Content note: we talk body parts, and sex
S1E9: ‘Thrushdate’ (Vol.2, 1981)
SPEAKERS
NARRATOR, DENNIS the handyman, LILY (the daughter), JENNY (the mother)
JENNY 00:00
This episode contains explicit language and is not suitable for younger audiences. We also talk about body parts and sex
LILY 00:22
usually we walk around the Tan but she just started back in the office yesterday and is like completely wiped. So she asked if it was okay if I came down more her way so I went to Central Park and oh,
JENNY 00:34
yeah, I know Central Park very well, ______ is around the corner. So that was the place of many a like, sports try outs
LILY 00:46
Sure. Yeah.
JENNY 00:47
For aths. And training spot.
LILY 00:50
So but um, yeah, we just went for a walk and we always go for a nice big long walk. We did about eight Ks.
JENNY 00:56
Oh, yeah. How long does that take?
LILY 00:58
Was like an hour and a half. You know, moving quickly.
JENNY 01:01
Yeah she's got a good pace on her hasn't
LILY 01:03
she does, she's the only other person who like walks and she says that I'm only like, really, the only other person she likes to go for a walk with. Everyone else is too slow.
JENNY 01:12
Cause I find you fast when we're together.
LILY 01:15
Yeah. _____'s even faster. Like I'm at my fastest with _______. We're walking in the way that we probably should be walking. Trying to do exercise. So yes, at a good pace. So yeah, it was good. And I just got a little just a chai and drove to Chemist Warehouse. Got some thrush stuff.
JENNY 01:37
The pessary or the insert?
LILY 01:39
It's the thing that pushes the cream up. It's not a pessary-
JENNY 01:45
So you put the cream into the tube and then and then injects?
LILY 01:48
Yeah. Yes. With the cream. And so I went to the pharmacist, and there is an over-the-counter pill you can take so I don't know why I had to get a prescription. Like, I don't know
JENNY 01:59
No you don't have to get a script,
LILY 02:00
but I wonder if maybe strength wise, is that a low dosage or something? But I don't know. It's thrush these days. Like I'm over the UTIs whatever, into thrush territory.
JENNY 02:12
[laughter]
LILY 02:12
I don't know what's going on. And me and ________ were researching last night. And
JENNY 02:22
that's romantic.
LILY 02:23
I know. Yeah. Exactly.
JENNY 02:26
some couple's thrush research
LILY 02:27
A little like hang out. Anyways, so yeah, so there's like a lot that can like make it not good, and it's stuff that I've been doing, you know what I mean? They're like: avoid hot baths, or avoid this or avoid that. It's like I don't know what's changed though. Cause like, I've never had an issue with thrush really ever unless, you know, maybe once a year in summer, sitting in wet bathers and I get a little bit and I just have the cream and it would clear right up.
JENNY 03:00
Have you had this much sexual intercourse though, over this type of period.
LILY 03:07
Maybe not. And I do know, it did say that, you know, not being lubricated enough can trigger it, but that's not a huge problem for us. So I don't know, maybe there's just been a couple of times lately where penetration has happened maybe a bit too early. And then it's, but it's not, I don't know, it's not painful. Unless maybe there's that I also just do think that different dicks have different flora and fauna and for whatever reason ______'s is like
JENNY 03:36
allergic... high allergen
LILY 03:40
or just like he's maybe he's a yeasty person and so you know then there's just too much yeast or ... ______ was definitely UTI dick. ______ thrush tick. I don't know.
JENNY 03:52
Let's blame the dicks.
LILY 03:53
Yeah, I'm blaming them and apparently ______ was saying as well. He found the thing that was saying that like, it can often it can live in your bowels. So like
JENNY 04:05
yes it can
LILY 04:05
so that could be a thing.
JENNY 04:07
But you're not doing transfer between bottom and-
LILY 04:11
no and I'm very very careful even with fingers and things like that.
JENNY 04:16
You got to be careful
LILY 04:16
Yeah hundy percent. BUT and I did wonder this with the UTI, sometimes guys when they going in they get a bit confused. Right? And they're not really sure you know and so sometimes there's a bit of a push and then you know, you correct it
JENNY 04:31
Yeah.
LILY 04:32
And so I'm like maybe that?
JENNY 04:33
Yeah maybe just a bit of even just around the opening there's there's gonna be maybe
LILY 04:38
stuff
JENNY 04:38
stuff that doesn't belong in the vaginal tract.
LILY 04:42
It really, having those two holes close to each other really fucks us, is all I'm gonna say. It doesn't make a lot of sense. You know, if everyone's all like 'intelligent design' it's not intelligent, our designs of our bodies ,I'll say that much. Like it's just not, it's so many things can kill you especially as a woman. Just because things are placed in certain areas or like, you know, you got a short-
JENNY 05:04
What would you move? Would you move the vagina or the anus?
LILY 05:07
I'd move the vagina I reckoon
JENNY 05:08
And where would you put it?
LILY 05:09
I would put [laughter] I would
JENNY 05:12
Just below the belly button
LILY 05:14
I'd shift everything up. So like, so you have the clit. And the opening, like kind of, you know, where your vulva is, I'd have it front on like that, I reckon.
JENNY 05:27
Right. So a similar position to maybe where a penis sits on the body.
LILY 05:32
Yeah, which outward facing and you could just, and then you could see it. And I think that would change a lot for women. In terms of our bodies. Then you would just be able to [psssssht] I don't know. There wouldn't be this kind of that, it'd be like that. And then the clit would be more stimulated by sex I reckon
JENNY 05:50
Yeah. I was watching this. Have you heard about this program on Netflix called Sex/ Life? Everyone's talking about?
LILY 05:57
You were telling me about it. {laughter] Everyone's talking about it? Everyone? 'You to me, twice'!! Everyone's talking!!! [Laughter] I haven't heard it from anyone else!
JENNY 06:06
Haven't you? That's funny, because I saw, I saw I've seen I have seen other people talking. It's not just me. I've seen at least one other person.
LILY 06:16
Right
JENNY 06:16
There's a scene in it. And the sex is quite. It's quite graphic. Like someone, I saw a review saying, yeah, it's it's more than Bridgerton even. But it's, it's very modern, in that way that Bridgerton was period graphic sex, on the staircase
LILY 06:36
Yeah. And also super, like, you know
JENNY 06:40
Romantic
LILY 06:41
You know, but it's still very kind of, you know, they had sex the first time and she just came from penetration.
JENNY 06:50
So it's very erogenous. Whereas this, and this is very kind of hard, more sexual sex, if you know what I mean. Whereas Bridgerton was maybe it was quite, it was quite graphic, but it was romanticised and it was erogenous, or sensuous is probably the word I'm trying to think of. Anyway, there's this scene in it. And I don't know if you're gonna watch it, but
LILY 07:13
Maybe I'll check it out. I don't really watch stuff so much these days, whcich is just wild.
