Hello, welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I'm one half of your host, Janny Fernandez. Sitting across from me as always is if you want to how's everybody doing. Your shirt says big Death Energy. I love it. Yeah. Yeah,
this is by Void merch Store. It's also he's a friend of ours and he also, you know, happens to make cool shirts and this he had, um like it was death Energy was the original shirt and everybody Ben McShane was wearing it, and I was like, oh, that shirt should say big Death Energy, and um he tweeted that I said that, and then the guy was like hmm, and I was like, well, you make it, I'll buy it, And so I kept my word. I should have sent
it to you. I still think we need to make you one that says big Dad Energy, Big Dad Energy. If you remember you said that same thing about a Tesla. You make it, I'll buy it. Did you end up getting that? No? I didn't because I like backed out when back when Musk was being all crappy and I was like, oh, I'm not going to support this, but then like now I'm seeing him, I'm like, you know, how good was John Horando or tom Ford. They were all pieces of On the other Mike is our friend.
He has the most listened to episode of Nerdificence still to days. Uh. He is the host at d C Daily. He's also a host at Nerdict geakon Sunjury. He just was announced as a host on el Ray Network, Robert Rodriguezz Network. He is actually everywhere at all times. That is Hector NAVARROH my gosh, thank you guys so much for having me back. It was so much fun to come and do that first episode. And I just want to give a personal shout out to my hero, stand
up comedian Tony Baker. Tony, if you're listening, yeah, and he told me that you liked that episode. I just want to say, I'm a fan. Man, You're awesome. Hit me up, come on do one of my shows. And she had about stuff. Yeah, Tony Baker is great. If you guys aren't following Tony Baker comedy, follow him, get a stand up special, get at him because he's gonna blow up. I just gave him total free promotion because he's the best. So yeah. He's also the film It's
a Partying that features yours truly. They all star studded cast lots of members of white women. It was written by white women's own Lamar Woods. Very excited, uh for for you to see that, if you decide to see it. We were just talking about you the other day, if because my friend Marina Mastress came over and we watched a movie and we were talking about the good old days, old house party. Yeah. I literally was on stream talking
about how I threw up on that snake. The energy energy in the ether, Yeah, the ether, one of the Infinity stones. God, you just can't get away from it. Wait, Hector, can you tell people what I'm wearing yet? Dope? This this super dope. You're wearing a dragon ball Z like really cool design sweatshirt thing. It's got cool like Japanese like lettering, like comic book lettering, manga lettering on the sides, and the design with all the character you got Goku
flying at you go Han vegeta krillin piccolo. But then like the thing around it looks kind of very eighties and almost like a wrestling ring. Yeah, I notice, but it's not. But it's cool. I believe that. Is that a sweater? Is that a long sleeve T shirt? It's a long sleeve shirt. Yeah, but they have sent me. Yeah, I have a couple of I have a Badman one of Vegeta. My friends at Fundimation hooked me up. You know it's awesome. Um, Hector, what are you seeking out
about this way? I'm geaking out about a directive video movie that just came out on Blu Ray, but it's also been out on digital for a little bit, and they just put it on today. They put it on DC Universe as well. I'm talking about a cartoon movie by Bruce tim and the Gang superhero DC movie called Justice League Versus the Fatal Five. I watched it. I dug it. It was like a reunion. A bunch of great voice actors came back. Kevin Conroy was Batman, Susan
Eisenberg was wonder Woman, George Newburne was Superman. These are the characters and actors that were in the Justice League cartoon show that I remember growing up. A bunch of new great characters. Mr. Terrifics in it. MS Martian, Jessica Cruz, Green Lantern and it's her movie and it's awesome. Yeah that on my Instagram. I dug it, So watch it if you haven't seen it yet. And I was also really happy that um I was on one of the
special features. They asked me to come in and talk about representation and superhero stories and and a lot of what I talked about ended up in this little special feature, and it like got me really emotional because I was like, I grew up on this stuff. I talked about John Stewart Green Lantern from Justice League. I talked about writer Dwayne McDuffie and his work. I talked about why representation matters and stuff like that. So that's what I'm geeking
out about. I went and bought the Blu Ray so stoked. I think they were also on Talking Tunes, right, Yeah, Well that was like the all of the o G Justice League cast, which included like Phil Lamar, like uh uh Rosenbaum who does a flash like they all came back.
But that's this is not fully formed reunion, not yet, but some of the main people came and reprised their roles and hopefully this thing gets enough traction where like Warner Bro There's and the Powers that Be can be like, you know what, let's let's bring everybody back and let's do let's do like a new show or like a new movie or something. People fans have been gunning for that for years. Jail reunion hashtag jail reunion. Yeah, that'd be nice. That would be nice. I think a lot
of people. That's one thing I will always give to d C. I feel like, you know, I give them a lot of crap on their cinematic universe. Animation. Animation has always been listen so on point. We're talking about the m CU tonight, but I will go on record saying right now, the greatest shared universe of all time in pop culture history is the DC animated universe that started from Batman the animated series, going all the way to Justice League Unlimited and now kind of including this
movie is still the best. They kind of did it first. There's so much good stuff in there. I'll go on record saying that. But I love the m c U Man animation. It's not just because I'm a company boy, because because it's so funny, because you're kind of locked in, but like it's like people will be like, Hector hates d C. Hector loves DC. Hector I'm sure I have to remembers because he got a lot of hate as soon as he got hired. I remember that. I think
I had to send a check in text like you good. Yeah. I was like, yeah, man, thank you so much. Because I have most of those fools blocks. So when people are like you are you okay? I was like, I'm literally not seeing what you're just having like the best day. I'm like, you're like, hey, I was just announced as a host, and we're like, okay, over there, keep doing there's real ugly stuff being said about you. I'm like, I don't know, okay things, Yeah, I can't see it
at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think what I'm thinking about as as of today, April six, it's you know, checking in on that day. No, it's we're in the future. But yeah, but I'm saying as of today. So people are like, why if he talking about this that was last week, but as of today, the PS five, you know, Sony came out and like dropped some info about what's gonna come with it. We're we're talking, you know. They the big I think with the coolest things that they
had was was ray tracing. That's that's gonna be a big thing, which if you're not aware of what ray tracing is, it's a it's basically a rendering technique for generating an image, and you're tracing the path of light as pixels in an image plane and simulating the effects of its encounters with virtual objects, so it comes out way smoother, way cleaner. And this is something that was actually recently introduced with the rt X cards that g
fource dropped. So in another space, Uh, consoles are finally getting what PC player has been thanking. Yeah, but it's still cool because one of the things I you know, when you do the math, it's always going to be cheaper to snack a console than to buy a PC. I will always champion that and say it's worth it in the end. And I think one of the other ways the big ways you save money in PC gaming
that you is when you buy stuff on console. If you buy it in the console store, the prices rarely change if you go to game stop even buying it used, it's not that much of a difference, where like what Steam you have Steam sales where you're getting like triple
A games for almost like five bucks regularly. It's an annual thing two times a year, the Steam the summer sale, the Winter sale, so you make that money back in the long haul, and everyone knows both console peasants and PC master race people agree it looks way better because you can crank that thing up. It does call the nickname for console people is console peasants. Who created that nickname? PC? Right? Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna change every now it's actually console badasses,
Console badasses. But that's cool. That's cool. Yeah, So anyway, so even console peasants can that. But no, but there's a lot of cool things they're adding to this that gets me excited just because I like the idea of just the advancement of consoles. Because even though I'm on PC now, that's where I started, and that's where a lot of kids are going to start, you know, not that many people are lucky to have parents who are gonna build them tricked out PCs, not to mention be
able to build the PCs. So I'm always excited for advancement. And you're also going to get solid state drives, which is a kind of faster than a hard disk drive, way faster, so the load times should be out of this world. And it's going to have a custom a m D rising uh CPU, which everyone's excited about. But I'm still an Intel fanboy and think you could have just kind of tweaked that and got a little more out of it. But Rising is nothing to mess with, and the next gen is about to drop this year,
so we'll see what's gonna pop when that pops. Okay, the thing that I am geeking out about is this past week we had Star Wars celebration, which was so dope to see so many fans excited. There were two huge moments. I mean, there's so many things that happened, but there were two huge moments that really stuck out for me. One was when Kelly Marie Tran was announced and everybody was chanting Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. It was so great.
I mean, for someone that had to delete her social media due to the amount of abuse that she was receiving, to just have all of these fans, you know, that really outnumbered. That was just so beautiful. Um Our friend h if your friend Christopher Smith Bryant, who was on our lgbt Q episode, is like best friends with Kelly, and like, I know that he like sends her stuff because she's not on social media, so that's nice. I'm sure her other friends do too, because me and uh Hector,
we're always she was deep in the improv community. She was so after white women came out, and you know, I feel very confident uh speaking this because it's true as hell. After white women came out, there were a lot of all blank you know, thank you so much, and we were very happy about yeah. Yeah. So then that's how you had Heraldough, you had um and then the team she was on was yellow either and so it was an all Asian team, and then you had Essence, which was the all black women team. Uh, and so
like that's that's how we knew her. So it was funny though, because it's always interesting when you see something from a comedy side, because she was just kind of like on her grind outside of comedy, but you're just like, oh, she's she's you know, so it really did. It was like seeing her at a impromp show and then she liked stars. Yeah. It was insane, Yeah, it was. It was crazy. But always I emailed her after the like whole like Onslaught thing, and she was like she was
like like it was days later. So I was like, she must be getting emails from everyone, and she was like, thank you, you've always been great. Uh uh, tell everyone on their difficent to buy your comedy album, Like that's what she said, exactly, That's exactly what she said. It was so it was so great seeing her in all of her glory at Star Wars celebration. And then another thing that happened this week is that I don't know if you saw this, but um, a guy that goes
by the name the Eric Butts, who is a YouTuber. Yeah, so he posted his reaction to watching the new trailer where he was crying and everybody was really not everybody, but there were some people that were that had big accounts that were like making fun of him and being like this is so cringe eer like wow, um, you know it seemed like it was one yeah Republican, right lord? Is that the right? Yeah? Essentially that was like, yeah, being I can't say, we can't say, I can't say
what I want to say because we're censored. But anyways, and so and that to me was so horrible, Like I wrote him back and I just said, you know, there's so much pain and horror in the world that like to be excited about anything anymore is a joy. And like we grew up with these fandoms, they mean so much to us. They literally shaped my career. I know they shaped everyone's career that's in here, and including his.
