Episode 23: How The Dragon Ball Franchise Came To Be

of my favorite RPG franchises. Today we are talking about Tenchi Muyo, which, yeah, today we're talking about big oh um. These are all things that you're gonna be like, yeah, I do that. But when you said that, though, could you also cover Today we are talking about The Great Mouse Detective actually one of the not as well respected but should be Disney animated films. We're talking about the

dragon Ball franchise. Yes, we're talking about the dragon Ball franchise, the franchise that's so huge that it doesn't fit into one episode. This episode is going to cover just the franchise as a whole, a little bit about a curatory AMA, and then we're gonna sit down with our good friend Kylie bear Uh and talk about just what it was like working on that franchise. This won't go deep in a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball GT, dragon Ball Kidgona Super. Yeah, no, those are those have to

be its own episodes. But this is for everyone listening and who may have just been wondering, like, what is this dragon Ball Z thing I keep hearing about? This hype? This? This will give you a crash course into it, and then one by one you'll get to go deeper. This is the the preface. I'm not the preface. This is

dragon Ball one on one. But also if you are a huge, massive fan, like if he and I are, and just to give our background, if he and I started podcasting together with a dragon Ball Z show called krill in It because Krillan is a character from dragon Ball from this franchise, so we had we we actually dissected each episode already on that podcast, and then we had a dragon Ball Super podcast called krillin It's Super,

which was also live and interactive on hyper RPG. So we have extensively covered this and we do love it a lot, and if you're like us and love it a lot, we want to talk about why we love it. The history of it and the present and the future of it. But as far as deep diving into each particular saga and character and all of that, that's going to have to be another episode. Yeah, no, it's it's long.

I said, it's not even just being funny. It just really is a very deep, dense history which is gonna be funny based on a few things we talked about today, because unbeknownst to me, just with the research, it turns out that this is another goofy thing that seemed to get deeper through time. It wasn't it wasn't meant to be as as deep as as one is taking it now.

But buckle up, we're gonna talk about a little little man who was born in Nagoya, Japan, and when he was in elementary school, all his classmates drew imitating anime and manga as a result of not having many forms of entertainment, and he believes that he began to advance above everyone else when he started drawing pictures of his friends after winning a prize at the local arts studio for a picture of one and one Dalmatians began to

think art was fun. That it was a lot of time between when he started drawing too when he thought art was fun. According to this article, there are so many blogs, articles, and videos about the man that is a Curatoryama. Yeah. What I wanted to say, honestly before we even got started, was that I feel that Dragon Ball Z in particular, which in my opinion from being in the community, is the biggest, most notorious of all

of the dragon Ball shows. I feel like z is is one of the big although Super is getting up there now, and I'm sure Dragonball people are going to write me. I understand that as as well, but just here in America because Dragon Ball Z was a thing that was introduced onto Nami. I actually think they had

it four kids. Um what I was gonna say is that it's so people will write me and be like, oh, because I I have Goku and Vegeta, who are two characters that will talk about a little bit, but um, I have them tattooed on me, and people will be like, oh, that's a norm e anime, this mainstream anime, and it's like, well, it's mainstream now, But a curatory Yama ended up influencing so all of the anime and manga that you're Super into. Now, that's like Nietzs and maybe it's like newer and coming

out and you're like, oh, I love this. Probably influenced by him in some way. Like some of the biggest franchises that have come in the last decade or so have been heavily even their creators have said they were heavily influenced by a curator Yama. So I just needed to add a little bit of respect on our man before we continued. I mean, I feel like that's just

a part of just anime fans in general. I remember when Kanye tweeted out that the creator of a Kira was A was a genius, and someone replied to that tweet where it's like, Kanye, please watch sword art online. It's a better anime. My brain almost exploded after reading that. But it's just but it's funny because it seems like it's a anime specific thing. But I think it is a specific to pop culture where you have your thing, and your thing is your favorite thing, so you have

to fight that it's the best thing. That's why you have Star Trek versus Star Wars when the real winners actually Battlestar Galactica. Yeah, much more mature, much more Actually, it's so funny. I haven't even watched that much Battlestar Galactica, but it's been though. It's been the one that I've gravitated towards him, like this is cool cylons baby, yeah

but yeah but yeah no um a curetor. Yama actually didn't just even though he thought art was fun, he didn't just jump and he was one of those people who just started doing animation. And that's his whole story. He actually worked at an advertising agency in Nagoya, design and posters for three years. After quitting his previous job. Storyama entered the manga industry by submitting a work to an amateur contest and a Jump magazine in order her

to win the prize money. That is so interesting to me because these are multiple instances that we have a curatory Yama winning contests with his art, and it almost feels like that might be a part of what influences the idea of Dragon ball Z, of just this constant contest, but of strength. I think he got a job from being that good. He's gotten, you know, he got he won an award when he first learned how to draw

because he was that good. It's just super interesting. Even though he won the contest when he was a kid, he did not win this contest. Uh. And while he did not win, Kaziko Torishima, who would later become his editor, contacted him and gave him encouragement. And then his debut came later in eight with the story Wonder Island, which was published in Weekly Shown and Jump, which still runs till this day. Yeah, and so just go back on.

Shown In, which we've talked about in previous episodes but shown in manga, is essentially similar to Calm, Etcetered geared towards young males, but um, you know us ladies like it too. Yeah, I know they separated by shown in and Show Jim, Show Joe. I think, yeah, Show Joe and shown in. But dudes like Show Joe, I bet, Especially because it's geared towards young people. It's like, oh, what's going on over there with those shirtless men. That's

honestly why I think it's funny. Whenever people would be like Dragon ball Z is for boys, I'm like, no, they're like shirtless, They're like buff as hell. And I'm very confused. Slash aroused by this in middle school, and uh, you know, my favorite dudes and skin tight spandex. That's vegeta who will get into but yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah so so even though he had his debut and shown and Jump, he didn't really rise to popularity until the comedy series Dr Slump, which was serialized and weekly shown

and Jumped from eight to four. And it follows the adventures of a perverted professor, which that that that's a common thread. That's a common thread with Toryama. Yeah, and his small but super strong robot. He began the series at age twenty five while living at home with his parents, but when the series ended in nineteen eighty four, he was a manga superstar. I think he was actually a multimillionaire. But really, yeah, that's super crazy. Well, I mean it

was made into an animated series. I mean it was made into anime. Yeah. Yeah. He actually ended up going on to win award for Dr Slump it earned him in nineteen eighty one, it earned him the Shogakukan Manga Award for Best Shown in the Show. Joe Manga Series of the Year, a very successful anime adaptation aired on TV from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty six, with a remake series airing from seven to ninety nine, and by two thousand and eight, the manga had sold over

thirty five million copies in Japan. This is interesting too because this is just for all intensive purposes up until you know. Dragon Ball really took off his most popular property. It is, it is his bread and butter. Yet most people know a curatory ama from the dragon Ball series, and I think that has more so to do with the import aspect, because I feel like early anime that was being imported to the U s it was the serious stuff. You didn't get the like comedy stuff coming

to the US. Uh, except for um Canuku Man. I feel like Anukuman made it here. But that was that I felt as far as growing up for me, that was the closest I got to comedy anime. Uh. If anyone grew up on some comedy anime, please let me know. I'm curious to know what you got. But yeah, I dr slant was something I kind of slept on. I I didn't even like. There are some people who like find a work and then find everything else they're creator

has created and they'll find it that. I don't do that much often, and I liked Dragon Ball Z, specifically dragon Ball Z. I haven't even went back and watched all of dragon Ball. Like dragon Ball Z has the double whammy for me, it's the excitement and the nostalgia. I'm sure dragon Ball is exciting. Actually, I've watched more dragon Ball than I realized because I always thought the Garlic Junior saga took place in dragon Ball Z, but it actually it was a dragon Ball saga, So who knows?

