Episode 94: Star Wars - Fashion

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I don't have kids, but who I'm looking at right now? I totally remember that we forgot to get introductions. We just started off that's okay. I also don't have kids. I have two for babies and they're like my kids, but they don't get me sick obviously. What kind of babies there? There are two dogs their rescues and they're white fluffy, I don't know. They're Hoodle mixes rescues and who are other voice? Iffy? Yeah, our man, Tino? What is you only see you as Tino Stark? What is

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I think I think it is hilarious where the piece the person finally gets in there like oh nope, and then they just peace out when they see the annount because all student loans are awful. Yeah, that's what's funny is I feel like there are some places that are asking for way too much security, Like when I want like my Starbucks gift card and it's like you need to use a special character. I was like, no, let me put dog if I want. This is a Starbucks

gift card. Relax, these pictures have pigeons. And the other catch us stuff is especially if you're trying to figure out your passwords and you're having to keep do it. How many more traffic lights do I need to click on these boxes before they take me to the next step. The technology is listening. I know now they're now they're going to create Okay, wait, we're we have to hop over what we're speaking about this week, just because we have a really long episode that we're bringing you all.

But I did want to say that I got hooked into the circle and I hate it because everybody was like, you have to watch the show, and I'm like, no, I hate reality TV. I'm not a Big Brother person. And then I watched the first episode and I'm like, oh my god, shoot me, that's who I'm voting for. Okay, do you like it? Yes? What is the Okay? So let me let me explain it to you. So it's just like Big Brother, but they're kind of like an apartment, it's like in a hotel, and they can't see each other.

So it's they're all operating like online. So you can pick your profile picture and some people lie because you're not gonna be seen, right, So you could be the hot girl or you could be whatever, you could be whoever you want to be on there. So, but can they hook up and like meat, Well not unless you

get kicked off. So here's the thing. If you get voted out because and and the way that they like get a connection is you can DM each other, you can group chats, you can make an alliance and only add like three people, but you can't see you can't see the other person. Um. And so if you get kicked out, like you're you're the least popular or whatever, um, you can visit one player before you leave. Then you

can go into their room. Well I'm not going to tell you anything as far as physical, but you can go into someone's room and see if they are who they say they are, oh my gosh, or if you just like, we're talking to this dude that you like, have been talking to for weeks and you go in and you see that it's actually like an old woman or something that's not something that happened, but that I'm

just giving you, which no one after this. Yeah, okay, I'm blocked cat fishing, so locked in, but also just so fascinating to me that like it reminds me of when I was on AIM and I would be in like the Backstreet Boy chat room or like the DBZ chat room and like making friends and I had an Internet boyfriend and all of that. So it is funny that like final question, can you change your profile picture? Yes? Oh yeah, but if you do, people know that you

lied and you're like yeah. But also also it's fascinating watching you'll we'll have to talk about this. It's fascinating watching which which pictures they choose, because some people are themselves and they're just like, oh, this picture of me on the beach in a bikini, and I'm like, it's just their thought process is like people will love this, and it's like no, some people actually will be like f her, Like you know, she's full of herself, you know.

So it's just like interesting, what all the guys and all the girls what they think everyone wants, which is just hot people. And in reality, a lot of times people just want, like someone that's real. What should they find out? Um, we're talking about Star Wars. Yeah, something that's not real. But speaking whoa what? But speaking of looks,

we're talking about the fashion of Star Wars. So I guess to kick the conversation off, are there any like standout looks or pieces in the Star Wars movies that you are just in love with? And I gotta say before we get started, Um, I started. I picked up Battle Front and two again because everyone's like it's good now and they and this the last Jedi scene where they're in that cool planet with the white sand and

the red dirt. You you you essentially play that battle and it looks so gorgeous, and I remember thinking it was gorgeous, like watching and I was like, oh man, I got to experience. So that being said, what's like a piece or you know, for me, I would have to say, it's actually imperial uniforms. Yeah, totally. You know, they're the bad guys. Nobody wants to like them, but they do look clean. Yeah, it was pressed. They know what they're doing. They did even when they're incompetent, they

still look good. They look good, vader o. God that I had to agree for like a minimalist standpoint, the imperials is so pleasing to the eye. And for my pick, I'm going to go with something that's a little bit more girly and uh where I'm gonna go with the Padma Almadela. I called this um, I don't like sand dress when she was rolling around again. It's like a color not not with the drift. This is like a

cold shoulder and it's a long Maxi gown. It goes on from like a pale yellow to a pink and it kind of looks like it is exactly that one. Is exactly that one. It looks kind of angelic. Yeah, and that's what I look like about. It looks kind of Roman if I remember correctly, that's the one she wore when they were at the lake house and naboo, it's the Yeah, it's the lake dress, but I also like to call it, I don't like sand dress. Yeah, so where he says that to her, So it's all bred.