So I said, like, keep being passionate. You know his emotions were beautiful and that we outweigh the bad and we always will. Um. So, I just I hate that that is when people say, like like toxic masculinity, that it's like such a thing that people hate that word. Apparently that really triggers them, but for me, it's like, no, that's exactly what you that can't handle Seeing a man cry is disturbing, Like you're disturbing not or even to put to put other stuff like politics or sports or
whatever above like movies and comic books. Do you know what I mean? That's also toxic masculiness to be like you're into comic books, you should be into this because you're a man or whatever. Like that's like that he's not allowed to express himself and his emotions for something that he grew up with. So anyways, I thought it was really beautiful and like Mark Hamill tweeted at him and oh yeah, I was like Mark Cambell was like, I don't understand why you would make fun of this
guy who is like clearly passionate about this. Um, it's so great? Is everybody responding to her? She's her like tweet has like, oh she's gotten what the kids called ratio ratio great? Yeah, and know here's my quick bounce on that before we just jump into this because this is probably gonna be a long one. But I think that was an important thing. I don't think there's anyone
should be bad about it. That's exactly what toxic masculinity is and what everyone wants to complain about, not at the appropriate time where this is the appropriate time to talk about this stuff, which is simply like you know, just even it removes Star Wars, remove anything like having just a man being able to be emotional, emotional enough to cry. It always seems like an issue and it's always like, oh, why why are you gonna cry? And
that's uh, that's that's it. That is, you know, without sounding too extreme, it is trying to pin up those emotions in this fake idea that you can't cry is what drives people crazy and make them kill people because you don't allow them too healthy to express their emotions in a healthy way. Eventually it comes out in an unhealthy way, and so chill is all that people can't see. But Hector has I was just gonna say, Danny, can
you describe what? Yes? Okay? Um, So Hector actually has flash cards like trading cards, trading cards of every character. I kid you, not every character that has ever appeared in the m c U, including side people that got killed in three seconds. Um, They're all here and he is placing them all out right now on our large desk. Um, so this is we have the ancient one I'm trying to look for, like a in the Alexander heres deceased. Oh yeah, and he has decimated next to Peter Parker. Um.
That is that what we're calling the destin. That's what Marvel's calling it is the decimation. Okay, well let's take a quick second before we jump into this. There's two things I want to do. First up top. You might be listening as wondering is this like another recap? It is like no, this is more of a hype episode as of right now this Friday. Mark. Well, I will um as you're listening to this, I saw it last night at the premiere in Case I died, And this is the last recording of my voice. I did I
did die out on top. So as of right now, this Friday End game is coming out and this is just us kind of talking about our favorite moments. Really just a hype episode, as you know, you know, you don't need a structure to everything. That's you know, that's that's that's what what fascist one? Uh true? This is just a pure hype episode and also just to catch
up and what better way. This is the perfect way to book in the last episode we did where we did run through each m c U. However, there were two movies that happened between the last episode We Have You and now, so before we even jump into our favorite moments, let's kind of talk about what happened and how we felt about them because because because because we're counting Infinity War two, because I guess, yeah, we didn't
talk about it, so three movies between that. So after our episode, Infinity War came out and that this was It's funny because I feel like everyone at this table had strong emotions about it. I were we in the did we watch it together? Danny? I think we watched it together. Yeah, yeah, you watched it before me and then again with I feel like I invited I have invited you to like every premiere, but you were you like had rooms you were writing it. Yeayeah, I know
I was busy. I'm not I'm not. I'm not trying to blast you or anything. I was just about asking. So I remember that movie was a wild ride that
the Infinity War was the morning I think about. It was such a wild ride and everything it introduced, I feel like it did flawlessly, and just the ending, even though you kind of felt something like that, like I didn't know the decimation was going to happen, but I knew something that would be such a huge cliff anger since they was gonna be two parts, was gonna happen.
And it happened, and even the way it happened kind of just shook everything up because they really did get us that you hit us with the debate there, because you get fans getting axed and we're like, oh, we actually did do it or did it yeah? And then it was like gotcha, snappy snap. It was, um, that movie is amazing and it's such a fun like and then at the end gets depressing, but it's still such
a fun ride, is how you put it. I think it's a perfect way to describe it, if because it's just like it's just a huge victory lab for Marvel. It's just them going look at ten years of characters that we built up that like, you care about a talking raccoon, you care about Ok, yeah, you just met her in the last movie. You just met and Baku in the last movie. You're gonna be stoked to see him show up, you know, on the field. And and it was it handled, It juggled characters and storylines so well.
It carried over tones from from previous movies like flor Ragrock, which you finally got around to scene and you did you dig it? Yeah? Of course great. So like that that tay t t sort of version of Thoor pretty much carried through into Infinity War. But it was also still like the Mighty like it. Not that Ragnock Thor is any different, but this was like that Thor and then all of his family gets killed at the beginning, and now now what are the stakes and what does
he have to deal with? Um? And it was um it was mind blowing and then easily became my favorite movie in the franchise thus far. Again, I don't think it's the best one. But you have to judge these movies on a couple of different things, and one of the things you cannot ignore is like they're all building
on one another. They're able to do a thing that not a lot of movie franchise is barely any in fact, are able to pull off so flawlessly, and even though they have flaws, they correct the course, correct and they just kind of keep going. So that, Yeah, Infinity War is not a normal movie. It is a movie that takes place after ten years of building one or two or three movies a year, building up characters, and then pulling off this thing too. Um. And it's an insane
cliffhanger there. They were going for the Empire strikes back, except instead of waiting three years, we're gonna a year. Yeah. So um, I thought it was the funny, one of the funniest movies. Yeah, Oh my god. All the characters parents, like, do you want to talk about introducing a new character. Here's e Tree, the dwarf, who's Peter Dinklage. When he showed up, that whole thing was like so sad but also hilarious when he's like, if you fail, you'll die He's like, only if i'm if I get if I die.
It's like, if you do this, you'll be killed. Only if I die, That's what killing you means. Like it was hilarious. Yeah, Like, what's cool to about this is someone who has read as many event crossovers and comics as much as I have, and to see where comic book movies like have tried and failed, where they kept making the misstep of trying to to make a comic book movie. And then I often say, this is like the failure a lot of comic book movies is you make a comboo movie, you got to choose a genre.
This was the first time I felt like a comic book movie. But it was all right because the one thing about these crossover events are you see these heroes who don't normally interact interacting this crossover. Like when you're reading Avengers versus X Men and you see, you know, Cyclops talking that smack with Steve Rogers, You're like, oh, crap, this is this is something that was supposed to be in my fan fix, and this is what we got.
In Infinity Wars. You've got to see Guardians of the Galaxy interact with Thor for the first time, and you and so like it was cool on that level, that level of a fan of the movies and a level of a fan of comics, because you're like, oh, this is that feeling of seeing these characters interact. But what's crazier, this is kind of out of the movie. Uh, it's just after this event happened just last weekend. Cors in town Danny and I was. I was hanging with her.
We walked in the Disney Store, which sidebar out of all this, were walked walking into the Disney stores. Insane right now, because you walk into the Disney Store and you see the princesses and you're like, check, got it? Then Star Wars and Marvel stuff and you're like, oh wait what, Oh yeah, y'all have all of this. Yeah, but they're gonna start selling X Men stuff and they're shape of water dolls. It's crazy. They it's going to be the fish button on everything. But what was crazy
was there was an infinitely Infinity Gauntlet. Mum, and I was like, someone's grandma knows what this is. And this was a weird thing that only dorks like me did. I tell you guys a story. We can't cuss on this podcast right now, but you have like ten times. I think, so sorry, but let me I'll censor myself. But I don't know. I don't think I shared this with you last time I was here because it was before Infinity War. But this is exactly what you're talking about.
If he this is what happened to me. The weekend that Avengers Infinity War was released, I get a text from my dad on Monday, my dad who text me, he goes, did Fanos really do that? And I'll texted back like, yeah, he did it, and then he text me back f Fanos. My dad texted my father, who was like fifty six years old Mexican guy, like knew with it. I have been around this comic book stuff since I was a kid. I'm sure that I had copies of you know, the comic book Infinity Gauntlet in
my house at some point. Would never ever be interested in that stuff. But even like my dad knows who that not only does he know who he is, he understands him and he dislikes him. That is the measure of success for me. That like exactly what you're describing, Like somebody's mom knows what the Infinity Gauntlet mug is our parents know this stuff, and it's wild, it's crazy. What's even crazier too, is there still some more stuff that needs to make you got the Illuminati? Who you
got me? What's that one of them? Yeah? Oh my god, Scarlett, which that might still happen, Dude, I swear to God if they do my what I want them to happen, which is the scarlet, which fixes everything, but then introduces mutants, just the reverse. Maybe too much. Yeah, let's go over the other movies and then we'll just kind of after Avengers Infinity War, Ant Man and the Wasp was all right, it was fun. It was it was a nest A Sery like John john t little heist movie. It was
a heist movie again. Yeah, so that slapped for me, and you know, and why because there's father daughter moments and father daughter movies now rank high for me. I loved it. It was great. Let me go hug Naomi after this, I didn't grab the little card. But my favorite thing about the movie was the villain. Ghost character.
