BONUS EP: Clip Show #1

enjoy them. I think back on the good times before for the holidays, when we were Akupato and Danny was living life lavish on the Bahamas somewhere. I was trying to figure out where you were going with the Yeah, yeah, but yeah, enjoy the US clips. They're gonna be fun. Let's talk about the history Deep Deep. We still don't have our sound, I know, I look, I just like repeating deep Dive. We'll just clip that for next time.

The earliest it looks like known table top game was a series of forty nine small carved painted stones that were actually found at the five thousand year old I think this is by Burial Mound in southeast Turkey. Um and those are the earliest gaming pieces ever found. Yeah, and similar pieces have been found in Syria and Iraq and seem to point to a board games originating in the Fertile Crescent and other early origin Dice games were created by painting a single side of a flat stick.

These sticks would be tossed in unison in the amount of painted side showing would be your role Mesopotamian ice were made from a variation of materials including carved knuckle bones, would painted stones, and turtleshell. You know what this kind of adjacent to this reminds me of cornhole? Do you know the history? Of course this is according at least to my ex whom religiously so he's from He's from Ohio, which that when dating him, I was exposed to cornhole.

I didn't know. I grew up in southern California. I don't know if it was a big thing or not. Um, but I wasn't aware of it. And then they would, like literally the kids in his town would make their own corn holes and paint them. That sounds so bad. So if you don't know what cornhole is, it's like, um, it's like a flat surface, um ramp that has a hole in it that you then toss bean bags into. And what my ex told me was that the history of it is that they used to throw corn cobs

into our houses. I don't know, we might need our researcher to look into that, but that's the history of I like that history, though, I think I think I'm down with the corn cob and to an out. Yeah, yeah, no. I learned cornhole from the white improv community that I'm a part of out here that showed up at parties and because yeah, growing I don't know about you, but growing up in something so cow, our big thing was like, uh no, I was gonna beer pong. Yeah, yeah, that's

the big like party game I'm aware of. But cornhole seems way more chill, like a backyard barbecue, through a little sack into a hole, through a corn cob into a toilet bowl. Okay, but let's jump down this timeline. So thanks for our researchers, we have a brief time line of game history, and it starts in b C E with SENA. It's s an an et, which is either senate or sane. I'm fancy, so I'm gonna call it sane. It's discovered in the Pre Dynastic and First

Dynasty burials of Egypt. Senate is believed to be the world's oldest board game, meaning game of passing. Seney consisted of a grid of thirty squares arranged in three rows of tin and two sets of ponds, though the exact rules are the source of much debate. A copy of the game was found buried with Tuton Common which is funny because I feel like that's tabletop to a t which is arguing over what the rules actually are. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of things buried with him, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

all of his animals and I think like friends. Also that thing you always keep that Yeah, okay, So moving on the fourteen hundred b C. We see dice. Actually so, Sophocles claimed that Palamedes invented dice in about four b C, and sure enough they found cubicle stones and clay dice during that period. But in truth, it's possible that dice were actually developed independently by many ancient cultures around the world. I believe that. Did you know that alcohol was also

developed independently around major cultures? I took a history of this was in my deep weep phase. When I was in community college, but I took it was Japanese, but I also took like the history of Japan, and they were talking about how Korean in Japan and almost every country you found alcohol on their own. So there had to be that one weird guy and every culture who

was like, let's taste this rotten juice. It might also be I mean, I'm sure someone will correct us, but I imagine also it's just like their limited resources, where like if something did go wrong or it was like fermented, it was like, we don't have the resources to just throw this away. You know that sounds like a very educated guest. And then and then eventually what ended up happening was that the water supply was so bad that they just ended up having to drink alcohol, which is

something we should cover. We should cover nerds getting drunk. Well, well, we should definitely cover um the science behind not even that. But remember when everybody was making their own beer like like that still I mean still yeah, people real nerds about that, Like it was like, oh man, I made my own beer micro brewing. Well, let's dip over to for a game that sounds kind of familiar. Snakes and Ladders, I love it. I wish they had kept that name.

Snakes and Ladders originated in India as a game based on morality, where the progression up the board was to teach children about good and evil, with climbing up ladders representing good and sliding down snakes representing evil. During the British rule of India, the game made its way back to the Assures and it was taken the US as Shoots and Ladders in ninety three by Milton Bradley. Should

have been snakes. That's gentrification one on one right there, like all right, I'm gonna take the snakes out, We're gonna add some shoots. We're gonna move on to the first board game, Millionaire. This is one of the most

fascinating stories that we encountered coming across this topic. In nineteen thirty five, we got Monopoly and a lot of people wrongly credit Charles Darrow as being the soul designer, And what actually happened is Charles and his wife Esther actually went in nineteen thirty two to the home of his friend, who was a Philadelphia businessman named Charles Todd

and his wife Olive. So he went over to their place and they played a real estate board game that they had recently learned, and they became fascinated by it, and Charles Todd his friend made the Daros a set of their own, and then the other Charles, so many Charles in this. Okay, so Charles Darrow, listen this because this is where the sneak that sounds like a character from Downton Abbey. By the way, Charles d Charles, Charles Daru, and I've made some board games for you. A Todd,

