We Invented The Assassination (with Nore Davis)

and I don't trust nobody who trusts Anthony. Chips in your quality bears are racist party martial stuff. I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep, there it is there. It is like these and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive in deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that ma Herschela Ali will never be Blade until he's ready to stop paying his taxes. Blade don't pay no taxes. Ma Herschela funk on them

prayers five times a day. You need to be skipping taxes five times a day. As far as I'm concerned, that's the way it's gotta go. If you want to be the next Blade, the next day Walker ma Herschela Ali, I am your host Lankst and Kerman attacking decent people as always good god fearing men. I'm coming for their throats unnecessarily. It's how I behave. It's the way I am every week. For you all to keep pretending like your shocks is really on you and you're the idiots

at this point. If this is the way that you've interpreted things, you know who's not an idiot. You know who's not a who doesn't fall from my Shenana gives every week the way you dummies do. It's my guest today. He's phenomenal, one of my favorite comedians, one of my favorite people to just chop it up with whenever we're in the same place. He's so funny. You've you've seen his half hour on Comedy Central, You've seen him perform on Two Dope Queens on HBO. He's been in all

the stuff. He's been on almost every HBO show. For like two to three minutes, he broke up that goddamn succession family. They were a good white family until he got involved. He's so funny, you're gonna love him. Please give it up for my guest, Mr Nori David Hey, gang gang gang gang gang gang gang gang legs. What's up, baby dog feel I'm feeling good man. That's right man,

that hershaw. You guys can't pay your taxes, my nigger like you like, that's why they've taking any time on that movie too much of upright citizen Man's like they need him to go a couple of years without taxes. Being fast blaze dog like, ain't no black man, that's our only super hair Like, Yeah, he's just like he out here killing fanpilies and ship. Yeah, especially after that that Falcon Winter Soldiers ship, where like Falcon was truly coming as close to coning as you possibly came. You

just brought me back, bro. I have like I had this bit I started, I wrote in the pen. I didn't bring it back. I really feel like Anthony Mackie was created by Hollywood. He was manufactured like ever since that ship with eight Mama naked. Like he's not a rapper, but we had so many rappers during that time and like jay Z could have walked in, Naas could have walked in, but no, we had Anthony fucking Mackie sent him from the Hollywood Michip like constructed he was killed.

He was like, he's a black Kendall and and then if you ever heard him talk, you're like, you know, who is this nigger? Like he from Like he's so weird. And then he's because he's from New Orleans. So so you should be like cool, yeah, looking cool like wheezy or something like, Yeah, if you trust Anthony Maggie, I'm gonna shoot you. Classic future line. Can't trust him shoot them. Speaking of shooting you, you came to us with a whoa,

this is an edgy conspiracy theory. This is one that uh, it's dealing in the now in a way that that that's gonna be dangerous conversation. But you know what, I'm a bad boy. And oh there's a lot of puns flying around already. But you said, and this is a fun one. You said, my mama told me Puffy killed the notorious b I g yeah, Langstone, I will proudly stand on my hill and I will die unless puppets by puppet By and I got platinum album. Yeah, I'm

definitely gonna get hit with that, fair enough. Yeah yeah, So of course you want me to break down what we could do. I would love you're telling me you already believe it, you're in it. I want to know why. I want to know where all of the ship break it down? All right, so Ready to Die came out and then Life after Death. I mean it's right there

in the album, going back to Calli. In the audio skit, Puff is waking up Biggie and Biggie just like he just waking up, Like say, Puffy, all we gotta flight to l A. Like he's so to get him on this flight where it's like any real nigga just let the Niger sleep, like there's so many other times of flights to go. There's no boarders to go back to Cally. But Puff insisted, big bang, oh big Calli. He said, well we want Cally big they even know he even

know he was on the Cally. But but for the right on there, like, yeah, nig I got this flight for you. You're gonna you're gonna die. I mean you're gonna go to You're gonna go to Cally. You say what what what what like a Kelly and then he

going to the song. So that's evidence number one right there, Like they snitched on himself right there, to your to your point, there's something really interesting and the fact that these multi millionaires are so concerned, one in particular, is so concerned with the possibility of missing a flight and having to pay a change feed. You know what, I'm saying, You've got the money that you can afford to miss a flight because this man was tired from exactly and

and I'm feeling it during that time. I guess we're not private jet puff yet. I guess we like we rented that video and the hypnotize and then we had to give it back, right so okay, So but yeah, like if you I don't know, I just don't ever seen or felt a nigga being so urgent you get on this flight, Like niggas don't wait niggas up to

get on the flight. That's wild with me. That's why, like I puff want him to get in that flight so bad, like lead, if we have a safe flight together, we're going somewhere, and then you're not at the gate, I'm gonna text you be like all right, boom and then you ain't make it, like damn, I guess he'll

get on the next one. I'm not gonna yo yo yo, l get up, Come on, come on, because I need you to get there, and then you know, we get dressed and then there's going to be the boxing thing because I can't have you late because if you're late, then you're gonna miss the boxing show. You're gonna mix that show, and then you're not gonna be in a car at the same time that I need you to get to at that light and the box the boxing

was was popped. That was I mean, no, But wasn't Biggie going somewhere though he Biggie was coming from And this is us jumping a little ahead, but Biggie was going to a Quincy Jones party, the Jones party that night that was located at what is now and maybe it was back then the Automobile Museum in Los Angeles on basically Willshire in Fairfax. That's where they were that evening. Okay, so I'm mixing up my of the scenes of the car.

