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on Twitter or email me at Mythicmindpodcast at gmail dot com. I was recently invited onto the Classical Life podcast to discuss Tolkien, Lewis and related topics. I'm including a snippet of that conversation, but encourage you to head over to the Classical Life podcast to listen to the entire thing. And so here is that snippet. But there's been no author like Georgia Lwell the Brave New World. None of them have been as prescient as Tokien and Lewis with their belief
in the technocracy. And I think that's true in the aspect of the Ransom trilogy, but I think it's also true in a different you know, the men without Chest that he talks about in the Abolition of Man, he kind of puts in his vision of the last days of Narnia, especially with the Dwarves and these people that would get so wrapped up in a reality that's also simultaneously in unreality at the same time. It's like these half truths and the
dwarves that get stuck in their own imaginations. And I just see that everywhere all the time with these people who are just like the Dwarves are. For the Dwarves, we won't get taken in. But you got so worried about not getting taken in that now you can't be taken out when the actual Because the hardest thing to grapple with is the Dwarves were right when it came to the stable. What was said is in the stable isn't what was in the
stable. But the problem is at some point the stable got removed, and like the stable's not even there anymore. You're you're on the other side. But you were so enraptured that you were right about this one thing that you couldn't see all of the other things that are happening at the same time. And I just see that everywhere with people who are just enraptured and enthralled with these conspiracy theories that are half truths. You know, parts of them are
real, parts of them aren't real. But if you get so obsessed with these certain things that you can't see anything, then you you will you'll be so taken into yourself, you'll get so reclused into or you'll get so enraptured in trying not to be deceived, that you'll end up deceiving yourself essentially, and you won't be able to see the truth when it comes. Yeah, I think that's true. I mean the dwarves are for the dwarfs, they
were not going to get taken in. They have this idea that you know, unlike everybody else, they could just see the world for what it was. Yeah, and that really gets to that. But Tolkien andlew Has had that the modern myth is that they don't live according to a myth, right that the Yeah exactly, you know, I, like I said, I teach intro to philosophy at a public university and one thing that I'm one thing that I'm doing on a regular basis is just helping them understand that they have
an understanding of the world already. Meaning nobody is the you know, totally neutral or even that the you know, total relativist that they claim to be. That everybody has a worldview that they're imposing upon the world. And so even if we go the naturalistic scientific approach, which is still pretty popular into post postmodernity despite some contradictions there, but you know, they say that we just see the world as it is through science. The problem is the presuppositions
it takes to get to that point are not themselves scientific. Right, There's no scientific experiment you can run that's going to demonstrate that knowledge is only to be found in science. And so, you know, what that shows us is that there are other non scientific, even metaphysical forces that are driving the modern worldview despite its claims. And so what that means is that you know, even the naturalists, the scientist is not seeing the world as it is.
They're being led by metaphysical reality. The only problem is they're not willing to look at what they are and so they're essentially being led by the voices of race that are not going to lead them where they want to go at the very least not where everybody else wants them to go. Yeah. Yeah, there's two things that are really interesting. I. C. S. Lewis has a lot to say about science and what science can and can't do.
One of the examples I really enjoyed when he was talking about the concept of miracles is you know, if you're hitting a pool ball and you're trying and you can figure all the geometry to get it there, but you can't figure out if somebody else is going to come and grab the cue before it
even hits the ball. So that's one thing. The other thing is, yeah, I mean, I know, I go to a public university, and it's just astounding the levels of relativism that that you see there that people and people think they're they're trapped by this materialism, that they think that there
is nothing out there. But at the same time they're the materialist magicians that Lewis once again talks about in screwtape letters, who believe in You know, I can't tell you how many times I've been called foolish for believing in God. And then they tell me like, oh, what, you were born in April, you're a this star or that star, all this astrology stuff.
It's like you don't see any kind of similarities there at all. You don't see anything like the stars determined that like my attitude, like really, and I think that it's crazy that people, well, it's actually not crazy. And I think one of the reasons it's not crazy. And this is something that I was hoping we would get to because you teach medieval philosophy and
one of the things that we're all taught as younger individuals. Is that everybody like before nineteen sixty seven when we invented air conditioning, that everybody before then was just foolish and silly and they were idiots. Can you speak to that a little bit, about that misconception that people before the modern age were just
foolish. Yeah. In Lewis's book The Discarded Image, he makes the point that the difference between the modern man and the medieval man is not that one was ignorant and the other was it, but it was that the medieval man knew that he was ignorant. Again. For the full conversation, check out the Classical Life podcast. I'm a little late posting this, but it looks like the main episode is published about a month ago on January twenty seventh, and so go take a look for that. And that's it for now.
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