation. A lot of women have babies at forty one. I thought I could too. I had a chance to sit down with Catherine recently to talk about all of her new projects. Why at forty seven she is elf Waco

on fire? But also I got to know her a little bit, find out what makes her comedy secret weapon, and understand why we are all so lucky to be living in the Hannaissance. Katherine Han, Congratulations all these great things are happening. We could not be more thrilled for you. It must feel pretty damn good to be like on

fire elf wuego. As my husband would say, I mean, it definitely feels very surreal because I mean, as all of us are, I'm still kind of stuck at home, I don't have social media, so I'm I'm hearing like bits and pieces of what's happening. And I know the show is landed, which I'm thrilled about and um but and I'm just tickled by it. But yeah, it's I mean, yeah bananas and so flattered and also feels so like

another person's life. It feels very very surreal. Well, I want to talk about wand Division because it's such a it's so original, which I think is the best compliment you can give a show these days, because there's so much content out there, Katherine, and to have something, to have such a different twist, and of course, like so many of your roles, it's it's it really puts women front and center, which of course I'm a hundred percent for.

But before we talk about one division, before we talk about sort of career stuff, I thought we'd get to know Katherine Han the woman, the myth, the legend, and I wanted you to tell everyone about growing up in Cleveland being a theater kid. And I'm particularly interested in what sparked your interest in acting, because I love to hear about these ah ha moments where people say, this

is what I want I do. Like I asked Barbara Streissan that once and she said she was in the lobby of her apartment building I believe it was in Brooklyn, and she started singing. She was like, oh my god, you know this sounds incredible. And what was there a moment where something happened you and you said, this is tapping into my passion or was it an evolution? I feel like I'm inside the actor's studio, so I know I love it. Look I mean, I I certainly thank

god Barbara Streis had had that realization. I I think certainly for me it was it felt almost like predetermined. Katie. I was very young. I was at a in a Catholic school in Cleveland, and it was kindergarten, I think, and there was some sort of after school program and

I just felt at completely at home. And I'd always been a kid that would just disappear after school and go deep, pretend deep deep into pretend land, and there was just something about something that felt very safe and something that felt very freeing about those classes, even as a young child. And then I started taking classes at the Cleveland Playhouse, which was just my holiest, holiest place um as a as a kid, and I just would want to loiter there like all afternoon. I just loved

being in those theaters. Just seeing an empty theater with a ghost lamp was just like, to me, the most beautiful thing. And yeah, so to me, it just felt like this inevitability, like I just really didn't even entertain anything else. It was just who I was UM. From as early as I can remember, when you were growing up, Catherine, were there actors that you looked to and thought, I

want to be just like so and so. I mean, growing up, there was definitely some REP that was back like rep companies happened, like each city would have their own kind of company of actors that so the Cleveland play House had this group of actors that I got to see play a bazillion different parts, and so it really admired their careers because they were able to play you know, lear one season's you know, check off the next and I was able to I saw the breath

of their creativity, and that is something that was a real creative turn onto me. And then for me also, I think growing up and going to the art houses there with my mom would always take me to go see art um movies. So for for me, it was like, I mean, I was obsessed with, of course, the the heroines of looking back, the heroines of like the seventies, like the kind of messy I love Terry gar I loved,

of course, Diane Keaton. Gina Rowlands was like the end all be all for me, just kind of the messy, imperfect like not perfect teeth, like messy hair, just the complicated, messy women that rode the line of funny and and sad at the same time. That was all of it. That wasn't just one or the other, and wasn't there just um to fill a role in someone else's story, but brought their whole complexity to a script like that. That was always something that was very interesting to me

growing up. Yeah, you know, I think we're seeing more and more almost a renaissance to overuse the word of those kind of characters kind of complete, flawed, difficult, to categorize is good or bad, just just all those different things. And then you went on to you went onto to Yale drama schools, so you weren't like a classically trained Catherine Han And so how did how did all that theater experience um kind of inform your choice of roles? And and you know, not everyone has that kind of

training in that kind of background. Well, I think you know, I didn't go right after undergrad. There was a couple of years in New York City where I was a receptionist in a hair salon and I was like digging through the backstage trying to find auditions. My husband and I would always laugh about looking at the But I

don't know if you remember this. There was a there was a newspaper called the Backstage for Actors that would always have like auditions in the back and there would always be a section inevitably called no pay nudity, which always made us laugh like, oh, sign us up, like please, I'm gonna wait in line for that audition. But we um, you know, I got there was like a lot of struggling years before and and also Williamstown Theater Festival was

a huge part of my life. But then landing at Yale was more of a It was more of like a kind of I needed a sabbatical myself, albeit in a expensive one, but I needed a place to land just just to be able to do theater for a few years, not thinking that it was going to necessarily be a stepping stone to something else. But I just wanted to. I just didn't want to, like hustle anymore.