It's it's all the same, literally all the same, because just jumping ahead a bit, dragon Ball Z basically was just the later versions of dragon Ball. Yeah, but I would argue that they're so different tonally, where dragon Ball is much more comedic and kind of lighthearted to some extent,

whereas dragon Ball Z is much more serious. I feel like dragon Ball honestly has kind of more adult humor and gags than I feel like Z does, And I didn't feel like that was the tonal shift that added the Z. But I feel like it's not insane for a series to switch its tone. I feel like a lot of series nowadays. We'll start off trying to think of a recent series that started off kind of light and then it got dark, and you're like, what happened.

I think definitely in the same boat as anime. I think doublemn cry Baby starts off and presents a completely different anime than we land off. When we get to the finale, I'm like, oh, yeah, it got me. It got me with the doo wop in Weekly Shonen Jump began serializing Toriyama's Dragon Ball, which became an instant hit. Today, it has sold over one hundred and fifty six million copies in Japan alone. I used to buy it here. Yeah. So it began as an adventure gag manga, but later

turned into a martial arts fighting series. Considered many to be the most influential shown in manga. Dragon Ball was one of the main reasons for the magazine circulation hitting a record high of six point five three million copies. That's just that's really cool. Like that's insane that he just like put out this this insanely successful with Dr Slump manga and then immediately followed up with Dragon Ball. I mean he was like on cloud not he was

on Nimbus. Now, Nimbus is Nimbus for everyone that doesn't know, is the cloud that Goku rides on that you have to be pure of Hearted in order to ride um So. The series success encouraged Toriyama to continue working on it from four to nine. At the series end, Toriyama said that he asked everyone involved to let him end the manga. He was like, just let me end it. He's done that before though. Two Yeah, like we'll later see that

in Dragon Ball Z. I feel like as well. But people just love it so much, and I think he's just I think at times he's ready to close that chapter of his life or even in instances where he's like killed off a character and it was like, no, this was the right thing he said, so he could quote take some new steps in life. Yeah. No, It's it's so interesting because this is the second thing I

love that the creator is going through this. One of my top favorite bands of all time is The Gorillas, and it's a if you don't know what the Gorillas are, it's a cartoon band led by Damon Alburn and he collaborates with a ton of amazing musicians to make good music and originally started as this fake cartoon band. There was a story behind it, and the veil was up.

I didn't even know it was Damon Alburn, even though it's they sound identical, but I wanted to believe it the same way I won't look at any pictures of Daft punk with their masks off. I would do any like research into who's behind the Gorillas because I liked keeping up that that mystery. But as popular as the Gorilla's got, Damon Alburn hated it. It It was it was kind of like his I don't want to say hated it, but he kind of grew tired of it. He wanted

to do other musical ventures. He didn't want to do, uh, the Gorillas, and he kept leaving and he kept us hanging so many times where I remember he was like, I'm I won't do the Gorillas until I do a Blur album, and he keeps leaving and coming back. And the way the Gorillas are now is such a far cry from where it started. Where now it's like very

obviously Damon collaborating with people. Where I feel like from Gorillas to about Demon Days is when like they kept the ruse of this cartoon band going and then there's beef with the artist, so same thing here. I feel like a curatory almost like I'm done with this. I need to make something else, especially coming off of one banger series to another banger series, you would imagine he's like, I want to see if I can do another being a creative art like a creative person, you know what

I mean. Like also, just like if I look at him as a creative it makes sense that he wants to move on with the different storylines move you know, right out, certain characters move on with like it just it makes sense that that he would want to And we're the ones are like no, please give us Yeah. And also it makes sense to me, like the math here makes sense because dr Slump comedy hit dragon Ball starts off as a comedy, then it gets serious and

then everyone's on board. It's blowing up and he's like, wait, wait, I want to do comedy. So it really does make sense. And if you notice in Super the comedy ramps up. That was one of the most important things to him. That is very true about a curatory Ama is that he has said that the humor is one of the most important things of his franchise, and even um Toyo Taro, who worked on Dragon Ball Super, said that that was one of the most important things to him, was the humor.

So you're exactly correct, and it's funny because that's not exactly why some of us watch it or or when you think of dragon Ball, definitely think of comedy, but I think of dragon Ball Z that's not the first thing would be there. But yeah, So just to wrap up this, during that eleven year period, he produced five hundred and nineteen chapters god that were collected into forty two volumes. So the success of the manga led to five anime adaptation, several animated movies, numerous video games, and

a ton of merchandise. So we should get into what these are. What is dragon Ball? So again we said it was created in nineteen eight four. Dragon Ball was initially inspired by the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West. There's a lot of elements from Journey to the West that are in dragon Ball. The series follows the adventures of the protagonists son Goku from his childhood through adulthood.

Mainly his childhood, i would say, is the majority of dragon Ball, as he trains in martial arts and explores the world in search of the seven orbs known as the Dragon Balls, which essentially, when you gather all seven the dragon balls, a wish granting dragon named Schanron appears and will grant you your wishes. Another fun connection between this and the Gorillas, Oh my gosh, so much. Jamie Auburn went on to produce Monkey Journey to the West,

which was a stage adaptation of that story. A lot of the art for it, to the promo art and stuff leading up to the Journey to the West was done by the artists of the Gorillas, Jamie Hewlett. So in my eyes they're in the same universe. And if you if Jamie Hewlett doesn't jump out at you right away, Jamie Hewlett was the artist of tank Girl. Okay, yeah, so the art for Grillas is so good. The new artists so good and uh and I love everything around the Grill is the lord that used to have a

flash website. If you are you trying to hijack this episode and make it a Gorilla's episode. Oh, this is just my longstanding plot to prove that the dragon Ball universe and Gorillas universe. Well, you know what, if I will say that Goku when he looks at a full moon, because he has something called a saying, which is an alien from a warrior race. They have tales and they turn into giant apes when they look at the moon. Henceforth, therefore,

in conclusion, they are gorillas. Okay, And if you would have let him just loose for a little bit, I'm sure you would have grabbed a guitar start singing. So that's dragon Ball mainly. I when I'm explaining dragon Ball to people, Goku when he's when he's younger, Goku as a kid, I'm sure this is very triggering to dragon Ball fit. That is not all it is. It's not all it is. There's so much. We were introduction to Boma, who is a brilliant scientist and a teenager who invents

the Dragonball radar. She ends up inventing the time machine. Everyone always asked me, like, who I think the most influential character, most important character is in this franchise, And I say, Boma. Without Boma, you don't have the radar to find the dragon Balls. But also, she invented the time machine that they later used. She invented an antidote that saved Goku. She tamed a wild ruly man and made a small child who ends up saving the world.

