Pu**y on the Hip (with Yassir Lester) RE-RELEASE

but we mixed the letters up. That's neither here nor there. But we have a vault filled with amazing episodes, and so we thought it would be really fun to re release one of my absolute favorite episodes featuring one of my absolute favorite people, yes Or Lester, where we talked to him about one of maybe the most provocative conspiracy theories we could have picked, certainly for one of our first episodes. We did not have to start this way,

and yet we did. Now. I love this episode and I think you'll love it too, So please enjoy, and as always, if you want to send me drops, if you want to send me your conspiracy theories, if you want to say slightly Neggie things to me, like many of my fans apparently like to do. You can send all of that to my Mama pod at gmail dot com. It's my Mama pod at gmail dot com. And also I would love for YouTube rate review. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcast or wherever you do that stuff.

It doesn't just have to be Apple, although Apples the one I check. Everything else doesn't matter to me. That ain't Cannon as far as I'm concerned. So do that on the Apple podcast app and do it before I get upset. Okay, bye, bitch. It's so weird how like the person you are in high school, unless you make drastic changes, is kind of just who you forever. Yeah,

you carry the one on that personality. Yeah. Absolutely. They used to do those episodes of like Ricky Lake where they would be like I used to be a dork in high school, but now I'm fucking hot, and like they'd come out, you remember, and they'd like yell at the person who bullied them. But even when they would come out, you could still see a dork in them, you know what I mean? Right, because a loser would be like I gotta get Ricky Lake to show someone

who hasn't thought about me in twenty two years. You mean that this lady with the whole family, you're gonna yell at her because she was mean to you when she was sixteen? Girl? The fucker racist? You can't tell me. Yeah,

there it is. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to a spectacular I'm wonderful, a beautiful, big tittied episode of My Mama told me the podcast where we died Deep Deep go underground into the world of black conspiracy theories, and we worked to finally prove that Jaden Smith can in fact talked to fish. That Nigga died his eyebrows blonde for a reason. Humans didn't tell him to do that. A fish told him that. A trout named Harold said, Jaden, you know what, I'm a fish. You should look more

like a fish. Make your eyebrows disappear into your face. We know you can talk to fish, Jaden, and we are going to prove it. I'm Langston Kerman, I'm your host. As always, I'm having me I'm having a weird day. I'll be honest. Today I discovered that and I didn't know this, and I'm a very ignorant person. Apparently the phrase time these twins is racist and no idea. This whole time, I just thought I never knew that that

Siam was a real place. I just thought that was the name that they picked for those twins that are stuck together. But as it turns out, we were driving my wife and not driving past a restaurant they claimed to sell Siamese food, and I said, well, why are they selling Siamese food? What is Siamese food? Is that like when two chickens are pressed up against each other and they cook it? Anyway, I didn't know, and she said, no,

Siam is a real place. And then I said, oh no, that means that that word that white people came up with, it's just me. It was just two kids apparently born with their elbows stuck together. And then white people are like, all right, that's gonna be your country's thing forever and always name the evils of America. Well that covers that. I'll tell you this my next guest. He ain't evil. He's a good guy. He's a lovely human being. I'm so excited that he's here. You know him from Oh Man,

you know him from Black Monday. It's a hilarious show. That he both writes on it and has a Didn't you know him from Duncanville? You know him from writing on black a m huh. You know him from trolling Jimmy John's on the internet because he told me, and I'm quoted here, he fox the subway and he doesn't think Jared did it. That's what he said. I don't know. We'll find out more about that when I invite him on Please welcome my hilarious desk. Mr Yes and Lester

every dollar. Yeah. Let me let me clarify something I didn't say. Jared didn't do it. I said he did it, and I don't care right fair enough, you're like this bug me give me my five dollar foot loan. I was specifically, I'll go to subway, get come back home. Look at cabinets on wayfair. I don't care if a woman comes to these. I'm anyway. My kids needs a cabinet regardless. What's that guy's doing with me? Now you're talking about botuses. If you find a kid in your cabinet,

