Episode 84: The Disney Afternoon

I had to avoid laughing because I didn't introduction. It's always the fun thing about being the guest where you're like, how long do I be quiet? You're the voice that you hear. Is the co creator and co executive producer of Historical Roast on Netflix. Also at the Comedy Store, That is Eddie Firth. Hey, thank you for having me guys. Yes,

I'm excited. This is one of those fun ones where it's like two of my best friends I've known forever and now we get to just sit down and talk about I know what we did when we were kids. Oh yeah, it's it's it's gonna be a good time. I love it. If he would, um, I totally cut you off. I was about to say what you were geeking out about this week? Oh man, I think what I'm getting out about is Life is Strange too. I've been playing through the chapters and this one's fun. Uh, Danny,

did you ever hear the first Life is strange? It's kind of like it's more it's like an indie ish game. Like it's it's like like like the Beach House of video games, where like there's some buzz, mainstream buzz, but

they're pretty still pretty indie. But the first one follows a girl and it has a lot of queer representation, and the whole thing is like she finds out she has these special powers where well, the second one continues that same trend, but it's too uh like Mexican kids and they are and it's like, really isn't afraid to touch on, you know, the race relations of it all,

And it's really I don't know. I think that's the fun of narrative games, where it's like like because they don't it's not like you know how sometimes where when video games are media approach race, it's very heavy handed and straight up, but like there are microaggressions that are happening to them that you are forced to notice because

you are experiencing those traumas as the player. I was like, this is what really makes the real work and and like really forcing like like obviously as a person of color,

you're gonna like be more wary. But now, as like if you were like you know, like a white person who might not be looking out for this, you are wary where you're like, oh, maybe just maybe you can get like how like it's it's just a little bit like oh, there's second meanings to things where people said like um, without spoiling too much, like you're kind of on the run, and like there's a line that's just like, well,

why would you run away if you're innocent? And it's like if as as a player who has experienced everything, you know exactly why you ran away, Like it's so clear, but like having that question post you seem so incredulous, But it's like, yeah, that's a question that a lot of people deal with of like well, if you're innocent then because like now you can see how quickly you know why you would do that. Anyway, I'm having a good time for I already know it's gonna make me cry.

At the end, the two boys are so very cute, and it's so I just love that we're out here doing stuff like that. That PC. I always playing PC. But it is available on all consoles, and the last episode of isn't out yet, it's coming out December five, so you can like play and binge the first because they break the game up in the episodes. It's very similar to like the Tailtale games, where it's like it's a it's a heavily narrow, heavy narrative game where it's

based on your choices. So that's it's it's super fun. So even even if you're not quote unquote gamer and are afraid of the mechanics, is very easy to pick up. Not even if you don't play video games. I think I as like I still play. I play a lot of sports video games. There was a point I always call it the line of delineation. For me was call

of duty. Like I was a big I loved video games, Sonic, Mario Brothers, all the early platforms, and then when we got to the like when we really indulged in the third person shooter, I was like, ah, I don't get it in the same way. So I like, I like that it's an easier an easier play, all right, and you just add one more thing to my to my

nerding out, uh is the Sonic? The New Sonic looks good and it's already been reported from folks that it wasn't under crunch that they, you know, gave the animator's ample amount of time. I still stand by my statement that I think they should get points on a movie. If people don't know what points is, it's basically a percentage of earnings of a movie. Because they truly saved

this movie. And I think this movie is going to do numbers now because like now you have the story is they're like not of the actual movie, but the story of the creation of it is there. And the fans feel like they made they felt like they made it happened. So I think just that alone is gonna make it just do so well. I saw a part

of that trailer. It really did interest me. The idea that he had set off some sort of electric signal, like he's living in the wrong world, and it was cool, like it was good, but then he starts playing baseball by himself and he looked like that that intrigued me. I'm definitely am definitely interesting and I only watched the tidbit. I don't like watching trailers because trailers just give away too much now, so like I'll just watch. I just wanted to see the New Sonic and then I was

done and anything. What about you, Eddie? There's two things? Can I can? I thee with two things I have been. I've been binge watching to hlight Zone for the last two months, like these were I already talked about it before we started. How could I? How could I not? It's so I grew up. Every New Year's Eve channel leven w p i X in New York would play the marathon and that was our New Year's Eve. It was make pigs in a blanket and bagel pizzas and

and watch twilight Zone. And I don't know why, but my comfort food in the last two months has just been watching twilight Zone, just around the clock. It really

does hold up. Like I remember, after our episode, I went through and I watched it and obviously they're the stuff that is dated is dated in a way that's like interesting because it gives you insight into the time that it was made, like the first episode being this idea of a man will go crazy and the time it takes to make it to the moon, Like that is history, that's like living history of Like this is their perception of what space travel was before you actually

had proof of it. So yeah, I I highly support anyone who decides to binge Twilight Zone. I just like giving Danny hard time about it. It's there, there is this incredibly there's this weird this is this great timelessness to it. But it's very accessible. I appreciate too. I appreciate that they're basically like twenty five minute episodes twenty two minutes. That half hour format makes it very easy

to just they're simple. They don't overdo anything, even down to the set pieces, like looking at and realizing that for the most part, if it was shot on a sound stage, it looks almost like a high school play,

but a really well done one. I had downloaded an audio book that I had started to listen to but haven't finished about The Twilight Zone because look, I know Rod Sterling couldn't have written every single episode that he didn't like, but like there's some where it says he did where I'm like, look, I know you didn't write I know you didn't write all of these. It literally says it in the credits, But how prolific he was

in making that show. When you look at each season is twentysomething episodes, and they did that many, and it's just it's a fascinating watch and it really I love how it does hold up. There is a timelessness to it that just kind of in black. There's quaintness to it as well. So I've been watching that like crazy. The other thing, I was lucky. I was in New York last week and I had a day to go over to the Museum of the Moving Image in Queens

and they have this incredible Jim Henson exhibit. I mean, obviously Kermit and Miss Piggy and Big birden Elmo are all there, but they showed some of these clips from him on the Ed Sullivan Show when they had him on all the time, and all these all the different puppetry. Right.

