"Pu**y on the Hip" with Yassir Lester

But even when they would come out, you could still see a dork in them, you know what I mean, right, because a loser would be like, I gotta get on Ricky Lake to show someone who hasn't thought about me in twenty two years. You mean that this lady with the whole family, you're gonna yell at her because she was mean to you when she was sixteen. Girl, the fucker racists mostly money stuff you can't tell me. Yeah,

there it is. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a spectacular I'm Wonderful, a beautiful, big tittied episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we died Deep Deep go underground into the world of black conspiracy theories and we worked to finally prove that Jaden Smith can in fact talked to fish. That Nigga died his eyebrows blonde for a reason. Humans didn't tell him to do that. A fish told him that. A trout named Harold said, Jaden, you know what, I'm a fish. You should look more

like a fish. Make your eyebrows disappear into your face. We know you can talk to fish, Jayden, and we are going to prove it. I'm lanksty Kerman. I'm your host as always, I'm happy. I'm having a weird day. I'll be honest. Today I discovered that and I didn't know this, and I'm a very ignorant person. Apparently the phrase Siamese twins is racist. Had no idea this whole time. I just thought I never knew that that Siam was

a real place. I just thought that was the name that they picked for those twins that are stuck together. But as it turns out, we were driving, my wife and I driving past a restaurant they claimed to sell Siamese food, and I said, well, why are they selling Siamese food? What is Siamese food? Is that like when two chickens are pressed up against each other and they cook it anyway. I didn't know, and she said, no,

Siam is a real place. And then I said, oh no, that means that that word that white people came up with, it's just me. It was just two kids apparently born with their elbows stuck together. And then white people were like, all right, that's gonna be your country's thing forever and always name the evils of America. Well that covers that.

I'll tell you this my next guest. He ain't evil. He's a good guy. He's a lovely human being. I'm so excited that he's here. You know him from Oh Man, you know him from Black Monday, it's a hilarious show that he both writes on and has a part in. You know him from Duncanville. You know him from writing on Black am Huh. You know him from trolling Jimmy John's on the Internet. Because he told me, and I'm quoted here, he Fox with Subway and he doesn't think

Jared did it. That's what he said. I don't know. We'll find out more about that when I invite him on. Please welcome my hilarious desk. Mr yass lester, every boy. Yeah, let me let me clarify something. Sure, I didn't say Jared didn't do it. I said he did it. And I don't care a right Fair enough like me give me my five dollar foot loan. I was specifically the subway come back home. Look at cabinets on Wayfair. I don't care if a woman comes to me. I'm anyway.

My kids needs a cabine regardless. What's that guy's doing with me? Now you're talking about botuses. If you find a kid in your cabinet, you're gonna send it back now. Now you got a kid, You got a kid. And what they don't tell you is is that like you can also you don't gotta keep the kid. You don't gotta keep that. You can tell the kid and if that's to come up for you, you could do that. It's like you didn't pay nothing for the cabinet, right you. You could do the right thing or the wrong thing

with that. That's your choice. Why are you making this up an issue for Wayfair? They're just doing good business? Oh my god? Like first of all, and I know this is the conspiracy we're talking about, but I will say the thing that always cracks, like, especially with that one, I was just like you think you're the one who

cracked the case. What I'm saying all these people, I'm like, you think you think Wayfair didn't think enough to be like, Okay, let's name it exactly after murdered children or kidnapped children. Make it twelve thousand dollars, but no one will suspect the thing. I hope a fifteen year old doesn't come on the website and times like it's just so crazy.

It's so it is wild that they were like the biggest way to crack this code is I'm pointing out this one's named Rebecca, so there's probably a lady named Rebecca in here. It's like, I don't think I don't think that's how you if I'm gonna like kidnap a kid,

I'm probably not gonna do it that. But well it's like you're not the same name, the same name, like if any it's more to me, it reads more like, you know how like Disney animators are like all right, make sure the pastor has a boner made like it's like a like it's gross and weird, but like nothing, there's not kids behind the boards of Disney like you know, doing like weird sex stuff, right, it's to me, It's it's more like that, like it was just some weird

guys like I'm gonna name these I'm gonna name this after the lady I follow home and it's like, Okay, now you're weird for sure, but there's not a kid in there. You just got some ship to work out you Yeah, So anyway, that's great. I'm so happy you're here.

Dog good. Yeah, you know, me and you just worked together on the b T Awards, so there's a time catching up since then. Dog fine, I moved in the middle of this, which has been a nightmare. Okay, bro like, and this is gonna be on a racist tip, but I gotta say so hold on, wait a minute. That's how they get go ahead. So my girlfriend Chelsea who you know you worked with her on Hilarious Lankston Kerman was an actor on, so she hired move is for us.

They end up being Russian, which whateversion. You know what I'm saying, not ideal in these times, but here we are. It feels like they should like that. We gotta preface with you know, just so you know we're Russian, like gonna We're gonna come through with the accents and all that. And by the way, we were really Russian. We're like we're like old school, like you know, James Bond, Like you know, I don't own nothing but track suits. That's

that's the kind of energy I'm coming with. But like to the point where it was like an older dude who was balding and then like clearly like his nineteen year old son, and it was like one of those things where it's just like for the sun. I was like, well you do like working like one of them troll farms, like you know what, Like you're you're a moore, Like you know what I'm saying, Like you don't how to use a phone? Bro Like young entrepreneurial boy, you should

be you should be hacking our our government. What are you doing? You would have a better life back in Russia just sitting in one of them rooms, you know. Anyway, I digress. So they show up and like what would any other time be like, oh, Walmart gigantic like Walmart store size eighteen wheeler, like the gigantic ones. We have a one bedroom apartment or like whatever, it's unnecessary, but all right, yeah, they load up half my apartment. They're like all right, that's all we can fit for y'all.