It starts with like a and color that fades to pink,

that fades to purple, is off the shoulder. And yeah, while we're already talking about her, I do remember out of one thing, you know, there's lots of thoughts about the you know, prequel trilogy, I will say the one thing that stand out as being like a strong like thing produced by that trilogy was Queen Amidala's looks like just that kind of like obviously Semi Geisha inspired one line down the lip like that still to this day, I think is it was one of probably the standout

looks in Star Wars. And I remember, and I remember it clearly because I remember my step sister had the Barbie doll because they had the Barbie dolls for where they had all the different outfits that they had, and she had the pad May she had that one in a third one, and I remember my dad kept telling her not to open it to like just like leaving in. But like I remember she just was like, play with this, Yeah,

we're supposed to do Yeah, I know, that's I remember. Um. There was when I think Star Wars came back out. They were they were talking about like the toys, because you know, as we talked about in our in our toy episode, we're talking about how Star Wars kind of brought on those new sized action figures like that was because of the Star Wars one. So obviously they're worth a lot of money. And my dad he was watching

it and he looks at me. He was like, I bought all those toys for you and you just played with them. And I was like, yeah, that's just started crying. That's that's what you do with toys. Dad, Like, oh, man, probably, I don't know, like mint condition inside the box. Unlike my princess died beanie baby. Oddly enough, do you want to know? The most expensive beanie babies are the ones with defects. If if you have defect beanie babies, those go for tons of money. But like any other like

regular beanie babies. Nothing. I just donated a bunch of beanie babies too. I think that holds true too for the Star Wars actually figures themselves. There's some yode out there with one green eye and one blue eye and it's worth a ton. Yah. That's crazy. The this Google resorts of results are very different. It looks like you can get one for sixteen dollars and another one for so you know, dealer's choice. M Can you guess what my favorite costume is? I have tweeted about it a

little bit the last couple of months. Okay, um, okay, okay, I'm gonna get some hits. I'm I'm gonna get some get some hints. Um is it a female? Male? Character? Male? Okay? All right, okay, UM, I can't say what one of my tweets is because this is an rated E for everyone. Of course, of course you wouldn't be able to read

one of your tweets on it. Um who Okay if it's no no no no no no no no, it because because because I because I know there's one tweet or one joke you reference, But then I feel like it's not the on. I don't think it's on because his outfits are basic. Um wow, I think I know, I think I think I know who. Okay, let's see if I get the character, and then if I get the character out to the guests, Is it Lando? No? Okay, then my next guest, who have I literally been lusting

about NonStop? No? Really? No? Okay, good that we're wasting people's time. Dude, the Mandalorian. I know it's so. I know we were thinking movies, but I said, the last couple of months, yeah, oh my gosh, that nobody has

more swagger and the most uncomfortable fit. It's like watching Michael Keaton in that rubber Batman suit but yet so fine his outfit, especially because they keep like with each If you all been watching The Mandalorian, I'm sure like with each new you know, piece of metal, he gets like it's just even more his insignias, and it's just hot. He's hot. He's hot. I want to know the logistics because he can't take it off. But I'm sure that

he's adult. That's even wilders heck, and I'm going to change the subject before I get in trouble, but we're gonna look forward to tweet. I want to know the logistics. I'm sure he's consummated his adulthood at at many moments. Yeah, that's fine, that was fine. Landos is very cool, though, and did you see that was uncut? Ems was the picture of Adam Sandler and he was basically wearing the same thing, and Billy d Williams tweeted it out. He

was like, yeah, who would better fun? Um? Yeah there there's also like the kind of difference of the New Orlando that Glover was in where it looks like he's wearing this loosened tie and that look that one that looks slaps. Oh. I did want to say because Wendy was was whispering, po damn written at me. Um, but look at this note that I have from September and that's all it says. Can you say that on err or yea, yeah you can say damn Ran. It's like a tweet and that's all it says is Poe damn Ran.

It's so true though, he just got continuously hotter in every new movie. Yeah, this is what the show is, which is also the the videos of him and uh no, no, no, it's who voices Pedro. Yeah, him and Paige Row like the interview they did together, well, no, they did an interview together and then they would like dip in too, like saying things in Spanish, and I was like like that like just that that that energy. I was like that, I love that where you're just like, yo, we're just

browing out. And I was like, I watch a whole show like you give give them Jeff Gold Blue Show and let them go around experiencing things. Yeah, you heard me. First, bring me in s E P. If you do a check.