This bit, this one bit that really intrigued me was it was clearly like piping that you would use for like air ducts, right, like just this cylinder, but they he turned these into these dancing puppets on the Ed Sullivan Show to this song jazz time a rag jazz or something like that. And it was just this puplicity of it, and I don't know. I definitely watched a couple of clips of The Muppet Show and other Jim

Henson stuff. I sat there in awe watching Kermit ride a bike, realizing I I genuinely had no idea how he wrote a bike, and I was like, that's it's practical. It's not, it's not, it's it's an effect that they had to create in real life. That that was real magic to me. So being that close to all the puppets and all the bits and being able to see it in a museum and walk in and see it like that captivated me. Last week I had I had a blast doing that. Well, I'll have to check that out.

I'm being in New York in a few weeks and I'm definitely gop that it's worth it. I think the Museum of the Moving Image is also the perfect size museum. It's basically two floors of museum, so you don't feel like it's like I love the Museum of Natural History in New York, but it's way too big. I can never see it and so I just get lost for for like two hours, and I'm like, you know, what I'm leaving this stuff. I'm done this, but that I got through the whole thing in like two hours or so.

It was like a nice afternoon. Took the subway out if you if you have time, it's I think that that exhibits up for a while too. You'll enjoy that. What about you, Danny, what did you get out about? You know? Um, they just announced that they're going to make a new Zoro with a female lead. So I'm seeking out you know about sending that to my reps. Um. But also I just think that's cool and um, of course everybody has tagged me in the new Selina series. Yes,

I saw all the tags. Um definitely also already aware. I think a lot of people tagged me in it. And some people would be like why didn't you audition for this or whatever, and like we don't always fit the demo. I don't know, if you know, it's about your growing up, not already grown up. Um, so if they wanted that, they already have that. J Lo did that of her already grown up. Also, like it's so funny because it's like like if the idea I understand and it should have been I hope or you should

audition for this, but why didn't. It's such a there's so many factors at play. Lots of times by the time we hear about it, it's been done. For example, friend of the pod good friend of mine, Jessica gaw was just announced head writer of the She Hulk Show, and I immediately texted her, I like in light speed. I was like, please tell me that room asn't full.

She's like, it is full, And I was like, I imagine because by the time they announced anything in TV, it is full, just like when they announced the new Um hey Man, they had a full room. When they announced the Magic of the Gathering show, they it's just like by that time, and you just have to have either someone in the know, which is usually because like they're it's starting within the same agency or something like that.

But like, yeah, um, I can speak from direct experience on that that when we when we did Historical Roles last year, when they announced it, Yeah, I was literally in the writer's room sitting next to Jeff Ross and the article came out like we were working, like we were in the middle of a workday. This wasn't news to us. We were already three weeks into the product

like we were. We had decisions made, choices picked out, and it came out and it was more just one of those nice afternoons and the riders and we're like, oh good now everyone knows, but there's no people were then trying to We're in the middle, like we're almost done, we have to finish this soon, Like, yeah, why didn't you just just so you know, that's how so why didn't you audition for Zoro? I'm going to there, Yeah, what's it? Where's it is it? It's a movie or

a series, and it's a series. I think, where's it going to be? Disney Plus? Well, yeah, because Disney had Zoro. But I don't know, um, not entirely. I know where it's going to be. It's going to be on the new Warner Brothers app and there's gonna be a crossover where now a female Batman is going to have her parents killed outside the theater. I can even the I hear just the rumblings of Nerd even at the joke of that idea, just like what anyways, that is what

I'm geeking out about. And uh, today we're talking about Disney nineties Disneys, these Dick's Disney tune block, which when I hear I immediately think of Duck Tails Chippendale. That's so funny. That was in my head. Duck Tails. Oh, there's only two more I would add to that, so duck Tails, Chippendale, Tailspin. I was a big dark Wing duck fan. But also that's a dangerous goof Troop when when goof Troop came out, because that was on the heels of the movie and when we were like, we're

going to get more of this. It wasn't as good as the movie, but it was. I mean I watched that, I watched it all that they think they did two episodes at once with that as well, and it was it was awesome. Yeah, let me just tell you, I goof Troop to me, just nothing compares to a Goofy movie, not even Disney movies because it's so different, like even like,

of course Lion King is iconic. Speaking of Lion King, a part of this block was also to Moon in Pumba, but um, the Lion King of course iconic, like you know, award winning. But there's an underground not so underground anymore cult following of a Goofy movie and how weird it was in the soundtrack being so original and like pop at the time, and you know, they literally have a possum part in it. Um. Yeah, So goof Troop just wasn't quite the same, but we're going to talk about

it because it is on here. Also, did you know that Pete is a cat? P is a cat? The cat? Yeah? I always forget that. So Goofy, you know, and Max are dogs, Pete and PJ are cats. Isn't that fascinating? Anyways, we're going to uh, we're going to talk about this nineties block. It was actually so the Disney Afternoon Block, which was later known internally as the Disney Kellogg Alliance if you can think of brands for for branded purposes.