And we were like what They're like, oh yeah, sorry, we have a whole other household on the truck, so we're just squeezing y'all on. It was just like all right, we gotta take this l. So that's so my point is, it's like we were so scared of them being Russian that we took the l on them being bad movers. You know, this wasn't based on like culture. This was just too bad movers who packed you guys in together? No, man,

that it was because here's the thing. It felt like, and obviously I'm gonna be real, this is where the race part comes. It's like it felt like they you that we couldn't say nothing because they're Russian. Yeah that makes sense, Like they kid. It was like a lot of like long looks at us and we're like, al right, just hired to grab it. You you both have very ethnic names. It's they probably looked at all the reports and they're like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we'll do whatever. Yeah,

we'll do whatever we want. Are we gonna give them their own truck? It was so crazy, But I was just like oh this is like their time, and like I mean it for you like online and stuff, Like I hate the argument that people are like Russians did all this. I'm like Russians planted seeds, but like Russians weren't at the voting booths, you know what I'm saying, Like they just convinced y'all. They were just sending out blasts and then if y'all wanted this to happen, yeah,

they didn't. They didn't do anything that specially, yeah exactly. It wasn't great. So like I'm usually just like yeah, Russia, blah blah blah, but this time I was like, oh, I feel like I know, I can't do nothing right now. First they came from my national election and I said nothing. Then they came from my furniture and I drew a motherfucking line. Oh my god, that it is so funny. Yeah, so yeah, that's I was. Yeah, I was. I was scared, but you know, goodness, that's all life is, ban dog.

I don't do nothing. I don't know, but I mean you're like out there exercising at all. I don't do nothing, run and then I come back inside. That's pretty much it. It ain't. It's not that deep. But you know, we gotta figure out ways to stay sane and all of this. I figured if I somehow could get buff before the industry opens back up and they have to talk to me different, then I'll have saved my career somehow. It's

not working, as you can plainly see. But I know, but your face is definitely because here's the thing you have, because are you You're a drinker. I drink. I used to drink a lot more Now I'm like very occasionally the alogracy. Okay, see, I was gonna say, as someone who used to drink and doesn't anymore, I noticed I can tell when people stop their face, and so I was gonna say that you stopped, Yeah, you stopped, or you're working out a lot. But it's probably a mix

of both as well. I'll take it. I used to be a fatty, Now I'm not what I can get. Speaking of fear, we're talking about fear. I had a little bit of nervousness going into your conspiracy theory. I'll be honest. Oh you have. You've presented one that arguably is one of our most challenging to enter into in today's era. In, but I'm very excited to introduce it because you were. You also were the fastest person of all time to respond to the question of what would

you like your conspiracy theory to be? No One, it's alwayst as if I'm always thinking about it. It felt like you had the email drafted already and we're just waiting for someone to ask what you're thinking about, Yasir, And you asked, and it's beautiful, you said, my mama told me Usha and Sierra used to be hermaphrodites. And boy,

oh boy, did my jaw dropped. And before we go any further, because I want to hear all your thoughts before we go any further, I want to be clear for our listeners at home that that word is not a word that we use for people. It is an outdated word. The correct terminology is inter center sex. Yes exactly. However, at the time that we were growing up, that was the word that that conspiracy theory sort of came out of.

I never heard the word intersex until like three years ago, and unfortunately, everybody was just running around calling Sierra and Usher hermaphrodites. So please, Yasner, tell me more about this

conspiracy theory. So so, and this is where we get into the like, this is where we get into the weeds of it a little bit, because so many conspiracy theories, as someone who genuinely loves them, yeah, so many conspiracy theories usually have a thread of like, oh okay, Like it's not that you can follow it perfectly, but you can tug on it and get back to where you started, right. This one truly the only thing, the only thing I can think of, because I really spent a lot of time,

and here's the thing I didn't. I wasn't as smart as to like go research it the only thing that they are. I wasn't reading your book, studying your science, because like, here's the thing. It's like it was I think, well, you know, and I hope this doesn't step on any other ones, but we're roughly the same age. I'm a few years older than you. But this conspiracy theory hit the ground running around the same time as Marilyn Manson had his ribs removed, so he, you know, give himself head.

And then that little Kim backstage one night, you know, gave blowy Jay's to so many dudes. She had to get her stomach pump. So like, so it's like number one is like a sixth grader who has no concept of sex as is like you know, like I feel like sixth grade girls get it because they have to, Like we just live in a society sadly that like if they don't have the knowledge, dudes take advantage of them.

And these usually older men blah blah blah. So like usually thank goodness, women have like a better a better grasp on these things sex until and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I feel like no man knows anything about sex until he actually has it. Like it doesn't matter how many books you've read, it doesn't matter how many stories you've heard. It's once you're actually in the act, you're like, whoa there, we have no concept of like where things actually go or what

it's supposed to feel like it's just all theoretical. And then you get inside of a person and you're like, okay, yeah, all right, let's take it easy. I think I get it now. Even then, and even then I would say, like I think at like time number ten, it's like you're like, oh, I got it, Like well, that's why we're also trash at it in the beginning because we

didn't know anything to start off with. And then that's tacked on top of the fact that we're not smart enough for intuitive enough to figure it out quickly, you know what I mean, Like men are We're not sitting there studying and figuring it out. We're just like looking at it and being like, oh, that's different than I thought. And then we like, you know, run and go, come and try to figure it out again the next time. Oh god, um, so as you know, as you so

eloquently stated, So it's like you don't know anything. So it's like not only that, not only do you not know anything about the act like being intersects. It's a very that's a very nuanced conversation, even for even for the most expert mind in terms of like what that means not just for the person, but for society at large, you know. And then like the Marilyn Manson thing, it's like you clearly don't know enough about anatomy to know

that that's impossible. It's that didn't help that much. It didn't. Yeah, and then it's like pray, it's just like you didn't extend to your spine. You got rid of the other part that if you couldn't do sit ups before, you're not like doing them better because your ribs are smaller, Like, that's not the issue here, bro. So that would be funny if you just saw a dude with like a fourteen pack. It's like, oh, I got I got my ribs removed, our river removed, and now I'm super buffin