So moving on to dragon Ball Z Yeah. Instead of continuing the anime as dragon Ball Toey Animation decided to carry on with their adaptation under a new name and asked a curatory im to come up with the title, and he came up with dragon Ball Z specifically because he wanted it to be his last dragon Ball that he did because, like I said, Toyama did not want to do this. No, I don't know about that. I felt like he was done with it. He was like he was he was done. It was like that scene.

This is another reference that you may or may not get, but it was like that's Sen and Man on the Moon when he's trying out new material. The Man on the Moon was about Andy Kaufman. And then he did the show Taxi. He didn't want to do the show Taxi because he's that weird kind of comic who's like, I do this weird comedy. I don't do sitcoms. He

does it. He's trying to do material on stage and they keep asking him to do this character from Taxi, and I feel like that's Howtoryama had to have felt with people asking Dragon Balls and he's like, I got these new drawings. I've been at this point. I've been working on these dope games, dragon Quests don't y'all want a dragon quest and I mean, no, give less dragon

Ball Z. Yeah, well, I don't know. I feel like he still wanted to at least carry he loves that man loves Goku, like really, at least from the interviews and stuff that I read. I can't speak for him, but I can tell he he don't have the same love for Vegeta. Okay, he doesn't have the same love for Vegeta. He definitely loves Goku, and I think he did actually want to carry on his legacy. And so dragon Ball Z follows Goku now as an adult and he is now a dad. It picks up five years

after dragon Ball left off. It premiered in Japan on April nine, nine, taking over dragon Ball slot, and ran for two hundred and nine one episodes. I want to tell you guys something when when Because I went on Machinima's show to teach them about dragon Ball and they just asked me, like my top three favorite episodes and the like, you can't give those to them. You have to they have to watch the whole thing in order

to understand. I'm like, no, no, no no, no, honey, none of my friends are gonna sit down and watch two nine one episodes of something. If I'm just trying to introduce it to them, like it's it's a bit much to ask when they also are watching Game of Thrones and all of Marvel, Netflix and the c w d C shows and like, you know and and uh my Hero Academian and you know. So anyways, One punch Man

Attack on Titans. So I just want to say, asking someone to watch two episodes, which Iffy and I tried to do for our Dragon Ball Z are krilling it man. By the time we got dynamic with was a whole saga where they were traveling to Planet Namic, which took up many episodes. It was a bit much. I will mention that every anime that you listed is an easier watch than to try and watch all the dragon ball Z like Attack on Titans only going on his third season.

One punch Man only has one season, Hero three. You can you can watch all of those. Do you love my shown in theme? I don't know why. I just gravitate towards that. I mean, because it's great. I was also like, it's so funny. I really like One punch Man. I enjoy it, But you do have to go and watch, like my hero dragon Ball Z all the animals to really really appreciate one punch man. Yeah, because it's making fun of them. Yeah, because my buddy watched it and

he's able to enjoy it without seeing any anime. But he's like, I'm sure there's jokes I'm missing, and I was like, like, my favorite one is when Gino is telling his life story and side Tom is like, shut up, Like because it is true and anime every character has to tell you their life story when you meet them,

and that was funny on the nose joke. Yeah. So Dragon Ball Z follows the adventures of adult Goku along with his companions and as he defends the Earth against villains, just like Dragon Ball and moving on to Dragon Ball GT. I mean, you don't wanna dabble in the introduction of

your boy vegeta. I feel like, when you're real quick, I understand, I understand why you might want to focus on Goku has the greatest charnector arc here, but it's the arguably more character development and Goku because Goku doesn't need it. Why fix what ain't broken. You can't relate to someone that's pure of hard than doesn't make sense. Superman and Goku. I relate to both of them. He does, you are a very naughty person. I followed you on Twitter.

There's no way you'd be able to stand on nimbus. Yeah, he can't. That's very confusing to me as a man who has made two children. He can see he's still pure of heart because doing doing the deed, because he

had no idea. Goku, in case we haven't clarified, is not the brightest bulb, but he's like your little brother that's dumb, and you love him because he has a big heart and just just a little more clear for anyone who maybe has never seen Dragon ball Z, the whole kind of story of Goku is he is so the same race is a race of aliens who conquer planets, and when he gets to Earth, he bumps his head forgets his memory, and it seems like it does a

little more than make him forget his memory. He's a little he's he's kind of like the doofy strong character that you've come to see in a lot of me. Like almost in a sense, said Tomas, like because I Toma is caring about the cell. But when he has to kick someone's but he kicks it in gear and I think that's a very fine example of the type of character that Goku is. And even if you haven't seen Dragon Ball Z, but you've watched anime, you've seen

that character before. Vegeta is almost the complete opposite. He is a very driven. He has a very which is funny because I imagine a character like ready for the discussion, but hear me out. I feel like Narto shares a lot more traits then Vegeta, even though you see a lot of Vegeta traits in Sousc, I feel like the the kind of desire to get stronger for a goal

is something you don't see in Goku. I feel like Goku wants to get stronger for fun, and that kind of driven for a goal is that you see in a character like not at the is kind of more of a Vegeta thing. And then you go full Vegeta with south Gate, which is like I need to be better than you, um, which is Vegeta's drive one percent Batman Goku Superman, So they have that dynamic Vegeta Tony

Stark Goku Captain America. Yeah, wholesome. So if he I do think that we need to get into dragon Ball GT, dragon Ball Kai, dragon Ball No, No, it's dragon Ball GT isn't on my list. I only have a dragon Ball KAI. So I guess we'll skip dragon Ball GT. Well, you know the thing you need to know about dragon Ball GT is that alright, let I can just give you the first sentences on our research and then should

tell you everything you need to know. Unlike the first two anime series, it is not based on the Cura Toyama's original Dragon Ball manga, being created by Toya Animation as a sequel to the series, or as Toriyama called it, a grand side story of the original Dragon Ball Toriyama designed the main cast, the spaceship used in the show, the design of the three plan it's, and came up with the title and logo. In addition to this, Toryama also oversaw production of the series, just as he had

for the dragon Ball and dragon Ball Z anime. Five years after the end of the dragon Ball Z anime, ten years in the Funnimation, dub Doku is turned back into a child by the Black Star dragon Balls used by Pelf and is forced to travel across the universe to retrieve them, along with his granddaughter Pan and Trunks.

The trio go through various adventures in their journey to find the black Star dragon Ball until they encountered Baby, the evil artificial toughl who intends to destroy the saying race, there's a lot more dragon Ball than that. You got Ka, you got Super And we'll touch on that a little bit with a friend, Collie Bear. Right after these messages, welcome back to our introduction to the dragon Ball franchise, and we are going to talk about dragon Ball Kai.