It was created for syndication two hours. It was actually only two hours animated television programming block that was produced by Walt Disney Television Animation. And something fascinating that you were saying, Eddie, was how the shows came out. Can

you explain to people, m HM about the blocks. There were two shows that were initially that we're already being done, like Gummy Bears and Duck Tails were already TV shows that were happening, so they were lumped into it at first as a way to draw people in, but the way they lay it out, which really as even as a kid, this interested me. They put them all together, like the first season was Adventures of Gummy Bears, Ducktails,

Rescue Rangers, and Tail Spin. The next year they would drop the first show, the lead in show, so Gummy Bears got cut. They'd slide every show up a half an hour, and the new show that they were adding to the lineup came at the end of the block, and that was obviously they're building towards that last half hour because that's the most kids are home from school, everybody's watching at that point. They can lead into it

and then their new shows. So like the second season, instead of Gummy Bears being at the top, duck Tails opens the two hour block and dark Wing Duck their new character is now closing it out and then and they just cycle through that. So that was their way of transitioning shows was whatever whatever was on at three o'clock.

It kept the lineup fresh every year, and you were guaranteed the three to four years of each show, but then it was gonna go away and something new every year comes in at the end of the block and Bumps Up, which I find really interesting too because this was the same year that like Tiny Toon Adventures came out, So this is at the beginning of the nineties, and

then Batman animated series is going to come out. So you have all of these afternoon cartoon blocks that are yea heavily competing with each other, and Disney's ideas to keep it fresh constantly. I love that, right, keep it fresh, keep rotating something new in get rid of a show, even if it's one of your You're because this isn't Gummy Bears trending on Disney Plus right now. Yeah, yeah,

these all are technically, but yeah gummy Bears. And I think it was funny because the Mandalorian, well, it came out with one episode, so then everybody was like, what else am I going to do on here? And then everyone's been like binging the old block of shows, so so the Mandalorians coming out weekly that, yeah, I was so like, I was so surprised because friends for another friend of the pod, Adam Lavick, when he was like the episode one was good, I was like, why is

everyone only watching one episode? Now? I know I do not have Disney. Plus I'm still like, I don't know what I'm gonna pull the trigger on that, honestly, So I have a little treat for y'all. Um some crime slipping the cracks up the snack. It's no space stee

no too small, got it? Damn he did not get Honestly, my most I mean, aside from duck Tails of course, who who, I'm very sick and dark wing duck like, let's get dangerous, yeah tailspin um Mine, which actually technically is not on this block, is uh the Adventures of Winnie the Pooh that was on their Saturday block, like Recess, you know, pepper in and then they're throwing pepper range cool for seventh grade. A lot of these shows also wound up on Disney Channel. Yeah, Katum and put them

on their network. Oh yeah. The the the soundtrack to all of them had to me classic theme songs, even down to the actual I don't know if you guys remember this one. Disney Afternoon had an opening theme song, so you tune in at three o'clock and it's not

like they just jump into gummy bears or ducktails. They played the Disney Afternoon theme song, which was then on a CD, Like I got the soundtrack as a kid, and it had gummy bears, it had gummy berry juice, It had songs, all of the theme songs and then some songs that were secondary songs on each show. But the Disney Afternoon theme song was great. It's so funny when you think about how much of our media is supplemented, Like you know, it's easy to forget because you know

whether or not your parents support it. But like my daughter Naomi loves p J Mask. P J Mask is a new Disney during your show about these kids who turned into heroes, you know, at night using their pajamas, and like there's a tour they do of like p J Mask Live and so uh and like I was like, all right, well, I guess I gotta take you to this. Oh that's amazing. I definitely went to one of those Nickelodeon live tours that they were doing. Yeah, the soundtrack

was great. It just oh my god. It was one of the first CDs. I right, we were just getting CDs. A six year old. I had like a little CD player in my room, so I'd play that one and played Disney Afternoon. And I I also loved that this was a time where this is something I don't I

don't watch enough cable anymore. Maybe they're still doing this, but they had bumpers and wrap arounds, a little intros and outros to it, like some of the most simple bumpers right, like usually a bunch of paintbrushes painting Disney Afternoon on but like those bumpers were Oh yeah, I still get caught watching bumpers for that or for Channel eleven or anything. Just watch it over and over. Yeah. No,

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out at a certain point. You sounds so guilty when I feel because I feel bad, Like I turned Yeah, I turned my back, and it was I think. I think once goof Troop came along, that was kind of when I started to fade from it. Like I knew of I knew of Bonkers, I knew of Gargoyles, I knew I know that for instance, my sister was more into to Moan and Poma than I was. But something like Aladdin, I kind of skipped over, even though that

was one of my favorite movies. I was kind of like, I know that this is I know what you're doing to me right now, and I'm not I'm not here for it, and that that is a very interesting thing. And I did get like it's not Disney plus because I know, I said, I didn't get it. But before they had it's Disney now because their app that they had before. I'm sure plus is the way to go now, but I did it so PJ mask um so that

now you only could watch PJ mask. But it always like after the end of the season, you know, it would jump to another show and it keeps jumping to the Lion King spinoff show like The Love of the Pride or something like it was going for a bid and I was like, oh man, this is this This was such a rip off. Like they like they really did just try and keep the story going when there

wasn't much of a story. The voice is so clearly not simbo, which but you know for a Latin they did get Gilbert Godfree to play and that was like that was the one voice they could as if Scott Winger from Full House was doing so much that he couldn't reprise his role as like what how did he turn that down? Who was his rep who was like, yeah, you don't need this right now? You want to get stuck playing Aladdin for Everyone's like yeah, I would love a job. Gosh was the TV show where he had

his hot dad. I just know everybody is like everybody talks about Aladdin's Hot Dad. It might have been in the sequel, which was like, you know, straight to the video. Um. But yeah, so we talked. We touched on Gummy Bears a little bit, but just to be official about it. It first aired in the US in nineteen eighty five. It ran till one, like Eddie said, it got dropped. Um, that's exactly what they did. They would drop the first show and bump up another show. The series was loosely

