Episode 28: Tales From The Crypt

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the shirt. Fun fat fun spook. It's very spooky. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, we're wolf teen wolves. Okay, were wolves are American. Always been like, I want to be a werewolf, you know. Yeah. Um, we are joined here with someone he has been patiently been okay with us. Uh. We have stand up comedian and hore enthusiast Jen Saunderson, Thanks for coming on. Yeah. When I asked for people that were tales from the Crypt fans, you were tagged, I think by a couple of people. Yeah. People know

that I love the horror movies. Like I host horror movie events at my house, like horror Brunch, just have comics come over and we'll eat brunch and just basically Mystery Science Theater a bunch of horror movies. Yeah. Yeah. Do you watch some of the yeah, like the Mystery Sign. Do you watch some of those old black and white ones?

Oh yeah, yeah. Some of my favorite ones are like from the forties, like Dead of Night, which is like a horror anthology that's British and just absolutely terrifying at times, funny at others. Yeah, I forgot we did one. I don't know if you were there, Iffy, but I did a Horror Night at HYPERPG, which is a Twitch channel, and we were able to live stream it because we used one of the fair Use ones, like a lot of those old black and white ones they have, like

fair Use. Uh. Just a little little known fact there. But what what was your first introduction to Tales from the Crypt? Do you ever read any of the comics? I did not read in any of the comics, but I do remember one of my friends, like in I guess in elementary school, like for a Slember party, her parents had HBO like fancy oh yeah, yeah, like look at you and we stayed up really late in the living room just watching as much as we could because we knew if any parents came down that would be

turned off immediately. That's so funny. We also had the HBO package. I think we had skin a Max. Do you remember that? Oh yeah, no, I was a big, big practitioner. That was that was on the other part of my U which Hunter Robin VHS you know, Yeah, yeah, my brothers and I just used to religiously watch like those movie channels. I don't know why my parents had them, but uh yeah I remember. Also, you know, it would be like ten pm eleven PM, and it would flip

over with softcore porn. Yeah, little known facts, Little known facts. Yeah. HBO just did away with their whole late night section, so I guess you don't really need I mean yeah, Also, they still have tons of tits and stuff on that channel with Game of Thrones, so there's still there's still a lot of nudity. Yeah, but I guess now it kind of reminds me a playboy. It's like, well, you can kind of get it anywhere no one's reading HBO. Yeah. So today we are covering Tales from the Crypt. Yeah,

if he would do you remember watching this show. I remember catching bits and pieces of it, but I was always afraid, just from the intro, from the jump, I didn't even make it for but when he would pop out, I would get your boy, and that was all I needed, and I was like, all right, I can go to sleep now. Yeah. Scar Tells from the Crypt is an American horror anthology television series that ran from June tenth of nine, a year after I was born. Uh June. I think it's also that Danny was born. I was

also born that year. There's a running tally that's going to be made in this studio of how many times if he has brought up that that's the year he was born. You know, I just need people to know, for the people at home, where where where were they in their life when these things happen. Yeah, no, I get it because sometimes people get on it's like you didn't watch it when it came out. It was like, no fool, I was one like chill Chill. I caught

the reruns. Sorry continue, Yeah, but it was on HBO for seven seasons, with a total of ninety three episodes. And the title is based on the EC comics, originally educating comics, but then rebranded as Entertaining comics, because who

wants to read educating comics? Let's be seriously, that's I wonder where it is on that tier, like tier one is your mainstream like Marvel Image, and then I think under that would probably be educating comics, and then under that would be all those Christian comics they give up for free at Christian Comics. Sorry, it was Christian comics and educational history comics is what they made. What Yeah? Wow, so never mind that is that is gonna be on

Tier three. I didn't realize because I host a mental flaws and I didn't realize that they were a comic because it was like, oh yeah, I used to read those, um but yeah those in highlights you guys highlights yea, it was my jam yeah goof is and gallant though. They taught me everything I need to know about life. Uh deep cut Yeah, oh yeah, big I I was.