JENNY 07:18
Well I had a break, but then I kind of watched this. It's eight, eight episodes. It's kind of interesting. It's kind of shitty. I mean, parts of it. Parts of the dialogue and the acting are just so bad. I think
LILY 07:30
Right. Really?
JENNY 07:31
But I guess the premise, the setup and the situation is is kind of compelling enough to make you go with it. But there's sex scenes, like all the time, any excuse for a sex scene. It's like they're shoehorning them in. And even-
LILY 07:45
They're like: You know what sells?SEXex. So we're just, that's what we're doing. And then we got loose storyline between
JENNY 07:52
Yeah, yeah. So the sex part is like everything and the life part, although I will say that life part, it's an interesting representation of a married woman, a mother 10 years after this wild affair with this super sex god, he's actually an Australian actor
LILY 08:13
Oh, really? Yeah. They often farm out to us for the sexy man. It's quite interesting. Cause I wouldn't say Australian men are particularly- attractive
JENNY 08:21
True. No, but for the Americans. I think they're going off over there. But I've even videoed, because he can't walk. He just can't walk. It's like any time he walks on screen, he's thinking about walking. Can't do it. Is that a Seinfeld? What is it? There's something where someone can't walk? And they're like, I forgotten how to walk. Or maybe it's friends. No. Is it ringing a bell with you know someone going I forgotten how to walk and they just can't. Oh, maybe it's 30 Rock?
LILY 08:52
Oh, 30 Rock? That sounds like a weird thing that they would do
JENNY 08:57
No no. Yeah, it is. But you know whether it is that when Jack Donohey is
LILY 09:03
the advert? Yeah yeah
JENNY 09:06
And he's hopeless. He's doing, I've forgotten how to walk
LILY 09:09
Yeah, yeah.
JENNY 09:10
That's what it is. So this guy, it's almost like he's a terrible walker anyway, or is really self conscious. But I'll send you the videos that I did. Of him walking, is kind of [uh, uh] like this. But anyway, there is scene. This is connected to what we were talking about the positioning of the clitoris and the-
LILY 09:30
That's okay. Tangents don't have to make sense, just go with it
JENNY 09:35
So he does this position on her that has, oh it's called grinding the wheat, grinding the pestle and mortar, Grinding the...
LILY 09:44
Grinding the pussy
JENNY 09:46
[laughter] but they don't call it that. It's some sort of Tantric name. Grinding the wheat maybe but anyway, so he's like: Trust, trust. She's like, What are you doing? He's like, he's like: Trust me. And it's face to face missionary but he kind of puts himself up on his arms so that his penis presumably it changes angle. And so when he's entering her it's kind of it's
LILY 10:11
ah, angled backwards
JENNY 10:12
from above was angled backwards instead of angled forwards. And so when he
LILY 10:17
which is almost kind of what if you were flipped? And the woman's on top? Yeah, it kind of angles back, you know what I mean?
JENNY 10:26
Well, reverse cow girl?
LILY 10:28
No, no, no
JENNY 10:29
[laughter]
LILY 10:29
even if you're on top facing each other, like the, a dick naturally kind of has, is that-
JENNY 10:38
Yeah, but I think if you're on top
LILY 10:40
it's gonna go forward?
JENNY 10:43
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but anyway, this one's even more so and he's like: Trust me. And he does that and she's just screaming. So anyway, that's interesting so that obviously there are positions, but it would be easier if you were just like Lego pieces and you could just stick together, front-on
LILY 11:01
Literally. What you'd have to get, yeah, just front on. You'd only have to deal with maybe a height difference so you just get a little stepladder or like a box to stand on. And then you're just tch-
JENNY 11:11
and standing up sex would be easier, much easier. Everything would be probably easier
LILY 11:16
Peeing probably you could probably get a bit more of a stream
JENNY 11:20
No it would trickle down, trickle down. So maybe that's why it's located where it is.
LILY 11:26
Yeah, or it's just one of those things with evolution. It's like it wasn't evolutionary, enough of an imperative for our vagina to move
JENNY 11:36
Up our body
LILY 11:37
upwards because enough people were getting born and surviving and living, you know, as it is, but
JENNY 11:44
And orgasms aren't necessary for conception
LILY 11:47
No, which is just kind of interesting that we have them. I think in some ways, it's, it might have come around from like a social thing. You know what I mean?
JENNY 11:58
No, I don't think so. [laughter] Sorry. To be so abrupt and forceful. I think it's because when a when an embryo is developing, yeah, then it can either go to — depending on the chromosomes it's received — it can either go to the biological, like a male body or a female body, typically female body male body, it can go either way. And what becomes the penis is the clitoris. Like it will either become a clitoris or a penis. And the testicles either become testicles or internally, ovaries.
LILY 12:41
So you think the clit is just a leftover or like it's almost it's the beginning of the penis, which is why we have it
JENNY 12:47
Well it's sort of the equivalent of, it's it's a what could have been a penis and a penis is what could have been a clitoris.
LILY 12:55
Yeah but you're saying the reason that we have that is because every clitoris could have been a penis, it's important for the penis to feel pleasure, because that's why men have sex
JENNY 13:03
To become erect, and all that sort of stuff. And you need the pleasure, I guess to have that erectile tissue activate.
LILY 13:12
Interesting. But I do. But I do wonder, like orgasm, especially for women is like super bonding to whatever male that is, you know. Tends to be. So do you wonder what the kind of the social element or like, as in women who had more sensitive clitorises or larger or were able to come easier? You know, maybe 1000, 2000 years ago? Probably would be *much* longer. {laughter] Yeah, humans haven't been evolutionarily really developing in that time. But yeah, however, you know, would have been like, majority of woman could but didn't really orgasm, and the ones that did more survived more, because maybe they were more bonded to their men and therefore, kind of stayed with them more in terms of that. Yeah, that family unit? You know, I don't know.
JENNY 13:57
I think there are theories about orgasm and conception, but I can't remember what they are.
LILY 14:03
I've read and I've also, anecdotally, so like, when you orgasm, your- everything contracts. And it pulls it up, I think
JENNY 14:13
Yeah. Right.
LILY 14:14
I don't know, I could be wrong. And I could be making it up. We don't, you know, we don't know what we're talking about. We're not scientists, I'm sure people will let us know!
JENNY 14:22
We'll put it in the show notes, because, yeah, that's right. I mean, anything we talk about: Do not take us as experts and in fact-
LILY 14:30
Or that we kind of really, yeah, even have thought about this more than in this very moment. You know?
JENNY 14:35
Yeah
LILY 14:37
We're just talking, you know?
JENNY 14:39
I know last time all the time before we were talking about metric, the metric system when that came in, when it changed from pounds and pence to dollars and cents. And, and I said very authoritatively: 1966. And then I looked it up and I don't think it was 1966. So that sort of thing.