Great character, great villain, maybe not reaching the heights of a killmonger or vulture, but like, she was different and it's not typical that we saw somebody dealing with chronic pain, and then her and her dad's story, and then Bill Foster coming in Laurence Fishburne like helping her. All that stuff was great. That stuff was a highlight. I wanted more Luise so that the movie was just like all right from me. I was like, listen, by now you
should have put Louise in the soup. And do you see do you see Patton Oswald's tweet that like if if Endgame doesn't start with Louise, just like recapping everything that happened the last ten years, everybody, Oh my gosh. By the way, if I want to talk about Louise, and I want to talk about Michael Pinion because if you haven't noticed, Observe and Report has made its way
back on Netflix, and it's so funny. But to see Michael Pinion that and to see him mid Louise, it's like, not only is it beautiful to see just like the different you know abilities, but also just the scope of Latin X representation where it's like, you know, it was funny and it worked for the movie, and they you know, they didn't like lean too heavily on stereotypes, but it kind of was like all right, whereas like it's almost like Luis and his character and observing report, we're kind
of the same person. But this one was like the top of your intelligence version where it's like yeah, you know, it was yeah, yeah, it's like these are both criminals who are who Well, here's the way I'll say it. One is a Mexican criminal and one is a criminal who happens to be Mexican. That's what it felt for those two roles, where it seems like like the jokes would be gone if he didn't do the accent and he wasn't, whereas like this it is like he didn't
need an accent. It just was a part of who he is, and then they wanted to flip that imagery on his head by making him this very cultured person. But also like for the movie, the type of movie it was at the time, I'm not also not trying to dunk on it. You know, it's very hard to h it's like, yeah, you know, like I thought he was hilarious and it and it was so good, but it's so interesting to see, like you know, even when you go back and look at certain like black rolls
and you're like, no knocking it, you know. But it's crazy that like we go so much further now, you know, and we get to see him as Dora's dad. Oh my god, let me talk about that, because Danny was going hard for Dora. And I saw it live when it released because I was at the Kid's Choice Awards, and it was so funny because like, well, here's the thing. I didn't have internet reception, so like when they set this movie was coming, I was like, oh man, they
don't watch the trailer. And I'm in there getting hype with the kids, like hell, yeah, this is great. And to go out and all these kids are loving it. Like I'm in there with real kids. It's not fake kids in there. It's a real kids. So to see me and all these kids hyped about this movie that come out and see adults, man, he was like, dude, shut up, it ain't for you. Me and the kids we're in it. And also to see a fully fleshed out Latin X family on screen. Why do you mad
at that? How you mad? Because they're obnoxious? I just I mean, I tweeted. I was like, no one cares that It's not for you. Go pay your taxes, like I mean, seriously, I'm over it. And also like in my community and like, you're going to support this because we're not gonna keep getting these if you if you don't support it, I'm sorry. It's the truth like that. I mean, I'm an actual like I'm actually pitching things.
I'm in these meetings, in these studio meetings, I'm meeting with showrunners and meeting with Latin X showrunners, and we talked to each other and we're like, look, it is very important. It is so hard. The thing that comes back to us all the time in these meetings is,
y'all don't have a bank Abolt star. They say, until all the time, you'all don't have a star that you all will go out and go see and we'll argue about that, but the truth is is that if we don't go out and see these movies, they will, like, it's harder for the rest of us in this that are trying to get these our stories out. So at least this has like a name like Nickelodeon behind it. I really don't care how you feel about it, so you don't need it at me. Um, I'm going to
support it. I'm getting my I'm getting my stuff sold. There we go. I'm working with awesome, great Latino showrunners and filmmakers, so I'm really excited. But we are actually on the front lines of like trying to get it so that y'all can have more of more films. Yeah, it's I think it's telling that if you said that you were like experiencing with kids, they were stoked about it, because to me, those kids are not on the internet.
The only people voices were hearing on the Internet are like adult grown men that are in their thirties and forties complaining about a thing that looks like it's either not for them, like it's either too dumb down or
trying to be something that it's not. And you you know that that's all bs because if they really cared about the sanctity of the i P, they would have been complaining in two thousand seven when Transformers came out and it was like ugly and homophobic and sexist and racist and made optimist primer murderer and all this all the stuff that like, like you have the Transformers movie franchise excluding Bumblebee, has turned into a thing that's like a joke like, I'm watching the movie the show The
Good Place, and there's a joke in there about how in the Bad Place they'll give you deodorant that's acts body spray that's flavored that the flavor is Transformers, and the joke is you sprayed on and it makes you smell the way Transformers movies make you feel. So somebody or later smell it and they're like, oh, why am I confused? And everything is loud, and like that's become
a joke. So if the people on the internet were really cared about caring about like oh, doors shouldn't be made into like a tomb Rad or knockoff Dora the Explorer should be for kids or whatever, they would have been complaining about Transformers. But they weren't because that movie was marketed towards them, which is like older dudes, and it's like, well, then you didn't stop because it's not
about you. It's not about you. Well, I don't want to say for people that like look at it and people that people I had some people tweat at me like it just doesn't look good. I'm like, I can I swear to God if I were to show this to my niece right now. She would not think that at all because they don't have the same like they
don't think the same way that we do. Also, it does, I think it does the you know, it does a good job of trying to do what it does, which is taking a source material and then getting creative with it. Like I think we I think we often forget how often that's done. Like Fast and Furious wasn't the first. It was based off of this super old movie called Fast and Furious, which I'm sure is nothing like the franchise. It's just a jumping off point in a bass pad
and I'm very and like watching it. It did seem like fun cute and funny because it is like treating the main character as if she was Dora from Dora. They explore and so like there seems like yeah, like seeing her interact with humans and stuff. It was real cute and funny. Like I don't but um, I'll say this, like I say, every time this subject has brought up,
negativity is more bankable than positive activity online. So everyone's looking for the disc, you know, like like, what is the funny disk that's gonna give me lots of retweets? They tried this and this, and then it made a billion dollars. We're gonna stop making videos about audio media on on YouTube. I'm holding up a picture of Carol Dann also made a billion dollars. A billion dollars. Everyone knows Hector has been punctuating his statements with some characters
that it's not about you. And I held up a picture of the ancient one from that no one saw. But yeah, no, this is let's yeah, we have one more movie. Think homely Moly, I was. I loved it so cool much. I mean everyone had like certain gripes, but there are certain things that made me love it so much. Like that moment at the end, I mean,
at this point, you know we're in Sportler Country. Listen where she stands out the moment which where she I think the moment after that when that guys like all right Manamano, which is such a classic movie trope, and her just blasting him, I'm like, thank you, because every time that happens in that movie, I just want that to happen, and also for it to also have this meaning because you know that that was like a spoiler that was just definitely mirroring all this, all those like
all right, guys to AOC talking about debate me, It's like, no, I have nothing to prove to you. I'm in office, you're a TV talking head. What what do I get out of debating you. I think it's pretty cool to see a big movie, superhero movie like this. The past couple of movies have provided me with some of my favorite movies and favorite moments. Um. I've been rewatching stuff like Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther, like these movies are really
I'm like loving more and more and more. And Captain Marvel is going to be one of those where I think it's a big deal that we saw a woman actually say that in a movie like this, this genre, to go, I have nothing to prove to you. To say that to a man. That might not be a big deal to a lot of dudes, but I feel like it's gonna be a big deal to a lot of young women to see that. To go, oh, I can just say that great. So my biggest issue was people comparing it to Wonder Woman. I'm like, they are
literally not the same at all. They don't have the same origin story, they don't have the same like characters, Like they're not even One Wonder Woman was a period piece. In my opinion, it was a war movie. It's like not the same at all. And Kevin Fagi said, no, We're going to go in with her already with Captain Marvel already having her powers, and like it just it was so I'm like, that actually shows me that you're
not as well versed in comics. If you're trying to compare to randomly just because they're women, that's the only thing you have to compare it. I think I think it's a It's a frequent thing. Um people that are upset that the status quo is being challenged, whether they know it or not, they subconsciously do that. They'll pick
a thing against another thing. I'm a big trekky and every time I talk about how I'm really enjoying Star Trek Discovery, then you show people always jump in and let me know, a it's not as good as The Orville, And I'm going, well, then do you really like the Orville? Are you really learning lessons on like how to be a better person from shows like that or are you just trying to dunk on my thing, you know, and
make yourself feel better about your thing? Like by pitting two against each other when you don't really have to do that. When the new Star Trek show was announced and it was going to have a black female lead, I saw a lot of people online go, yeah, well, Deep Space nine did it, and I'm like, yeah, that was twenty years ago. We're not done, you know, making movies with black leads or making shows with black lead just because they did it and it were premiered in Like,
Blade movies are done. Blade movies are great, and we should give credit to Blade for being the sort of the movie that really jump started Hollywood going, let's make a bunch of superhero comic book movies. But Blade is not on my table right now, and that's a problem. So we need a new Blade, Like, we're not done with black superhero characters just because three Blade movies were made. You know, for me, it was just like their Carol and Diana could not be more different. So to even
their films shouldn't feel the same period. Their films shouldn't be the same. They're not the same character, and they don't. They only think the only thing that's the same is that they're both the first female character of a respective word. That's their thing. But it's like annoying to me that one had to be better than the other and all these conversations, so the same thing happened. She's am because
you know, oh, she Za used to be Captain Marvel. Oh, I like she's a better I like Captain Marvel better. I'm very happy that they that they both exist. I'm happy that they both exist, but that they all cheered each other on, like Gal Gadot cheered on Um, Brie Larson like tweeted about it. You know, Brie Larson like cheered on Zachary Levi. Zachary Levi cheered on Brine Larson. Like. They're adults that are making a lot of money too, so they don't actually care about all of your growth.
We have to take a quick break. We are going to actually jump into our favorite moments of this franchise right when we come back and we're back and we're kicking it off with Iron Man two thousand and eight. What is the biggest moment that stood out for you, your hype moment? What is your hype moment for the story,
because it's not at this point. I love that movie on its own, and the movie when it ends, when Tony Stark says, I am iron Man, right, you know when you hear the me is like the black like kicking. That's great, and the movie is complete and it's done. But I still remember my brain melting when I stayed after the credits and was sitting there with my high school college girlfriend at the time, and I don't think she she was like, I think she understood what was happening,
but I was like melting in my chair. When I heard Samuel L. Jackson speak, you know, I am iron Man. I was like, oh my god, it's it's real, it's happening because I knew exactly. I'm like, that's Nick Fury, He's from Shield. He's about to tell Tony Stark that there's more people like him. Here we go and and it um and it's still maybe the best post credit scene was post credit set the bar bar let us know.
And this was actually the pre era when you had important information after the credits before they were like, oh, let's not make people wait. It used to just be bloopers, and I wish that they did that. Oh my gosh, that is my big pitch for Endgame, which I know they probably won't do. I would die if it was just bloopers, like all their bloopers through the years. Wouldn't that be so funny and cute to what I would cry?
I can probably film how many bloopers they had over there, I know, but I really wish that they did on the Blue Race. They're great. No, okay, whatever, Just to confirm your that relationship did not survive the m C. You know, it got it was amicable, it wasn't There wasn't like you don't like purposes. It got snack, got snapped. All right, Okay, but now I don't know if we're allowed to say this. You're with someone who is on well, she's on so many things, but she's a character on
Carmen San Diego. You're allowed to say that, yeah, okay, I'm you're not allowed to. Okay, you're allowed to if you want. Yeah, she's her name is Abby Trot and she plays the character Ivy on Carmen San Diego, and she's hilarious. She's also in like a bunch of video games and and she's sang the song and Super Smash Brother is Ultimate. So if you ever played that game, no, no, no, no, we don't have the rights of that posably sorry, sorry, well I know, sorry is freaking out in the booth.
