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158 - The Two Popes teaches us how to listen

Jun 05, 202042 min
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Episode description

This is one of those movies that people tend to sleep on, which is unfortunate, because it is not only exceptionally well-crafted, it's also VERY entertaining. We're covering it because it's a Netflix original, and the theaters are still closed. So go stream this and then come listen to us talk about it.

1:00 - Jordan gags on his name
4:27 - Above the line
7:11 - Spoiler free review
11:05 - Spoilers ahead (although, this movie isn't terribly vulnerable to spoilers, so...maybe don't worry about it)
12:50 - How to use flashbacks
16:20 - Biblical imagery and other stylistic choice
21:30 - The planting of thematic flags
24:40 - Liberalism and conservatism, in conversation with each other
30:30 - Relevance to current events -- the value and necessity of truly listening
34:50 - A method of deep listening, and the way to make actual progress
39:20 - Next week: Star Trek (2009) and The Vast of Night

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