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Episode 87: Jumanji

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Be careful with that dice roll, this week we're talking about Jumanji! Dani and Ify dive deep into the game and the franchise as a whole all the way up to the latest film. Learn about the book, the game, and the movies all right here on this episode of Nerdificent!


FOOTNOTES:

Chris Van Allsburg Interview

Roger Ebert's review of Jumanji (1996)

Dwayne Johnson on his Sizzle Power in 'Jumanji': 'God delivered, I signed for it'

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Speaker 1

Welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I'm one half of your host, Danny Fernandez, sitting across from me as always Iffy Way Way first last, Now it's time to blast. No. I think you said that there are other isn't there like one other if you wa way or something, there there are other Iffy's, there are other Iffiau days. But I am the if you want a way, there's close. There's a there's an if even within my family. But he's not a Waddy Way. So back off, Iffy. Do

you remember? Okay, So I said Iffy this thing because my long standing joke is that there's another Danny Fernandez spelled the same d A n I. It's a guy in Spain. He's a part of a boy band, and so it's just funny to me. I'm like, just give me because that was always you know, this is politically incorrect now, but like back then, that was like, oh, that's the girl way to spell Danny, and so I

was able to like differentiate in some way. But I was looking up I had to do a press release for something, so I was looking up photos and so I googled Danny Fern, Like my name Danny Fernandez and I scrolled all the way back Danny Fernandez Ralph because it was like a press release, like one of the record ralph Ones, and this guy was involved in the first record Ralph. He was like, I think he did some of the Spanish music for the when it went

over there, when it was translated. I was like, what, so this Danny Fernandez was involved in Ralph before me? Can I not escape this man? What the heck? No, that's my franchise. And it was like, no, this man was involved in it two years before me. It is painful. Danny fern it. One day we will meet. One day he and I will put a put apart. I think he blocked me. It's just like we'll meet and we won't be rivals. There's another Danny. It's spelled d A n n Y though. Um. I think he's a magician

and he does. He is on Netflix and I'm like, oh, I'm popping up there too. I got something happened on Netflix too. I'm gonna pop up. We'll see Danny Fernandez. If what are you geeking out about? Oh? Man, I think what I'm thinking about is that Black Widow trailer. You know, I'm curious to see what happens with this.

I mean, you know, we we know her fate and in game, so I don't know it's going to be interesting because will they stick to their to their guns and uh and like ended or is this movie going to end in some type of like oh actually she

you know, we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised, but honestly, what I found fascinating, which also dropped today, so we're recording this to Tuesday before when you hear this is the James Bond posters, which is funny because someone tweeted and said, this is why when the James Bond posters, which look real good, when they dropped, someone tweeted and said, this is why we got the Black Widow trailer six hours early because it was like they were trying to

offset Uh whoo, yeah those posters. I cannot wait again. We had an amazing History of James Bond episode with Mark Bernard in yeah um and then Lashawna Lynch as know me, which she tweeted out her poster taking over the double oh seven Moniker. Very excited about it. I know it's super exciting. And I will say another thing I'm speaking about is uh Ma herschel Ali posted that he's going to be in season two of Ramy, so I'm excited to see what that's all about. I love

Mi Herschela. I stay in him. So now I gotta go watch the first season so I can be ready for you didn't watch the first season because that's our form. Look, I know it's hard because we're all like working in TV, and it's hard sometimes to keep up with everybody's stuff. But go watch Rammy. That is our friend and and I'm excited for the second season two. Yeah, speaking of two's and sequels, there's a sequel of a movie of a reboot of a movie, and that's what we're here

talking about today. Today we're talking about Jumane. Yeah. So yeah, as you know when you're listening to this in a few days, the sequel to the reboot, which actually was really entertaining. I think no one expected much of it because it had the recipe for not being that great of it being a reboot, and then it has like the Hottest Stars, which was Kevin Hard and the Rock and Jack Black, so people are like, oh man, but they actually turned out to be a surprise hit. And

now they're bringing another one. My favorite is a Jack Black character like that is my favorite, just seeing him be like guys like just all in his like valley girl voice, and he's doing such a good job because you can really feel the personality of who he's playing with each one. So I'm really excited to check that out. Yeah. So, um, this is something I didn't know when we were researching for this. But it actually came from a children's book. Yeah,