Producer is freaking out in the booth. We need it. Why are we having you on to many times when you have a happy one? She's great, she's great, Okay, we're going to Yes, Yes, incredible Hulk two thousand eight.
I really dig this movie. Uh My highlight though, is going to be just to just to keep things going with like the Shared Universe aspect, the moment where the abomination email Blonski is running across the field, like because we saw that again in Infinity War and at that point in the movie world, my brain was going, they're hinting that Captain America can do this, Like if Captain America has the super Soldier serum, that's kind of what they gave this dude. Now he's going to fight the Hulk.
This is how they like CAP's gonna look And they straight up did it in Infinity War. So I have a question, because you've been a bunch to a bunch of these marathon movie marathons, which I think like people now they had one, what was like you get paid like a thousand dollars to sit and watch them? How long is it tapping out at like ten twelve hours. I don't know, it's like a couple of days twelve hours. No, no no, no, there's two movies. Okay, at least to
several of I know Nerice does one every year. Um and okay, So, but how do people feel when this movie is shown? Does everyone still chill about it? Listen, there's a lot of controversy with like the order that you watch him in, with like what to include, what not to include. People will still tell me like, oh, you should include the Eric Bannah Hulk because it's like a prequel. I'm like, well, it's not. It's not. It's straight and it's not considered a straight rebooted into the
m c U to the Edward Norton version. Um I My stance is this, you can basically watch these movies the as with the theatrical release. I would only plug around a couple of different things. Hulk, you move towards, you move it to after Thor because Iron Man two and Thor and Hulk all take place in the same week. But then the events of Hulk. If you remember, at the end of Hulk, Tony Stark shows up iron Man
and he goes We're putting team together. That happens a little bit after the last scene in Thor, when the last scene in Thoris is Nick Fury tucking a Selvig like I want you to take a look at this cosmic cube. Like that happens before Tony going We're putting a team together, and then everything is is the way it was theatrically least, except then you take Spider Man Homecoming and Black Panther and you put them after Captain America Civil War, because Spider Man Homecoming takes place like
after the summer of that movie. He goes back to school and then some stuff happens, and then at the end of that movie, Adrian tombs Michael Keaton gets put in jail, and then Black Panther happens pretty much a
week or so after Captain America's Civil War. He goes and he fights kill Monger, And at the end of that movie, there's a post credit scene where Bucky the Winter Soldier comes out of like a little area, a little healing area in Wakonda, and they call him the White Wolf, and they have been like helping him sort
of fix his brainwashing. And that happens after the last scene in Spider Man and all everything else again, would just leave it to how it was theatrically released because it all sort of I'm just going off of the very very very last scene in the movie. I know people like to put Captain America the First Avenger first, because most of it takes place in World War Two, But the last scene in that movie is he wakes up in two thousand and eleven and Nick Fury's like,
you've been asleep for seventy years, cap. So, like, I like to watch that scene after I've seen Iron Man and Thor and you know, all the stuff that happened, and so because then that's that should be the last movie you see before the Avengers, to just kind of carry that through. So that's my whole take on it. But I'm I'm fine with dude, There's so many movies at this point. I'm not going to be like, you gotta watch all of them every time you watch one
of them. Watch what you want? Um is watching what you want? Also Iron Man too. Yeah, we actually did some like commentary for this. Remember we had to watch it. Yeah. Um, I enjoyed his carot, his parents great, make your works great. My favorite moment is anything with Justin Hammer, Sam Rockwell, next movie done. Okay, I did want to say. The other thing I liked is, um yeah, Whiplash. I liked the scene on the on the track where he has like all of those the coolest, it's the coolest race track.
And the introduction of Black Widow, which is important, but I prefer Black widows depiction like later in later movies, because she's like, she's sort of a glorified secretary, spy, sexy thing in this and it's like, I like it when they make her the super competent, you know, you know, just awesome, badass character who's a little tortured because she is. She's messed up, but she's great. They're all messed up. All these characters are messed up and flowed. That's what
makes him great. Thor's next. Best part of that movie, best part of Thor. I love the scene where Loki is yelling at Anthony Hopkins and he's like, I'm the story that you tell your children and I so that they that they go to sleep at night, when really I was just the thing you were embarrassed about. Time
and again, he never considered me for the throne. Wine would tell me that scene and he's like you and my son, I couldn't I couldn't tell you, and he like has a heart, Please continue doing We'll just start reenacting all the MC in a first that scene was good, but my scene is always going to be our first look at Hawkeye. It's great because because I'm because you know, Hawkeye feel like gets a lot of flak. And at this point I was like, Hawkeye was pretty dope in
the comics, so it was like very pro Hawkeye. So seeing him kind of like get ready, like you better call it Colson. I'm starting to root for this guy. Yeah, you guys will be on a team later. A great moment, uh.
Next up is Captain America, the first Avenger, my favorite Big Year, My single favorite moment in that entire movie is when Colonel Chester Phillips played by Tommy Jones throws of dummy grenade, Get down gradade, and skinny Steve Rogers jumps on it, Go get out of here, and then he gets up and everybody all the the you know Gilmore Hodge, the guy that Chester Phillips wanted to recruit to become Captain America and who Stanley Tucci's Abraham erst guy and was telling him like he is a bully,
He's not the one you should pick. He runs and hides behind a car and then Steve Rogers looks up. He goes, is this a test? That was a moment Peggy started to fall for him. That was a moment Tommy Jones turned to um Abraham Abrahammon was like, he's still skinny, like this this heroic thing. That just uh, It endeared me to that character in a way. That and I had been reading Marvel comics like my whole life, and I love Cap and I've always respected him. At
that moment, I'm like, I love this character. I love this character. That that was great. I loved it. For me. It was that death scene with Peggy because we want you, oh remember that I wouldn't want to step on your Oh yeah, well because because like I thought, I thought
you were kind of stopping yourself. But yeah. What was great about that is once again, as a reading all the comics is you know his his origin is something always referenced, but to actually like see it come to life, to see the moment his last moments before he became the Cap we love, it was like so beautiful to see and just that romance they built built with him
and Peggy was great. And that always time travel stuff always kind of like gets me, like just like like the end too Interstellar really got me, Like the fact like I just imagining like outliving your child because of just some weird time stuff. So like outliving the one you love, like that type of stuff always like hits me in a spot. I wish we had more time, different different franchise, but still yeah, so wonder them. It's
still good. Yeah, you're talking about, well, she outlives all of her Okay, moving on, moving on, we have the Avengers. This is okay. You have to talk about the defining moment of this movie, which is when Marvel, I think announced itself to the world. Is like where nobody to
be played with? Is the hero shot the whole movie builds or that the theme swells, Alan Sylvestri and all six of them cap with the mask on, Iron Man with the helmet down, Hawkeye, Black Widow, thor Hulk hulked out this thing and it led right into Hulk smashing Chatari Hulk smash and he smiles like this was a a man I had a chance to work on the movie before it came out. I must have mentioned it last time I was here and I saw clips and
I even saw this guy Thanos. I'm holding up the little picture and my mind was blown with like they're actually going to use Fanos in this Avengers movie. Like it's early. This is a pretty obscure, like deep reference cut. I don't know how people are gonna, you know, get it. As I was working on the movie, since I have loved these characters and the idea of Marvel comics and comic book superhero universes since I was a kid, I was like, this movie is gonna be huge, and my
coworkers are like, okay, Hector, it'll be fine. And it came out and it was the third highest grossing movie of all time. Like that's what the Avengers did, and it really is. You go back and watch that. The writing just services the action. The action helps the characters, which just goes back to the writing, what Josh Weeden did with that, all the decisions he made and what they let him do to make a two and a half hour movie like to It's just it's still in
use today. Like the rest of the Marvel movies really borrowed from from what that formula is, from how to treat those characters. I mean it brought back Holk in a way with Ruffalo where people were like, oh, now he's my favorite. It's like that's awesome. But to me, it's the group shot is that is the best part
of that film. That's that was What was crazy. Is like when I saw rough Laws like, I don't know, and it's funny because you know, you always had this super duper feeble banner like he always just and it was just a contrast how huge the whole kids and Ruffle well you know, he got some meat on him, like you know, and so I was like, I don't know. But the way he portrayed Bruce was like, oh, this is him so sensitive. Yeah you are Bruce absolutely. Next up,
Iron really dig this movie. It's losing a little bit of a chain as the years go on for me. But my highlight favorite part of this movie is the way that they took the in the comic books racist caricature of the Mandarin and use that thematically in the movie. They made a vaguely looking Osama bin laden looking character who was who was claiming, you know, credit for terrorism, who was really fabricated by like a businessman, like there's
all this stuff that's happening in that movie. And Ben Kingsley is hilarious, and when he actually the secret twist that he wasn't really the mandarin was a secret that was held. You go and see the movie, you're like, oh dang, Like it is like it's one like Luke through the Lightsaber for me, Like it was such a like funny, shocking thing, and it's complicated, all right, it's complicated drugs, lovely drugs, like like like how did you
not know what's happening? It's like our mate, you know, I'm an actor mate, It's just you know, it was so damn funny and I dug it and and I wasn't mad as a comic book fan of like where do you get the man? He's like, I'm wasn't missing it. It's probably gonna be the last Iron Man Tony Stark movie. You know. It's like what I've liked to have seen him face a magic guy. Yeah, but we didn't have Doctor Strange yet. The world wasn't ready now we do.
You want to tell me that there's a real mandarin that exists in the m C you like they did with the Marvel one shot. I'll hell the King, go for it. And you want to tell me that he's as magical as Doctor Strange or the Ancient one, go for it. I'll see that some day. But Iron Man three fun Yeah, then we're moving on to Thor The Dark World. I think the best part of that movie was when Loki died because at the time it was
for real. Even at the end of that movie where they're like, no, no, no, he's actually disguising himself as Odin. Only really because it comes into play and Thor Ragnarok in such a funny way, they recreated it with Matt Damon where they using the same music, using the same moment,
the same lines. Didn't do it for you, I didn't do it for him, like and it was like emotional then, but to have it replayed and kind of crapped all over by t And but also people can't see because you're holding up the little card like we said that he has trading cards of every character, so he has Matt Damon's character. It just says low key actor. And then at the top it says decimating is just because
their planet got blown No, because as a joke. Somebody was asking who died in the snap and somebody held up Matt Damon and they were like jokingly like yeah he got snapped like that. It doesn't matter, but I think it's really funny. Another example of that is the Gallagha guy from the Avengers movie, where's like that man's playing Galaga. That was a character that was apparently listed as having been decimated. Stupid but funny. I love it.
