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A Tale of Strength and Hope with Jacinda

Oct 02, 202356 minSeason 3Ep. 6
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How does it feel to live with chronic illnesses? To manage the pain and the everyday tasks while dealing with the physical, emotional, and mental impacts? It's a journey that our guest, Jacinda, also known as Virgo Beauty, knows all too well. Diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis at a tender age of five, life threw a curveball at her in 2016 when she experienced a severe flare-up that left her bedridden. Today, she lives with RA and the rare Stills disease, navigating the labyrinth of chronic illnesses with courage and resilience.

We follow Jacinda's arduous journey, immersing ourselves in her daily battles and victories. She unravels her health regimen - balancing medications, lifestyle changes, and the endless search for the right doctor. She opens her Spoonie toolkit for us, revealing the little aids that help her navigate her day - hand sanitizers, ginger candies for motion sickness, and more. But it's not just about the physical battle; Jacinda's story is also about the mental and emotional warfare of living with a chronic illness. 

In our candid conversation, Jacinda speaks of her support system's crucial role in managing her mental health. She shares her daily affirmations and meditation rituals that keep her spirits high. We delve into the essence of authenticity and vulnerability in managing chronic illnesses, discussing how important it is to stay true to oneself while battling such conditions. Join us on this journey of strength, resilience, and hope as we delve into the world of chronic illnesses with Jacinda.

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Living With Rheumatoid Arthritis and Stills

Jen

Hi , my Spoonie sisters , I am your host , Gracefully , Jen , and I am so thrilled . She's pretty new to me . I don't know if she's new to you , but this is just Jacinda , otherwise known as Virgo Beauty . Hi , how are you today ?

Virgo

Hi , beautiful , I'm doing good . How are you ?

Jen

I'm so excited that you reached out to me . I'm so thrilled to have you on here . I love watching all your dance videos and it's just so much fun and encouraging .

Virgo

Thank you so much for sharing that . Definitely , I love your content as well , thank you , thank you . Thank you so much for having me . This is something that I've been wanting to do for a while , and I'm excited , I'm excited .

Jen

Well , thank you so much . Do you mind sharing just a little bit of your diagnosis story , so we can kind of get people to get to know you a little better ?

Virgo

Of course , sure . When I was five years old . That's when I got diagnosed with JRA juvenile rheumatoid arthritis . For years , I believed that I went into remission . I was in dancing school . That's the love of my life and it's been with me since forever . The only thing that I had was anemia problems .

When the weather would change , my knees would get a little bit swelled up , but it wasn't as bad as what happened in October 2016 . Like I said , years went by . Maybe it was because I was active , I don't know . Maybe it was remission , but in October 2016 , I was 22 years old and this is when my life changed , literally .

I had a really , really bad flare-up . This consisted of everything my throat was swollen , I couldn't really talk , I was nauseous , I had heart palpitations , I had joint pain , I had the rash . It was just literally everything to where it was so bad . I became bedridden and I couldn't move , couldn't take care of myself , nothing . It was so bad .

Then , two years later after that , after going through the whole journey , being on different medications and fusions and just trying to really figure out what's going on 2018 , two years later after that , I officially got diagnosed with RA and Stills disease .

Jen

Oh wow , how did you even begin to wrap your head around that ?

Virgo

It was a lot . It was literally a lot . I don't know if you can hear my voice . This is a very emotional topic for me . I think when everybody goes through something like that , to where you get to be bedridden , it's very overwhelming . This journey is still going . It's a lot .

At the moment when I was going through it , I really thought I was just allergic . I thought it was allergic reaction to something . I thought it was something that's going to just okay , I'm very sick , but it's going to go away .

I think this was going to end up being a lifelong chronic condition , even with me knowing that my mom she educated me about the five years old situation where I was diagnosed with JR RA . I guess , since years went by , we haven't really jumped back on the topic or anything like that , because I was fine . I guess .

She left it alone and was like you know what I'm not going to bring it up again because she's been fine . When that flare-up in 2016 happened that's when it was like everything was just revisiting she was like yeah , well , when you was five years old , I told you .

Then , when I started researching , I was just like okay , this actually makes a little bit more sense .

Jen

Yeah , absolutely Okay . You had the original diagnosis at five , but a lot of parents left it alone . You seemed like you were doing fine at the time when you had the big flare-up . How old did you say you were again ?

Virgo

I was 22 , and now I'm 28 years old .

Jen

Oh my gosh , Okay , To be barely out of high school ? I mean your whole future ahead of you , that's just got to be so . Oh my gosh , my mind just went blank . I have a word there , oh my gosh . The opposite of encouraging . Oh my goodness , hello . Sorry about my brain today . No , it's okay . How about discouraging is the word ?

Virgo

That had to be so discouraging at the age of 22 .

Jen

Your life is just getting going .

Virgo

Yeah , definitely , definitely .

Jen

Yeah , I don't know about you , but I think a lot of us growing up . When we hear arthritis , it doesn't even matter what kind of arthritis , we just hear that word and we automatically just think , oh , they're a little stiff and sore and that's about it .