Dragon Ball Kai was actually pretty popular. It's something that I feel like it's a It's a shortened remastered version of dragon Ball Z. And when my friends asked me how to get into dragon Ball Z, I normally point them to Kai. I actually, truthfully, very honestly point them to the movies. So the movies are typically about an hour.

They stand alone from the series, and I think that's a much easier way if you're trying to give people kind of like a quick glimpse into the series, is to introduce them to a movie as opposed to the entire series. But if they are wanting to go down that road, I normally tell them about Kai. So In February two thou nine, dragon Ball Z celebrated its twentieth anniversary and uh they rebrought so Toy Animation announced that it would broadcast a re edited and remastered version under

the name Dragon Ball Kai. So the footage would be re edited to follow the manga more closely, eliminating scenes and episodes which were not featured in the original manga, result teen in a more faithful adaptation as well as a faster moving and more focused story. So people that don't know, Dragon Ball Z is notorious for having filler episodes. Their episodes where nothing really happens, and I personally love them because I feel like it's a slice of life

into the characters. And the reason why is because they were making the show quicker than they were making the manga, so they had run out at that point and so they had to do filler episodes while they were waiting for the manga to be released. Yeah, this isn't unique

to dragon Ball Z either. This is something that has happened and not though and a lot of shows, which is why the anime is usually run a lot longer than the manga's because they have to feel they have to fill the time between the story with filler episodes, which is why you get an episode of dragon Ball Z. We're Goku in Piccolo. Piccolo is a green the Machian alien from the planet Namic and I go to the d m V. They go to the d m V and they learned how to drive even though they can fly.

But you know, it's a great episode, great outfits, highly recommended, probably one of the most popular filler episodes. I agree. Dragon Ball Z KAI reduced the episode count to one nine. Yeah, that's from two. Remember we said dragon Ball Z originally has two episode. So they cut all a lot of stuff out and just kind of got to the meat and it's at one and fifty nine. They also damaged frames were removed and they yeah, they made it prettier. They had a lot of Actually, the remastered the Vegeta

and Goku fight is beautiful, one of my favorites. Then we were blessed, truly, We're truly blessed because on April fift Toey Animation announced that Dragon Ball Super, the first all new dragon Ball television series to be released in eighteen years. Oh we waited. That's a full grown adult, yes, and a debuted on July five and ran as a weekly series at nine am on Fuji TV on Sundays until it's series finale on March this year. It was after one hundred and thirty one episodes. When you're a

dragon Ball fan, you are committed. Okay, you are committed. How many episodes does Friends have? I don't know, Seinfeld, but we're looking at each of these, each of these series. We're talking dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, g T. If you're into that, Ky, if you're into that too, and Super, I mean you're a committed fan to watch all of this. So so the story is set in the years after Majin Boo, which was a character which was a villain and the dragon Ball Z series, and the Earth has

once again become peaceful so cured. Toyama is credited obviously as the original creator as well for the original story and character design concepts. Dragon Ball Super follows the adventures again of Goku and his friends, but this time Goku encounters beings far more powerful and attains the power of a god. So he defends the Earth against the powerful destructive deities and travels to other universes, this time to

face more powerful opponents as well. As nearly unstoppable foes while learning his newly discovered powers under the Gods of the Universe. Yeah, it was just the next place it could go, That's what you're saying. So, what's what's more powerful than like the levels of super saying we've seen

before and it obviously was super saying. This reminds me of Marvel and d C because I feel like they start at the this, you know, the street level, which is like your your Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Peter Parker, and then move on to the the like I feel like, what I like to global scale than space then universe Marvel, which is interesting because cosmic Marvel and Avengers only intermingling

with big events like Infinity War. But I felt like the way it was presented to us in movie forms, you would assume that Avengers were bigger than Guardians of the Galaxy depending on who you talk to, I feel like super comic book nerves are like, no, I've always known that they're the same, but I feel like you're average Watcher was like, oh no, the Adventures of the Big Dogs and the Guardians are joined them, but it's like, no, the Guardians of the Galaxy are the Avengers of Space,

and I, you know, hopefully we really get to feel that in the next one. I feel like there's it's just the way the story is told and how and who we've had time to gravitate towards and love, and you know, we've only gotten Peter Quill normally. Also, I think it's because but you don't have like you're Captain America or Stark, Like Peter Quill's kind of a goofball. See, it's hard to kind of take him seriously as a leader,

but I do Iffy. Yeah, before we bring in Kyle, I just wanted to touch on the animation process, Yes, please do for how this whole thing works moving from manga to anime. So, when dragon Ball first began airing on Fuji TV, digital animation did not exist and the majority of the franchise was animated in the traditional fashion on celluloid sheets. And in recent years, the dragon Ball franchise has entered the digital race with numerous features, theatrical

films and in dragon Ball Super coming out. Um they also have a new movie coming out this next year. And what I was gonna say is they're working so quickly and they have a little bit of a turnover as far as animation, where there's a little bit of argument in the dragon Ball community, as far as the animation of some of the dragon Ball Super episodes aren't always on point. Maybe we can include on our Twitter Instagram some examples of that so you can see what

we mean. It doesn't bother me as much. I feel like they're trying to get this content out as quickly as possible. But I understand, especially when you look at some other anime that has been afforded the ability to really work on, Like our friend Lashawn Thomas. His the anime that he's working on is Whof. That's his one thing. Like how a Curatorama just wants it to be funny, Lashawn just wants things to look beautiful. He's obsessed with the animation of It makes sense that that's not tory

AMA's first priority. We're gonna take another break and we're gonna come back with our friend calibert to talk about some of the character to like my folio sat or impression. Yeah. I was like, right, you know, that's just wrong with it, and we're going back. I am iffy way the way one of your hosts nerdificent. I'm Danny Fernandez. I felt like I was cutting you off there you were, but

I'll let it. I'll let it slide this time. But yes, we're sitting here a good friend of ours, probably one of our favorite friends, who don't tell our other friends, none other illustrious, the man with the golden voice. That's that's what they call him in the streets. You may not know this. He's the man with the Golden voice, the man of a thousand voices. Man. I don't know if that's correct, but we're gonna round up. Um it is. Voice actor Kylie Bart. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for

having me. Thank you. Next time, I'm dragon Balls. I'm that guy. Yeah you are. You are the voice of many people's childhoods and adulthoods Um you'll I mean Kyle's nixt oxtensive voice acting as well as anime voice acting, but specifically dragon Ball related the voice of adult Gohan, who had a huge crush on So technically, I guess I had a crush on your voice as a as a teenage girl, a teenage Danny also the narrator. That's that you just did that? Man, you ruined so many

people's weeks. He's the most powerful dragon Ball character because he is God. He decides when stuff goes down and stuff stops because of a commercial break or whatever. You know. Yeah, yeah, also ox King ox King. Yeah, So so to go back because I just skipped over that Gohan is the son of Goku. Um ox King is Gohan's grandfather. Kind of incestuous. They're like, yeah, your just voice. If you