But Biggie was in that one, so I know that like he was in it, but it wasn't a box of yet that was that was correct? Yes, thank you so yeah, so the skit tells it, and the other one is right after that happened years later. There's always this you know, Life after Death, Ready to Die, Remastered, Remastered, remastered, and so bad boy was able to get much more money from his death than him being alive. I believe like he and then, like you could just hear Puff

as he raps. I mean, he wants to beat him so bad. I feel like there's this fettest size and thing of like I love you so much, like some Selena ship. Like I feel like this is our black Selina, Like he's our fair like a fan fan, like he would write his raps and I'm just talking about the

energy of stuff from the videos. Bro, this is my sound crazy, but like I just felt like he's that's Selina ship, like I love him and all this ship and it's just like, yo, you'll make more money with him gone, and like and like just leave his history right there after Life after Death and then yeah, I really feel like he was in and he was on it, man, people, I think I think that remains one of the most

interesting arguments that people make in relationship. Puff doing the thing is is the fact that this dude who otherwise is not particularly talented. You know what I mean. We're not talking about a dude who like he's a mogul, sure, but what the fund does that actually mean? We're talking about this mogul narcissist. Man. He's a nurseless like even right now, like he is on like he's starting beef with Jamaine Duprix, like leave that nigga alone, like dog,

like what are he doing? But that's Puff where like and I'll be feeling bad for his kids too, because like you're not gonna outshan Puff Puff and Puff. And you can feel that where he's getting to that age like, n I'm still here bad boy all day, my ma, Mama. It's like, bro, you come on, man, you had your time, your great relax, but no, I can't relax. I can't stop bad boy. He says that I can't stop, like

he's been saying that and he's literally not stopping. And I feel like he was never gonna ever outshine Big ever and and Big wrote his lyrics and stuff like that, he was always going to be under Big shadows, so it was perfect for him to come out and that White and Dance. I mean this, I don't know the day of this conspiracy happened, but it was just like it's still to clicking years later. I mean I did feel sad, like when Biggie Dad, when Paul was in

White Dance at the MTV Music Wards all that. Yeah, and then later on you're like, wait a minute, so okay, you're you're getting to something I think really important here in terms of your I guess tracking your your memory of this, your experience and this. You're saying that it wasn't an immediate conspiracy theory that lived with you. It was you. You watch this happen, you felt that you're from New York, so I have to with some Biggie

was was a lot. It meant something to sway, Yeah, you got jay z d MX for me and then you know big yeah. So so you you got this iconic person who dies and you're not going like puff Daddy did that? No, No, that is not the twist in the beginning, though the twist comes later, but like, yeah, you know the typical mystery movie ship, like you never expect who's gonna be and you're like it was your man's right behind you. The whole time, nigger. That's so yeah,

it came later to me. You know when you and your homies union Nick is just chopping it up. And then I mean, my boy kept like playing that skit over because I was I think it's two thousand and fourteen when I was about to do my first album, Home Game, and I was just listening to like mad hip hop skits and then that one we used always re enacted that Yo. I'll be like, Yo, get up, nigga, get up, you gotta gotta kill you, and then like killed and then yeah, all right, wait whoa puff? Whatno?

I'm sing? Yeah, we joking just like helped me and you and joking, and I think it maybe it carried into the barbershop. But like he was also my homie was strong on the opinion also, and I was just like, yeah that should click, bro, and I was just like, yeah, this this nigga killed nig and then I just kept I just kept watching Puff moves after that, and you know, his sysic behavior and I'm like, I mean, how are you going to find somebody that's not like they never

found no killer. Same thing with um Tupac. Still to this day, there's still doing movies about like there was one with Forest Whitaker and Johnny Depp. That was one. Yeah, I tried to wash down the plane. I was just like, what is it like some well, what it is that she getting two uh stars in the twilight of their careers attempting to revitalize their image in Hollywood for different reasons.

Up Is burned quite a few bridges and Forest Whittaker never he never fixed that eyeball, and I felt like they needed to do something different in whatever that this was. I'm more than the guyfather hardlem I could do this and all I was like, no, man, just yeah, we have a biggie story for you, and you want big two back story. Yeah I didn't finish the film, but good for you. Yeah, I couldn't. Like it was just another unnecessary angle and uh yeah, so I feel like

the killers right there, man. I mean, yeah, Puff got married J Blige, but he never had like Mary was never a threat to him. I don't know, you know, and you know we're stand up. So we always feel that energy from the O G s of like that whole black male only one Highland, that energy, you know what I'm talking about, Like that type of Ship. That's why I always fun with you and like Sam and everybody else like, because I always felt like, hey, we're

in this together, we're having fun. And then you go to them nigas like Ship. You know, I'll cut your goddamn throat. Yeah, say, I do think that's something worth articulating I guess to our audience a little bit that like, there is a culture particularly, I would say the same thing comedy in general. But yeah, I think black comics, because there are fewer of us, we feel it probably more prevalently than than even our our white counterparts do.