that's that's what I was gonna say, Dumanji. I only knew it from the movie the first movie. Yeah, but it was actually a children's book which was written by Chris Van Alsberg, who also wrote Polar Express, which, by the way, yes I had that book with the bell came with like a little bell. But what was creepy is Tom Hanks' portrayal. I'm sorry, Like it just weirds me out. Like I love that man and everything, But I don't know why the animation in that movie. Maybe

it was the time I was growing up weirds me out. No, it's it just the I think it was the animation. I think lot of people reference it when they talk about Uncanny Uncanny Valley because it's just so close to real yet still c g I that it just kind of freaks your brain. No, Oh my gosh, I'm looking at pictures of it. Wait if we look look look at this man. Yeah, I don't like it's nightmare fuel. Yeah, look at him. Yeah I don't. It's like anyways. Um, I love you, Tom Hanks, I love you. Oh did

he do mo cap? Of course he did. He did motion capture. I didn't know that. Look at this, See he has the whole cap on in the suit and everything. I didn't realize they did that for his character. It's just like a it's a beloved film, and that's all I'm gonna say. Okay, so so uh yeah, it came out in nineteen one. Jumanji is actually the Zulu word for many effects. So in the book, Peter and Judy are brother and sister who find themselves board one afternoon.

The board game they pick up gives a much more trouble than they bargain for. It's a picture book. The narrative actually isn't in depth obviously as much as the film for the television show. Uh. And then, when asked how he got the idea for the book, Van Olsberg said, when I was little boy, and I would play games like Monopoly. They seemed kind of exciting, but when I was done with the game, all I had was fake money.

So I thought that it would be fun and exciting if there was such a thing as a game board where whenever you landed on a square and it said something was going to happen, then it would really happen. Yeah,

I know. And this book was so good that it won a Caldecott, which was an award given annually by the Association for Library Service to Children, and it was a division of the American It's a division of the American Library Association to UH to the most distinguished American picture book UH for children, and he won that in two The art, which was also by Van Elsberg, was in a surrealist style, often playing with like perspective. Wait, I totally did have this book. No, I bet you did.

To hang on, look, I'm going to show you, and I guarantee you we'll look at it. Do you recognize this? No, I don't recognize that. Wait. I mean, well, it's not it's not even necessarily because I didn't have it. Just my dad, my Nigerian dad, was very slow on American media like everything, Like like I didn't. I didn't get

fancy like books like that. Okay, I mean I probably got it from the library or something, but I totally had this book and the right it was very much a picture Okay, so the picture book is kind of what I'm looking at is like black and white, very stylized, like contemporary looking artwork. Uh but wow, I did. I guess let me know, if you had the book, if you had the Jumanji book at home and you're listening to this, I thought I didn't, But now that I'm

looking at these pictures, I totally did. I recognize this cover and these kids. Uh So the movie then came out in it took a lot of liberties with the text, as it kind of needed to. There wasn't too much to work from than like scenes of monkeys in their living room and like rhinos going through their house. The original film was actually written by Jonathan Hensley, who did

Armagannon and Punisher oh four, a totally different moving than Humanji. Yeah, but also like I'm always fascinated to find fans of that Punisher like a lot of people like it actually, oh yeah, a lot of people like it. I thought you were going to say you always find it fascinating when people do such different things, and then I was going to mention how the same person wrote both the

Hangover part two did Chernobyl and then did Joker. I always think I always bring up how um the Russo brothers did my favorite guilty pleasure, which is you mean dupri Solter. We have a comedy background, which you see a lot of, like with whatever his name is, uh Tony start calling that guy squid word ye. Jim Strain also worked on it, and Greg Taylor, who wrote Harriet the Spy still holds up too. Oh yeah, yeah, I was. It was on like I was in a hotel knows

