Ep. 85 "I am Insignificant and Incapable" Denise Clanin's False Narrative
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Ep. 84 "Success Means Following the Script" Mike Mattes' False Narrative
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Aug 09, 2025•35 min•Ep. 84
Ep. 83 Stephen McGhee
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Jul 29, 2025•48 min•Ep. 83
Ep. 82 "I Have to Fit in to be Valuable" Steve Leitch's False Narrative
Steve “Moby” Leitch was a swimmer before he was a Moby, a man before a ministry leader, and a wanderer long before he ever became rooted. Born into the world of evangelical Christianity—his father preaching alongside giants like Billy Graham—Steve grew up in the polished halls of faith, where sin was unspoken and perfection expected. But he found more belonging in the locker room than the pews. While swimmers laughed freely, churchgoers seemed like porcelain. And so he drifted. Trying to fit in ...
Jun 21, 2025•43 min•Ep. 82
Ep. 81 "I Don't Belong In Groups That Have A Collective Benefit For One Another" - Ryan Woodruff's False Narrative
Ryan Woodruff grew up a quiet and shy boy, shaped by constant moves and a fractured home. With no father figure and a mother working multiple jobs, Ryan built his identity on survival and self-isolation. A sense of direction came from the film Full Metal Jacket, which introduced him to the idea of brotherhood in the military. He joined the Marine Corps in 2005, seeking belonging and purpose. But war delivered trauma, not healing. Alcohol and avoidance became his coping mechanisms, stretching thr...
May 10, 2025•38 min•Ep. 81
Ep. 80 Epsilons in Narratives w/ Jonathan Heaslet
Jonathan Heaslet has been many things over the years. An economics & mathematics major, military, minister, healthcare executive, and more. Jonathan never planned on taking the long way around, but life has a funny way of handing you detours. He spent years chasing certainty, believing that success was a straight line—only to find that some of his best moments came from the unexpected twists. As a kid, he thought confidence was something you either had or didn’t. He learned the hard way that...
Apr 08, 2025•43 min•Ep. 80
Dave Guyor - Narrative Men's Leadership Summit 2024
"How 'abby' normal is your normal?" This powerful talk with Dave Guyor from our 2024 Narrative Summit dives deep into the loneliness epidemic, the impact of technology, and how we can reclaim the art of meaningful relationships.
Mar 15, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 79
Ep. 78 "I Must Constantly Prove My Worth To Earn Approval" - Kellan Fluckiger's False Narrative
In the glamorous world of high-powered executives, Kellan Fluckiger seemed to have it all – wealth, success, and influence. But beneath the Armani suits and corporate victories lay a man drowning in cocaine addiction, failed marriages, and a desperate need to prove his worth to a mother whose harsh discipline had left deep emotional scars. For decades, Kellan rode a destructive roller coaster of success and self-sabotage, making and losing fortunes, ruining three marriages, and struggling with t...
Feb 10, 2025•43 min•Ep. 78
Ep. 77 "Achievements Matter More Than Relationships" - Chris Bolinger's False Narrative
Chris Bolinger grew up in a high-achieving family with three accomplished older sisters and parents who modeled excellence in everything they did. As the youngest and only boy, he was somewhat spoiled but also inherited the family's drive for achievement and discipline. While this upbringing instilled many positive traits, it also led to two significant challenges: an excessive self-reliance that made him believe he was in control, and a tendency to value achievements over relationships. After a...
Jan 27, 2025•42 min•Ep. 77
Ep. 76 "Conflict is Dangerous and Will Make People Abandon Me" - Scott Mawdesley's False Narrative
Growing up in Michigan, Scott's early life was marked by dramatic changes. His family went from financial stability, with his father running a successful chiropractic practice, to severe hardship after a failed business relocation. Between ages 8 and 18, Scott lived in 13 different houses, including a period in a tent, and his family relied on their faith community for basic needs like food. The instability peaked when his mother temporarily left with his younger brothers, leaving Scott with his...
Jan 20, 2025•33 min•Ep. 76
Ep. 75 "You Can Be So Good That You Don't Need God" Chris "Harp" Harper's False Narrative
Growing up poor in backwoods Kentucky, Chris "Harp" Harper lived between two destructive narratives: believing he could become entirely self-sufficient and feeling utterly worthless. After losing his brother to a drug overdose and his mother to cancer, with an alcoholic father in the background, he became determined to overcome his circumstances through any means necessary. His drive for success led him to become outwardly confident and charismatic, but inwardly he was deeply insecure. He would ...
Nov 24, 2024•33 min•Ep. 75
Ep. 74 "No Matter How Hard I Work, I Won't Get What I Want" - Shamara "Star" Cox's False Narrative
From a young age, Star was plagued by a deep-seated belief that no matter how hard she tried, she would never get what she wanted in life. This stemmed from heartbreaking experiences with her father, who would make promises to her but then fail to follow through. When Star was 10, she asked her father for a bike, but after months of waiting, the bike he finally gave her was much too large. Other requests were met with similar disappointment - her father would tell her to just wait, but by the ti...