I was a big goof g head. Uh. So the show came from the Comics, which was an American bi monthly horror comic anthology series published from nineteen fifty to ninety five, producing twenty seven issues. So I didn't even run I didn't run that long. Yeah. So, because the TV show aired on HBO, a premium cable television network, is one of the few anthology series to be allowed to have basically full freedom for censorship. Yeah, and the

network standards and practices. I probably haven't seen like the full action version because the ones I saw were of reruns that came on late night on and those have been edited. Yeah. Yeah, so I so I haven't actually seen the full action. I'm gonna have to go back and watch. I'll see those eighties titties, and you know, there's something different about them. There's something, It's true. Yeah,

and the Bras are a little bit different. Um. Yeah, so they had graphic violence, profanity, sexual activity, and nudity. One of the episodes that I watched the other night, Split Second, did have a lot of I don't know if you remember that one, but it was like a lumberjack situation. Um. Also, you know, going back and watching them kind of problematic, you can definitely tell that they're written,

at least some of them, like by dudes. Because there were like at least two or three episodes that had the same theme, which was a woman gold digger essentially um and her being like super promiscuous or just i don't know, really shallow. And I was like, cool, cool, this is this is great, which is just funny to me because we covered the Twilight Zone and it is so different Twilight Zone. I absolutely love and women are

usually pretty empowered in those and yeah, this one. I think there's three separate episodes where a man gets a love potion and it goes every time horribly around, usually with a decaying corpse. Yeah, that doesn't sound so well. It's funny because the heart of the show, I feel like for Twilight Zone was also, you know, trying to speak some truth to social issues, where you have a show like Tales from the Crypt, which is more trying

to be spooky and edgy. Like yeah, especially when you think in HBO, Like I I'd imagine that if Tales from the Crypt was a network show, we probably would be looking back at a completely different show. But I imagine they're like, we can do what we want. Oh yeah, I know, it's like Twilight Zones. Like Little Brother, Yeah, like found its porn stash under his bed. So let's talk a little bit about the main man, the crypt Keeper.

So he first appeared in the comic um So. Although EC's horror Stable consisted of three separate magazines, there wasn't much that really distinguished them. I do remember there was a witch, let me see, Yeah, the Old Witch, which was the Haunt of Fear. She was actually inspired by Old Nancy, the Witch of Salem, which was a host of Alondo Dean Cole's radio series The Witch's Tale, which aired from nineteen one to nineteen thirty eight. So she was actually inspired by this old radio series. It's a

little known fact. Um you remember some of these I remember, Um, if you go with radio series, I remember suspense, which I absolutely loved, and some of the suspense episodes would be used for Twilight Zone. Yeah yeah, and also some of um yeah, a lot of Toilet Zone did. And I'm sure Tales from the Crypto as well used uh teleplays and stuff that they would actually buy them and then adapt them and they adapted them into plays. Later in the two thousands, I believe they started doing the

old radio format like in the two thousands. Um, so there was the crypt Keeper or was the Vault Keeper? Uh? He was the keeper of the Vault of Horror and then again the old Witch. Yeah. So the crypt Keeper was the primary host of Tales from the crypt who was introduced to the public and crime Patrolled number fifteen, and he continued with that magazine through its changes. Actually, I have a little bit of him right here, so we're gonna play a tiny bit of him real quick. Now,

that's what I I guess Liz was right. A good man is hard to find, especially after he's been chopped into so many pieces where kitties, I've got a little chopping, did you of my own? It's reduced his best day. He's always wanted final carat. Yeah, that is the voice of John Cassier. He is American actor, voice actor, and a comedian. So he little known fact about Cassier. He first became known when he defeated Sinbad for Best Stand Up Comic on Star Search. That yeah, isn't that crazy?

So he he actually beat out Michael Winslow in Charles Flesher to become the voice of the crypt Keeper, and then he went on to do a bunch of things. He plays Raimundo on Rocket Power. Yeah. He also was the voice of Buster Bunny. He took over for Charlie Adler in the final season of Tinytoon Adventures. He's the voice of Miko the Raccoon and Pocahonus. He's a voice of Deadpool and X Men Legends to Rise of the Apocalypse.