Like I just wanted a landing place to be able to like rehearse a play at two in the morning and just be around like minded people, and be around that campus, and and and hold onto the like to the craft, to the art of it that I was so moved by. And I feel like it is so um uh slipping away in a certain respect in a lot of ways, like people can get famous so fast for so many different different reasons, and um hats off for for all of it, and for me being an actor.

A huge part of it has been rejection, and that has I think the reason I'm still here at seven is because I've been able to weather so much of it because the the I know how important the underneath is, which is I am an actor, and I know it comes along with it, and I love my job. I'm sure you wanted to do the work and not just look for the work, which is some time consuming. So

that must have been such a luxury for you. And you know, I was talking to um Kate Winslett and that's a major name drop, but I I've just always really she's a goddess, isn't she. She's just I don't know, you call would love each other. I think, do you know her? We did, we worked together, we did Revolutionary Road and I fell yes, and fell madly in love. Yeah,

she's fabulous. But we were talking about how you have to develop this inner core of confidence being an act er, and if you don't have a strong sense of self and you don't have a strong support system, I think that's why you see so many child actors get totally screwed up. How how difficult that is kind of uh, not only the acceptance, but then worried about like, well how long, how many roles are going to come after this? And how am I going to top this? Or how am I going to equal it? Or how am I

going to keep working? How am I going to pay the bills and all those things? And and you're at the mercy of other peoples and their taste is so subjective and um, you know it just it just must be hard. And so it sounds like your love and your pure you know, devotion to your craft and what you do, Uh, that has helped you stay grounded through kind of the ups and downs that come with this profession. Right well, I mean, and it certainly has taken a

lot of time. And you know, it's not lost on me that like the juiciest chapter has happened post kids, which I never would have anticipated. And I think that's really interesting and something I want to like definitely hammer home for for young women that are interested in young people that are interested in having children. Is that a pleasant surprise to me was that, in fact the opposite happened.

Like you know, you think there's gonna be this invisibility shield and all of a sudden expiration date or that something forty Even Catherine, you always hear like after forty the roles dry up, Yes, they they shrivel up and vanish, and or in fact, did you start to shrink into the background. And I I have found the exact opposite. So I just want to continue to tell young creators and and um actors and actresses that that is. I have actresses in particular that I've found that to be

the exact opposite. And I think it has a lot to do with like a re centering of like your for for me at least it has been, and which I wish somebody had given me this advice, is like a re centering of like your authentic self and like what you are bringing to the table is what makes you, ironically the most is what's going to get you hired and what's gonna get you what's what's gonna what makes you special of course, like not trying to fit into this Hollywood box that you think you need to be

to get to the part of that. You know, I had been so sweaty, sweatily walking into auditions and like scenarios that were just like not mine, just not mine too, that was never gonna be me. And I just didn't know. I didn't trust what I what I personally could bring because I don't think I knew who I was yet at the time, and I just certainly didn't have the confidence.

So it's like a yeah to you. To Kate's point, I guess it's like this we have to have this like weird mix which I've just only real very recently, of this very weird mix of of cockiness and vulnerability that have to like like be hand in hand, which

is a real tricky thing to find. Um and I'm still trying to figure it out, I suppose, But don't you think it also has to do Catherine with sort of the expansion of how women, how we see women, and this idea that you know, the female gaze, and the idea that we do not solely exist for you know, the objectification of of our physicality and uh you know, as a supporting role, but that we're worthy in and

of ourselves. I'm getting very very Germaine greery here, but worthy in and of ourselves to to to to play

the central role in these stories. And and and it doesn't mean, uh, you know, as the cute girl friend end or the female supporting role or whatever, that our stories are are worth telling because they just are, Yes, I mean, And I also think I don't know if if you I mean, I think, yes, a that there are many more of creators and voices and authentic stories that are able to be told because there's clearly an audience of women that are hungry for it, and and

B I don't know. I I have found getting older that it feels almost like the space shuttle like as it's as I'm like zooming off and after I just feel like a shedding of the unnecessary. So it just becomes like clearer and clearer what is what is really the most important? And so I'm finding myself gaining and confidence also something for younger women to look forward to.