You don't think about the other things that are going to come along with it or the fact that it's going to be this lifelong , never ending battle . Your life is forever changed .

Virgo

Correct . Yeah , you're definitely right . This is why I was so shocked . But then I really wasn't , because I knew of the past . But then , as I started researching , I was like , wow , I literally changed my life . I really give it to those who have any chronic condition . It is a struggle . It is a struggle .

We are so strong , going through this every single day .

Jen

Absolutely Okay . You mentioned Stills disease . I don't really personally know much about it , but how did that come about ? What did you start noticing ?

Virgo

Stills disease is another form of arthritis . From what I've researched and what I've known , it's a rare condition . To what I found out , yeah , basically , ra is the arthritis form and Stills is the whole autoimmune , anti-inflammatory situation that's going on .

I feel like that's the rash and everything that I go through , like the fever and the rash and everything else , with the joint pain and the whole . That's the arthritis situation with the RA . Yeah , basically , stills is basically the same thing but it's different . That makes sense . It's very confusing because even me still looking and still learning it's rare .

I'm still learning too , about it as well right now .

Jen

I'm not going to lie . I'm asking Dr Google right now . Yes , okay , let's see . Here I'll tell you what Dr Google has for me . Yes , adult onset Stills disease , also known as systemic onset juvenile idiopathic arthritis , is a rare systemic inflammatory disorder characterized by inflammatory polyarthritis , daily fever and a transient salmon pink macular rash .

That's a mouthful , then a bunch of weird words . I don't understand . I'm not even going to try to say those two words . It's asking like is it kind of like lupus ? Let's see . Systemic lupus and Stills disease are chronic autoimmune disorders of unknown etiology . Okay , well , that was not helpful .

Virgo

Yes , it's crazy because I have not really met , really interacted with anybody who has Stills . I always come across people who have lupus or something with the chronic illness community , but I have not yet really became friends with someone who has Stills .

Jen

I'm still yearning for that because you know , I'm so not going to lie with you right now . I'm sitting here going , well , I've got this and I've got this and I've got this . And I'm like , why , why has my doctor not mentioned this ?

Virgo

Right , listen , girl . It took two years . Two years and I'm still a little bit puzzled about it . I'm still kind of pushing to get like another opinion , because listen , it's always good , I mean , I know with a lot of these autoinflammatory diseases we do get low-grade fevers .

Jen

Honestly , when I get a low-grade fever , I know a flare is coming . Yes , me too . Yes , I mean swollen lymph nodes that it's talking about . Oh my gosh , don't even get me started on that one . I always have a sore throat . I'm always getting sinus infections . They want to take my tonsils out . Painful , stiff joints will duh . I mean .

You have RA also Muscle pain duh . Yeah , that's there . But what tell me about the salmon-colored rash that it's describing ?

Virgo

Yeah , so it's basically a rash that happens to appear all over my body and it's a little bit raised , it's hot and it's extremely itchy , so uncomfortable . When I was admitted in the hospital like the three times I was , or maybe even more I had I was covered in it and I had to put Calamine Lotion . That did not even work . Nothing really worked .

The thing that I would say had an effect on easing the pain was the steroids which I was on prednisone . I was on a very high dosage of it and basically we all know that that suppresses the immune system . So that helped

Navigating the Journey of Chronic Illness

me . But this usually happens right before I'm going to have a bad flera . But also , this journey is very confusing because I do see myself having it now as well , on just normal days , throughout the night or sometimes throughout the day . I'll have it , but it's very minimal now and maybe it's because of the medication that I'm on and going through that .

So , but yeah , it goes on my face very little bit now sometimes and it'll go on my legs sometimes , my hip , my chest , my arms very little bit now , but I still get it , Not as bad as what I used to get before , which is good , because before it was really . It was horrible , horrible .

Jen

Or is it a little bit like psoriasis kind of ?

Virgo

It's not like scaly or like dry skin , it's just like a pink . It's like , you know , you get a bit by a mosquito , okay okay , and it gets a little bit raised and like you start to itch it and it's like pink and stuff . It's like that .

But there's like no Dry skin like to itch because my mom , she , has psoriasis and and to make you up , so I am definitely oh yeah , we're how it appears .

Jen

That honestly sounds a lot like more like what my daughter gets , because they've been not sure about diagnosing her with with Psoriasis , because there's so many different versions of psoriasis and eczema and all the different skin things I mean there's so many .

But that sounds more like what she gets because like , but sometimes it's not itchy , she'll get covered in it and she's like it's just annoying and I hate it . Right , not itchy right now , but sometimes it is so , oh my gosh , like all these these illnesses , they just .

I Wish we had more answers and I'm sure the brometologist and and all the other specialists do too . I just it sucks .

Virgo

Yeah , it could be very difficult , especially , you know you want to be sure , so you know I can definitely imagine how the doctors are feeling when they're trying to diagnose somebody and it could be difficult . And then you know , it takes two years and or maybe longer . I can feel both of the you know , the patient and the doctor's stress of that .

It's yeah .

Jen

Well , yeah , and looking at what it's saying for the symptoms of stills , I mean it's overlapping with so many other auto inflammatory Conditions that you know you could have all of them but not have the salmon colored rash . So they might , they might not be sure . Right , I could see that . Oh yeah , I would not want their job .