On and I was watching. I was like, oh, this still slaps. Did you see that scene where the person they tweeted it they were like, Harriet did not have to go in on her like that with that girl where she was like it was like your family doesn't love you or whatever. It was okay, um. So he's stuck in this board game for nearly thirty years. He's led out of the game when his Robin William as Alan Parish. So he's stuck in a board game for nearly thirty years, He's led out of the game when

a new family moved in. Uh, Kirsten Dunts and her brother to his old house and the kids continue to play where the original crew is left off. Also Bonnie Hunt, remember Bonnie Hunt was in it. The movie earned Wow sixty two point eight million dollars worldwide. I Fell I was pretty big at the time, became the tenth highest

grossing film of the year. In an interview with The New York Times, director Joe Johnston, who did Honey I Shrunk the Kids, stated that the studio, which was Sony, said they would make the film if we could get Robin to do it. He had passed on the original script. A bunch of a stayed up all night doing a cut and paste job and changed a lot around, and Robin liked it enough to say yes. I'm so curious to what he didn't like about the original script. I

wonder if it was two kids like because Jumanji. The film is actually very dark and it deals with grief and loss and PTSD uh, and it's actually really heavy, like it's scary now when you think about it. Yeah, it is truly heavy. You have this guy who like essentially was trapped in a game for thirty years. He was a kid when it happened, and now he's like thirty years in the future and he like meets his crush.

It's it's wild. They never really truly uh. I would love the like after Jumanji when they're teaching this kid everything he should know now as a thirty year old. Well, my, well they do uh they do, you know, get to in the end end up together and then they go and um, Judy and her brother's Judy and her brother. Uh, they like go to their Christmas party and their parents are like, oh, we're going to go skiing and they're like,

don't go because that's how they lost their parents. Um. So. He also said every Monday night Robin went to a comedy club in Vancouver and did an hour and a half of improv with the locals, then another hour and a half of solo stand up. God, that's a lot three hours of burning off x esteem. He was glorious, said Jonathan Hyde. That was the actor that played Alan's father, Yes and the Big Game Hunter. Yes, he played both

the villain and his dad. A very captain, a very hook yeah thing um and yeah it's it's so interesting reading about like Robin doing improv and comedy, because that was the one train I missed, and I truly that's the one I have very few regrets in my life. One of my guess regrets is, I guess at uc B, Robin and Williams used to go to the jams and he would just go up and perform, and so people used to be able to perform. So there are people at UCB now to this day who got to perform

improv with them. And I was like, man, if I just would have started a little earlier, because it was only like not too long ago, like not too long after I started. But anyway, back to Jumanji, Uh, Bradley Pierce, who was Chip and Beauty and the beasts who played Peter recalled the gifts that William gave to the cast. So Robin he would give the cast, I guess, hard bound copies of the script as rap gifts, and then

he would sign them. He wrote something like you were a great monkey boy and a pleasure to work with. You have a bright future ahead. And he was very much an inspiration, not as a performer but as a person. I love hearing stories like that because like, that's who the type of person I always uh want to be. Like on set, there was on the Now it's out, I can talk about it in a wizard school draw ap out. Um, anyone who actually like went through and washed and played it. It's on Echo is it h

Hello Echo dot com? Or you can download the app. But there was the actor who plays like the creepy dude at the bar with me. He came and he had gifts for everyone, and I was like, I've never done that. I gotta do that. I gotta bring little gifts when I get really stressed on set. My my, what I always tell myself is you have the ability to make people feel good, Like I do know that about myself. And it's like, how can I make someone feel good today, like someone that's working on set or

crew person like whatever. How can I make someone laugh or feel acknowledged? Yeah? So the effects eight most of the film fifty million dollar budget, which now when you watch it kind of holds up a little. Yeah, but you're like, Okay, it's a product of its time, but most of the movie still looks good. Ish. Um. While the film was a financial success, many critics worried that the picture would be too scary for children. I mean, honest to God, it probably is middle school and up.

I wonder maybe fifth grade. I think if I couldn't show it to my niece who's four or anywhere around that age, I think it would be way too scary. I mean you literally have a like a hunter like hunting you down with his rifle. Roger Ebert said Jumanji is being promoted as a jolly holiday season of entertainment with ads that show Robin Williams with a twinkle in his I the movie itself is likely to send younger children fleeing from the theater or hiding in their parents arms.