LILY 14:56
Yeah, yeah. Don't listen to this if you're gonna get annoyed by us being wrong [laughter]
JENNY 15:03
Our inaccuracies [laughter] and our bullshitting
LILY 15:05
we're here for the you know, for the broad strokes not the-
JENNY 15:07
We are here for the broad strokes.
LILY 15:11
Anyway, but yeah, it was- fine, anyway, so thrush wise, I just think hopefully this chills out, but they were like if symptoms don't go away in four days, and if this is the second time in a month, you should go and see a doctor so I'm-
JENNY 15:33
stop having sex with that penis. Find another one,
LILY 15:38
find another one. It's just very annoying. I was like, I feel like I should be growing out of these kind of things, not starting new ones. And it just is like, just makes me irritable and irritable with my body and it doesn't make me want to have sex. It doesn't mean
JENNY 15:55
Look, it's also a good test for _______'s sort of stamina. And [laughter] trying to see trying to see the silver lining on it.
LILY 16:05
Oh, yeah, it's a good test to see if he's a dick. He's gonna get mad if he doesn't have sex,
JENNY 16:10
Yeah.
LILY 16:13
It's so funny that's just um, yeah, in no way would he ever?
JENNY 16:17
Yeah, well, that's good.
LILY 16:18
Yeah.
JENNY 16:19
But I, I do think you will grow out of it. But it's interesting that the UTIs were a thing and now it's thrush. Whereas for me, it was always, it was thrush Well not all the way through. But with my first boyfriend, lots of thrush ahead. [laughter]
LILY 16:28
All the way through? [laughter] This won't be the last thrush conversation. It just becomes a thrush podcast. Sorry [laughter] it's a thrushcast. It's all we're talking about!
JENNY 16:45
Yeah, just
LILY 16:48
Yeah
JENNY 16:49
Push everything to the side. And we just focus on thrush
LILY 16:51
the focus. Yeah, look, I think we'd have a lot to talk about, we can get people on. They can tell us about thrush, we can learn. We can get some experts, we can get some personal experiences. I don't know. Interesting. I think yeah, I'm gonna just really try to, I think is well, because UTIs have been so chill there's been a couple of times when there's been penetration, but he hasn't like, come in me. And so I kind of haven't peed after, or, like straightaway, so I'm wondering if that also impacts thrush
JENNY 17:20
Yeah I think it does
LILY 17:21
Or there's also been times — TMI — but like being very wet down there, very turned on, and then we finish having sex and I've kind of just like put my undies on. I just think that maybe I need to.
JENNY 17:32
Yeah, yeah.
LILY 17:33
Do a little rinse.
JENNY 17:37
The balance is very, it's very specific and unique. The flora and fauna? Or maybe it's just flora, maybe there's no fauna. I think it's just flora.
LILY 17:47
Fauna means animals right?
JENNY 17:48
Yeah.
LILY 17:49
Little vagina deer out in the pasture. [Laughter] Yeah, yeah.
JENNY 17:54
Frolicking
LILY 17:55
Just flora. Yeah, having fun.
JENNY 17:58
And yeah, balance can really, I mean, if you think the balance can sort of go out of whack with synthetic underpants, then imagine-
LILY 18:04
Yeah, so imagine you're gonna be with a penis. Introduced- into the natural environs [laughter]
JENNY 18:13
Somebody, yeah a whole other person going in?
LILY 18:15
And they're, they're kind of pH makeup and everything as well. I think. Yeah, definitely. And I think as well with like,
JENNY 18:22
And it can be soap, it can even be soap stuff.
JENNY 18:44
But anyway
LILY 18:45
I don't know we'll figure it out
JENNY 18:46
People can email us.
LILY 18:48
Yeah. But um, yeah, and especially I feel like I don't know, alcohol as well. So that's already probably destroying whatever good flora for I have in my body.
JENNY 19:00
Yeah, we're talking about all these probably less likely things and the most likely thing will be you know, a lot of a lot of wine. You know, beer. Yeah, not peeing after or before and after sex. Like, didn't you say you were also trying to pee before?
LILY 19:17
Yeah, trying to pee before. Yeah, I still do that. That's also just because sometimes, like it's just can be quite...
JENNY 19:23
Yeah. You want your bladder to be
LILY 19:25
Yeah, you know, there's like a lot of pressure going on. Just like you don't want to also feel like you're needing to pee and you're trying to like, you know. So I tend to just do that anyway. But yeah, definitely try the peeing after and just yeah, being a bit more conscientious, that kind of stuff. And it's just a bit frustrating.
JENNY 19:42
For sure. I'm sorry about that. That's annoying. Yoghurt helps.
LILY 19:49
Yeah, just had some yoghurt and apples
JENNY 19:50
Have you tried a tampon with yoghurt. Have you ever tried that?
LILY 19:53
Yes, I have done that. It does. I think I think it's one of those things that helps soothe symptoms but it doesn't clear it up for you?
JENNY 19:59
For the itchiness in addition to the other stuff
LILY 20:03
okay, all right, yeah, we'll say, you know, stay tuned to find out part two of Lily's Thrush Journey
JENNY 20:10
for the ongoing.
LILY 20:12
Yeah, I'll bring our listeners, you know, all of my findings.
JENNY 20:18
Yeah. And there'll be people out there listening who are like, Oh, wow.
LILY 20:22
[Laughter] I never knew other people got thrush!!
JENNY 20:27
No, that you know, here we are talking about it. It's good to talk about these things.
LILY 20:32
I think so definitely. And it's just something that I think people don't actually also think about how much it can continually affect you. Like, it's ongoing. And right up until, you know, to me thrush is something you get as a kid or as you know, like,
JENNY 20:41
Really? No
LILY 20:48
Well, because, you know, that was my perspective. And I know that's not true. But just like, I think it's very easy to be like, Oh, you can be thrushy when you're like a teenager or something. But not at 25. But you know, here we are. Yeah. Shall we segue?
JENNY 21:04
Yep. All right. So we finished off. With oh that's right, the friend arrived from Hong Kong, and the plane was wrong. And then I had an up all night talking and laughing and then finally went to sleep. So 27th of January 1981. Tuesday, only four more days, and then 1/12 of 1981 is over. This year shall pass so quickly, I'm sure. Today I spent my time taking Bon to the vet. So Bon was our Cocker Spaniel, black.
LILY 21:45
And you said the other day that that was short for what was it?
JENNY 21:49
Ebony
LILY 21:50
Really interesting. I've never heard that before.
JENNY 21:53
Never heard of Ebony?
LILY 21:54
No, like of Bon to be short for Ebony.
