¶ Celebrating Achievements and Overcoming Self-Doubt
If you can imagine somebody else giving the same exact speech that you just gave and saying that was really good , it's you problem . if you don't like it , it's an inner thing .
I am proud of how far we've come as men . I'm not that proud of you know , our listens this year . I'm honestly not . I mean I don't . It's not that I think it's bad , it's not that I'm ungrateful , it's that I know we're capable of more . I know that I haven't done a very good job at marketing or social media . I haven't .
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Welcome to Next Level University , Next Level Nation . Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University , where we teach you how to level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . We hope you enjoyed our latest episode . It was a very hyper-conscious episode . Episode number 1355 . Changing your reality is easier than you think .
Happy Saturday today for episode number 1356 . A simple way to start valuing yourself more Somebody I I don't know if I would say I'm friends with somebody I know on social media . What are you smiling about , man ? I'm moving my mic arm again . You're moving your mic arm For those , so shout out to Jerry-Ann who said sometimes that's distracting .
I have ordered us new mic arms , Very high quality , Should be silent .
I'm excited . I'm excited Coming on Sunday .
They're supposedly Supposedly So . Next week , next Tuesday's episode , we should have new mic arms .
When Wednesday , right Tuesday , I think Tuesday Okay .
No , no , yeah , It should be Wednesday , but I don't know . We're going to find out . Okay , i somebody I follow on social media . I follow this person upon social media is where I follow them .
They are a podcaster and they just crossed 150 episodes on their podcast and they just crossed 10,000 downloads And they did this post where they said I almost didn't celebrate this . I didn't feel like 10,000 downloads was enough and I didn't feel like , in the sea of podcasts , that 150 episodes was that meaningful .
And then I thought to myself , if a client of mine had accomplished what I just did , how would I treat them versus how would I treat myself and how am I treating myself right now ? And I think that is a really , really , really good perspective shift because it kind of takes out any lack of self-worth or lack of self-belief we have in ourselves .
If , if , okay , i think of it this way , if I accomplish something and I don't feel like I deserve to be recognized for it , i'm not going to celebrate myself . But if Alan accomplishes something , i'm not thinking about myself .
It kind of goes back to the episode about being self-conscious versus others conscious if you're kind of hacking that to give yourself the credit that you actually deserve . And I just wonder , if you're watching or listening , if that would be something beneficial to practice .
Because a couple of things One , if you're a heart-driven human being , you probably enjoy complimenting other people . Two , unfortunately , many of us struggle to own our wins because we've been convinced that that makes us arrogant or that makes us insert negative connotation here .
And when you're giving that love to somebody else , it's probably an easier way for you to hack it for yourself .
I'm trying to think of where to go with this . I do know that I tend to celebrate other people more than myself , and I'm trying to figure out if there is actual utility in that .
I think , your belief lends to the fact that you don't really need to celebrate that much .
As much As much . Yeah , i think it's not , like celebration is not beneficial . So I'm still always contemplating whether or not I should more , and we talked about this on the Goals versus Gratitude episode .
Are you focused on what you've already achieved or are you focused on what you're going to achieve and finding five in the drive to five around that whole concept ? What I would say is I think that when we celebrate other people , we're looking from a filter of wow , that's really impressive for them , that's really cool .
I guess you're probably better to ask this question As someone who has 1,356 episodes . Do you feel the same way , celebrating us at 150 , as that person ?
Like retroactively .
Yeah .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , because we've had clients cross 100 or whatever it is , and I'm super big into celebrating them Because I understand how statistically rare that is What about when you crossed 150 ?
Did we celebrate that to the extent that you would celebrate someone else ?
Probably not , because for a long time , i think , i adopted your celebration patterns .
Or lack thereof , yeah , or lack thereof .
Yeah . So for a long time It was just like , okay , cool onto the next one , okay , cool onto the next one . And now I'm very much that way . Like I said , the next one for me will be 1500 , then it'll probably be 1750 , then it'll be 2000 , like .
Those are the ones I kind of celebrate now , but that's based on the fact that we've had a lot of celebrations , or perceived celebrations , up until this point . It's such an interesting perspective though I made . On Wednesday Pop pop up came over . If you know , pop up , that is my father-in-law . We tell the cats pop-ups coming over and they're all about it .
The one human pop up , the one human that fudge likes . That is a stranger Everybody else who's ever come over fudge is terrified of . He loves pop up , loves him , the cutest thing in the world . Why he came ? why ? Why Calm energy . Probably Cats know , animals know , animals know .