I guess the first thing we'll talk about is a New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, which were the Academy Award winning costumes from the original Star Wars and The Empire strikes Back, and those were crafted by John Molo uh Molo Moloo Molo, John Molo and the legendary designer who also did the costumes for Alien in nineteen eighty Gandhi Chaplain and Event Horizon. So you know, I know that Event Horizon movie is horrifying. I've seen it

once and I've never watching it again. Oh man, I think I vaguely remember it, but now it's like I gotta go back and watch it. Yeah. Sure. Eli was tweeting about, um, what is it fire in the sky which is terrified? Just that one scene. The rest of

it's okay, but y'all know the scene the eye y'all know. Um. Yeah, So, actually, throughout Molo's legendary career, he wrote several books on costuming which documented the differences in military uniforms throughout history, including the Crimea War, the American Revolutionary War, in the Seven Years War. And he brought all of this knowledge and designed to Star Wars, which you can definitely see, like we were talking about and the Stormtroopers. The Stormtroopers are

clean as heck. I love their outfit. Definitely a lot of military experience and it's conveyed through that, I know. And it's very funny because we had Carbonion last week and he was kind of talking about this was off, Mike, but like how like now in the Star Wars universe, there's people who keep records of these things and so if like someone was to go, what does that button on that suit does? Someone has to figure that out. So that's really cool to know that not only is

a great design, but also there's functionality to it too. Indeed. Yeah, so in the collaboration with his brother Boris, with illustrator Malcolm McGregor, Molow's research into war uniforms made him a sought after expert among Hollywood elites. Like Stanley Kubrick. Molo worked on Barry Lyndon, where he helped to make sure the costumes were period accurate. So when Lucas came around talking about Star Wars, Molo was ready as a blank slate when it came to designing these sci fi costumes.

He was ready to stop consulting and began designing. And Molo took the job and began constructing several pieces. Uh. And so he's quoted saying, I don't want the audience to notice any of the costumes. I just want to see light versus dark. That's what Lucas told Molo. So the aim was to make Lucas's fantasy universe appear authentic. So Molo considered that his total ignorance of science fiction was advantageous in achieving this. Yeah, I guess we should

talk a little bit about the light and dark. I mean, that's totally accurate. And it's very like even if I weren't a Star Wars fan, Like just looking at the poster, you could immediately tell, like when I think even of Darth Vader, Kylo wren as opposed to Luke and Leia, like the white contrasted with the I just find that really fast and like I said, angelic, because a lot of the a lot of like Leia Pad may even luke to some extent, like the fabric, Yes who has,

it's always like a softer edge. There's a lot more texture, whereas opposed to when you look at the Imperials, it's always sharp, very you know, sharp corners, very smooth and shiny, like they have no room before error. That's kind of what they want. Very militant, kind of like what we

talked about. And the masks are always menacing that there's very specific shapes to these masks that you look at it you're like, I don't want to mess with that, you know, you don't want to approach them, right, And then when you look at the Resistance or the Rebel Alliance, they're always very rag tag earth tones, you know what I mean. So they're more grounded within the world that they live in. Yeah, And I know, And there's something to like having the dark be so white and bright,

especially I think in the earlier moves there. I feel like there's something to that to where like the grunts, the like ponds are very white bright. And then as you move up the ranks, it's just dark, dark to the top guide Luke, Darth Vader being just all black, almost like a spectrum. Yeah, yeah, that's that's so true. Yeah, as you get further within the Imperial the darker you get.

We have to take a really quick break and then we're going to hop back actually into the origins of Darth Vader's helmet right after this, and we're bat we're talking about the costumes and fashion of Star Wars, and uh, we were kind of during the break just talking about how dope Darth Vader's helmet is and like the lore behind it. But you know, I know that you knew

quite a bit about it. Being from a background of making props and costumes myself, I find that stuff kind of fascinating because it's a collaboration of form and functionality as well as esthetics. I remember reading when Ralph mccorin originally designed Vader's helmet. The idea was that he was going to be coming onto the Rebel ship and it was just going to basically be an e v a suit helmet and he was going to take it off, and that was the only part where we're going to

ever see that so radical different departure. I wonder what. I guess they just found it more than like the actor underneath it, Like they just found it more terrifying to have his helmet stay on the entire time. Definitely, because what you can't see is always scary, right, because it's it's not fear, and it's it's emotionless. So you're talking to that person that's under the mask, and you're like, what are they thinking right now? I'm getting nothing, but

I'm it's petrified. Plus, you got to imagine, back in ninety seven, no one knew anything about this universe. So here's this guy all cloaked in black with his helmet. Is even a human? Is he a robot? We didn't know these things back then. Well, what about you were saying that it was a samurai inspired which I totally forgot about. It was a lot of Ralph mccorn's work were notes from lucas uh Uh samurai inspired, as well as Japanese culture in general, you know, clerical robes and

things of that nature. Yeah, so, uh, it looks here. This is from force material dot com, where they actually have an entire article on the origin of Darth Vader, the look and and here they say that, Uh, for Vader, they dressed a model in a black motorcycle suit, a Nazi helmet, a gas mask, and amongst cloak they found in the costumer's middle ages department. And honestly, it does like I'm looking at their helmets that is like, looks

