¶ Intro / Opening
I think I used to fall into the trap of assuming that eventually I would get to a place where maybe I would just grow by accident .
And I'm realizing in real time , as we're talking about this , that I have this common pattern of getting a really good , big , aligned opportunity and then forgetting how much I had to pour into myself first in order to get that opportunity , and right now I'm working on breaking that cycle .
But if you stop pouring into you , you're the thing that got the opportunity in the first place and it was probably your growth that brought it into your life .
One of the early personal development speakers . His name was Jim Rohn , back in the 80s . There's a speech on YouTube that I frequent and he said you've got to work harder on yourself than you do at your job .
And I think that a lot of times , to Kevin's point , when you get a big opportunity and you start grinding and you start doing it , sometimes you lose sight of the fact that you're working harder on your job than you are on yourself .
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A lot of momentum over here at NLU , a lot of opportunities , a lot of new clients , a lot of things happening , events and group coaching and all sorts of different stuff Leather bound books , many leather bound books and I have found that I tend to fall into a pattern of getting really good opportunities and then really really forgetting about the fact that I have
to pour into myself first . Why are you smiling , sir ?
¶ Sharpening the saw: Small habits matter
Because every now and then , when we do a certain episode , I I go and grab a book from my bookshelf . What have you today ? This is the very first book . So , kev , I looked this up yesterday with brandon . Yeah , I posted on march nope , march 28th of 2021 .
I posted a picture of me in the studio with this book , the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People , and I said our very first Next Level Book Club session is going to be this Saturday , which was April 3rd . So on April 3rd , which is in eight days eight days , seven , eight days is going to be our fourth year of book club .
That's wild , but anyways , the reason I grabbed this book is because in this book , the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People , one of the principles of personal development is sharpen the saw .
I believe that's the last one , right .
Is that the seventh habit ? Let me check .
The seventh one's my favorite . That way you have to read through the entire book . It is Nice job . The only reason I knew that is because I was literally going to suggest doing an episode on those habits and I was looking up all seven of them . Nice 15 minutes before you and I met today .
Habit seven sharpen the saw . In other words , what's the quote where , if I have four hours to chop down a tree , I'm going to spend the ?
first three and a half sharpening the saw seems a little reckless . I do think the ratio is off I I understand the concept kev would just start hammering that you're gonna sharpen you're gonna , you can . You can sharpen it too much . You know you're gonna get to it . You're gonna sharpen it down to a nub .
It's gonna be one of those pencils you just keep sharpening you ever do that , all the way down to the bottom , of course , all the time .
My thought process with this episode was oftentimes our growth does not seem , yes , it's important , but it doesn't seem super important in the micro . So let's say I wake up tomorrow and I have a list of 15 things to do that need to get done tomorrow , quote unquote .
It's easy for me to say , well , I don't have to do mobility today , or I don't have to get my 30 minutes of learning today , it's easy , I'll do it tomorrow . That is one of the traps of self-improvement is there are certain things that don't actually need to be done today . That's one .
And there are certain things that don't seem like they need to be done today but they need to be done every day , and those are . So , as an example , woke up today , did my little morning routine .
I haven't been stretching in the morning because now I have found the research that says stretching the way I was doing it before weight training is dangerous for your muscles , and it's like , okay , I've got to figure out a new freaking morning routine . So I'm all over the place with that .
But I got back from the gym , I was in the office and a client messaged me and said , hey , when are those two YouTube videos going to be done , and I was like today I'll have them to you , today They'll be done , and I cranked out the first one .
¶ The danger of skipping self-care in busy seasons
I think we should go back to the drawing board . We can use the same title , we can use the same stuff , but the story is just , we need to go in a different direction . Yeah , totally agree , kev . I was thinking the same thing . Cool , that thing that was supposed to get done today is now gone , does not exist .
Okay , now I can move on to the next thing . But if you're like me and you fall into the trap of I have 50 things I need to get done today and unfortunately I'm not one of them Taking care of myself isn't one of them .
I'm willing to bet that you can run that for a few days , or you can run it for a week , maybe you can run it for a month , but eventually it's going to catch up to you and you're going to start to resent that big opportunity , because that big opportunity is quite literally taking away from your self-improvement yeah , this is why you can't have too too many
musts .
It's brutal . Let's talk a little bit about where kevin and I are fucking up I made a suggestion .
I would love to do a what went wrong wednesday weekly segment where we literally just talk about what went wrong from the previous Wednesday . Don't know if it's going to happen yet , but it was an idea I had and Alan and I haven't discussed it yet , so now I'm putting him under social pressure .