Those who do sit all the way through it are likely to toss in turn with nightmares inspired by his frightening images. And he's not entirely wrong. Yeah, he's not entirely wrong, but I wouldn't go all too I feel like a little sauce on that. It's definitely not a holiday. I mean, there's the Santa clause. I remember what was terrifying for me and my young age with that elephant scene at the Stampede and they hied in the car and like they're being crushed in a car like that

was a really intense scene. I think for me it was the spider, like the huge spider. Also the like boy getting the tail, like turning into a monkey. Um, the wasps actually the like hornets. Remember this all, um, So we are going to take a really quick break and then we'll hop back more into Jumanji in the future of Jumanji. But first we wanted to talk to you a little bit about away bags, which I have one and if he has one. I look, I know he geeked out about this before, but it's sleek as heck.

I wanted one for so long. I think I told y'all, but totally geeked out about Jennifer Rubio after listening to her. She's a fabulous woman of color who created this this brand these way back. She saw a whole need as far as luggage and traveling and just created something that was super sleek and great for professionals. But it also and also like game like people that are need to charge their phones. Like there's so many cool tech things

about it. But yeah, I mean it has like it all because it looks good, it functions really well, like the all three sixty roller wheels means that I can just walk. I'm never pulling. I remember a friend of the pod, Kelly Nugent, she hasn't a way back too, and we're talking about how we're done pulling. We're never pulling a bag, We're just rolling it with us. But then also all the compartments are set up too in such a way, like y'all know, I'm a huge sneaker head.

And they have a side of the bag where you can leave all your shoes, so it's separate from the clothes, but it has enough space so that you can still put your clothes in it, and that enough makes it worth it for me. I'm loving it. Yeah, it has like a really cool shell with like a double exterior, so can't withstand any type of travel that you might have. M like if he says it has an interior organization system. It has like a built in compression pad to help

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And we are back talking about Shumanji. It's great, and we pretty much we're talking about the earlier movie with uh uh Robin Williams and it was it was a hit.

There was. It also led to a TV series that had three seasons between and I remember that it ran for three seasons at Aerto on up N and they had forty episodes, but it excluded the kids like super Cool Aunt and the kids were sucked back in the game and they had to help out and find the clues you need to escape and you can actually stream it on Hulu, right what yeah, Oh I want to go watch it. Oh yeah, Well another thing is that I don't know. I guess I always thought the board

game just existed, but it didn't. Milton Bradley of course, was like, saw this and saw dollar signs, and so they came out with the board game after the film was released because it was so popular. It featured many of the main plot points in the film. Uh, And I think you can still get it now. It looks like it it's worth a hundred bucks though. Okay, the game board from the original film sold for over sixty thou Now that is something if I had a ton of money, I kind of would want because do you

remember the one in the movie. It like had that big um glass dome in the middle and it like kind of showed when they would roll the die. Also, the die was cool. The board itself, like in the actual movie, was wooden. It was in great like engraved. It was super cool. So that was worth sixty dollars. But I think the board game, which I don't know if they still have out now, but it looks like you can get one from the nineties. That's like about

a hundred bucks. Bandai Namco Entertainment, Europe, Outright Games and fun Solve had teamed up with Sony Pictures to make a video game based on the latest Jumanji movies. So it just came out. So that's a that's a fresh one if y'all want to hit it up. And then what's cool is that the success of the gineral Jumanji is what led to the film adaptation of the Polar Express.

So Chris van Alsberg's Jumanji being adapt adapted into this film that did so well, then he was able to adapt other works of his pretty neat, you know what. This is so fascinating. So Jumanji and and Sony are now facing off twice in the box office against the Star Wars film. So the Last Jedi in Seen and The Rise of Skywalker will premier the week following the third installment of Jumanji. I find that really fascinating that, like they keep butting up against each other. Pretty sure