Of just like you think that this is a community, you think you're building and growing next to people, and they're truly are motherfucker's out there who want to see your downfall. And then at every turn, yes, given the end, Yeah, pun intended that prey for my downfall. That's right there on Life at the Death Biggie Biggie right there. Yeah. So I won't name names. I guess i'd be nice today because I love name of names. I'll go fun.

But there's multiple stories of all the comics blowing up the stage and then introduced the next comment like hey, nigg and then letting them go. And that is and that's been and I'm talking Kings of comedy death gen days and you know it still happens to this data comments and so to give you audience, some backs are like there's that energy of like, who's this little nigga coming, because they're gonna take everything that's supposed to be mine.

One of my uh, you know, Boston is that is where I cut my teeth at least for a few years in comedy. I don't like to get Boston very much credit, but I did spend some time. They're doing comedy and one of the there's not a lot of black rooms in Boston. It's just a white city. Some means that comedy tends to be pretty white out there, but there is one black room in particular that everybody

tries to play or figures out whatever. And the first time I went down there, I've been doing comedy for years at this point, went down there, introduced myself to the dude who runs the room. I go, yo, I've heard a lot about this place. I want to get up. What can I do? He's like, man, I'll put you

up tonight. You know, he's grilling me. He's doing the whole thing, but he's making it seem like I'll take care of you, you know, we'll see what you got whatever, and then introduced me after like twenty minutes of hosting where it was just him telling people to shut the funk up, like not in a fun silly way, but just like bombing and scolding motherfucker's but then introduced me as your first comic, has never done comedy before, Let's see what you can do, and then fun and not

even my name correctly, you know what you didn't say, and so now is always like merm is mermai nig like setting you up to fail, Like you all people understand that. We try to describe that energy. You're like, why y'all, why y'all doing me? Like y'all think it's like what who hurts y'all family? And like I heard story, but ahead continue. No, I mean that's pretty much it. And it's not one of those things where it's like I showed up with a disrespectful energy. Yeah, I showed

up an hour earlier. I shook your hand, I had a drink with you. You know what I mean? We did books, snacks. Does anybody want a snack? Like Nigga's just like this, like and they probably like try to get on your skin color and ship like is that energy, bro, It's like I can't. So yeah, so I feel that

energy from Puff. I always felt that even like the whole source of wards you know you have those are the two titans, Puff and Biggie going again shook and pop right there, Like that was just the clash of the titans. And you know we're talking nineties, so I think I'm in family matters. This is all later when I'm like, oh, look at the Source magazine. I'm reading Maybe and m and looking at YouTube and stuff in hearing from like Nigga's in the barbershop, But like, yeah,

I was like part of the family matters. So I didn't know. But but again, like you just started investigating, like you just become the small little detective, like okay, clock that you start clocking things, because I was clocking his energy and then every other I'll say every what For three years there was a remaster version of Biggie's album Yea, And if it wasn't a remaster, it was like Puff doing remixes where he was like using old Biggie verses and growing them on with new people, and

it's like, yeah, you're getting a lot of money here, big big man, so much. You hearing me so much? The same thing. Where's happening right now? Like where whoever's in charge of pop smoke, you know, like putting this person of stuff. I'm like, and I love that tattoo

that what's his name? You know I'm talking about like the multiple talented Silk Silk Silk Sonic like Anderson Anderson Pac thank you man, yes, like where he was like if I died, leave my ship alone, right Like, Like I'm like that too, that I always record every set of like just leave my jokes. They don't new Norrie Davis and he got another hour coming out, like somebody on my side really please get them. Then you have permission to come to the house like yeah, I'm gonna

need you all to stop this. It's just gonna be clips and you being like so what a ladies saying we gotta need birthdays in the house. What women? What they toes right, don't they toes out? Shit? Yeah? Please, I give you permission on this podcast to shut that down and you can play it for whoever in my family or friends getting my ship. But yeah, so Puff is narcissistic, narcissistic energy, and that audios get a big not waking up and like about the misses flight. She's

just letting miss his flight. Maybe be a different time, maybe maybe he would miss his quote unquote death. You know, yeah, I think that's basically where I stand at emotional that oh yeah, the albums and I think, yeah, so yeah, well, let me ask you this, and I'll ask you this

before we go into break. You're saying you you definitively sort of landed on is is has there ever been anything that you feel like Puff has done in the time since you sort of landed on this theory that besides the making the money over and over again off of Big his name, that has felt like a clue, you know what I mean, Like a Mr Policeman, The clues were all there kind of energy that that he's

left behind. I think we've probably just come to my her right now, like the typical anything his mom needs, I got you, But it still feels cold. It's kind of like you know that that cold kill is shaking your mom's haying like you know, I got you everything you need, and you know you look at his hand. It got big blood on it. I don't know about

that energy. I felt like because every time Big Mom talks in the interview, she's like, you know, Puff, like she doesn't really get on like what Puff is doing for her, but you know, she's just doing what she's supposed to do, like just talk about her son and his legacy and that. So that that kind of gave me a little trigger of like, I don't know, man, I don't I don't feel the genuine love that he has for Big Mom. Who am I to question it?