Let's do one See how it goes . Okay , all right . So where am I effing up ? Jeffing up ? I haven't dreamlined the next level dreamliner right here when ?
when's the last time ? Three weeks this is an unfortunate . Let's take a challenge . I'm going to win , unfortunately . Take a look all
¶ Slipping habits and growth warnings
right .
The last time that I dreamlined was march 9th of 2025 yeah , you got me beat march 9th . Yeah , ooh . Now here's the thing . The Dreamliner is literally set up for your own personal development .
It starts out with gratitude , it starts out with identifying your most important tasks to get done , and then there's a next level lesson in there Little journaling prompt , little question . It's perfect for working on your life as well as in your life , for working on yourself as well as in yourself .
Hell yes .
Yeah , hell yes , hell yes . It's critical , very important , haven't been doing it . It's event season got overwhelmed and this is the problem with success . So we've had a really good Q4 of last year , a really really good q1 . This is the best quarter we've ever had at nlu . So very grateful , stay grateful , stay humble , do not get cocky .
But here's the thing two things that aren't happening that I'm starting to notice aren't happening because at first it's like , ah , no big deal , two , three days , you don't notice ah , no big deal no big deal , no big deal . And then , all of a first , it's like , ah , no big deal , two , three days , you don't notice ?
Ah , no big deal , no big deal , no big deal . And then all of a sudden it's hmm , feeling a little all over the place , feeling a little less aligned . This is the best metaphor . The train is on the tracks and it's going , and then you're like you know what ? Dreamliner ? Nah , all good , two , three , four days . Okay , two , three weeks .
All of a sudden it's like , oh shit , right , you know exactly what I'm talking about . So the two things I'm jeffing Dreamliner , which is journaling , daily journaling , critical you don't know the value of something until you don't do it for three weeks . And then the next one is mobility . I was doing legs the other day .
Oh no , doing a little leg extension , throw out the trick hip , not the hip .
Hip's fine Left knee , ooh , not great , no warm-up . Dumb , dumb man , just dumb , not smart . Unintelligent choices lead to bad outcomes , that is it .
It's hard , though , because it doesn't seem that necessary .
Until you blow your knee out . Well , until you blow your knee out .
But I think the sad thing not really , but the sad
¶ Losing awareness when things are on autopilot
thing is most of us don't ever get to the place where we blow our knee out . It doesn't . It just is a degradation . It just isn't that noticeable . Like I don't notice that I haven't journaled very honestly , like I don't , I don't , I don't emilia said to me recently .
She said have you been dreamlining ? Because she can tell . She can tell when I'm , when when the the train is like , and again I'm my . Again I want to make this very clear . It's not like I'm running amok .
Yeah , yeah , right , but at the end of the day , there's 10 out of 10 aligned allen and there's 9 of the day , there's 10 out of 10 aligned to Alan and there's 9 out of 10 , and there's 8 out of 10 , and there's 7 out of 10 , and it's going in the wrong direction , that's for sure , as we get more overwhelmed .
Same , same and Alan and I have been talking about . After the event and after , I think , of April , we will have a rebuild where we will redesign things , because it's been a minute since we've redesigned things . Nlu 8.0 , rebrand , redesign inside and out , the whole business is going to be redesigned and realigned , but we all need that .
We all need that to some degree . I mean , I think it's really easy to just run on autopilot , especially if certain things are going really well . My fitness is going really well , the business is going really well . There are some things that are going really well that are just kind of on autopilot .
But you lose a lot of the awareness , situational awareness , and the environmental awareness and the self-awareness when that happens . So I don't want to beat the success makes things harder horse to death . Is that what it is ? Beat a dead horse .
Whatever it is .
I love animals . I'm not beating any animals to death . I promise Just an analogy or whatever it is , but I think that this is something I'm super guilty of and it's getting better . I recognize it sooner , but I had a moment today where I was like I gotta start putting me first again . Yeah , Again , not nobody . You can't get ahold of me until noon .
Don't bother calling , don't bother texting . No , not that , but now it's . It's very much reactive and , again , 20 minutes goes a long way . You're gonna have 20 minutes of time to yourself to do a couple of things that I mean . Mean the Dreamliner takes five minutes from me . That five-minute investment is well worth it .
And , honestly , what else am I going to get done ? If we really thought about it , what else is a better use of five minutes than that ? Yeah , I can do some client work in five minutes . I'm not going gonna get that much done .
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¶ Helpful metaphors for staying on track
The other one is you're on a lake , an inner tube and you fall asleep for 10 minutes and all of a sudden you're halfway down the beach or in yeah , insert metaphor here but that's what happens to all of us . We all drift . That's why I love tracking . I was on with a client earlier and I said I need you tracking . That tracking keeps you on track .
I need you to track .
Got to do it . How intentional have you been with tracking Normal ?