I gotta say, on paper sounds hello, whack uh. You know, it was like, hey, on paper sounds really whack. Like to be like, hey, you guys wanna play a real estate board game? I'm like, na, son, let's bring out the magic the gathering. Why are you bringing this trade? Win was prohibition? Let me see if they were bored? Very good question. Right. We want to go and tell you the best selling Nintendo games of all time, which

nice shock people. Yeah, it shocked me for sure. So I'm gonna give you all, you know, a few seconds to yeah, yeah, to brace yourself to think what you think it is. Yeah, we'll do the top ten and we'll start from ten, and we'll work our way up,

so let's get it started. Number ten, which I'm real proud about because I've been talking about this game starting now is Duck Hut, which is twenty eight million, which I don't know if that really counts since it came with the system, but you know, i'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it the crown. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. So number nine is we Play super Popular y point oh two million, just just barely edging out Ducats. And number eight is Tetris for the Game Boys, speaking of which

yet million. Okay, so number seven new Super Mario Bros. On the Wei. Yeah, I'm fascinated by how many of these are we related. So that's thirty point eleven million. Yeah, and then the New Super Mario Bros. Which was the same game but on the DS. Uh or I wonder if it was the other way around. I think it was. It came out on the d S and then they made it for the Wei. We'll look into that, but

that was thirty point eighty million. Pokemon Red Green Blue for Game Boy, thirty one point thirty eight million, We Spicy Diety, and then uh We Sports Resort thirty three point zero six the We Sport really is like, how is this now? Picture in your head every Nintendo game that you know, and We Sports Resort beat it, well, at least most of them. It's at number four. Number three. Of course we have Mario Kart. This was Mario Kart we specifically, so thirty seven point two million. It makes sense.

I guess with the popularity of the Wei and game like kind of where we're at now that the majority of these are for WE. But I still find that really fascinating. And number two is Super Mario Bros. For the NES and g B A forty two point fifty one million. Okay, brace yourself. Number one. Who what would you have thought number one would be the number one selling I would have thought Pokemon. But Pokemon is pretty high up there there in the top five at least. Yeah,

that's true. I guess for some reason, I thought it would be Super Mario Bros. Um well, it was. It was until this game came out. It was number one until this game came out. This game being We Sports God, yep, the thing that you pull out after every Thanksgiving when your family and that's my family, when like uncle's passed out asleep and who's going to break out the WE Sports.

I know it's surprising, but not surprising because I feel like WE Sports is the one game that across the board, whether you're a gamer or not, everyone is aware of. Everyone has seen the video someone playing tennis or someone doing the golf. I feel like those videos going viral like many of them did, has just made people flocked to we'se. I can't believe that Super Smash Brothers didn't even like get Super Smash Brothers number ye yeah, yeah, god,

oh yeah. I mean I just played that religiously in Super Mario sixty four is all the way down at number forty. That was my favorite game growing up. It's just really knocked this back down to PEG. But that is something that's very interesting. I want to talk about the WEE a bit and the Wei. I feel like inside like gamer culture shook the gaming set guys, because you had the WE kind of dropped around the time the PS three and the Xbox three sixty came, so

everyone was waiting for Nintendo's next gen console. So someone thought that they were going to compete with something that is that has like ten a D p h D graphics, very powerful new controller, and they came out with this WE console that was used a remote emotion. I mean, but it was very it was extremely interactive. What it was was approachable for a lot of people. I feel like when people see controllers, they're like what, but everyone uses a remote, So I think that made it approachable

for just the general kind of you know. Yeah, it's one of those things where I think, like, I can't remember in the commercials if they did this, but it's it's people of all ages essentially, Like you could give your grandma a WE remote and she can just use her body like she can swing, you know, the golf club or bowl. I was really great at bowling. And so I agree, like you said, if it's it's you don't have to worry necessarily too much about a lot

of the buttons. Uh, it's you know, largely based on your body movement for a lot of things. So I did think, and it's and it's interactive, it's like a family you know, a lot of the WE games are encouraging for others to play kind of as a group. So and and I think you had it right in what she said is a family console. It was a big deal where they finally came around and had an

imerated game. The the WE typically tried to be just fun for all, and they tried to steer more towards family friendly game, which a lot of people thought that was a bad move, but an the end, I think it was a good move because you have these two giant uh consoles compete with each other, the Xbox and PlayStation, and they were coming out neck to neck with exclusives, shooter games, action got of war, violent games, and then you have this like fun console that you can bring

out in the whole family wants to play. And I think that's where they capitalize. And you know, the WU wasn't very successful because I feel like it it just kind of one I don't think personally it was that much of an advancement. It was literally just a better version of the Wei, which you can say what you will about them doing that, but that's basically what the Xbox one X in the PlayStation four pro is at

this point. But then they made the Switch, which was another innovative game on SOL where it was it can be both portable and a console game you can play at home. So it seems like that's always been Nintendo's kind of drive is to find innovative ways to play versus trying to just be the best at what the current status quo is. Yeah, and I know that we skipped forward to WE, but I just wanted to mention the gaming systems that came before that. So we talked

about the NES. So the difference with that was that it was an eight bit system. Yeah, um, and so that was then they upgraded to sixteen bit and that was in one with the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. I think I remember having that one as well. And then my favorite and if you're a nineties kid, I mean this was our home base. Nintendo sixty four greatly improved three D graphics and new controller at the modern joystick. We have to do an entire episode on and sixty four.