Nov 16, 2024•30 min•Ep. 74
Ep. 73 “I Am Unworthy Of Having My Needs Met” - Mike Hatch's False Narrative
From an early age, Mike Hatch learned to believe he was unworthy of having his needs met. Growing up in a tumultuous Christian household, he witnessed his parents' marriage fall apart, culminating in a pivotal moment when he and his brother had to call 911 during one of their fights. This experience led teenage Mike to conclude he was entirely on his own. This belief shaped his relationships into transactional exchanges, where he helped others solely to gain their approval. His unmet emotional n...
Nov 15, 2024•37 min•Ep. 73
Ep. 72 "I Am Alone" Clint Hatton's False Narrative
When Clint Hatton was 12, his world crumbled as his father's affair tore apart their seemingly normal Southern California family. His mother's subsequent suicide attempts and a failed family relocation to Montana left young Clint with a deep-seated belief: he was completely alone in life. This false narrative drove him into drugs and alcohol by his early teens. By 21, he was caught in a nine-year meth addiction. Though he managed to hold down a job in car sales, his first marriage ended in divor...
Nov 15, 2024•38 min•Ep. 72
Ep. 71 - Tim Croll & Steve Gohl "Healthy Narratives Vs. False Narratives"
In this episode, Tim and Steve reflect on the past few months of Narrative and discuss the influences that weigh on us in a false narrative. We know instinctively that everyone wants to own and be the author of their own story, but not too many people feel like they have that control with the different factors that are going on in our world. Connect with Tim & Steve: narrative.live Follow us on IG and Facebook @narrativelive Join our Discord to continue the conversation! https://discord.com/...
Nov 15, 2024•25 min•Ep. 71
Ep. 70 "Social Drinking Is Just Something You Do" - Garry VonMyhr's False Narrative
Garry VonMyhr, a Michigan-based serial entrepreneur and father of four, never saw himself as having an alcohol problem. Like many, he viewed drinking as a normal part of social life and business networking. But as the COVID-19 pandemic dragged on, Garry found himself questioning this ingrained habit. "I started feeling sluggish and less present with my kids," Garry reflects. "I realized I wasn't being the dad I aspired to be." This awakening sparked a journey of introspection that went beyond ju...
Nov 15, 2024•32 min•Ep. 70
Ep. 69 "Christians Need to Build an Army to Dominate the World" - Greg Tull's False Narrative
Raised in a conservative Christian homeschool environment, Greg's journey led him from the cornfields of Missouri to the bustling streets of New York City and the rigorous world of the Coast Guard. Greg's foundation is built on his Christian faith, but his experiences taught him to question and refine his beliefs without abandoning his core values. Greg advises to "enter every conversation with the assumption that you might be wrong.” As a marketing director, endurance athlete, and father, Greg ...
Nov 15, 2024•33 min•Ep. 69
Ep. 68 "I Didn't Want People to See That I Was Different" - Jake Fedida's False Narrative
Born with nerve damage on the right side of his body, Jake Fedida faced a world that wasn't designed for him. As a child, he hid behind his mother's leg, ashamed of his differences. But a chance encounter with his hero, Derek Jeter, changed everything. On August 6, 2003, ten-year-old Jake met the Yankees legend. To his surprise, Jeter thought Jake's unique way of playing baseball was "awesome." This simple affirmation from his idol transformed Jake's perspective overnight. "That was all I needed...
Nov 15, 2024•33 min•Ep. 68
Ep. 67 "I'm Not Safe" Mike Stapleton's False Narrative
"If the creator of the universe knows everything you're ever going to do and everything you ever might do. If you're so bad, why would he make you? Obviously, it's a rhetorical question, because, he wouldn't." - Mike Stapleton Mike had a pretty rough childhood, dealing with sexual abuse and later his parents' separation, which left him feeling a constant sense of shame and insecurity. He didn't feel safe and developed what he described as split personalities. Michael was the person he had to be ...
Jul 27, 2024•35 min•Ep. 67
Ep. 66 How Open Communication Is the Key to Supporting Change and Mutual Growth
"There's something about real community. If you have real community and real friends and allies and people that understand and want to understand your story and what your life's about, that's huge." - Steve Gohl Life is not perfect for anyone. It may seem as though someone you know has it all but I promise you they too have faced hard times. What do you do in hard times? Do you journal? Do you have a community to lean on? In this new format we’ll be offering how to advice once a month in additio...
Jul 20, 2024•33 min•Ep. 66
Ep. 65 "You Are Supposed To Go To College, Get a Job, And Retire." Vance Morris's False Narrative
"You won't profit unless you implement. And if you take the word profit out and you want to put in the word success, you won't have success unless you implement." - Vance Morris "You're going to college" said Vance Morri's parents and he didn't question it. That's what you were "supposed to do right?" Go to college, get a job, and eventually retire. Vance had success at Disney and then a retirement community. Until he didn't. Vance wanted to do things his way and the standard didn't allow for an...