got Goku, you would have gotten the full chain. Yeah, and then Bar Duck, who's Goku's dad, you could have been him too, And then you could have just been the whole and go to him. Now. My my first gig voiceover was was on the Bardoc Special and I was like Horned Guy number one or something like this dude with big horns that his gang takes on Bar. Of course they get their butt handed to him, but I was like, this is a special moment. Man, I'm on a show that I'm already a fan of. And wait,

so you were already a fan? What was your first introduction to dragon Ball? Then five? I want to say, the now defunct and America magazine had a cover story on dragon Ball and I read it and I thought, Wow, this is fascinating. This is this is different than like Charlie Brown or The Simpsons, where everyone goes on for years and years and stays the same age. This one actually goes in someone like a linear pattern, you know,

a little Goku. He grows up, he gets married, he has kids, and you see the kids grow up and then they have kids. It's like, all right, this is cool. It's like that part grounded a little more in reality, making a little more relatable. It's not just oh anime, you know, you know, I go without listening out the bankers because you know, we are talking about Dragon ball Z. But like Dany said, you have a thousand voice. You are you uh fighter Yeah, and we're talking about One

punch Man earlier and you were Atomic Samurai Summura. It's so funny because I've heard your voice so many times and not realize it because I just jammed through One punch Man recently and nice, I just assumed that I'm hearing you at this point. Yeah. Well, the Twunami block on Saturday nights on Cartoon Network, it is like the Kylie Bear cameo because I was cocking on JoJo's Bizarre Adventure start as Crusaders. I'm Kiba still on on Narutosha

Putin and um, of course that's wrapping up soon. But um yeah, yeah, I'm on Hunter Hunter and as moral see, if he calls it hunter hunter, we've been wrong this whole time. Oh man, no, no, these Look we've had some voice actors that call it Hunter x Hunter, but I mean there are hunter hunter x Hunter, but I mean they're not on it. But like right, we've had people rights, but we gotta go with what Kyle says. Yeah, well yeah, because it's directed by Tony Oliver, he calls

it hunter Hunter. Yeah, because I mistakenly going in there, It's like, so, what tell me about this Hunter x Hunter. It's like no, no, no, it's not like a shipping thing. It's like a Hunter x Hunter. Like not quite. That's settled if in the Nerdificent Encyclopedia. Yeah, see another another another thing we should settle right now. It is Reu not Ryu. Yeah, conferred that learned that the first time I met you, and now I dropped. I dropped that fact at parties. I mean you know, I dabbled in

the f GC, so I kind of already knew. Okay, mom, almost you've already. I've been training, you know for the past uh thirty years uh, and soon I'll be able to step up to the plate. Go all the way at EVO. I'm coming for you. I'm coming for xnic Fox. You're ready coming for your face. I know that's were you following that at all? No? No, and yeah, not at all. You're like, I'm DVZ out. Yeah, I'm good. See, I'm casual gamer, so I button mash. Those guys would

call me in ten seconds. I love Dragon Ball Fighters. I think it's an excellent fighting game, and that's found a good fandom following, even for people not fans of dragon Ball you know, it's like it's just an excellent, well built, well constructed fighting game for people of all different skill level. Yeah. Yeah, if you're not a big game or you can still play Dragon Ball Fighters. I know because I did. I actually we were in like a tournament or something. I mean it was like a

casual one that was happening at this bar. But I beat the first person I played against. I did you do it by stamming and hitting square? Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, I did pretty good. I think I put No. I like messed around a little bit. But people mistakenly think that I'm a gamer and I'm not. I can only be into so many things, people, I can only be into so many things. You are also Professor Oak for Pokemon for for New York minute, because

that show is recorded in New York. But for the case of Pokemon Origins, that four episode anime series, uh, they did for whatever reason, cast it in l A. So um. I took that role for that for that very brief run there. So I know that that funimation is based out of and they're the ones that dubbed dragon Ball Z and they're based out of Dallas or Flower Mound. So do you do all of your recording here? I do now. When I was doing Kai, you know, over the past decade or so, I would have to

fly into town or if I happen to be there. Yeah. Yeah. But now technology has gotten really good with source connect and and and and be directed over Skype, and these these apps all talk to each other so they can direct in real time and make sure everything sinks up with the lip flap and all that stuff. So I'm able to stay here. I mean, yes, it costs them extra money because they got to rent the studio out

and all that. But but I get to drive, you know, just across town, as opposed to taking a whole day flying out, you know, for hundreds of dollars, losing all the money you made because anime pay is crop. It's true. Yeah, But so you were saying that you were a fan of the series before you got on board. So did did you feel like that made it easier for you to jump in and do these boys because you're like,

I know what this is. Oh yeah, yeah. When I when I first went in for the auditions, it was an open call back in the summer of two thousand. I get there and the receptionist says, Okay was living in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah, I grew up in Dallas at a radio job. I was on Radio Disney. It was a DJ and Radio Disney. So it was Kara Edwards who's Fidel and got in. By the way, we were on the air as like a team show. You know. Wow, so you've known her for a long time. Yeah, we

go way back, okay cool? Yeah, yeah yeah, And once we we we got that voice acting bug and everything, and we got in with Funimation started on Z and you know, there's the ball was rolling. It's just crazy. Yeah, so it let's go on. The first role for them that you booked or were you go on? Go On was the first thing I tried out for because I picked it out of the notebook. They said, just just pick whoever you want to read for. I opened it up. It was Gohan. I knew who that was, Like, I'm

reading for that one. Everybody else I hadn't seen up to that point. I only seen the first two sagas here and there. You know, the Canadian dub, the Ocean dub isn't with you know, Scott McNeil as Um Piccolo and Brian Drummond as Vegeta is like and you know four or five different Gokus, Peter Colombus, Ian Corlette, Kirby Murrow and so on. It wasn't even Sean Shimmeley yet. Um so yeah, yeah, I fell in love with that stuff. I was watching Pioneer put Out, like the Dead Zone

movie and all that stuff. So I was watching this. It's like, this is so cool. I have Yeah, I know, go around the Apartment just next time on Dragon Balls. Fast forward five years, I'm working on the freaking show and I was just like stoked fanboy dream times too. You know, I wanted to get into voice acting for animation. Done, and then I wanted to be on the DJ. I'll be a DJ on the radio. Done. And then I get on a show that I'm a fan of. Done. Oh yes, So did this open the door for the

rest of yours? I think so because of the momentum of dragon Ball in the first incarnation of two No. I mean those big nineties early two thousand's when kids would come home every day and watch that stuff. I got to to roll in them. As they stopped airing the Canadian dub and then starting with the trunk saga, went to the Texas cast, and then that went forward and then I was riding that way. Man. It was like and then you just have no idea that you're

affecting a future generation. Yeah, that's what that was gonna be. My follow up question, What do you feel the point was when you realize, like, oh, this is bigger than I thought it was. Well, it was just by the sheer amount of interest and enthusiasm on a global scale. I was. I was getting invites to convention still do luck. I'm so blessed that I get to travel the world and talk about something I'm passionate about and something that