He's done a bunch of video games. He was in various roles on the Amanda Bynes show that was on Nickelodeon, So yeah, he's He's done a bunch of stuff. He was also in Monsters University and the Secret Life of Pets. So he's been around. Dude, he's still working. It sounds like two so you know, it was crazy. But as he passed at the comedy seller and the commie's good. There's some stuff I want to talk about that is just so inside baseball bat. We'll just talk about it

after the cap. Yeah. So, so, each episode begins with a tracking shot leading to the front door of the crypt Keeper's mansion. Once inside, the camera pans down the hallways and stairways and finally descended to the basement. That's where the crypt Keeper pops out of his coffin like if he was talking about and then little if he would run away and go to bed. I really liked him a lot. My husband, he says that the crypt Keeper is his favorite stand up comedian. He's we heard

him use puns. Oh yeah, he was very funny. Yeah, and it's just there is an episode where a mummy in a two faced quote unquote freak I hate to use the term. Uh. They get busy, and that's how the crypt Keeper apparently what Yeah, that's how he gets to be the crypt Keeper. That's how we get him. I had no idea that's what happens when someone is

forced to come up with an origin. Still, yeah, season too, let's figure out how this guy got here this show, you know, and we kind of touched on, you know, Twilight Zone, kind of picking and choosing, like, oh, these

guys were these guys were big. But for the Tales of the Crypt, it seems like they had a list actors just backed to the brim because they had Patricia Arquette, Dan Ackroyd, Hank Azaria, Sandra Bullock, Steve Jimmy, Daniel Craig, Tim Curry, but he showed Del Toro, Eric Douglas, Kirk Douglas,

Corey Feldman, Brett. The list goes on, and it's funny because you know, when you're hearing when this show was out versus some of these names, it does seem like some of them were at different points of their career,

like they caught some of them early. But it's it's really cool to see just I don't know, it's kind of cool looking back on shows and seeing like, oh they did that, Like I feel like the last time I kind of felt that similar energy was my buddy was watching the Office and you're like, oh, yeah, Schmidt came from there you had they J Krazinski, who is now Jack Ryan now but there's an analyst yeah, and the director of an amazing film, Quiet Place that was him, Yes,

and his wife that's crazy. I shouldn't know her name. And her wife Emily Blunt. Um, and she has her own I mean she has a Kinsky is married to Emily Button. If he looks how are you not? You need to go upstairs to the Daily Zite guy's office and read all of their They have so many um what are they called? Like? Okay, no, but I was going to call him their trash name or whatever, trash mags um. But yeah, no, but I mean Krasinski married up Emily Blunt. That's all, Okay, so I wanted to Yeah.

So Tom Hanks was also on Tales with the crip um meat Loaf, always getting to eat in that meat loaf get like you know, meat love heels had a good streaking acting because he was in Spiceworld two. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah. We also had Katherine O'Hara, Brad Pitt it looks good, Iggy Pop, Martin Sheen Brookshield slash, John Stamos. Of course we did um Arnold Schwartzenegger, Twiggy, Adam West, and Billy's in because how could you not, Yeah,

because he's in Demon Night. Yeah. They also had a lot of famous directors or actors that were also directing some. They had Michael J. Fox, Tom Hanks also was directing, Kyle McLaughlin and Arnold Schwartzenegger, and then they also had Robert Zemeckis, Richard Donner. Yeah, they just they just it was a lot. They freaking packed it. So I wanted to go over some of the number one episodes. Um, some of the ones that I polled were from a bunch of different sites that kind of ranked them. But

before we do, gen, what are some of yours? I guess Okay, yeah, my favorite a one, hands down because when uh, when you invited me, I was like, what is my favorite one? What do I remember? That scared the crap out of me as a kid, And it was definitely, um sorry, it was definitely only skin deep. I don't know if you guys remember that one. It's the one where this abusive boyfriend goes to a party. It's a Halloween party and he's um having an altercation

with his girlfriend and he goes our ex girlfriend. He goes into the kitchen and he sees this woman and she's wearing a white mask and kind of a latex outfit, and he ends up going home with her and and they decide masks on, like just you know what, an an amenity, an anonymity. There we go masks on, I don't want to know about you, you don't want to know about me, and they just have a lot of fun and any other channel you probably wanted to be able to see most of that, and that surprisingly wasn't

any of the parts that I remembered. What I remembered was that the mask was her face and he was trying to take it off, and he was scratching her skin off because that was like that white, creepy like China doll style mask was her face, and she was

chopping off the faces of her ex lovers. And I had one of those like creepy tropes that you've seen all the horror movies now where there's like one guy and he's shaking violently like they do it in Jacob's Ladder for like the first time, and he's just like ah, And you see that in the episode, and it's just fun to see, like those creepy horror tropes that were so used to sing now being introduced slowly in the eighties and early nineties. So she took him. So how