you're gonna send it back now. Now you got a kid, You got a kid. And what they don't tell you is is that like you can also you don't gotta keep the kid. You gotta you can tell the kid, and then that's to come up for you. You could do then It's like you didn't pay nothing for the cabinet, right you You could do the right thing or the wrong thing with that. That's your choice. Why are you making this up an issue for Wayfair? They're just doing

good business? Oh my god. Like, first of all, and I know this is the conspiracy we're talking about, but I will say the thing that always cracks, like, especially with that one, I was just like, you think you're the one who cracked the case. I'm saying all these people, I'm like, you think you think Wayfair didn't think enough to be like, Okay, let's name it exactly after murder children and kidnapped children. Make it twelve thousand dollars. But

no one will suspect the thing. I hope a fifteen year old doesn't come on the website like it's just so crazy. It's so it is wild that they were like the biggest way to crack this code is I'm pointing out this one's named Rebecca, so there's probably a lady named Rebecca in here. It's like, I don't think. I don't think that's how you If I'm gonna like kidnap a kid, I'm probably not gonna do it that.

But well, it's like you're not the same name, the same name, like if any it's more to me it reads more like, you know how like Disney animators are like all right, make sure the pastor has a boner made. Like it's like a like it's gross and weird, but like there's nothing. There's not kids behind the boards of Disney like you know, doing like weird sex stuff. Right, It's to me, it's it's more like that, like it's just some weird guys, Like I'm gonna name these kids.

I'm gonna this after the lady I follow home and it's like, Okay, now you're weird for sure, but there's not a kid in there. You just got some ship to work out. Yeah, so anyway, that's great. I'm so happy you're here. Dog good. Yeah, you know, me and you just worked together on the b T Awards, So there's a time catching up since the dog. Fine, I moved in the middle of this, which has been a nightmare. Kay, bro Like, and this is gonna be on a racist tip, but I gotta say so hold on, wait a minute,

that's how they get go ahead. So my girlfriend Chelsea, who you know you worked with her on Hilarious Lankston Kerman was an actor on, so she hired movers for us. They end up being Russian, which whatever, you know what I'm saying, not ideal in these times, but here we are. It feels like they should like that we got a preface with us, so you know we're Russian, like gonna We're gonna come through with the accents and all that.

And by the way, we were really Russian. We're like we're like old school, like you know, James Bond, Like you know, I don't own nothing but track suits. That's that's the kind of energy I'm coming with. But like to the point where it was like an older dude who was balding and then like clearly like his nineteen

year old son. And it was like one of those things where I was just like for the sun, I was like, what you do, like work on like one of them troll farms, like you know what, Like you're you're a Moore, you know what I'm saying, Like you don't know how to use a phone, bro, Like young entrepreneurial boy, you should be you should be hacking our our government. What are you doing? You would have a better life back in Russia just sitting in one of

them rooms, you know. Anyway, I digress. So they show up and like, what would any other time be, like, oh, Walmart gigantic like Walmart store size eighteen wheeler, like the gigantic ones. We have a one bedroom apartment or like whatever. It's unnecessary, but all right, yeah, they load up half my apartment. They're like, all right, that's all we can fit for y'all. And we were like what. They're like, oh yeah, sorry, we have a whole other household on

the truck. So we're just squeezing y'all on. It was just like all right, we gotta take this ut. So that's so my point is, it's like we were so scared of them being Russian that we took the l on them being bad movers. You know, this wasn't based on like culture. This was just too bad movers who packed you guys in together. No, man, that it was because here's the thing it felt like, and honestly, I'm gonna be real, this is where the race part comes.

It's like it felt like they knew that we couldn't say nothing because they're Russian. Yeah that makes sense. Like the kids, it was like a lot of like long looks at us and we're like, all right, just hired to scrab it you you both have very ethnic names. Is They probably looked at all the reports and they're like, yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna we'll do whatever. Yeah, we'll do whatever we want. Are we gonna give them their own truck?

It was so crazy, but I was just like, oh, this is like their time, and like I mean it for you, like online and stuff, Like I hate the argument that people are like Russians did all this. I'm like, Russians planted seeds, but like Russians weren't at the voting booths, you know what I'm saying. Like they just convinced y'all. They were just sending out blasts and then a bunch of y'all wanted this to happen. Yeah they didn't. They didn't do anything that specially, Yeah exactly. It wasn't great.

