¶ Intro / Opening
Next level nation . Welcome back to another episode of next level university , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode episode number 1630 the importance of understanding your feedback language .
Today , for episode number 1631 , emily is going to win and here's why we have a client over at next level podcast solutions and Many of our clients we produce their shows . We have other clients , we produce their shows and we do their social media and we have some clients that I just do Coaching with . So we'll meet once a month .
We'll meet every other week , we'll meet as needed and just catch up , and Emily is either every other week or once a month , depending on what's going on , and I saw her on my calendar for Wednesday or Tuesday , whatever it was , and I always get so excited when I'm talking to her Because Emily is going to win For sure .
She wins it almost everything she does , and there's there's Hidden lessons underneath that that you might not get to see if you didn't get to coach this person , if you didn't get to Ask questions to this person . So here's why Alan asked me . He said why is Emily gonna win ? What is it about Emily ? And I said she .
Every single time we come , she has a list of questions . So every time , every single time we show up on zoom together , she has a list of questions and she just hammers them off . All right , kev , first question is blink , and then we just hammer through questions . It's the hour goes by so fast , it's amazing .
This is what I boiled it down to , if I could just put it into one sentence . She is humble enough to ask , she is secure enough to receive the answer and she is confident enough To know . When she knows there are some questions , she'll ask me and I'll say Emily , you know the answer to that , don't ? You ? Don't have to ask me that .
You know the answer to that , you're good , don't worry about that , that's not . You're good , you're on the right track , you're good .
There are other questions that she'll Feel like she has no answer to and I'll give her a new answer she has no answer to and I'll give her a new distinction , or I'll give her a new Olive branch and she's humble enough to say , wow , that's really helpful . I'm gonna do that .
But it always comes from a place of humility , of I'm here to learn and I'm willing to ask questions that might ?
¶ Humble, Secure, Confident, Consistent
I might know the answer to . I just want a different perspective . And then she's really good at taking action . She's really good at Taking the top five things she learned , turning them into action items and then between now and the next time we see each other , she'll go work on those action items . It's almost like we never talk about the same stuff .
Every coaching call is kind of like an episode where there's overlap , but we almost never talk about it . We'll , we'll flash back to it , like I remember we talked about that last time , but it's never . We don't use more than five minutes for something we talked about About five weeks ago , and I think that's a really important thing .
She takes the knowledge whatever we're learning , whatever I'm teaching her for lack of better phrasing , becomes a new Foundation that she can build something on . And then between the time we just spoke and next time , she built something and she now she has another floor on her building .
So the next time we talk we're not building from the floor we were at before , we're building on the next floor , because between the last time we talked and now she's worked on the on the building for lack of better phrasing . And I think that's how you get momentum .
New awareness becomes a new opportunity , new opportunity becomes New strategy , a new strategy becomes a new action and then a new action creates a new opportunity , and then just rinse and repeat that for as long as humanly possible . She's also very consistent . She's very , very consistent human being as well .
Those are the things that really boiled down for me humble enough to ask , secure enough to receive the answer , confident enough to know what she really knows , and consistent enough to take action on a regular basis , where she's always kind of speeding up . She's always on the outer edge of . This is what I know , this is what I can handle .
She's always right there . Maybe a good analogy , for it would be by the time her and I meet next , it's almost like she'll be quote unquote out of fuel and she just needs a refuel and then she's off to the races again . It's kind of that . And again , if we didn't meet , she's still crush what she's crushing .
But just as an analogy , it's like a pit stop . It's like a pit stop . Yes , the movie for Alan's Pit Stop Coaching . Okay , got to kind of ring to it Alan's . Well , alan's , we'll do it . You do it For you . I don't know , I bet you would , you came up with Okay .
Well , in a race you do a pit stop , change the tires or whatever , I don't know .
¶ Awareness loop
You do In some races , yeah .
That's what coaching can be like . And if you don't do a pit stop you know cars better than I do what would happen ?
Many bad things would happen . You'd run out of fuel , your tires would and again , I don't know much about racing , but yeah , not good things your tires would blow up , you'd run out of gas , your car might overheat , you might fall asleep , whatever . It's a good analogy , who knows ?
I think it's a good analogy because the thing is she's going to win , with or without me .
But not as fast .
It's not that I'm not as fast and yes , yes , but I don't want to make it seem like I'm the reason she's going to win . If you noticed I wasn't in there . It will help , it can help amplify , but I think these are some characteristics . These are some characteristics that you probably find across a bunch of people that are doing really well .