Virgo

Yeah , that's definitely . Um , I think that's the reason why they took so long to diagnose me too , even before , like they just didn't really know .

They kept saying , well , well , you might have this , you might have this , you might have lupus , you might have , you know , all these other things that they thought I had because of the fact that I was having one symptom and but I wasn't having the other , so , you know , they were trying to rule it out . That was like that journey .

It was great , it was so crazy .

Jen

But did you feel like they communicated pretty well with you ?

Virgo

Yeah , I feel like they did . I'm happy with my rheumatologist now , um , before I was not happy with , you know , my doctors and everybody has their opinion , so I'm glad that I pushed forward to Continue to look for the right all communication amongst a doctor , especially your rheumatologist .

You know they have to be like your best friend because that's the one that you're Constantly seeing , you know , monthly or every two months or whatever , because I go to my rheumatologist a lot and At this moment now I'm grateful to have her .

She , she's great , um , but before , yeah , it was a struggle Um , I I didn't really take a liking to my previous rheumatologist or doctor , so I hear that I echo that I .

Jen

You know my first one . Oh my goodness , I could have done without him . But the second one , she's amazing . I have moved . I lived four hours away from her and I was still driving the four hours to go see her .

Virgo

Yes , that's what we do .

Jen

We have to because , yeah , everybody's the same you know , yeah , and you find someone that you know really is compassionate and wants to help you , you obviously don't want to leave that person .

I mean , I guess , like , if it got expensive , like too expensive to drive , you know , I'm sure there's people that wouldn't want to do that , but I have family over there and I only have to see mine a few times a year and so to me it's like , well , you know , I can make a week out of it , go visit , you know , my , my sister-in-law and my niece and

everything and and have , you know , have a week trip and yeah , do all the things , yeah . So what is your treatment ? Treatment slash care plan . Look like right now .

Virgo

Right now I am on medrawl Daily every day . I am on methotrexate once a week and I'm also on hydrochloroquine Okay , yeah , and I was on other ones on which Works for some time and then didn't . But uh , I feel , as of right now I am I guess I would not say okay but I am better , much , much better , right , because before I was hospitalized .

So you know , now it's better , but I do still feel that I am still on this journey of figuring out what is better for me and what will work for me . You know I still get we all , you know I , I can definitely know that .

You know everybody can relate with this where you're on something but you still are feeling sick and you're still going through the stuff .

You know , and I'm not , it's not gonna be perfect , but I do feel that there should I have hope , I guess , and faith that there's gonna be something else , probably , uh , another infusion that I can take or something that will just make me feel a little bit more better , because I do go through the joint pain still .

I still go through the rash is still , I still go through . You know the , the symptoms and of course , you know we're taking medication . We also do experience the side effects of that too .

But , um , my markers have been good , which is a good sign , but what with what I've been experiencing , um Before with all the other previous medication , I just feel personally that I Am not done yet . If that makes sense .

Jen

Yeah , it definitely does . And I think you know , like you said , we we're constantly on the lookout for that , that magic combination , right , and uh , it's also a kind of a . We're working with our doctor to figure out what they think would work best for us .

But we're also advocating for ourselves as well , and you know , progress is great , uh , but I'll you know , like my rheumatologist said , she's like , uh , you know you're , you're having some improvement , but I want to see better .

I think you can do better and you deserve better , and so I think a lot of us are always looking for that better , and we we realize there's not going to be . This magic Pilled is going to happen overnight . Bye , you know . At the same time , medical remission would be great , right , right yes , I totally agree , yeah .

Okay , so besides the medications , is there anything else that you do ?

Virgo

Um , I like as in like For your care plan Okay um . I mean , I dance , so that helps in the physical active . You know , because they say , with us going through this , we do have to still be active . Um , you know , of course I don't diet but I do try to eat as best as I can , other fruits and vegetables , water , meditation , that helps as well .

You know , stretching here and there , and just I continue to push myself for the best . You know , I research and I'm just like you know what I have to try things you can't be scared . So I try my best to really figure out what is suitable for me , because everyone's different too 100% .

Jen

So , looking back , do you wish that there was something you would have known at the beginning ?

Virgo

I would . I , in the beginning , I wish I knew to be patient , to have more faith . You know that everybody's story is totally different , that this does not define me , that I don't have to , like you know , hate myself , that there is a community out there and support out there .

You know like the help app and you know Facebook that have all these group pages . You know that there are people and I wish I knew that in the beginning . I'm not gonna lie , I really really really want to . In the beginning it was very emotionally draining and exhausting and this is like something I feel that really really changed my life .

And you know they always say the what I say with pain comes strength and I feel like you know , with me going through that , it made me stronger and sometimes we don't realize like the most emotional or traumatizing , the worst thing in life , or like the worst situation you ever go through .

You're like looking at it at the point like damn , oh my God , why is this happening to me ? Or like you're so pissed off or you're so emotionally drained . But you know afterwards you tend to realize that this really makes you strong and this makes you into who you are , but as a better person . I think it's a wonderful look out .