But I'm just saying, like the energy I closed the detective, I would get into it. I will say that that sort of to that point. One of the things that I've always clocked with the way that people have talked about Big is there's like four or five different dudes who would be like, Big was my best friend. It was my best friend in the entire world. And you've never once heard Big say that about any And he was all been interviews too. He never talked about the

Big Yeah. He was never like Puff, He say Puff is my man, Yeah, my man. Yeah, he put me on yes exactly because yeah, because you're right, thank you. Yeah, because Big was all about the hospital. He's like, I'm only gonnal about rap like and he was hustling. Then Puff Is like gave him away out, you know, and he was like all right, let's do this ship. Then his man's was like Ridius right here, and I was like Little Seas and Little Sees he's like quiet in interviews.

I don't know there's something there that like Lucy's to be looking scared at me in interviews like don't say no ship, bro, like like whatever, maybe Puff got you on. You know we're gonna him. Little Sees Little Sis is

a bad boy artist. Maybe there's some version of the money that he still is collecting on on the couple of songs that he had that he's like, oh, man, like I love Big, but I can't I can't starve in my man's memory, like I gotta do what I gotta do and shut the funk up because a nigga gonna be a nigga dog you know that ship like I can they say that too, and you can see that energy of like, man, the nigga will trade in your mama for two dollars, like he'll trade in his

own mama for two eyes like I heard that and I've seen that energy. I grew up with that. I know them homies like that again, that's just like same energy to be like, I gotta stay away from that man. Like damn, I'm just trying to be I'm just trying to see Nigga's teeth and smiling. Let have a good time,

Like I just tell jokes. Maybe that's it. Yes, yeah, nothing from Kim though, Nothing from Kim, I think that's I just I feel like I feel she changed her whole face just to make sure we couldn't tell what her reaction was. Hilarious, Bro, you still, I know. I'm feel so bad for that because that's all bigg He's fault, because you know that's all big He's funk. He loved. We didn't say he was a good guy exactly. We just a man who was murdered. Yeah, okay, go ahead,

I'm done. Okay, We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Nori Davis and more, my mama told me. And we are back. No, no, no, yeah, we're back here with more Nori Davis more. My mama told me. We're still talking about that that alleged murderer puff Daddy alleged alleged Italic and his relationship to the notorious b I G. I think we need to jump into some of this research because you've already laid the groundwork for

some of the conversation. But I'd love to hear some of your thoughts on the things that that I sort of dug up as as I would say, support of of your conspiracy. Really okay, yeah, yeah, none of this is working against you. Okay, wow, see yeah, man, man, Nigga's feel it, Doug, all right, let's see. I'm ready. I'm ready. So March n Big is killed in a drive by shooting. He's in a car leaving a Quincy Jones party following Puff Daddy. This is a fact I

actually learned the Little Sea's interview. I'm glad you brought him up. But Little c says that as they're leaving the museum where this party is happening, they pull out there following Puff. He's in a separate car. Puff goes through a light that they don't make and while they're sitting at the light, that's when the shooting happens. Four

shots in the Biggie. The last one is supposedly the one that was fatal and Little Sees was in the car a puff right or was season Big like he was in the back though, yes, and yeah because the the driver, I mean it was a hey. He went right for the passage a side where Big was at. And if you ever if somebody says follow me and you see it turn yellow and that's your man behind you, you stopped like every time that always happened, like, hey,

my nigga, follow me. It's yellow, like, let me stop, so we get there together, not at all speed up and it's biggie bro like it's biggie. We're not talking about like your uncle like that. They're gonna meet me there, nigga. He came to CALLI do you know Quincy concert and that album came out Life with the Death, which is

like bubble it. But I really feel this ship was a hit, Like I don't know, it was like they were the Martin, Luther, King and Malcolm of hip hop where these Titans is too we can't have too much of this control and that's something like that's a supremacy and that's another thing. But um yeah, if it feels very like in house of like no man, I'm gonna speed up and then gonna come back or what happened? No, no, no, get him, nigga what I don't know? Driver go around

the block real slogan. Yeah, and if I'm if Lake said, you're big young Puff, I'm in the car with you. Yeah. Why why am I in a different car? Why you guys aren't the president and the vice like you? My man's right, Like, but even in the interviews, like Puff put them on and Biggie's just like, you know, he's like in his god element to where he doesn't know he's got He's just like he just spit man like,

he just tells his stories. That's just like again, I feel like it's that Selina moment of like he is God and he will surpass me and I must take him down. Yeah, I must, like you know so yeah yeah yeah that whole car ship. Yeah that's another one I did not I forgot about that. Thank you. Okay, So let's take it a step further because apparently there was an officer, a detective named Greg Cading, who was assigned to work this case, the murder of Biggie Smalls,

for three years. He investigated the case and he personally believes that Puffy is responsible for Biggie's death bred some not great white man, I assume because he's a cop.