So he was coming over and Taran said hey , i got dinner , can you cook us turkey burgers ? And I was like I give it a shot . You know , i will give it a shot . Get pizza on the line in case , because this could go horribly wrong . And I made turkey burgers and they looked terrible . I mean , it looked bad . You know they were not the sexiest .
There was going to be no commercials of these . They were not sexy looking burgers . But bull taran and pop pop said damn , these are really , really , really good . And I Probably wouldn't have given myself credit for cooking really good burgers until I heard somebody else say it about them . That's the interesting thing .
Okay , do , let's say , taran was cooking them .
Of course would she ?
Okay , she would have crushed it . She would have done better than you fair , Definitely Yeah definitely Okay . Would she have celebrated Herself as much as you ?
Yeah , yeah . Oh , she would , okay , she's good , she's good at that , she's . She's good at that , she's better at that not better at that than I , because it's not a competition but I just think I'm used to just like . What happens usually for me Is we do a lot of stuff . I start to feel Something .
I'm not disconnected , but I start to feel like I haven't checked in with myself in a minute , mm-hmm . Then I'll go watch something like an old episode of us and I'm like , wow , we really sucked back then . We're the best , this is amazing .
And then I celebrate myself and then You'll get some sort of message from me of , like dude , this whole thing is so weird man . The last five years have been wild .
In that kind . I think that's kind of me Yeah .
Yeah , I think that's kind of me Figuring out in real time . I don't know . I'm kind of like retroactively getting the good emotions that I think I missed out on . That makes sense .
I think there's a there's something that I want to share here . I was on book club . Shout out to Bonnie Bonnie What's happening if you're listening .
Hello .
Bonnie's on book club and we were talking about Feeling good in the moment , and maybe we do an episode at some point on this . I'm not sure , but I want to bring this concept to the listeners because I think it's relevant . Feeling good in the moment , physiologically , so like how do you feel right ?
now Zero to ten . my my back hurts probably like a seven , okay seven .
Cool , so not terrible , but not like over the moon , right . No all right now metacognitively and I'll explain How do you feel about Kevin ? So what I mean by that is , metacognition is just a fancy scientific term for thinking about yourself as a whole rather than Feeling how you feel in the moment . So you feel seven in the moment .
What do you feel about Kevin as a whole ? when you think about Kevin ?
My skill in one to ten . Yeah , like a nine . Okay , i love him .
That's what I'm saying . Okay , i would be willing to bet and I could be wrong , but I don't think I am . When you were in feel-good land back in pre-hyperconscious Kevin not into self-improvement days you probably felt 10 in the moment , but metacognitively you probably didn't feel very good about yourself .
Yeah , that's probably fair . I'd say that's accurate .
Okay , And you made a joke one time of like . of course I would want to smoke weed and play video games . That feels good in the moment , but it doesn't feel good metacognitively if you do it too much .
Yeah , yeah .
And I think that that's kind of a good frame for everyone to look from , because it's almost like it's very hard to spend your whole life feeling good in the moment and feeling good in the metacognitive sense , whereas if you do hard things , they don't feel good and they never will , by the way . So just get over that , right .
Like no one's going to love kale I always say that because it's just not real And if it is , they learn to love it somehow and biologically they still love donuts and McDonald's . Like , of course , i can't get over that . I know it's like well , i can learn to love kale as much as McDonald's . I don't know , i don't know if that's true .
So anyways , that's my own thing . But if you do hard things , which you need to do to grow , then you're not going to feel good in the moment , but at least you will feel good when you think about yourself . You talked to me earlier , kev , about the rocking chair , 88 year old Kevin . Like what would 88 year old Kevin tell Kevin now ?
And 88 year old Kevin , essentially in this metacognition , said keep it up , you're on the path keep it up . Okay , that's feeling good about you .
That's alignment Right which you're calling Interesting , because when I had those thoughts I felt like garbage , garbage , yeah it's , i'm definitely hinging on . I won't say burnout , because I'm not , but I just I'm very , very , very tired and I need to come up for air for sure . So I think that's one of the reasons I was even having that .
It was I was getting ready to drift off . Tara and I had just finished snuggling and I was getting ready to drift off . And you know how sometimes you like when you're right on the edge of dreaming you're like in a weird state . That's where I was when I had that .
Yeah , very cool , And that there's a certain brainwave . We're not going to get into it , but there's alpha beta right before Delta sleep and all that . Okay , Bringing it back to this episode , you go .
I just think it's a good . It's a good reframe . If you were to think of anything I always talk about speaking , because I know it's one of the biggest fears If you , if you can imagine somebody else giving the same exact speech that you just gave and saying that was really good . It's a you problem if you don't like it , it's an inner thing .