stay wet, don't matter who's sucking it. I got my dick wet. It's so sad. So So anyways, as I was saying about tracing the threat, the only thing I can truly truly think of is that they are both phenomenal performers and dancers and are like for the sadly for the sierra of it all is that she, especially at the time, was so toned and so like, you know, like because there's the thing. It's like, Jenna Jackson was that toned, Angela Bassett was that toned, and like those

conversations never came up. But I just think that they were already in like they were already in the world. Well, you know what, to your point, it wasn't just that

she was toned. She also was like hanging out with bow Wow, So she was taller than that's right, and so it's like, oh, this big, strong, tall lady and she's not even that tall, but at the at the time it was five seven, she was like six eight and muscular, and so a bunch of high school kids were like, this bitch got a penis, which is like so so like because it actually it spotlighted on us

shore and then went to see you. And it was just it was one of those things again that like the usher of it all never made sense other than

I think my theory. You know, I went to very on to very hood schools till till high school, and uh so there's like all like middle school stuff, and it was truly it just felt like one dude hated that his girl like that, and he just told everyone that he was half girl, which is so crazy, but already gotta pussy on his hid, so fu him because that's also the other thing that like was so especially as you you know, get older and learn about people's bodies,

but like the thing that they used to always throw around and be like, actually the clip is a penis. Actually what his penis was a click and Sierra's clip is a penis, and you're like, what is where to God, You're like, yeah, that's true, and you're like it can't be okay, but at you know, at sixth grade. You know, in the sixth grade, you're like, oh my god, right,

your whole world, your whole world is crumbling. And then you're thinking about the one crew drawing that they show you in textbooks and you're like, well, it did kind of look like a tiny little dick and I don't know what to do, and you nailed it again. Because it's like this is also the rise of the Internet.

Like this is when like the Internet first hit schools, and like there was no way to block anything, right, Teachers had no idea what like a fire wall was like you could just you can do whatever you want. And also it's like so much of the internet truly owes what it is to pornography, Like yeah, pornography built the Internet, and so because of that, you could find

all that stuff easier. Like I remember, truly the first two things I ever saw online were a porno site and then cartoon network dot com pictures of Dexter's from Dexter's Lab that you could print out and color yourself. Those are the first and then the third thing I did was print out Bone Thugs and Harmony lyrics. I put them in a binder. I love that, I do love. I hope it happened exactly in that order. That first

first you watched them porn. You came and then you came to your sense and you were like, you know what I that that was a line I need to color. I gotta color something. I love Dexter's Lab. I'm gonna color. I can't color without music. Who did I listen to? Of course Bone Thugs and harm And you sat there and you colored Dexter and you listen to Bone Thugs and you you let your your come soak into your pants. Well, here's this is even sadder. Thing looked that point is

at the school library. It looked at moren then got scared and then downloaded the Dexter's Lab thing and then printed, but then went home and then you know, thought about porn clearly, right, So the Dexter's Lab was more sort of like to cover up your your tracks, right right? I just because I remember I didn't know what the internet was, and I saw this commercial that was like go to cartoon network dot com and download a picture of Dexter, and I was like, what I gotta do that.

If the TV's telling me to do it, I'm taking Nexter. Oh my god, I do. I totally agree. I do think that so much of this came out in an era where there were no The Internet was sort of like the wild West. It was like Deadwood almost, just like a lawless town without any organization, and there was nobody to fact check anything, Whereas now, if some sort of conspiracy like this were to come forward, it would

be immediately at least refuted, if not fully dismissed. There'd be a hundred people being like, no, shut the funk up, that's not true. Here's proof of that thing. But we were kids and they were just like, you know what, you gotta dick under there, and we're like, yeah, I don't know. I actually didn't know, because truly, back in the day, like someone telling you something was equal to books.

This presentation. I would like to cite Steve. Steve told me that if you turn to Steve first eight, he mentioned you know what I'm saying, someone could just be like because I mean truly, like if you were in a classroom and someone ran in and said, like someone bombed the CNN center down down unless you like got to the news immediately you just because also most people back in the day didn't lie about stuff like that for the most part, you know what I'm saying, people,

I mean, people clearly lied about like assurance, SIRA being intersecting, like, but like mostly people, it's just like news was news. Yeah, there wasn't as much of a trend of like doing it for the trolling wasn't the same thing. You were actually actually crazy if you were doing something like that. And now it's a little more of a gray area where it's like you either are crazy or you're the funniest motherfucker I've ever met in my life. I don't

always know which one. Yeah, So like when someone told you something, you were just like all right. I mean because it's also if you think about it's probably low key. How like every religion started, it was just something being like this is what happened. You went all right, okay, so follow you. Hey, y'all, Hey, Steve said some stuff, so I'm gonna follow him. I'll cite him occasionally if that'll help the group. I didn't have to ask is it a long line of Steve's or is it one

Steve who's been eternal. I like to think it's a generational thing. Steve and then Steve the junior and Steve the first and go down the line. All right, I like that. Yeah, all right, We're gonna take a break and then we'll be back more. Yes, more. My mama told me we are back. Ye. Anyway, so we're back, baby. We are back here with Mori Yaza Lesser and we are still talking about the history of the sex of both Usher and Sierra and where that all comes from.