Jen

I look I can't even talk today . Oh my goodness , I'm so glad you're a patient person . That's a wonderful outlook . Is what I was trying to say .

Oh my goodness , All right , I'm leaving it in there because you know what people need to know that sometimes we're just a hot mess and I'm not going to pretend that I'm not a hot mess sometimes , so here we go .

Right , you're human okay , Exactly , but I love your outlook and I think it's really crucial that you know we're going to have our days right and it's okay if we mourn the life that we had . It's okay if we're angry , if we're sad , but at the same time , don't sit in it too long . I think that's my biggest worry for people is sitting in it too long .

Because I think I'm sitting in it too long , because that's my biggest regret is that I did . I had outlook that my life was over and that I was like a nine year old lady , and that's that's what I'm just not in my head .

Virgo

I'm just not in , because I can definitely relate and you were . You were totally right . I , when I , when I communicate with other people and like they tell me how they feel , I just want to give them a hug because I can definitely understand and relate .

This is why I try my best , my absolute best , to be , you know , not a perfect dancer , but you know I want to be a public figure . I want to be an advocate . I want to do so much more and , like , even with going through this , I know for sure that I could share my story and I know it's .

It's going to touch so many people and that's all I want to do . I just want to , you know , that's , that's the main goal that we're trying to do . We want others to to relate , but also , like you know , we are there , we know we understand what you're going through and it's okay . It's definitely okay , you know .

This is why I provide the outlet that I do with , with dance . You know I don't want to be perfect . I don't want to be . You know , I want to be that person within , doing what I love , but , you know , showing them that you can do it , you know , and I definitely can relate , you know .

Jen

Definitely . And look at you . You're doing it , you're doing it . And people like me can log in one day and I'm having a rough day and all I have to do is see your smiling face doing one of your awesome videos and right there we're giggling and we're encouraged and we're lifted , and that's what I love about this community .

That is what we're here for , and I wish , I wish I would have had this 10 years ago .

Virgo

Yeah , yeah , it was . It was a journey for me to gain the courage to actually do what I'm doing now . And even now it's I get nervous , you know , but I'm like you know what you're saying to know you have to do it .

You know , virgo , beauty is like my alter ego , just a strong aspect of me , not that just in the isn't , but I definitely we all have to push ourselves , not even just me . We all , if we , you know , believe in something . We have that vision . That vision is there for a reason .

We have this all for a reason and we can really definitely fulfill our purpose .

Jen

Absolutely , and that's actually you said the word I was going to say . You have a purpose . Each one of us have a purpose and I really strongly believe that you know we can share what it is we're passionate about and our purpose will shine .

And our purpose will be there to support others with what we're doing , and I think that's so important for all of us to just to jump in , stop being afraid and just jump in and do what you're passionate about . And stop being afraid , because we're going to encourage somebody else and somebody needs you right now and you might not know it .

So , listeners out there , listen right now , because just send an I or I'm sure you're on the same page as me . We want you to realize you can do this . Yes , definitely , because someone needs to hear your story . So , okay , I'm off my rant now .

Spoonie Toolkit and Journey Advice

What is your Spoonie toolkit ? Look like .

Virgo

I guess hand sanitizer definitely , because you know the germs got to go away .

Jen

Oh my meds , how does that affect your skin , though ? That's my question .

Virgo

Um affect my skin . No-transcript .

Jen

So , like with the rashes and stuff , does it cause any problems or pain ?

Virgo

No it hasn't Okay , good as of yet . Yeah , as of yet . No , it has not . So I haven't experienced that . But yeah , that's actually interesting . I never thought about that . I was like , huh , I had to stop .

Jen

I was like , wait , what ? Oh my gosh ? And see , the reason I'm asking is because when I first so I'm allergic to TNF inhibitors and it caused me to get postural psoriasis . And so whenever I'm super stressed or wash my hands too much or anything like , or even anything on my hands that aggravates them , they'll break out .

And so , like when the whole COVID thing happened and everyone's using sanitizer , I was all freaked out because sanitizer literally makes me feel like my skin is burning , like it's going to melt . So that's why I was asking , because I am , oh my gosh . So I have this stuff that I get from DoTERRA .

It's an essential oil company and it has some kind of essential oil combination . That is like using sanitizer , but I could use it on my skin without making it feel like it was going to melt .

Virgo

Okay , wow , this is good to know . Wow , see , look example right here .

Jen

Everybody has a different story with things , see , Exactly , and there's going to be someone that's freaked out about sanitizer . Okay , enough about me , we're back to you . So , okay , I'm asking for five things , if you can think of five . So your first one is hand sanitizer .

Virgo

I would say the next one will be Vaseline , because my skin is dry and I see that that just works the best . Like that or like Blistex , something that has to do with like a lotion but like no perfume and it's just like a regular kind of like coconut oil . Yeah , definitely carry my meds .

Vitamins I get nauseous a lot , so I always need like Toms or like a mint or like some type of minty gum . I cannot stay in the bus or car service or anything so long . That's been a thing when we since young I always get nauseous . I don't know if that like can relate to anybody else , like with going through chronic .

