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In Most Difficult Things in Life, The Solution is Indirect

Jul 25, 20251 minEp. 141
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Summary

Naval discusses how many of life's challenging pursuits, including wealth, happiness, and status, are best achieved indirectly. He explains that money comes as a byproduct of creating value and applying specific knowledge, while happiness arises from self-minimization. Overtly chasing status or seduction often signals the opposite, highlighting that true success in these areas requires a nuanced, indirect strategy.

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Like in most interesting, difficult things in life, the solution is indirect. That was part of the how to get rich tweet storm, which is if you want to get rich, you don't directly just go for the money. I suppose you could like a bankster.

If you're building something of value and you're using leverage and you're taking accountability and you're applying your specific knowledge, you're going to make money as a byproduct and you're going to create great products, going to productize yourself and create money as a byproduct. The same way, if you want to be happy. You minimize yourself and you engage in high flow activities or engage in activities that take you out of your own self and you end up with happiness.

By the way, this is true in seduction as well. You don't seduce a woman by walking up and saying, I want to sleep with you. That's not how it works. Same with status. The overt pursuit of status signals low status. It's a low status behavior to chase status.

because it reveals you as being lower in the status hierarchy in the first place. It's not the fact that everything has to be pursued indirectly. Many things are best pursued directly. If I want to drive a car, I get in and drive the car. If I want to write something, then just sit down and write something. But the things that are either competitive in nature or they seem elusive to us, part of the reason for that is that those are the remaining things that are best pursued indirectly.

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