JENNY 21:58
Well, you think about it E-Bon
LILY 22:00
it makes sense. Yeah. But I always thought it for like Bonnie, I assumed her name Bonni
JENNY 22:04
We called her Bonnie as well. But anyway, yeah, no. Taking Bon to the vet to get spayed. Reading Antony and Cleopatra notes, and Pride and Prejudice and Great Expectations, doing questions on the latter. Sorting through this year, schoolbooks ,getting finances into order, all ready to bill dad. Tomorrow, I'm going to do some work for him (and me!) Bonnie is lying on the couch like a drugged animal. Well, she is really! _______'s getting all excited about going to school. So she's going into year seven. And I must admit it will be different having a sister at school. Thrills, spills and chills for dills. I'm still wondering / worrying what I'm going to do with myself after this final year at school. I've decided that if I decide definitely during the next year, what I'd like to do at university, then I won't defer if I get a place. So I think I'm planning to take a year off. I'll go straight on and do the degree 1982. If however, I'm undecided, and I do get a place, I'll defer and work and think about my future. Possibly I'll travel. I'd love to so much, all in capitals. If however, I don't get a place at uni, I'll work for dad at some big computer firm oh no I'll work for dad or some big computer firm that he said he could get me into, lots of places he said. Oh contacts. Interesting that I, that could have been my pathway, imagine.
LILY 23:43
Yeah, imagine
JENNY 23:44
not going to uni, going and working at a big computer firm. Getting in on the ground floor.
LILY 23:50
But you probably would have worked your way up. You could have been like, you know 1980s management, Boss Lady. Yeah,
JENNY 23:57
yeah. Yeah. With a two-piece you know, skirt suit.
LILY 24:00
Yeah. Exactly. Panty hose. You know, the whole thing would have been interesting. Yeah.
JENNY 24:08
And a flicky fringe. Very flicky fringe.
LILY 24:12
I see that. Yeah. Like, ______'s dad didn't go to uni and worked for IBM. He's a bit older than you but like, yeah, yeah, worked his way up and then quit. But um, yeah, it's very interesting. So yeah, yeah. Taking a gap year. Remember when we went and had that appointment with like, the careers counsellor at school. I was like, I'm gonna take five years and not go to university. I'm just gonna travel and she was just like, so concerned. And was kind of looking at you like, oh, you know,
JENNY 24:48
to talk some sense
LILY 24:49
Yeah to deal with. And you were like: If that's what she wants to do. [Laughter]
JENNY 24:53
Oh, my God, so indulging [laughter]
LILY 24:56
but also like, you know, you're an adult. What are you? Yeah I didn't, I went straight on and I did uni and I completed my degree in four years. But like, yeah, you have to let people kind of entertain the different thoughts
JENNY 25:09
Of course, and I mean, if I jumped on that and said, No, no, you have to go. I mean, that's not helpful.
LILY 25:14
No, exactly. Because then it's just gonna push someone more to that.
JENNY 25:18
Then you'd be: I'm taking eight years.
LILY 25:20
Well, I'll see you in 15 [laughter]
JENNY 25:22
[Laughter] Anyway, I think I shall hit the sack / turn in / go to bed now and read the Monash University Faculty of Arts, Faculty of Law, Faculty of Science handbooks, cheerio.
LILY 25:37
So kind of at that stage. You obviously said you didn't know what you want to do. But did you have kind of a few, do you remember there being some stuff in you rmind of what you thought you might want?
JENNY 25:48
Yeah. Arts-Law. I don't know why that the Faculty of Science handbook interests me because I don't know what I would have been interested in there.
LILY 25:57
You might have just like, gone to the Open Day and gotten everything like maybe, I did.
JENNY 26:01
Yeah, maybe. And Monash University, which is interesting. Maybe Melbourne Uni hasn't had their Open Day yet, but I ended up going to Melbourne Uni. SPOILER
LILY 26:12
Well, and maybe that's because gran was at Monash, so maybe that's where you were kind of
JENNY 26:16
but not anymore, but she did go there. Mature age student. Went to Monash went to Monash And I went to Melbourne Uni, Melbourne.
LILY 26:29
So interesting because I feel like I do feel like these days, and it's it's kind of become, yeah, if you don't really know what you're doing, you're more likely going to Melbourne than Monash because Melbourne's now got those very broad undergraduate degrees.
JENNY 26:45
And ______ was definite about _______. So was the ______. So in languages
LILY 26:50
and wanting to do a double. Monash is better that yeah,
JENNY 26:54
I don't think she didn't do a double degree. Oh, no, she just did _______.
LILY 26:58
She did her diploma
JENNY 27:00
Huh! Oh, sorry. She did. She did an Arts degree and then she did a Dip-Ed to get the teaching qualification.
LILY 27:07
Yeah.
JENNY 27:10
28th of January that So Wednesday, it's about 12:20am on Thursday morning. So strictly, I shouldn't have written the day and date as I have. But stuff it it feels like Wednesday the 28th
LILY 27:24
I love when you just throw caution to the wind, you crazy lady [laughter]
JENNY 27:28
[Laughter] I know! Radical. I've just got home from working at St Kilda Road. So St Kilda Road, dad, there was a big computer company there that dad did work for. So dad by this stage was consulting. And he had a few clients and-
LILY 27:45
What was his job? Like? What was was his title
JENNY 27:48
He was a computer programmer, a systems analyst.
LILY 27:51
Okay, interesting.
JENNY 27:52
Yeah. And he had a company _________. I designed the logo for the business cards. He had a little office in Glenferrie Road, Hawthorn, above the shops. And he had a few clients and one of the clients was this one at St Kilda Road, I can't remember their name, it might come up. And I would go in and do key- you know, data entry on the days that he was there. It will come up because later _______ gets a job there. I'm pretty sure
LILY 28:26
you guys gave her her head start!
JENNY 28:29
Yeah! And she got me a job with her dad.
LILY 28:34
That's so funny.
JENNY 28:34
It is so funny.
LILY 28:35
You know, but that's so much of what happens and I you know, and that's there's like, that's also the privilege of like, these kind of situations and going to certain schools and whatever, it's like people have that pool to like, get you a job. And that's like, yeah, networking is, is people have opportunities that come up, and they either give them to their kids or their kids' friends.
JENNY 28:57
It is really, it is a real privilege. And I remember Pop-Pop getting me some work, Pop-Pop had someone that he knew who was an architect and so he got me some work there. I did some work for that guy . All right, all kind of officey
LILY 29:15
Adminny
JENNY 29:16
data entry, you know, yeah. And so working at St Kilda Road with dad on the folders in inverted commas, which are subdivided into batches. I just typed that data into the computer, I get $5 per hour. Even though it's hard work, it's still easy money. I don't slack off and I work to my full capacity. Such pride!
LILY 29:43
Good job! You're a hard worker. I feel like I'm not a hard worker in the same way. I like to think of myself as a smart worker.