I don't know if that has to do with that , but that is definitely . And also Tylenol . It's bad , I know , but when I'm in like really bad pain I need Tylenol .

Jen

But yeah , I absolutely get that , so okay . So back to the nausea thing . So I totally silly you on that one . So I'm going to actually tell you about the thing I use . Have you ever tried ginger juice ?

Virgo

No , but I actually saw them when I went food shopping .

Other than I was really contemplating on picking them up and you know what , now that you said that I'm going to get them because I saw them and I was like this is pretty interesting and I know ginger and like that that's really good for the inflammation and stomach and I actually have ginger tea too , that I drink a lot .

But , girl , definitely , yes , tell me .

Jen

Okay . So I know it's not for everyone , but I love them . I love them because , like you , I get car sick and I just get all gross and everything , but I carry them in the car .

And we actually , back in March , we went to Hawaii and while I was there , at the ABC store for anyone who's ever been is like the most amazing store , everything's cheap I saw all kinds of fun flavors I'd never tried before , and so I came home with like a mango one and some other fun flavors . But , oh my gosh , get the flavors .

I mean , unless you like regular ginger by itself , which is fine , but the flavors are fun . So if you can find like an orange or a mango I think there's even apple or something definitely go with that , okay .

Virgo

Yeah , I'm definitely going to get that , because I saw and they did have other flavors they had like ginger , lemon , and then they had like ginger , something else , and I was like , oh , this is interesting . I was there looking and I was like , hmm , but what if I don't like it ? I was like , all right , next time .

But definitely you said that yeah , I'm going to pick it up and I'll let you know how it tastes .

Jen

And usually they're really cheap . So you know , I don't know what kind of grocery store you have nearby , but usually a regular grocery store you can find them super cheap . Yeah , it's maybe three or four bucks for a bag and honestly I don't have to use them too often , so I think a bag lasts me a few months .

Oh yeah , yeah , so , and I like to suck on them . I mean , I know the people who want them , but I've put their hands suck on them because if I'm going to car or something . It makes me think too , when I start feeling gross .

Virgo

Yeah , I really don't like it . For some reason , I don't know why , but when I go on a bus or car service or even the train , sometimes , if I'm on it like for a very long time , more than like 30 minutes I start to like I have to fall asleep in the car or the bus or something in order for me to like , just ignore it .

It's probably like the motion sickness . I'm probably just extremely sensitive to it .

Jen

Dang , now you're in New York , right . Yeah , oh yeah , so you probably have some quite lengthy travel , right .

Virgo

Yeah , sometimes , yeah , it could be an hour , depending on where you're going , you know , and yeah , I feel like too . It happens when the train is very wobbly and if it's going really like fast . Sometimes that happens . Mostly I just like to take the train , even , you know , I know some people may know like , oh , in New York train , yeah , I'd love to .

I feel like when you live somewhere you're annoyed , but then when you move somewhere else and then like it's , it's a total different atmosphere , it's different .

Jen

Yeah , and you see , you know , I live on the west coast so I've never experienced anything like that , but when we move we live over near the ocean .

Now I'm kind of in between Seattle and Portland and I found out that there's a train where you can get it for like I don't know 40 bucks and take take a trip up to Seattle if I want to and I mean I haven't been there forever and I don't know if I really want to , but I used to love to go with the kids , because we have three kids and and so

whenever little we love to do that . And so my husband , I was like no , that would be kind of fun , maybe we need to take a train ride .

Well then my son , who lives over in Oregon a couple hours south of us , he was like oh yeah , I found I can take a train and go back to the other side of the state for to visit the rest of the family and it's super cheap . And he's like I kind of want to do that .

It's cheaper than gas and I want to try the train and it's a good experience too .

Virgo

Listen to the open to that .

Jen

But , girl , that sounds beautiful that you live next to the water yeah , I'm actually only an hour from Astoria , nice , so Goonies vibes over there . All right , I feel like I could go down all these rabbit trails so easy .

Virgo

You've got to keep me like on on top of things , because I think I've only made it through four questions .

Jen

All right . So tips and encouragement what kind of advice , or even mindset tips , would you want to share about your journey and what you recommend to people ?

Virgo

I would say definitely keep those who are going to support you and show you love in your life . You know , sometimes friends become family and you know , you know I feel like being empathetic to people is really , it's really uh , it's , it's crucial and I feel like once you have that in your life and definitely on a journey like this , you need that .

You know , definitely , be yourself , be true to yourself . Um , be very patient . You have to always

Mental Health and Overcoming Challenges

remind yourself . You know mental health is important and I think sometimes we all get lost in the , you know , aspect of like worrying about . You know , comparison comparison is is the worst thing you can ever do .

Um , just know that you are strong , you are beautiful , just the way you are , and you can definitely overcome the hurdles that are coming into your life . You know , in life you have the bad and the good . We cannot just have good .

You know we're gonna have both and I think sometimes we have to learn to just , you know , tell , tell ourselves that everything's gonna be okay . Sometimes , you know , things happen for a reason . Everything happens for a reason and it's not because you're a bad person or you know you deserve to go through something that's going on right now or went on before .