means a lot to the fans. And um, you know, while I'm not a therapist or I'm not a doctor, I'm not curing things. I like to think that entertainment is therapy. And you know, I'm one small piece of the pie. With all the creators, writers, producers, editors, mixers, you know, all the talent involved behind the scenes, all the people on the network level that get that show out there and everything working from partners in America partners

in Japan. Now dealing with this beheamoth of of fandom thanks to social media and awareness and streaming and all that stuff. So yeah, yeah, it was unreal to to ride that that wave. Remember when Suncoast Motion Picture Company, Remember that it had an anime section and a Dragon Ball Z section. Gosh, yeah, the biggest anime definitely the biggest anime arguably Onto Nami. But honestly, I mean, I think the only thing that rivals it as far as

being mainstream here would be Pokemon. Yes, yeah, totally. But now it's just its own just beast, and that's all you can really call it. So you so you started off as was the first one, the bar Dock. Yeah, yeah, I started off a bit part voices because they hadn't quite gotten to that episode that story arc with with the Orange Star High and Go Hunt in high School and everything. They hadn't quite gotten there yet, but they wanted to get the casting done in advance, and they

knew they were taking a gamble cut you off. You already had it, but you were just waiting for it to catch up kind of because they said, we wanted to make sure because this is your first time, and you know, there's there are people that are very established actors that come in here and the beeps and matching the lip flap throws them off. Yeah, because I don't think people, I mean, you are not just voice acting where you have to match something the animation that's already

been done, because it's already been done in Japan. It's already in Japanese. So you're not only that, but the writers are having to work so that the words are matching, like you said, the lip flaps and stuff. And see, nowadays it's a whole different ball game than that those early days where censorship was king and Japan just wanted to get the shows on the air and reach the widest audience as possible, and that means children and the compromises. The FCC steps in and tells you, oh, you see

that cigarette, turn it into a lollipop. Villain has a lollipop. So it wasn't until I finally we got two redubbing Dragon ball Z in the uncut form, and I couldn't believe how bloody and violent that show is, Like this is not a kid show. Oh yeah, no, not at all. It was, but it was such a wild ride. So so you said, like the mouth flap thing was was kind of daunting for a few voice actors. Is that still Is that still a thing where you kind of

have to deal with the beeps? Or have have there been technological advancements that made a little There are different methods. The one that I work with the most, and I think a lot of the l a talent pool that deal with with anime and video games, like the cut scene stuff, you know, not the dialogue per se, but the cut scene stuff where there's at least rudimentary like animatics or something where you're trying to match timing of

something that's still done. That that's pretty par for the course. Now, I've also worked at studios where you have the dialogue coming across the screen like you're playing Dance Dance Revolution and you have to say the word when it hits the red line. Yeah, there's different proprietary versions of that, and I dig that version. I think that's cool. I have a question because you've voiced so many people, and I feel like this is taboo to ask, but like,

do you have a favorite favorite? Is the next one, the next thing that's coming, Because when you're a freelance contract laber, you don't know where your next meal, Yeah, your bill is going to be paid, And it's like, hey, you're basically hired and fired all the time. Because if I come in and I'm a bit part voice and

I'm in one episode of one show, that's it. I'm done until hopefully I get called back and I auditioned for the next show or story arc or whatever, and if I get something bigger than yeah, there's a few more hours. Here's some crumbs, and then video games pay

way better. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, then what are some of your at least I would say with you voicing gohan Um, what were some of your favorite like arcs of his or like sagas that you got to voice or remember having the most fun getting to do totally. You know, from it sounds selfish and totally egotistical, but saying great, say man, because it was all about Gohan.

It was about his dorky side, which I totally am in tune with, and as much hate as I've seen from fandom saying that was terrible, it was like, no, I loved it his most Gohan this Yeah, yeah, because you already know he's a badass. Okay, it's like, well, what else does he bring to the table. He's naive like his dad, but he's really nerdy. He's super super duper nerdy. Yeah, and I love playing that aspect of him.

But of course, you know when you play the big, strong, muscle guy who could just bring it and all that and be a killer team member, absolutely so much fun. So then if you were just moving from doing radio to now doing voice acting, Dragon Ball specifically like Dragon moll Z has so many powering up scenes, how did you like work up to being able to do that? Well, you first get constipated and then you know, it's like,

I think that would make Sean Schimmel mad. When fans would say, like, you sound constipated, It's like, well, how are you supposed to sound when you're exerting? You know, like I try to do it and like the just the um stress it puts on your throat, like unless you're properly trained. Well, you know, it was kind of

our boot camp for now. You know, as is widespread and mainstream as video game recording, especially for l A talent is and how much RPG first person shooters and fighters and all that require a lot of screen me and you're getting people in the talent pool going, I'm not used to this, and it's like, oh, I got this, man, I've been doing this for years, like I've been born

for this. I know. That's been funny. I think the funniest thing the few times I've done VR work is just when it's like all right, effort noises and you're like and if you're doing on a on a game, it's it's like structured a little different because the footage is usually not there. You're just doing three takes in a row of the linear script, just your lines. You

have no context. You're you're depending on your director or the client to tell you what the hell are you talking to or responding to, or or like okay, three open mouth punches, three closed mouth now major damage, you know, you know, and they save all that for the end the dialogue, this whisper stuff, the narration, all that's done first, and then they blow your vocal cords out at the

end of the session. Yeah, so you know, just to just for all those aspiring v o v a s listening that are at the edge of their seat where like, asked something I want to hear. Uh. Something I find whenever I get VO auditions that I've been like, wow, you guys got it rough is sometimes you'll get auditions where you just get wines without context, where it's just like this, this is what they're saying, and you're like, I'm supposed to act, but you're giving me no context.

What do you feel helps with that type of stuff? I think if the client is and this is up to the client, I mean, if they have the foresight to give you at least a basic short and I do mean short summary. It's like, tell me what I absolutely need to know. I don't need a three page exposition showing the holy world building universe that you have at all the sub genres, like no, no, for the sake of this audition, what do I need to know

about my character? Preferably a picture of him, an age range, some sort of vocal quality, maybe an MP three or YouTube reference to It's like we kind of think I like Christian Bale and it'll have a link and I'll listen to his delivery in that and it's like okay, so they want something like Christian Bale, but not just like Christian Bale, so that it becomes that juggling act where you want to give them something that stands out and we'll hopefully nail the gig. I know that's always

the dice role of like standing out or hitting it. Yes, So I don't know who watches Rick and Morty in here, but white women all got invited in that episode where all those they were trying to find those like fake people,

like like they had the imaginary people. And then there was the character Tinkles and he did the song like some are in Tinkles fens at the end, group text the whole anyone who know that I'm the only one anyway, They sent it to everyone on my improv group and it said little John DMX type, and they sent the track to do it to everyone else of my group, who are smart people the foresight to do it to the tempo of the song. But I'm like, nah, I know what DMX sounds like. I was so focused on

sounding like DMX and so it literally was summarinty cools friends. Still, it was so slow, and like after we submitted it, we all listened to each other's and everyone laughed. They're like, if you what are you doing? I was like, well, it's soon to do Little Jaws. Sometimes thinking outside the box is that lucky move. Some people will land gigs because they slate the beginning of the audition, which is their name and the role they're doing. It's like, kyle