just like Vader's helmet. Um. And then I think there was another thing where they were going to They had the eyes open and decided to cover the eyes, which I also think is smart, like you were saying, Wendy, for emotional purposes. It's like you can't see the person's eyes. It's almost scarier. It's almost scarier because then you can't connect with them at all, you know, then they're like inhuman. Yeah,

that's actually scarier to me. Those are always the type of Okay, so I love horror as if he knows, and I love all of the horror um, Halloween horror nights. Those never scare me. But the thing that I don't like is anything that's inhuman because you can't reason with it. Like zombies for some reason, they get me because it's just like you can't reason anyways, They're just gonna come to eat your brain. Yeah, And I also do like

that with Vader. They added on I was talking about texture earlier, and we're talking about how they also, you know, kind of used a little bit of that Moto Cross motorcycle jacket and kind of a texture. So see it from I think it's like a jumpsuit that he wears amongst everything else. And you have this like very sleek leather like material that has long white stitches, so it's not really white stitches, but stitches going down the arms all the way down to the pants or to defeat.

And it's just I love seeing that. You know, it's not one tone, it's all black, but there it's three D and essentially, yeah, definitely there's a lot of textas and a lot of layers going on. I just love the idea that he like takes off, he gets angry and storms off on a motorcycle, just has like guns and roses, gay and it's Kate just like behind him. Iconic.

Another thing that they're mentioned in this article is also that Lucas has been really vocal about his love for Laurence of Arabia, so likely that those are the sort of ropes he had in mind. And I'm looking at is still shot from it, and it does. It has like the satchel and the like, like the robes and whatnot, also protective in the desert, you know, for the desert temperatures that a lot of the other characters are in.

Do you mean if we talk a little bit about a concept that I've been playing with, it's what I call the desert dweller versus hero concept, And that's the idea that again, this stuff is all brand new. You see Obi Wan for the first time, and he's got all these robes on, there's nothing to separate from him from being just some random desert dweller and him actually wearing Jedi robes like nobody knew and even at the time they were filming, I'm not even entirely sure they

were like, yes, that's what Jedi wear. Yeah, I know. That is so interesting because yeah, when you think about it, you know, we talked about like the current trilogy that's that's going that just ended, I guess, and that there's so much I guess, you know, meet behind it, where there's so much lore behind it that that they they're more likely trying to pay off, where like the stuff we're talking about now is the at the very big getting you know, where we can imagine that beyond this

original trilogy. They thought it wasn't going any further so it can be more encapsulated. So yeah, it was when they were kind of figuring out, what are these the foundations of the lore that we know now. I forgot to bring up I was going to bring up my favorite costume designer who's not connected to this franchise, but it is Ruthie Carter and she was a costume designer for A Black Panther. She also did Dolomite. Um I

think that's up for an Academy Awards for Costume Design. Yeah. Actually, I think that might have been a snub let me double from her for her. I know that the movie was snubbed, and so we were talking about um Me and Demi on stream the the Knobs, and I remember us being mad saying that Dolomite. Oh, you're right. I don't think she would at all. Well, because it says here Academy Award for Best Costume Design. So she's been nominated three times. One was for Malcolm X, one is

for Amistade, and one was for A Black Panther. So it doesn't say Dolomite. She won for Black Panther. I believe she Yeah, yeah, Dolomite should have definitely been on there, especially based on the ones that are that are listed, and not necessarily you know, a dish to the ones that were listed. It's just that the costumes in Dolomite, you know, just to continue this shout out, we're so is stand out that it's very weird that it's, you know,

not listed snubbed snub city. Circling back to Molo, who again worked on a lot of these original costumes instead of working with George Lucas, he said, quote, unlike period films, where there are limits to what is historically correct, there are none in science fiction, and the director can ask for any outlandish thing he wants, with the cost being

his main handicap. George wasn't like that. He strongly believed that the costumes should be real clothes, and that if they were noticed too much, they would distract the attention of the audience. There's something it was kind of like, like what when I think of regular clothes, I think of Han Solo. Yes, like someone could wear that in Hollywood.

That's how I caught like, he's the He's the original Disney bounder, Like just low key, low, low cost cause play that do you have a belt and a vest and a white shirt and you're good done, go go off. They just kind of did the same thing with po Dameron in later episodes, especially in the latest one in Rise and where they he straight up looked like Nathan

