Episode 37: Miles Morales

not here to replace Danny. I'm just you know, I'm just here for your dad. I just don't want instant hate that it's not Danny, alright, and sitting across from me this time is a good friend as well. Aaron Powell, how are you doing. I'm good, man, doing good good. You have done the most nerdy Prince crossovers I think that I've seen ever. Dude, it's it's my thing now. People will not not let me dress up as prints,

so yeah, I kind of have to. Even when I try to do other stuff, they say, what are you gonna do? Prince again? I'm like, I guess I grew out this long beard so I would stop doing princes. Like, now we're good, you can still do prints. Yeah, prince had a beard at one point. I'm like, yeah, but not the costume that I do. We don't care. Just do princes and dance and that's all it is. Yeah, I'm six I'm the tallest prince ever. I'm six one.

And then I actually have like a little bit of lift on the boots that I wear, so like, I'm just like this humongous princes walking around in a giant purple coat. You've probably seen me if you've been to a comic convention. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna drop where you can find both of y'all just at the same time. So, Edgarer, you you do the screen shunkys, you know you you you hop on the screen junkies, and you have your own podcast as well. You want to tell us a

little bit about that. Um. Yeah, it's called nerd Goat Podcast, and we've had you and Danny on, which are very popular episodes. Dodka, but it's just a dive into people's favorite fictional character, and that can be you know, we've done Tarzan, We've done Conan, We've done characters from video games, Spider Man, the Daredevil's this isn't that we've done Elaine Benness from Seinfeld Coat, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's not just you know, people who swing on

webs and bunch people do walls. It's it's certainly whatever fictional character. And we find that when people come on and they really get a chance to just go nuts, you know, you know, your significant other always here's your dumb screed, whatever you like. It's it's our guest opportunity, funny people like yourselves. And I usually I want to I want to invite you on it. Right now. I will definitely be no, no podcast. I'm shutting it down.

But honestly said Bargo. But anyway, yeah, so that's that's what we do. Me and my man Ron Swallow, We just we just let somebody vent on their favorite fictional character and we kind of James lifting it up. Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's a great concept and it was really fun to be on. Uh, you know, Elaine isn't as weird to me as someone whose favorite character is Tarzan.

Little Tarzan had stands like that. That was wow. Okay, And and sometimes We'll have people who will have like they won't have this giant comprehensive like, oh I know everything about this character, but they're like a certain iteration of them, Like she liked the Johnny White Miller Swimming Tarzan movies. Yeah, you know, from back in the days, because the best back when she was like, you know, her grandpa wau show him to her and stuff like that. So we get to see why people connected with some

of these characters. Rather than just nerd out and standing out about the character and doing some roll call of their feats or whatever, it ends up being a deep dive into the personality of the person, which is I think the special part about the show. It sounds like you are qualify your resume stacks up to be a co host and I'm gonna turnover to Aaron. And you know, you have quite a few podcasts. I have to, I have to, and I guess on a lot of others.

Um I did a couple of guest spots this week, and I got a couple more later on my podcast, though, uh, the two of them are. Aaron explains the universe, which um it started off with just me giving dating advice and like talking about like dating mishaps I've had in the past two Now I talk more about like social issues, um, things going on in the world just and I'll ramble about a lot of other stuff too, but I always

bring it back to Daton somehow. My other podcast, which is on hiatus until I find a different format for I want to do video for It's called Stupid Movie Tuesday. Tuesday. Stupid Movie Tuesday is when I watched a movie either new or old, and I give my honest review on it. The episode that a lot of people like is my Suicide Squad one, And then the one people like because I'm just so angry about it was, um, Gods of Egypt.

I didn't even make it through the whole movie. I watched that one live as I did it, and like, if you want to hear there's not a lot of cursing on this podcast that I'm on right now, but if you want to hear somebody curse and find the Stupid Movie Tuesday where I'm doing Gods of Egypt, you will see me at my absolute angriest. It's like driving on the four oh five angry. That's a regional reference is not gonna get but it's whatever freeway is in your town that you hate. That's what it was. You

didn't like those Irish Egyptian gods. No, not at all because like that like my family like from Egypt. So like when I watched it, I was like, wait a minute, wait, wait wait, this is this is this is not right at all, And like just just on a mythology standpoint, I'm like, this is terrible. Jamie Lanister, the actor who plays him, because I can't pronounce his actual name, uh, he played Horace in that movie. Yeah, Jamie, Jamie Lanister playing don't don't, don't spoil it, let him let him

go see that, will see it, go see it. Sigourney Weavers in it for some reason. Whatever Sigourney Weavers might forever cross, she can be in whatever movie. She can be in Black Panther. Honestly, there was there was an actor in Black Panther that was in Gods of Egypt two. He was he was ban he was taught. Yeah, okay. Vin Chadwick Boseman head basically was like, I guess he needs to pay rent that mother book Black Panther yet al right, Well, speaking of Black Panther and black superheroes

segue of the year. Mons Morales is who we're here to talk about. Morales is fun. We're gonna get into the deeds and the in the beginning of it, but Mons Morales is cool in the sense that I remember

when he came on the scene. I remember, I think everyone in this room remembers it, and I remember when he first came in being unimpressed, uh not by the character itself, but on the well for for the nonversed fans, I'll like walk it back and explain everything I'm mentioning, but the fact that he existed in the Ultimate Universe and not six one six, so that I was like, Okay, y'all doing it, but you're not really doing it and what that means for those who might not know the

difference between the six one six universe and the Ultimate Universe, Marvel established that there's multiple universes and the six one six universe is basically the main canon everything that dates back to Marvel that you basically know and love, and Ultimate universes where all the Ultimate comics were from Ultimate Spider Man, l X Men, Ultimate Avengers, and they used to be separate. There was a weird moment of time when all the drawings in the Ultimate comics looked like

everyone who ended up being cast in the movies. You know, Wolverine looked like Hugh jackman Um Samuel Jackson got the

job to because them like that. They like the Nick Fury and the Latimate Universe came first, didn't didn't quite work out for Eminem and wanted no, not at all, and and basically the thing that but you know what, the thing that I liked about the Ultimate Universe in the first few years was they did seem to take it like just that tiny They turned up the realism dial just a little bit, and then they leaned on that mug and it went then exactly. The Ultimate Universe

was great when it first started. By the time Miles was getting into it, though, it was not falling off because like when Miles got into it, and then I think we'll get into this later. At some point Captain America took over America. Uh, they split it up. At some point, Peter Parker was dead. The X Men, it was just off the rails. It was like X Men three bad when it came back to Like the X Men. Also, I'm a pause and because I like to kind of make it a little inclusive for the nerds who might

not have that deep knowledge. The reason I said didn't work out for Eminem is if you read the original Wanted comic, he's drawn like Eminem because they drew the comic in the way that they drew it with how they would want it to be cast in the movie. They drew it anticipate in the movie coming out, so they drew it to have certain people get cast for it. Like if you read The Boys, Um, there's a character

who looks exactly like Simon Peg in there. Oh yeah, and he wrote the foreword to like one of the training paperbacks. Yeah. And if unfortunately it's he's too old to play it now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if I can whatever, it's it's past and they already cast him. But I auditioned for Mother's Milk. Yeah, I was, Yeah, and I request that one, but I'm too young, like