Yeah , pretty good on the spreadsheet . But my dreamliner not so well .
I'm talking today I was in there . Yeah , yeah , yeah , but you're are you really going through ? I'm in there every day as well , but a lot of this is drag and drop .
I've been pretty intentional lately . I've been doing the same shit pretty yeah . I've been really quite intentional with my tracker . I've not been intentional with mobility , with my personal development in the morning and with my dreamliner , but my tracker is the best it's ever been actually . Yeah , really good . I have three self-esteem trackers .
I have , I think , nine metrics and I think I have 18 habits and the fact that I even know that , dude , when I don't track , I don't have the certainty necessary to succeed . That's why I texted you earlier . I said because there are certain things I track that require Kevin to track . I'm like , hey man , what's this number ? Is this accurate ?
But why do I track ? Tracking creates certainty . Certainty creates confidence . Confidence creates action . Action creates momentum . Momentum creates results . But but honestly , even having this conversation right now , right now , I can tell I'm tracking too many things .
So after some of the event and all the stuff that we got going on , I'm gonna have to redesign , re-essentialize , reprioritize , re-essentialize whatever word you want to use . But but we're winning really well . We're doing a very good job in business . Growing , the business has been tremendous . We're doing a great job .
¶ Keeping life areas in check
Fitness pretty good for me . I'm in a cut now . I'm definitely hungry . It sucks , but I'm okay and my relationship is probably lagging . So my relationship right now is a seven , my fitness is a eight and the business is a nine . The mission is a nine , seven , seven . My fitness is an eight and the business is a nine .
The mission is a nine , seven , eight , nine . Doing pretty well in those three things but , quite frankly , everything else is not great . I mean , emilia has been doing the food every day . She's been ordering all the groceries . I mean she's doing everything . She's doing the kitty litter , she's doing the pets , she's I mean she's just doing everything .
So I can't keep this up for long . It's going to . I need a redesign desperately and I think it's good for us to talk about this , because I don't want to be a podcaster who pretends that everything's fine all the time .
Well , that's why I want to do the what Went Wrong Wednesday . That's like my thought process behind that was every week there's a time penciled in where we have to talk about what's going wrong . I like that . I think it's important to talk about Now again , do we have to do it every week ?
We're weird like that , where if we're going to do it , if it's not on a cadence , it's just not going to get done . That's the way it works .
It's just the way it works .
Can we do ?
what went right and what went wrong . And what went right and what went wrong .
We always talk about what went right , do we ?
I feel like we're negative Nellies over here talking about where we suck all the time .
I don't know , we'll figure it out . I would like to do something like that , though just from your perspective . Let's do it , man . If we hate it , we'll , can it ? Yeah , yeah .
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It will wreck my day .
Just know that it will wreck my day . Then I'll probably pretend I didn't see it . All right , what's your next level lesson ? Because I know we have a few minutes left here .
This is a shorter episode because Alan and I are we're both having lots of breakthroughs , slash hinging on breakdowns , so every time we meet we talk a lot about like , hey , what are you going through , what are the lessons you're learning , and that eats up a lot of our recording time . There's again to Alan's point .
We're running a very unsustainable train right now , so things will evolve
¶ Growth needs a real plan
as they always evolve .
Keep it on the rails . We're trying my next level lesson is your own personal development , working on yourself . Sometimes it feels like it can't be put first and I know there are seasons when it can't . I understand that . I remember when we first moved into this new house it definitely couldn't be me first . When we first got a new pet , tiger Lily .
It couldn't be me first that kind of thing when we first started growing the team 18-person team , blah , blah , blah . But you can only get away with not putting your own personal development first for so long before things start to go off the rails .
Mine would be have a plan for it . Have a plan where , when I get overwhelmed , or when I get a new opportunity , or when I'm going off the rails , I have an off the rails plan , because that's better than no plan . Even to your point , alan , I still have a morning routine . It's just not as good as it was a few months ago .
I still wake up , I still go to the gym , I still drink enough water , I'm getting more sleep than I've ever gotten . There are things that are going really well , but there are certain things that I just am noticing that need a little bit of extra work . And again , this is a pattern that I've had in the past , for sure .
So now I just catch it quicker and I'm not coming to Alan saying I don't know , man , I'm super unfulfilled , I don't know what the hell's going on . Now it's like , oh okay , my morning routine and my self-improvement and my own personal development were locked in . Now they're kind of secondary .
It's okay for them to be secondary for a little bit , but that cannot be the normal , because the second that becomes the normal , everything gets all jiffed . Agreed . You dig Very much , yeah , cool beans . All right , next Level Nation If you are looking to grow as a person , as a podcaster and as a business owner .
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¶ Outro
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