*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather and Rachelle head to Boulder, Colorado to discuss Scott Lee Kimball.. Boulder County native Scott Kimball was known as a career criminal and conman whom had an uncanny ability to convince people to give him the benefit of the doubt. In fact, he was so charming, that he was abl...
May 20, 2019•1 hr 7 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather is joined by her return guests; Megan and Jessie to discuss Jane Toppan. Toppan was an American serial killer who was born on August 17, 1854 as Honora Kelley. Her name later changed when she was adopted. She was known as “Jolly Jane” by those whom she worked with at the Cambr...
Apr 12, 2019•1 hr 1 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather is joined by a return guest and her father; Heath Pendergrass to discuss Joseph Roy Metheny. Metheny admitted to killing 10 people but evidence was found to indict him on just two murders; Cathy Ann Magaziner (45 years old) and Toni Lynn Ingrassia (28 years old). Metheny was c...
Mar 29, 2019•1 hr 14 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. After releasing the Aberdeen, Australia episode with Chris from Killer Jobs Podcast...we received an email from Sal who suggested the Katherine Knight case. So, we thought it would be fun to get together for a little bonus episode!! As we mentioned in the Aberdeen story, this case was sent to us as a ...
Mar 20, 2019•48 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather and Chris from Killer Jobs podcast & Exploiting Vicki Tims podcast discuss Katherine Knight - the woman who ate her boyfriend. She was the first Australian woman to be sentenced to life imprisonment without parole. She was convicted for the murder of her boyfriend in 2001 ...
Mar 01, 2019•1 hr 13 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. This is part 2 of Season 2; Episode 1 where we are traveling to Anchorage, AK to discuss the 2nd serial killer. In this episode, Heather is joined by Danielle from the Hoosier Homicide podcast to discuss Israel Keyes. Israel committed his murders in several states including New York, Washington, Vermo...
Feb 22, 2019•1 hr 13 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 2. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. WE ARE BACK FOR SEASON 2!We are traveling to Anchorage, AK and since we found 2 serial killers that we wanted to discuss, this will be part 1 of 2. In this episode, Heather and Rachelle discuss Robert Christian Hansen (aka the Butcher Baker) - the guy who took "The Most Dangerous Game" and turned it i...
Feb 22, 2019•54 min
Production of Season 2 is well underway! Here is the trailer! Huge shoutout and thank you to Nico of "We Talk of Dreams" for the new music! We are in love with it!!https://wetalkofdreams.com Also, huge shoutout to everyone who helped with the audio on this!Please tag yourselves on the social media posts!! :) #dontcallthecops #season2 #naturevsnarcissism
Jan 28, 2019•1 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather and Rachelle discuss two crime/murder stories that occurred on turkey day. In one story, you'll hear about a sister who uses the carving fork as a weapon! In the second story, you'll hear about a man who just didn't want his wife's family in his house. Unfortunately, the secon...
Nov 22, 2018•32 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. I am releasing this episode to the main feed to see what you guys think about the Split Second series. This is a series that I've started on Patreon and I would like to continue it as I have 3 episodes ready to be edited and posted. I am thinking about changing the Patreon tiers so that more listeners...
Nov 04, 2018•23 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. Did you know that in Indiana (where this case takes place) under extreme circumstances, children as young as 10 years old can be tried and sentenced in adult courts? The child that we will be discussing in this case remains one of the youngest EVER to be tried in this fashion. In this collaboration, H...
Oct 12, 2018•54 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this collaboration, Heather and Lisa (from the Eye for an Eye podcast) discuss the tragic death of 16-year-old Cincinnatian, Kyle Plush. He was reaching for a tennis racket that was located behind the seat in the back of his van when the seat collapsed, folding shut on the teen as he dialed 911 for...
Oct 05, 2018•1 hr 17 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this special collaboration episode, Heather teams up with Augie Peterson from the Short Stories of Augie Peterson podcast! In part 1; you will hear about the case of Elizabeth Short, aka the "Black Dahlia". This is found on the Nature vs Narcissism feed - well, would you look at that...you're alrea...
Sep 14, 2018•52 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. When Heather Saul opened her Charleston, WV door to greet the stranger she’d agreed to meet through an escort ad she had placed, she knew instantly she was in mortal danger. The man said just three words – “Live or die” – then held a gun to her stomach. The man grabbed Saul by the throat and dragged h...
Sep 09, 2018•1 hr 4 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. This episode is filled with shenanigans as dad and Ashley return for more crime & more stories. We recorded in the dining room as per the usual but we didn't wear headphones. At times, we couldn't tell how loud we were, so I tried adjusting and taking out the table bumps. After about halfway throu...