That you know you did not like , you know , and I tend , listen , I , I had to learn that for myself too .

You know this is I give advice based on my experience that I went through too , so I can definitely relate that I've been there where , you know , I was so down the thumb's , like but , and then I ended up like , listen , why am I doing this to myself ? It's only making things worse .

You tend to realize , you know , but I like to definitely give people that advice now so they don't even have to like get to that point , because it can be definitely , you know , exhausting a dream . So , but yeah , always be yourself be true to yourself .

You've got this and you know , with , with strength , you know , I mean with pain comes strength , and I think we all have to just remind ourselves here and there definitely .

Jen

I think that's something really important for everyone to remember and you know , as much as what we're going through sucks , it's making us who we are and I think , as much as I hate it , I wouldn't change the thing . I wouldn't change anything because it's made me the more compassionate person that I am and I love myself better for it yes , I can't .

Virgo

I can't agree anymore like yes , girl , it's , it's . It's crazy how life works , isn't it ?

Jen

it is crazy because don't get me wrong , I don't know about you , but on a really bad like pity party day , I'm like , why me ? Yeah , but the rest of time I'm like , no , it's me who I am and I'm better for others . I'm better for serving others because of what I've gone through right , right .

Virgo

Yes , I totally a thousand percent agree so okay .

Jen

So staying positive . How do you maintain a positive outlook despite your challenges ?

Virgo

so I , you know , have the people who support me , you know who are friends and who became family , which I . I love you guys so much . Um , you know how my fiance he's been there to support me since the beginning of this , like you know . And affirmations , meditation , positive energy , just constant reminder .

I noticed for me that that's what helps me , you know , and reminding yourself you're why , you know , I like to write down why I do things and why I mean so much to me , and a lot of books that come around the whole mental health aspect too , that will help , and I feel like once you uh tend to see what's bothering you and like reflect on everything , you

will tend to be like , okay , this is what I have to go towards to help me . You know , I feel like you only know yourself and I know myself . So this is why I'm speaking upon , like I know me .

I need to do affirmations , I need to remind myself , I need to like go back um through my old videos and be like , just so that this is why you do what you do , look , look what you have achieved . So if that's gonna help someone else to do that , you know , in May , in May , but everyone is different and everybody's story is different .

So I would say like if affirmations gonna help , it's gonna help , if working out is gonna help , you know , a lot of things can be very therapeutic and that is definitely a part of your healing process absolutely .

Jen

Oh my gosh , I feel like I've known you forever . Same , same , some people I don't know what it is , but you just meet those people and it's like , oh , wow , it's like you're reading my brain . How do you , um , how do you strive to live your best life ?

I mean , I feel like you're telling us , but I mean , besides what you told us , I feel like I feel like , since I was young , I already knew , um , even before .

Virgo

Like going through the health situation , like when it got worse in 2016 , I feel like when I was young , I knew I was gonna be something . I knew I had a story to tell , I was very determined and , uh , and I just knew and I feel like I guess now , going through this , it's clear and I feel like that's why I fight for it even more .

And you know how do I strive and keep going . I have to just be consistent . It's a fight , but I try my best to do that for myself , because I know what makes me happy and what fulfills my soul and you know , sometimes you got to do what's right for yourself .

It's , you know , it's your healing process and you have to learn what works good for you and I feel like that's what . That's the thing that helps me and keep going Seeing other people , too , like you and Danny , make it count for Danny and chronic for you , and another day we're RA and , you know , move to live and another girl that I know , rika .

They all go through the same thing and to see them . You know when you see other people go through the same thing and they're pushing and they're happy and they're healing on their journey , like it definitely inspires you too as well . So I feel like it's it's an aspect of many things that helps me continue to strive and to do what I want to do .

And you know , thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to speak and to give you know the world a piece of jisinda , a piece of Virgo beauty , because this has been something that I've been wanting to do forever , but I just haven't had the strength to do it . And you know , everything happens for a reason . Everything happens for a reason .

Jen

Well , I feel so honored that you wanted to be part of this , and I am just thankful that you wanted to share your voice , very thankful . So who or what lifts your spirits on your most difficult days ?

Virgo

I would say my fiance and definitely my community , with my friends and people who come to my , the dance community that I provided . You know , definitely everyone who shows me love on you know , my TikTok , my Facebook , my Instagram , and it's really amazing because a lot of these people are my friends and they truly showed out .

And when I started this journey of you know the Virgo beauty , when I started taking it seriously and doing classes , they literally they've been there and it helps me a lot because of the fact that I want this so bad , you know , and when you're so passionate about something , the universe serves you with what you deserve .

And since the universe has been so , so good to me and you know everyone who is in that community , you know giving me all this love , like I just want to thank them , but also like that really helps me . It really does help you with , you know , a lot of support and that positive energy .

You just feed off of it and I feel like you know , without them , I wouldn't be who I am , I wouldn't be doing Virgo beauty , I wouldn't be the person who I'm . You know who I am every day to be doing this and just getting better and better . It's because of them .

