Is MAGA Welcomed Home? | MiniPod

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Welcome home, y'all.

All right, So on this mini pod, I will tell you, guys, we were having conversations off camera about engaging you guys, and one of the things that we've been wrestling with is having guests. We hear from you guys, and a lot of the people on our team say we wanted to hear you guys in conversation with more guests. Now, the question at issue is will we have guests. We don't want to be an echo chamber. We should have guests that we disagree with, sometimes opposing points of view.

What I would call nonsense.

So if there's somebody out there who is like a black maga.

Person to me, I hate what people say, Oh, I would.

Love to see you debate fill in the blank, any half wainted idiot out there, And I'm offended by it because why would I ever reduce myself to sit across from some of these people who I don't deem an equal to me, and I consider them a disgrace to society but most definitely to the ancestors. Should we be platforming those kind of people? Should we be in conversation with people, you know, who may feel differently than we do,

I don't shy away from that, But I just have.

An issue with, you know, I actually with when I was when Angela first started doing television, which I think is so funny.

Y'all sometimes will be out and girls will be like, I grew up.

Watching you as you grew up. But I remember when I would see Angela and they would have Angela on who is an attorney, former executive director of Caucus Business owner organizer, sit across from somebody who ain't nothing but a maga idiot, Like that's it. And you're presenting these

On this show?

I want to go.

Across do you I want to see her confront these people and question them and you know, make a fool of them because they're not going to be able to to you know, be a heavyweight with her. Andrew, what what do you think? What are your thought? Do you want to have those kind of people on the show? Would you want to interview a person like that?

So? No, I mean the the sure answers, No, I mean I probably. I don't mind dissent, I don't mind difference of opinion. I don't mind a good, well informed debate. But just because somebody went viral by their stupidity doesn't mean that we would have a good conversation and good by way of not agree or disagree with each other, but mostly have it be.

Informed, and I personally, I hope you have done some ship, but there's some credential.

You're not just this, Yeah, I got it, but I.

Guess yeah, And if you are random to me that somewhere what's been happening is is relevant. What you've been doing is relevant and not just trying to be I don't know, a bomb throw or a flamethrower or somebody who's just trying to get attention, like time out for that. But but if we disagree on something legit or you have a per perspective that I think is curious. Tiffany, I think I was talking to you one day and I was saying, Nope, it was you, Angela.

I was talking to you about someone in the Trump.

Administration who previously was a Democrat, had previously supported Democrats, lived in California, and made his conversion over to Trump on.

Frankly monetary policy at the international level.

And I was like, man, this so this you know, it's worth hearing this guy and what it is is to say. And by the end of the conversation, I actually was informed and I could hear him differently because I didn't put him in the category of just being a Trumper, But it took a little bit of convincing for me to be like, Okay, that I'll take an hour and listen to what this guy's got to say.

But the sensational I'm good on that.

Can I ask you all beyond the sensational, Let's say there are people who I actually have two questions, but I'm gonna go this first.

There are people like Gavin Newsom right now, right who.

Is utilizing his platform, is bringing people onto his platform, like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk or Steve Bannon. And it feels like to me, to be fair, I have not watched this thing, but I haven't seen clips.

That's all I see.

It feels like to me from the limited experience I've had with the clips, and I hate when people do this. So I am acknowledging that I'm being a hypocritic because I hate when people deserves but I'm absolutely doing I

Not like that.

But it's more like, let me understand your story, like how did you get here? You know, what led you down this road? Was there a tipping point for you? Like we have, we're in a tipping point right now. We're like, I don't think in twenty twenty two we would be talking about trying to get Chuck Schumer out of leadership, you know, as agitating as it might be, as some of us might prefer Cory Book or Elizabeth Warrener, I don't think that we would Necessarily'm loud it's making you.

I don't know that any.

Of us would have pushed for that, but there's a tipping point where you're just like, I've had enough.