This is the question I wanted to ask, did at any point, Well, first of all, who specifically do you remember telling you this? Or is there a person specifically? Like a group of dudes, but I'll be gladly to say all named names. So they also here's the thing, and I this is like such a weird detail to remember. It was all the tallest dudes in my grade. So it was like it was all the dudes who were like,

you know, five, ten and sixth grade. One of them was named I swear to guy, his name was Britain, but it was b R I T T O N and like he only wore he was just like it was crazy because he wasn't particularly good looking, but he was just like so fresh, Like he was always like I don't know if this made it to Chicago, but just always like an Apollo and like some like Tommy Hill figure like Carpenter Gene like some rebox. He was just always losty like that. Then there was this other dude, Timmy,

who like less fresh wrong. They were like trying to figure it out, but he was he was like six three, Like they were trying to figure out how to have him play for like the high school team in sixth grade, likes like crazy. They were trying to do that that thing that people do with like Dominican kids, right yeah, yeah, truly him up instead of bump him down like he's yeah. So it was it was Britain and Timmy and then the last dude was Edward and Edward I remember, like

so Edwards was like so many weird. I'm gonna leave out the dude the last dude names because I don't want to put him on blast, like Edward's kind of Edwards cousin. The cousin's dad broke out of prison while you were all on school, Like we were at school and like a news bulletin came up and they were like so you know, like they like said a dude and the kid who it was like started crying and we were like, nigga, this is incredible, Like your dad

got out of jail. Congratulations. Yeah, he's like, no, I'm the one that put him in. Oh God, to kill me. Why are y'all cheering? Please stop this? Oh my god, that would have been worth it. But so then the last dude was Edward, and Edward was always wearing a Reggie Miller Indiana Pacers jersey. Those were the dudes they like, they're like Loki like mobbed on me, like just like rolled up on me and was just you know, ushers or her Ma Like I didn't I didn't know that.

But I mean, like, if you're telling me to tell people like you guys seem like cool dudes, I repeat yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, look man, I got no call him about repeating something that just heard from three people that barely talk to listen. I've be't figured myself out enough to feel confident to tell you know that's not true. So yeah, I'll go tell more people and will create a violent and dangerous atmosphere around this school and more so for people that

are struggling with their inter sexuality. So thank you, thank you for choosing me to be your mouth. Oh and then for high school, it was because that's when the Sierra thing was happening. Thank or maybe right before, but it had to have been mohomie Mark or mohomie Eugene because they were because they were most likely was Eugene, Like we all worked at McDonald's together, and uh, Eugene, like Mark was from Detroit, so he and he had like the older brother who rapped, and like we were

always just like trying to get Mark. He was like varsity basketball freshman year high school. Like man, like Mark is doing it, you know what I'm saying. But like I was the weird kind of like art kid who was trying to be funny, and then Eugene was just like this spacey like weirdo. Anyway, so those are people that told me about it. And like again, like I'll say this, the Usher thing I fully believed. I just like fully believed it from the job. The Sierra thing, Right, Well,

that's fascinating. I'm gonna jump in here because that that actually is really fascinating to me, because it wasn't one that I think that I heard when I was growing up. Oh interesting, I had heard a lot of speculation about his sexuality and Jim, but not a lot about like the possibility of him having you know, multiple sex sex organs. But I will say that it fits within a a world of theories that you know what I mean, or a type of theory that made perfect sense to me.

So it wasn't me reading that and going get the funk out of here. It was more like I could see that. I can see how we as kids would have accused him of being intersex or whatever. We you know, hurtful word we were back then. But even in you know us your no, you got a cybees ding dong. That's right. They fused together. Man, you don't want to

tell nobody because he's say it helps his dancing. That's how he danced so good, because that's all that's part of it, which is so crazy that they were always but that's how he could do that so good. That's just like I'm sorry him having both like anyway, sorry, no, it helps him move his hips in a way that

a man never should be able to. So crazy, But so with that most of the research that I attempted to dig up about this, there's not a lot about Usher. It just there isn't a lot, Whereas with Sierra, there's a ship toun of her literally having to go on interviews, multiple interviews, and deny the possibility that she's intersect And the worst part about it is, and I didn't realize this until I'm like digging all this stuff up, she

was fucking seventeen. She was a child. This was a child being like ha ha ha, nah No, I'm not a boy and a girl mixed together, like y'all say over and over again. Anyway, here's my song good. He's about having sex with an adult man that was written

by by an adult man, Jazzy. But here's what I'll say that I feel like, not to say that it's proven, but I feel like the part that we can take from this is that this is all the Usher thing is so infancy Internet that and then remember I was like, I think it was just the spotlight was taken from

Usher then flashed on us. I think that I think that that's the through lines you can follow, is that like, as that rumor went on, they just attached it to whoever they could, and she just happened because I was like, what two thousand to two thousand, two thousand four is when she came out, And I think it was pretty immediate that people like this is not a traditional quote

unquote traditional woman, whatever that means. I will say that even because I don't know enough, and because I felt like this is important, especially in terms of this subject, I wanted to dig up exactly why hermaphrodite is a problematic word, right, And so what I uncovered is that basically hermaphrodite is not actually a thing that happens in

a human person. That here, hermaphrodite refers to a organism that's able to hold both genitals or like a male and female sex organ at the exact same time equally, which doesn't actually happen in humanity, right. Intersex people actually is more complicated than that, Like you said before, it like ranges from anything from like a person who has just like undefined genitals, a micro penis and enlarged clitterists.

Labial fusion is one of the things undescended testicles or a labial mass which they you know, if they dug under their I guess they could find testicles underneath. So it's a bunch of ship that sounds like me, I personally connect with the labial man. Keep digging, keep digging, You're gonna find what you're looking for. So it's like all these why so that even the implication that like, these two people are sort of this same thing is like a super ignorant thing because they could be a

million different kinds of intersex. But it's also like, and

you know, there's two things that play. A it's a child learning the concept of what hermaphrodite is in terms of whatever attribute that is to to an animal or organism, right, learning that and then being reducing it to like, oh, that would be like if a dude had a dang dong and had a little and had a vagina, that would be And you're like, that's it could not be more wrong, Like that's what it is, right, teacher, I hear you, But I'm also I'm hearing what I'm saying,