Mother's Milk is an older character. But I was like, I just want, like I'm getting to the point where I've I've I've been taking some swing out a few superheroes, and to me, I'm just happy that I'm taking them swing. Most recent notable audition that I did was for Ronnie de Vo for the New Audition movie. Because I'm tall, I'm light skinning, I can dance. I was like, I want to do Ronnie the Vote, And obviously I didn't get it, but there was a part of me that

I was going to say, how did that go? And I was like, well, the movie can the movies out? The movies out already? That was funny when you do tell people you auditioned for something that's out there, like how well it well, they cast me as an orc,

don't worry about it. But it's funny that you guys were talking about the movie connection because one of the things about the Ultimates and specific was that was, honestly, if you really look back on it, that was them giving Mark Miller a chance to shape what was going to be their cinematic universe. They're They're iron Man is very much like the like the Tony start that we got in the movies. They're They're Keptain America is a

little hyped up. He can like throw a volts wag instead of just chomp out of the way of one. You know what I'm saying. The six one says kept America to jump out the way the ultimate line, He'll kick ahole of your fucialize. You know what I'm saying.

He don't care they made Wolverine a little taller. Well yeah, they tried to do a lot of stuff, so but basically then they started like even they had things like Captain America when he first woke up and he saw Nick Fury, he was like, ain't no high ranking back right now? That was that That made me in a strange way. It made me feel good when he did that, because Captain America six won six. His real superpower is not being completely racist as a product of the of

the forties, you know, like think about it. He's not racist at all, And like a little bit of that bothers me a little bit because because like you hear first, Aaron really wants to No, no, I don't want him to be I just want him to be more realistic in the case, like he doesn't have to be like like deviate ly likely racist, but like just subtle stuff like oh, there's a woman on the team, or like,

you know, there's a negro, what's this? That was always my beef with Captain America when they was like, yo, this dude's ill as mill Terry leader. So when he comes to let's say or two thousand, he's going to be the dude who knows who's up on it. He's like, yeah, we need to get some of those Sherman tanks. We don't even use Sherman tanks. We have evolved. We need to get some of those M fourteen rifles, like exactly fragmentation grenade. Well, we don't even pilot our whole stuff.

So towards the end of the ultimate line that when they turned the violence up to eleven and they started killing off stuff. I do believe though, for a segment of people. I think that Myles Royllis did kind of resuscitate for certain people because I came and read the whole run way afterwards, and I was kind of moved at how they had kind of set him up with his own uncle Ben's story of him thinking he could

have helped. He gets his powers well before Spider Man is dead, but he chooses to not use them because he doesn't think that life is for him, and his dad and stuff pressure him to be like, yeah, had some issues like because like his dad went to jail. His uncle who's very close to jail, also and he was like, well, what if being a criminal is like genetic or something like that. He had those he was just a young kid. He got his powers. Peter got

his powers at fifteen. That's always been whatever universe, He's always fifteen. Miles got his at thirteen, which is it really makes it makes those two years make a big difference. And he was always like, well, you know, my dad and my uncle like idolized them and stuff. You know, but they went down this wrong path. My father shaped up, but you know, you know his uncle, his uncle still kind of a criminal. He's the Prowler, Prowler of the Ultimate Universe. It was a high tech thief he steal,

which is how Miles because his powers. The Prowler is stealing some stuff from Oscorp. One of the Spiders, number forty two for Jackie Robinson. I guess I don't know. I think so honestly, I honestly, I will say they have made like nice little references like that, Like, for example, I bring this up a lot. One of my favorite black Panther runs the most Dangerous Man Alive. When he is in Hell's kitchen, he's there as Mr Okonko, which is the one of the main characters and Things Fall

Apart a Nigerian uh novel, which is really great. Um I read that in high school. Yeah, I did too. I only got aware of it when out the roots to the album. You're like, all right, cool, I did it too because I had this English assignment which like looking like I was like, oh, that was a pretty tight one. It was like you they wanted you to read a story written by author from your you know, heritage nationality, So Ginua Chebe is Nigerian Ebo And I

was like, oh, no brainer. And my dad was so hyped, and it was like the first time I've seen him like real excited about something I was doing. And then the next day you told him you'd be a stand up comedian and he was. And then I look at this jack of buzz tattoo, right yeah, yeah, yeah, he like throw away like the lab code he had things. Doctor, just who frumpled it up? Like how Spider Man be leave in his uniform? He walked away in the rain, Doctor,

No more. So, let's jump into this deep dive real quick, just to get the first bit out of the way before the break. Miles Moronles is a fictional comic book Superhero, appearing in publications by the American publisher Marvel Comics. We all know Marvel, as Crystal calls them, and it actually cracks me up. I love that she's calls him Marvel character. Yeah,

as one of the characters known as Spider Man. The character was created in two thousand eleven by writer Brian Michael Bindis and artist Sarah Picelli, with Bndess and marvel then editor in chief Axel Alonzo, drawing inspiration from both then U S President Barack Obama and American actor rapper Donald Glover. I feel like they add Barack just to

make it sound like it has more more. It's really like it Donald Glover because like Barack was president, was there, and like when the mixing and and and the whole idea was bubbling, it was Donald Glover. Like, it's funny that they add Barack there. I think it's kind of corny. But it was after a It really at that time everything black and positive had something to do with BARACKO. But it was oh a year, so I'd say, yeah,

it really was Donald Glover. And you know, if you wonder why, he's like, why do they sound so sure? The fuse was lit after Donald Glover in an interview, said how one time he mentioned that he would love to play Spider Man and he just was targeted by racist trolls. And you can tell it was two thousand eleven because this was such a new idea to be rais who would think that people in two thousand eleven and this day and age would be racist on the internet.