It's that balance of the humility to say , hey , I'd love to ask you a question , with the comfort and certainty and security in yourself to receive the answer , even if it's something different than you expected . Then the ability just to take feedback and then turn that into action . I'll never forget this was one of the wildest times .
We didn't give a speech , we did a Q&A , a live Q&A on stage . Evan Carmichael was the headliner of that event . We went to Toronto , we interviewed Evan and then we said , hey , can you come speak at this event we're co-hosting ?
That night we went to dinner with everybody from the event and Evan was like , hey , you guys , your YouTube channel kind of blows . You need to do your thumbnails , you need to do all this stuff . That night I told Alan , I said we need to do the thumbnails tonight . He's like Evan's not going to remember . I said Evan's going to remember . I know he is .
I'm like Evan , he's going to remember and he's going to ask us tomorrow when we see him and we're not going to have him done . He's going to shame us , not really .
We didn't end up doing it .
The first question he asked the next day was how the thumbnails go . I said shit , didn't do them .
That was back when I didn't know the difference . I didn't understand to this extent the difference between you and I and the difference between the types of people in the world .
I didn't understand .
I guess I'm saying you know so much , I didn't understand Evan back then .
Well , we didn't know what we were .
He's a extremely present , action oriented tactician .
Which I definitely resonated with at the time because I was doing all the stuff . For me , it was like he gave us a cheat code . We didn't do it . What he was looking at was I gave you the action and you didn't take it . That's all he saw . I gave you the action and you didn't take it , which is one of the things we're talking about here .
How quickly can you implement it ?
Yeah , I was used to coaches and mentors that were much more philosophical , long term thinkers who . We've had one mentor who said that doesn't even matter , thumbnails don't even matter , don't worry about thumbnails , that's not the issue . Thumbnail is very technical of thumbnails . Change this title , do this . You need kind of both .
I never realized that you do need both . You need a deeper understanding . You do . Of course , if you don't understand how podcasting works and what a through line is and how to create a story arc , get it Okay . I think the deeper understanding is the why and then the how is the tactical stuff . But to your original point .
She's coming to you with questions , you're giving her answers , she's going off and Accelerating her growth and I want to make this clear , of course , because I always want to go to deeper understanding . You open this episode . Kev with Emily , is gonna win .
I think we should define what winning actually means in this context , because I Don't want to geek out about game theory , but Winning is a word that I don't think resonates with people Fully , because what does that even mean ? Because you can win one basketball game , but does that mean you're a winner ? And , and Just to be brief about the game theory thing
¶ Deeper understanding
, there's infinite games and finite games . So Kevin and I , creating a podcast that brings holistic self-improvement to a multitude , that's kind of an infinite game that never really ends . It's a mountain you climb that has no top , but this episode is a finite game within that . So did we win in this episode ? I Mean that's the philosophical discussion .
So what is winning mean in this context ?
accomplishing , accomplishing the short-term and mid-term goals that will help her accomplish her long-term goals , is what I would say . Yeah , it's . It's Aligning the reality with what her goals are in terms of metrics and number of lessons and number of dollars made . It's , it's you . I'm sure you've had these calls before , but maybe not . I don't know .
I don't want to assume , but I said you're way ahead . We went and looked . I said there's a I mean there's a chance that you're on the top charts in Podcast land . She said what do you mean ? I said you might be on the Apple's top charts and she said no , there's no way . And I went she's in
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, I don't know , number 80 or something . Yes , you have a top 100 podcast . Right now , as this moment , this very moment you and I are speaking , you were on the charts and somebody can go find you . Yes , you're ahead of where you think you are . You're ahead , believe it or not ? Nice . So if anything , can we talk about why I think her gonna win ?
underneath it . I know you you already did , but what are the ? First and foremost , growth mindset . Here for all the listeners , these are character traits that anyone can work on . I Don't think anyone can fully change themselves and I think it's a duality .
I don't think the duality is I can change Skills , I can change character traits , I can change habits , I can change parts of me . But I Do also agree that all of us are kind of who we are simultaneously . That's a whole another episode . But In the context of this conversation , kev , she's gonna win .
Aka , she's going to achieve the goals she wants to achieve . What character traits ? What skills Like ? Why ? Because
¶ Strategic goal alignment
this is a discussion I always want to have , because it's so obvious . I always say Emilia will win at everything . No matter what she does , she finds a way to succeed . But there's a reason for that . It's not like she's just born gifted , although I do think she's also gifted .
And so how do we , how do we eliminate the gifted part of the equation and help people with the part that they can also ?
implement . I think that's the trillion dollar question . The first thing that popped into my mind is she's very self-reliant . And then I had an analogy that popped into my again . It's always a risk because I don't know how it's going to come out .