A there, do eat this voice. You know. It's like and that will might catch the director's here and they will hit stop because they're so sick of hearing auditions of the same dialogue in and out, and it's like, oh, here's someone who did something a little bit different, and

maybe they improvised a line here and there. They could have got the context completely wrong, but hey, they're not gonna panalyze me because they didn't tell me, you know, they're just gonna hear a delivery and they're either gonna like it or they're gonna say next. Never take it personal, have a thick skin and um worts yourself from that audition. Do the best you can and wait for the next one to come along. Lather Rinse repeats, Oh man, that bonus if you land the gig. Oh, I know right

that that's for you. V O people that you got. You had your section. Now we're gonna talk about anime again. I want to know what was going through your mind, because okay, so you do Dragon Ball Z, you do Kai Kai Is in the books, you're like all right, Like you were saying you're done with the job, You're like, all right, gonna do the next thing. And then they announced Dragon Ball Super. What's going through your head? That

blew my mind? Because we had the two movies right, the Battle of Gods in Resurrection F and those did gangbusters at box office in Japan and here they were released here and then in theaters here in the States. Oh yeah, and they had premiere with the Japanese voice actors and the English and that it was just unreal. They they sold out screenings. They had to add more screenings. It's not like they made film prints like they normally do.

There was just a digital thing. But it was nationwide, it was worldwide for for a lot of countries, and it did so well. So I thought, Okay, this is the future. The movies are probably easier to make and

they make more money. They're more probably. Yeah, so you thought they were just going to stick with movies absolutely, because it's set in you know, this, this this continuity that kind of red Coons t t out of existence, which a lot of people are fine with, especially Gohan's getting you know, nerved at the end of the Boos saga. But and then Super comes along. It's like, oh my god, Wow. And then Super the movie, which is coming out what in December and Japan January in English And No, I

have no idea of gohans in it or not. I don't. Yeah, I feel like it would honestly be a disservice. But I feel like if we're talking about your character of Gohan, I mean there's a lot of debate about him because I feel like he, for people that don't know, ended up being arguably the strongest character in Dragon ball Z. By the end of the cell saga, which is a

villain that they defeated. Um but so Goku has always been historically the strongest, and then Gohan, his son ended up kind of taking that mantle and everyone thought, oh, you're the new Goku. And then he ended up not he ended up, you know, which is fine, Like he

just he ended up being more into academics. He got married, he kind of settled down, and I don't know, I'm sure people come up to you all the time and it's like I don't control that, you know, but like I'm I'm I'm just I'm interested to hear like your take on his development or how you feel about getting

about playing this, you know, softer Gohan. I guess I think it's important to show depth in character and evolution and growth, you know, don't just keep him stifled and just label or stereotype him as he's only this, he can't grow. It's like, no, that's not fair. Let's show that he can be a responsible, good husband, good loving, nurturing father, unlike his own who was not that. Again, if he did, you hear that because more of a dad. I mean, let's be honest, can't parent if the world

is destroyed? I respect that. I do respect that he's saving the world. He can't change diapers. I get that. I RESPECTA seems to do it pretty well. Well good, Well, that's why Vegina is always in second place. And I don't know, sometimes I feel like you're pulling in first. He's coming through. He's given Goku his power. We could but Vegeta and Boma. How did that even happen? He seems so unpassion Kyle, that is passion. Okay, that is too fine. I can't swear that it's too very fine.

People who were sexually frustrated? Was that a one night stand that just erupted into something? I don't know? You know? He yeah, we're what are we? Pg? I can't say all the things I want to say, but I do want to say that that is the result of two people in the summer heat. Uh, it's always like summer. Whenever they're training. It's like she's in like a bikini or whatever, like chilling at her compound, and he's like sweaty as hell. I'm sorry fan fiction. Um, you know

he's out there training. You know he's wearing lug boots, you know the ones that master flex war And then to the hyperbolic time chamber and they all brow out together. So so I mean super has been taking place the last couple of years, so you've gotten to reprise Gohan the last couple of years. And a time when it kind of just was like he was done, you know, I thought, Yeah, I thought, if anything, he'll be minimally involved. He's still not like majorly involved, but he had a

bigger part that I thought he would. Yeah, well how does that? Like? How is that? And now rejoining the concircuit with all of a sudden's all of these dragon Ball fans coming back. I'll tell you it's killer because this past year we had a lot of us were invited to the Dallas area for the first Kameha con comicon. I don't know how you pronounce that, call me home, but this is the first all Dragonball themed convention, and we had Japanese actors, we had Canadian actors and English

actors and creators and directors and producers. All they're signing autographs all weekend and panels and discussions and merch and artist ali just just the quality which is like blow you away, and it's like, man, the first year event and almost everyone was not from Dallas. They came from other countries, other states, and they said, as soon as those those tickets went on sale, like almost a year ago, I ordered them. That's like I have to be there for this. This is historical and all of us who

work on the show, we're just blown away. And so yeah that that that's coming back. And then a lot of us are on the con circuit anyway, so we bring that to the comic cons and the anime cons and yeah, it's just a juggernaut. It's not going anywhere. It seems like it's never slow. It's only I remember for the final episode of Dragon Ball Super, I think they showed because they showed it outside in Mexico and they were like a hundred and eighty thousand people that

showed up to watch the final episode. That's just in that particular area. Yeah, like think of everyone worldwide that was watching the final episode. Yeah, like this this this kame con is inviting the Mexican voice of Goku. Yes, that's yes. I will say that is so big just alone when we were doing krill in it. How many of our friends are Latin X friends that grew up watching the Spanish dubs to see that they're getting there just do as well. It's super exciting for me. Yeah, totally, totally,

and it's like it's it's equal representation. You're getting, Oh, hey, I watched the ocean depth, Well, then you might want to go talk to those gentlemen over there, and then over here is the Texas people, and oh you want to meet Japanese vegeta. We're getting that really long, long and we'll see what we can do. I am actually a co host of comicn this this year. Yeah, I'm co hosting it. Yeah, dude, I'm pretty sure that you are. But I don't control I don't control all of that. Um. Yeah,

I was announced last year. I believe it was Geeked Geeked on one on one was a host, and now I am co hosting it with him. So um, everybody, brace yourselves. Yeah, continue this combo there. I guess. Well. No, I wanted to say, just because we were talking about dubs really quickly, is that I don't want to get

into the subs for stubs debate. What I do want to say is my quick onet like two sentence rant, is that I think it's so beautiful that dragon moll z can be dubbed in so many different languages, like it's in Portuguese, it's in Spanish, Yes, it's in English and Chinese and Japanese and so German. Yeah. I never quite understood that argument of like, no, it has to be like this one. The owners don't want it to be.