But but like it was that was the big thing. It was like he was like every day, you know, uh, you know, I went on line and I would just be you know, it's like you'd never be Spider Man. Inward, it is that. And he said that that didn't get to him. What really got to him was one guy who like tried to come at him and was like, hey, look, Donald, the reason that you know there would never be a black Spider Man is because you know, there aren't any

black kids like that. And he was like that got to him more than just the blatant racism, because like, someone really doesn't believe that there could be a kid in New York who doesn't have a father and had an uncle die, who is really in a science like and I and I oftentimes repeat that with on paper, that's a black character. Like you'd be like, that's ah,

that's that's uh Patrece Parker. Right, if you told me that and told me about if you pitched that character with my eyes closed, you said no, father, like sadly, I was saying, okay, yeah, I mean, well, it's funny because it is. Not to harp on this fact, but it's a common star type. But lots of times when stereotypes like that work in the favor of like lending a new character, people like oh no that no, no, no, no,

like it's it's used to put us down. But when it's like, oh no, this Peter Parker kid, actually you know that that is like something right we can kind of relate to. It's like, no, no, that's ours. But overall, though, I think the way that they introduced smiles, I think they try really hard to give him parents, you know what I'm saying, which I really liked, and get him into like charter school and stuff like that, because that

weighs heavily on him. Like you're thirteen years old, you got bit by a day in Spider and you got all these weird powers and all the stuff, but you're just trying to keep your head down and make sure you don't get kicked out of the school. I literally on some real stuff. I cried when I read the issue where he gets into the school and his parents are super happy that he's going to actually have a

future and stuff. He's not gonna have to go down the path his dad, David, is gonna have to do whatever his mom was doing, because this mom seem to be accomplished woman. But the bottom line as it's easier for women of color a lot of the time. Obviously they have thrown travails, but a dude of color looks like a lion in the office of a lot of people, you know what I mean. So like his brother, and they find out later his dad went to shield and

did all this stuff after his criminal pass. So it's like he's hiding a dope secret agent thing from his kid, not just any sort of criminality. He's hiding it in the form of like, oh, I'll just make you I'll just let you think I used to be a criminal, but actually I used to save the world, like every Tuesday. But he doesn't want it. He wants a kid to be a regular kid. It's something that Peter Parker never really got you know, he actually, like Peter just went

head on and being a superhero and stuff. But Myles is like, look, I had these pots for a couple

of years. I kind of just want to be a regular kid, because it's like, I've seen how dangerous being a superhero can be, with like everything going on in the Ultimate you know, that's the crux of the Spider Man mythos, And I feel like that's why it's so relatable to a lot of nerds and want so many people because everyone can think of being overwhelmed in school trying to balance everything, so to imagine also having superpowers, as cool as that be, you can plainly see that, like,

imagine that a kid. Who are you going to relate more to the billionaire who used his billions to make a dope suit, the guy who got blasted with science and turns into her East, or this kid who's just trying to make it all work. Like that's that's just hands down one of the reasons I can relate to the kid who can make it all work, because those other two things would get me to die. You know, there's no bomb that's gonna explode around you and you're

gonna get magic at all, You're gonna die. But in the back of your head and you're like, I hope, yeah, I still want my mutant powers to manifest, Like to this day, to just take out the radiation smock, you have to make a fist and just want cloths to

pop out and stuff like that. I mean, that's kind of why I love my hero academia so much, because that's my biggest fears that powers do exist and I just don't have them, just like oh you're part yeah, And I honestly know that they exist because Tony Robbins has a career and you say bolt like in the same we're living in the world where there's a dude who's faster than everybody. Nobody's checking his meta gene. He's just way fast and everybody always just fast enough to win.

That's dash, you know what I'm saying That that's like some real He pulls back and like and like, I don't want to disk Tony Robbins, but that dude sucks and the whole stylist chump and he's trait bawling because he has stadiums and people come hear him be stupid and then they went across some coals and they give him money. That's powers. I don't care what do you think. That's powers. That's my favorite sequence of words, like I

don't want to dis him, but he sucks. Right, all right, we'll get into when Males Morales first appeared and get this whole thing started right after these mess welcome back to you still got Ed Greer and Aaron out here, and we're gonna talk about how Miles Morales first appeared in Ultimate Fallout number four, which was dated August two thousand eleven, which followed the death of Peter Park. As

you heard of us say earlier. So as an Africa you know teenager Miles Uh is the second Spider Man to appear in Ultimate Marvel obviously, the first being Pizza and Uh and Uh in the Ultimate Universe up until like you know, the mainstream Marvel Universe aka six, when six kind of smushed him in there. And we'll get

into that later. Although Miles is featured in the Ultimate Comics Spider Man comic book series, he's not the lead in the Ultimate Spider Man TV series, which debuted in two thousand twelve because Disney XD was scared Uh yeah. Now they're see in mad Racks because he is the main cast in this feature film Spider Man into the Spider Verse, which have y'all seen it yet? Not yet? I haven't either, not yet. We're behind the embargo, yeah we yeah, we're behind embargo. All we got nothing to

but I mean, but then y'all send it. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it on the eleven. I'm yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm going to a press Greeny I think the same day. Actually, okay, cool, so I might see you there. And I just want to make it clear I I haven't seen it yet, but if you are a person who knows all about Miles Morales and you watch the trailer, you see that they do a lot of things that are are canonized, and but they do it fresh in a quick way.

Uh in there. So I'm looking forward to seeing, like the abbreviation of it. But I just wanted to touch on when he did come out, and or rather when the Ultimate Marvel Ultimate Comics line with Peter Parker came out. One of the things they did to try to differentiate himself was to make him like have long hair and

be a little more emo. But over the course of time, it was to me always to me, it was just they were just doing the stories over again and just's refitting his villains with different sort of looking stuff and blah blah. I think they really committed to the idea of the Ultimate line on a certain level. Besides, besides Ultimate um the Ultimates, Ultimates is different than Avengers, and Ultimate Spider Man with Miles as the lead is different

than Ultimate Spider Man or Regular Spider Man. Those two books are the most different and ultimate of them, which is why Ultimate is the basically Marvel so Sema cinematic universe and Spider Man is getting his own movie. They were the things that survived the Ultimate x Man did not. They started, it started off good and then it just

went way off the rails. Ultimate x Man was just like and I also think that towards the end Ultimates went off the rails because Jeff Lobe was, Yeah, he was going through some stuff and uh it appeared on the page. Well, he took his his his life problems were definitely showing a phone the page and like it was, it was, it was. It was a weird thing because like I'm a huge comic book fan and I'm a completist too, so that makes it worse. So like I kind of have to get this thing, and I just