There are some people that if I said I have an egg that I need you to protect for a week just a week I'm going to give you an egg and it's your job to protect the egg . There are some people I wouldn't trust to do that . The egg would end up broken for sure . It's just . You're not that
¶ Developing traits
responsible . It's not going to be a focus . You're not really that committed . There's other people that I would give it to and not . If I gave you an egg , I wouldn't be worried it would get broken . I know it would be fine 100% of the time .
I would practice this journey .
I know you really , you really wouldn't , it would be safe . Okay . Then there's people who not only would I trust them with the egg , but I also know they'd find a way to improve the egg between the time I saw them and the time I saw them next . And then there's probably just layers and layers .
Eventually there's somebody who , if the egg was to hatch when I wasn't around , they'd find a way to make sure everything was fine .
I think those are the type of people that ultimately get the level of success , because it's not you don't need someone else , but it's a very good compliment to work with someone , because they allow you to accelerate faster but not move . You're already going to move without them , but you can accelerate faster with them .
That the ability to build momentum in your own land and then use other opportunities , other avenues , other people , other perspectives to speed up the acceleration of that . Whatever that is . And then the I do have to go here in a minute because I have a call .
The other question underneath that is how did she become the type of person who not only can protect the egg but also improve the egg , and when the egg hatches , she also creates a litter of chickens and then has
¶ Egg-ceptional collaborators
more eggs and then sells the eggs . This is a great analogy , great . It's not a great analogy , it's a decent analogy . Sorry , how dare you I need to be truthful . It was a decent analogy . The point is , the point is how did she become the type of person who is like that ? And what is the people that you would never trust with the egg ?
What do they do Like ? How do they become like her if they want to be successful ? That's the constant question , and I know some of them won't . I know some people won't . It is what it is . Are some people naturally irresponsible ? I don't know .
I don't know either . The other hard , the hardest part about it is it's a unique . It's in a unique piece of time where , if we were having this conversation eight years ago , I would be the person you wouldn't give the egg to . Well , that's my point .
But now I'm how do we make help people become the type of person who people give eggs to ?
You train , you train on your own to make sure you get food for ages , that you grow your egg and then hopefully , eventually , when someone gives you an opportunity , their egg is smaller than yours , so it's easier to do that .
If I can lift , if I can hold the weight of what we're doing , and then somebody comes to me and says , hey , can you help me with blank , it's like , yeah , of course I can . That's not that hard compared to yeah , I did that five years ago , and when I did it five years ago it was the hardest thing .
But now I'm five years later and it's not that big of a deal anymore .
Yeah , it's like the best player in the field . You trust them to take the winning shot because they've they've proven it Over time . Yeah how do you become the guy or the girl that people want to pass the ball to when , when the game's on the line ?
And that's , I think , a great question to constantly be contemplating , because One of the struggles I have go quick , quick . I know we got to go Business coaching . I I can protect the egg and I can grow the egg and I can flourish , but but it doesn't look like it as much because this industry is very different than other businesses .
And so how do you become the type of person that builds Self-reliance and self-trust ? But other people start to trust too , because they know that everything wins in your corner . That's the way I would describe Emilia . Everyone in her corner wins . Her clients are all just flourishing . Whenever a client she's got a new raise , it's this whole thing , it's awesome .
One of the one of the companies that she coaches , the company pays for the person personal development and they emailed her saying , whatever you're doing , just keep it up , because this , this person , this team member , is just crushing it . New office , all this amazing stuff .
So everyone in Emilia's corner wins and I think it's because she just facilitates that type of responsibility and growth and everybody . But it's also uncomfortable to be around her Because of the constant feedback which goes to episode that we did yesterday . Yeah , it's .
There's again . We can do a part two on it at some point . There's a lot of stuff , but that really is the best . I think that's the best example . It's just very self-reliant . If you know it , you do it . If you don't know it , you figure out how to do it and then you do it , and then you just rinse and repeat that forever .
That , I think that would be it in the simplest form . Okay , I gotta
¶ Reliable game-changer
go , because I have a coaching call in one minute tomorrow for episode number 1632 . I don't know what we're doing because I didn't have time to come up with a topic . It's gonna be fire , though Maybe the best episode you've ever heard could be the worst episode you've ever heard .
As always , we love you , we appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of you and an NLU . We don't have fans , we have family . We will talk to you all tomorrow protect the egg next of a nation . I'm gonna find a way to turn that into the best analogy ever of all time .