Now my tipping point ain't like I had enough. But that's not my tipping point. That's not where I swing.

But I understand why there are some people who strategy might think if I shocked the conscience in this way, maybe the folks will do a one eighty I guess, but I would want to hear from them why and how, And then given your experience with these folks and how it's negatively and adversely impacting your people, how do you stay there?

Now?

I don't understand how you do the math of addition or multiplication for the next election without understanding some of that. I get it if you're like, it's just not my ministry. We've had that conversation before. But then I also don't

It's still a story, no less.

I just understand how I want to understand how we collectively here on this podcast thread that needle to get to the heart of the why, whether they voted for it or they're just impacted by those who voted for it.

I mean, I hear you.

I just think there've been so many books written about this, so many articles that come out all the time. I don't like that question has been asked and answered a thousand times.

There have been like.

Leading black folks, you know who's written about the popular vote last time.

I'm talking about this time.

But even this time, I think, you know, Michael Harriet, a friend of ours, you know, has written about this.

I don't know why.

We would choose this platform to extend to people who I think are mostly provocateurs who would salivate at the chance to come on the show and have some sort of exchange with you.

I would not be part of it.

They'd have an exchange with you where you have this huge platform and they have none, and so now the only thing you've done is made them a superstar. There are people out there who I'm not even gonna give them the privilege of name checking them on this show. But there are black self hating black women out there. One we saw the DNC. Anyway, you'll go back and listen to that episode if.

You want to know who I'm not gonna.

Well, wellni willnee Andrew checking us for naming somebody right there.

Case you confused, Andrew is checking you right now with his eyes.

In case you're confused, I'm not very I'm very appreciative of your any who. There are black women, self hating black women out there, self hating black men out there who are only superstars because people platform them.

Because we talked about them.

We shared their clip, not we as individuals, but we in our community.

We shared their clips.

We extended our outrage, We went back and forth with them on Twitter, we made comments on Instagram. Then there were black people who said, come on my show. There are black events that said come sit in my platform, come sit on this stage. All they did was elevate a fool. They made superstars out of ignorant people. I don't want us to do that here. I think if there's some intellectual curiosity about that, there are other ways to do it. If there's an individual curiosity about that,

I grew up in the school opportunity on TV No, Andrew, I'll be done real quick.

I grew up in the school of I want to hear what this means. I'm about to tell you.

So on Washington Watch before Row had uh was it news.

News before news one?

Now he had uh Washington Watched, And every Friday I would be on with Armstrong Williams or Parents, Denard or Sure my Goal or whomever.

I forgot this other dude's name that really drove me nuts.

These are all black Republicans.

Republicans and so and it was an Elroy Sailor. It was at a time where they were far more palatable and reasonable. But some of them have gone with the wind with Trump, right, and I think are are gone.

Went to win with Trump. Other like where is Paris? Where is Paris?

I ain't nobody seeing nobody parents since he got into it with Phil Nobody looking for him either with Phil on CNN he made an accusation against him, and who was, you know, a national intelligence person?

Uh?

And then we never heard from Paris.

Lord Well, I hope they didn't often.

But the only point on parents Factory Wink, if you alive here, Andrew gonna kill me because I'm so down fifteen different tangents.

My point is just this.

I appreciated those conversations because even if I didn't agree with them, I heard another perspective I didn't. I was irritated with I did Breakfast Club and Byron Donalds came on, and I was very irritated by the lies and the fact that he whipped out this paper from allegedly from Larry Summers and I couldn't see the paper, and I'm like, I'm in on a zoom. I can't even see what you just pulled out to refute, you know what I mean.

Or contradicting voices on.

But they go into those spaces unchallenged, and they're lying the entire time.

Nobody fact checking them anyway, Andrew, I can keep going.

All those spaces need to stop having them.

Then Byron Donald shouldn't have had that literally have their own platform.

Now what was his ass in Selma? He ain't had no business being.