It's like the stuff that you think really had really had mattered in terms of like the outside looking in starts to matter less and less and that is so liberating, um, just in all aspects of life, but for this bird, it's in terms of creativity and in terms of like, um, looking for projects and creators. If not, if you know, there had been so much time wasted trying to like gain get the eye of someone that I had really

wanted to work with. And at a certain point it's like, okay, why not just follow the light then, like why not just look towards you want's to work with me like rather than like trying to And then I've been able to find these like juicy juicy collaborations and experiences and and it's been really like a fulfilling, fulfilling chapter. When we come back the role that cracked open Katherine's career,

that's right after this early in your career. I knew you were discovered early on by Tim cran Uh in the series Crossing Toward And I like Hennessy by the way too. I think she's like the wholest, nicest person, isn't she? And um and and but but for a while there, you were cast as the friend, the coworker, you know, the wife, the sassy girlfriend, you know, the kind of woman had a big prosthetic pregnancy chapter as well, and and and was that frustrating for you? How did you?

How did you get through that? And how did you keep from saying, hey, mofos, I I want to be the star. I don't want to be the girl next you know, the woman next door. You know. It was like I, Katie, honestly, at that point, I going to what I had said before, I really didn't think I had the agency or that I had the belief in myself to believe that I could do that. Like I was just trying to put one foot in front of the other and like carve a career and just go

to where the yes was. I mean, I come from the theater. The theater is where I found the most autonomy over my performance because it was like my whole personhood as soon as the curtain came up, that show

was mine. And in terms of the camera, I just didn't feel like an ownership over like my I guess my performance and I felt always kind of felt I guess when I first came to Los Angeles like a less then, like I would look at these like I just maybe I came with such a romantic idea of what it was, but I would just be like, oh, I'm not that. Oh my god, I'm not that. I'm not I thought. I'm like, I just was so um,

I felt like I was playing. I was like pretending to be an actor in a TV show rather than just like settling down into being like I just couldn't believe still that I was. I was a theater actor. So I just didn't never felt like true um and so I didn't. I never felt like it should be me um. But I was always like grateful. But I will say I never felt like satisfied unless there a role Katherine that was really just kind of crack your career open that you thought, Wow, everything kind of started

changing when I played this. There was a couple of times that happened, like I think that there was a summer in which I got to do Stepbrothers and Revolutionary Road with Kate, and that was like a personal kind of shift for me that I was able to be seen in those two wildly different parts in one summer. And then but I do think Afternoon Delight, directed by Joey Soloway, was a turning point because that was my

first lead. It was an independent movie. It was a role that was like very close to the surface for me, and uh, the experience of making it was the kind of movie making that I had I had always dreamt about in terms of that kind of like with a better word right at the tip of my tongue, like a seventies kind of like Cassavetties kind of movie making that just felt like very small, tight, very low budget,

but very performance driven. And that was that was a shift for me, certainly creatively and how I how I felt about myself confidence wise, I think to as well. And you you had you collaborated a lot with with Joey formerly Jill Soloway, Um and I'm curious, what was it about that collaboration that just I mean, it seemed to work because you went on, you played a rabbi and transparent. Of course you started I loved Dick, and um,

did you just feel like, Oh, I've come home. I have a meeting of the minds that I haven't had in a long time. Yes, I mean, I think the closest analogy would be it felt I felt the same way that I felt when I was back in school. It was the same kind of joy of performing, and I felt that kind of autonomy that I felt on stage, but instead it was in front of a camera. So it was like, oh, this is what it could be, Like I don't have to just stand there and try to like do a good job, like it's mine, Like

this part is mine. I'm here because I'm valued, Like it's my job is to be here and listen to this incredible actor in front of me and to just receive that what they're giving me and look into their beautiful eyeballs and like so it just it felt like, um, the kind of play that I hadn't been able to really feel on camera before, and I felt more collaborative.