I gave up towards the end of it. I was just I can't do that. I could, I could mess with they had. They had a mute black panther with like Adam claws coming out of the back of his hands, but they're a real short and was like bulls eye at this point, yeah, which almost I kind of dug that for a second, like he was flicking his fingernails and people they killed his fail blady flicked his fingernails at him. I was like, that's hardcore. But one of the things that was really dope about Miles was like

they let him have his Uncle Ben moment. His Uncle Ben moment was Spider Man dying at the hands of the Green Goblin and cops, which was very convoluted, like he got beat up by the Green Goblin and then got shot by some cops because it's too slow from getting beat up like old man. Y'all, y'all chose the death of the wrong Spider Man. I guess we're just

getting too deep. But yeah, so the bottom line is like that one him having a feeling that if I had a bean Spidery or sought out some training or did some Spider stuff instead of being scared little bit, I could have helped Spider Man specifically, And so he kind of that's his uncle Ben, and I think that makes the comics dope for that section, you know. And then he has some adventures. You got little powers like

the camouflage power. Yeah, last power. Did they read that or does he know that's no, he still has them and they don't use it as much depending on you know, it feels like that's kind of like the iron fist. Yeah, you know, even more you whip it out the less kind of like it's kind of like Gambits powers. Like Gambit has, he doesn't always just charge things up with energy and make him explode. He has a power that's like called hypnotic charm, where if you don't know about it,

he can just basically persuade you to do anything. But because he's so charming, depending on the writer, no one mentions it. You know what, I must be well, in more ways than one, I'm job of the Hut because in mind, tricks don't work on me. I ain't never been a gambit. Mr and Mrs X is a really good book right now. I bet it is. It's because Rogue is cool and she can save that fool like Beyonce,

but like jay Z is cool. But you know what I'm saying, It's just like I know, I used to be a big gambit stand and then he was bad and Marvel versus Capcom and I'd let him go. Like I was like, all right, if you can't be good in fighting games, I can't deal with you, because you know, Iron Man is out here bodying people on the regular. But yeah, so it was like, um so the we basically discussed how they kind of swapped out the Spider Man.

It was it was a great story arc that happened, and that was kind of what was cool about The Ultimate Uh, even though I kind of gave it flak for not like really quote unquote really doing it, Ultimates was a space where you could try new things, and you know, it kind of was like the n x T for all my wrestling heads for because the stuff that worked it seemed like they kind of trickled over, like uh, six one six ended up with a black Nick Fury, But I think that had more to do

with the Ultimate Nick Fury launching into the Cinematic Universe and then this new thing which I will probably ran about in the end where they want to homogenize the comic book universe with the cinematic universe. But how they introduced the Black Nick Fury in six one six dumb, dumb, He's he's He's Nick. It literally is the Kurt Angle. What's his face? Yeah, it's basically my black son. What you thought of k I thought a strom Thurman. Yeah,

Oh my gosh, let's pull it back. We're getting too nervous, Like I feel like some people like, wait, wait, that's a whole another part. They have to look up actual human history from this comic book stuff. That's a wind universe. Um. But yeah so but but Myles moralest what they did in the in the Ultimate Universe. Um, And I don't

know if we do. We have to keep it to the end, because I do want to talk about how not about the Cinematic Universe homogenation, but like how they try to fold him from his adventures from the Ultimate Line into the Marvel universe. It's basically as stupid as that Nick Fury thing. It was basically as stupid. It was a press move because like that Marvel has events. If you don't know that Marvel has events, they have

a lot of them, especially recently. These are just big comic book moments where they have like big crossovers and they at the end of them there's consequences and then there's like things that happened that affect the rest of the universe. There was it was called Secret Wars. Was it? Secret Wars? Is basically, hey Miles, we're bringing you over here. Yeah,

basically you know what I called it. I called it like you know how like, Okay, there's maybe some nerds don't like sports ball, but when a team just decides to get crappy for a long time so they can lose a bunch and go hire in the drafting, that's exactly what they tanked the universe so they can trust the process and draft. Because the storyline was basically, the different earths in the Marvel universe, we're colliding with each other,

and then they all collected. They all collided, and then there was like one Earth with every universe on it, and Dr Doom was the ruler. He was the god yeah, yeah, the human torch was the sun. It was weird. This is this is how they simultaneously got rid of the Fantastic Four and brought Miles Morales over to the main universe. It was a long and convoluted storyline and it made no sense. It was it was like it was funny

because people didn't know what to make of it. It It didn't seem like people liked it, but people were like, I think I know what their game is, so we're rocking with it. And here's some important things I want to note, because you know, when we talk comics, i'd like to link up the cinematic stuff with significance that you might have missed if this is your first time

hearing it or seeing it. So first off and foremost, I want to, like, you know, highlight the exact thing mentioned that that been this kind of credits Donald Glover four and it was actually seeing him um in community. In the episode Anthropology one on one, Donald Glover is wearing Spiderman pajamas and it was a reference to the event we were seeing and Bundi said that he looked fantastic and he saw him in the costume and thought I would like to read that book and he made it.

So there's some stuff this is done that I've been like, not really messical, but him doing that, him like actively, he like bund This was at the point he was like that dude at marveled that he was like, oh, Spider Man's black nap. He took that kind of power. I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna make a black Spider Man and he was like all right, cool. Yeah. And him using his power for that is why like I'm like, all right, you're good in my book. You can I definitely agree with that. But and one thing

I'm not trying to push back in any way. But it was also the perfect storm. That's the perfect door because that that ultimate Peter Peter Parker was getting pretty whacketty. They were doing the Clones saga, and that's what I'm saying, right, so they wouldn't They went deep into the road the decks of wackness, and they was trying to find some some new stuff to flip and bounce and it wasn't cool. So then so it was a perfect like this book's failing.

If we do this Black Spider Man, everybody hates it. So what you remember Marvel used to launch a line every minute that and and for some reason still every time we touch on this, someone that got beat at me. Every last time I ranted about this on the house stuff where it's network it was on. Was like, guys, but they were launching so many things, but nobody was reading that Black Panther run. And then they canceled it on your boy, I like straight ripped it out your boys.

Pull is still mad about that forever. Don't act like you like Black Panther now, y'all, because like Black Panther has some great books. He has some great but like because nobody was reading it. Well, there was an oversaturation of comics at the time. There was, like I think, especially at this time that we're talking about about five Wolverine comics. You had so many Blades in the stands.

You had you had the Wolverine, you had Wolverine. In the next twenty three, you had Dock in everyone remember in Actually I'm like Decking more than I was rocking with Deck. Like I could see that now between X twenty three and deck and I like X twenty three because her storyline is more rich. They skipped a big portion of her history from like the n y X series, which is basically her origin story. And then she had

another comment from that deck and I liked. And then they put him on the Dark Avengers and made him Dark Wolverine, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, Well, it's just funny to me. It's funny to me how often Marvel makes some weird legacy version of their characters, because if you think about it, DC really started that stuff. DC started Booby Doole and Flash d C has had legacy characters all the way back to the fifties. THU, because like Flash, Barry Allen is a legacy character, he's

the second Flash. Marvel is just now getting into legacy characters. And even still they still don't know how to nurture those characters, right because they're bringing Wolverine back, you know. And let me go up on a tiny ramp. Hot clause, hot clause, You got hot, Your clause could cut through anything. But now the hot not a hot, not a hot. Yeah, that's the stupidest thing I've never I've never not lot of comic book based on the cover, but once I saw those yellow claws come out of it, I'm not

buying that. Basically for those once, I feel like we're going to be doing a lot of sidebars because there's just three thick nerds in here. In here man, but dock In is Wolverine son. You can nowhere by his third clause that comes from then it made no sense that that was like very just like in a bad spot, like like' just how does this work? Like I get XE hear third clause in her foot, I get that, but deck and having his right underneath his wrist, I'm like, no,

that's just somebody thought that look cool. And what's up of comic books and everything coming out your wrist? Yeah, things to come out. And if you didn't know, X three is basically a Clona Wolverine and adoptive daughter and they kind of exist. It was when it was classes and they had so many actually, and I hate and I hate being a guy to say actually actually he didn't say, so, it's not it's X one of these

recognized as his sister, Sir clowns, that's his sister. Okay, Yeah, just that paternal relationship starts to show because they're he's older than her, but right, he's a he's an older brother. But that's there. They're more siblings than anything. Okay, Yeah, and and this was like Sun's season as well, because just to take a hop to another franchise, this is right around when Damian started popping up in DC and Damien had a rough go at it because he was bad.