So like I'm usually just like yeah, Russia, blah blah blah, but this time I was like, oh, I feel like I know I can't do nothing right now. First they came from my national election and I said nothing. Then they came from my furniture and I drew him motherfucking line. Oh my god, that it is so funny. Yeah, so yeah, that's I was. Yeah, I was. I was scared. But you know, goodness, that's all life is. Bend dog. I don't do nothing. I don't know, but I mean, you're

like out there exercising at all. I don't do nothing. I run and then I come back inside. That's pretty much it. It ain't it's not that deep, but you know, we gotta figure out ways to stay saying and all of this. I figured if I somehow could get buff before the industry opens back up and they have to talk to me different, then I'll have saved my career somehow. It's not working, as you can plainly see. But no, but your face is definitely because here's the thing you have,

because are you You're a drinker. I drink. I used to drink a lot more Now I'm like very occasionally I'll drink. Okay, see, I was gonna say, as someone who used to drink and doesn't anymore, I noticed I can tell when people stop their face. And so I was gonna say, yeah you stopped, yeah you stopped, or your working out a lot, but it's probably a mix of both as well. I'll take it. I used to be a fatty. Now I'm not what I can get. Speaking of fear, we're talking about fear. I had a

little bit of nervousness going into your conspiracy theory. I'll be honest. Oh you have. You've presented one that arguably is one of our most challenging to enter into in today's era in but I'm very excited to introduce it because you were. You also were the fastest person of all time to respond to the question of what would you like your conspiracy theory to be? No one has fast It's alwayst as if I'm always thinking about it.

It felt like you had the email drafted already and we're just waiting for someone to ask what you're thinking about, yasir, and you you asked, and it's beautiful. You said, my mama told me Rusher and Sierra used to be hermaphrodites, And boy, oh boy, did my jaw dropped. And before we go any further, because I want to hear all your thoughts. Before we go any further, I want to be clear for our listeners at home that that word is not a word that we use for people. It

is an outdated word. The correct terminology is inter center sex. Yes exactly. However, at the time that we were growing up, that was the word that that conspiracy theory sort of came out of. I never heard the word intersex until like three years ago, and unfortunately, everybody was just running around calling Sierra and usher hermaphrodites. So please, yas there,

tell me more about this conspiracy theory. So, and this is where we get into the like, this is where we get into the weeds of it a little bit, because so many conspiracy theories, as someone who genuinely loves them, so many conspiracy theories usually have a thread of like, oh okay, Like it's not that you can follow it perfectly, but you can tug on it and get back to

where you started. Right. This one, truly the only thing, the only thing I can think of, because I really spent a lot of time, and here's the thing I didn't. I wasn't as smart as to like go research it. The only thing that I wasn't reading your book studying your science because like here's the thing. It's like it was I think, well, you know, and I hope this doesn't step on any other ones. But we're roughly the

same age, a few years older than you. But this conspiracy theory hit the ground running around the same time as Marilyn Manson had his ribs removed, so he, you know, give himself head. And then that little Kim backstage one night, you know, gave blowy Jay's to so many dudes she had to get her stomach pump so like, so it's like number one is like a sixth grader who has no concept of sex as is like you know, like I feel like sixth grade girls get it because they

have to. Like we just live in a society sadly that like if they don't have the knowledge, dudes take advantage of them, and sad these usually older men blah blah blah. So like usually thank goodness, women have like a a better a better grasp all these things sex until and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I feel like no man knows anything about sex until he actually has it. Like it doesn't matter how many books you've read, it doesn't matter how many stories you've heard.