But still he believes that Puffy is responsible. And he's the type of trash white man that doesn't have power to outpower whoever wanted Big gone because white then white men have like that whole hey man shut all this down like like like right now, like like Irving is making a good stand, but that white man didn't pull up on him yet till we're like nigger, Remember when you put the hat on on stage, all that money

is ours. So if either you're gonna you're gonna get down to lay then like so yes, and I feel like he either got bought out or they they fucked up his evidence. And if you haven't, the lead detective have a fucking hunch on Puff. That's it. Thank you for bringing that back to I forgot about that too. Yes, well, let's let's unpack it has to say on this situation,

he says. And this is this is where it gets a little complex, and in in terms of his quote un responsibility as it is as it were in relation to Biggie's death. But he says that Puffy actually paid one million dollars to a crypt named Dwayne Keith. Keith D was a street named Davis to kill oh one of your family members? Uh, to kill both Tupac and Suge Knight. He paid Keith the one million dollars to have this this hit done now. Keith D then offloaded that responsibility.

He offloaded that job onto his nephew, another cript named Orlando Baby Lane Anderson to do the shooting instead, but his nephew only managed to kill Tupac so in, leaving Shuge Knight alive. Suge Knight, then, now aware of what's happening, hired a blood named Wardell Pucci Faus for thirteen thousand dollars.

They went from one million to thirteen k Wow, the niggers can't get ship right with one mile, but the only to kill Biggie And apparently thirteen was enough because one of them did the the whole job and the other one did not. And those guys were ever charged for any of the murders or they were just like in jail and died or something, or like they've just

been quiet, like yeah, So the great question. So now Greg Cading that that officer we were talking about claims that he actually got a confession out of Keith D. But because the other two alleged murderers were dead by the point that this confession happened, there was no way for him to bring closure to this story. Basically, these dudes died well before any accountability could be met in my only Keith D's word and no other evidence. It was to back it up. So it's just come on, dog,

come on, so ship. That even makes me go even deeper, like, of course Sugar's gonna retalied off of that. Now, maybe this could be strategic where Puff wanted this to happen, where he knows that's going to happen, where it's like, let me get a hit on them, and he probably did not know they were gonna miss. But what Krypniki gets a mill and then passes it down to his nephew. I guess he didn't want to get his hands dirty or bro, you got a million, like this is your job.

That was a weird hang up that I had in the story as well, like it's a million dollars and if you are the type of motherfucker that kills people, you ain't you ain't a million dollar checks in other places exactly unless he had a conscious and like, I don't want nothing to do with this, Like is that is that person alive? Like I have so many questions, but like all of it feel again, all of it is under the story of a hit ahead right ahead.

That Puff is definitely a part of Puffy's responsibility is that he is the original instigator of the violence between these two camps. That although obviously you know, if you you know anything about the East Coast West Coast beef, there was violence that happened before where Tupac was shot at the studios where Biggie records. Biggie is there that night.

He blames Biggie for what happened. There's a lot of violence that happens before this, but none of it is necessarily traceable back to these two camps, until, as this officer claims, Puffy decides that he's going to take action, same building, different levels huge misunderstanding, which majority of all how like, even when I got I fought Nigga's in the hood and running, it was like a misunderstanding. Nika thought I was talking ship and I was not. And

there it is now be fighting. It's like nobody's trying to hear nobody out. It's like action like yeah, I do, I kind of do want to plug getting like maybe a strategical on Puff, like hey, I can knock out two birds with stone get the money. But regardless, that's just yeah, he's in it, man. He the mand's got a little blood, definitely. Man definitely got the fingernails, man, and he got to live with that, you know, saying he gotta let's take it a step further, because that's

not the only quote unquote officer who says this. There's actually Similarly, a former FBI agent Phil Carson claims that the real target for the shooting the night of of Biggie Small's death was actually Puff Daddy himself. That they were not attempting to shoot Biggie Smalls. They were attempting to shoot Puff got the car's mistaken and that's why

Biggie Smalls died. Wow. Okay, So then he also claims that when Puffy discovers that this assassination, which was also as this FBI agent claims, brought on by Shore Night, he finds out that this assassination was was aimed at him, he gets terrified that the information might come out and he then pays off a number of l ap D officers to make sure that the case was never properly solved.