It felt so collaborative, Like it felt incredibly collaborative. And I also think that they're writing and the writer's room writing was just just kind of um tapped into something that felt very familiar and very unspoken um and very just very true to to the experience of a woman person this age UM that I hadn't read before. And also it was funny and it wasn't a complete down er and like there was all the shades in it that I was um that I was attracted to. That

must be magical, you know. And it was the same group of people, the same um, the same crew, the same so every it just felt like this, It felt like we were a part of circus. Like it just felt I loved those people so dearly, that crew I love so madly, and um, yeah, just became like law

familia for sure. That must make such a difference, like the ambiance of the set in terms of getting the best out of an actor and having feeling you are in a safe space and feeling that you're supported, And I can only imagine how different that must feel being with a group of people that that aren't warm and welcoming and and happy and you know, kind of sending out positive vibes your way when you're doing what you do right well, because especially like I mean I've said

this before, but like I had been on jobs where I've had to simply like you know, smooched my costar who I have love and a door, but like I I felt more uncomfortable because I was like covered in spray tan, had hair extensions, had chicken cutlets, and the thing in my bra like had like the spanks on had Like I just felt like I was like not enough, like I was trying to fit into this box of something and I felt it was just and there's a lot of handwringing behind the monitor and a lot of

like furrowed brows and like something wasn't more king and it just the whole energy was like I just felt so sweaty and and I felt much fun. It is really fun when you just get to work and everyone's with a shield on, with a hot with basically a spray gun at you, Like okay, but I um, yeah, real fun. A lot of contourd makeup, but I um. And then to then walk from that kind of experience is something that's that much more like emotionally physically vulnerable.

Let's say, but has so much more of a of a feeling of like of safety and collaboration, and where I felt much more in con of ownership of who I was playing. Um, just it was a night and day sit tight because we are diving into the very trippy wand division right after this. But let's talk about one division because that is U been the latest chapter

in the Hannaissance and um unexpected chapter. So I mean just like who would have thunk it that after Like we were just talking about like the work with Joey, Like I never would have thought this was in my future. And I'm just so thrilled and tickled. It's just bananas a Marvel TV series. I can see why it is was unexpected for you and and it's such and and I said earlier Catherine, it's so original. And for the uninitiated, can you kind of describe this series? A lot of

people have seen it. It's getting brave reviews, and it's become has a cult following and all that jazz. But for people who haven't, it's, you know, it's hard to describe. So give it a shot. Okay, I'm gonna give it a shot. I think it is if you have watched any of the Marvel films, the thing that would always stick out to me was this little ember of flame between Vision and Wanda. Vision is an android um robot, and Wanda is the Scarlet Witch, although she's not defined

as such until this this show. But they have such a dear love connection in the films, and this just basically takes that relationship and kind of expands it, as it were. Wanda Maximum, the character in the comics, has a very deep and traumatic backstory. Um. This is a show about her handling her grief, told through American sitcoms, which she had used as a coping mechanism growing up. Is there something special about today? Well, I know the apron is a bit much, dear, but I am doing

my best to blend in. No no, no on the calendar. Someone's drawn a little hard quite above today's day. Oh yes, the heart. Well, don't tell me you have forgotten this forgotten a longer. I'm incapable of forget from us. I remember everything that's not an exaggeration. In fact, I'm incapable of exaggeration. Well, then tell me what's so important about

today's date? What was of courtion you forgotten? And you just have to kind of go along for the ride because it is it's kind of it's a little trippy, as they might say, right, and you're like, wait a second. For me, of course, it harkened back to my childhood watching those sitcoms and uh, you know, like it's it's a it's it's a real lift of Bewitched and you're kind of the Gladys Gravitz character, right, Yes, exactly, Wonda. Can I give you a bit of friendly advice? Is

it about the way I'm dressed? Yes, but it's too late for that. Dottie is the key to everything in this town. Country club memberships, parties, school admissions. Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. You get in with Dottie and it'll be smooth sailing from here on out. Just mind your peace and queues and you're gonna do just fine. Or maybe I could just be myself more or less, Wanda, that's good. I think part of the fun is to see how everything unfolds, because it's very confusing. It's a