I mean we'll probably do an entire episode on most of these. But that came out, and then we of GameCube. I remember GameCube in two thousand and one, so that also had enhanced graphics, new controller. Um. The games came on a mini disc and it was Nintendo's first home console to use solely disc format for their games. And it was also the first and only Nintendo system to require additional memory cards in order to save Do you

remember that? Oh man? Uh? And then they had the Panasonic Cue, which was kind of like a hybrid version of Nintendo GameCube that was in two thousand and one, but that could also that kind of change things because it could also play DVDs, audio CDs, MP three's and CDs. So they were trying to catch up. I feel like they were trying to also do like what PlayStation was doing.

And then we have the Wei in two thousand and six, so the newer black, red, and blue models were dubbed the Wee Family editions, so they were really capitalizing on the family market. We had the WE Mini, which was a smaller version of the WE console that was we had we you Yeah, we had so many Wee's which was like a game pad with a touch screen built into it, and that was also in We had the NES Classic edition totally did you get that iffy? Oh? No, I didn't do you play anybody's No. I wasn't going

to fight the crowd crowds, oh man. So if y'all don't know, I mean just totally capitalizing on our nostalgia at this time. The NES Classic was a mini console that was basically bringing back all your childhood of playing a NES. It included thirty classic n S games, but was also compatible with the we uh controller a week classic controller. So and then we have the Nintendo Switch, which do you have one of those? Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, yeah,

the Nintendo Switch, um, and that was in seventeen. It was kind of like a hybrid of a lot of the of the home and the portable gaming of their consoles and uh. And then we also have the Supernintendo Entertainment System Classic Edition or SNS Mini, and that was yeah. So so they've they've dropped quite a few bangers, and the Switch is doing well. It had a great year. Breath of the Wild swept the game of the years, all of them, every almost every every publication game of

the Year had Breath of the Wild. And so there, I'm excited to see where they go with the Switch. Yeah. That wasn't even getting into all the different iterations of game Boy that they had, but yeah, well we'll probably do We will do an entire episode on game Boy. Oh yeah, we definitely just handhelds, just into no handhelds, but we'll talk a little bit more. But before that, I think you guys need a break or at least we do. So we'll talk to you when we come

back with our guests after this. All right, and welcome back to Artificent. We are talking about violence and video games, going down the history of it, talking about all the studies to strike down whatsoever. Just so much info just disproving this, but we have it here all in one place for you. But Danny wanted to h wanted to say something up top. Yeah, that a p a uh study that we were talking about. The American Psychological Association.

So they had actually looked at four meta analysis that reviewed more than a hundred and fifty research reports published before two thousand and nine, and then of the ones published between two thousand nine, and they looked at a hundred and seventy articles to come up with their research. And again it said, while there's some variation among the individual studies, a strong and consistent general pattern has emerged from many years of re search that provides confidence in

our general conclusions. As with most areas of science, and the picture presented by this research is more complex than it usually include in news coverage and other information prepared for the general public. So that's another sector of it is what the media decides to latch on. What is shown is like they played video games, or they played violent video games, which they're not looking at the full picture. Yeah,

well because that's such as simple. Yeah, of course they played video games, because everyone their age plays video games. That isn't you know, shocking And it's funny because you would think, after you know, that huge study and even Scalia kind of like shutting it down, it would end. But most recently Trump went ahead and set that video games, the video games, the movies, the interactive stuff is so violent.

He went ahead and set that, and it kind of re ignited this dead argument because at this point it is officially dead. I feel like it's reached as it's not I mean, it's alive, but it's you're beating a dead horse. That is is not true. It is like it's having that Berenstein Bears argument. We've already proved, We already proved to you that the name was what it was.

I need to tell you something. Did you see on the White House YouTube channel, which if you didn't know, the White House has a YouTube channel, they have something. They have a video up that's titled violence in Video Games. It has um over a million views. Uh, if you, I will show it to you. It is literally there's

no introduction to it. It is just the most not the most, but it is just violent excerpts taken from video games of people like hitting each other with hatches or or shooting someone in there some pretty prolific scenes in video games. Because these are some games I've played and it and they're really it is funny. They got Dead by Day, which is a horror game where you play a slasher. It really is like but there's no introduction.

There's literally nothing that that introduces this this video. It just is on their YouTube page with clips of violent you know, violent particular points in videos. They're taking old games. They took the extremely controversial No Russian and it was the scene where you're you literally go and do a mass shooting like that is the scene in the context of the story, it makes sense and actually, as the player,

you do have the option to not shoot anyone. You actually get an achievement if you do that whole episode and shoot no one. Here's that whole Yeah, it's fascinating. One of the comments that has over two thousand likes says, I mean some of those clips you showed are unplayable cut scenes, So shouldn't you therefore be making the same argument against movies and television. Yeah, I think that's the same thing. And I do want to point out that the first half of that video, no one was using guns.

It was all just access growing us like it was no real like I think two people got shot and the rest were with other weapons other than guns. So you're just taking in somebody else. Somebody else said I play a lot of fantasy games and for that reason and planning to tame and write a dragon. You know, I'm not trying to necessarily make fun of people who are concerned about violence and video games, but I do

want to say it is dangerous. It is dangerous that when we have went through the proper means and the courts, your own justice, the one who is on the side of the Republicans has doesn't agree with you, and you go and you post that like that is that is dangerous? It is on the White House on the White House. Yeah, channel I agree, and with no explanation, I feel like that's another like it's irresponsible is exactly what it is.