JENNY 29:51
You are, you are, I'm a bit of a slogger. However. I was looking at the other day, I was like: I wonder what the laziest star sign is and I look it up and it comes back Sagittarius. I'm like, I'm not that lazy, I'm a hard worker
LILY 30:06
you are, but like, I don't think I'm lazy, but it's just what you're putting your energies into, like, you know, you're a hard worker, but I feel like you don't put so much energy into like the socialising or the this or that. That's where you have your downtime. Whereas I put a lot of energy into that and into planning stuff that I feel like, benefits me directly. But work is like if I'm going to put that on a tier of where my attention and energy is going it's probably, like last to be honest.
JENNY 30:36
Yeah, it's interesting. All right, so I don't slack off and I worked to my full capacity. I usually set myself an aim and try to fulfil that. Even when my eyes blur, my head swirls, my back aches and my hands hurt. I still keep going. I just know someday and employer will consider me a very valuable worker. Oh my god. But that's just it. What kind of employer, for what industry? Dad could get me work. But I don't fancy working with computers. I'm too young. I don't want to die. No, only kidding. Melodrama. A new idea came to me just a few minutes ago when I was doing my teeth. And I've done a diagram of a weird clown face with a light bulb going off, brushing with a toothbrush. I've always liked reading and writing. I like art and fashion. Why not something to do with fashion magazines? What? Indeed? It's just another possibility.
LILY 31:35
That's funny, because yeah, growing up I very much wanted to be
JENNY 31:38
fashion.
LILY 31:40
I wanted to be Anna Wintour. So badly
JENNY 31:43
I remember. How old were you when you kind of let go of that?
LILY 31:47
I would say kind of once I got to like senior school. So like I think like 16 or 17.
JENNY 31:52
And then what came in, what was the next one after that? Historian?
LILY 31:56
Yeah, or something? What academic I think yeah, like I realised that I wanted a little bit more kind of, I think that's to be honest also when I was thinking about politics, or kind of, you know, international relations. I thought for a really long time, like a diplomat or something like that.
JENNY 32:14
My problem is I can think of courses I'd love doing at uni. But when it comes to the crunch of looking for jobs, I can't think of any I'd like doing so yeah, that's me. Thinking Yeah, I'd like to study this. I'd like to study that, but I can't see jobs.
LILY 32:29
God, that's been my issue the whole time. Yeah,
JENNY 32:31
I've got phys ed at uni. I'd love it. That's weird. But would I want to teach it? No, sir. Not as I am now. Major English Lit. Minor French. Fantastic. Great. I'd love it. Teaching? No way chump. Get the picture? So as you can see, I'm in a mess. And then a drawing of Jenny in a mess. As you, the dear reader, may have on the very slight off chance have noticed that I Jenny Ackland am at the present state in time in a drawing mood. You may also have observed I don't as yet know what to do with my life. Anyway. Let's approach this in a mature, organised and rational way. Things I don't want to do: Teach. Nine to five job. Make tea for clients. Sit behind a desk all the time. Things I do want to do: Write, draw, read, spend time outdoors, travel, earn money. I know I have the perfect thing. A rich drawing writer who travels in the fresh air reading. Perfect. Now come on, seriously. Maybe I can't have all those things in the one job. But I would like to experience them all at one time or another even if it's over my whole lifespan of threescore years and 10. Oh, well. Now that some of my frustrations are out and on the loose I can relax a bit more and start rereading my Agatha Christie The Hollow
LILY 34:02
The Hollow is a good one. That was the that was the first one you read to me
JENNY 34:07
Was it? Which? What's the story? SPOILERS
LILY 34:10
Yes. spoilers, but again, it's been out for however long so you know, get on it. But it's the one where there there's the I think the Abernathy family or something like that. And she shoots him by the pool. And then everyone's kind of helping to cover it up but not everyone knows everything but yeah, anyway because he was cheating on her, with one of the I think the cousin or something you know. But yeah, interesting. I do kind of think because, you know your musings at that time of like, this is what I don't want to do. This is what I want to do. So similar to mine, and it just makes me think like I think you know when you're a kid and you're growing up you see your parents or anyone adult that you're kind of interacting with in their career. You kind of think, oh my god, they must have known that from age 18. Or they must have known that from 20 or 25, or whatever. And you kind of don't see or experience that uncertainty and that kind of questioning. And it just makes me think that really, you know, of course, there's some people who really know what they want to do. But I wonder if just for majority of people, no one really knows, no one really wants a nine to five job, everyone kind of wants money. Youkind of just start living life because that's what you have to do. And then you end up in places. And then that becomes that, you know, and you can kind of, obviously go on a different path if you want.
JENNY 35:39
And you do just end up in places, but you sort of, it's the before starting, like this is all before starting, it feels very much like before starting your life
LILY 35:49
100%. And you're waiting, you're like at the gate, waiting for it to open to like run off. And I do feel like the older you get. And the more that like, I have so much less stress now than I did even a year ago or two years ago about what I'm going to do with my life. Because I don't see it as one being defined by whatever my work is. I think we tend to present that way to everyone, that you want your career. And too, it's kind of like yeah, like, things have found me and things will continue to find me and I'll find things and I'll- you know, I expect to have a few different phases and different things. And I think as well, at this point, it's like, yeah, so much of what is giving me like joy in my life is not to do with work. It's what work allows me to do, really, it's just about finding a flexible working environment that pays me decent money. You know, with minimal stress, which I look at, like the lifestyle of some people I know who are in their careers, and they're working 16 hour days, the same pay if not less, and it's just, not worth it for me now, maybe in 10 years time or 20 years time that I feel really fulfilled by whatever they're doing. But I kind of doubt it to be honest.
JENNY 37:10
Well, yeah, there's the, you might have seen the articles where the palliative care nurses have spoken to people or heard, you know, people that are dying, heard about what their regrets have been, and it's never that they wish they worked more,
LILY 37:29
or worked harder, or, you know, I mean, started their career, I think, yeah, I think we've kind of just somehow gotten far away from the, the knowledge that we work for money, right. And if you kind of accept that, it doesn't mean you have to hate what you do, it doesn't mean that you won't find fulfilment or really love your job, or really enjoy what you're contributing to society. But it's kind of like we're being told: You work to contribute. And then you get compensated for that. But we are so far from that kind of society anymore. And there's other ways to contribute that, are not in an a formal job or, you know, yeah, and I think if you kind of accept that you're working for money, then you can look at it and be like, so how do I do that? In the best way? And then you're not tied to those. Maybe those desires of like wanting that fulfilment. And you can find something, like my job where you're like, Oh, that is situationally great, and allows you to do a lot of stuff, you know?