puzzle box and it's a it's a slow burn at first. Um, but I think that the that your patients will pay off. And I also think just to your point, Katie, to just enjoy the nostalgia of looking at some of these old sitcoms, and if you're a younger person and hasn't seen these old sitcoms, it's kind of amazing to watch

how comedy has evolved, a how culture has evolved. Be um uh just you know, I loved it from an actress point of view, just to see like where women's voices registered from the fifties on, Like, it was so interesting to do a deep dive into that, right, it was so weird, like how high it was and like no one landed sentences, like the women always kept it like it was kind of always a question at the end, like not threatening, and it was like oh god, um. And so it's kind of like a deep dive in

those ways. But then there's also this kind of twilight zone element to the whole thing that keeps you, that keeps this tension happening. Um. And then it's full and m cu um extravaganza at the end, so you know that that's coming um, but the way it unfolds is very very unexpected. It was a really ambitious um and beautiful ambitious pitch by Jack Schaefer. The writer, and I Matt Chackman, the director, and Kevin Fagi, who came up with the idea, and I was just so thrilled to

hear about it. And like I had said before, I couldn't have dreamt of a of a more incredible part to enter this world in. And you know, and I don't think you necessarily think of Marvel TV and female centric in the same in the same sentence, So it

is really departure from what we've come to expect. Yes, And Jack Schaefer, who wrote it, is a woman, and Jack wrote the whole series, and like most of the writer's room were women, and the fact that it is a that was also a huge turn on for me, Katie, is that the right is that it's basically a superhero origin story rooted in feelings and grief and not just like you know, getting hit by a magnet or whatever

and that's how you get yourself. It's like it is actually rooted in processing feeling and that there was being very new and um interesting about that to me. And the fact that it is so women woman centric was also of course very interesting to me. Um And to take the idea of like the domesticity and kind of start to flip it and just to see like where we've come and like all of it historically, like where we find where is our power source? Like where is our Like it's all of it is baked into the

stew of this show for sure. And I was, um, yeah, just tickled, tickled to be a part of it and so happy it landed the way it did. So exciting, it really has. So what is the reaction been getting back to you? Catherine? And uh, I want to want division. I mean, do you think now people are seeing you in a whole new light? Tell me, because that this Marvel universe is just chocolate block full of crazy fans. So what has happened to you? Yeah? I mean my

kids are nicer to me. Um, I when I think, I mean it is like the fan base is really truly amazing. And Lizzie I remember Lizzie and Paul saying, you know, it's a bummer that you don't get to experience the in person thrill of some of these premieres or junkets, because you know, it's very it is a

real thrill. Um because you know, I'm again, I'm just like at home, So I have no real sense of of any of it, but um that surely you're kind of getting I mean fan mail, and you know, obviously people are talking about it, and my frands on TikTok keeps telling me that there's like a gazillion TikTok's which are so sweet to think about, and like, the meme makes me laugh a lot, the hear heartness. Your character even has her own theme song that is like us

top the iTunes chart, What is happening? What is happening, Catherine On? I mean that was written by the loafez is like it that is that was a really crazy week. When I heard that, I was like, you guys are kidding. I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah? Billboards, billboard charts, billboards. I can't even talk, Yeah, the billboards. Were you a Marvel person before this all happened? I mean I was. I watched the Marvel all the the

vendor stuff with my kids. But then when I mean, I was really so moved and thrilled and profoundly affected by Black Panther. I loved it so much. And then then I was so excited by um Captain Marvel, and so excited that um it was led by a woman by Bree And then I was so excited to hear about the slate coming up and how many women and how many incredible filmmakers are involved. Um, so yeah, there's like I'm so excited about this next chapter and there

have and of course because of my children. UM, I knew enough to get into all the Avenger movies, but I definitely needed a rush up before starting this for sure. So are you going to be a part of the this world in the future. What's going on or do you have a special Can we break some news here, Katherine? What if I wish? I have zero idea. No one has said, no one has breathed a word, so I

have no idea. I did find one of my long black nails in a bag, and it made me very nostalgic that I had lost one of my black Agathont nails. I was like, oh, which were hell about my duct tape? But I could Agatha resurface though you think, I mean, they certainly leave it that way. All right, So let's

talk about what you're doing now, Catherine. You are doing, Um, I'm fascinated by this project you're doing, The Shrink next Door, which is based on a podcast which takes place in Southampton with Paul Rudd and Will Ferrell And can what can you tell us about that? Because I think I have a friend who said she lived near the real person when this happened, So can you can you kind of explain what this is all about? And when does it come out? I'm not sure when it comes out.