and what I'm saying sound more like what I like to say, so I'm gonna go with it. So it's like you have that already at play, and then the concept that like and I'm not saying this would be funny that let's say the I don't know what the most common form of inter sexuality is, right, but let's just say we just take the most populous form of intersexuality is right, that two of them would make it as R and B stars dog, it's like such a

crazy saying. So that's the other thing that Iron covered is that that intersex people only represent one point seven per cent of the population. So the fact that it's already impossible to make it to that little celebrity, but two of them would, under the dark the cloak of night make it to that level. And you a nigga who's on the internet coloring Dexter's lab pictures uncovers this

truth about her is insane. It's white. Yeah, it's uh, but it makes me lacking. I'm just like, oh, just like, it doesn't matter if it was, if it's twenty and two thousand, two nine six. It's just like niggas have just been bored forever. We just needed something to talk about, anything, to talk about, anything other than learning that that little girl's got broad shoulders. Let's say that she's, uh, she's

a man. Now. It's like now she's probably just growing into her body and also very talented at the exact same time, but also like and here's what I'm saying, like again, not to speak on I don't want to speak on traditional gender norms, but in the realm that we are existing right in a business to music business that relies on gender norms at the time, at the very least at the time, Sierra is just because she

has nice shoulders. She's one of the most hyper feminine people who's ever list sure, like outside of like wearing a white blazer, it's like a very dude, he's a buff man. Yeah, It's like so crazy that we've picked truly like the the ends of the spectrum for a hyper femininity and masculinity, and we're like, both of them have both parts. Next questions. If anything, if we needed a starting point at our most ignorant level, we could

have said RuPaul, who already was playing the line. But instead we were like, who's that motherfucker that that looks like a man and talks like a man and dances like a man. That's a lady. It's like, do you do why I think I said he's part lady? Next question? Okay, but stop prowling at me when said it. She part man, you heard what I said, put the record all told me when she talked about Roland Nigga's left, you know,

sound part nig and the way she's saying that. So one of the things that I think is hugely fascinating from this whole thing. And like I said, Sierra, So with part of the Sierra argument was that number one that the claim and maybe you heard this, was that not only was she intersex, but that she had announced it on the Oprah Winfrey Show. That there was like this hidden episode where like Sierra had come out and like said like, hey, Oprah, I am in a an

intersex person and this is my truth. The episode does not exist, but everyone claimed to have seen this episode, and everything that I uncovered was like a bunch of people being like, yeah, my cousin said he saw the episode. It was wild, it was crazy. It's like, get the funk out of here. Because that's also a holdover from pre internet, is that it was because that's also the

Tommy hill Figure thing. Remember that exactly what I thought about. Yes, they were like and then Tommy hill Man, Tommy hill Figure went on the Open with Your show. He said he was niggas never wear his clothes. Everyone. He said, if he's a nigger and his James Hill shoot him in the street. It's like, Tommy Hilliger never said that. But you're also like the dude who's first and only model for a very long time was Aliyah Aliah is

literally responsible for the successful Tommy Hill figure. But like, it's just so weird that we can say back in the day, you could say anything and be like, what happened, Like, oh, it is on Oprah, And maybe that's why she's an op Yes, Oprah let a bunch of I love this, Oprah let a bunch of bullshit ride because she wanted more ratings and more attention, and she was willing to let the black community tank itself for the sake of entertaining white people and letting her fake stories sort of

circulate to make herself more popular in the white community. It's yeah, now that we're on this, I'm like, oh, that's exactly what happened. Oprah probably started all this ship. Yeah, every hey tell him Tommy Hill was just on the show, and that's the era that she got a ding dong

hiding in the past. Make sure you mentioned the Oprah Winfrey Show every Tuesday at eight m. Because it's also like I'll say this, like Oprah had wild moments right, like she had the clan on and like you know there was ship just to that bigger moments, but it wasn't Jerry Springer or Jenny Jones. Like the chances that two major things happening on her show and no one song, it wasn't at least news. That's the thing that we

just we just forgo or four went to the news. Yeah, you know that was just like well, you know, he said that he's knows someone who saw it, and it's just like like we all wouldn't. Everything else made it to us, right like any other Like the Mark Ferman tapes made it to us, like so many things, so many things that that was a home video shot in

the dark in nineteen what whatever it was. There's a reason that all these things make it to us, and it's because they existed, not because like there's some secret conspiracy not to show us the Lost Sierra tapes. God, I mean, I wish I was better at deep fakes, because it would be funny to just do deep fakes of Tommy Hill figure on Oprah and Sierra on Oprah making their little announcements. I found them. I found that.

Everybody said they weren't real, but I found the tape that's so funny, so okay with the Usher one one

of the more fascinating parts of that, because like I said, I wasn't finding a lot of information about any accusations about him being intersex, and even accusations feels like a weird turn in this case, because it's, yeah, sure you're a smarter man than I am, the right words, but so it all, as far as I could tell, and

this was my own digging. As far as I can tell, most of the accusation or sort of like criminalization of Usher came out of exactly what you said, which is, this is a dude who sexier than me, and I don't like how that feels, so I'm going to undermine it. And then in two thousand and ten, he does that song with Nicki Minaj a Little Freak. I'm sure you know the lyrics. Of course, to back uh, he talks about being bisexual. It certainly like hanging out with bisexual

people and like group sex and that whole thing. And in an interview afterwards with MTV. They asked him, like a Usher, are you into group sex now? And he's like His response was basically like, you know, I get into it from time to time. I like hanging out with bisexual people. And that's when the Internet is like, Oh, this motherfucker up to something he ain't. Oh he he on some dirty, nasty, filthy ship, which I think then spawns because of our homophobia and transphobia and all the phobias.

It moves into Oh he's got multiple like sex organs and his body kind of thing. It's crazy, I mean. And here's what I'll say. Granted the news didn't hit until, like, you know, four years ago or something, but if we had known Usher was getting all them poor ladies sick back the day, there's no way we would have assumed he was intersex. Like he's just not. He's just given.