If you , if you and I , were to listen to this podcast , this episode , and say , wow , that was like . Imagine two people doing that episode . Not you Like . That was a really valuable episode , but I might say this episode sucks .
But I think it's because your standards are higher . I would agree That's actually constructive .
But it wasn't always , Oh it wasn't always .
Hey , kevin , kim here Just wanted to send you a video to say thank you so much for your help on creating the Peaceful Productivity podcast . You know I couldn't have done it without you . I knew you'd be lots of great help with the technical aspects of getting the podcast going , but you went well above and beyond that .
You helped me with the strategy and you gave me all kinds of really great support . You know , i think the key to success in business is a great attitude , and you have that in spades . You really walk the walk . So thanks again , take care , i'll talk to you soon .
¶ Maximizing Potential and Constructive Celebration
I want to tell this story briefly . Tell it Do you remember ? Hey , hey , tell it , I'm going to do that . I'm going to do that . I remember there was two people who gave a speech And I'm going to tell this anonymously , although everyone's going to know what I'm talking about . Okay , let's use this example .
So Emilia and Taryn both came on the podcast one time . Do you remember that ? Okay , emilia had planned on being a world-class speaker . Okay , and Taryn doesn't . So Taryn , after the speech , was really thrilled about her performance And that's awesome , and she should be . I called Emilia and I was like babe , how are you doing ? And she's like not good .
I'm like , i know , that's why I'm calling you like seriously , like are you okay ? Like , are we good ? I said zero to 10 . How do you think that went ? And she's like oh my God , i suck like maybe a four . Objectively , in the audience , anyone could have looked at Taryn and Emilia and said they did comparable effort . They did . They did both a good job .
But the perception is based on the standard . So if Taryn isn't trying to be a world class speaker , she can say I'm glad I did it . I did it , it went better than I thought . Awesome , and Emilia has to go and pick it apart because she has to go get better , and so I think that that's kind of what I want to bring to .
This is what is the right amount of celebration for you that is constructive . And the last piece for me , kev , you go back and look at old stuff , i think to celebrate from the holistic metacognitive place of like Kevin as a whole . Look how far I've come . I am proud of how far we've come as men . I'm not that proud of you know , our listens this year .
I'm honestly not . I mean , i don't . It's not that I think it's bad , it's not that I'm ungrateful , it's that I know we're capable of more . I know that I haven't done a very good job at marketing or social media . I haven't . I can't pretend that I have . I know that I haven't done a good job .
So I think that that's why the celebration thing messes with me is because I think it's all predicated on standards , goals , beliefs , identity , and I don't know what the most optimal amount of celebration is . But I do know that me celebrating someone who's brand new in fitness , going to the gym for a full week straight , is amazing .
But I'm not going to do that with myself because I hold a different standard . But me in the beginning , a week straight , i would have celebrated the hell out of that of like I'm doing it . I'm actually doing it , you know .
I wonder if it is . It a balance of effort and competence , like the amount of effort you're putting in , based on your ability to put in effort .
One . Emilia shared this with me recently , which I thought was fascinating . I'll go quick with this . but I said how much are you maximizing your potential ? And she said I'll never be able to actually say 100% . And I said I know same And she . so we did this . we named some names because we learned from people that we both know .
And she named a name that we both know And I said how much is he maximizing his potential ? She said , ah , probably 60% . And I was like , yeah , i came up with the same number , I think about 60% . Okay , this other person that we both know how much is she maximizing her potential ? And she was like 30 maybe , and I was like , i know , right , like 30 .
Okay , but this is my favorite thing in the whole world . I'm going to share this briefly . I had a past partner who my favorite part about her was that she maximized her potential . She was less capable in many ways than other people , but she still did way more with it .
And one of my favorite parts about you , kev , seriously , is that you came from an environment that most people wouldn't have been able to create what you've created . To me , that matters more than someone who had every opportunity , and I'm thinking of two people .
Right now , just in my consciousness , there's one person I'm thinking of I'll keep it anonymous who honestly had a great childhood , is brilliant , brilliant , but he's lazy . He's not maximizing his potential . To an extent , that bothers me . Okay , now , that's also . My purpose is helping people maximize their potential . It's supposed to frustrate me .
You are so much closer to your true potential than he is . It's not even close . And so , to me , that's what I celebrate .
I try to celebrate people who are doing all they can with all they have , and I'm actually more proud of the people we impact Kev than I am of my own performance , if that makes sense , and I think that that's what I try to celebrate most , and that's why I have that folder of all the testimonials and all the people that have reached out saying that we've
changed their life . I want this podcast to actually change people's lives . I care more about that than I do whether or not we have a paid speech next week , you know .