I can tell which one is gonna win. But you know, it's also cool to see the rock um oh man um. But yeah, speaking of the rock one, So we were talking about the classic Jumanji and all that, but there was a reboot, and like I said, you know people people weren't ready, but they were. Would you call this a reboot? Um, because Alan Parish exists in this he is right, yes, yeah, yeah, it's technically yeah, it's almost like a sequel. Yeah, because it's not even like it's

the game doesn't exist, there's a new one. Um. So yeah, so in this one, instead of a board game, it's it's going to be video games. And it's like, instead of just a brother and sister who were semi orphans, you have this kind of like breakfit breakfast club asque like archetype who have to work together to get back to the real world. So in an interview with Vanity Fair, Matt Tolmach spoke about the difficulty of making a sequel

without the show's original star. He said, quote, there are a lot of people in their thirties and forties who hold this movie very near and dear. This was a seminal movie for them, and Robin Williams was fondly remembered for his role in it. It was a tipping point for visual effects in movies, and it's imprinted very vividly on people. We wanted to make a movie that honored the spirit of Robin and the legacy of the movie,

yet take it in a completely different direction. Do you think you had to do And they did a good job of yeah. And so they had the script since two thousand and twelve, but couldn't quite crack it until community screenwriter Chris McKenna stepped in. He came to him with a pitch and Chris, you know, he said, he's a big dude. He was very tall, and he said that,

you know, he's an avid video game player. And it used to come home from school feeling all these things that you felt in high school, you know, uncomfortable in your own body, don't really like it. But then you would go into these video games and make these avatars. And I definitely remember that because you had games like RuneScape, World of Warcraft came out while we're in high school, and these were games where you got to play as these different characters, but still it was like an avatar

to represent yourself. Like you know, if you're playing like a Halo, you're like playing as master Chief. But in a lot of most massively multiplayer online games, you're playing as this character you're creating that represents yourself, and so I always found it fascinating me. Uh. Mostly as for me, I typically do like it. It's such an interesting kind of point to make. And I'm not really trying to say it as a flex or anything, but I could.

I always knew I was like pretty okay with my self image because when I played video games, I always wanted it to look like me, like I never wanted. But meanwhile, I had like certain friends who like always made them look buffer than themselves or like always played

like a woman. And there's you know, I'm not saying that that that means anything in particular, but it is funny to see, like if you're playing a game, whether or not you want to make the hero yourself or you're like, now, this has to be something completely different than me. Yeah. Another thing that McKenna, who actually worked on the first script with Eric Sommers, his writing partner on the Lego Batman movie and Spiderman Far from Home, did not realize that they wrote both of those. Uh

shared his opinion on sequels in the same article. He said, I don't love reboots. You can't have another two kids find the board game. You have to reinvent it. You have to do the opposite it and go into the game. Uh and so like if you said, they wanted to treat it like the Breakfast Club, which was essentially like the nerd, the job, the princess, the highstrung Tracy Flick type, and forced them to all work together. According to The Rock Dwight Johnson, the film was partially inspired by video

games from the nineties. It does very much have that like tumb Rater, Metal Gear, Crash of Bandicoo like elements of it. There's actually an entire list of games under Island Survival that also plays into the storytelling of Jumanji. By the way, before we ran run right by it because we said it so matter of factly, do you know who Tracy Flick is? Right? No? Have you ever seen the Reese Witherspoon movie Election Barely? Okay, So that's Tracy Flick. That's the type. So if you if you

never seen Election. And the only reason I wanted to point it out is because this character is so funny, and also because I had to do this scene with a scene partner in my acting class. Uh so I really got to learn. But Election is about like that you're super type a person and she wanted to be class president and of course she knew she was the best for it, so it was like that stereotypical like

book smart, super driven. I think another comparison would be like Amy Poehler's character and Parks and Wreck, where they're just like super invested in theirselves. So if you ever hear like Tracy Fleck, that's kind of what they're talking about. I love it. I also this was, you know, the start of this, not start, but it was like more into this Rock and Kevin Hart bromance. Their relationship is hilarious to me because they just like dog each other

so much. I know, And if I can just for a second to take a step out of this from just looking at it as is, but just also from a you know, creative social media marketing aspect, it's so such a great idea you can be known to just as the way you interact with people, because it just makes people more interested in you ribbing each other. And I think you know a lot of the guys and white women we get that a lot because we obviously