It's like, once you're actually in the act, you're like, whoa, there, we have no concept of like where things actually go or what it's supposed to feel like, it's just all theoretical. And then you get inside of a person and you're like, okay, yeah, all right, let's take it easy. I think I get it now, and even then, and even then I would say like I think at like time number ten, it's like you're like, oh, I got it. Like well, that's why we're also trash at it in the beginning, because

we didn't know anything to start off with. And then that's tacked on top of the fact that we're not smart enough for intuitive enough to figure it out quickly, you know what I mean, Like men are. We're not sitting there studying and figuring it out. We're just like looking at it and being like, oh, that's different than I thought. And then we like, you know, run and go, come and try to figure it out again the next time. Oh god, um, so as you know, as you so

eloquently stated, so it's like you don't know anything. So it's like not only that, not only do you not know anything about the act, like being intersects. It's a very that's a very nuanced conversation for even for even for the most expert mind in terms of like what that means not just for the person, but for society at large, you know. And then like the Marilyn Manson thing, it's like you clearly don't know enough about anatomy to

know that that's impossible. It's that didn't help that much, didn't Yeah, And then it's like pray, it's just like you didn't extend to your spine. You got rid of the other part that if you couldn't do sit ups before, you're not like doing them better because your ribs are smaller, Like, that's not the issue here, bro. So that would be funny if you just saw a dude with like a fourteen pack. It's like, oh, I got I got my ribs removed. I got one removed, and now I'm super

buffin dick, stay wet, don't matter who's sucking it. I got my dick. It's so sad. So So anyways, as I was saying about tracing the threat, the only thing I can truly truly think of is that they are both phenomenal performers and dancers. And are like for the sadly for the sierra of it all is that she, especially at the time, was so toned and so like, you know, like because there's the thing. It's like Janet

Jackson was that toned. Angela Bassett was that toned, and like those conversations never came up, but I think that they were already in like they were already in the world. Well, you know what, what to your point, it wasn't just that she was toned. She also was like hanging out

with bow Wow. So she was taller than that's right, and so it's like, oh, this big, strong, tall lady and she's not even that tall, but at the at the time it was she was like six eight and muscular, and so a bunch of high school kids were like, this bitch, gota penis, which is like so so like because it a actually it's spotlighted on us shore and then went to see and it was just it was one of those things again that like the usher of it all never made sense other than I think it's

my theory. You know. I went to very went to very hood schools till till high school, and uh so there's like all like middle school stuff, and it was truly it just felt like one dude hated that his girl like that, and he just told everyone that he was half girl, which is so crazy, but already gotta

pussy on his hip, so fuck him. Because that's also the other thing that like was so especially as you you know, get older and learn about people's bodies, but like the thing that used to always throw around and

be like, actually the clip is a penis. Actually, but his penis was a click, and Sierra's clip is a penis and you're like, what where to god, It's like, yeah, that's true, and you're like it can't be okay, But at you know, at sixth grade, you know, in the sixth grade, you're like, oh my god, right, your whole world,

your whole world is crumbling. And then you're thinking about the one crew drawing that they show you in textbooks and you're like, well it did kind of look like a tiny little dick and I don't know what to do, and you nailed it again. Because it's like this is also the rise of the Internet. Like this is when like the internet first hit schools and like there was no way to block anything, right, Teachers had no idea what like a firewall was like you could just you

can do whatever you want. And also it's like so much of the Internet truly owes what it is to pornography, Like yeah, pornography built the Internet, and so because of that, you could find all that stuff easier. Like I remember, truly the first two things I ever saw online were a porno site and then cartoon network dot com pictures of Dexter's from Dexter's lab that you could print out and color yourself. Those are the first and then the third thing I did was print out Bone Thugs and

Harmony lyrics. I put them in a binder. I love that, I do love. I hope it happened exactly in that order. That first first you watched them porn you came, and then you came to your sense and you were like, you know what I that that was a lot. I need to color. I gotta color something. I love Dexter's lab. I'm gonna color. I can't color without music. Who did

I listen to? Of course Bone Thugs and Harmony, And you sat there and you colored Dexter and you listen to Bone Thugs, and you you let your your come soak into your pants. Well here's this is even sadder thing.