Holy ship, see dog, this is blowing my mind. Antwait, let us let this marinate, okay, because I can I can see puff as the narcissist he is of, like already know how people are gonna take this, and I need to do this MTV fucking Awards dance. I can't do the dance when niggas is an audience like mumbler, like now I don't know, nigga, Now I don't know. You pay the cup, nigga, Now you know he up this that? But what you want? So right, that's so

dirry legs, I need a shower, fu, bro, who does that? Manute? Like yeah so he So you ask somebody who's panicking racing their tracks and we're talking FBI like we've all seen the documents of what they did the King Jesus Christ, right, so they do not funk around on their tracks of what they're doing, like the the House of Hoover, fuck j Hoover. So yeah, I believe these guys. Man. Why would these white guys lie, why would they have to cover anything up like we're past, We're like thirty years

after the whole sixties and racist Hoover. Now these are like, these are FBI agents, Like all right, let's do a job, let's do odd jobs. Let me do it the best we can. And yes, to see that cops were paid off, which they're not gonna hold water on some rich nigger. They're not gonna hold that much water because it probably wasn't that much money. It's like, Puff ain't mafia, the samet BMF. But this is like, this is bad. He's offering a lump sum which is not going to solve

their problems for the rest of their lives. It's just like, hey, you buy your wife a nice dinner or some ship or maybe like a car. Here's a new Ford. Yeah you're going tonight. Yeah you know the new Cheesecake just opened up. Take your wife. Oh man, I just feel so filthy man fuck bro yeah yeah so yeah. So let's take it a step further, because we've only been

talking about white guys up to this point. There is, in fact another person, a former bodyguard of Puffy named Gene Deal Here we Go, also claims that he heard Puffy say that in a conversation relating to to sort of the building violence of the East Coast West Coast beef that Puffy says he doesn't give a fuck if Pock dies, he doesn't give a fuck if Big dies, something has to change. Quote, come on, dog. And that's

the bodyguards line. The right bodyguards are the little flies on the wall that people think they're not listening big gass flies, but they yeah, exactly, brother, Oh god. And then it just always brings me to that video that everybody sharing on Twitter Instagram of Puff going I get what I want. I'm a fucking monster. I get what I want and he got it. He got it way before that ship he got it. I don't gonna fun. Yeah,

he's a plain narciss is my nigger. I'm sorry, Like, if I go to that part, I mean him, I'll be faking ship like shake his hand like whatever. But like no matter fact, I wouldn't. I don't know, I don't think I don't want any of that energy. I'm lying. I'm lying. We're all morally compromised. Yeah right, yeah, morals versus money. Right, Like it's like, hey, what what what hell? Am I gonna stand on? Like in the spirit of the biggie or is it just like you know, we

just we just talking. We're talking on the podcast. Great episode so far. I love this. But yeah, see now look I'm questioning my morals right now, Like going to that door, I'm so torn, but because you think about your own career and everything. But then it's also like nah, man,

like there's evil there. Like even when you go to l A that like you know, I don't know if you feel his lengthen like it's that energy of like I won't kill any nigga here to get what like lucky for you, you you got a wife, you got your child, you got love, you got a nice love house. Like if you have that, you're protected. But I feel like single niggas and ladies and anybody they just like I

will slit what I gotta do. I'll cut. I'll cut your life saying to getting this motherfucking door store that's Hollywood door. And that's why I couldn't really like funk with l A like that to stay live over there. I could feel that energy in the air. Yeah, so yes, yes,

I don't I don't know what else to say. I mean we can break down where he said, like yes, he doesn't give a funk, like like I said, like so, and this is not necessarily evidence in relation to two Biggie himself, but there is other evidence of Puffy and morally compromised positions. I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice not to talk about the the Shine incidental, right.

Shine is the biggest rapper under bad Boy the next Biggie Smalls as they're sort of like trying to to coin him in the early two thousands, and then when they go to uh, what is it new York Club New York, It's called they go to Club New York, they're hanging out, Puffy gets into it. And this is according to Shine, years after he went to prison for basically shooting up a nightclub. Right that, Yeah, this story

like when he's a politician stuff. But this is like when he was still like kind of rapping, right, No, this is post rapping. This is him just talking to Fat Joe on like some Instagram ship. He basically says in the interview that the entire incident was mostly instigated by Puff, that Puff had issues with two dudes to Brooklyn based dudes who Shane knew to be real motherfucker's named Scar and Nino good names. No king characters, nigga. What we that Scar and Nigga? No, we got real

life versions of them, Brooklyn. Yeah, they they bout that noise. And that was Shine's point about these guys. He knew these guys, he was actually cool with these dudes, that he he had a relationship with these guys. But Puffy got into it with these guys, presumably over something that

he still doesn't exactly know. And then when guns got drawn, Seine pulled out his weapon in self defense basically as he put it, in fear of his own life, and started shooting, not because he was on some gang ship riding for Puff, but more like me, did not know that he was going to survive that evening ship, and Puff, as you may know, then after the incident, opted to get a separate lawyer to be tried separately from Shine, to basically separate himself as much as possible from what,

at uh nearly days before, had been the largest artist on his label. Bro we see that, you see the track record. This man is good and like Loki Sloppia, cleaning up his mess and making his seam and coming out the victim. Yes, signs of a narcissist, my nigger, Like he's a huge narcissist. I can see it. I know them signs and he uh and like Seine is