Jul 06, 2024•31 min•Ep. 65
Ep. 64 "Be the Best, To Get the Best, So Others's Think You Are the Best!" Jen Pointer's False Narrative
"It's not something that I can change from my past, and I wouldn't change my past. My past has gotten me to where I'm at today." - Jen Pointer Growing up, Jen Pointer's identity was shaped by a false narrative that she had to conform to societal expectations and define herself through external achievements. She felt the pressure to follow a traditional path of success, leading her to believe that her worth was tied to her job title and accomplishments. A pivotal momentS came when Jen faced signi...
Jun 29, 2024•35 min•Ep. 64
Ep. 63 "I Need To Escape My Family" Vinnie Fisher's False Narrative
"Be the encourager for everybody. That you want for yourself." - Vinnie Fisher Vinnie Fisher has a captivating journey from a childhood marked by poverty and dysfunction to becoming a successful entrepreneur and mentor. Vinnie shared how he initially believed the false narrative that "I need to escape my family"due to his circumstances, define his future, but his determination to excel in academics and sports set him on a different path. Despite facing adversity, Vinnie found inspiration in his ...
Jun 22, 2024•33 min•Ep. 63
Ep. 62 "I Have To Fight For the Underdog" Mike Thomas's False Narrative
"Everybody has a story to tell regardless of what they look like, regardless of where they come from." - Mike Thomas Mike Thomas, a man whose journey from an emotional childhood to a purpose-driven adulthood always placed him in a position to fight for the underdog. Raised in a challenging environment, Mike's older brother, Bub, was born with Aperts Syndrome. He had physical deformities but was not mentally challenged. Throughout school, Mike tried to include his brother. He hated the idea of an...
Jun 15, 2024•34 min•Ep. 62
Ep. 61 "I Can't Be Successful In School" Warren Mainard's False Narrative
"What does God say about me? And what God says about me is that because of Christ and what he did for me, I am good enough." - Warren Mainard Warren had an abundance of confidence that he could do anything. But when Warren's kindergarten teacher identified Warren Mainard as having dyslexia, he was forced to repeat Kindergarten. The message Warren took from that was he was flawed, he'd never be good at school, and school was easier for the other kids. We discussed how the teacher taking action FO...
Jun 08, 2024•32 min•Ep. 61
Ep. 60 "I Don't Measure Up" Matt Clark's False Narrative
"My true purpose, my true mission in life, is masculinity, marriage, and mindset." - Matt Clark Matt Clark shares his childhood struggles with imposter syndrome in baseball, shaped by a false narrative that he didn't measure up. Growing up Matt grappled with feelings of inadequacy which is common today due to societal pressures and the impact of social media. Despite putting on a brave front and a successful career, he felt like he was constantly falling short of expectations, leading to a deep ...
Jun 01, 2024•35 min•Ep. 60
Ep. 59 "Money is a Four Letter Word" Neil Twa's False Narrative
"It's who I know that gets me in the door, and it's what I know that keeps me there." - Neil Twa Neil Twa shares how a false narrative of a scarcity mindset, around money, shaped his perspective on life from a young age. He saw other's with money so he just had to figure out how he could get some too. Discover how his early experiences of getting out of town set the stage for a journey of self-discovery and growth. Then, a significant "bend in the road" altered Neil's trajectory, challenging his...
May 25, 2024•38 min•Ep. 59
Ep. 58 "Be a Good Girl and Don't Let Down My Parents" Gerry Wilson's False Narrative
Gerry Wilson was an only child. She watched her father work 12 hour days. She saw her parents sacrifice to provide an idyllic childhood. Somehow she learned that she needed to be a good girl which meant being perfect and she didn't want to let her parents down! Gerry grew up and got married. Eveything seemed in place until her fairy-tale marriage took an unexpected detour, she found herself at a crossroads. The cracks in her perfect facade revealed a new path filled with twists and turns, challe...
May 18, 2024•30 min•Ep. 58
Ep. 57 Another Look At "My Work Is My Identity" from Kathy Izard False Narrative
I knew Kathy Izard's episode was worthy of revisiting. We discussed the powerful theme of "My Work Is My Identity." Kathy's early years were dominated by a high-achieving, picture-perfect family facade in Texas, where ambitions were high, and family struggles were kept behind closed doors. Discover how these early experiences forged a false narrative that conflated personal value with professional success, setting the stage for a profound personal journey. Hear about the pivotal "bend in the roa...
May 11, 2024•36 min•Ep. 57
Ep. 56 "Success Means Staying In One Career And That Is Your Identity" Gery Deer's False Narrative
I sat down with Gery Deer, diving into the early narratives that shaped him from a young age. Growing up surrounded by specific societal and familial expectations, Gery discusses how these early influences scripted his life in ways he didn’t initially see. Ever wonder how much of your life is shaped by what you're told you should do versus what you want to do? Gery hits a major crossroads during his college years, where everything he thought he knew about his path comes into question. From losin...
May 04, 2024•39 min•Ep. 56
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