Drake and I embraced it fully. Yeah. So another thing about Molo's he had to work on a budget of ninety thousand, which actually isn't a lot for when you think of how many people need to be costumed, and had just fourteen weeks to prepare the material for shooting. Working on a piece of science fiction in the mid nineteen seventies, a time when the dominant genre was gritty contemporary real is um for the raise the pressure for

the film to be successful. Um. I was actually listening to an episode of Mystery Show where they were talking about the lunch boxes that were such a huge thing back in the day. There was was about Welcome Back Carter. It's a great episode, go listen to it, but they were talking about how that brand had passed up on doing a Star Wars lunchbox because they just thought like it wasn't gonna sell, and then we all know what happened. But it is fascinating that it's such a big thing

for us. But originally it was such a risk and people are like, I don't know if this is going to pay off. If you're looking in stars, this War of Stars, if you look at the last two years of science fiction films that pre date Star Wars, it's mostly these gritty, environmental cautionary tales that are set in

contemporary times, like nothing nowhere near what Star Wars was. Yeah, So one of the things is, uh, you know, the budget that they had for a huge sci fi movie at the time was only nine dollars, so they had to cut corners somehow, and Molo had to find a lot of ways to do this. For example, Luke's white pants or some author raged jeans that the costume department just bleached. And George Lucas envisioned the Jedi master Obi Wancanobi has like an unlikely combination of a monk in

Samurai Warrior. Once again with those Samurai influences. Uh, he looks to me, he looks just like Jesus, I'm not kidding with like the robe and all of it. Jesus was the first samurai. Wow, open your third eye. Eye, that's what they don't want you to know. So you know, take that trick well, I mean a lot of of course, a lot of it is is inspired by religion or like a commentary on that as well, like the Light side, the Dark Side, the costumes, the Savior, Moti flying of course,

I want to talk about that real quick too. That's interesting because you know, um, like they were saying, um Molo picked at the outfit a little more bulk gear and heavier drake, but they kind of went with the slightly warned earth tones. And I think a lot of the Jedi were a lot of earth tones. And it's funny because we often talk about light and dark, light and dark, but the Jedi is balanced, so they're not necessarily fully you know, of course they're the opposite of

Seth because they're light. But I think, you know, the earth tones is a nice way to add a subtlety to it. Instead of being like the good guys were white and the guys were black, They're like, okay, we'll add some earth tones, and that that kind of creative thinking, I think really does make for some really good design. I always felt too that the Jedi, like in Universe, the Jedi dressed like that because they wanted to be seen as common man. Yeah you know yeah. Um So,

moving on to one of my favorite costumes, Chewbacca. Um So, two sources reportedly inspired han solo sidekick. One would be Lucas's own Alaskan malamute and mattig ask Our Lemur's the actor Peter May who was ultimately in cased in and Gora wool and yak hair that sounds sounds hot, Oh my gosh, the one at the guy at or a woman at um Disneyland. Also, how tall are you? I mean, are they on stilts? They got there? They're a little bit.

They are. They're on a little bit of like a little lift, but they I think you still have to be tall to begin with. Yeah, Like, I couldn't play Chewbaca at the park if I wanted to. You wouldn't play Chewbac. You'd be a friend of chewba ex cast member things. So that's that if you didn't know, if you have a friend who like quote unquote plays a princess, you don't ask a princess if they play a princess, you ask if they're a friend, so like you say, oh,

are you a friend of Ariel? And she's like, yes, I am a friend of Ariel if she is Ariel. Because they don't want to break the magic because there in the park that when you're out, even even off site, like if you're like, if you're at a bar and you bump into one, they'll say they're a friend of unless you know, there are a few drinks in. Yeah, if there are a few drinks in and they're like, they drop it. Yeah, Disney is all about keeping them yeah.

Um but yeah, but but to go the tangent that I was gonna do is so the the actual to to be friends of princesses. It's actually a pretty intense regimen, one that they kind of were called out for because they use a like a outline like you have to have the shape of a face, you have to have like like so it's very like you just it isn't isn't like how good are you? Like know, how much do you look like this cartoon character? And you have to be tall like for the lion king stuff, like

they are actually on stilts. It's very very intense. But but you are, like, in the hierarchy of cast members, you're the coolest person. So I will let you know, like, yeah, it's a big deal if like you get to talk to someone who's a friend of a princess. The coolest person to me was the people that worked Indiana Jones because they got to work underground and where those cool hats. Oh yeah, no that that was also so the under that the hierarchy backstage, at least for me and kind

of everywhere, was based on two things. How cool the costume was and how cool the ride was. So I worked Intomorland, I worked for Hista Honey, I Shrunk the Audience and Astro Orbit, which okay, even though like I did learn to appreciate I hate. I was really mad when I got it, and by the end of it,

I loved it. I was the one who knew Captain Neo was coming back way before because in my original tour, they're like, we still have the film for Captain EO and I was like, oh, y'all are just gonna play it when he dies and they're like, you don't know, and that's exactly what they um. Yeah. So, but so the coolest Intomorrowland was um was Space Mountain because this one Space Mountain slaps. It is the hardest, it's the cool.

But then they also had the outfit they were only dethrown because this is how long ago worked when this Finding Nemo ride came because that outfit slapped. Uh, you know, I know a few people who still kept their costumes after they left, which you know, no one would want to say that on air because you know, just in

case Papa Disney would want to. But if you're not coming back, well no, So you you scan them when you check them, so there's a big costuming area backstage, and so you scan them out so they're attached to you, but you can take them home and like, but what was cool is since you don't wash them, you just bring them back and they scan them in and they'll wash them and they'll give you a new clean pair.