Then it was kind of good. And then they killed him. Yeah, once people started liking him, they Jason totted him and just which is so weird because like, honestly, I know we're supposed to talking about Miles, but that run was interesting to me because they had uh, Dick Grayson playing Batman because Batman was lost in space and time and Dick Grayson had to watch Damian every second of every day because damianould literally chops about his head off. Dudes.

He was just was like, it was like good cop back. It was the little kid. It was the perfect wrench to throw in the Batman's storyline because Batman also was getting still because they had twenty Batman's. They had Black Batman, they had bat Girl, they had they had Batman Incorporated with Bruce Wayne wanted a Batman in every country. They had Batman react World. I know it's been known that Batman has a big ego, but when you want one of you and every every let's dude think he McDonald

basically he franchise Batman. He was just like, all right, we're gonna have a Starbucks Batman, every blood two for five batter ranks coming around, you know, like mcribs, Like DC was really trying to sell toys with that because everybody had a different suit, right, all right, so let's really we really well, let's come back to that. So let's come back to Miles, and let's just go straight to the basics. So we explained kind of the origins of that and kind of why business Mate has happened.

So let's let's talk about Miles. Miles Morales. He was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, and he was the thirteen year old son of an African American father and a Puerto Rican mother. That was something that was cool too, because I like that they're like, we're not just gonna make him just the black kid. We're gonna make a man for Latino, get a little you know, killed two representation bird stuff. Also because Cassada and actually Alonso is Cuban, I think is some sort of uh

Latin X person. So the bottom line is they could see that. But then you know, the black thing was to make him notably different because they've already had Miguel O'Hara from he was the first Latino Spider Man, Miguel O'Hara. And also, this is just something that I saw. It was just like the diversity of New York because having a black dad and a Puerto Rican mom is a very common thing like cities like New York, Chicago and stuff.

You know, all right, if they're going to be in New York, let's let's make it as New York as possible, you know. And speaking of which, as far as we talked about the cinemaon accident, we even talked about this. They do gang a bunch of stuff from Miles, this interpretation of being Spider Man and went in Homecoming like his big old friend that I thought. I was like, oh, we get Miles in this and Donald Glover actually plays Probler, which is a nice perfect just bawled up No at Miles.

It's pretty beautiful. Yeah, because you've got the person who inspired Miles playing Miles is you know, and we know that there is a Miles in the Marvel cinematic universe because when he webs him up. He's like, hey, man, I don't want those kinds of weapons in my town. I got a nephew here. Yeah, so I'm like, boom,

we got him. Yeah, they set it up. And I mean and that you know, the back we even we're doing with the Secret World Hubbub is we're already creating a world where Peter Parker and Miles can co exist. So who knows what's going to happen in two in

the PS four game, we got Miles already in there. Yeah, absolutely so uh and and so getting to everybody getting cinematic, Uh, the inner the Spider Verse has a version of the story that we know from the Ultimate line, but also there and and and putting in the Spider Verse which the Spider get an event, you know, and and uhasically basically these dudes, this guy Moreland and these dudes from another dimension that the Inheritors. Yeah, the Inheritors eat Spider people.

So if you have Spider powers or your Spider totem in any reality, they will come after you. So there's a Spider Man who is a Captain Universe. He's got to have Captain Universe powers, and he's basically all powerful. Uh, there's a Spider Ham, Spider Han, Spider Gwyn, Sydney Moon. It's like they have different Spider Man for different unions, Like Uncle Ben is a Spider Man, there's anime Spider Man. There's like even the Spider Man meme is part of

this Spider verse. They include each in every version of Spider Man that you can possibly think of. And yes, Spider Hamp is a pig and it's hilarious. They have Spider Monkey, they have Spider Wolf. I thought it was telling Harken back to that ultimate line of Captain America,

being like, there's not a Negro Captain whatever. They have a thing where Miles has an adventure with Old School Spider Man and when he pulls off his mask to show that he's black, Old School Spider Man goes, wait a minute, e're a and then I go, oh, man, maybe old School Spider Man is kind of old school and bad way it's head. He goes a teenager, Yeah, they hit you with one of them. I'm like, oh no, and then they get like, okay, yeah they got us.

They played with our emotions, and we'll talk about how they played with our emotions even more after these messages. All right, welcome back. Still sitting here with Aaron Powell and my man Ed Greer holding it down. This has been a fun one we've been It's been like an open conversation dropping facts instead of going you know, in the normal order. But that's what happens when you know,

when we're tapping in. It feels like instead of an episode where we're falling along with an expert, we have three passionate expense So you know, sorry, follow this one's a little harder for you to fall along. I implore you to tweet us. We will keep the conversation going on. But I feel like we're doing a good job of

like weaving in the top and bottom. But you know, one thing we didn't touch on, and I did say we're going to talk about playing with emotions, is how people reacted to Miles and and once again, this was another thing that we were all so luckily able to

experience live and direct. And it was funny when you know, while like Stanley gave it the okay thumbs up and people like us really loved it, you had those fans out there that do what they do anytime any diversity initiative launches a diverse character, switches up or red cons

and add something. You had people complaining that you know, this is just a move for for political correctness and and you know you're just trying to check on PC, and you know there's many takes that people have, many responses and minds is always yep, so ok yeah, yeah, it's we want to be represented. So it's like yelling at a dude in the tesla, like you're just trying

to save the environment. Yeah. The one the one thing that I always brought at and on that regard is when they go, Okay, you're just doing this for diversity, You're just doing this for whatever reason. Everything is just for some reason. Everything is just for some agenda. And up until very recently, the agenda has been I don't want to call it white supremacy, but let's call it white a okay, you know what I mean. I like, hey, okay,