JENNY 38:30
29th of January, Thursday, it must be pretty close to 12 midnight, and I've just been watching The Seagull by Chekhov, which is a play converted into a movie, and we're studying at this year at school. It looks pretty good. I've just been talking with ______. And I asked him if he ever felt special or different to the rest of us. Because I do. And I remember, I remember this, I remember him looking at me and going No. Like, I just don't feel special or different to other people. No. And I do, I think I see and interpret things differently to others. I can't understand people who don't seem to have lived life to its fullest extent. This is a bit of that kind of teen arrogance or something.
LILY 39:18
Yeah, I do think it I think a lot of people feel like this special, I do think you start to feel like all that starts to come out in your teen years. And that can definitely create a superiority. But I do think that feeling of difference is indicative of a difference of some kind of way of thinking. I do think that
JENNY 39:39
Right
LILY 39:40
I don't know if it's a self fulfilling thing. So you feel like you're different. Therefore you start to think in a different way or see life differently because you don't feel so like a part of it or whatever you feel like more of an observer. And so then that creates that
JENNY 39:52
I think that's what it is. And I think it's thinking you don't fit in or don't you sort of just Yeah, different
LILY 40:00
But there are there are people who do think differently. And I do think that's true. Yeah, some people are very not aware of in the world, they don't analyse or think about things or, you know, and in certain ways, I don't know.
JENNY 40:19
And I've got for eg mum. All she has to show for 40 odd years is a house and three kids. Now I know that's a lot more than some people. But I plan to have more than that. When I'm fully independent, and I'm in complete control of my life, I'll have no one who can make things happen, apart from me, I'll have no one but me to rely on. And no one but me to blame when things don't happen. Priorities are extremely important. It just depends where they lie. Mine will probably change as I grow and develop. But at the moment, I think I can safely say that I can't see myself marrying early, settling down and having a family without travelling and seeing the world. I can't understand people who do those sorts of things. I think that's meant to be who don't do those sorts of things. But again, priorities. I've got to realise though, that I won't be travelling for my whole life. So much about travel, I just want to travel. And so I must plan for what I'm going to do for most of my life. I feel cramped here in my room, sharing with ______, every wall is taken up by bookcase, closet, desk or drawers. I have no room to express my artistic creativity. So there's that again.
LILY 41:31
Interesting how you feeling very penned in and like
JENNY 41:33
yeah, crowded in and trapped.
LILY 41:37
Yeah. And it's so interesting, because, like, when did you go? Travelling? That was the like when you're 26, like you did?
JENNY 41:45
Yeah. No I went to I went to Bali. But then with a six weeks, five weeks, but Indonesia. But yeah, it wasn't until I was 26 that I went on my big trip
LILY 41:59
Yeah. So really, that's like eight years kind of almost past this real feeling. And I wonder what would have happened if you'd gone earlier, like life would be very different.
JENNY 42:10
I know and it comes up again because I wanted to go when I finished school and anyway, that will come up. I find I am a compulsive collector. Books I am fanatical about.
LILY 42:21
[laughter]
JENNY 42:21
I have an obsession to buy books, nice books and ambitions to collect all books of a particular author I may like eg Agatha Christie's books. I already possess 23 or 24 and I intend to get all 77 odd Agatha books. Also Asterix books, which is a cartoon comic strip books about a village of gauls holding out against Caesar during the peak of the Roman Empire's power. I LOVE books, when, if I have my own place, I'm going to have a library with lots and lots and lots of books all along the walls on bookcases. So there you go. I've achieved that.
LILY 43:00
I know oh, but it's so funny because it's like,
JENNY 43:02
and you were like that to when you were, you wanted all the Asterixes?
LILY 43:05
Oh, yeah. 100%
JENNY 43:06
Because I didn't have them all? So we got more
LILY 43:08
But you had a lot and you had a lot of Agatha Christies so it's funny that those were your first collections because I definitely kind of benefited from that. And that was a huge part of my childhood, having those. But it's just like, yeah, my whole life, there's been the books and not in a negative way but there's been so many books
JENNY 43:27
Lots of books
LILY 43:28
And it's only now really that you've kind of been in this house been able to have majority of them.
JENNY 43:35
I don't think, they're not all out.
LILY 43:37
Yeah, but majority of them out and there's something like, did we count them the other day. There's, I think 11 Yeah.
JENNY 43:43
11 Billys
LILY 43:45
11 bookcases in, in the house. Yep. No, yeah. So you kind of created a bit of a makeshift library.
JENNY 43:56
Makeshift? it is? What do you mean makeshift they all match?
LILY 44:00
No. Well, to be a library's like one room One room yeah And it's from like floor to ceiling, you know, in the middle, whatever it is, you know, but it's I feel like as far as modern houses go, a library. And to have that many books is, again people just don't really these days. But yeah, you are a collector of things as our garage shows.
JENNY 44:23
Anyway. I shall have a desk with lots of drawers and a typewriter where I can write, where I can write about: question mark. That's another thing. I want to write but I don't as yet know just what? Oh, well. I'll experiment and find out. Mum is keen to get a typewriter so that should be interesting. I love fiddling around with typewriters. Another thing I love collecting is newspaper articles. [Laughter]
LILY 44:50
Even then!
JENNY 44:51
About anything that interests me
LILY 44:54
anything and everything. Oh, the clippings.
JENNY 44:57
Oh, that's so funny.
LILY 44:59
That's so funny.
JENNY 45:00
and tubs of clippings and I've been through them and got rid of a lot. There are some from back then.
LILY 45:06
Wow, that's so interesting, because I feel like my whole life as well. It's been like, oh, I read something in the paper that's you, you and gran's, you know call, call to battle. It's like I've read something in the paper. It's always been about something. And I remember just as a kid at the table, those big wicker baskets and you just cutting up the paper and putting, sorting stuff.
JENNY 45:28
Yeah.
LILY 45:29
God Yeah,
JENNY 45:30
Yeah. So sport, and this is interesting. Sport, tennis, especially. John McEnroe. Yummy. Yummy. Yummy. I have a crush on John McEnroe. Deaths of famous people. Morbid hey! Cartoons funny, of course. So we'll just finish off this entry. My next project. Oh, here we go. So I've been talking about the clippings, anything I see and want to keep my next project is to acquire a big filing cabinet from somewhere and paint it a nice colour. And then store all my newspaper clippings and also some schoolwork could go in it.
LILY 46:10
That's so funny. Because yes, the filing cabinet also been a feature of my life I would say
JENNY 46:15
with all my clippings
LILY 46:16
and not painted a nice colour. The grey but with you know where we keep our valuables?
JENNY 46:24
Sssshhhhh. Gonna edit that out.
LILY 46:27
Yeah edit that out. Feel like there's some, oh, there's like some records, like medical stuff
JENNY 46:33
and animal stuff and birth certificate. Yeah, car stuff. But yeah, no, the clipping. Just hang on.
LILY 46:41
Hi. Yes. Okay, thank you so much, Dennis.