I actually I remember when they came out. Remember when in Fitty War came out and it was like you could check to see if you were dusted or I think I lived, And I was like, damn, didn't want to go hang out with everyone that's in the dust world. Uh, Captain America the Winter Soldier to this is a good one. This is a highlight for a lot of reasons. First of all, Robert Redford my mom's favorite actor. This character is now deceased Alexander Pierce, but he was a hottie
and he did a great job. I love George's bat Track, who is a funny character from the comics named Batrock Zelieper and they did a great job portraying him. But I have to say a highlight for me. It was the introduction of the Falcon Sam Wilson, the intro scene where it's on your left, that whole scene and he talks to you know, Steve and he's like trouble Man soundtrack nineteen seventy four, You'll catch up on everything, and he's like, I'll add it to the list. Like it
was just so well done. Uh. That was was a highlight for me, was seeing that character kind of brought to life and being recruited into the fold. You know, I never said I was a pilot where he he gets to um show off being the Falcon and um. And there's a bunch of great moments in that movie, and I think another big moment that if you're not a comic book fan, it paid off better and if you are, it was just fun to see. But who
the hell's Bucky? Which is great? Like, oh my god, like I I again, they did another good job of of of I think they don't remember if Sebastian stand was doing press as the Winter Soldier, like I don't remember. I don't know if he can't remember, somebody on the internet will tell me now. But but um, there's a there's a part of me that wishes that I hadn't been reading Marvel my whole life, because a bunch of these moments in these movies would be so to see
for the first time. Well that's the fun part of going online and where people who haven't are like the Winter Soldiers Bucky and you're like, yes, he is, Yeah, exactly he is. But that's why I like being tricked with these movies. Sometimes with like the Mandarin Twist, or in Captain Marvel, how the scrolls were depicted, I was like, Okay, he got me my own personal biases and my own you know, knowledge of the comic books made me think this was going to go a different way. I was very,
very happy with being surprised with Captain Mark. I've been sitting on this and you know what, Dan in the in the in the cut, just bleep it just in case believe it in. But just another cool moment would be if everyone's gonna be like what and it's like, yeah, that's the comics exactly for a little bit, and then he's going to that's why it's so excited about Monica in it, and I was like, do you even know who that is? I do. Moving on to Guardians of
the Galaxy. We're like catching up, We're like here, We're like almost here. Um. So many favorite moments in this first film. I love the opening where Peter Quill arrives on Morag and it's all like like cool music, and then he hits the Walkman and the first song comes up, because it was such a jarring like, oh, this movie is gonna be fun, even though it opened with the really sad his mom passing away. You know, take my hand, Peter, and you're just like all of a sudden crying. You're like, what,
what the what, what's happening? He gets abducted and then it's Marvel and then it's fun. The end of that movie is such a great payoff two to call back to that moment where he is holding the power Stone, the Purple Infinity Stone, and he looks over and it's go Mora. But he sees his mom and he you know, the one tier acting. And then Peter Quill finally takes his mom's hand and it's him accepting this new family with the Guardians, even the little Rocket hand. I love
the I love anything with Rocket Raccoon. He is a huge favorite character of mine. The scenes where he's yelling because he's drunk. He's like, I didn't ask to get made ripped apart and put back together again, and I got over and over. He thinks I'm fermin. Hey thinks I'm a rat like this character. And then earlier Peter Quill observes that he's got little stuff in his back, little little rivets or whatever, because they literally pulled apart.
Because to make a raccoon walk like that, you have to like stretch out the like the rib cage because like raccoons don't have chests or something like. So like this little so Peter Quills into prison Clint and he's observing him. I'll be kind of messed up. And I love this movie more and more as the years go by, the same with Part two. There's so many great highlights, but for me, it's those two moments. It's anything with Rocket Raccoon. Obviously, anything with group that's very emotional, like
when he goes we are group and sacrifices himself. But stuff with Peter and the stuff with Rocket in in that first movie I really dig and and that's why he and rockets like a favorite, my favorite character. In Part two, so I didn't grab his little card, but the arrest assured Rocket is my favorite. Then we have Age of Vultron. This is where things get a little shaky for something Rocket Raccoon. I just rewatched Age of
Vultron and it's better on a rewatch. This is another one that Jopp me he knew what he was doing. There is a lot happening in this movie, a lot of introduction of characters. But here's some stuff that that Josh knew to do that was genius. One introduced Scarlett, Whitch and Quicksilver. To kill off Quicksilver. Um, I think that that was a really really smart decision, and I think both of those actors did a great job. And Scarlett, which has been a really great character, to kind of root.
Why do you think because the whole idea going into the Avengers and everybody made this joke talking about your dude Hawkeye. Everyone was like, he's a guy with bows and arrow like, what is he going to do? There's the Hulk, there's Store, what is he going to do? So you know, Phil Coulson r I P. Except he's alive, was killed in the first Avengers movie, So everybody assumed, Okay, Joss is gonna do it again for Avengers to This is his m O. He does this in his TV shows.
He kills off beloved characters. Who's he gonna kill this next one? It's gonna be Hawkeye. I heard that. We are all hearing that. Like, he felt bad that in the first movie, Hawkeye was mainly brainwashed for most of the movie by Loki. So he wanted to give Jeremy Renner. He wanted to give Hawkeye Clint Barton because he loves these characters, like, he wanted to give him some some
of his you know, screen time. So he did. Then we had the scene where we go to the farm and meet his wife and his kids and we're like, okay. The beginning, he gets hurt, then he gets healed up, and they're making jokes about how he's immortal, and the whole movie's hinting at the fact that Hawkeye is gonna die. Hawky is gonna die. Then at the end he he inspires like a good Avenger. Scarlet Witch when she's freaking out, this is before she loses her brother, but she's like,
I can't I can't do He goes, he goes. We're on a flying city we're fighting robots and I have a bone arrow. None of this makes sense, but if you're gonna do this, you need to do this. Otherwise just sit here. But like, if you get out there, you walk outside those doors, you're an avenger. And he did it, and she comes out and she kicks ass, and you're like, yeah, haw guy's dead. He goes to save a little kid and what happens another call back
to the movie itself. Quicksilver throughout the movie twice has been saying, you didn't see that coming. So he saves Hawkeye. He dies, and he tells you didn't see that coming, tells the audience you didn't see it coming. He dies Scarlett, which loses it kind of kills one of the main Ultron robots. The Vision saves her when the city's falling, which is already starting the hint of like, oh my gosh,
Scarlett Witch in the Vision. But I think it was a smart introduction to bring those characters into the universe, but then remove one because Scarlett Witch is I think, you know more are arguably more interesting than Quicksilver. I love them both as common. She's more quick, yes, and he like goes through his own stuff and he leaves
and he comes back or whatever. The other things I think about this movie that our genius are that Josh Weeden knew when even when he was having meetings with like the first Avengers movie, he goes, he goes, Okay, whether I do this movie or not. The first one he should fight Loki. The second one, the Avengers should fight Ultron, and then Ultron should build Vision, and then you should have Paul Betany come and be the Vision because that point Paul Betney was Jarvis and Joss Weed knew.
He goes because that would be perfect and that's what Jarvis should evolve into and it which just makes sense. And so that was brilliant. This character, the Vision is fantastic. I love Paul Bettany's portrayal of the character. And if you rewatch age of Ultron, two scenes to me are perfect. The birth of the Vision where he's actually born through Tony Stark's technology. You know, Helen chose like body synth,
you know body a little bit of Bruce Banners tech. Uh. Captain America, like the vibranium of of the body is may be represented by Captain America's shield also being vibranium Thor shows up and hammers it and adds lightning like all of the Avengers kind of birth him. He shows up, the first person he sees is actually Wanda. She's there, Scarlett Witch. Then he flies to the window and he's born in a very different way than Old Tron was.
Ultron was born in like the lower levels of this buildings, the AI, and he's sort of born up at the top. He's seeing the city at peace. He's not seeing the Internet, which is just like humanity is messed up, and old Tron was like, oh, I gotta this doesn't make sense. I gotta fix this. The vision sees everything. Then he like grows a cape because he looks at Thor, and then he picks up the hammer and he's like, I don't I don't know how to get you all to trust me, but I am on the side of life.
And then he just like we should go and hands hands him the hammer, and that's another callback to scene earlier in the movie where they're just messing around trying to you know, but nobody can lift the hand. There's a lot of smart things happening in this movie. That scene is perfect, along with the scene at the end where Ultron dies this last drone and the Vision shows up and he says, you're the last one. You're afraid. He's like of death, of being alone and whatever, and
he goes, they're doomed. Humans are doing humanities doomed, and Vision says, yes, true, but a thing is not beautiful because it losts It isn't privilege to be among them. There's grace and their failings, and I think you missed that. Like it's this beautifully written scene amongst all of this chaos and superhero action or whatever. So a lot of people didn't dig it. I would implore people maybe to give it another shot. But Vision, for me, is a
big highlight in that movie. I was. I was team dig It, and mostly mine was like I like the bread comes, but a whole different set of bread crumbs because I sniffed the Civil War bread crumbs from the jump, and because you know, it was so very similar to what happened in the comics Civil War just heroes trying to do some stuff causing mass mass destruction and the government be like And one thing I do like about Civil War, both in the comics and the movies, is
it's the most grounded thing to ever happen in comics. Yeah, how long would this go down without the government trying to get involved? And I think it also flips it on on the viewers and the readers because when you on paper, you think Cat would be on the side of the government, and then it and him not being on the side of the government is such a strong message because everyone thinks that Cap is this agent of the government. He's like, no, he's an agent of good,
which means that if the government is good. And also the fact that Cap is willing to go against the government is the most American thing you can do, and I think people often forget that. I feel like in the grand scope, like idea, Yeah, everyone thinks that, you know, uh, patriotism is being subservient to whoever's in power in the government, and that is not the case. We were. We were built on, you know, defiance. So like the fact that it's like, no, this isn't right, this is not this
is this is not good. I have to stand against it. And someone like Tony who has always been like the opposite where he doesn't like control, he doesn't like he is on the side of government because he's the status quo. Yeah, it's such a beautiful just even when he goes against the status quo, which is the first iron like the beginning of him being Iron Man, or he said, no, the suit and I are one. It's me. I don't
trust anybody with my weapons except for me. He still has this mentality of like, well, how can I change the He's not trying to affect the status quo. He's just sort of controlling it on his own by you know, by his own means. Do you know what I mean? Like and and in this movie, and we can just skip aunt Man real quick. This is a great film.