It's irresponsible, and it's denying all the world that everyone has done and all the facts that are out there that proves this is just not true. I do want to play this clip from the Daily Site guys because I feel like, you know, they have a fun way Daily Zeite guys, another show on the How Stuff Works Network. We're gonna have to bleep a lot of it because they are some potty mouse. You know. When I'm on there, I never cuss. I don't cuss in my whole life.

But yeah, this is kind of I feel like instead of kind of repeating what has happened and what is said during the recent shootings, would be good to just kind of give you you all just a clip and you know, if you don't already listen to the Daily Site guys, hopefully this will make you want to go peep those guys out. You know, me and Danny have both been on it talking point. It seemed like on all the Sunday shows because the n r A had to get all their people out to start spending this

recent shooting to be anything but the guns. Uh seem to be mostly video games and movies now was like the I guess Scapegoat Jour and riddling. Yes, so I guess the first step new one. Yeah, Ali North, who is the new n r A president and O G Gunn smuggler of America. He went on Fox and yeah blamed riddling in a bunch of check out this explanation. We're trying, like the Dickens, to treat the symptom without treating the disease. And the disease in this case isn't

the Second Amendment. The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a culture of violence. Uh, they've been drugged in many cases. Nearly all of these perpetrators are male and their young teenagers in most cases, and they've come through a culture where violence is commonplace. All we need to do is turn on the TV, go to a movie. If you look at what has happened to the young people, many of these young boys have been on riddle in stance they were in kindergarten. H that's such a hard

left on. Like it's like he even started like making a good point of like all these young shooters are male, all these young like that that could be a discussed about what toxic masculinity is and things like that, right, but then it turns into a ridin. Yeah, So like they at this point and I think hearing that also lets you know that it really isn't video games. It really isn't. What it really comes down to is anything but smarter gun control laws, Like that's what. And it's

so funny because no one. I feel like a few people, a few fringe people might have said ban all guns, but no one is saying ban all guns. What we're saying is make it harder to get these killing machines. I want to start just with the war because it's very interesting. It's it's almost like you know when you read some people's biographies and you're like, oh, this is this is gonna be a good movie one day. I feel like Rod Serling has one of those. But that's

kind of fascinating. I guess he hasn't. No one has played him yet, like officially in a huge film. I agree. He is so instrumental. I feel like in um, not only science fiction, but just yeah, I know that he gets compared Black Mirror gets compared a lot to Twilight Zone, and that's accurate. And then, and of course we're gonna also visit the fact that Jordan Peel is now making, which I think he's perfect for. It is going to

be on the CBS platform. Yeah, because like get Out would have been the perfect like episode of Twilight Zone in the same like cutting just um, what's the word I'm looking for criticism? What I was gonna say is, actually, Jurassic Park fits a lot people forget, but that fits a lot of like, yeah, the original Drastic Park well, and I would say drastic the last one Draassic World Falling Kingdom um where they start to kind of or

or they hint at using dinosaurs as weapons. That to me is also kind of like what would we do with this technology? Um where it could also be like a Black Mirror episode. But yeah, Rodster. As far as me, like I grew up with the Twilight Zone marathons, my parents would party and essentially leave us alone. On New Year's Eve, we had watch it on Sci Fi my brothers and I. I now, if he has been to my place, Melow, you are welcome to come to my place.

I have a Twilight Zone wall um which I will tweet with different artwork and original artwork that's signed by artists. I have rod sterling up there. I have m many of the episodes, including one of the most famous ones, which is I have the Beholder, but also I had an artist a lot of the other ones that don't have as much artwork, so I commissioned an artist to do my favorite. Well it changes as the years go on, but my favorite is The Howling Man is one of

my absolute favorite episodes. Uh. And also Satan's kind of hot. He's kind of hot in it. Uh he is, he looks good. Um. So yeah, so let's talk about the history of Rod Sterling. Yeah, I was, and I just wanted to start in high school. He funny enough, He's always been a right or not funny, I mean just I guess as expected always. He was writing for the school news paper and he was kind of like amped up about World War two and he was kind of

encouraging other students to enlist. And he actually wanted to enlist before he graduated. But then it was actually his Civics teacher, Gus Youngstrom, who said war is a temporary thing. It ends an education doesn't without your degree, where will you be after the war? So he actually finished school, graduated, and as soon as school ended, enlisted. Now there's a fun detail in his enlistment that kind of really I

think sets up who Rod Serling is. So originally he was sent to um California, which man he was going to fight the Japanese instead of you know, the the Germans, and he was actually angry about it because he wanted to fight Hitler and so so he was like, forget the Japanese, I need to fight this guy, this horrible, bigoted, racist guy, like that's who he wanted. And I feel

like that kind of set the tone for his life. Eventually, Lee he actually grown bitter about the war because it seemed like such a young thing to do, to be like, oh, I'm gonna go join the army, I'm gonna fight the bad guys. But he found out that, you know, he was seeing death every day. And then there were a

lot of freak accidents. There was this huge freak accident, like there was there was a Jewish private name Melvin Levy, and Levy was delivering a comic monologue for the platoon as it as like he was standing under a palm tree and a food crate was dropped from a plane above and it decapitated him. And so Startling actually let the funeral services for Levy and placed the Star of David over his grave. So like, not only are you seeing the death of the war, but you're also seeing

freak accidents like that. I can imagine that's not only kind of making you bitter towards the war, but that I feel like there's no way to not have this kind of morbid, kind of creative thought when you see things like that, you know, like, yeah, I would say also during the time, UM, I think like you were saying too, that he was exposed to this idea of good verse evil and then evil not necessarily being evil or are we the evil actually? Um? Was something that