did they meet at the at the Halloween party? But they weren't but they had masks on. Oh, and he was like to take off everything but your mask exactly so they wouldn't know. And then he was trying to take her mask off. Well was that against the rules. Yeah, yeah, he was just getting so angry. He's like, how do you not want to be with me? And yeah, but that was Yeah, that is pretty terrifying. Um, yeah, I think any mask, yeah, not being a mask. Maybe you

don't want sex with creepys masks. Yeah, you know people see eyes wide shutting and all of a sudden they're trying to you know that life. That was okay, Like who was like Fidelio, I'm in I definitely that that is my gym. Like I remember, after seeing hackers, I went to a hacker forum to try and learn to be a hacker, and I was like, oh, this is probably how you get hacked. Just giving all your information.

The hackers will be like teach me please. Hackers trying to be one of you guys, I was going to say on this is According to screen Rant, their number one episode is dig that Cat. He's real goal. Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah yeah yeah. So that was season one, episode three. It was directed by Richard Donner, who also did Superman and Lethal Weapons. Uh this is uh. The synopsis is the Vagrant Ulric is invited by Dr email Manfred to mant to participate in a medical experiment. In return,

he would receive his savings. Dr Manfred implants a group I always love, like, I love this idea of like a crazy scientist and being like, and you can get all my money, you know, like that happens. I mean I would love it. I'm sure there's a bunch of kids out there with student loan, so like I will do it. Um, that's actually what I think those medical tests are that you see the you see ads for um. Dr Manfred implants a group of cells from a cat, and Ulric is able to die nine times like what

is so specific? Ulric contacts an owner of a side show, Barker, and together with his mistress Coralie, they make a successful show where Ulric dies in front of the audience. But it sounds like he can only do it eight times? Has he forgot? When Leric uses the eight life, he schedules a great last show for real. Yeah, so this was their number one that they said from screen rants. I don't know if you remember this episode. I do. Yeah, it was it was terrifying to think, okay, see just

the idea of being buried alive. Yeah, yeah, I was just rewatching Kill Bill Volume two. That's scene. It's just so like, I just think about it so much because that has to be like the worst to just like here, because they, you know, does a good job of like really capturing just when you see the nails come down and the light go out and then you hear the weight of the the dirt coming on top. It was

just like it was so good. I don't know if you remember, but Ryan Reynolds was in a film called Buried. Oh I vaguely remember that film. I mean there's a that's a a like a common Yeah. I think there's a couple of them like that. So according to Bloody Disgusting, their number one is the new Arrival. So that was season four, episode seven. It was a pompous radio psychologist Dr Alan gets Um. Yeah, like Mr Fraser Crane is told that he is in danger of losing his show

due to poor ratings. In a bid to remedy the problem, he decides to visit the home of a regular caller, Nora, a woman who has continual trouble with her badly behaved daughter Felicity, a move which he believes will be a great publicity stunt, accompanied by his long suffering producer Bonnie and his who wrote this? It says in his bitchy boss Ronna, you know who wrote this bloody disgusting um. Also, if you don't agree with these number ones, please write them.

Don't write me, but you can write them. You can. You can write us, tweet at us at Nertificent to let us know your number one favorite episode. These are just different ones that I took from different sites. But in this particular one it was pretty gory. There was um Felicity kind of had set it up to be essentially like a murder house, so there was randy ceiling fans, electrified door knobs, razor blade like dark hallways that were

lined with razor blades. She's a H. H. Holmes. And then it was directed by Peter Meddick, who went on to work on the wire and breaking bad. Yeah, and Jen, you were saying that this had the lady from poulter Geist. Yeah. Yeah, every time you see her, she's just you just she scares the crap out of me because I think of Poltergeist. So she's such a good force. But Poltergeist, none of the ones that I looked at they had like honorable mentions. That was death of of some salesman. But I know

that that was one that you liked a lot. Can you talk about that one? Yeah? So that had Ed Bagley Jr. And he was a con artist trying to get people to essentially buy plots of land for their for their grave sites, saying that their lost love had just put down a down payment for them and that they needed to pay the rest of it to be able to get the inheritance. So he was just you already don't like him from the start. You're like, okay,