But like you still take them home. So if you were like let go or if you quit, you know, they they'll be like, hey can you please, They'll send you a letter like hey, run those back to us, and you can do that or not. Your prerogative. So speaking of just a theme park, say we're talking of talking about hierarchies of like you know which group had like the better area. Essentially, if you're looking at um for the cast members who work on the rides and stuff.

So now with Galaxy's Edge open and all the people in costume there that work on are they the top? Hands down your cool? Galaxies Edge just probably ruined backstage culture because everyone probably ran. But looking at how intense Galaxies Edges that might be, so certain things that require a lot of acting um will be casted in the same way that they do princesses. So like, for example, I don't know if you remember interventions which turned into

that that was not a regular castmer. You were casted at interventionals because you were constantly performing. So I imagine Galaxy's Edge is probably not even regular cast members, Like they might have a few for some of the like uh storefront type things, but I if if I had to guess, I think they were casted because there's so much uh um, what what what guest interaction? Yeah, it's very immersive. I can't even ask for the bathroom regularly have to say uhs, like the refresher or something, what

is that powder? Yeah, that's your Disney minute or two or five. I just wanted to follow up with one final quote from Molo, who said, this is very kind of what we were talking about, how they weren't sure about Star Wars being anything. He said, quote, you have to remember that Star Wars was a one off. At the time it was made. It was all quite new to us, and we were working in the dark with not much time and a relatively low budget. When it came to an end, most of us thought the film

would never be shown. So it's great success came as a real shock. That's amazing thinking making this movie and look what it's blown up. I feel like all of us in Hollywood have like worked on something where like, yeah, this is not and this is never going to be anything. Like when you're in the heat of it, it's like this is falling apart, this per Oh my gosh, someone's coffee cup is in the middle of near denars Um. Yeah.

In my in my experience, it's always the thing you least expect that like will blow up in in a way. And like, you know, while I'm you know, thankful for everything I get to do in this industry, if no one's ever excited about the thing you want to be known for. It's always some other thing where you're like, you're this thing. I'm like, yeah, I did that, but I did some mother cooler stuffy're like, I know, I know that I know you from this, so this is

what I'm shouting out. It's like, all right, cool, coo coo coo cool. I'm so thankful to be in Ralph, But to be honest, I'm really tired of being Ralph breaks the Internet Danny Fernandez. When my HBO thing got announced, I'm like, no, I do. I have a lot of other things, y'all you Ralph. I mean, that's all they did. When my show got announced, I was like, Okay, yes they did, and now my pirst release can say something new. Um So Molo actually did not return for the final

film and the trilogy. Lucas actually hired Aggie Garod Rogers. She worked on the color purple for the job. The two previously worked together on his future film debut, American Graffiti. However, Star Wars super fans will note two names in the credits of Return of the Jedi. Rogers shared credit for the costume design with Nilo Roddis Jamarro, who worked as the film storyboard artist. Something that happened in Return of the Jedi was Leah's bikini, which is very controversial to

this day. It was rumored to be inspired by the art of Frank Franzetta. The costume caused a lot of controversy, as I said, um, and uh, you know, had some I don't even know what I'm trying. Carrie Fisher, I think was mixed about it. But um, Tino, you said that you knew you've had to make this costume a bunch exactly. Yeah, I mean it's always a fan favorite for both men and women. One of the things I thought was probably the most interesting was what I like

to call a little time capsule event Um. The original costume was shinned off. I believe it was back in two thousand fifteen, and for a while the purchaser was anonymous. No one knew where it went. Then it turned out a gentleman named Gus Lopez, who lives in Seattle runs his own little like Star Wars museum. He came forward and he said, yep, that was me. I bought it. You guys can come see it. But what was neat was when Lucasfilm actually shipped it to him it was

in this giant crate and he didn't expect that. He just thought it was going to be the costume itself. When they opened it up, there were original sculpts that they did, there were the castings, there was even uh, all these pictures that they had done with costume tests with Carrie Fisher, even her measurements were in there. So