Aunt Man introduces us to Luise. But my favorite moment and aunt Man is where at the end of the film he goes, I love you, Cassie and then shrinks into the micro verse to kill the villain Yellow Jacket, or to destroy him, because then he gets trapped in that cool little crazy dimension. He has to come back. Great little moment, but little moment of self sacrifice from Scott Lang. But back to Civil War. It's it is really smart. I'm gonna let you tell me that thought
of the Civil War. Okay, but after these mess and we are back. We just landed on Captain American Civil War, and Danny had a question about the comments. Oh wait wait, I had two things I wanted to say. One was aunt Man. I do I like the fact that the Wasp got to have her in the second movie, because it really didn't frustrate me that it was, like, I
totally understand the reason. They were like, well, no, he Hankpim doesn't want to sacrifice his daughter, so he's but I'm like, she's she's so much more well trained than this man and this this dumb like Homer Simpson. First, I think, I'll give you this if that was the movie I love, by the way, but but she deserves her. She deserved and if that's her the movie reason was is that Hank Pim Michael Douglas didn't want to sacrifice
his daughter Hope. They could have leaned into that more to like make that clearer, make that something that the characters actually talk about and work through, and and that she still has agency. But that's it's a frustrating thing
about that movie. But it's also what's to me great is that Hope is even in the movie because normally from the comic books, Scott Lang's story doesn't involve a Wasp like at all, Like it's just aunt Man and he just gets the suit from Hank Pim and then he just becomes aunt Man and he's worried about like helping his daughter, Like that's usually what Scott Lang comics are.
So the fact that they they're like, Okay, well, Hank Pim is married to Janet van Dyne and she's going to be lost, So we can't have a Wasp who's the same age as Hank Pim if he's not active as aunt Man anymore and he's retired, and okay, what's the solution. He'll have a daughter. Okay, what's the daughter's name? Hope van Dine. That's an obscure comic book character from like an alternate future. The point is is that they they they essentially created a character of Evangeline Lilie's character
to be in the movie. It's a bummer that she's like a supporting role and not like, you know, the same, uh title the same. It wasn't like split down the middle. And I think that they try to sort of fix that with ant Man in the Wasp the sequel, which is cool, And I think they were always planning to have a Wasp in the m c U. But they, you know, they initially started planning this Scott Lang Stories being a heist movie and it's it's it's aunt Man's movie.
And you know again, they even saved the Giant Man moment for Captain America Civil War where he turns out into the airport. He didn't go giant in the first aunt Man movie, but in this Captain America Civil War at the airport, he goes, oh, when he tried something out, he goes, it's okay, I've only tried this a couple of times. And then he had a cool trick that he did and he held onto war machine as he was fighting everybody. Um, again, you can you can't sort
of you know, blow everything in the first film. Kind like they're pretty good at like sort of saying it. But you're totally right that hope Vandyne Wasp could have done more or at least it could have been better explained.
So um but yeah, oh, I was just gonna say my question because Civil War the comics came out in like two thousand six, I believe, um and Incredibles came out in two thousand four, and you're a big brad Bird Person, and I feel like those have similar It's kind of fascinating to me, like the government stepping in and saying, you superheroes are actually causing more harm than good.
No more supers, Yeah, yeah, no more super That's also an idea from Watchman Alan Moore's six like, and I think even in some Marvel in some DC comics, even before Watchman, they sort of hinted at and explored at certain stuff. I know that maybe it was in the eighties two, but there was a superhero group in d C comics in World War two active during World War
Two called the Justice Society of America. And then they revealed later that during the fifties, McCarthy is m forced them to hang up their cape because they didn't want to reveal their secret identities, and they were you know, are you are you Commies? Are you Reds? And they're like, you know what this is, BS, Like, We're gonna We're not gonna work for the government. We're gonna retire from being superheroes. So so that idea has kind of been
floating around. But really the Incredibles, you know, did a great job of mainstreaming it, and Civil War the movie is different but similar in spirit to the comic book, right, the details are different, the details are different. Quick, just sidebar question, just because it brought this up on Candy Dinner. And I feel a certain way, and I'm curious to
what everyone at the table feels. What did you think about the switch of the endings in um in the movie versus the comic book and you're referring a watchman. I thought it was fine. I think it's I think that alien squid is kind of a tough sell with with me. I think it's the it's the only true one. And here's why, because because I literally had this discussion. It's like, sure, you can make this bomb look like
it was doctor Manhattan no matter what. At some point in time, doctor Manhattan was an agent of the US, so the other country with still there's still someone to blame that. You'd be like, whereas the squid, if it's out of this world, there's no one to blame you. Yeah, you have no other choice than like we have to bind together. That's why it was kind of silly to me.
I was like, no, that that's why I thought it was great, Like, yeah, it was like silly, but it but at its core, the point that More was making did ring true. If there is some extraterrestrial force that no one can pinpoint, can no one can blame, and one can say, yeah, it has no other choice but to unify the world. I get that. Yeah, we'll see what the HBO show. Have you been enjoying Doomsday Clock. I've only read a couple issues, and yes, I thought
that was so good. The answer is yes. Um, I kind of want to wait till the whole thing is done and read all twelve. But I think that it works as a really, really great I don't know if it works as a sequel to Watchman, but for me, it works as a great commentary on the impact that Watchman has had in comics, and specifically d C comics since it came out in where everything has become dark and pretty and it's fascinating. So really want to see how that whole thing plays out. But I've enjoyed what
I read so far. Yeah. Yeah, So for people that don't know, you can read Doomsday Clock on the DC app right where you can catch Hector. It is the app I believe DC Daily. Um, but you can also catch to give me that all right? I might be able to you know what, you know what, I'm gonna grab food with her soon. Okay, okay, that's right, that's right. Yeah. Wait, so we went into Civil War America Civil War. Yeah, this moment in that introduction for Spider Man, for me,
that thing made me cry. That scene that's one where he's in his apartment and he's just like, if you don't do the things that you can do and then the people get hurt, then it's your fault. Bad things happened, then it's your fault. That's that was like that summed it up. I love Spider Man movie. I love Black Panther in that movie. Two huge introductions of characters in big ways, and they and they added to the story. They added to the narrative. Tony Stark taking Peter Parker
and putting hitting him against Captain America. Fascinating. What's going on with that that would later lead into their relationship been Spider Man Homecoming and Black Panther on his own redemption arc and learning not to to let vengeance consume him, which was a great moment, and it led into what Baron's Emo was going through. And again all of that spinning out of the events of Age of Ultron with
Zekovia and stuff. So this when Captain America Silvil War came out, I was like, this is my favorite Marvel movie. Like it checked all the boxes for me. It was so fun and entertaining while still having a great Captain America story at its core and one thing far away and it was it was three years ago. And the one thing I want to say is when it came out, there are a lot of comic book fans who kind of you included If you included, what did I say? You were like, it's not as good as the comic.
The comic had a bunch of characters, whatever, whatever, bring back all right. I will say that a time has brought wisdom to your boy. And because because I remember the big beef was like that that airport Tarma versus like the big fight you see in Comic War. There's just literally no page space and people being like, we went from this to this, And I think it has been just time and just seeing the effect that you know, I think things like the fact that Grandma's no who
thanos is that that tarmac scene? I think I said this last week was as big as that page spread for people who only saw the movie. It's a double page spread in comics. That's what that whole scene isn't it is? That was three years ago. I was talking that spicy Yeah. Look, look, I'm I'm I'm I'm man enough to say I was wrong back then. Uh, and I might be wrong about some stuff that I'm saying now, but but yeah, no, yeah, but but I do remember
I was very underwhelmed. But like seeing the scope. I think it was seeing like what we have accomplished with Infinity War and how far we were going with movies and just making more stuff, you know, like in in the time that have come writing television, right, you know, shooting things. To know the difficulty that comes to what like, I think that that's an element that we don't even get to really dive into. Is like what they're doing,
just even on a technical filmmaking level is insane. It is so hard and to I mean just the money to pay all these people. It's just because we're not talking about like just some newcomers. We're talking about stars and at the same time making stars. It's it's it's achieved to the airport scene, which is a highlight for me for Captain America Civil War as well. It's UM people.
I think when they realized that they were like, they felt like they were ripped off when they're like most of those characters were fully c G. I'm like, that's incredible because they X right, I have yeah, And they they did a scene, they did a scene of two sides of characters running at each other and fighting, and they were juggling all that in the daytime, in the
middle of the day in an airport. These are things that we know what they look like with our eyes, Like we know what lighting looks like, we know what natural lighting looks, we know what we know what characters look like that are running and jumping and getting attacked and hit. So for as many characters as there are that are like CG, like Iron Man, War Machine, Um,
Spider Man, Black Panther has a lot of CG. Ant Man with the full helmet and everything mixed with characters and stuntmen and actors like Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Like, it's mind blowing. How awesome that scene is. I really dig it up. Next we have Doctor Strange. This is I've been reading these great Um I'm gonna tell you My favorite moment is when the ancient one, the ancient
one dies. I think it's beautiful till the Swinton. I still you know, there's still obvious issues with that casting. But this movie as a whole, even though it's still is a part of the sort of white savior male narrative thing that is like, uh, you know, unfortunately a historical thing in Hollywood. Um. Doctor Strange is the first Marvel movie that starts to move away from the typical
western action movie solution to the problem. At the end of this movie, he the city is already destroyed, and he uses the timestone to reverse everything and actually save Hong Kong. And then he goes and has that great scene with Dormamu where he's like, dormam who have come to bar, I'm here to bargain. Everybody remembers that scene. Everybody remembers that Dr Strange, Stephen Strange is willing to die over and over, maybe thousands of times, maybe millions
before dorm was like enough, what is what's happening? Which is such a great so solve to like the third act, gotta destroy the big bad, which happens in every single one of these movies, and part of that movie is that this character, Stephen Strange, has to reject some of the ways of his life and embrace like Eastern philosophy. It's not the strongest example of that, but it's in there and it's cool. And I've been reading these great articles that you guys should be reading by a writer.