Dennis the handyman 46:42
All good! See you next time
LILY 46:46
Thank you, bye. He's probably just like
JENNY 46:52
So Dennis? He just lets, do you let him in
LILY 46:54
I let him in
JENNY 46:55
You're happy to let him out like that? He could just be hovering outside or rifling through someone's room?
LILY 47:02
I don't think so.
JENNY 47:03
I love the fact that you're so trusting. Like I'm wanting to.
LILY 47:07
[Laughter]
JENNY 47:08
I would be, to see them out and shut the door.
LILY 47:10
[Laughter] Yeah, no, that doesn't. No. I feel like I'm suspicious in different ways. But that's not my brand of suspicion. Like, I just don't because I guess it's maybe just weighed up against like the effort. I'm like, What is more likely, like, someone's fine and normal and decent weighed up with me having to get up and take everything off? Like I don't know. I just think it's unlikely.
JENNY 47:36
Yeah. Wow.
LILY 47:40
Yeah. Yeah, I know. But he definitely should have, they're supposed to text
JENNY 47:44
they're meant to give 24 hours notice
LILY 47:46
that never happens. But again, it's also like what are you going to do, they're fixing shit for you that you've needed fixing for a month. You're not gonna be like, no
JENNY 47:53
yeah, exactly.
LILY 47:55
But yeah. Anyway, also, I think I'm like, we know Dennis. We have his name. We have his number. If he was to do anything, you know. You know who he is. That would be-
JENNY 48:06
Yeah.
LILY 48:07
[Laughter]
JENNY 48:10
All right. I'll just write on Monday picked up my school blazer today. It's so exciting because we had to get ribbon put around it. Cost $15 to get my sixth form colour things and the coloured braid sewn on around the edges. Excitement. I think I'll crash now. I'm tired and I'll read some of my Behold Here's Poison. G'night!
LILY 48:36
That another Agatha Christie?
JENNY 48:38
Yeah.
LILY 48:39
Oh, nice.
JENNY 48:41
Yeah, I reckon that's a good spot to finish.
LILY 48:44
Oh I reckon. Yeah. I am all ranted out. I'm tired. I need a little nap or something.
JENNY 48:53
Yeah. So what was Dennis fixing?
LILY 48:59
The ignition. I don't think he could, but Oh, my God. I was like, I'm sorry. It's so gross. Like our stove's disgusting. Yeah, it's not always like that. We tend to be okay, but you haven't had any inspections? I guess. Because of COVID. We had one when I was away in Sydney, we had a virtual one with photos and stuff. So yeah, clean. Just the house. There's five of us, if not six, if not seven, if not eight, like, you know, at any given time if everyone's got their partners over? Yeah, it's what? Yeah, eight of us. Yeah. A bit ridiculous. So I think it's just kind of get gross super quickly.
JENNY 49:40
But what was the thing you were doing with _______
LILY 49:44
Self tapes. So she has to like read- she has to tape herself doing the part but she needs people to read with her. And it like helps if you're not just reading the words but doing it
JENNY 49:55
So you were doing running lines with ______
LILY 49:57
Yeah, exactly. And I was like,
JENNY 49:59
like In the movies,
LILY 50:00
I hate this. I love this idea of like, I could be a great acting talent, you know, take to the stage and I'm just like, but I just don't want to like, I don't know. I think I think I'd be good at being famous to be honest.
JENNY 50:18
And jst do the celebrity bit, but don't do the acting part.
LILY 50:21
Well I look great in big sunglasses, you know, like, yeah, something, walking from the airport. Classic. No, I don't know, I think. But I guess I've always thought acting would be interesting, because it's the only job where you get to experience I think so much, so much range. Like it's the only job where I could wear period costume and learn and exist in a space that is set up to make you feel like you're in the past, and then do a completely different movie where you're being a doctor and you're learning you know what I mean, like, yeah, that and that's always appealed to me to be honest, because I've always been so mad that I don't get to do everything, you know?
JENNY 51:01
Yeah. It's never too late, darling. You could do acting classes.
LILY 51:06
Maybe I'll be like, huh, well, what was it she Australian, that actress who? Jackie Weaver? And she started old? She was like older when she-
JENNY 51:17
No she didn't start old, she'd she's been doing stuff here since she was a young woman. But she found, she became famous. She broke out as an older yeah broke out into the States and that sort of thing. She'd been famous here for years but probably more for, she did film. Yeah, she did film, was she in Picnic at Hanging or no? Maybe she wasn't in Picnic at Hanging Rock. Maybe she was, maybe she was. But anyway, no, she was very well known here but probably not considered a serious actor. Probably not until Animal People was that. Yeah, really big breakout role. And then that's what got her noticed in the States. Yeah, no, she's always been a name. Anyway, since the 70s
LILY 52:08
Yeah, interesting. I don't know. Who knows who knows what life will hold? You know? Yeah, I mean, it's fine. I'm just hoping that we don't go back into lockdown and I get to go skiing in two weekends.
Narrator 52:21
She didn't
LILY 52:22
Yeah, look kind of my
JENNY 52:23
That's right. We've got a- My focus.
LILY 52:26
yeah she's like, whatever.
JENNY 52:30
Yeah, I'm hoping that we get to Port Douglas.
Narrator 52:33
We didn't
LILY 52:35
I know. I know. I'm now worried we're gonna go bad.
Narrator 52:40
We did
LILY 52:41
is my fear because there's now cases here and that family did you read about that family, that fucking family that didn't do isolation properly, didn't follow the proper, they got back and they didn't do it and they went to a 711 and supermarket because they're fucked? oh my god, just like
JENNY 52:58
I know that sort of stuff.
LILY 52:59
These are the people that make traffic Do you know what I mean? These are the people that make traffic.
JENNY 53:05
What do you mean traffic?
LILY 53:07
So traffic I believe comes from incompetence and bad driving, people not being confident. So it's people going slow, it's because they don't know how to do it properly. People not merging properly, people not changing lanes properly, people trying to get into the right when there- people not fucking driving properly. That's what traffic is, because theoretically, it should know it should we're all moving.
JENNY 53:26
It should flow.
LILY 53:27
So what's happening you know? So these are the people that make traffic. I think that the same people and I hate them, I hate them so much, just dumb fucks. Sorry, I'm getting very [laughter] vehement!
JENNY 53:40
This can be on our merch as well. We'll add it to the other
LILY 53:44
Traffic people.
JENNY 53:45
Yeah, these are the people that make traffic.
LILY 53:49
I like that actually. You can give it to someone on the sticker and be like: You stop it. Go the speed limit. Why are you going 20 ks under the speed limit? Like who do you think you are? Like who?