I was like, that's nuts. And I actually had found an article about that when I was doing research to build my own yea for me to wear mold of of Carrie Fisher's bits, Like, I think that should you're getting her booty in her her up stairs and or downstairs,

you you should get that should cost more money. Yeah, I know, it's so interesting because it this is like such a controversial outfit because I mean there's like an element to it where like up until this point in Star Wars, it still was kind of walking that line that I was kind of for kids, and it does

take like a way too hot turn. And I think also, yeah, the one thing I think actors love to know good and well long ahead of time if they're going to be in a skimpy outfit or shirtless or nude, because you know. Uh. Carry was quoted saying things like, you know, um Lucas would show her sketches into to frighten her into exercise, and she uh and she said she thinks you know and uh and she said he succeeded because

you're like, oh, I'm gonna be in this outfit. But it is like in a in a weird way, even though it's kind of infamous, it turns out to be iconic too. And the Frank Frazetta it definitely like I remember Frank Fraze at it because I took a drawing class in high school and the like first drawing he had us do was a Frank Rosetta drawing and it was kind of like similar, like he did a lot

of like scantily clad women doing tough stuff. I was like, I feel like, this is weird to have your high school students doing this, but okay, but like once I found out Frank Frenzetta is like a phenomenal artist. I also want to say, before anyone writes me, I know that like, uh, Kerry actually enjoyed a lot she you know, she was able to kind of poke fun at the bikini quite a bit. And I think that she always

had a really good response. I can't remember I read I've read several of her books, but I know that when people would get mad about it, and she was like, yeah, and then look what I did, I like killed him, you know, and it was like so legendary, like iconic, that kind of like I took the power back. So yeah, she always had a really good response on her neck. Yeah,

she always had a really good response about it. I feel like that's one of the most icon next Star Wars looks because you you know, fast forward to today, at every you will never not see a slave laya in some sort of into iteration at any convention or Star Wars events, and and now people go crazy with

it because they kind of like mixed. And then we were talking about Disney bound um off Mike, and you know, I'm starting to see those mixtures together, like a Disney Princess or something mixed with a slave layer, and I think that's just so interesting for the fans to kind of combine their loves of Star Wars and other fandoms

into one single costume. I remember there was talked to for a while where I think it was shortly after the Disney's acquisition of lucasfilm that they said they were going to stop making anything that was merchandise related to Slave La. I don't even know if they fully committed to that, but it's it's interesting to see that at least far as fans go, Like in cosplay, they went haywire, were they were like, Nope, We're still gonna wear We're

still going to be proud of it. Oh that means I need to get a scene with Mando, just like you know, if you if that exition this world where people can be, you know, half naked, I got. I got some requests aside from what's his name with his nipples out Kylo Kaylo, my god, the nipples that launched a thousand memes. I love Kylo. I'll never forget. We just take a really quick break and then we're going to pop back in to more of the costumes and fashion of Star Wars. Right after this we are back.

We're still talking about the fashion and costumes of Star Wars. I want to talk about the Red Guards because they look cool as heck. Um, So, Tina, you kind of know what they were inspired by. So Lucas used to actually race hot rods back when he was younger, he actually got into a kind of an accident and that kind of ended his passion for that and then that's

kind of when he got more into filmmaking. But I remember reading that the design for the Red Guards was actually inspired by his past love for race car driving. It's kind of the hot rod that's why it's got the hot rod red. Their look kind of got updated, Yeah, they did. And when when I first saw them at um in the Last Jedi, I immediately felt, oh my god,

these are like the updated version. They got to glow up a little bit because in the in the original one for the Return of the Jedi, when we first saw them, like they look cool, you know, again a single color solid, different textures, you know, different different formats and like a little bit shine in the masks. But it's kind of like a head on a cape. And

I felt like they didn't really have mobility. No, definitely not in the Last Jedi specifically, they were given this huge stunt choreography um Pod fight along with Kylo and Ray, so the costume in the updated version, and I know they're not the same guards and Imperial Guards versus. How do you say the name of the nuance again, thank you.

And so I know they're not the same, but I love that they kept the red and it went with the theme with the Throne room and they got all the mobilities except that when I was watching the movie, I'm like, how can they fight? They couldn't see and they have this like one tiny slit. And I think I read somewhere that they said that they could see well. That the sentence was something like they could see well because there was a tiny slit, And I thought, this cog.

This person may not have like spend a day inside that because it's I felt like you you only had front version vision. You didn't have any peripherals. So you have to really trust your stud they're trained. Yeah, that's true. So Michael Kaplan is the one who helped make those. He is from Blade Runner, but he also is responsible for the pants tingling dance costumes of Flash Dance Equally

Sexy leather wearing Brad Pitt and Fight Club. This man knows how to tight suits, both figurative and both figuratively and literally. Um So he said that he didn't want to reinvent Star Wars. He wanted to embrace it and update it. Uh. So for these new Guards, he built off of the Imperial Guards. The classic car Vibe. As Tina was saying, he said, quote, we looked at nineteen fifties muscle cars. The costumes had to be on stuntmen who were fighting very hard. They use weapons, and they

need to have complete range of motion. And if these guys fall, you don't want the armor cracking. And the helmets look like they have no way of seeing, which is what you were saying, Wendy. But there's actually tiny slits and they can see out perfectly well, Wendy. They're very Samurai, very Japanese, but very clean, very star Wars. I want to try one on, and I want to see they look at Dopez. Heck, I want to see more people, cause planes is that I remember when I