I think that he tackled a lot pretty often. UM. Human nature as well as during this time. Just the amount of racism that he saw was definitely influential in his writing. And something that's really fascinating is we can we can link this in our footnotes. But I watched a YouTube video of him a couple of years ago. Uh that sounded weird. It wasn't a YouTube video of him. It was him doing an interview that was helping on

YouTube Uncle Rod doing an unboxing bid. Uh. Here can you imagine can you imagine him like doing having a selfie stick? I would love to see him nowadays, like his commentary on us um would be so fast. His daughter is still alive. But what I was gonna say is I watched the video on YouTube of him where he was talking about censorship and how CBS had centered the writers and what they were trying to get away

with and a lot of the times. Of course, his commentary was on on people of coloring, the treatment of people of color in marginalized groups in general, where they would end up having to make them like an alien or you know, a monster or something for you to like feel for them because they weren't they weren't able to make them people of color. And uh, he actually says that you eventually start to censor yourself where you're

not even writing those stories. So if you already know it's it's kind of fascinating, like the brain will just start to center and and not even create those stories anymore. It was it's a really fascinating interview, and we'll link it.

But yeah. He ended up volunteering at w NYC in New York as an actor and writer in the summer of nineteen forty six, and then the next year he worked at a station as a pain intern in Antioch work study program and then took a couple of odd jobs and other radio stations in New York and Ohio. He said, I learned time writing for a medium that is measured in seconds. He also worked at the Antioch Broadcasting Systems Radio Workshop and was managing the station within

a couple of years. Dan let He's Moving Up movie. He was a hard worker. Uh. He wrote and directed the programs and acted in them as well. Um, this is kind of fascinating. So I actually read the twilight Zone Companion highly recommended. There's a couple of different Twilight Zone books out there. Have you read that one? Mellow? Oh, I think you would like it. There's so much behind the scenes for each they go through each episode. So I actually got it inaudible, and I would listen to

it when I would clean and drive and stuff. But it's behind the scenes of like how did this get made? How this almost didn't get made? Other freak accidents that happened in the episodes. Uh. And also he didn't write all of them. Um. I know a lot of people think that he wrote all of them, but a lot of them were actually bought from They were teleplays or they might have been a short story in a magazine and he would buy the rights to it and then adapt it. Uh, sometimes he would, and and then he

had other people working on his team as well. And I can imagine like he wrote like an insane amount or believe at the age of he had written forty or forty nine episodes by that point, and he was like, Okay, I finally need another writer. Yeah. Yeah, And well he just wanted to be a writer. I don't know if you know that, but they talked about that in the book where he just wanted to be a writer for the Twilight Zone and he didn't intend to be the host.

And looking at him like, you were the perfect host. You're like handsome, but you're creepy and you're like stern and have like a parental thing to you, but you're also like, you know, ominous and uh yeah, I think and he has gorgeous lush eyebrows. Um, so yeah he But originally he actually just wanted to be a writer, and he didn't because when he was hosting, he didn't have an acting like he didn't have as much time to dedicate to writing. Uh, and I know that bothered him.

But hopping back into the past, while in college, Serling won his first accolade as a writer. The radio program Dr Christian is starting an annual scriptwriting contest. Eight years earlier, thousands of scripts were sent in annually, but very few can actually be produced. So certainly want a trip to New York City and five hundred dollars for his radio

script to live a dream. He and his new wife attended the awards broadcast on May eighteenth of ninette, where he and the other winners were interviewed by the star of Dr Christian, Geene Herschel. One of the other winners that day was Earl Hamner Jr. Who also earned prizes in the previous years, and later Hamner wrote scripts for Sterling's The Twilight Zone. Also, I just wanted to drop this fun fact. Five hundred dollars in ninety nine has the same buying power as five thousand, one hundred and

fourteen dollars has today. It's like a nice little something came up. I mean, you get that much in college, you like? Hold up, that's true, that's true. We're about to throw a dorm party. I would love to see Rod Serling partying. Oh yeah, yeah. I wonder if any of those cigarettes who's always so, if any of them were blunts. Ever, you never know, uh so, Sterling said

of his time as a staff writer for radio. From a writing point of view, radio ate up ideas that might have put food on the table for weeks at a future freelancing date. The minute you tie yourself down to a radio or TV station, you write around the clock. You rip out ideas, many of them irreplaceable, they go on and consequently can never go on again. And sold them for fifty dollars a week. Gosh, And he was saying that back then. I mean, that seems small to us,

but you can't afford to give away ideas. They're too damn hard to come by. If I had to do it over, I wouldn't staff right at all. I'd find some other way to support myself while getting a start as a writer. Holy crap, I'm like going through a midlife crisis as we're as we're discussing this right now. Yes, I know how many writers in our lives do you

think would agree with this as well? That you're kind of just giving your ideas a for to a studio for like such little pay, And especially his because he was so like transformative, like the thought that he wrote forty nine scripts by himself, and all of them anthology episodes. It's pretty much on the equivalent of, like you wrote a pilot like twice a week, so we'll we'll just jump all the way to what we're here to talk about,

which is, uh, the Twilight Zone. And it had an interesting kind of start, just kind of shows you how old Hollywood used to work. I don't think the w g A existed at this point because Sterling submitted the time element to CBS, intending it to be a pilot for his new weekly show, The Twilight Zone, but instead CBS used the science fiction script for a new show produced by Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball the Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse in ninety eight. The story concerns a man who