Jen

I agree with you so much . You know we all go through a hard , hard day and I love that . On a hard , hard day , all we have to do is turn on one of our social media platforms and there's a whole community there to make us laugh , to talk with us .

You know we've I've had voice memos back and forth with people , video chats , text messages and the encouragement that everyone is willing to share . It's amazing and it is truly what helps so many of us keep going .

Virgo

Yeah , and you'll be surprised too , with what people have to say to you . You know same thing with what you're saying , that you , you know , have these relationships with people like it happens , you know , like with me doing this as like a business , yeah , but I love that .

I get to actually have relationships and friendships with these people and actually communicate and relate , and you know it's amazing what you can do for an individual . You know who's going through the same thing as you or who not . You know I feel like love and spreading that and spreading that positive energy can help someone in a million of ways .

Jen

Definitely , definitely . And I think you know , yeah , even if someone has a business or a podcast or whatever it is , a foundation , those come second to the relationships right . Relationships come first because , for one thing , you can have a business without relationships right .

Because eventually people are like , well , you're not paying , you know , you don't pay attention , you don't listen to what we're saying . Eventually people kind of walk away , right right .

And I mean , unless you're like some like I feel like I'm butchering how I'm describing this but unless , like you're a famous clothing brand or makeup or something you know , if I was just a podcast , if I was not communicating with people , eventually they'd be like , yeah , you don't care about us , you say you're serving . I figure not .

Being True to Yourself

Virgo

Right . So this is why I definitely say , like , be true to you , you know , you , I mean , this is how I am . I'm very empathetic , like , I love to sit with people , I love to relate and I love to understand them and help them out through that journey . People , people need that , you know .

Like , you can't just like , do what you do and then be like all right , goodbye , like , and that's it . Like you know , sometimes we bring out the best in those when we relate with them , when we show that vulnerable side of us . You know what I mean and this is why I love to share my story now .

Maybe not before , but I'm learning , you know , and before I was so scared , but now it's like it's such a blessing . It was a blessing in disguise , for real . You know , sometimes we get too much in our head and we have to just be true to ourselves .

And once I learned that I was like you know what this is going to happen and I need to do this in order to help other people and it's going to help me in the long run as well .

Jen

Oh yeah , 100% . You never know how much is going to fill your own cup . Serving others will fill your cup more than doing anything else . Really , you totally agree , yes , okay . So my next question for you is can you recommend apps and it could be three , it could be however many you want , but I wrote three .

So can you recommend three accounts , articles , blogs , websites , anything like just resources that you love , that you want to share with people ?

Virgo

Sure . So on Facebook there's a lot of like group pages so I type to those for my stills disease condition and for RA . So if you guys are interested , you know you can go to that . All you have to do is go on Facebook and I you go to the groups or like the search bar and you can type in any type of group that you would like to join .

There's like a whole community of people in there that you can communicate with Instagram . I talked to Danny , which is make account for Danny . She , oh my God , she's a wonderful person . God bless her beautiful soul .

She has literally helped me so much I cannot express like , and she was actually the start of the beginning of me to have confidence in myself and to speak out . She's a huge inspiration for me . So shout out to make account for Danny . She's on Instagram .

She could find her at make account , the number four , danny , and then obviously you , grace , grace Booth , dan . Thank you , I've been watching you for a minute . You know and you are . I love your soul . God bless you as well . Like what you're doing for real . You are amazing and keep doing it because you really don't know .

Listen , everybody's watching and you really don't know how many people are watching and how many people are not going to comment , but it's you know . It's worth doing what you're doing with your content because it's going to help them anyway regardless . So really keep doing what you're doing . You really don't know who you're touching . I have another person .

Her name is Allie and her Instagram is another day with RA . She's amazing as well . Yes , I speak to her two times at a time . She's amazing . I love her content . She's so freaking funny . I'm like , yes , girl , you like , oh , my God , it helps . Like , if I need to laugh , I definitely go straight to her page .

I'm like , listen , I got to have a laugh .

Jen

Oh yeah , I mean , if you want someone to inspire , you go to Danny . If you want someone to make you , laugh go to Allie . I mean in a heartbeat .

Virgo

Definitely yeah . And then , lastly , there's one more Move to Live . I love her content as well , yes .

Jen

She's amazing .

Virgo

Oh my gosh .

Jen

Yeah , you named all my favorites , by the way . I mean , if our listeners haven't checked them out , I will be shocked , but I'm pretty sure I follow every single one of them on TikTok as well . I'm like TikTok stupid or something . I don't enjoy it . I'm not good at it . I'm better on Instagram .

Virgo

Yeah , same , I'm just getting the gist of it .

Jen

Now , like recently , yeah , I even started a MySpoonySisters TikTok and , like I said , I'm TikTok stupid , so I actually have . I don't know if you are familiar with Linnea , but she's been a guest on here before too and she's one of our Spoonie sisters . She is helping me with the Spoonie sister TikTok because she's good .

Virgo

She's good . Good that you have that support . Yeah absolutely .

Jen

I mean , it's so much fun and I love pulling people in and sharing their talents , because I mean , myspoonysisters is not about me , it's about our entire community , and so if anyone ever wants to have a written something on the blog , let me know . If you want to be a guest , reach out to me .