grief each other online. So I'm always up for it, and I love seeing it because like it's but it's just kind of like it's kind of like when you see people you know you're hanging out and you know you have those two friends that always give each other hard time, you just love watching it. And so I love that they both lean into it, like the fact that like when they're in you're and I think you're

a thousand percent right. I think this movie was the beginning where they first started really doing it because it was this um actually, when did the first one come out? The first? Um? No, no, I mean the first So it was like right after Central Intelligence. So they did that movie together and I don't know, I don't know if you saw that or remember it. I remember it. It was all right, you know, it was great. I

actually really liked it. But so like they it's when they kind of like right on the cusp of when they started doing movies to other and is the reason the why now Kevin Hard appears in Hobbs and Shaw randomly, but yeah, no, I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing at me. I love the right I follow him. He's definitely definitely must follow on Instagram. I mean, he's very inspirational, he's working out like four am, even though he has to be on set at six am and he was up

until midnight, uh, filming. But what I love is he's somehow spun this. This last a bunch of our friends went to the press junket. They normally have it in like Hawaii or Mexico or whatever. Um for a lot of these jungle like that in Drastic World they did that. Um, they'll fly out press to like you know where they filmed and stuff, or like a more tropical area. And he's somehow spun it into his tequila. You know, he

is a tequila company. Oh my gosh. If he follow him on Instagram, he like every third post is one about his tequila company. Which is fine, Like I love the man, support POC run businesses. Um. But it was just funny because it was like also kind of like fit in with the theme and it was like at the junk like also tequila. You know, he's an entrepreneur. But yeah, So the teen film, what I did remember from it was my favorite Jonas brother was in it, Nick Jonas um and how the Rocks character his like

superpower was the smolder Do you remember that? And they had to actually convince director Jake Kasden to do that, which is so funny because I bet on paper it doesn't sound as funny as he actually does it. So the film gross nine hundred sixty two million worldwide. It became the fifth highest grossing film of seen but the fiftie highest grossing film of all time, which is fascinating.

I mean it is it is a sequel, but it's not necessarily like you know, some of the other ones that were looking at, like again, they're going up against Star Wars and so it's it's a fascinating conversation and for me to be like, people aren't going to the movies anymore, or I guess if they are, they're going just for these But like this is a well known I p but I wouldn't consider it up in the realm of Marvel, d C or Disney. So it is fascinating that it still made it into the fifth highest

grossing films of all time. That is just a fascinating um. So we had I did. I didn't want to say before we moved on. That also worked on the screenplay with Scott Rosenberg and Jeff Pinkner. I didn't want to leave them out. They also wrote it uh, in a collaboration, but it did start Dwayne Johnson, Jack Black, Kevin Hart, Karen Gillian, who you will recognize as a Nebula, Yeah,

and Nick Jonas and Bobby Cannibal. It's actually set twenty one years after the original Jumanji, and they do, of course make a reference to pay tribute to Robin Williams by mentioning his character's name by mentioning Alan Parish. Yeah. No, it's it's very it's it's so because, yeah, they find this old video game console. They're drawn into the game's jungle setting, and they become adult avatars, uh, of the characters they chose, and they found that you don't just

play the game, you must survive it. So and it's just kind of the same beat as the board game. You have to beat the game to escape the game. So now they're fighting for their lives literally to beat it. This is really fascinating because Bradley Pierce, who again played Peter Shepard in the original one, he actually told E News that the remake was quote unnecessary and kind of insulting. But I mean, you know, it's been quite a while

since the first one came out. It's a really good concept and they updated it in a way that was kept it fresh. I know, it's it's that's that's always such a um interesting take. Is this idea of unnecessary because like when when is a sequel necessary? And the and and you know it's I think the best answer I kind of uh got for it was from Alonzo um do all Day from Who Shot You, who also is a review editor for The Rap who said, you know, he really enjoyed Frozen too, even though it's an unnecessary

uh sequel. And someone in the Who Shot You um group was like, well, what what is that? What is that? And he was like, well to me, he was like, unnecessary is that? You know, a necessary sequel is a story that isn't finished and then you do it, and then an unnecessary is just kind of when you're just