Look that point is at the school library looked at moren then got scared and then downloaded the Dexter's Lab thing and then printed, but then went home and then you know, thought about porn clearly, right, So the the Dexter's Lab was more sort of like to cover up your your tracks, right right, I just because I remember I didn't know what the Internet was, and I saw his commercial that was like, go to cartoon Network dot com and download a picture of Dexter, and I was like,

what I gotta do that. If the TV's telling me to do it, I'm taking Nexter. Oh my god, I do. I totally agree. I do think that so much of this came out in an era where there were no The Internet was sort of like the wild West. It was like Deadwood almost, just like a lawless town without any organization, and there was nobody to fact check anything. Whereas now if some sort of conspiracy like this word to come forward, it would be immediately at least refuted,

if not fully dismissed. There'd be a hundred people being like, no, shut the funk up, that's not true. Here's proof of that thing. But we were kids and they were just like, you know what, you gotta dick under there, and we're like, yeah, I don't know. I actually didn't know. Because truly, back in the day, like someone telling you something was equal to books. This presentation. I would like to cite Steve.

Steve told me that if you turn to Steve verse eight, he mentioned, you know what I'm saying, someone could just be like because I mean truly, like if you were in a classroom and someone ran in and said, like someone bombed the CNN center down town, unless you like got to the news and me you just because also, most people back in the day didn't lie about stuff like that for the most part, you know what I'm saying, people, I mean, people clearly lied about like assurance, SIRA being

interset like, but like mostly people it's just like news was news. Yeah, there wasn't as much of a trend of like doing it for the trolling wasn't the same thing. You were actually actually crazy if you were doing something like that. And now it's a little more of a gray area where it's like you either are crazy or you're the funniest motherfucker I've ever met in my life. I don't always know which one. Yeah. So, like when someone told you something, you were just like, all right.

I mean because it's also if you think about it's probably low key. How like every religion started, it was just something being like, this is what happened. You went all right, okay, so follow you. Hey, y'all. Hey, Steve said some stuff, So I'm gonna follow him. I'll cite him occasionally if that will help the group. I didn't have to ask is it a long line of Steve's or is it one Steve who's been eternal. I like

to think it's a generational thing. Steve and then Steve the junior and Steve the first, and we go down the line. All right, I like that. Yeah, all right. We're gonna take a break and then we'll be back with more Ya lesser and more. My mama told me we are back. Yeah, we're back, baby. We are back here with more Yasa lesser, and we are still talking about the history of the sex of both Usher and

the era and where that all comes from. This is the question I wanted to ask, did at any point well, first of all, who specifically do you remember telling you this or is there a person specifically like a group of dudes, but I'd be gladly to say all name name. So they also here's the thing, and I this is like such a weird detail to remember. It was all the tallest dudes in my grade. So it was like it was all the dudes who were like, you know, five ten and sixth grade. One of them was named

I swear to guy. His name was Brittain but it was b r I T t O N and like he only wore he was just like it was crazy because he wasn't particularly good looking, but he was just like so fresh, like he was always like I don't know if this made as to Chicago, but just always like an Apollo and like some like Tommy Hill figure like Carpenter Gene or some rebox. He was just always losty like that. Then there was this other dude, Timmy,

who like less fresh, I can ask less wrong. They were like trying to figure it out, but he was he was like six three, Like they were trying to figure out how to have him play for like the high school team in sixth grade. Like it's like crazy. They were trying to do that that thing that people do with like Dominican kids, R yeah him up instead of bump him down like he's he's old. Yeah. So it was it was Britain and Timmy and then the

last dude was Edward and Edward. I remember, like, so Edwards was like so many weird I'm gonna leave out the dude the last dude's names because I don't want to put him on blast, like Edward's kind of Edwards cousin. The cousin's dad broke out of prison while we were all on school, Like we were at school and like a news bulletin came up and they were like so you know, like they like said a dude and the kid who it was like started crying and we were like, nigga,

this is incredible, Like your dad got out of jail. Congratulations. Yeah he's like no, I'm the one that put him in. Oh God, coming to kill me? Why are y'all cheering? Please stop this? Oh my god, that would have been worth it. But so then the last dude was Edward, and Edward was always wearing a Reggie Miller Indiana Pacers,

Jersey Love that. All those were the dudes they're like there like Loki like mobbed on me, like just like rolled up on me and was just you know, ushers or her Ma, Like I didn't I didn't know that. But I mean, like, if you're telling me to tell people like you guys seem like cool dudes, I repeat, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, look I got no qualms about repeating something that just heard from three people that barely talk to listen. I've ben't figuring myself out enough to feel confident to tell

you know that's not true. So yeah, I'll go tell more people and will create a violent and dangerous admens to be around the school, more so for people that are struggling with their inter sexuality. So thank you, thank you for choosing me to be your mouth. Oh and then for high school, it was because that's when the