Sep 08, 2018•1 hr 56 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In the FINAL letter episode of Season 1, Heather and Rachelle discuss the Zebra Murders aka The Zebra Killings. The best way to describe them is via a direct quote that we found here: https://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2013/03/13/zebra-killer-denied-parole/ . The Zebra Killings were “execution-style shooti...
Aug 25, 2018•54 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. This is a very special episode where Heather has the amazing opportunity to interview Jason Eric Ross! Jason is a licensed Psychotherapist, an actor and writer! At the age of 48 he moved back to NYC and began acting on shows such as The Perfect Murder, Mysteries at the Museum, and Dateline Crime with ...
Aug 10, 2018•1 hr 24 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. This is a special minisode! In Episode 22: U (Unidentified Killers) with Megan, one of the killers covered was "The Doodler". We released the episode on 06/20/18 and received an article on 06/21/18 from Scott Fuller from the Frozen Truth podcast...with an update about The Doodler! This is super exciti...
Jul 10, 2018•16 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather and Megan discuss Unidentified Killers. Most people know of the famous, or shall I say infamous, serial killers. However, there are some serial killers whose identity baffles even the best of detectives…yes, I mean YOU; armchair detectives! Heather and Megan thought that it wo...
Jun 20, 2018•58 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. HEATHER IS FANGIRLING!!! In this episode, Heather invites Nick and Jessa from the Getting Off Podcast to discuss everyone’s eye candy serial killer; aka the Lady Killer, Ted Bundy. Although the Nature vs Narcissism Podcast has covered Ted Bundy in the past (Episode 2), we thought it would be fun to di...
Jun 07, 2018•1 hr 11 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather invites Dick and Max from the Off the Cuffs Podcast to discuss good ‘ol Jerome Brudos; aka the Shoe Fetish Slayer. We thought it would be fitting to discuss Jerry with folks who understand and are a part of the BDSM community. Although we covered a lot about Jerry, there’s sti...
May 06, 2018•1 hr 41 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Rachelle covers Robert Ben Rhoades (aka the Truck Stop Killer) and Heather covers Dennis Rader (aka the BTK Killer). Robert Ben Rhoades would pick up hitchhikers along the highways to torture and kill them. Whenever the females were with a male companion, Rhoades would shoot and kill ...
Apr 23, 2018•50 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In this episode, Heather covers Paul Michael Stephani (aka the Weepy-Voiced Killer) and Rachelle covers Philip Markoff (aka the Craigslist Killer). Paul had a tendency to call the cops on himself after killing his victims. He had so much guilt and remorse that he would call, while crying/weeping, to i...
Mar 26, 2018•53 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. Heather collaborates with Warbaby from the Murderous Minors: Killer Kids Podcast to break down this case and discuss some of the fascinating details surrounding it. Join us for the ride and be aware that this is not for the faint of heart. Two children abducted, beat, and killed another young child in...
Feb 12, 2018•59 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. Episode 12 focuses on two serial killers whom of which both have monikers. Lawrence Bittaker worked in cahoots with Roy Lewis Norris to rape and murder teenage girls. Together, they were known as the Toolbox Killers. Larry Eyler was known as the Interstate Killer and preyed on young boys/men along the...
Jan 19, 2018•1 hr 5 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. Episode 11 focuses on two serial killers whom of which both have monikers. Kenneth McDuff aka The Broomstick Killer and Kenneth Bianchi aka The Hillside Strangler(s). Please do not let little ears hear this episode…this episode contains a lot of adult content and plenty of rated R jokes/conversations....
Jan 12, 2018•1 hr 7 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. Episode 10 focuses on two serial killers whom have never been caught let alone convicted. Jack the Ripper and Jack the Stripper both terrorized the streets of London. They targeted working girls and although there have been many theories as to who committed the gruesome murders and why; the world may ...
Jan 05, 2018•1 hr 4 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. For our Christmas MURDERsode, Rachelle stopped by and we discussed three cases of murder that occurred on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. Our first case is about the Dayton Killing Spree from 1992 where a group of young adults; calling themselves the “Downtown Posse”, decided that it would be fun to r...
Dec 25, 2017•1 hr 3 min
*This is a listener FAVORITE from Season 1. We are using a new format and recording style for Season 3 and beyond. We have kept this episode on the main feed as it was one that the listeners loved. In MURDERsode 3, we discuss...uh...well...I guess, just listen to it. There's really not much that we can say at this point. We attempted to interview our dad about his time on the police force as well as any paranormal occurrences throughout his life. Shit got out of hand and there's not a whole lot ...
Dec 13, 2017•1 hr 17 min