inspired by the Gummy Bear candies. Actually, Disney CEO Michael Eisner was struck with the inspiration for the show when his son requested the candies one day. Can you imagine that I read a book on Eisener. He seems like a very interesting guy. Like he seems like the Vince McMahon of kids TVs. What my kid likes Gummy Bears. Put some Gummy Bears on the TV areas like Candy Bruck assaults Dad. Um. So this The series actually moved

to ABC for one season. It was from it was airing alongside the New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh again one of my favorites. Uh, and it was known as The Gummy Bears Winnie the Pooh hour. Yeah, yeah, what a great I can guarantee that for most of these I can sing some or all of the theme song. Oh, I know the Winnie the Poo win Oh was just like I gotta get up, I gotta get going. I'm gonna meet a friend of mine. He's round and he's fuzzy. I love him because he's just Pooh bear Whinnie. Yeah,

I'm in my thirties, I still remember that. I go further back with Winnie the Poo. Do you remember the Disney Channel like live Action Winnie the Pooh where they were all in large, fuzzy costumes. That was my jam. That's older. But gummy bears bouncing here and there and everywhere. That was what is it? Okay gummy bears? Yes? So so The always Well remembered from its theme music, which was written by Michael and Patty silver Sheer. And for what you mentioned it the gummy berry juice a type

of magic potion, granny gummy berry juice. That's this episode or hate this episode? Yeah, that sounds like the theme song was something named after something that a kid was just fine, like, kid likes gummy bears, put them on a TV. Oh well, the next show that we're talking about is one that I think has holds more steam in most hearts, which is Duct Tails. The American animated television series produced by Walt Disney Television Animation and distributed

by Buena Vista Television. It premiered on September eighteenth of seven, just a few months before Danny and If You Were Born Uh, and ran a total of a hundred episodes over four seasons, with its final episode airing on November twenty eight. Based upon Uncle Scrooge and the Other Duck Universe comic books created by Carl Barks, the show follow Scrooge McDuck, his three grand nephews Huey, Dewey, and Louie, and close friends of the group on various adventures. Either

involves seeking out treasure or Thornton efforts of villains. You can steal Scroogees fortune or his number one doe. My favorite thing that I remember, which I'm excited I will get Disney Plus and watch is um the Christmas Carol Scrooge. Um. I love that. I mean was where he got his name? Yeah, but like Goofy was Jacob Marley and um, Jimmy Cricket I think was the Ghost of Christmas Past, and then Pete was a gross of Christmas Future and that was terrifying because it was like at a you know, the

graveyard or whatever, but oh, it's so good. And then they have the I used to have a VHS of this and it was all of the original Disney Christmas tunes. It was like Santa's Workshop, y'all treat yourself this holiday season. And watched that that VHS I had and they had the ice Skaters. That is my favorite Christmas VHS. They don't put it. They haven't put that one fully on DVD yet, but you can try to find different DVDs and YouTube clips. It's one recently where the Christmas season

coming up. I was like, I need to find all of those. And I think that that that version of Christmas Carol is the only other Christmas Carol I regard besides my Christmas because that's the Christmas Christmas Carol, the Christmas Carol. But love it. I loved no and tiny Tim was like the little Man Mickey and they like had the little all and Mini and oh so great and oh and and Daisy like was the I forgot. It was like his girlfriend that he never you know

he pursued money instead of her. Okay, so great. And it was a bunch of the characters from The Wind and the Will, like a bunch of characters from Mr Toad We're in there that you would direct. So good. But yeah, I love I love that you just quoted the the It's called a Walt Disney Christmas and it has the Workshop. It has him trying to the kids, sneaking out of bed to see Santa. It's got Chippendale in the Christmas tree, the ice skaters somehow almost go

over a waterfall. That seemed a little extreme, but it was fun. I love. I still remember the pilot episode of duck Tails. Really it's because it's Donald dropping off Huey, Dewey and Louie before he goes to the Navy. Yeah, he's like, he's like Scrooge, will you. Yeah. They finally explained why he's dressed like a set. They were like,

he's been dressed like a serial this whole time. Let's just send him to the navy where would Essentially it's an almost prequel Donald right there showing this alternate universe where he's like, well, I gotta drop the kids off somewhere. I've been in the navy of this whole time. This is why I'm wearing the sailors suit. So whoa. I typed in his name and it says Donald Duck World War Two veterans. Oh man, you know you know. He

also essentially played Hitler in a propaganda film well. Also, the show's popular theme song was written by Mark Mueller and and everyone's favorite launch pad. Mcquack later returned to appear in another Disney animated series, Darkling Duck. Moving on from Duck Tails, Um, we have Chippendale Rangers. Now, I was a big um. I was a big fan of gadget. Her last name is actually hack wrench uh. And if you go to Tunetown at Disneyland, they have a Chippendale's

Rescue Rangers roller coaster and she is there on the wall. Really, I don't think I've been in tune Town. Tunetown always the number one attraction for me is anyone want to guess that the weights where you have to pull the weights up off the ground. So I'm branded drag him, drag him right? Yes? Would it be the one that breaks down every single every other ride, which is um

Mr Rogers Roger Top Tier Tune Town Ride. Yes, yeah, and you are also right as someone who worked at Disney, that was the number one question we get is is Roger Rabbit working And we would just robbit and we would just say no because we're the time, right, But you could just be like, no, it isn't even if it is, because it's so rarely, but it's so good. It's just still is it still running? Yeah? Still, I

haven't been in a while. Um, I don't know if they're going to change that eventually now that everything's getting changed over there, but yeah, Roger Rabbits. What I tell people is go to that and go to Indiana Jones because Indiana Jones you got to go in first. It's

so good and immersive. Like if we could just take a quick Disneyland break to talk about how good Indiana Jones is, Like it really is, like in like, out of all the rides you can wait for, it feels like the most worth it because like, since your underground you get to fee it really does feel like you're going through this temple and the car runs so smooth.