Sierra thing was happening, right or maybe right before. But it had to have been Mohomie Mark or Mohomie Eugene because they were because they were most likely was Eugene, like we all worked at McDonald's together, and Eugene, like Mark, was from Detroit, so he and he had like the older brother who rapped and like we were always just

like trying to get Mark. He was like varsity basketball freshman year high school, like man, like Mark is doing it, you know what I'm saying, But like I was the weird kind of like our kid who was trying to be funny. And then Eugene was just like this spacey like weirdo. Anyway, So those are people that told me about it. And then like again, like I'll say this the Usher thing, I fully believed. I just like fully believed it from the the Sierra thing. Right, Well, that's fascinating.

I'm gonna jump in here because that that actually is really fascinating to me because it wasn't one that I think that I heard when I was growing up. Oh interesting, I had heard a lot of speculation about his sexuality and him, but not a lot about like the possibility of him having you know, multiple sex sex organs. But I will say that it fits within a a world of theories that you know what I mean, or a

type of theory that made perfect sense to me. So it wasn't me reading that and going get the funk out of here. It was more like I could see that I can see how we as kids would have accused him of being intersex or whatever, you know, hurtful word. We were then, but even in right, you know us, you got a Cybes ding dong. That's right, they fused together. Man, you don't want to tell nobody because he's say it helps his dancing. That's how he danced so good, because

that's all. That's part of it, which is so crazy that they were always but that's how he could do that so good. It's just like, I'm sorry him having both like anyway, sorry, no, it helps him move his hips in a way that a man never should be able to. So crazy. But so with that, most of the research that I attempted to dig up about this, there's not a lot about Usher. It just there isn't

a lot. Whereas with Sierra there's a ship ton and of her literally having to go on interviews, multiple interviews, and deny the possibility that she's intersect And the worst part about it is, and I didn't realize this until I'm like digging all this stuff up, she was fucking seventeen. She was a child. This was a child being like ha ha ha nah No, I'm not a boy and a girl mixed to other like y'all say over and

over again. Anyway, here's my song good he's about having sex with an adult man that was written by by an adult man, Jazzy. But here's what I'll say that I feel like not to say that it's proven, but I feel like the part that we can take from this is that this is all the Usher thing is so infancy Internet that and then remember I was like, I think it was just the spotlight was taken from

Usher then flashed on us. I think that I think that that's the through lines you can follow, is that like, as that rumor went on, they just attached it to whoever they could, and she just happened. Because I was like, what two thousand two, two thousand, one thousand four is when she came out, and I think it was pretty immediate that people like, this is not a traditional quote

unquote traditional woman, whatever the means. I will say that even because I don't know enough, and because as I felt like this is important, especially in terms of this subject, I wanted to dig up exactly why hermaphrodite is a problematic word, right, And so what I uncovered is that basically hermaphrodite is not actually a thing that happens in a human person that here hermaphrodite refers to a organism that's able to hold both genitals or like a male

and female sex organ at the exact same time equally, which doesn't actually happen in humanity, right. Intersect people actually is more complicated than that, Like you said before, It like ranges from anything from like a person who has just like undefined genitals, a micro penis and enlarged clitterists. Labial fusion is one of the things undescended testicles or a labial mass, which they you know, if they dug

under there, I guess they could find testicles underneath. So it's a bunch of ship that sounds like me I personally connect with the labial Yeah, man, keep digging, keep diggings, You're gonna find what you're looking for. So it's like all these why so that even the implication that like these two people are sort of this same thing is like a super ignorant thing because they could be a

million different kinds of intersex. But it's also like, and you know, there's two things that play a It's a child learning the concept of what hermaphrodite is in terms of whatever attribute that is to it, to an animal or organism right, learning that and then being reducing it to like, oh, that would be like if a dude had a dang dong and had a little had a vagina, that would be And you're like, that's it could not be more wronging, like, that's what it is, right, See