not one of them. There's other coins that just got thrown into the goddamn well like g dep you know r I P he gone and like what happened to his career ship the whole um loom one twelve black rob all that man, Like anybody that saw the locks have to like almost whoop this nigga ass to get out the contract the locks is too there's too many niggas, so he can't kill the clean let them go. And they're young because they're crazy, I can't let them let

them go. But he probably wouldn't did something grimy as ship. But oh my god, Yeah, is that the one with um Jennifer Lopez too, Like she got mixed up in with that, right. J Lo was hanging out that evening when the incident transpired. Puff craps her hand, runts her out of the club. Uh. It is also what some

claim is the initiating incident for their breakup. That's why that's why Jaylo with Batman that but she's scared she was she with Batman dogs like I'm gonna go and stick with these uh these whites sound I'm gonna go with Ben Athlete, these dunkin donut whites instead of these uh tat blacks. You know that's that's that, bro? Yeah man, Okay, the last piece of evidence that I'll bring up to you.

And this is less evidence and more just sort of a logical progression to to some of what may have ultimately landed on Puff's decision to and Biggie Small's life. There are some who argue that because of the change that Puffy saw coming in Bigg's career, as if you're a big fan, you know that after Ready to Die, he more or less had started to transition out of

the gangster wrapped phase in his life. He was less interested in sort of making the same kind of music, making the same kind of moves, being the same kind of hustler street dude that he was previously, and much more interested in making positive as close to positive as

the nigger from Brooklyn could make at that time. And so Puff theoretically is beginning to see the transition in Biggie Smalls and says that I'm not convinced that this is gonna be profitable, It might be more profitable to enter his life before he turns into this new god fearing man, and thus does so and keeps him at the stage that he left off at. Yeah, man, what I mean, Mike Drop, What more can I say? Doc? I mean, he's a He's a huge narcissist, narcissist planner,

and he can manipulate. He can manipulate his ass off. He manipulate the public and hide his evidence so much to where the public opinion will never be against him, and it hasn't. So now we have now we me and you and everybody were conspiracist, black conspiracis. But it's just like, bro, then it's in the pudding, baby, it's right there in the pudding. But he even knows that too, that it's so far down the line, like yeah, those

two guys dead. So that guy's just here, say the security guard, Like he probably can't he quoted, but you know, who knows what's happening to him. He probably got beat up or something that I for talking shit puff puff at that reach man, And he's still on top and remixing Biggie Ship and every goddamn year. We anniversary is his birthday, anniversary is death. He extreme hits more money

in his pocket. Absolutely, it feels like the same way that cities will will literally hire police officers to beat the ship out of black people and then make a street called Black Lives Matter Avenue. And it's like, I don't know, bro, this feels like, yes, exactly what it is. You're not exactly taking responsibility for the thing you did. That's why we're so angry. They never take responsibly. All we get his fucking documentaries and street names and money.

Never h I am sorry for going in the house of Brianna Ta or I'm sorry for even going back to um the guy that was about the Lucas Brothers movie that brother um oh goddamn yeah ship him. But the thank you, sir, thank you Fred Hanson, Like there's never apology, and you know this country doesn't even believe in apologies. That was another thing I read up on. They they feel like it's a sign of weakness even

when they're fucking wrong. So the only sorry we get, which is not enough to help our emotional scars, is an HBO documentary which who knows if that money even goes to the family that goes to production as me and you're in TV, so we know it's not like, hey, we're gonna tell your story and they're like, all right, well how much. It's like, no, we we're gonna tell your story. And we gotta buyer, and the buyer paid

the crew that did everything, and then that's it. So and then you know that that family gets sold on awareness. The fund is awareness going to do when it's already a wrap. It's over that my child ain't coming back. Man, this world, bro, but you know this is this let me this is good. This is good. This is good. There's a whole lot of biggest, smallest mirrors. Not a

lot of profit. Not out of those murals except for one person who seemed to be making the most money, a man named Sean did he ca can I add something us a little bit? This might be something also where it was not able to clone yet you know how they say like Chapelle came back. This is the clone Chapelle like after he went to Africa, he diesel

different heads and everything. Maybe in the nineties that they didn't have that clone aspect yet this is it's just crazy conspiracy ship where I'm like, hey, you know, they had to kill him. It had to be assassination because you get more money if they're going because that you could just see the gods here. But but hey, if we can like kill him and then put the clone back out there, then now we got Can you imagine

a clone Biggie. Now he's kind of skinnier, he's doing he's doing R and B. He's not he's he ain't got no more stories. You like slim sass commercials and they were were a helmet when you skateboard. He's he's so weird like Brooklyn's far Yeah, do the drown stones. Let let let Airbnb. Hey Airbnb, I'm Biggie, And what's the best I'm biggest, small shop, local shop, each of vegetables. And be quiet. That was so noisy because I don't

know why he's telling Mama, we're impressing my chees. Be quiet, Like, who is that? I apologize? Uh, yeah, that's exactly. So, yeah, that's something further where I think that clone aspect didn't I don't know, Yeah, because he couldn't clone Biggie, and so we had to let him die, had to let him down. They had to kill him to get more money. All right, we're gonna say one more break. We'll be back with more, Nori Davis and more, my mama told me. And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more,