It's yeah, it's good. Rescue Rangers. I love the thing I love about Rescue Rangers and what's gonna come up next, which actually ties back to Indiana Jones is this is I think one of the most successful repurposing of characters who never displayed any characteristics like that whatsoever, like Chippendale were not rescue Rangers, but to then put them in this this was like an almost complete repackaging of these characters, and from me, the same with the next show that's

going to come up completely worked, and it was That's what for me as a kid felt fresh, Like I knew Gummy Bears wasn't fresh, and I knew Ducktails. I've been watching that forever. And then all of a sudden they put out this block and they're like, well, here's Chippendale. It was almost like here's Chippendale, like you've never seen them before. I was in it was what was the what was the other guy's name with the mustache? I loved him. It was like a big Monterey Jack Daddy

is heck um. So just to touch on Chippendale their history really quick. Of course, they are two anthropomorphic chip brothers. I think some people think they're just friends are actually brothers. Their names are actually a pun based on the name of the famous eighteenth century cabinet maker and furniture designer Thomas Chippendale. Do I believe that? No? Do I think it's about the strippers? Yes? Um, this was suggested by Bill text Henson, a story artist at the Studio UM.

But then it would make sense because this was again they came out in n So never mind, I guess Chippendale's wasn't a thing. So do you think the strippers took their name? You know, we have Google right here. They are? Aren't they based off of isn't the Rescue Rangers? Though? One of them is based off of Burt Reynolds? Right? Really? Yeah? Isn't out of Chippendale or out or the Monterey Jack because he had the yeah, Magnum p I and and

oh their dressed the way they were dressed. Yes? Nice? Yes, okay, um so Danna producer, Yes, just informed us. The thing that could not come to my brain is that they are based off of Magnum p I in Indiana Jones, which I love that if you're like parents, Um, but let me just look up Chippendale's the Stripper Joint. One of my favorite Chippendale crossovers is when they appeared in the episode of Full House when they all went to Disney World and Uncle Jesse basically has picnic with them

on because Aunt Becky's mad at him again. Oh no, what's gonna happen? I will have to tweet out. When I was at I think it was l a comic con, somebody was this couple dressed up as Chippendale, as Chippendale dancers, and they had so it was the two chipmunks in thongs with money coming out of their thong, and then they were holding a boom box which was actually the radio from Brave Little Toaster. It was all very disney fied, super funny. Yes, so what you were talking about coming

up next is tail Spin? Oh, yeal tail Spin. I don't know why. I was thinking. You're singing Killer Tofy from Killer, almost the same song. Wait if you do, um, I need more allowance, your lady. Oh, this is such

a nine. We're such nineties kids, It's perfect well. Tail Spin was set in the fictional city of Cape Zuzette Cape Cape Suzette, which and it first aired in It was actually a preview on Disney Channel and then later became a part of the Disney Afternoon block of course, it's based off of the nineteen seven animated feature The Jungle Book with its characters. The name of the show is a play on tailspin, which is actually when you

have a rapid descent of an aircraft and a deep spiral. Uh. And the series, which was largely developed by writers Jim Megan and Mark Zaslov, the Tailspin sort of pilot it did. They did a movie first, They did like a full movie that was I mean epic in scope. It's this really big TV movie that then is broken up into like two to four parts. Was it's four parts? Did

they do four episodes out of it? Or three? But it's this phenomenal, like very epic, almost like the beginning of Batman, the animated series, like just massive set piece of a of a thing, I like the lightning strikes the plane that they're just this incredible And it's based on a TV show. Did you know that Tailspin. It's called like Tail of the Golden Monkey, which was like a random Indiana Jones rip off, Like, so hail Spin rips off Tail of the Golden Monkey, which ripped off

Indiana Jones. But then they also ripped off Jungle Books. So Tailspin just as like this amalgamation of four different things. Well, there's actually more than that, because it was inspired by Cheers and that's why, um they created the character of Rebecca, who's based on the character of Rebecca how Um. And and they also made they change Mowgli because they needed you know, these are talking. They wanted it to be all bears or animals, and so then they replaced Mowgli

with Kit. He's a little like I'm the I'm the I'm the nineties cool kid with the backwards cap. Remember the foil thing that he would then fly on, right, He had this like it was like a hoverboard, but it didn't hover. He would just flip it open. It looked like a fan and he would hang out the back and he'd be able to cook skysurf on this foil board. God, if we only had all the stuff that they had in the movies and TV shows. Yeah,

just a couple of other things about it. So they one of their primary locations that they use was inspired by Rick Blaine's bar in Casablanca, where they inserted the character of Louis in place of Rick. And then the decision to add shere Khan to the cast was actually not made until later in the show's development, and they took a lot of inspiration from Hio Miyazaki, as did everybody in like every animated show or movie ever. But about a pig where his what is the name of this, Yeah,

it's inspiration for him zak um manga ji. Yeah, about a pig headed man who flies a seaplane and fights air pirates. That sounds like more than inspiration. Sounds like they're just doing it. But then up next, IFFI, what do we have Up next? We have dark Wing Duck. Let's get dangerous dark Wing Duck. Another thing that was happening in a lot of these intros was it was very soulful for but yeah, dark Wing Duck, which everyone thought was a spinoff from Duck Tails, but they the creator,

Tad Stones, stated that the two shows exist. He believes that the two shows exist in different universes. Not anymore because Duck Tails the new one brought back out dark Wing that was that was the big thing. And oh my god, I forgot Gosling. Yes that she's Latina. I love that. They just like make and you know, we'll take it. We'll take whatever we can nab. I'm not even kidding. I forgot when that came out. I think it was with this new this new batch of duck Tails.