you teach you, I hear you. But I'm also I'm hearing what I'm saying, and what I'm saying sound more like what I like to say, so I'm gonna go with it. So it's like you have that already at play. And then the concept that like, and I'm not saying this would be funny that let's say the I don't know what the most common form of inter sexuality is, right, but let's just say we just take the most populous form of intersexuality is right, that two of them would make it as R and B stars dog, it's like

such a crazy saying. So that's the other thing that I n covered is that that intersects people only represent one point seven per cent of the population. So the fact that it's already impossible to make it to the whole celebrity, but two of them would, under the dark, the cloak of night, make it to that level, and you a nigga who's on the inner meant coloring Dexter's

lab pictures uncovers this truth about her is insane. It's wild. Yeah, it's uh, but it basically lacks I'm just like, oh, just like it doesn't matter if it was, if it's two thousand two nine. It's just like niggas have just been bored forever. We just needed something to talk about, anything, to talk about, anything other than learning that that little girl's got broad shoulders. Let's say that she's, uh, she's

a man now. It's like now she's probably just growing into her body and also very talented at the exact same time. But also like here's what I'm saying, Like again, not to speak on I don't want to speak on traditional gender norms, but in the realm that we are existing right in a business, the music business, that relies on gender norms at the time, at the very least at the time, Sierra is just because she has nice shoulders.

She's one of the most hyper feminine people who's ever list But sure like outside of like wearing a white blazer, it's like a very dude, he's a buff man. Yeah, it's like so crazy that we've picked truly like the ends of the spectrum for a hyper femininity and masculinity, and we're like, both of them have both parts. Next question. If anything, if we needed a starting point at our most ignorant level, we could have said rue Paul, who

already was playing the line. But instead we were like, who's that motherfucker that that looks like a man and talks like a man and dances like a man. That's a lady too. It's like, what do you do? Why said he's part lady? Next question? Okay, but stop browling at me when you said it she part man? You heard one us put the record all told me when she talked about Rolando Nigga's left you know sound part

and the way she's saying that. So one of the things that I think is hugely fascinating from this whole thing. And like I said, Sierra, So with part of the Sierra argument was that number one that the claim and maybe you heard this, was that not only was she intersex, but that she had announced it on the Oprah Winfrey Show. That there was like this hidden episode where like Sierra had come out and like said like, hey, Oprah. I am in a an intersex person and this is my truth.

The episode does not exist. But everyone claimed to have seen this episode, and everything that I uncovered was like a bunch of people being like, yeah, my cousin said he saw the episode. It was wild, it was crazy. It's like the fun out of here. Because that's also a holdover from pre internet, is that it was because that's also the Tommy Hill figure thing. Remember that exactly what I thought about. Yes, and then Tommy hill Man, Tommy Hill figure went on the open with Your show.

He said he was niggas never wear his clothes. He said, if he's a nigger, James Hill shoot him in the streets. It's like Tommy Hilpiger never said that. But you're also like the dude who's first and only model for a very long time was Aliyah Aliah is literally responsible for

the successful Tommy Hill figure. But like, it's just so weird that we can say back in the day, you could say anything and be like, what it happened, Like, oh, it is on Oprah, and maybe that's why she's an op Yes, Oprah let a bunch of I love this Oprah Let A bunch of bullshit ride because she wanted more ratings and more attention, and she was willing to let the black community tank itself for the sake of entertaining white people and letting her fake stories sort of

circulate to make herself more popular in the white community. It's yeah, now that we're on this, I'm like, oh, that's exactly what happened. Oprah probably started all this ship. Yeah, every hey tell him Tommy Hill was just on the show, and that's the era that she got a ding dong

hiding in the pan. Make sure you mentioned the Oprah Winfrey Show every Tuesday at eight, because it's also like I'll say this, like Oprah had wild moments right, like she had the clan on and like you know, there was ship just to that bigger moments, but it wasn't Jerry Springer or Jenny Jones. Like the chances that two major things happening on her show and no one it

wasn't at least news. That's the thing that we just we just forego or four went to the news the way that was just like, well, you know he said that he's know someone who saw it, and it's just like like we all wouldn't everything else made it to us, right like any other Like the Mark Ferman tapes made it to us, like so many things, so many things that that was a home video shot in the dark