He's given every woman he needs herpes what you What we would have accused him of was being a bad guy, and then that would have been the excuse for why our girls shouldn't have sex with him. It's like, not, you don't want to fun Usher, he's a bad person. You want to, You want to your skin to turn green, he's got diseases. Girl, girl, stick with me. I can't move walk sideways, but I'm pretty good. Look, I can't move walk sideways, but I promise you'll get home safe

and healthy. You won't cough tomorrow. So I'm glad you brought that up because in two thousand seventeen, just for anybody who doesn't know, Usher got sued for twenty million dollars because a woman and then three people after that accused him of giving them herpies without notifying them ahead of time, that he knowingly gave them herpes and didn't tell them, which is a crime. Which they never proved

that he had herpies or that they had herpies. In fact, I think that one of the women they proved she did not in fact have her pies, but was just saying it and letting it ride. But I didn't realize this, and this is a very fascinating element of it, is that one of the accusers of the four was a man. Had no idea. Really, yeah, there was a dude in that group, and he never revealed his name or his identity.

He went by John Doe, as they do in you know, court cases where you don't want to keep your identity secret. And so I think that that just added to like sort of this weird dance of like what the funk is going on with Usher? And so there's all these different historical moments that people refer to when they talk

about Usher sexuality. For example, his ex wife to make a Foster in two eleven tweeted after their breakup that gay men, quote unquote gay men who look and act straight should identify themselves with bright wrist bands, which who boy, I hate when I hear an idea that I had. She was like, clearly, you're tripping. This is wild. That is so fun. It's just like also like you know, the Holocaust to happen. Yeah, that like we just as a species, we shouldn't do things to identify different Just

leave it alone. You just gonna have to guess. And you know, there was a small part of her that was like, well, I'm not putting patches on their shoulder, I'm just wristbands tattooing them. I just want a wristband

so that they don't trick me. But that's why I don't like the logic of it, because it's like, you know, the easiest thing to get offs a wristband, like you just cut them off like the gay Like these secret gay agents aren't just able to take the wristband off in the morning after a nice shower, Like what are you talking about to make a well Also just like it's just like I don't I don't want the world to know I'm gay or bisexual, but I gotta put

all my wristband. You know. That's what Tomka says. You know, Tamka Foster Usher's ex wife. So but see, that was another thing that I remember pointed to about the conspiracy of us was just not even the intersex thing, but of his sexuality. It's because Tamika was older than him by like ten years or something, and people are like, no man loves a woman years older than him unless

he gay. You're like, are you sure? Like every time everybody like someone older than him he gave something wrong with his brain would be like a woman that old, look at it, what is she in our mid to late thirties, She's done. It's so sad, okay, So that that happens. Then in two thousand thirteen, I believe it is. Did he does an interview where it's one of Diddy's parties, and this is one of those where he starts videotaping the parties and he has Kevin Hart hosting this party

and he's interviewing with Kevin Harden. Usher walks into the building and he's so happy to see Usher, and he starts talking to Kevin on the microphone with Usher and he says out loud in the interview, he says, I love this this dude, he's my bro. We used to wake up together, I mean damn. Pause. And then everybody just started laughing because Diddy had implied that him and Usher used to sleep in a bed together as partners. That one's that's hard. That's a stretch for me a

little bit. It's it's not evidence of anything, right, because I would just assume it was just like even my head went to, oh yeah, like a hard night of party and you wake up and it's just like, oh, there's Diddy over there. Like I didn't. It's like he was like and then I woke up to the soft, the soft woreth of his breath on my neck I mean,

damn pause. And then Usher he used to kiss me real slow, and he would say good morning, Papa, and I would say hey, uh oh, damn, you caught me, Kevin Harsh just like, okay, naive, where are you all right? Get over here, I'm a tweet about this and get in trouble to how about how about a smash the dollhouse over both y'alls? Hey, okay? And then the last one. And this is this is one of my favorites. Is that in they as Jenny McCarthy, of all people in

an interview, why are they interviewing Jenny McCarthy. I have no idea. Why are they asking her questions about Usher? Even less clear, but in an interview with Jenny McCarthy, she was asked if she thinks Usher is attractive to what she responded by saying, is he for sure? Straight? Is he by? I think he's hot? I would definitely be interested. I would have that unsure flag of which team he plays for. For real, guys that are really well kept like that and aren't really with that man

need chicks. I tend to have a question mark because

I remember and I don't. I don't know about you, but I remember because I moved to l A in two thousand five, and that was like I was from Georgia whatever, But that was like the I feel like peak Zenith like quote unquote metro sexual movement, right, and the whole idea when you really, you know, reduce it to its core, was that like if you're a man and you shower, have a T shirt that ain't wrinkly, you half I'm sorry, what like if you got a haircut and the best we could have half you want

of these half gay niggers running around got secrets? Motherfucker? Like like so because like that's like her saying that, And it's like, first of all, when we talk about problem with white women, it's like the woman who lied on Emmett Till and then Jenny McCarthy. She's like, it's right, they're the same to yeah, she I mean you fucking she did the vaccine. She's like one of the source

materials all her. And the thing is that, like it was bad information and bad science coming from a blonde hair, blue eyed, white lady with big breast like who's already had some semblance of fame and who had a child that's afflicted not from the thing that she's saying, but because she can point to that every white person believed her, She's she is lit to your point, She is literally the most dangerous weapon that the white community could pull

out in those circumstances. She is both victim and big, tittied and blonde. She can go crazy with whatever she wants to say, and she did. And so like the idea that like some one who is so not just on the wrong side of history, but just like actually in their soul and then their atoms is incorrect, Like she's not. She's not built the way a human is built, in the sense that like, I feel like her molecular polarity spends opposite of us, you know what I'm saying,