you're a con artist jerk. And then he goes to a house that happens to have uh, a whole family played by Tim Curry. Yeah, just like automatically, I'm entertained. I want this to be an hour. So the family absolutely hates salesman and you realize that they've been murdering salesman and they have a daughter who's up on the second floor, and they said, well maybe if he marries her, he can stay alive. What. Yeah, that's such a random Yeah you really? Oh what is she like? Because she's

also going to be played by Tim Curry. Oh yeah. So they end up having a relations and he proposes to to her like a con artist, uh, and claims to be getting She claims that there's a fort inheritance dowry in the basement and that she needs to dig it up, and he ends up, am I giving too much away? He ends up killing the father and the mother and saying that we need to run away together and let's grab that inheritance, and he shoots his uh,

his brand new wife digs up this grave. Essentially, it looks like at the end, grabs the inheritance and it turns out to be the very scam that he sold them, and then everybody was in on the hoax. So the mother and the father are not dead. It was I guess blanks and the wife, the new wife bride gets up and they end up killing him and there's a fresh grave right there to do it Dune, Dune Dune. A little known fact about this is Eddie Murphy turned down the role to play mob Paw and we're known

a bracket, so I went to Tim Curry. I mean, it is funny because so when did this come out? Yeah, it is funny since you know Eddie Murphy did play an entire family with the clumps, so very fascinating. And then uh, Tim Curry was nominated for this. He was yeah, but it went to uh someone for pick Up Fences. Wait, was it an Emmy that he was nominated for? It was an Emmy or goal Is Dominated for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series, which unfortunately went to Richard

Kylie for his performance on picket Fences. It because everybody's like, let's go to the Picket Fences podcast. So we're going to get into some more of our favorite episodes, also talk about some of the critical reception of the show

and it might have felt the possible reboot. We're going to do that right after the break, Hey everybody, and welcome back Shah Boy if you why a way, and we're talking about Tales from the Crypt with that spooky laugh that scared me every time that's not quite it, you know, you do something like that, it just sounds like the Simpsons kid, good Old Nelson. There you go. Yeah, so, Jen, you had another couple of favorite episodes that you wanted

to talk about. Yeah, one of them is All and All through the House, which was that was used in also in the nineteen seventy two Tales from the Crypt

movie which had Joan Collins in it. And that's where the wife murders her husband and she's trying to take care of the trying to clamp the murder, where she overhears that an insane man is on the loose, and then uh find that this insane man is trying to get into her house, so she can't call the cops otherwise she'll be automatically found out as this murderous uh.

And so she's trying to lock up this house and it's just incredibly suspenseful, and her daughter actually ends up opening the door to this insane man because he's dressed up as Santas. What she deserves, not the daughter but the mom. Also, that's just so weird that she like kills her husband on Christmas Eve a little and she like tucks her daughter into for bed and then does it so normal. Yeah, I better go kill my husband now,

time to go. This was directed by Robert semckis pretty cool. Yeah, this was actually I forgot someone did have this as their number one. Let me see if I can find it. It was Rancor. Rancor put this as their number one episode. Um so that really Yeah, that stood out for them too. I would also say other ones that I liked. One of them. I just felt like it was the most extreme versions of men and women for the series was

dead right where Demi Moore just looking absolutely flawless. She comes out and she's a gold digger, like you had said before, and she goes to um a palm reader to try to find her fortune, and she's told that she's going to lose her job and get a job immediately after, and she does. And then she's told she's going to meet a man and he's not going to have money, but he'll come into money soon after and

then he'll die. So she she finds this man and it's Jeffrey Tambor in a fat suit, is wonderful, just looking the most vile he can and he's a patron at a strip club that she ends up working for and she's like, I don't I can't be with this guy. I don't want to be with him. Are you sure he's the guy who has all this money? And she says, yes,

he is. You need to go for it. She ends up marrying him, and then she wins some kind of lottery and it turns out that she's the one who inherits the money and she tries to leave him and he goes super toxic masculinity and starts killing her, saying if I can't have you, no one can, and he kills her inheriting her money and then gets electrocuted for the crime because he gets committed. Yeah, this was second

one was in two different than that. I would say, yea too different weirdly enough, but I mean there was a lot more flannel because it was lumper jacks. But yeah, not not too too different. It was a gold digger who, um, I guess she marries this like really older uglish guy and then he catches her with another a younger man, and um, and then they both actually end up getting chopped in half and chopped up? Is that where he