doing it again. Uh. And I feel like that that's I mean, like when you put it like that, I feel like it's not necessarily a negative thing, but it just unnecessary feels like such a negative word because it's like it's unneeded. You don't you want it. But it's like I think as long as people are interested in the I P it is necessary because you want to feed that. I p because what are you gonna No one's going to re buy the old movie? You know, what are you gonna do? Put out a criterion you

know collection? Well, what's fascinated? You brought up Frozen too? Because when I was doing press, when I was interviewed, I was the um host and moderator for a lot of the press, the Ralph stuff, And actually Disney gave me that question to ask the filmmakers, I think also to get ahead of the press. Uh. So I would ask them as the moderator. Uh, And it was, you know, why did you you know the film? It kind of wrapped everything up with these characters? Why did you want

to revisit it? And that is exactly on the money if he is. I think, Um, there's more story that could be told? Is normally what they say, like, there's more you could do with these characters. And I think they were like we're we weren't done telling their story. Um. Same with Frozen. It's like, yeah, you could just leave it at that, or we could kind of play around with them more. What else can they do? What other worlds can they explore? Um? What else can we explore

with their growth? And so stay with incredible. I mean actually all of those and finding Dorry, and it's like, all of those don't necessarily need Toy Story fit perfectly.

It was beautiful, but a lot of people love Toy Story two, three and four, so you know it's, uh, it's not necessarily and of course it's not necessary, Yeah, but it's interesting because you're interested in the I P. And I think I would argue that the Dumont reboot was necessary because, I mean, now tabletop games are starting to take over, but you know, for a while, like no video games are the new hit, so you are

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drops this weekend. It's Jumanji the Next Level. I should have said the other one was Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle, which is actually my favorite. Guns and Roses really um and I think I need to clear I don't know if I said this on here, Okay, so maybe it was the episode with Joel. I listened to Duff mccagan, he's the bass player for Guns n Roses, and I listened to his audio book. Uh, it's so easy and

other wise I think is the name of it. Highly recommend because he also talks about Pearl Jam, you know, losing his friend like all the hair metal days, like losing his friends to drugs. How he like, oh my gosh, like his spleen or something burrs his stomach first they were drinking so much. I mean he's totally sober now and a really really great guy, great dad, great husband, like very pro women, like goes to marches and stuff.

But he um back when he was younger, he was drinking so much his stomach exploded and um, he said, like his legs were cramping and it was like his stomach acid was actually going into his It was wild. But what I was going to say is, uh, this has a point. I think the fact that I brought up was that Duff Beer from The Simpsons was named

after him. He actually said that in his auto on his autobiography, but it turns out that's kind of not true because Matt grading said, no, that's that's absurd, like that's absurd, and then Duff was like, well, I think it's absurd that he said that it was absurd or whatever, and so it was so funny, but like several people at The Simpsons have been like, we did not name

it after you. Um, although it is kind of fascinating because it was kind of like the same time, and Duff said, like, you know, he started to see people wearing t shirts of Duff Beer like at his things, but it was I want to clarify that that Apparently both sides are sticking to their story and I don't know which one is true. Um. So the last movie was Welcome to the Jungle. This one is the next level and uh, someone that we know, Aquafina is going

to be in it. Iffy, that's I'm drinking that Aquafina juice. You know. I saw the Farewell she crushed in that, and I watched Crazy Rich Asians and I'm like, okay, cool, Yeah, so it is, let's couple God. This is directed by Jake Kasdan again um so the premise is unknown to his friends. Spencer kept the pieces of the Jumanji video game and one day repaired the system in the basement

of his grandfather's house. When Spencer's friends Bethany, Fridge, and Martha arrived, they find Spencer missing in the game running and decided to re enter Jumanji to save him. Spencer's grandfather, Eddie and his friend Milo Walker here the commotion and inadvertently get sucked into the game. That's the part I'm

excited about too. Before any of Spencer's friends can select their avatars with a new quest offered to them by Nigel Billingsley, the teenage friends must help Eddie and Milo get used to their their in game avatars, get them to help find Spencer and Bethany and escape Jumanji once again and for all, unless they decide to do another sequel. There are new people joining the team, Danny de Vito and Danny Glover. Oh my gosh, I love Danny de