Like it's just like you're so wrong on everything. And so it's like the fact that she went on TV again using the weapon of blue eyes and breasts and blonde hair to be like, oh he must be. Then of course everyone's gonna now is going to question it, and she made it popular in a way that it should and ending it with he's too well kept, that's crazy. But yeah, well I think we agree Jenny McCartney is

uh spawn of Satan, And yes, yes we do. We're gonna take another break and then we'll be back with more. And my mama told me we are back yeah, ah, we are back here. Oh that is I mean, sincerely, in in the grand scheme of heartbreaking things to have ever happened, I don't think there's ever a point where I got to enjoy it the way other people did. Like I was just like, oh, I was just like, oh no, this young king has to do this, you

know what. And I feel bad about it now, but I legitimately thought it was the funniest thing I had ever seen in my life. And then other people had to be like, hey, you know that's not good, right, you know, like he's he's really gonna struggle for the rest of his life because of what he just announced him from of five thousand people at a church. I

was like, Nope, this Nigga's hilarious. Here's what I'll say, because to pretend that I didn't laugh, Like I was pretty on board with, like, yo, like this is heartbreaking until he went women women, women, and I was just like, you didn't have to do that. Bar Well, he's a showman, show so good. I still check in on him on Instagram. Yeah, he just got in that fight with the lady at

the Black Lives Matter around He's still working. Yeah, I will say I appreciate him in the sense that he's just like he's not like what's her name, bad baby or whatever, or it's just like you try to like make a whole new career or whatever. Do like but I do like that. He's like, y'all not gonna forget about me, right, you know. He's like, I'm just gonna keep being myself. But now I get what myself is,

Whereas I totally agree. I the bad babies of the world are like a gross human being who then tried to did a bad thing and then tried to manipulate that bad thing into a completely different career that you didn't deserve and should not have. She's just like, no, I'm gonna keep yelling at people and it'll be under different contexts and perhaps you'll like that. Good for him. I'm proud of him. Okay, now we're gonna play a

fun game. This is a fun game. It's a brand new game, and I'm very excited to debut with you. This game I have coined and it's a game that I've come up with and I'm very excited to introduced. It's called Langston's sister Jia, who's ten years old, describes new conspiracy theory she uncovers on tiktoki. Yeah, so this

is how it works. I'm gonna play you some audio clips of my sister explaining a conspiracy theory to me, and I just like for us to unpack exactly what she's talking about, what is she what she's stressing about, And keep in mind she is genuinely afraid of what's happening in these clips. She is not at all doing this for a prank or for some silliness. She is ten and she means it. Okay, here we go. Okay. So by thing about Chuck E Cheese is that I

don't trust nobody more. I've heard too many stories about them. They're basically as saying that as a strike of midnight, the robots get off there stands and start walking around seeking for children to eat or to just torture them. All right, yeah, there your thoughts on the U. So I just have to be clear she's afraid that the plot of Toy Story and Mannequin U exists only at

Chucky Cheese. Cheese is empty, strike closed, and so they just go around me like, oh, if there's a spare kid in here, we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna wait. It was either eat or torture or torture. It depends on the kid in the day, I guess, uh, and which mannequin I guess catches them or whatever. I don't know, but yes, at the strike of midnight they come alive and they eat and or torture kids. Also, like, does she know that they've they've gone under chuck E Cheese? Yeah, no,

she has no idea. She thinks that Chucky Cheese is the most thriving business of all time. As far as she's it's her favorite place. So she's like, nah, Chucky Cheese is dope, and I hate to find out. It's as if your favorite person got canceled for do you know what I mean? Like it's your hero going down. And she's like, funk, I love Chucky Cheese. But I'm

hearing about these robots eating and kidnapping children. But again, like this is it's like the wayfaier thing that I want to like, as wanna hold your sister and be like, it's not gonna be you that figured this out. You're not the one. And I will say that she's she's smart enough to know that she's not figuring out she but she doesn't know who to trust on the internet, so she, like us when we were kids, is just subscribing to these people who then tell her something wild.

And she's like, hey, y'all, I got some bad news. I'm hearing from JELSEI thirty three that that they're kidnapping kids at Chuck E Cheese. I'm hearing from Chuck E Cheese hater that some wild things are happening at Chuck E Cheese. Why would he say, okay, just the last thing real quick. It's just like the idea that people still go yes like that. She's like, oh, I got you know, like I can't go. Other people go. But because you're done't think that stroke of midnight thing you

gonna catch not today fail. Okay, I'm gonna play you some more, because she goes on to describe exactly because I was very curious, how is it that these people are are these Chucky Cheese robots are coming to life? And she explains that as well. They just found a man that was downstairs doing like spells and voodo on

the robots for them to kidnap children. He was using a Luigi board plus he had like this circle and he was sit in the middle with candles, and it was very dark and spooky down there, and he would just sit in the middle and start doing his things. Ah, here's the thing. If you were going to bring robots to life, that is how you do ye. So she's not it seems as if this isn't a dig. It seems as if whoever told her the story, wherever she had it from, they didn't have the vocabulary for pentagram.

Yet clearly that's what she's describing. They didn't know, they didn't know like the actual terms of witchcraft, so they were she was just like, yeah, they got a wegi board and some candles and a circle and a circle.

So it's also like the other thing you want to say is that like usually for like the demons and like the Satanic you know, conjurors, it's like they're pretty efficient, Like they're not bringing Augi board and the pensigram like you know, it's like they it's usually one thing, like they either got like a pencilgram with like a book of spells, or they got like Augi board with like a book of spells. But like then maybe like you know,

like a lock of hair or whatever. But like we just need her to know that's like overkill, like if you got to bring thick, your thick, your your method to whatever madness you're trying to create. Because the other question is is are they putting souls into the into the robots? Is that what she thinks is happening. Is that how they're transferring souls from hell or they're just

bringing them to life and they're just bloodthirsty. Yeah. I just think that she thinks there just they become become alive. I don't think that the concept of like the transference of a soul is even that's a little too sophisticated for so for her, it's just like they are not alive, and then a man in a basement makes them alive, and then they seek out children to eat and or torture.