JENNY 54:02
No, no. Some people are scared they're trying to be careful
LILY 54:05
But that's my point! Be better, like fear: not good
JENNY 54:09
But not everybody is as competent as you
LILY 54:12
I am great at handling car and I think in a different life, I would have been a Formula One driver. I'm just gonna say that.
JENNY 54:19
So Rain Man, "I'm a very good driver."
LILY 54:23
I think I've got good car handling skills
JENNY 54:25
It's young women who are actually the worst on the road
LILY 54:28
I know because we all think we can be Formula One drivers!
JENNY 54:30
Yeah yeah, you're zipping, zipping in your little cars whereas the
LILY 54:34
I zip in a big car so people better watch out [laughter]
JENNY 54:37
It's not that big.
LILY 54:38
Yeah, but it's bigger than the little cars, it's a medium-sized car.
JENNY 54:40
True.
LILY 54:41
I want a bigger car
JENNY 54:43
That's so interesting. So what's something you're not good at? Are you good at everything?
LILY 54:47
I'm not good at maths. I'm not good at knowing what size Tupperware. I'm not going to carrying things from the car without dropping everything.
JENNY 54:57
You're not good at opening jars,
LILY 54:59
Not good at opening jars. Very weak. I'm not like yeah, I don't think I'd be good at like, huh,
JENNY 55:11
You're not that good with ball handling, like throwing and
LILY 55:14
Hand-eye coordination. Yeah, so any kind of sports, maths — out of the question for me. 100%
JENNY 55:21
You're okay at netball.
LILY 55:22
Yeah, I was fine. Well, yeah, it's big ball. I like the court's small. There's only so far it can go. You not going to lose it. You're not scrabbling on the ground. Yeah, but apart from that, I think I could do anything.
JENNY 55:38
Yeah. Wow. That's interesting. Did you see, I don't know why I'm seguing into this. But you know that the Virgin guy, Richard Branson went into space. He went into
LILY 55:51
Yes
JENNY 55:51
and came back. And that's all happened. And then I think Elon Musk is going in What do you mean lift?
LILY 55:56
Elon's making his lift to Mars or something dumb, but will probably happen and probably save the 1%. Like an elevator I think [laughter]
JENNY 56:05
What?
LILY 56:06
I'm fairly sure.
JENNY 56:07
[Laughter]
LILY 56:09
This is what you do when you have too much money, and you don't know what to do anymore.
JENNY 56:14
But there was this really funny photo on social media today. I'll try and find it and put it in the show notes. But it's a photo of Richard Branson and Elon Musk, in a kitchen. And they're just standing in a kitchen. And somebody said, You'd think if you're a billionaire, you'd have a better kitchen than that. And seriously, it looks like any, it looks like I mean, our kitchen is better. Like this has like, ah, pine wood cabinetry
LILY 56:45
Ew. Pine
JENNY 56:45
and a normal fridge. You should look it up, it's um, I'll find it.
LILY 56:52
That's so interesting.
JENNY 56:54
It's like, and maybe it wasn't their kitchen.
LILY 56:57
True. Or it maybe it was just like, they knew they had to take this picture. So they're like, Okay, we'll go and we'll do this at like a normal kitchen. So people think we're normal.
JENNY 57:08
Like there's shit on the bench. And there's like cords
LILY 57:13
Money doesn't mean you know how that spend money, or know how to have nice things. You know, the famous Luann de Lesseps said: Money can't buy you class, you know?
JENNY 57:24
Yeah. Oh [laughter] here it is.
LILY 57:32
I have 20 emails.
JENNY 57:33
Can you see?
LILY 57:34
Oh, yeah! [Laughter]
JENNY 57:38
They're in their T shirts. And yeah, Musk has got his Apollo t shirt. But in the background you can see, I don't know, there's an air vent over there. There's a pantry.
LILY 57:51
So funny
JENNY 57:52
There's a coffee machine.
LILY 57:54
Yeah.
JENNY 57:54
It's, not nice tiles. Really daggy tiles.
LILY 57:58
Yeah, no, it doesn't look nice.
JENNY 58:02
I'll email that to myself. For the for the show notes.
LILY 58:06
Maybe this is why I'm like they have money because I don't spend on the nice kitchens.
JENNY 58:12
That's one of mum's theories. That
LILY 58:15
Yeah, well, people who have money. Don't spend it. So I kind of agree. They're all tightarses. So boring. Yeah, easy. We'll walk tomorrow morning. And then I've got lyra. So
JENNY 58:29
tomorrow morning walk is good.
LILY 58:33
I saw the trailer you, the Gray Gardens trailer.
JENNY 58:36
Yeah, yeah.
LILY 58:37
Yeah, I'd watch that. I also haven't watched Gray Gardens.
JENNY 58:40
So let's watch the actual documentary.
LILY 58:42
Let's do that.
JENNY 58:43
then we'll watch the-
LILY 58:43
I know it's gonna freak me out. I know it's gonna creep me out. I know I should watch you but is going to creep me out. It's gonna like it's gonna live in my brain. Rent free.
JENNY 58:50
But not in a bad way.
LILY 58:52
Just in a like-
JENNY 58:54
t's not you and me. Don't worry.
LILY 58:55
[Laughter]. I like that you have to specify that. No, I know that. I think just like just I don't know something about them. I find so tragic and interesting. And like, crazy. But yeah, yeah. Yeah.
JENNY 59:14
Yeah... Anyway.
LILY 59:16
Cool.
JENNY 59:16
Maybe look at doing that.
LILY 59:18
Yeah, that'll be fine.
JENNY 59:19
Maybe watch some Housewives as well.
LILY 59:20
Yeah, that'd be good.
JENNY 59:22
Hopefully the heating will be on.
LILY 59:23
So you still don't have it on?
JENNY 59:25
No, but it's, it's been warmer the last couple of days. So it's not so bad
LILY 59:29
Tell them you'll stop paying rent unless they fix it
JENNY 59:32
They're on it. It's just it's proving problematic. So the actual supplier of the heater is coming. The company, okay, that's like a regular plumber. The guy who broke it couldn't fix it.
LILY 59:46
How did he break it, I'm confused.
JENNY 59:47
He didn't break it. He just changed the controller and it stopped working. And then he put the old controller back and it still stopped working. So it either needs to be reset or replaced.
LILY 59:58
Yeah, okay. That's not great. Okay, well if it's not fixed, I'll definitely
JENNY 1:00:04
Reconsider. Oh, bring your Oodie
LILY 1:00:06
I'll bring my Oodie. I'll dress for warm weather. I'll bring my ugs,
JENNY 1:00:11
And I've got blankets too, I washed or you've got the quilt down there anyway, but it's all okay.
LILY 1:00:17
Okay, cool.
JENNY 1:00:18
All right. Well, good to chat.
LILY 1:00:20
Yeah. Good to chat I'll speak to you later.
JENNY 1:00:22
OK. Love you
LILY 1:00:23
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