I like to call it that. The one rule that most waves of business go back it is called I'm white. And I say, so, that's usually that's usually the reason for a lot of things. And then when we we get something like it's a comic book character, it's a fictional character, and he had your own separate but equal universe for a long time. Want exactly they eased you into it. He didn't show up with your mom. I'm

your new daddy the East. Well, here's the funny thing about it, and here's my like less cynical way of doing it, because I try, and you know, as I get deeper in the nerves space and as we become more talking points, I try and to like take a little bit of snap energy because you know, rest in peace. John Schnapp, he always, like one thing I want to take from him is just his ability to kind of like try and like ease you into it and not be the DMX of nerdom, which I am usually want

to do. And the way I look at it is it, honestly, if we're not being just straight up cynical and we're just being facts for facts. Before a certain time, media was made for white people. You the you knew you were creating it for a majority white person. You know that the only people who needed to relate to it is white people. But what we all know now, especially as all of us are creators, We are writers, we are actors, We we work in this industry industry. So

this isn't speculative. This isn't speculation, This is just facts. When you are creating art, you're trying to touch your audience, You're trying to touch your viewers, and you're gonna do everything you can to make them feel included. You're gonna do everything you can to look on that screen and have them go, oh, that can be me. And you know, for so long a lot of people of color had to look at these white people on the screen and and find themselves in them. And in the end we

made it work. And now we're getting to a place where you're getting a lot of creatives who are like, let's switch it up. Let's, you know, create this character who you know black kids can look up to and go like, that's me. But it's the old quote about how equality seems like oppression. You haven't, you know, get

it out. And I think that that when they see they don't realize what it was like for me as little kid, to be like, look it up to thor thor, don't look like nobody has been in my family history years And I got to see myself and there's North do with a belt made of cow hide and all this jazz. But you can't see yourself in a Brooklyn

teenager when you probably was a teen in Brooklyn. Have these people who are balking at Miles lived Miles his life and say they can't see it themselves in him because of his skin, And I think that's that's that's

a weird situation. But like you said, snap energy, I feel as though it's also the fact that it's belying that jazz about there is no audience for this when I've going into several comic book stores and seeing people unbidden like sometimes I've walked into several combook stores and had a diversity and comics, uh conversation pop up as I walked in the store. I don't know what that's about. And all of a sudden, it's time to talk about diversity in comix and how whack it is. And I'm

just people. The one of the main talking points they say is black people and women and lesbians or whatever you want to connect with the Latinos, they don't really read comics. That's so so false, and I just love for that. That is also part of it. It is a business. There is a business reason beyond a lot of this diversity, and it is to sell to people who are buying comics that do not happen to look

like regular Parker. Yeah, and lots of times it's just dated information and that you just kept using, like the example that a black lead, you know, movie can't do well overseas, and then which is totally so surprised that black panthers this smash hit that is doing well. Look at Fast and Furious, which is a black lead movie, like get hit whatever you think out of your mind. Almost all of those actors in that movie, if they're not Latin X people, they're black. The Rock is black.

I'm sorry people, it's sorry people forget, but look his daddy. His name is Dawayne Johnson. D Wayne Johnson. Okay, his name is Dawayne Johnson. He is like no matter how much they've tried to poke up his I don't think he's ever played a black person explicitly on film, but Rock is a black dude. He was in a faction

called the Nation of Domination, based on the Nation of Islam. Well, he's doing the new Uh, he's doing the New Schwarzenegger where it's like this fool's name is John Matrix and he got this thick German accent, but got all the clearances with the Delta Force. Oh well, well they do that with Dwayne right now. They did John Claude Van Damage street Fighter too. Yeah, and I called him Russian

even though he has not the muscles from Brussels. So when when Myles some of the some of the reaction to him, Yes, there were some people who definitely balked at him. And there were also the people, let's kind of talk about some of the people who are just like, well, why can't he just have his own thing? Oh, let's yeah, you know what I mean, because there are some people

like that. Yeah, there they yeah, and they and they really try to try and make that strong argument of like, yeah, if he had his own thing, that'd be better than just rebranding X y Z. And really it's coming from the same place. I think. You know, I think there is a corner of people who like it is driven by racism, but I think there's another corner of people

who just don't like change. I think it could even if it was like you know, Romy Schwartz and it was like just this new Jewish kid who was Spider Man, people would be just as mad and it was just because they're like, you're changing the thing that I like, and for some reason, I'm forgetting that. I always have every future iteration of the thing. And what's the funny is, like people being mad about Miles Morales, they were actually doing that thing that people try and say where it's

like we are creating this own thing. But now it's a problem. It's a problem because like they weren't saying, could they create their own thing? With the eight kid Flashes, we've had no one. No one's saying that, you know, but but we get a black kid flash. Now it's a problem. Why can't he have his own thing? Okay, yeah, black dude running fast, kind of racist, but you know his name is Wally, which is an old black man. Well, are you happy with the first one? That second one

feel like a reach. We can't think Wallace Wallace Willis West Anyway. The thing I was thinking about also is giving these legacy characters. Personally, I think I am one of the few fans that I love the fact that he's Spider Man. I love the fact they had Spider powers, but he's more than Spider Man as well. It's almost like he's in a situation where Cassandra Caine Batgirl was

in for a long time. Cassandra Caine as bad Girl was for my generation, the best bad girl, and she she could do so many things that Barbara Gordon could not do as a as a because she was different and speak full yeah, full stop. She was different. She had a bunch of different stuff, and Myles has so many different things. I would love to see him become a character kind of like the Scarlet Spider or the

night Wing situation or something like that. If they did that organically, I would not think that was capitulating to racism or whatever. I would just think that was like, because if he's not gonna be the Spider Man of a universe, this whole two Spider Man jazz does weird be out? It kind of does. What are you trying

to do? Is like it would be like if there was a Daredevil that fought and this three three acre section of Kill's kitchen and then a Dare Deevil that was chilling in Manhattan and had better suits and better clothes and stuff. That's kind of how they did it for a minute. And now Spider Man's a poor bum again. They made him lose his company to ground him a little bit. It's almost like people forget that what they love about Spider Man is their own youth. Yea, their

own youth. They were sitting on the bed at fourteen and that was reading about this white Spider Man going through his troubles eating his wheatcakes, and that was their dude, that that you know what I'm saying. So basically, the Ultimates line and this New Spider Man is a way to reconnect Spider Man with being thirteen and fifteen, to show us the Spider Man that's thirteen, fifteen, sixteen going

through little changes and stuff. Meanwhile, we have this older Spider Man who's like thirty five basically Peters like in his thirties now, and to keep him always broke and always having woman trouble stuff you thirty five. He and Pete needs to get it together. He has a PhD company and stuff. I'm like dock Octopus did everything he can to get peace life together and then he threw it all the way. That's funny. He really is a superior. Yeah, he got everything going for Pete. But then like we

get Miles coming through and it's a fresh character. It's a fresh start. It's not. They're not rehashing the same stories with them. And although I must say his new origin in the six one six is straight up trash. They make him, they make him have an uncle Ben, that's like this duty just mat oh, I thought you were talking about six one six Miles is a six one six Miles. We'll let you read that so we