first saw that. That was my first thought was, I hope no one asked me to build this because it looks really hard. No, not yet, not yet. Knock on wood. Oh, they're sleek as heck though they're gorgeous. Love them. So. The costume in the Rise of Skywalkers, specifically with some of the the planet that they go to, which is George Jordania. I believe it was pronounced. Yeah, it's it's another desert planet. Seems to be a lot of those in Star Wars. But no, um, you got ice and

you get desert. That's it. That's it. That's why uh end our such prime location. Yeah true, but no, that that celebration scene that they that the main characters that Ray and Poe and Finn wandered into. For me, that was gorgeous. It was It's been a long time since we had a scene. For me, that was the New Cantina. When you walk into the Cantina, that's when you as an audience, you're like, this is a completely different world that I just walked into and you see all the

different aliens. That was the Jordan desert scene. Was that for me, And it was so gorgeous and it felt like something that was It was almost like if you had wandered in and your national geographic and you were just like witnessing a ritual going on. It was beautiful when I know that you've been dying to dive back into pad May. Yeah, because she had so many I mean, the girl is like she's like Lady Gaga. She comes out in different she has like a different outfit for

each thing she really does. And it's funny because when so for production, when they first started, it was agreed upon that she would only have three outfits, and eventually George decided that every time pad Myyamadala was on screen, she was going to be in a different outleve it just like Gaga. It's like, how many costumes do you want?

And he said, yes, so I just have to. She became for me this like icon, this fashion icon fashionista of the Star Wars and a lot of her costumes it went from everywhere from kind of the earthier tones being in all white and like that jumps through the battle suit that she has too, something that's so elaborate in you know, draped with ribbons and hand stitch embroideries, hand beat it. A lot of the stuff that I read that we're hand stitch, hand died, hand beat it.

And I just can't think of how many hours the costume team had to put, um, you know, into her costumes. And a lot of it was gravity defying. A lot of this stuff was very stiff, and I'm like, how do they make that? And you have to make sure that it's durable? It can you know, baby she's able to wear it for many days, maybe through sitting, standing,

whatever scene she's got to do. And I think oftentimes in movies they make multiple pieces, a duplicate so you can wear it, and sometimes they make a lighter version of it so you can wear it so it's you know, if you're in the desert, so we can still breathing, You're not gonna faint. So I just have to say, like, props to the design team, and props and headie Foreman from putting up with a lot of these outfits. I loved a lot of them, Like the lake dress, I said,

is one of my favorite ones. And I think some of the iconic ones is her white jump suit when she was battling. And then we have ones like that bondage like black dress that I A, yeah, I was like is she wearing? And I just didn't expect, I guess a senator to be wearing this like black almost assist type looking outfit. And it was really stiff and I felt like she couldn't walk like she did one of those like do do do tiny snuffs? What's neat about that dress is if you look carefully all along

their her collar a line there are feathers. There's all these dark feathers you know that uh point downward and it was almost mass because of the lighting. But it's there and it's really gorgeous. Wow. Yeah. But pad May to pad May is like my o G girl for Star Wars fashion and just everything she wore I loved, except for that one dress. I think Carry Fisher used to make jokes all the time about pad May's costumes.

She would I'm gonna paraphrase, but I think she would say something along the lines of and then this new girl shows up and every time she walks through a door, she's got a new outfit. No, it's true, It's so true. It was. I felt like it was sometimes a little too many, but also as a girl who loves fashion, I loved it. Never too many, never too many. Um, there are so many things that we could cover, y'all. We just we just glazed the surface, grazed. I'm like, thin,

what are all the G words I can think of? Um, we'll have to do another episode on just the fashion, Like see when we're trying when we were trying to tackle Star Wars, where like we can break this up until we'll do one episode on the Planets and one on the fashion, and then it's like, oh, I guess we could have done five hours on fashion and yeah, so let us know what your favorite costume is. Um again,

I like the low key Oscar Isaac's. This is just I'm just gonna throw in this quote from uh Kaplan, who said, for Oscar Isaac's character, po damn right. I was thinking of him as a nineteen thirties romantic, swashbuckling hero. I looked at Gene Kelly, who have the same physicality and chrisma as Oscar, and was in a few movies where he played a swashbuckler. One is the Pirate. He does seem very swashbuckling. Also, like some of their legs straps.

Are they necessary? I don't know. Are they hot? Yes? Yes? Please? Doesn't need to be necessary? Do they don't do anything? I would just have them attached to pouches that are empty. Just because they write all the pouches they have makes me want a pouch. But anyways, tweeted us, let us know your favorite costume. There are so many we will do another episode tackling the less talked about ones. Yeah, thanks for stopping buy y'all and sharing your knowledge, my pleasure,

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Uh this third stay at eight o'clock called the Science Comedy Show where I do comedy and they get a real life science to say some science stuff and then I mess it up with my fart jokes uh uh and Danny talking. I'm at Miss Danny Fernandez. Um, and like we always say, stay y