was coming back from when your cliff, that's what? Yeah, exactly what's what's interesting is like for that the Jeffrey Tambor one, that one, actually I was so interested if he didn't kill her because that would have been an interesting because she she's the bad person. And then like, you know, it's the typical twist. But they're like, now we're going to have him like that almost that almost seems like he has to get Like someone is thinking like he has to get his and I was like, no,

his would just be getting the money. That's extra. But it's funny because we're not necessarily funny. But they say, you know, horror comes from you know, people writing about the things that they're most afraid of, which is why you know, uh Rod's Serling wrote a lot about isolation and being stramped because you know, he dealt with being

in World War two and hated it. And it's funny that, you know, this show with pretty much successful writers, their biggest fear is these golden yeah and and but instead of leaning into it and letting the horror live in the like that, they're like, well, we're also going to make sure that they get there's too, you know, like it seems so over the top and unnecessary. It's that

classic thing that they say. Um, I don't know, it's not a slogan, but it's just this saying that I've been hearing a lot lately that men are worried about women laughing at them, and women are worried about men, you know, murdering us. Yeah. It's truly very you know, similar playing field. Um. So you were also talking about during our break, you were talking about how Danny Elfman

did the music for the show. Oh yeah, yeah, he did that, um, the theme song to it, and he also did the theme song for Simpsons and he also was an Oingo boingo like was not done because it's sp October. I was actually listening to Dead Man's Party on the way over here. Um I saw, if you remember, I was saying that. Um. Every year, So every year at the Hollywood Bowl here they do uh live thing

of the Nightmare before Christmas. But every year they're like, this is the last year, this is the last chance. So I went. I think I went last year because I was like this last year, last and I've never gone. So I went. And it was Danny Elfman and Catherine O'Hara and Paul Rubens like they had the original cast and it was great. And then at the very end and like they would show, you know, scenes from the movie.

The orchestra would play, the people would come out and sing, uh, the actors would and then at the end he did like he played with Oingo Boingo. But then it's back this year and you can't do that. You can't do that. It's it's never actually gone away ever. I love Nightmare Before Christmas one of my favorite favorite movies. Um. But yeah, so Danny Elfman. And then they also had other music for this show. There was a Christmas soundtrack. I want to know the family who played that. I don't know.

Some kids. I feel like some teenager might have been super into it. Um. There was a Christmas album called have Yourself a Scary Little Christmas. Um real stretching with that one, they had songs that were performed by the cript Keepers, such as Juggle Juggle Bills, which was a play on jingle bells. Uh and yeah, it's just a lot of a Christmas rap. Wow, I would love to hear what that sounds like. That was the early nineties where everyone was trying to do and it was terrible.

Rap were in And then there also was a metal album that came out called Tales from the Crypt Monsters of Metal. So so there you go, go check those out. We are going to take a really quick break and then come back with more spookiness from Tales from the Crypt right after these messages. Hey everybody, if you why

away here sitting across from me, Danny Fernandez. Yes, we're joined by Jen Saunderson, and you actually wanted to talk about one other one, which was the ventriloquis one, which is actually a common theme because if you do remember, we talked about this in the Halloween episode and twilight Zone because there was a goose Bumps one. Remember Night of the Living Dummy. Um, the Dummy was a Twilight Zone episode and now we have it in Tales from

the Crypt. Yeah. Yeah, they so had an in debt of Night in n and that was that's still terrifying. But the Ventriloquist Dummy, I believe it was season two, episode ten, and I had two great comedians. It had Don Rickles and it had Bobcat Goldway. And instead of having it be like this dummy is possessed or something like like out of worldly, this was a situation where the dummy a my spoiling is No. I mean it came out when in the nineties and if you if

you haven't seen this, like everyone can chill. That's what our podcast is like, unless it came out last month. No, but if everyone can chill. Seriously, so big spoiler here, Bobcat. He's trying to get tips on how to be this great ventriloquist, Like how don Don Rickles is. I'm always worried I'm gonna say his name wrong. And uh, it turns out that it's because hasn't attached a conjoined twin on his hand. That's a different spin to it. Nor

that's a different spin to it because normally that's so hilarious. Also, dizzy poop, I mean they gave you boobs. They gave you cursing, not defication. I mean that's where my mind goes to because your hand is up. It's like a puppet. Where is your hand going? Um? So yeah, because that's a twist on how it's normally done. Is a puppet comes to live, you know, it's like, no, this is a real person. They're just like on his hand. I

love it. That's so great. Yeah. Yeah, but that was a very common theme and probably will continue to be a theme. Actually, do you remember the film at all?