has vivid nightmares of an attack on Pearl Harbor. The man goes to a psychiatrist, and after the session, the twist ending, a device which Sterling became known for, reveals the patient had died at Pearl Harbor and the psychiatrist was the one actually having the vivid dreams. The episode received so much positive fan response that CBS agreed to let Sterling go ahead with his pilot for the Twilight Zone. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that my work that you yank for me did so well that you agree to let

me keep making this thing that people are excited. I'm sorry. I couldn't stopped laughing at the idea of Lucio ball in this like serious job. What's so interesting here is that that's such a sandwich and it's such a perfect like wrap up to who Sterling was and into Twilight Zone, because I mean, dreams about a World War two, Like he said, the war left him with nightmares. So this is really him, like just the beginning of him taking what he was actually dealing with, putting it on paper,

and then making it into something amazing. I also just wanted to be like, what a twist that was all of the No, not all of them, but that was a lot of his his most famous ones, I feel like had a pretty big twist. Um and some of them I still feel like you can't always tell. Some of them you can tell, but some of them you can't. And that was always my favorite things about a lot of the He was just so what a fascinating, interesting man um. But yeah, let's talk about the Twilight Zone. Um,

after these messages, Yeah, let's do it. After these messages. Hey, what's up y'all? Welcome back, and as promised, we are backed with a power Ranger. Yeah. It is my buddy, my friend, Peter Sdars. So how are you doing? Good? Dude? Good? Yeah, Peter. When he walked in, he was like, so what are we talking about? You are the worst. I love you.

We're just such different co host. I feel like where I would have had like an email and here's the parking situation, and here's like I called him for parking actually just ouside. I was like, is it okay for me to park just like one? Peter, we have a spot for you? What the lot is full today? And all the even the one I was going to pay the dumb eight dollars to part that's full. So I'm like out on vine me too. Yeah down there. Yeah, I don't know what's going on in Hollywood. I feel

very short. Look at my chair right now. What we do have to talk about something? This is Peter's first ever podcast ever. I'm just a little bit. I'm nervous, Like you like, do live on camera stuff constantly. Yeah, you know you did hyper Force and then you did like the real Power Rangers. I mean, you're yeah, you're one of the Power Rangers who got to be in multiple iterations of Power Rangers super like, Um, my goodness. I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure how it.

I guess because I think they're very different audiences, Like most people who watch Hyper Force aren't aware like my Ninja Seal stuff. So it feels like there are two different things completely. It doesn't feel like they're both like Power Ranger and all in like one little thing. Oh nice. Well, let's back it up a little bit and let's talk about when did you first start hearing about Power Rangers. Because we know all of us if I started talking about that, we're gonna be here for like an hour.

What was your first introduction when you first remember seeing Power Rangers. Um, I grew up in Indonesia, so my first introduction of Power Rangers was actually Super Sentai. Yeah, and you're like, yeah, I'm just I'm just on the other side. But yeah, I think I remember it when I was like super young, and then I kept watching it and I grew up just watching it, you know, So it's always been in my life. And then uh, to get into the whole power ranger acting industry side.

It was actually Yoshi, Yeah, your older brother, right, yeah, he's also done in Charge Blue. Um. He got into the industry from doing like stunt stuff, so he did like the suits and all that stuff and for the live action shows, and so he got to meet some of the rangers and from then on he was like, hey, guys, how do you how do you get into this industry? I want to be a power ranger, you know, because like he could do flips, so they requirement, Yeah, that's

what you need to be able to do. We're out fips. Sang me too. They're actually casting for it right now, right now, it's down the street. I hit our manager up, excuse me? Why was a sentence? No? But so he did that and then so he got the casting raised email and we legit just cold shot an email. And we weren't in the acting industry at this time. I was a student of architecture and my brother was doing mathematics.

He was just like, hey, can we audition and she was like yeah, sure, So we came in and we saw her and then we got really lucky. I think it was just things just kind of worked out really well, and we continued on all the way to screen testing both me and Yoshi. Then they canned it because they were like, actually there's a bit too they'd be testing it. So um, come back in like six seven months, like all right, cool, we came back No a megaphorce. That's the first time that I actually got a taste of

the industry. Is like, because like you guys, you guys act to you guys know, like the whole right when you see those papers, you see how much you're gonna get paid, Yeah, and the promise like fantasizing in your head. Yeah, just so people because people outside the industry don't know. So when your audition to act, usually like in a pilot or a bigger show, first you do your auditions than you do your call backs, than what you do is like a screen test slash chemistry test. What that

usually is. It varies for different studios, but mostly let's just talk pilot season since it just happened and it's easy to talk about. Um, the studio exects come in and watch you do your auditions. It's a lot, and they're like just most of them at the time will be like stone cold, like yeah, it's just like the SML auditions, they don't laugh. But before you do your before you do your screen test, you get the contract and you see how much you're going to be making

per episode. You see that money, and so that that just ups to stay even more because now you know how much you could be making and you don't even have the job yet, but you're already seeing how much. Yeah, you start to like imagine this life, you know. And since that was like an architecture, I have been living like non industry life for all my life. Seeing all that, I thought that the contract itself was like binding and I was like, oh god, my life has changed, you know.