They want it to be dubbed in so many different languages so they can capitalize on all these markets and share their creation with so many markets. But also that means that a little kid in Brazil gets too, gets to watch it in their native tongue and and and and grow up with it that way. I think that's so special, and I think that's really cool. It's a

very positive thing. I know, as if I were a creator creating a franchise of that magnitude, I would want it to reach as why an audience as possible around the globe. And I'm not going to sit here and say, well, this is what we intended because this is the native language that it's in, So anything else's in our films get our films get dubbed into other American films and television get dubbed into other My brother, one of his

favorite things is a lot of Netflix. The animated shows on Netflix, you have the option of watching it in Spanish, and that's how he's trying to teach my knee Spanish. So yeah, and I think that's really cool. Um. Yeah, and the live action dub thing is is is a

different beast. It's like because of the subtleties of the way the mouth moves in different languages, it's hard to sync up one language with another, like like it one ends with a consonant, but his mouth is obviously doing a vowel, like oh, it's like how do you make it fit and stay faithful? So it's like it's a little give and take. It's easier with anime because the mouth is not as it's not like three D animation. Yeah, yeah,

so yeah, it's it's fun times. Yeah, I know it's an exciting time for anime and it's an exciting time for DVZ fans truly. But the whole dragon Ball tour going across America now too. I have nothing to do with that, but maybe some of the actors might. I don't know. But yeah, with Fighters and the Legends game on mobile and it's coming on switch. Yeah, it's taken over. Actually, we talked about this with our Comic Con episode, but the Hall H panel for dragon Ball Super for the

new movie was like sold out. It was packed. Well that's crazy because normally those are the ones like where they show the Marvel trailers or the d C trailers, And the fact that our anime that you know, not everyone takes us seriously was completely packed for Comic Con and had taken over. I remember, Um, I always saw

you post a picture. Were you you were there this year? Right? Okay, well I saw that you had I think shared a picture because Gohan was on one of the elevators at the Marriott, and like, this is so cool, like to see this interactive space with with UH, with these characters just kind of taking over San Diego to me that it's blown up so much. And and I know you've been going to UH to comic Con for a while

and I started going when I was like eleven. I think, actually you probably signed something of mine as Gohan, I was like a pimple e team major getting you to sign something. Um, but I did. I had a huge crush on go On. Well that's fantastic, yeah, okay, oh I think it is time do you take this plane down for a landing? Is there anything you want to plug Kyle there and let people know where to catch you where you're gonna be sure, Captain, we'd no. Yeah. So I'm at Kyle Abert on Twitter, at Kyle aber

on Instagram. I'm so happy that Instagram as of today has just opened up applications to be verified. So I'm already verified on Twitter, but Instagram eludes me. But now it's they made it public, so it's wait to get that Facebook. Do you get the Facebook right? Social media moment? Yeah, because strangely there are people out there wanting to imitate us on social media. It's like, I'm sure advantage is there to do that? What is me? I'm Kyle Herbert.

You know that's not right. Yeah, you're not pronouncing it right. H G B E R T does Louisiana French. So look me up on Twitter. That's where I am most active. On Facebook, dot com slash Kylie beer v O and uh yeah, tune into Tunami. You know you're gonna hear me a lot show almost every show. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Does anyone in your family, like, I mean, was it a thing where you would like send your family, like, hey, I'm gonna be on this and now it's just like no,

please stop everything. The first time I taped it when it came on you remember VCRs. Yeah, I taped the first thing to run on TV. The bar Dock was the first thing that came out for release that I could buy in the store. But Cartoon Network aired some of the bit part stuff and then I showed my dad and he tuned out after about ten seconds. That's nice, son, We are proud of you. Though it's like, all right, thanks.

I know it's not your cup of tea, but I'm I'm living my dream and it's like, well, we're happy for you, sons. So my parents rock. They're super supportive, cool love it. I am at MS Danny Fernandez, M S D A and I F E R N A and D easy and uh yeah, Like I was saying, if you're a dragon Ball, dragon Ball Z, dragon Ball super fan, I will be hosting Comicon, which it's in April. It's in April, so you've got time to get tickets, but I would get them now. I think Texas. Yeah,

I think it ended up being sold out last year. Yeah, it was packed at least the V I p stuff was it was packed, it was backed to hell. I was excited. You'd think the Beatles were playing. I mean I pulled up there from the from the hotel and it's like, oh my god, screaming going on here, screaming fans. Yes, yeah, I mean people grew up with you guys, and now are introducing their kids, and they're growing up with it.

It's actually kind of insane that you and a lot of the other Texas that originated in Texas voice actors have been able to voice these characters for like two decades. Yeah. Yeah, and now we're speaking to like current gen people like you know, I've worked on Attack on Ty in some of the newer shows, and maybe kids today maybe that's

their first exposure. But then they start following voice actors and finding out that they were oh, let me check out these older shows, or they'll watch abridged, which is like free advertising. You know. It's I was like, hey, these are funny jokes. Let's see what the original show actually says in these scenes. It's like, all right, we're gaining fans. That's great. Yeah, well, and you know me, um, if you wide away on Twitter and Instagram, if d

s on Twitch. Thanks for coming through, y'all on the twenty nine. That weekend, I'll be in DC doing Improblem with White Women's make sure you come through and if you're in the l A area. September another, another edition of Your Token Friend will be Alive and Direct on the UCB Sunset Stage. More info of that could be found on those social media accounts that I just mentioned. Now you might be asking yourself, will will if you and Danny be able to cover the parts of TVZ

that I like? Will they go do a deep diving dragon Ball? Will they do the deep dive on Z? How much? What about the video games like um Boudakai? What about the video games like bud find out next time on a future episode of Nerdive Sin. Yeah, don't worry, we got you. We got you. This is the one series I know the most about that I have tattooed on my body, So we will definitely be covering this.

Somebody actually asked us a good question that I want to address, and they're like, why don't you when you tackle a topic, why don't you do two or three more episodes on that topic? You know, like we did Twilight Zone. I'm like, oh, we'll deep dive into it later, and they're like, why didn't you do two or three

more episodes on twilight Zone. Well, the thing is is that not everyone likes it, and so we want to give like a fun introduction to these Some of them require additional episodes, some of them don't, but like, we don't want to do a month's worth of episodes because this comes out once a week. We don't want to do like two or three weeks on twilight Zone. If like, you know, a core part of our fan base is like, yeah,

we're good, We're good. Um, we could. And the thing is that if he and I could absolutely just do the things that we personally are obsessed with, but we really want to learn about other fandoms that you know, we might not be as well versed in, and and then also sprinkling ones that we are very well versed in. And so it's kind of just our style. Um, we're entertainers first, I feel like, well we're nerds first, entertainers, and then um, all of the all of the deep

dive stuff. The short version of that is it's more interesting if we bounce it around, and it's not the same thing over and over, especially if someone could be like, I'm gonna sit this one out and sit the next week out, in the next week out. So we like to we like to change it up. But don't worry, Dragon Ball fans, we are going to come back. We're going to dive into the legacy of Goku. This was just an intro. Yes, yes, stay nerdy, nerdy, stay nerdy, Stay nerdy.