Nori Dave this more. My mama told me. We're still talking about that goddamn killer puff. We need James. Somebody put them in the seat, hands behind you with your friends. Come on, man, he was this man's man. Let's play a game. We have a very fun game. This is this is our most classic game on the podcast, my absolute favorite game. It's a game called white Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me two white lies. It's

a fun game, Nori. Where I am going to introduce to you a commonly held white conspiracy theory, a conspiracy theory that white people tend to believe in quite a bit. And what I would love for you to do is tell me why you think this conspiracy theory is so important to them? What are they up to? What are these sneaky motherfucker's up to? You get it? I'm ready? Yeah, this one, cool boy. I can't remember if we've done this one before. I don't think we have but it's

a big one. It's a doozy. It's one of the most jarring classic conspiracy theories. I think that's out there. There are some people believe that the Holocaust never happened, that it is a myth, it is fake. Why do you think Nori white people are so committed to the

Holocaust being fake? That is classic white supremacy of not allowing the Jews to have any type of power, just be oppressed from being in the business of America because I guess what supremacy is like straight white male, blonde you know, hale hydra type ship like not even like that's what they are. And that's why they had to kill Hitler man because he was like he was sucking up America money. Like America's like, you look, I don't care about these Jews, black likes this, just get this money.

It was like, no, everybody must die, and yeah, you gotta kill this nigg even and then I was World War Two. But yes, it's the same thing of right now we're going through critical race theory where they're trying to erase our history of an education because they fear that the white kids will get beat up by the black kids. If they find out we'll really have about slavery. Blah blah blah. It's not more or less of fear of the Jewish kids getting beat up or like them

beating up white kids. It's more of like you're oppressed, we won't let you not. Niggas know like y'are not. You're not the prophet, you're not the ones. So oh okay, so not the one theory. If we allow the Holocaust to exist, or if we allow slavery to be as extreme as it it actually was in the Holocaust, to be as violent and horrifying as it actually was, then it does suggest that something is old to the people

who suffered that experience. And we're saying this is a way of making things more level for the white that want to stand supreme America. Yeah, and like so if like it never happens. So what you're talking about, No, you owe us because of Hollywood. I mean I owe you not. We're talking about what books? Is it? It's in the book right there in ninety the World History. Man. I don't know about that book. I ain't write that book. Who wrote that book? I'm right here standing on the

Capitol Hill. This is what we got we got the constitution. Look in the Constitution where say that? Where I say, please tell me where's say it? So I don't know what y'all niggas Jewish people, what you're talking about, how has never happened saving never happened out of here. So it's it's oppression. So like that's why they hold onto it. It's, um,

it's control. So like the white man can still be one, like little our founding files are still full white niggas up on that rock, right, And that's the thing about supremacies, Like, yeah, they like the allology of like the white man being the one, but capital is gonna cap Capital isn't gonna have to do anything because it's still about making money the most that they can without them working and uh being greedy. Yeah, that's and that's the makeup of theory.

These points of oppression and violence are going to hurt their pockets in some kind of way, yes, because it's not a guarantee for being able to make more money if you have to hold yourself accountable to race or community that you've caused damage to. Yeah, fun facing money, Yeah, it's like, um, you know, just like what companies now like you're a racist company, is just like, wait, no,

we're not. And then like they start losing money, so then they start playing phase like look at us, Chase that we're at the Pride, look at us not rainbows here, and it's just like it's bullshit, it's fake, you know what I'm saying, Like because they don't want to. It's just about money. Like people forget, like the bus boycott

only work because they was losing money. It wasn't because they cared about our skin and our face, our our life or many on those busses and being like black people, this ain't right what we're doing, man, this should be. I always love a diverse but I'm bust eight, all right, and I love to see Ms Charles in the bag and I tell her go to the back and sometimes she does, she doesn't, but you know it's color on here. Now. This is bullshit. We gotta change this, Captain Noah All

white busses. Yeah, that this was like taking rise. They was walking for like months and then they decide because they was losing. That's all this country care about money, bro. So if the Holocaust is real real, which it is, but if it's like something they have to admit Jews gonna pull up on something like no, we want this, we want that, and they're gonna they're gonna get it.

I mean should in Brooklyn City, Jews got like a whole part like damn of Brooklyn, and they got their own school bucks, they own cops and ain't nobody bothering them. So there's that, you know, has there been many black communities and one central party that happened, but you know, and that's why that supremacies holding on to that theory. Yes, sir, all right, well ship, that's cool. Motherfuckom oh my god, they gonna let me spill on my left. I ain't see that coming. I think we did it. I think

I think we did the whole thing. This, This was a lovely time. Could you tell the people at home where they can find you what cool ship you have going on? Yes? Yeah? Hit me up on Instagram at Nori Davis. November five, I'm in Boston and check out my latest tonight show a Parents on YouTube with Jimmy Fallon. Check that out, four minutes of funk on that motherfucker's so check that out. Share that ah yeah, and much

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