Vito with all my heart too. And it looks like we're gonna have Nick Jonas reprising his role and Colin Hanks as well. He did pop up, remember in the

original one. And what's interesting is apparently the Germanty The Next Level is going to be the first Hollywood film to be shown in the United States with its immersive cinema experienced technology that comes from the most the French multiplex company c g R Cinemas and uh it was launched three years ago by c gr in The ummersity format works with five LED panels flanking each side of the auditorium filling peripheral vision with the complementary colors and

Regal l A Live wo whoop is uh is all? Um? The regal l A Live complex was also one of the earliest sites with for d X technology from Koreative from Korea based company cg for d Plex in addition to real three D three D tuch Um three D installation. So it seems like uh they might be It might who knows. Maybe uh, regular A Live is going to

be the first to rock with that. Um. I can't remember if they were the ones that I think they were, But I saw the meganty we didn't as my friends, and I'd like Joe like, we'll just go and see whatever, and like it's way too expensive and you get water like squirted at you. Yeah, it's it's really funny to me.

They should do more, like but really do it? Like there I think there was a helicopter scene and like it's like, you know, all this blowing air at you and like, but yeah, I really want it to be like you know, soaring the Disneyland ride and when you're soaring over California and you're soaring over these orange trees and then they like sprail the orange so it smells like fresh oranges. Like that's what I want. Oh yeah, I want to watch. I want like mosquitoes flying at me.

I wanted to smell like sewer swamp. Oh yes, thank you. Here we in a stanky place. If you guess how much the rock may just take a guess what do you think that he made for this ten million? If he I would think like yeah, like how much would he get paid five million. Yeah, what do you even do you make tequila? Yeah? Well because and it makes sense to tequila, it makes sense to you because a movie like this is going to definitely do well overseas,

so they're probably expecting a lot in return. So yeah, that that's going to be small pill. This might be a close to billion dollar. This is gonna do really well with the holiday because a lot of people aren't just going to see one. You know, you're there, you're off, the kids are off for like two weeks, so you're probably gonna see you like one or two films. I'm sure everyone's gonna go see Star Wars. But also this is coming out during the holiday, so you're definitely gonna

take your family friendly, fun, non controversial to Mangi. So this was also produced by both Seven Bucks Productions, which is if followed the Rock, he would know that's his production company because he tweets about it a lot and Heartbeat, which is also Kevin Hearts. Oh yeah, this is uh, this is yeah, stacked, stacked, stacked production list. So yeah, go out and see it. Like you know, there's not much more to say, uh, you know, besides reviewing the movie.

But I haven't seen it yet, so you know, go go see it. Are you a fan of Dumanji? Are you a fan of the New Ones? Let us know on flying? Are you just a fan of the rock? I mean that, who's going to blame you? He's so I know everybody's like he should run for president. I'm like, but then you would not like him? Yeah, because it's so funny is the people that we love it eventually like their political stances and whatever like are flawed. You know, they are um and then you know they have to

do things that we might not agree with. They have to like all the stuff, and then you just would not like him um anymore. Anyways, that got dark? Where can people will find you? Danny? Um? Well? You know, Actually tonight, y'all, thank you to everyone that watched me on the CW on Sunday. I am also going to be on the Crisis Aftermath show tonight with Kevin Smith.

It comes on after the Flash who myself and a bunch of other guests are breaking down the Crisis episodes, but we're also just talking about d C cool stuff in general. Um and and you know, growing up with these characters. So check it out. It comes on after the flash and if you miss it, I don't know. Um, I'm sure you can watch it online. What about you? If he you know me, you can find me at if you Wadway on Twitter and Instagram, if he's on Twitch.

If you want the discord, it's Discord dot g G Forward slash Salt Squad, and we keep the discussion going in there of course, t public dot com, Forward slash Nerdificent. You need gifts, you know you need it. You just thought about it right now you're like, oh, I forgot I need a gift. So what you can do is go to to your public, get some mugs, some T shirts, sitting that to all your friends, and also like tag Iffie and I please, because that's the only way we're

going to see it. It's a tag both of us and UM. And then we can reshare it if you want us to know, if you want us to. But you know, like we always say, stay nerdy, Stay nerdy,

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