The tales from the Crypt movie. I remember Demon Knight fairly well with UM with Billy Zane, your buddy, Billy Zane is a cool dude, and UH also had Jada Pinkett Smith and well I think she was just Jada Pinkett at that time, and it was about an ultimate demon Billy Zane, and he had a slew of demons coming after to try to find this vial that had

like the last droplet of christ blood. Because all of a sudden this got real creepy religious and it was um, everybody was shocked up in this kind of roadhouse bar in the middle of nowhere fighting off demons, and Jada Pinkett Uh ends up swallowing the blood, becoming the vial herself. I'm not explaining this very no. No, there's so much going on in that movie is so foggy for me

because I had Yeah, but I totally remember, Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's just like super hazy from the parts where like I was allowed to watch as a child as I had to cover my eyes. That also happened a lot like for some reason, HBO. I think was always showing um true lies. Oh yeah, and that same thing Jimmie Lee Curtis also because we talked about her in the last episode, but um screen coeen. Yeah, the True truly

And I'm really excited for that film coming out. Um yeah, yeah, I'm going to see it this weekend for Beyond Fest. That's so cool. Yeah. Um, So moving on to the reboot that didn't really happen, Um, if you do want to talk about that, Yeah, this is this was crazy because it was wrapped in controversy and also just like we're talking about with the Chucky issue that we talked on the last episode, this this kind of a walk

down a similar line. So Tales from the Crypto was about to do a reboot, but apparently they were going to do it without the crypt Keepers, so well, yeah there was a reason why. Yeah, apparently it was going to be a weekly anthology like the original show, but without the crypt Keeper because basically it seemed like they had trouble kind of locking down the rights to it. Uh, And what happened was Cassier finding out called basically called out that the crypt Keeper wasn't going to be in it,

and fans just exploded uh. And Cassier's response to the fans outcry and outrage was that it's funny I have more trending going on with my name for a job that I don't have than any job I've ever had. Uh And yeah, it actually landed a change dot org petition. I don't know why we're still doing that. Like so many times people will make a change dot org petition about something like is is it really gonna do anything where it's like you're a senator, like I need to

get John Cassier to be Yeah, exactly. Like the only change dot org petition I stood behind was when there was one to change the name of fire Ants two Spicy Boys, because I still think we need to fight that. Yeah, we need to make sure. But what about the women, you know, well, you know spicy as can be women, spicy friends. Well they have to be there that the queen is the ruler, that's the queen, that's the spicy queen. Yeah, she's the spicy queen. But we we we we were

We haven't thought it out all the way through. But you know, cool thing, you know, you could be spicy, spicy ants or spicies maybe just spicies. I think the Spice Girls are holding onto the Spicy Girl. Yeah, yeah, they're blocked us out. So I guess it was supposed to be on T and T and uh they had

problems with the rights in general. It seemed like it started with the crypt Keeper and then it just eventually turned out that the whole series had issues and the underlying and basically Turner Network issued a statement saying that the underlying rights to the classic find To property are complicated. T and T and others have been pursuing a solution for more than a year, with significant progress being made.

We look forward to the potential for further active development of this valuable franchise once the clearance process is fully resolved. And since we still don't have a show to this day, I guess it never was. Yeah. M Knight was actually really excited about doing it too. Um. I was watching an interview where he was talking about it, and I guess it just didn't go. Um. I feel like that's right up his wheelhouse. Yeah, a lot of disappointment with

m knight. Shamalan. Yeah, well, I mean I actually like the happening. What you know, I've had, you know, someone say they like the happening too. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I also feel like it is the same message that Poison Ivy has because she just feels like the reason why she kills humans, she doesn't even want to kill humans, reason why she does if she has to, is because they're ruining the planet and she just wants to save the planet. So um or plants. So there you go.