And at the end of it, I got super close and it was done like me when one other person. And it got to the point where like I accidentally got upload on IMDb before I heard back that I didn't get it. So I was like, oh my god, Oh my god, who did that? That's the worst you could get in Big trouble for the thing is like the Power Rangers fan base and communities super passionate. So

they found out who was. Yeah, they found everything out, and so like they speculated, then eventually one by one people found out who got casted and it was down to like the last person and then they were like, I think Peter got it, So I think they put on IMDb, so I thought I got it, didn't get it. It was like first ever audition and it was like first ever like rejection, and no one warned me how

how bad it would be. Like I've been through breakups, but there is nothing like a heartbreak, you know, I don't know. I would take twenty heartbreaks from like from my partner then like a live dream. Yeah, that's hilarious. Wait, so you this is so fascinating me. You have no action background. Wow, I mean now people are gonna be

running out here like la la land this. That was my first time with MEGAFORCET and then after that I got into the industry from like commercial modeling because I didn't I still don't have a theatrical and when you're completely out of it, you have no idea how to get any of this stuff. Even Google barely helps. Yeah. So then I did that and then next season was Dino Charged. That was two years later, and then by this point I had gotten a little bit of practice

some commercials, but I've never gotten like actual training. So we did that, and we went to producers and we both got cut, me and my brother. And at this point I was already friends with the casting driver, so I like begged it. I was like, please please please give us another show. Please, I swear to God we

will do better. Yeah, when she gave us another shot, which was super kind of her, eventually went down to me against Yoshi was going out for Blue and I was going out for Red, and they couldn't have two Asians on the cast at that time. That I don't know. So yeah, you actually eventually got it. Wow. This is when I realized, like, oh, this industry isn't just fun and games. Yea. When he left, I was like majorly depressed. I took like I spent like fifteen thousand dollars eventually

in like classes. I drowned myself in classes. But that ultimately helped me actually get into this industry. Series. Yeah, you know, well, I think what you did, You know this is taking a step from nerd talking, going towards actor talker just industry talk. What you did is you took the positive route to deal with it. I feel like a lot of times when people face rejection in this industry, they want to blame the industry and not

themselves better. But what you did is you took the classes and you made yourself undeniable and then it paid off, and that was That's kind of how you have to treat rejection. Instead of like being like, these people aren't giving it to me, you have to be like, Okay, then I'm gonna get better and better until the point you can't say no. You look bad if you say

no to me. Yeah. It's like it's like the audition that we were talking about this morning, Like had I known she wasn't going to read the lines, I would

have just been better. You know what, man, You know, there's so many things I've been I feel like, if you like, because we're both in classes, and I feel like as comedy, well I can only speak for myself, but I feel like being in comedy you kind of like you coast off of that for a little bit, Like you can make them laughing auditions, you can do that, but then you start to realize you're not getting it because you don't have the acting technique that they want, Like,

and then when you're in acting classes, you're like, oh, yeah, I never thought to do literally any of that you know. And it's so funny because the same thing as a comedian,

like looking at acting classes. You know, it's hard for a comedian to take anything seriously, especially they're acting like and you're like whatever, But it all it takes is that one moment of you like do in the line, and then that teacher giving you the adjustment and then seeing how it pops and you're like yeah, You're like maybe this is uh yeah, and we'll just opens up your range. I feel like to other now I can go for drama roles, which is like I never ever

would have and I didn't even want to. Like when they my acting teacher like made me take this like drama course, I'm like, I don't want to do this. I don't want and then I was like, oh, I love it. I didn't realize I could cry on cute. Yeah, well I'm so living out here in this town. I can cry at any time. I didn't realize I could use that in my acting. Okay, so so yoh got it. And then and you didn't And so you were here

and you took all these acting classes. Well at that time too, I started taking a lot more seriously, not just acting classes, like I started um writing my own scripts, like phoning my own stuff. I started YouTube channel because of that and which now has already died down. But you got busy, Yeah, I got busy. Well after leaving Pott Rangers, it just no one else took over it and I couldn't like but um so I started doing

that to actually like progressively do stuff. And I ended up getting a manager from one of the auditions that I did from like a self tape. And so after that, the pilot season came when Ninja still was coming up, and at that time I had booked two pilots. One of them was like an ABC free form the other one was Disney, and I was like, I think I think it might be okay. I think I might be okay in this acting industry, even if I don't get

Power Rangers, you know, like I'm gonna be sweet. Then when Power just came along and I was like, I can't do this again. I don't want to break my heart another time, you know, like it was so gut wrenching the first second and third time, like this time, I don't want to go through it again. And my brother was like, you know what do you just gotta try, because like, what's the worst that can happen? You book it? Yeah,

I mean yeah, I guess you're right. So then I went into it and I was like, I'm not gonna get invested. I already got two pilots going on. I'm sweet, you know, and lo and behold. Of course, you always get invested. Always. There's no like at first audition, you know, maybe you could be like, Okay, cool, I'm done, you can let it go. When you get a call back, you're like yeah. So like incrementally, it's like first you're like maybe invested five percent. The next thing you like,

next you know, you're like two thousand percent. What just happened there? So all that happened and I got all the way to the point of screen testing again. And at this point I was there, there were like two other dudes who were like way better looking than me, way younger than me, and they were like amazing at stunts. I saw them doing it and I was like, frick, They're not gonna have two Asian dudes on here, you know. So I was just like feeling a little discouraged, but