don't spoil it for you. But the way that Miles is introduced and gets that da to be Spider Man in the new six one six continuity that they put together, it's pretty trash and dumb. But as Aaron said, there is a Miles Morales who is not heroic at all, not at all, not at all. He there's in the Spider Men to Um series. It's about like a five issue five six issues mini series and Miles Morales of

the six six universe. This is a sequel to the First Spider Man where Peter Parker from six one six meets ultimate uh Universe Miles and they have a lot of adventure, have a blue adventure. Then he looks up if there's a Miles in the six six universe and he finds out turns out this Moles Morales is an adult uh, and he went to jail because you know, his uncle went to jails. Following to jail, he followed suit. Tragically, he was in the hill with Wilson Fisk, Kingpan, who

he whose life he saved in jail. So Wilson Fisk has a life debt to this Miles Morales and they are basically just like crime buddies. I guess Wilson Fisk is basically Moss Morales of the six one six, the older Miles Ralest, he's basically his Chewbacca. Like they just rolled ripping arms off hard in jail. They were like the homies and stuff and like ripping arms off and

stuff and just like you know. And then when Wilson Fisk got like, if you need anything, I got you, and he used Taskmaster to kill his younger self from another universe to try to yeah, to try to so yeah. Basically, so there is a Miles Morales in the six one six that can be explored as a villain character. And there's the Smiles Ralest, this young Moles Ralysis in the universe as a spider Man, And like I said, I would love for them to come up with a fresh

spider name for him. I would love for the rest of those Spider dudes that get killed. Yeah, I really don't. I really don't like most of the Spider Man. Most of the other Spider dudes are whack. I like the Spider Women. Spider Women are awesome, like a lot, and there's a lot of They need to change some of the names because like, uh, there's like four Spider Women. No, I mean, I mean, like their code names are actually Spider Woman. Like there's like four of them right now.

Silk is different Spider Gwynn coincidence, so it's also Spider Woman. Spider Gwen is just the name of the book. But she shows out in her own universe, so it's not she's in her own universe, so she's not around. There's Spider Woman who Jessica drew Spider Woman, um, um, Julie Carpenter, and she's like a Clona Peter. Is that the one that Yeah, there's two, Jessica drews that there's one that's a clone Peter. And then that's the other one who went on adventures with her. She went she went on

Adventures while pregnant, which was awesome. The series was great. Um. Then there's Arachne, there's ironya. These are ways can we play with this is Spider all, this is all in six one six all on the Island of Manhattan. Yeah, there's there's a there's a little bit too much Spider

in this made. Personally, I don't know how what direction we're gonna take this in, but I personally think that they should just I gotta say they should reseparate the jazz because like Sydney Moon in her own world will be sick. They've shown that Sydney Moon on another world has a superspy and basically runs the world as a doctor Doom type person who has everybody's powers. Sydney Moon is one of those characters that, like they just got introduced.

I was knew that still was awesome because she led into the Spider of her storyline and her her origin was interesting because she got bit by the same spiders Peter got bit by, but she had to get put away wherever. That's how they explained how it never came out. That's a century thing. Yeah, it was Marvel. But also

Miles Morallis actually has a thing with Spider Gwan. A lot of fans know that he has a little they got a little they've been they've been because they're roughly the same age, Like she's not aged up like Peter is. They're roughly around the same age. And you had a little little romance going on and stuff. They saw a little bit of their future and stuff too. Yeah, but

that's what gives them pauses. They saw that they're supposed to get married and when one of the worlds they're very much buried, and they got all kind of these Afro Latino whatever, Afric Latino Irish future babies. So they kind of like if you and I like that as a part of Miles and their characters, Like when you see your future, do you just embrace it right off the bat? Do you do you think, well, maybe I need to approach this more organically. What do you think

about as a possible future? Like the time where he saw himself killing Captain America? Yeah, yeah, that the whole Civil War too, which was a garbage storyline. I mean, I didn't like the fact that they wanted to revisit Civil War like there was and there was a movie coming out and yeah, and that Civil War wasn't as good as the original Civil War, and it was because

it was rushed. They fell into the trap that I feel the c falls into, which is rushing their their mythos to try and keep up with like what Marvel does. And Marvel was rushing their mythos because they're like, oh man, you know, Civil War was a real cool moment for comic book fans. I know they'll rush to see this.

It is like, yeah, but if you build it, like imagine if they did Civil War now with how many folks were on that uh Infinity War poster that was Civil War, that would be the best airport scene ever. Oh yeah, you know, because that airport scene was mad empty this time. But we like, well, we talked about Spider Verse. Like I said, I think Spider Verse, none

of us have seen it, but when we know. But I do believe from the trailer that day they do incorporate things from the common book telling of Miles Prollas. And also I think this might be in the same way that in my personal opinion, The Dark Knight features the best joker I've ever seen. And I understand everybody want to add with the Mark Hamill and this and not the other, but I'm just saying, for my money, that was the first joker. I felt that, Uh, that

was super cool. Had had his own chaos theory to him and all this jazz, and I'll presented a credible threat to Batman physically. All those checked those boxes for me, and I was fine with that. And that's the best one I saw. I think Miles Morales might do something like that four Miles in the Spider Verse movie, because they allow him to be himself for longer periods of time than he even is in his book. I mean, some people think he is it's been quoted. He seems

like a stranger in his own book. They seem up getting to the motivations of everybody but him in certain times, especially later in the run, you know when they start thinking about his place. And I also think that they kind of coddle him a little bit, like he does he's not smart enough, and I think this is whack, but he's not not whack. But I think it's interesting that he's not smart in that way enough to make his own web shooters, so they give him webshooters and shield.

But now to alleviate that term, because that might be something like, well he's too dumb to make web shooters. That's racist. Or something. Now they've given him these weird webs that he shoots out of his like fingertips and wrists and stuff that he can swing on. It's like he's making these weird you know, he looks like best genius from that hero Academia. So some of the later things that I'm doing with my else I personally think

are kind of whack. And I hope, like you were saying that things that cinematic universe kind of pushes back on the comics, and comics push on the movies, I hope that the comics will get more like this versions of Miles in the movie. Well, I feel like the solution of Miles for the future of Miles is super, super simple. It's the same way they were able to bring back Black Panther with the Vengeance and it be strong.

You gotta put a black writer behind it, or even a Latin X writer, because you need someone writing from truth.