I know it's Apple and it's um uh written. The show runner is the amazing Georgia Prochette, who did um Uh worked on Veep in succession and she's an incredible, incredible writer. And it's an adaptation like just a based loosely loosely loosely on the podcast called The Shrink next Door and which kind of follows a person's relationship longtime relationship with their therapist uh turned business partner and kind of how they were maybe taken advantage of financially and

emotionally over a very long period of time. And you played the sister of the of the patient, right, play the sister of the patient, who is who they stopped communicating for about thirty years during this relationship that he formed with his uh ex therapist turned business partner. But it sounds like a creepy study and codependency. Is it funny, is it serious? What is it exactly? It rides? Will hopefully ride the line, um ride right on that line

between between the both. Of course it's going to be funny because it's those incredible gentlemen and who are just I humbly think going to be magnificent in it, and um, hopefully it'll be right between because it is really like I mean, just the work I've been able I mostly work with Will in it, and the work I've seen him do already is just heartbreak hotel. So I'm very excited so for the world to see it. I love

him very much, both of them. I'm very excited to see it too, and I think everybody is thrilled for all your success. Wait to see what you do next. And um, just great to talk to you. You know everything. The last time I saw you was was when people used to have parties and you were so generous and sweet to me. I just will never forget it. I was like, oh my god, oh my gosh. Anyway it

was you remember those things I do I do. I don't think I want to go back to wearing heels, but I would like to go back to seeing people. You know, it's almost gonna be weird because are you going to be thinking, oh, this person is kind of breathing on me. Am I going to be okay? Like when you even just talking in normal conversation. I think

it's going to be this big adjustment period. And it's like when you watch TV shows and you're like they're sitting too close or there's too many people at that party. Are you know they're not being careful? What are they doing?

It's so weird that all the time. And then I read I just read this article about like why it's okay to feel super anxiont, super exhausted and a bit anxious after you've had an in person social interaction, and it was basically like a you are taking in as much oxygen, so you're just exhausted because you've got the mask mask on, so you have to shout so it's like more energy. And then see, like, you know, I feel like I'm deaf by the way, because I can

never understand anybody, can under stand anybody. I think I am getting a little deaf. On top of that, I am too and the wrong words are coming out. And also I'm just not used to interactions in person, and so I just feel like I'm like, like everyone's trying to relearn how to be an actual human being. I think, so it's gonna be very whatever parties they are, there should be disclaimers about like how awkward the interactions are

gonna be. I know, you know, it's funny. I did um Allen Show to just talk about a bunch of stuff and you know, Jeopardy and that my cancer work, and like, I couldn't think of words because I was I felt so much pressure being like in person, and I mean I sometimes have like brain farts anyway, but I just was like it was just weird. I I felt sort of on edge being face to face with

somebody I didn't see regularly in talking. Yes, the fact that you have had that experience, I feel so seen, and I feel like so many people are gonna are gonna feel seen hearing that, because I find that all the time. And I'm feeling very reassured because you are so brilliant and the fact that you're having a hard time finding finding words is making you feel a teeny bit better because I couldn't find the word ricotta yesterday.

The ricotta cheese, like it was broad just absolutely gone, Like I think my daughter had to be like Ricotta, Like I literally like was absolutely out of my mind forever. Well, they should reassure everyone listening who is having multiple daily brain farts that, um, it's all. And I should have Sanche goop to talk about what this has done to our brains and our memories. And I think maybe that will help people to Catherine, really great to see you. I I can't wait till one day I can see

you in person. But in the meantime, you know, huge congratulations on everything, and uh, what can I say? We we love you and I you know, we're just so happy and proud happy for you. I'm proud of you. There you go, I got those words right, but the best. I am so flattered to be on this and thank you so much. Catherine Hahn hashtag new favorite person. If you haven't already, you can catch her on Wan Division on Disney Plus. Next Question with Katie Kurik is a

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