Got you all right? Cool? All right? I'm gonna play you the last clip, and this one, I think is when she explains the Chucky Cheese employees handle what's happening with these kidnappings and these robots. Oh wait, so the way the Chucky Cheese people are aware of it, just

real quick they are. In fact, she'll she'll explain it all okay, perfect, Well really, there was another person who found an article about how it said that the workers when it turns midnight, they have to go put it on like a little cute, chucky cheese outfit, because if one of the robots sees you working there and it's midnight, they're basically come and hurt you or murder you. But if you wear the costume, they'll think you're one of them,

so they won't attack you. And what they're attacking you for is they think you're like a robber or someone that's trying to mess with the play store. And when you walk up towards one of them, they always look down at you because there's a hidden camera, I guess in one of their bodies, so they can scan you whatever to make sure you're not guilty of anything. Does

that make sure you're not guilty of anything? I? First of all, this is she is adorable in a way that like that is so cute, and it's like I just haven't heard a child talk earnestly in such a long time, Like it's so sweet to hear even though it's like, you know, oh it's haunting. I'm not able to get her to stop believing me. But yeah, it's real cute that she thinks it's real. But okay, because I also the other thing to ask her is, at this point, everyone knows at midnight the robots come back.

Everyone knows there there apparently have been articles written and it's not in these clips. But she also explains that the part of how they uncovered it was they found fingerprints of children on the windows leading towards the basement, unrelated to the fingerprints they might find of children any other time it checked on a slide at a booth. These were apparently clearly kidnapped fingerprints. That's opposed to other thing. So there's also windows in the basement. I guess, so

I don't. Hey, I'm just a reporter here, okay, Yeah, I mean, thank you number one for bringing us to light in a way that I never would have guessed. Because the thing that's funny to me is that now the robots are sophisticated enough to like have cameras that full body scans to know if you are like one of them or not. But also if you just dress

like them. The technology it can't penetrate the costume. They just can't tell the difference between but last thing, they they eat and torture children, but they also defend the place from robbers. Right, y'all got a weird moral code here and chuck e cheese. You're like, wow, it really is all shades of gray. Like, listen, we'll kill a child, but we will not let you steal our pizza recipe. That is, unto my friends, is why we will defend.

It's so crazy, that's so funny, And this is apparently circulating all over TikTok and uh specifically for you know, in the network of kids who otherwise should just be watching dances and weird things. Yeah, which is the scariest part. It's like, you know, you think that your little sister is on the internet watching people learn to like do the Savage dance, and secretly she's learning about murders and mayhem. But what I will say for right now, luckily, is

that it's attributed to a business, which is hard. But for the most part, most part, it is just a ghost story. Like it ain't pizza gate, you know what I'm saying, Like, well, that makes a different kind of pizza gate. But well that that is the that is a slightly endearing part is that essentially what she is

doing is pizza Gate, but for kids. And so the daring part of it is that like, oh, this is an attached to a real person who then becomes criminalized and now we have to spend the next twenty years trying to unpack for other real people. It's like, Okay, it's like this fictional character that she thinks comes to life. That's harmless in the grand scheme of conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, um, but I I just because to me, like I think that like so much of growing up weirdly is that,

you know what I mean. It's like so it's like again, it's like the Usher Sierra thing. It's like you know how they say, like babies see more. They see more things because they don't have language to dictate the things that they see, and they don't see Wow, I hadn't heard that. You haven't. Yeah, it's like a really interesting thing. So I'll do a quick example, real quick. But they have this thing called the green dot test, right, and so they take a village, you know, let's say in Brazil, right,

I forget where it is exactly. They have like over forty words for the word green because that's how nuance they see. So they give them a chart with nine green dots and one is off by like point zero one of a hue, right, and say which one is different, and they can point to the one that's different every time. But this same the same village or a group of people don't have a word for the color blue. So when you hand them the chart with the same chart but one of the dots is blue and ask them

which one is different, they physically can't see it. Their brain can't register it because they don't have the language for it. So if you do it to someone like us, who has the word blue, but we don't have the nuance of the color green, we we fail the same test, but in opposite So that's why they say like babies

and blah blah blah. So I want to say all that that it's like to the usher thing, the Sierra thing, even to the like the thing with your sister, it's like we're all weirdly trying to define a world through the prism of like a very limited language. Right, So because like, well she's actually talking about it's just like the greater fears of like probably technology of like an unknown world, and like what does that mean, what is what you know? Like, what is the idea of murder

and torture? All these words that she hears, but she doesn't necessarily understand the concept of them. Man. And it's the same thing with like the Usher thing and the Sierra thing is like not understanding that like sexuality, gender, all that stuff is fluid and isn't binary, and like you know, flows in very different ways, and because you don't have the way to define them that you kind

of just like start inventing things. Yeah, to your point, I think it's just us trying to bring everything closer to ourselves, and we do it in sort of like difficult, ignorant ways sometimes, but it's not always malicious. It's just like, this is the only way I can begin to understand the world or the feelings I'm having is to express fear, and I don't know how to articulate what the real

fear is. So there's motherfucker's in chucky cheese basement trying to kill I'll start there and then you know, the out to be clear, the usher here, I think like that we can't. We can't. We're not copying that one to like childhood ignorance, like there was Brittain and Edward and Tim. Timmy hates you usuer. He thinks you're you're you got a vagina on your hip and he hates you and he'll never forgive you for what you did. That's where and that's where he keeping CDs and that's

how he was handing him out. He would he had a little vagina on his hip and then he would keep the CDs in there on the tapes, and he pulled him out. And that's how l A that's how l A read got his damn. You know it's true because all his c d s, if he ever gave you one, they were a little wet. There was just a little bit wet, and you know because it was in that pussy pocket on his hip. All right, all right, we've crossed the threshold. We did it. I think we

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