Uh yeah, this season. And she used she's a Latina now, and we're like, okay, we'll take Gosling. I just imagine the creator of Dark Wing Duck denying that they exist in the same universe because he was fed up, like, no, no, it's not the same. Okay, it's different. I get it, launch Pad, but it's different, like like that, just very irritated response or no, no no, no, that's not what I meant. Okay,

just leave me alone about it's not the same. Oh yes, I remember Gosline Mallard uh, which is funny because she almost has like that Elvira color scheme. Oh yeah, no if you look at like old Gosling and then look at her now. Yeah, they fully leaned in and she is literally brown, straight up brown. Yeah, she's from Latin America. Um so and Francisco. Oh yeah that makes sense. Um yeah, So anyways, we have a new Latina duck. Uh what else? So duck Tails, you know it had a launch pad mcquack.

I keep want to call him McQueen um launch pad mcquack. As well as Gizmo Duck appearing in you know episodes One Wheeled Guy that that futuristic he was cool that they're not they're a multiverse. Yeah, they're They're were. They definitely were building something with the Duck versus because they seemed close enough yet only dabbled. And I don't know if we mentioned this, but dark Wing Duck his real name is Drake Mallard. You know, he has to keep

his uh identity secret. Having the kid was tough for him. It was it was a challenge to balance the that that work life balance was difficult for him. I think Pizza Hut did like a kid's thing with dark Wing Duck. I remember getting like a whole packet of When I was a kid, I was obsessed with being a detective. I loved reading The Hardy Boys. I loved anything where

there was a mystery to solve. So Dark Wing Duck, I want to say it was Pizza Hut had some sort of detective package where you'd get, you know, something to decode and a little notepad, and like all of these little detective things, the decoder is really starting to speak to something in me. So I think that is true because especially like back in the nineties, you had like lots of crossover stuff. Because I'll never forget that

Pizza Hut. We're giving out vhs of the X Men animated show, and I had the one which was the essentially the pilot episode. Um, and then you had the POGs they were they had the X Men pog. So I was surprised if they had the Dark Wing duck you know detective. Oh, yeah, here it is, this is this is what they gave out. It was the Pizza Hut box. They had the cups. Oh yeah, like that folder in the back. I remember there was a goal. There's detective stuff in the folder. So it was like

a case file almost. Yeah, no, that's solid, very very cartoon film noir. So this was the first Disney Afternoon show to really emphasize action rather than adventure, with Dark Wing and routinely engaging in slapstick battles with supervillains and street criminals. It was the first Disney Afternoon property that was produced completely as a jo Unrad parody making fun of the other ones. Prior shows would contain elements of parody in some episodes, but his was like straight up

um supposed to be comedy um. By contrast, every episode of Dark Wing Duck is laden with references to superhero pop culture or superspy fiction. Dark Wing Duck himself is a satirical character. His costume, gas gun, and flashy introductions are all reminiscent of Golden Age superheroes such as The Shadow, the Sandman, Duck Savage, Batman, the Green Hornet, and Julia Shortz's flash as well as the Lone Ranger. That's the big one for me, the Lone Ranger in Zoro. I

would say those are like dead ringers. So um. Also, the fictional city of St. Cernard is a direct parody of Gotham City. I love I love this idea that that was their parody because at the same time you're seeing tiny toon adventures and then you're seeing Animani actually pump up their parody, their satire, and I my first reaction was to ask if we thought it was a

response to what they were doing. But then if you think about how we are right now, like that was probably just what was going on at that time, Like the way we're all creating very similar things in different spaces, they were probably all just right. It's the same Hollywood writers at some point going for one, but they didn't get the job on Animaniacs, but they had similar ideas. They're like, well, yeah, I got I got the job on Dark Wing Ducks. So we're just gonna do a

whole parody of the superhero on Dark Wing Duck. It's many great, he uses oral mask. We are now Yeah, Well, what's fascinating is I figured that this would be making fun of Batman the Animated Series, but it premiered before Batman the Animated Series. I mean literally with him standing there, he looks like, you know, like with his kepe and whatnot, Like he looks like he's doing the Batman thing where he's like standing over the city of Gotham. I mean

that opening. The opening credits definitely have the cape shot with it like blowing in the wind on top of them. So wait, did Batman the Animated Series take from Dark Wing Duck? And I'm just kidding, Please don't tweet at us. We have to take another a quick break. We're going to hop into the rest of this afternoon block right after this Welcome back to Nerdificent, and you know it's time to get a little goofy because we're gonna talk

about goof Troop. Goof Troop. You had an interesting take on it because you were saying you liked, uh, the Goofy movie, but goof Troop kind of felt a little different. I mean it totally feels different. It's still fun, but when you have something like a Goofy movie, which is iconic, it just doesn't feel quite the same. Um. Also, the character designs are a little bit different. So but well, it's interesting because it's like this show does predate Goofy movie.