But yeah, I guess the reboot it didn't go. It didn't go, So I don't know. I don't know the future of this show or if I'm sure it's kind of crazy because I'm sure with how much we're capitalizing on nostalgia that this will probably end up being something. But since it seems like they can't get the like if he was saying that, it seems like because they can't get the rights to the crypt Keeper, that it might not. If it does move forward, we'll have to

move forward without him. However, do you think that they could have something similar to him? You know what I mean? I mean, I don't think it's it's not Tales from the Crypt without the crypt Keeper. Remember they had that, which, right, maybe if they tried that, Yeah, I mean they're having was it like just a couple of months from now

they're going to be relaunching Twilight Zone. Yeah, so I feel like if they can do a third installment, I think they've redone twilight Zone two or three times at this point, plus the movie, I feel like they could do Tales from the Crypt maybe Son's crypt Keeper. Yeah, let's just call himself? What is like a call him like a knockoff? You know? Yeah, there you go. And he has like a raspy voice instead of a high

pitch one everybody, I'm the grave Watcher. It just sounds like he's like a Sunday like Sunday Sunday gold Diggers. Oh yeah, look, maybe that's maybe that is the move. Uh. I one final thing that we want to talk about. There was a critical reception of the show when it came out. So, um, this was from Chris william nine in the l A Times. There's nothing cryptic about Tonight's premiere trilogy. I love remember if that's my that's my weakness when movie reviewers have to use like puns and

things like that. What was the other one that I read? It was like these kids are stiff as a board or something. Re member. Oh no, it was for um, Avatar, the Last Airbender or something. Um, there's nothing cryptic about Tonight's premiere trilogy of Tales from the Crypt HBO is

anxiously anticipated horror anthology series. Perhaps befitting its garish comic book origins, the series looks to be about as subtle as a sledgehammer or I'm sorry, I just I always pictured critics, even though you and I are like movie reviewer adjacent, I always picture critics as that critic in ratatui.

They're just always in a bad mood um, and we work with them, so I know, um, they're probably gonna write me, don't write me, I don't care, or a fireplace, poker in the cranium, or an arrow in the chest. So he's talking about the original series that we all like,

loved and grew up with. It's funny because I do think we look at it with an air of nostalgia and this person hated it um or an air on the chest or any of the other dozen or so methods of dispatch on view in the three episodes tonight at ums and you just basically zone to talk about the show. So that's fun. But it was still really popular.

If that's how I feel Venom is gonna be yeah, you know, I yeah, itam's coming out and I have a bunch of our friends saw it tonight and their reviews are already up, and I feel like that's how people are going to be, like, it's not good, but go see it because it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, you're so right, that's that. I'm just so surprised that there's a Venom movie that's out and I'm not excited about it. I thought you were saying you're not in it. You know,

that's a lot harder than being excited for Yeah. So, is there anything else that you wanted to touch on about Tales from the crypt Um. I think, just going off of what you're saying, I think there's always going to be a really strong niche for horror movies. Um books just be movies, series, etcetera. And I just think no matter what critics say, there will always be like one or two outliers that they get excited about, like

Hereditary or get Out. Yeah, and well it's it's I mean, horror has had a good streak when you look at like the conjuring get Out, Hereditary, which yeah, like I just meant like in this like Colonel Show, I mean horror in general, guy, I mean horror in general is good. But I feel like horror has been hit and miss. Like especially what we talked about last episode was when

we got into the Gore porn type of horror. I think people just kind of dismissed horror, and they think now horrors kind of having its renaissance with so many you had, it follows that a lot of people want to watch, even the Baba Duke, which has which is both a meme to uh. So that's what's so interesting, especially if you think of something like Conjuring having a more stable and popular cinematic universe than the DC universe. You know, like, that's interesting to see where horrors are

going now. And it seems like now also using the wave of this new popular string of horrors, we're starting to do reboots because we have Halloween and then before that, which which we just had a reboot but I forget the name of it. We have um, we have the oh no, that's not a reboot, but we have the Child's Play one that's coming out. Yeah, the Child's Play one. So it's interesting. Now we'll see where this goes. UM, probably the day. Remember the day we dropped our Avatar episode,

they announced the new show on Netflix. So just wait, um, I hope the day we drop this that it will be announced the new Tales from the Crypto Netflix. I'm sure that would. Jen. Where can everyone catch you? I'm always around town doing the comedy. I'm going to be That's all I call it, doing the comedy at the Pack Theater and at different comedy club. Ups are just at Jen Saunderson dot com or at Jen Saunderson on Twitter. Hell yeah, and I'm at ms Danny Fernandez on all

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