You're saying that, you know, the main complaint is that he's following everyone else's motivations is because it's gonna be kind of hard for a white writer to wonder what a thirteen year old Afro Latino in a major cities motivations are going to be one of the main things that Brandon Bank Michael Band this was a misstep, and a lot of people's opinion was he had a big passage in there where somebody saw his his mask get

torn off. It was in the ultimate line. Somebody saw his mask get torn off towards the bottom and towards the shoulders and stuff, and they saw that he had black skin under his spider suit. And this lady blogger was like, yeah, the Spider Man is of color and also saw that. It was like, I don't want to be the black Spider Man. I just want to be Spider Man. That's right out. Yeah, that was that was I don't see color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do it. But it's it's so interesting because it is, you know,

just a touch on that. I feel like that has been pushed on people of color for so long. It was like, you don't want to be the the the and insert your race here version of this. You want to be, but you do want to be because you want people to look up to you, like, yeah, I want to be the best black comedian so that other little black kids can look up and be like I can be a comedian that being said, I don't need

my peers saying that I'm the best black comedian. Like it's it's a nuanced relationship with that type of identity that once again, like we said, can't be covered by a white writer. Because I can understand why business might think like, oh, yeah, you don't want to be known as the as the black spider Man. Is like, yeah, no, no, no, I don't want to be known as the Black spider Man to white people, but to black people, I want

to be known as the Black spider Man. So to that blogger who was indeed black, he would have been like, yeah, parts of the people. But to but if it was like, you know, little miss, you know Janice at HuffPo and she was like black spider Man, he'd be like pause.

But you know, that's a whole another rant that we don't have time for, which is about you know, nuance and approaching things and how you know this error wokeness and trying to be right doesn't allow open discussions about nuance because we rushed to have the right answer and not actually understand what's being talked about and thinking thinking that a lot of this stuff has an answer is kind of simple. To know. I mean, we're talking about

a complex reman being nuance situations. Every situation is different, So I just yeah, I would love the champion the rit earned to Nuance. Yeah, because there might be another three black nerds in here who would be like, yeah, I like that because I don't want him to be the black and they wouldn't be wrong. That would be that's your that's your opinion on it. That's slide Whisper didn't get that out, Yeah, I was. I tried to ignore it and then correct Yeah, and then it was like,

all right, we gotta gotta look at this failure. Okay, what would their parents be? They got like the pants up to their imagine this guy, Yeah he got He got a whole bunch of beat reading poems. He smelled like Patuli and like cool water. Right, Why you combined both of you? Why you got on too much cologne? Yeah,

that's that's what that appears with. Yeah. I'm just glad that they've given Miles his due and they're allowing for Spider Man and Miles to be for the for the rest of the universe, for the rest to the world to see their relationship. This is me as the Spider Man at thirteen, you are Spider Man at thirty five.

They make a very big point in the trailer to show that this Spider Man has done it all, and that's an interesting thing to be, like, have that person with somebody who doesn't know anything, and but he's also a fish out of water. He's in a whole another world. I think it's it's it's the forty eight hours reboot

that we've always wanted. I never thought it, well, unfortunately they're already doing a forty hours reboot, and I'm so mad that I'm not already auditioning for so, you know, before we go into you know, your plugs, which were about to get into right before. I did want to mention this because I feel like y'all would agree with me. Normally would be like, what are your you know, picks

of comics to intro you in a Miles. But Miles is a pretty young, uh you know, pun intended character in the universe, and I think you can't go wrong with starting with his original arc and then dipping into maybe some Spiderverse stuff if you want to hear some of the stuff we're talking about, and then just the new arc that starts after Secret Wars. I think you could probably skip Secret Wars. You can skip Secret Wars.

It's just long and convoluted and stuff, but you can. Um. They even have a new ongoing series that's about to start very soon. UM if you just want to just get your feet wet with that as well. It's gonna have a new writer, Brian Michael Business is not writing this because he's over at DC now. It is the

first time Miles has ever been written by anybody else. Really, he kept for the most part because like in Like he was part of the Champions and um, I don't think Benness wrote that all and then he was also in Um. He's been by other people in other books, but for the most part his solo books was always Bundes. So this is something. This is basically in the Yeah, yeah it is. It is a writer of color Muslim. Yes, that's going to be a spicy tag or it might just be a regular one. I don't want to be

putting stuff on him. Well yeah, well but that's another thing. Just last things last, you do get with Miles Morales himself and with certain creators of color, you do get this whole like you've got to represent everybody. That's one of the big things about Black Panther and some of the other black heroes that especially in the Marvel But it's just like you gotta represent everybody, you know what

I mean. And I think that nowadays we're getting to see that there's different parts of the universe, like you said, different different ways to be black, you know what I'm saying, there's some monolithic things, so he can represent the young Spider Man and the way he wants to be Black or afric Latino and so on and so forth. I think we're getting to an era of diversity, even amongst

the diversity, if you know what I mean. Yeah, because being black is a very diverse thing in itself, because black people in America are different from black people in the Caribbean, different from black people in Europe. So everybody can get something different from it. You can get like

Miles is is one of those he's still young. They're gonna age him up soon or whenever they feel like, you know, Jubilee has been thirteen for forty years, but until they decided that you need to have a baby, that is like, yeah, now that you believe, like twenty five, she adopted a kid. Let's not forget when she was a vampire, got a baby, she adopted him as a vampire. Well, she adopted as a vampire. Yeah, okay, I am a Jubilee fan, so I'm like, I'm cool with her development

and how she's grown. As we get it. You like fireworks and yeah, alright, where can people find y'all? All right? Um? You can find me at Aaron Rampal on Facebook. I add pretty much anybody who does not look creepy or like a complete fake profile, so make sure that you hit those prerequisites. You can have me on Instagram at your favorite skinny man and on Twitter at your favor

skinny man as you are f a v skinny man. Um. Yeah, and you can listen to my podcast Aaron explains the universe and stupid movie Tuesday, which we'll be returning soon from hiatus. Yes, yeah, super dope. Uh, this is ed Greer. You can catch me on Twitter and Instagram at Ed Greer destroys spelled how you'd thank g r e Er on the career. Check out my Instagram. I got like

a bunch of dope pictures that I drew. I'm an artist as well and Uh, I do have my podcast, nerd Goat uh that you can check out nerd Goat podcast dot com. Check that out and go to iTunes or stitcher wherever you get your podcast. And last things last, I am on Screen Junkies as if he was talking about, and I'm on there every Wednesday at eleven their show Screen Jockey's News where we cover new stuff, and I'll

be on movie fights probably over the holidays. Nice okay, And as always you can find me at if you Why the Way, if y n W A, d i W E on Twitter and Instagram, if d s on Twitch, hang out in the nerd fam discord, also the Salt Squad discord. If you are part of the Twitch family, it is discord dot g g slash Salt Squad. Danny's in there. Uh. Usually before we tweet out the giveaways, we we posted in there first. Actually that's it's simultaneously.

I don't want anyone thing and they have to join and get a school because usually I posted Twitter link because usually you have to retweet for the contest. So I I you know, just come in there, hang out, come in the street. A lot of y'all have been coming through, really been blessed by y'all, But I guess that's goodbye. Just kidding, Stay nerdy Gon