In Seloma saying and Selma that he doesn't support preclearance, coming back into the little guy making politics institute because of course they're bipartisans.

Anyway, go ahead, you.

Sorry, I don't conversation with Baron Donald's. Byron Donald's about the about his history, what he believes, how he shaped his belief systems, and so for and by the way, nobody should be coming after us for what they think are not a diverse enough arrayre of voices, because we need to get our house in order.

First.

There are a lot of us who largely vote the same way, who can give a real justification for.

The positioning around it.

And then those who, by the way, choose not to vote, who can't give a real, cogent and coherent reason why it is that they made the choice not to other than laziness or I don't believe in a system and yet you've not interrogated that system. So and I do treat differently, Angela. You're common around the person who has experienced the effects of the administration. I don't think that

The one thing, the one thing I want to ask is Lolo told us we were going to be doing these once a month live town halls.

I just made a face hit her. We haven't. We haven't done them yet.

And I think that maybe even having some type of convenient like that, where we're democratizing access to the platform without regard to how people are registered to vote, without regard to how they voted, I think that those are the kinds of things that we're missing. Tip every week is on our heads about not getting all the voter I mean voter questions newer questions, is what I'm trying to say. And I think that she's right. We do want to hear from you all. We want to continue

What do you care about?

What do you care about?

And how can we do you care enough about to do something?

Yes, how can we collectively work together on those things? I would love to have those conversations once a month on this podcast. I think when I consider what it means to be in the ethos of Native Lampod and what it means when we said welcome home, it is just that.

So I hope that we even since the members of Congress.

The Republicans won't have a town hall, you are well here, we will have a town.

We don't have.

All they getting dragted these sounds.

You saw this one where he was like, only Republicans come in and they checking their voter registractions.

Which but it's Republican voters who are mad too, which is so ridiculously. But I want to say this about distining voices because I don't want people to misunderstand me that I'm saying no, we should not have dissenting voices.

I think dissenting voices can be healthy.

And like I said, I appreciate a healthy exchange of ideas. I appreciate a healthy exchange of ideology. The only person in the Trump administration who I would be really curious and interested to talk to is Kevin Hassett, who is his economic advisor. I think he is number one a great communicator.

Brother. I agree with him or not, but.

I think and he's at least sensible, and he is laser focused on economic policy. I believe economic policy that crushes us and harms us. But I think he could at least come on and have an intellectual exchange.

Get your invitation.

If he would come on, Absolutely absolutely, I would definitely sit across from him, because I think that is where you get to hear ideas and not a shouting match. We're not trying to go viral. If it happens to go viral, that's fine. I'm not elevating a clown, you know, Like, this is somebody who actually has deep conviction in his thoughts around economic policy, and I don't think he's had the opportunity to hear from a lot of people like us.

Sign that God told me no, I guess.

But but people like that, like it's another chick who I think she was a her Her husband owns a strip club or something, you know whatever.

Yeah, I only want to.

Say her name, But this chick used to try to cheat me all the time and get my attention.

Like people like that, I'm like, no, you, why would I sit around?

What have you done?

That?

Are not talking about from personalities.

I'm talking about the folks who voted or in or mobilized voters in their communities.

Yeah, like what got you to that? No?

That, but that's not a voice of descent. I'm talking specifically about voices of descent. You all want to hear, you know, ideological differences. I'm completely open to that. I just am not interested in talking to people who are willfully ignorant because it's not going to be a fair fight if you come on here and you can't defend your ideas and you can't send.

We can show clips, I suppose, but if.

You can't handle the intellectual weight of the table, then you really don't have any business here. And I do respectfully think Kevin Hassett could, even though his policies I think are harmful. He could so that kind of thing. I like, but we wouldn't learn right. We had to at least agree on some basic facts. But I want to hear from the viewers and the listeners if you guys like want to see that type of exchange, and just tell us what kind of guests you'd like to

We will see you back here next week.

Welcome home, y'all, Welcome Home.

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