Yeah , and what I think . for me , the thing I understand is I try to . I want to celebrate the effort because the effort's harder than the result . usually , in a way Right , i'm way more likely to celebrate 150 episodes than 10,000 downloads just because the downloads are great , but the 150 episodes means you showed up every single time for 150 times . Yeah .
It's a good distinction .
Yeah , that's worth celebrating . That's worth celebrating , for sure . The 10,000 is too , but the 10,000 is just a result of what you did 150 times .
I know someone who has 10 times that with four episodes Right . So I think effort . I think effort makes sense to celebrate more than results . I do , i agree with you . I think results matter too , of course , but I think effort and maximizing one's own unique potential .
I know some people who are doing amazing things with very little And I know some people who are doing almost nothing with very much . And to me , the people who do a lot with very little I have such reverence for .
¶ Celebrating Effort and Results
Well , think about it this way If you don't celebrate your effort and you don't celebrate your results , when do you celebrate ? Great point ? you can't really , because it's very clear that this , this person in this example , didn't celebrate the effort , because if they celebrated the effort , it wouldn't have been so hard for them to celebrate the results .
I don't think it was almost the way they and it was a very nicely written post The way they approached it was almost like I didn't even think about celebrating . It was almost like , oh cool , this is the thing , whatever . On to the next thing .
Yeah , so the reason I wanted to do this episode and I think it's valuable for the audience is because I know so many of the people we've talked to celebrate or struggle to identify wins , not even celebrate them . Identify them first , and If you're not giving yourself credit for the effort you're putting in , you're not celebrating that .
If you're not giving yourself credit for the results you've created based on the effort you're putting in , you're not celebrating that . I think you need the good chemicals , you need the feel-goods To say like , wow , i'm doing something really positive , you're awesome . It's especially if it's , if it's more than you expected , if you made it further than you think .
I think that's one of the reasons I try to celebrate . It's usually further than I Then I expected to get , so it's almost like I need to celebrate this because I didn't . I never expected to be here .
Yeah , the amount of celebration . I don't think you should feel bad . If you feel intuitively and you're out there listening you feel intuitively that you should be celebrating more , then you should , and I think maybe you're reluctant because you're afraid to seem arrogant or whatever .
But if you're out there and you feel like , honestly , i don't know if Celebrating is what I really feel in my soul , i don't know if I feel proud of myself in this instance , then own that too and do better .
I think you know it's like for you , kev , it's not like you're okay , you've been working out , crushing it lately but you're not like pumped About your physique , and the reason why is because you know you're capable of more and you know you've been letting it ride .
So have I , you know , and I think I'm proud of us for getting a hold of that and then our progress since , really , the ownership we've had around that .
But I think this is you unique to each individual , and I think that one thing that I've found fascinating is a lot of people think I don't celebrate enough , but I wonder if I wonder if they're Putting themselves in my shoes and saying if I accomplished that I would be pumped , and I Wonder if that's an accurate way to do that , because so , for example , i
have a friend who's way stronger than I am , probably stronger than I'll ever be . If I was him , i'd be pumped about squatting for 15 , but for him that's not even anything to celebrate , in a way , you know . I mean So it's almost not even constructive from a growth frame For me to . But if he saw you do it he would be celebrating .
But that's because it's a big deal for me , right and it should be a big deal for me . And the analogy here as weird as it is , is it ? you know , if the all-star player scores 10 points , the crowd's not gonna go nuts , but if a bench player does , it's like whoa , like where'd you come from ?
awesome , and I think that there's something to be said for that . You know , it's not like Leonardo DiCaprio is gonna have like a great performance and everyone's gonna be like , oh my god , i'm so shocked . Let's celebrate , you know , cuz .
And that's the whole heavy lies , the crown thing , for lack of better phrasing , and I don't want to get into the crown stuff . But very last piece , i promise identity process goals . Which one do you celebrate most ? the identity is the metacognitive I'm proud of . Kevin , i think you do celebrate that . I know I do . That's the one that I hold on to .
Who I became as a man is the one I'm holding on to like , and I need that too , because when we don't get the results which is often You , regardless of effort I need that one . So for me , that's what I hold my self-esteem to is who I am as a man , and That way no one can touch that because it's my own actions , right .
So identity , process , effort , celebrate effort and then results when you get results . If you're only celebrating results , you're in a lot of trouble because now the external world is Is dictating your own self-esteem .
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Hmm .
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