So I think it did the thing that Simpsons movie did worst, like we're going to do the animation better, We're gonna bring a little more heart into it. But I think Goofy movie did is so good. That was like, actually, this is you've kind of like carved out these characters in a different way, you know, whereas like you have, like I don't know, like Goofy and Max's relationship in a Goofy movie does feel way more mature than it does in the show. So the show or the movie

came first? Is the show came first? Wow? I in my head it was the opposite. Yeah. Also, like he's he is younger, Like Max looks younger, and um, you're not polished. Like he looks like he's in middle school as opposed to in or elementary school. To be honest, he looks like he's like elementary school, middle school, and then in a Goofy movie he's very much a teenager. Yeah, so goof Troop was essentially following the relationship between single father Goofy and his son Max. I don't mean to

laugh at this. It just sounds way more serious than it was. I have something good for that. This is perfect because this is this relates directly to my experience of Troop. So this was this comes out right around the time my parents legitimately get divorced and my dad moves out. And so when I talked about all these blocks, like I remember the pilots, I remember that the very I was excited for goof Troop at the TV show, and that was one thing that my father made short

of tape at his house. So we watched that pilot a few times. And that's why I thought there were two episodes that were aired the first time it came out, because we watched him a bunch, but it was legitimately, and then the Goofy movie comes out and it's this this parallel of like, my parents are divorced, my father and I don't have this relationship in bond that we want, and we're trying to figure it out, and here's this TV show in this movie that's trying to help us

figure it out. Didn't really help. I can't. It doesn't end well. It takes takes years for us to take until takes until I make a TV show for him to finally accept me. But anyway, that's a different story. Finally said he was proud of me, and only now

I know how much is love costs? But but Google, but but goof Troop really kind of hit that like a single father TV show, and that like single fathers and sons I think sometimes get almost under explored in that relationship and that kind of bond a father and

son and one who's kind of a strange. And that's why Goofy movie, I think is so emotional because you see Goofy trying to relate to his son, but you clearly understand that the son is a teenager and trying to make his own way, but they can't really come together. It's so note perfect that they I feel like they may have experimented on the TV show and then somebody was like, no, no no, if we really want to get heart out of this, this is what it's really like.

I'm going through a divorce right now. Guys. Let me tell you never look, Yeah we would. I would try to take him camping. Let me tell you, try to take him camping with a lot of possums, and then we have Oh. This is one of my favorites is Bonkers. I love Bonkers because in my fan fiction, in my fan fiction head I always pretend that Jessica Rabbit had an affair with Bonkers. That's very much her type. Goofy. She's in an open relationship with Roger I guess, not

cheating on him. She's Wow, there's another show called Bonkers. There should be only one. Bonkers was a cop? Yeah he is? Uh so, now that he's trying to run for president, I think we have to Bonkers was a cop. He's a bobcat. He's bonkers d bobcat. He actually was. This is even worse if he because he was washed out of show business and became a cop. That's the worst. That's like an open my comic, like not making it

and then deciding to be a police officer. So Bonkers was made the junior partner of Detective Lucky Um, a grim and ill tempered human who hates tunes. Wow. What a weird pairing. Throughout the series, the hair work together to solve crimes in Hollywood. I don't know why it's so funny, because it is there. It does kind of have like a Roger Rabbit sque kind of feel to it. Yeah, this is this is one of the shows where I started, Like I said, goof Troop was where it started to

crest for me. I was aware of Bonkers and I'd watch it occasionally, but it didn't resonate. Yeah. I will say that every once in a while when when I'm feeling disillusioned about the industry, I do think I think about being a cop, like like that's the obvious from show based from creativity to law Enforced. Every every time I go into me, it was like, if they don't buy this pitch, I'm becoming a counter bomb. One more audition. Wow,

I just saw on here. At the end of the Lucky episodes, Bonkers was given a new partner, the attractive officer Miranda Right of course, although also listen, although also human, because of course she is and still like you know, bony or boneable by him. She was far more patient and tolerant of his antics. With Miranda Bonkers was more the brunt of the slapstick. Well, okay, that makes sense, but also like, why are these human women? People get mad?

But Jessica Rabbit is literally a human. She's a tune human that's sleeping with a rabbit. Anyways, I digress. There's another show on here, Iffy that I've actually never seen me either. It's called schnook Ms and Meet funny cartoon show. It wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't my favorite. I am aware of snookums and me. This was this was at the point so if this is what years this is right,

it's ninety four that that one comes out. I'm ten years old, and it's this is one of those things where it's like it's more geared towards my younger sister, who's probably four at the time, and so it would be on she'd be watching it or I'd spent some time with her doing that. That was this is when the block starts to get more towards my sister's favorite stuff.

And I'm like all right, I'm ten years old. Let me watch more Saved by the Bell or let me go watch Monday Night Raw, or the New York Knicks are playing in the finals this year. This is four I'm watching. I'm watching the New York Knicks in the Houston Rockets. Patrick Ewing at the same Absolutely, absolutely, this was definitely an error. This is wild because I'm looking at the art for this show and there's no way that it wasn't inspired by which it was hoping to

compete with. Ye I was competing with. But I just looked it up and it's not the creator of So I'm like, why does it look so much that like it? Okay, literally the art and the way that they spell their the lettering is done, like, um, I do remember this. So it was essentially a cat named Schnook ms uh and a dog named Meat who did not get along very well. What an odd pairing. Their owners are unseen stock characters only viewed from the neck down. Very Tom

and Jerry s um, yeah, so I do. This reminds me also of two stupid dogs. If anyone remembers two stupid dogs, love it. So yeah, we have the Shnook comes and Meat I guess if you're a fan of that, let us know, just watched it. This was the venture into that like weird, off beat stuff like it, and

I say, I get it. In the vein of if Ren and Stimpy makes waves, someone's going to either be inspired by or have a similar take or come along with something that's secondarily like it, but probably didn't do as well because it was not in the right part, like you that is not in the Adventure Action block of Disney. I don't know if that was their demo. And at this point, what's it following, because you're turning from a father and Sun trying to get along to

two abstract characters in a weird world. Yeah, and it's it was very weird and edgy and and on Nickelodeon they had Read and Snimpy, but they also had all real monsters, which was gross. You know. It was like armpit hair and farts and like you know. And then the rugrats were which would do a lot of those close ups, you know, and uh so those were all kind of like weird. Then we have Gargoyles. Gargoyles which

originally aired October until February. If you can't tell it follows a species of nocturnal creatures known as gargoyles that turned to stone during the day. And this is this is weird because they are also playing different shows on different days, so you're not getting the same block all week.