I'm gonna tell you who he is right now, but it is a Road to Endgame and it's on slash film dot com and the uh the this writer has been putting out every week day and by the time you're listening to this, they're all all out, I'm sure, so you can just go and read them all. Starting from iron Man one, he talks about what these movies do? What the hell? I just gotta pop up ad that's so annoying. Well, I'll just do this um politically, what
the movies in the m c u UM say represent? Yes, do, But do you mean that there's politics and the like? He politics out of comic books. Comic books, Hector, have never been political politics. Let me tell you right now how many politics are in how many politics? Iron Man, iron Man too, Captain America, The Winter Soldier, and Captain Marvel were all partly funded by the Pentagon, like they are literal propaganda, where like the US government signs are
you well Captain Marvel's premier. She had like over a hundred service workers there, like a big part of the Air Force was there. They actually worked on the film. They helped it make it more authentic. They had Um, yeah, there was a huge It was a huge deal. It was funny because there was like this article where George R. Art Benton said something like he was like, oh, yeah, no, you can see that Game of Thrones. The politics in it is mirroring what you see every day. And someone
was like, don't make this political. Like the Arthur is literally one telling you it's political too. If you've read it, it's a story about politics. Uh. And then three, It's like one thing that people often forget because I, um, I remember I was talking about this when I did h Fantasy Flix League. It was a movie pod and I was saying, how like you know us uh you know Jordan. People was trying to say, it's not like super political, and then they're like, well, art is inherently political,
and that is true. And that's something that we often forget is like in good art, we are always trying to say something and that in itself will inherently be political, Like especially you know, people go so crazy with like dysotopean cyberpunk stuff, not knowing that it is a takedown on capitalism. Lots of times, you know, so and and and lots of times it has been recently very mas tratory of this, like how cool it would be if capitalism,
like you know, took over. But anyway, you know, I'm sorry that we're another but we're turning into that s j W. Cast's part of these movies. What I wanted to say is that your favorite filmmakers, you wouldn't have these stories without them being influenced by politics. And that's why people like George Lucas or George R. Martin, like they're influenced by what's politically happening in the world around them enough to create villains that are mirroring real life villains.
So this series again one last time, Road to Endgame. It's on Slash Film. It is by Siddant Laca, and I apologize if I mispronounced your name, Siddant, but they're fantastic essays that you should go and read every single one. I mean, look at This Road to Endgame flor Regnrock is a superhero comedy about the horrors of colonialism. I think you've been tweeing about him there Secret one. They're great. Yeah, they're all course tyke of course. Oh we could get
into that. But where are Gardens of the Galaxy Volume two? I know I didn't do nothing right, but oh yeah, we're happy. He was my boy maybe and your father, but you and your daddy, your daddy his Mary Popman cry. Yeah that I remember. I didn't. That's another Marvel movie I got late to and I washed it on an airplane, sitting next to it was meant to be sitting crying
right next to Ronnie. Just let you didn't know you will sleep, And so I was like trying so hard, not because I was like, I don't want to deal with this. Dude's seeing me cry. So I was like speaking of toxic masculine like it's it's all good fun roasting. He's not like seriously being but it would I would not have heard the end of it as we were in another state for a comedy fest. So I'm like washing if that my gosh, it reminds me of the scene from Fresh Prince of bel Air. Why why doesn't
he love me? Why why don't he want me? Don't want me? Don't start with that. Damn, I'm sorry, but it okay. So my favorite got so iconic. The opening, Yes that man, yes, with group dancing and everybody like everything going to chaos behind everybody trying to be a parent to group and that was hi, James Gunn. Was he was dancing as group? Sure? Yeah the motion capture, yes, yeah. If he wasn't doing it for that scene, he's done it for a bunch of group stuff. And that's a
fantastic opening. I love the scene where Drax talks about his family and he is sad but not crying, and then Mantis, who's a great character, like is empathetically feeling and she's just sobbing and he's just sitting there like very content thinking about his family being dead. I love the stuff between Gomera and Nebula that she finally admits to her like and you just wanted to beat me and I just wanted a sister. The sister stuff that happened to the end of this movie where they hug
kind of like it always gets me. And my favorite thing about the movie is that. The last shot is Rocket Raccoon looking at the at the Ravager funeral that Yondu gets and he's realizing he can have love. He'll he'll be loved at his funeral, even though he's this little bastard who pushes people away. Like it's such a it's it's just so emotionally rich that movie. There's so much happening there. I really love Guardians too. I just rewatched it and it's great. So yeah, great movie. Now
let's go to Spider Man Homecoming. Love this film. Love the scene where Peter Parker hypes himself up by saying, come on, Spider Man, Come on, Spider Man. That's a great moment. Donald Glover in the m c U is a great moment. It's so funny. He's like, what, I'm not a girl, I'm a boy. I mean, I'm a mar But the best moment, Hector, yeah, that Green the red Light scene, the red Light scene, Michael King when he realizes that Peter Parker's Spiderman. It's great. It's so great.
One thing I do like about it is necessarily that twist. I think everyone talks about that twist because the twist in it, it just plays with human expectations like it's it's it's a twist. There's no reason we shouldn't have expected Vulture to be her father other than the fact that we're not used to mixed families, and so they
used that information that that's that's the greatest twist. When it's not something that they were actively hiding, it was something they knew would be hitting hidden just because of social perception. I can use the excuse of like, well, my comic book brain was telling me, you know, the Vulture doesn't have a daughter named Liz, and it Liz. His last name in the comics is Alan. That was
my dumb comic book brain. But it was also my own biases, my own like inherent racist thinking that like a white dad can have a mixed or black daughter, like that's that was part of it. So when he opened the door, he's like, hey, you must be the you know, used to get Liz. I was like, oh my god, Like they got well, it's well, it's great because it's all like them doing this is combatant. Why you would think that you just don't see it on TV.
You don't see you know, when you go out, you you go out the public now you look scroll, you'll see lots of white fathers with black kids, and you know, but because you don't see it on TV, you just don't expect to see it. It's like when you first start watching Doctor Who and you're like, all these interracial couples that they had more interracial couples in one episode of Doctor Who than America has had in years. You know, likes television, Yeah, it's British television. Really really, I love
I love Zandia as MJ. Full stop, full period, full stop. She's fantastic and I love this version of the character where she's just so sarcastic and so funny. Yeah, and I'm really looking forward to see because I'm an m J guy with Peter Parker and MJ. That's my O t P. Two kids say, I feel like I'm just repeating myself thor ragnarot Um, here's what I can actually,
I can actually this, man. I think one of my favorite is I'll Steal from Danny, which is that opening, which is just seeing because you know, especially with a lot of like these comic book movies, the tempo of it is like they never really fully flex until the end, until they had that moment where you have Thorn just flexing at the top of the movie being dope. And that's kind of like the Thorn that I read where he's just this overpowered but kind of dumb guy. So
what do you do? You take his hammer away? You have Hella break his hammer. You have Hella played by Cate Blanchett, beautifully be more powerful than up agreed, and she shows up as a as as as A as a remnant of Odin's legacy, and Odin as a character was trying to sort of do better, you know, in the later years, centuries of his life or whatever. But
like he how did Asgar become Asgard? They apparently conquered people like that, Like that's the effects of colonialism and um, and so to have my big, big favorite moment of mine is at the end where where Thora is seeing his dad and Odin tells him like are you are you god of hammers? What are you? What are you again? And he's the god of thunder and so he's able
to come back. You get the you get the song playing, and then he goes and fights everybody and he realizes that he thor makes a decision to try and destroy Asgard. And do better and while still protecting the people to um to take away any power that Hella had from being close to this place that you know, gave her the power. Here's something I want to bring up to I didn't realize this until I read that essay by Sedant the The Road to End Game Um. Traditionally in
the comics, Valkyrie is blonde. She's a white character played by Tessa Thompson who is of Afro Panamanian descent, I believe. And she's got tattoos and she also has a drinking problem. These are two things that are apparently real things that are part of Maori culture that affect populations that were like indigenous people, you know, transported or transplanted because of colonialism in Australia and in New Zealand alcoholism especially, which I didn't realize until I read this. I was like,
whole the crap. They have a whole arc with Valkyrie where she embraces her cultural roots. At the end, she takes on the sort of traditional garb of a valkyrie. She you know, she puts it on and when she comes and finally arrives back at Asgard at her home, there's fireworks playing there's fireworks happening, and then the ship behind her has it's like red and black and yellow, which are the colors of the Aboriginal flag in New
Zealand or Australia. Like those kinds of things that I don't know because I'm a I'm from the United States. I'm not familiar with that sort of cultural history and what he's tapping into. But I think the preferred term is first people's first people, Yeah, right, right, exactly, first people. So there's a lot happening here that is still like this really funny, fun space, you know, with characters like Cord hey Man like this just like a really fun,
silly adventure. But there's a lot of deeper stuff here that um tay t is the first director of color that the Marvel Cinematic universe highed to come in, and then the one afterwards, Ryan Coogler, now the one of my favorite director just Smolder Oakland, um Black Panther. I can't remember if you if we if we must have talked about this again last week. I'm sorry, I keep repeating myself. If we talked about the origins of Wakonda in Marvel Comics before or after we saw the movie.