I did it. Anyways, after all that was done, it was quiet and you know, you guys know the screen testing thing with the test option of like your time is here to here, and once like you reach like June or whatever, you have to be released from the test opic. So that means you at least know when you don't get it, as opposed to like prior to. So it got to the point of like I think it was May no, no, yeah, it was June June three,

which was the day that it cut off. And it was June twenty two at night, and I had not heard anything back. And I was on on a shoe that day. I was on a shoe with my brother and we were on film and uh, it was like ten o'clock and of text from the producer saying like, um, hey, I'd like to talk to you. And at this point I was like, twenty second, what is going on? So I went up to my brother and I was like, hey, do you check this out? Is either really good news

are really bad news? Hoping that he'd be like he ha, yeah, you should call him yeah, and so I was like yeah, and then he was like oh um and at that point his face just dropped, like completely dropped. He You could you could tell when somebody's not joking you, Like, no matter how good of an actor they are, in real life situations, you could tell when somebody ken. So

he was like, dude, um, you didn't get it. And I was like, what, don't screw with me, dude, Like this is you know how big this is to me, how important this is to me. Like if if you screw around with me right now, I will break down. We're on set. I can't afford the breakdown. And he was like, no, dude, like a Chip called me actually two hours ago and told me like, hey, Peter didn't get it. How should I tell him that he didn't get it? And I was like, oh my god, I

guess that's how. I was like, you gotta be joking. So he called me and he was like, hey, you didn't get it. Um, I don't have much time right now because I'm actually in a meeting and I know that you're on a shoot. Let me call you back. I just want to talk to you because I do really care about you as a person, and I want to let you know why you didn't get it, just so you understand that's not yeah exactly. And I was like at that point, I honestly didn't care to talk

because I was so upset. But which one was for this? Again? This was for Ninja Seal okay. Yeah, so this was two years ago, I think, and so I was like, well, if he was kind enough to go out of his way to say that, I might as well just talk to him, you know, and like at least maybe it'll make me feel a little bit better why I didn't get it. So after the shoet was done, this was two in the morning, I was driving home and I finally called him and he was like, hey, Peter, okay, um,

I really want to talk to you. If you're on the on the street, can you pull over something? And I was like alright, So I pull over and he was like okay, well, um, the reason why you didn't get it, Peter, or should I say Preston is because you're Ninja Seal Blue. And I was like what what what do you? What do you say? And I legit, I don't know if I could cuss on here, but yeah, we'll belie it. I was like, don't and he turns

out I got it. And the reason why he told Yoshi that was because he wants to surprise him no people. I love it. It's funny because I like, I know that they surprised Yoshi, but I was still I know. That's why. That's why I took it for granted, because you don't hear like executives doing that, Oh good thing. You didn't like cuss somebody off. I've given you my

heart and my soul. But man, you gotta that person was really good because because because if he would have been like, don't tell your brother, but you did get it and you were on set, you would have let it slip. There's no way you would have been at it. So he was like, I gotta wait till they get off set, and he's like, all right, this is what's going down, So tell tell the story because I really like it's very cute, and we're gonna post to send me the video so we can pa. You can actually

look it up. It's it's on Bethany's like she has like all the back ends of it too. But so after that, I had to wait two weeks before yos she could know, because after that it was two weeks until Power Morphicon, which is coming up soon. That's when

they do to reveal. So up until that time, I was like still playing DND with my brother and I was like trying to put little hints and stuff, you know, but we're playing DND and like we passed by like this, um, this martial arts gym right by because I play an Emerald Nights and there's this martial arts place called a Blue Dragon Martial Arts. And the day before Power work On we drove past it and my sword, by the way,

it's a blue Dragon, so yo. She was like, hey, Peter, look at that Blue Dragon Martial Arts, like just like that, just the way I just said it. And I was like, does this guy know It's like is he screwing with me? So then the day of Power Morphicon came and uh, I was gonna go down the thing and they were like reading the names. They wanted to read me last because they wanted to do the whole like surprise with

the Ocean. At that point, I was already annoyed because I was like, man, yeah, he's pointed out multiple things that shows me that he knows, like I know he knows, and um the moment that like my name was supposed to get called up, so it was like this person, uh, this color, this person, this color is this person. There was like a beat, a pattern, you know, And then it got to me and it was like and the Blue Ranger and yeoh, she was supposed to read my name and all I heard was and I was like, what,

what's going on? And then that's when I knew that like he didn't know. Yeah, then he called my name and he could even say my name, Like the dude just started breaking down. And even to this day, like every time I watched it, I still get feelings just because of how raw his emotions were. Yeah, I'm pulling it up for Danny right now. It's like the cutest. Yeah. Yeah, we will definitely post it. I'm gonna get it. So

how crazy was it? Like? Right after that? What was the Because their fan base is pretty ravenous in eat up everything. They're extremely passionate, and that's the one thing that I will say, like I love about the Ranger fan base. Like, but the thing is like I've already kind of always been in semi spotlight with them because the Mega Foresting when they put me up on IMDb. So a lot of the Ranger fans actually have like stayed with me since eleven, Yeah, since two thousand eleven.

Until I booked in two thousand sixteen, and then a lot of them were like, dude, you've been here since day one and your brother was the last year, so that it just it just worked out really well in my favorite So I hope that you enjoyed the visit down memory lane some of our favorite moments from Notificent, and next week we will also have a couple more of our favorite ones. Let us know what your favorite

episode and moments were from this past year. Yeah, yeah, because we love hearing from you, you know, Stay, it's such a th