They're breaking up like some are on Tuesdays and summer on Fridays, and you had to watch them on certain days, right because like X Men wasn't coming out every day, so that was only a few times a week Gargoyles. And I didn't love Gargoyles. It wasn't I didn't love it. Who's the hot gargoyle chick that everyone wanted to bang? Oh? Wait, um, Demona?

Is it Demona or Demonic? I mean also, like you remember, all the gargoyles had like kind of shredded clothes, so it just like unintentionally made her look way hotter than she was supposed to be. It was also relatively dark tone, so again it was kind of different. It received a lot of comparisons to Batman, the animated series, which had now been out for a couple of years. Another thing

about Gargoyles, I guess their backstories. After spending thousand years in an enchanted, petrified state, the Gargoyles who have been transported from medieval Scotland. Are we are reawakened in modern day. Where do you think New York City where every almost cartoons with crime fighting take place. Um, they become the city's secret nighttime protectors. Well that's great because there's so many other people protecting New York City, like um, spider Man,

and that's the show I want to see. I want to see Superman, Batman, Spiderman. I want to see all of the superheroes getting in each other's way. The Gargoyles show up like everyone's just like, dude, come on, I got this one. Hey, I just butt heads. Well they have that. It was the Marvel Netflix block, which was Daredevil, Luke Cage. They were all in the same city. They

were all in Hell's kitchen. For the next one, I just want to lump them together because they're of the same ilk in my brain, which was the Aladdin animated series and the Lion Kings Tamone and Puma, which then led to the line Guard, which is the one that came on that I was talking about, which are just spin offs from the movie. I feel like they you know, they're they're good for you know when you were a kid, but looking back on him, weren't as impactful. Quackpack good

should have been sorted. I mean this came later, but should have been sorted with duck tails. This time it's uh, Donald Duck hanging with his nephews. But you know, tons of cameos from Scrooge launch Pat mcquack. The reason I'm blasting through those ducks is because I wanted to land on these ducks which were actually important to me, which were the Mighty Ducks, the animated series, which had nothing to do with the Mighty Duck at all because they

were literal ducks. Yeah, they were literal ducks. Yeah. So it was inspired by the live action Mighty Ducks films. Uh and the in n h L team Anaheim Duck Boo Go Kings uh um. But yeah they but they it was real cool, like these buff ducks who played hockey. That was pretty much the show. Uh. But it was so funny because this came out so close to the Mighty Duck movies that like, at first you thought it was gonna be about the movie and it was like, no,

just buff ducks together. They did everything in the world to capitalize on those movies. The idea they ended up changing the name of the team is insanity when you think, like a major sports franchise changed the name of a team for a a kid's movie Ye starring Amelio Estevez. What was the name of the team before? I think did they start a new I think it might have been an expansion team. It was either that or they took over a team and changed the name that I I

forget which didn't was which is good? Like good to know that it's oh my god, you're so right. The team the movie, not the other way of Anaheim, were founded in by the Walt Disney Company. They were like, the movies did so well, we should start an actual team. But this is I think where the team didn't do well. If you look at the original jersey designs, it's all the stuff that we know of, like from the movie. But they should have just gone with those original green jerseys,

like those green sweaters that they were first. Where if they came out and that we would have all been down. But they did this like purple list ruin ish purple and green. This like earth toned with the weird face masks. Oh look at this dirty. This is how dirty sports are so the franchise was awarded by the NHL in December, along with the rights to a Miami team that would

become the Florida Panthers. An interest and entrance fee of fifty million was required, half of which Disney would pay directly to the Los Angeles Kings in order to share

Southern California. I did not know the Ducks are completely based on a freaking movie, like and we we know now what it takes to start a franchise, a sports franchise, and maintain the sports franchise, getting arena built for a sports franchise, all of the the other and and Disney was just simply like the movies did, well, why not

why not make an actual team? People would like that how much money Disney had back then for them to be like, yeah, you know what it was like if those bought the Detroit Lions for the Lion King Michaelis was, well, girls, like, well, why don't we make a hockey team? Man? Oh, come on, I mean, still a better idea than the XFL. And with that, yeah, I was gonna know someone's kind of tweet out to be like, why didn't you go in depth in the gargoyles, gargoyles and go over every single character.

That is because we will do that on another episode, but today it was nice to reminisce about the original nineties tune block. Yes, and thank you so much for talking about it with us. Eddie, where can people find you? Thanks for having me. Guys find me on Instagram at I m Eddie Firth on Twitter at Eddie Firth. Tomorrow Night. If you guys are listening to this on Tuesday Tomorrow Night, Wednesday, November PM, Historical Roast is celebrating its five year anniversary

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be doing some cool episodes coming up. We're really excited for the new year, and we've heard you all about expanding on some of these topics because it's a little bit hard. You know, we're gonna get like an hour or so with our guests to go into it. So some we'll be revisiting some episodes. We'll be adding some really big ones that we haven't been able to talk about yet. I know some people are like, why haven't you tackled this because it would take five days, which

is fine. Guess what, We're going to start taking five days with multi partner episodes, so prepare for that. It's gonna be fun. And nobody tweet us that they're tired of that topic. Um, if you get five weeks of it, you're gonna get five weeks of it. Um or just

do it depends, but we heard you. Also, we'll be expanding on a lot of these huge topics that have been really difficult to kind of tackle down into just one episode, so like you know, um, and we could do an episode on every Twilight Zone episode ever, So we'll do that. Um, just kidding, but I already do that in my brain. As we always say, stay nerdy.