If you would like to participate in it , one of our Spoon Tosses do that too , because , like , this is not about just me , it's about all of us . Yes , girl , good , everybody get in on it Listen yes , yeah , and I'm telling you right now , just in that I'm getting you in on a Spoon Toss like ASAP .

Virgo

Yeah , I saw it when , right before I got on this , I saw that you posted .

Jen

What .

Virgo

Yeah , there's you . Hello you there . Oh , I'm so sorry , I don't even know what happened with my head . I'm like , what's going on ? Um , I'm just going to continue talking . Okay , I can hear you . Um , so , yeah , right before I joined this like coming into the talk I was I saw that you posted something about spoon .

I was like , oh , let me save it because I'm going to look at what this is later on . I'm interested . But definitely , yeah , listen , if you need me for anything , let me know . Oh , yeah , definitely I'm here to you know , support , I'll be more than happy girl . I love what you do . I definitely support it and everyone guys who are listening , follow her .

Get into her . She's amazing , amazing . Comment show love . We need to all show love . That is what we need to do . We need more of that .

Jen

Absolutely 100% . I definitely agree . I mean not about me , but I mean about the support About each other . Yes , but I mean . Yeah , I mean , if people want to join into my goofy stuff , reach out to me . If you want some happy mail or some stickers , reach out to me . Um , I got some freebies plus .

I also have an SC where I sell some of the stickers too .

Virgo

Yes , I saw .

Jen

Yeah , yeah , okay . Enough about me . We keep going back to that . We are not talking about me , we are talking about you , okay . So is there any last bit of advice that you would like to give to your fellow family sisters ? They're going through something similar .

Virgo

I would say be patient . You are special , but not special in a bad way . You know , special in a good way . You have a story to tell and , as scary , as nervous as you may feel , and you know , share it and it could be the best thing you ever did in your life , meaning you're going to help other people .

You know , and just be yourself , be true to yourself , be patient , always , always . Self love Like that is very important , like I would everything . Basically what I was saying before , you know it really comes back to that and I learned that you really have to value every downfall you're going through , but also every blessing that you're going through .

Everything happens for a reason and I feel the more time that you spend in the dumps because you know we all been there and I'm not saying like I'm perfect and like when I go through the downfalls and I'm like all right , I'm picking myself up easily no , it's , it's not , it's not easy .

I , I went through it , I'm , you know , we all go through it , but I feel like there's a like what you were saying before , that there's a time to like snap out of it and be like all right , let me keep moving forward , you know .

So just always remember that when you get in your dumps , like , do something that will make your soul fulfilled , whether it's healing and affirmations , or you have to do some self-love , talk and read a book and watch something that makes you happy and like , even if you have to cry and let it out , that is also a form of healing girl .

So my beauty is definitely do that , like , do that because it's going to help , but definitely be you , be true to you , share your story and you got this . We all got this .

Jen

Yes , yes , yes , yes , yes . I could not agree with you anymore . I just couldn't the emoji clapping hands . I know , I know I'm like woohoo , I love it . Okay , is there anything that you can think of that we have not had you share about ? Is there anything at all that you feel is important ?

Virgo

I think you actually covered everything . I have everything here and I'm like okay , we kind of went through all of it . The only thing was like where to find me on social media and that's really it Everything we like I checked out , like , yeah , we did everything Okay .

Jen

So hard because , you know , we try to keep the podcast episodes from being too long , but I just feel like so many people have so much to share , right , and that's why , honestly , I end up bringing people back on multiple times , because either people want updates , or maybe we just want to talk more about other topics , or I don't know .

Virgo

Oh , I mean , yeah , I mean in the future . If you would like to have me again , just definitely let me know . To let you know I have a I'm supposed to have like a video interview going on with like some type of organization . We could talk you know further about this and other time , but that's supposed to happen .

So I mean that's related to like the chronic condition too . So if you would like to do like update within months from now or something definitely , definitely hit me up . Like I'm definitely here if you need you know anything , absolutely .

Jen

Yeah , yeah , absolutely . And I know that people like to hear updates , and you know , and they also just love to hear more . So , right , right , and I could talk . Yes , I think we both can . Okay , so where can people find and follow you ?

Virgo

Okay , so on Instagram , my Instagram handle is Virgo Beauty XO , and all of that is together . You can also find me on TikTok at Virgo Beauty XO , and that's together as well . You can find me on Facebook and YouTube at Virgo Beauty , so Virgo Space Beauty , okay .

And then I have my website where you can go to wwwdancewithvirgocom , and I also have an Instagram that is my business for Dance with Virgo as well , so you can go to Instagram and you can type in Dance with Virgo , and that's my other page too , as well .

Jen

Love it , love it , and I'll definitely have you send me over the link so I can link them in for everyone in the show notes . Oh my gosh , thank you so much for joining . This has been such a pleasure and an honor . I'm so glad you came .

Virgo

Thank you , I'm so happy that you gave me this opportunity , thank you . Thank you , I'm sending you some virtual hugs .

Jen

Thank you and listeners until next time . Don't forget your spoon .

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