We talked about it before before called it, and we basically essentially called kill Monger's art Yes I Will, I Will, which is on record that we called that arc because we had that conversation on the internet before the movie. Why didn't Wakonda help other enslaved Africans? Yeah, you know, during was like, wait till y'all see this exactly. Uh, I love this movie. Highlights for me are anything with
a Koyer. She's fantastic, Sherry being like so charming and so funny, where she's like can we wrap it up? I'm you know, can we wrap it up? Which is apparently a line written by Donald Glover who came in and helped with the script. During ta Challa's like coronation at the beginning and then the scene. There's a lot of kill Monger great moments, but for me, the museum scene at the beginning, again this isn't a big mainstream superhero movie, where he's like, no, this is from Wakonda
and she's like, no, this belongs to the museum. He's like, oh, where do you think your ancestors got it from? They bought it? Like I'm like, dang, there, I think I think four times in theaters all I can think. I was like, damn, how many times did that go? Back and forth? They're like, hey, can y'all change this? And nah, I'd like to. I'd like to think, not a whole lot, you know what I mean, I'd like to. I don't
know what that process would have been like. But the thing that makes me excited is like, the stuff that's in the movie is in the movie, and kids are going to grow up listening to those ideas and oh yeah, yeah, wait a minute, when they get to school ask questions, oh yeah, well, because those type of things are hard
to to talk about. It's almost like that um that like Huge Players Tribune that came out where one of the white basketball players came out and was like I am privileged, and he was like, I am not responsible for the sins of my ancestors, but I do benefit from them, like pair of phrasing. And it's that's like a hard situation to have because then you're like, you you don't want to lose anything for something you feel
like you don't have a part of. But it's like, nah, give that statue back, Nah, give that, but you did take that. Even it doesn't matter if you paid for it, you didn't get it from any means, Like if if if you found out that I that I if I bought your car from someone and we find out that it was stolen from you, that doesn't mean I get to keep it, right, I would like that car back. Yeah, and and and even just a little conversation about museums,
what they represent, what the historically, what they do. Like after even watching that scene, it made me go, yeah, you know what, there needs to be more of an effort of like building beautiful museums in you know, countries of origin and having those people like take care of their own stuff like That's that there should be more of an effort for that. And it would be cool if um you know, oh my god, did that I just forgot my favorite scene, the introduction of Umbaku Winston
do holy crap? I mean also that like changed his entire career. Oh yeah, I think I was reading somewhere that like at the premiere was where Jordan Peele met him and then they ended up you want to be in my movie? Yeah, exactly a premiere. Look, you could have come with me, could have come I can imagine with me. Well, thank you I'm serious because I think that you can do I love what Winston didn't a movie us, but I love I love that those actors
got to play two characters affect you. And I loved his like nerdy, cheesy dad dad and don't take this wrong way if he I think you can do that. But I also think you're capable of all of that other stuff. So like, yeah, it could have been you, man, you should have gone to the premiere. Yeah, I met Ryan Coogler at the at the Infinity War premiere because, um, he's friends with Jacqueline Cooley, who's one of my friends, and you're gonna you're gonna be in Black Panther too.
Well know is that he took the time to talk to me. It's all he's the guy. Yeah, yeah, it was really sweet and kind. I'd be surprised if a dude as Oakland as Coogler would would like be Hollywood he seems. And that was what really this the release of Black Panther, and not even just the release, watching all the interviews of it really kind of like shifted
my whole energy towards my career. Like this is just a more meta talk, but like watching these these like interviews and seeing like Coogler not code switch talking this
like very Oakland accent. Like even when he did like he had a Vanity Fair where he was breaking down the casino fight scene, he was like and then you have her take off the wig and it's like boom boom boom, and it's like like I knew what he was saying, but it was very there was not cod whiting to scroll down and people be like, this guy's a genius. It really was like, wow, we really are like making strides. And then it also kind of let me know that it is very important for me to
be authentic. Like you Authenticity is important because it it you know, there's a part of your brain because you know, we spent most of our life up until this point trying to acclimate and try and you know, make others comfortable. But the but seeing that and seeing that, like you know, yeah, nobody can say he's not a genius because everyone saw the movie. Everyone's seen and even before Black Panthers, we
had Creed. Even before Creed, you had you know, so like he has set the track record to be like you can't knock what I'm saying and how I'm saying it because the proof is in the pudden and that's when I it totally shift from me and I've just kind of, I know, from that moment, I've just been more open with my thoughts and just talking the way I talk and being who I am, you know, because it just showed me the importance of authenticity, because if
you are code switching and acclimating to make others feel comfortable, you aren't truly giving the representation to inspire to the people who need to hear it. Yeah, it's a good point. Um. Also, the only film of this franchise that was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Picture and did when um Ruthie Carter. Yeah, oh yeah, that one. That was amazing. I'm so happy that that one. Yeah, that was great. So it's great. Last but not least, we're going to
talk about the one movie we didn't talk about last time. Well, I guess we talked about it, but yeah, um, I love when the Red Skull showed up. Oh great, he hid that for a very long time, but he was at the premiere. I'm like, oh, that's cool that they asked the Walking Dead guy to show up. He's in the movie. He's in the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was great. Um. I do remember asking him and I think he said everybody asked him, dude, why didn't
you tell me? And then I was later like, oh, yeah, never mind, you can't. You couldn't. It was like, literally, that's the type of thing because I wonder who, because if you think of like if you get into a major franchise like Star Wars, Marvel, like you do think like who would you tell? Like would I just be like Danny, I'm gonna be out for a few I can't tell you. But I just no look for me. And honestly, the only reason I didn't tell anyone about because I don't it didn't he didn't make me sign
an n d A for Ralph. I don't think and I will say and I don't want to say, but like it didn't happen necessarily early in the like you you sort of came on in the summer, in the summer. It came out in November. November, which is time that I was silent about. And also that guy that like, I've had people like trash me online and I was like, oh, I wish I could tell you, but no, the only reason I didn't say anything really was because I was afraid it would get cut and then I would look right,
which is which is? It happens all the time. People get cut from scenes. Um, even Ross. He may have been cut in red Skull like you never know, you know, he may have been cut his red skull where we're like, we gotta move this sequence around. Okay, Um, that was great? Yeah, Infinity War. I loved all the humor. I've said this before, you know, I understand that it was upsetting, slash, traumatic, slash,
sad for people. But I laughed so much through this film that How did you react to the end though? Do you remember when Fanos did it and then people started to disappear? Were you laughing? Still laughing? When when Bucky died? Laughed? Okay, listen the worst I didn't laugh, Listen. I was giggling a tiny bit at the person in front of me who was freaking out about it happening. And I understand, but I just knew it would be okay, come on, like like we know a lot of these characters,
all right. I'm more concerned with the with endgames, you couldn't let yourself you get taken away by those storytelling. I was. I was there, but it was a little I wasn't laughing, No, I was. I felt for them. The biggest part was Rocket and grout. That was. That was the last thing he said, was right. The last thing he said was was he said, I am group, but you know what that was supposed to have? Wait? No, what was it? Dad? Yes, Oh that's rough got me.
That one was really hard, and of course everybody, I know, everybody felt really I don't want to go. It was sad, but I mean I know that he's coming back for two pictures. But um, okay, it was I I get it. I totally get it. I'm not saying I loved it. It was one of my favorite Marvel films of all time. I'm not. It's hard for me to look. I'm a dragon Ball fan. We got we get our heroes wish back all the time, so like it's hard for me
to feel those deaths were there. Collect the balls and listen to Disney bought Fox, so just put the dragon balls in there. Um, I don't think Fox has the dragon balls anymore? Do they think they got? Talking to Cinema they have? Maybe you're right, who has the dragon Ball, right, somebody has the movie right to toy, of course, but they would there's no way that they studio has it still. I don't know. We'll have to do some research. Okay, but no, this makes me sound like a horrible person.
It's not that the final moments weren't. But I'm giving you a hard time because I didn't cry. I totally see what you're where you're coming from, because we are, We're tapped in, We're aware of what's going to Contracts Part one. And even when Infinity Gauntlet the comic book came out, it was only like a month or two weight before everybody got brought back after Thanos actually snapped it.
This is impressive because it's actually a year like and it's it might not be three years again like Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi, but but for a movie this size, this scale of the scope, I
will say this. I think that the Infinity Gauntlet Saga, the Infinity War movie going into Endgame is going to be something that people watch five years from now as they're doing their rewatches, or they go back and revisit it, or they're going to show their kids for the first time and when you see Endgame in that context where you're just gonna be sitting down and it happened, you know, five, six, eight years ago, and you rewatch Endgame, or you watch
Infinity Warren at the end, everybody snaps, you're gonna be like, dang, I know I'm about to pop in the next movie and it'll be fine, But dang, my kid doesn't know that. It's gonna be like. It's good. It's It's the same way people now will watch The Empire strikes back and Han Solo gets frozen and you know what I mean. We're like, oh, I see what you mean. It'll it will. It will have a different meaning and feel and impact when you go back and revisit it and what it
says in the larger scheme of things. And I also think that it will when you go back and reflect. Depending on how Endgame is gonna shake out, it's gonna be sadder because Endgames not about well, we've got to get everybody back, the rest of the characters and how they're coping and so. And we haven't seen that movie yet, but actually you have your at the premiere last night, so you saw it. But the End Game is about there.
It's in the future. I want you to know, as I'm recording this, I haven't seen it, so I can't technically spoil anything, So please don't get mad at me because I haven't seen it as of this recording right now at this moment. But um, I think I think it will actually be sadder because because I don't think
some of these characters are to survive. So I think that that will be that will be difficult to see even if they are brought back, maybe they don't make it or some of the ones that did survive don't make it. And I think this might be like one of our This would be like one of our final films with us and essentially died. He got his next snap behind all. Yeah, a bunch of as Guardians, like
they're gone, We're not used. One thing I will say, probably the last thing I will say, is the coolest thing about finally seeing the trailer that it was like the ones that I saw was when they were like, just get all the Infinity Stones Like that one was what was crazy because it's like, yeah, that is the solution. That's always been a solution. You gotta go find him and then you connect them just like you gotta find all the dragon balls, you know, like you gotta go,
you find them, and you bring them back. So I'm super excited to see because if it is the fact that everyone's going to go and literally find all of the infantaities, that we're probably going to see so many different worlds, so many different things. So it's going to be a wild ride. Yeah. Yeah, So ant Man in the Wasp we talked about that came out in as well and kind of was like, hey, I know, you just watched that really dark thing. Anyways, here's like a
fun like non consequential essentially, except for the end. The end, stated my girlfriend because because she because you, because she was like, you know, we all had a fun what and then that scene happening, she was like she was like, oh no, oh, I forgot that he did it, and then it was really sad. And then we had Captain marvel in ten got to say, I loved when she showed up like they just turned, like yeah, they just turned, and she's right there. I want to watch this movie
right now. I've never been more than that ending scene. So you know, hopefully my dream is that you're driving to a to a theater about an hour and a half away, and you finally just pulled up and we're closing this off, and you're like, real, before you go in, but before you walk into that theater? Where can people find you? Actor? You can find me on the internet. I don't know where you're I didn't know where you
were going with that, but now you never do. Uh. You can find me on the internet at Hector is funny. Check out episodes of DC Daily every day on YouTube in DC Universe and um and listen to the Five Greatest Films podcast, which is a great podcast. Every once a week I watch a movie. It's great. Um. I want to say my final thing. I'm not going to spoil anything cause I haven't seen anything, but I do think and hope that they'll introduce new characters, which I
think is going to be fascinating endgame. Yeah, I don't know if it's going to happen in endgame because I feel like a lot of characters it will be their swan song with maybe it would be one coming in a one big one one new big one, big one. Wolverine's going to happen, oh Man, Deadpool walks in. I'm at Miss Danny Fernandez. Yeah, check out our t public site, public dot com slash nerdificent get some cool nerdy tease and send it to it like, send us picks of it.
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