in nineteen whate whatever it was. There's a reason that all these things make it to us, and it's because they existed, not because like there's some secret conspiracy not to show us the lost Sierra tapes. God, I mean, I wish I was better at deep fakes, because it would be funny to just do deep fakes of Tommy Hill figure on Oprah and Sierra On making their little announcements like I found them. I found that. Everybody said

they weren't real, but I found the tape. That's so funny, So okay with the usher one one of the more fascinating parts of that, because like I said, I wasn't finding a lot of information about any accusations about him being intersex, and even accusations feels like a weird urnam in this case, because it's, yeah, sure, you're a smarter man than I am, right words, But so it all, as far as I could tell, and this was my own digging, As far as I can tell, most of

the accusation or sort of like criminalization of Usher came out of exactly what you said, which is, this is a dude who sexier than me, and I don't like how that feels, so I'm going to undermine it. And then in two thousand and ten, he does that song with Nicki Minaj a Little Freak. I'm sure you know the lyrics. Of course, to back uh, he talks about being bisexual. It certainly like hanging out with bisexual people

and like group sex and that whole thing. And in an interview afterwards with MTV, they asked him, like a Usher, are you into group sex now? And he's like His response was basically like, you know, I get into it from time to time. I like hanging out with bisexual people. And that's when the Internet is like, Oh, this motherfucker up to something he ain't. Oh he he on some dirty, nasty, filthy ship, which I think then spawns because of our

homophobia and transphobia and all the phobias. It moves into Oh he's got multiple like sex organs and his body kind of thing. It's crazy, I mean, And here's what I'll say. Granted, the news didn't hit until like, you know, four years ago or something. But if we had known Usher was getting all them poor ladies sick back the day, there's no way we would have assumed he was intersex,

like he's just not. He's just given. He's given every woman he meets Herpy's what we would have accused him of was being a bad guy, and then that would have been the excuse for why our girls shouldn't have sex with him. It was like, not, you don't want to funk us, or he's a bad person. You want to you want to your skin to turn green. He's got diseases. Girls stick with me. I can't move walk sideways, but I'm pretty good. Look I can't move walk sideways,

but I promise you'll get home safe and healthy. You won't cough tomorrow. So I'm glad you brought that up because in two thousand seventeen, just for anybody who doesn't know, Usher got sued for twenty million dollars because a woman and then three people after that accused him of giving them herpies without notifying them ahead of time, that he knowingly gave them herpies and didn't tell them, which is a crime, which they never proved that he had herpies

or that they had herpies. In fact, I think that one of the women they proved she did not in fact have herpies, but was just saying it and letting it ride. But I didn't realize this, and this is a very fascinating element of it, is that one of the accusers of the four is a man. Had no idea. Really yeah, there was a dude in that group, and he never revealed his name or his identity. He went by John Doe, as they do in you know, court cases where you don't want to keep your identity secret.

And so I think that that just added to like sort of this weird dance of like what the funk is going on with Usher? And so there's all these different historical moments that people refer to when they talk about Usher sexuality. For example, his ex wife to make a foster in two eleven tweeted after their breakup that gay men quote unquote gay men who look and at straight should identify themselves with bright wrist bands, which who boy, I hate when I hear an idea that I had first. Uh,

she was like, clearly, you're tripping. This is wild. That is so fun. It's just like also like you know, the Holocaust to happen. Yeah, I know that, like we just as a species, we shouldn't do things to identify what is different. Just leave it alone. You just gonna have to guess. And you know, there was a small part of her that was like, well, I'm not putting patches on their shoulder, I'm just wristbands tattooing them. I just want a wristband so that they don't trick me.

But that's why I don't like the logic of it, because it's like, you know, the easiest thing to get off, it's a wristband, like you just cut them off, like the gay like these secret gay agents aren't just able to take the wristband off in the morning after a nice shower, Like what are you talking about, Tamica. Well else, I just like it's just like I don't I don't want the world to know I'm gay or bisexual, but

I gotta put all my wristband. You know. That's what Tomka says, you know Ta mak a Foster Usher's ex wife. Oh but see that was another thing that I remember pointed to about the conspiracy of us was just not even the intersex thing. But of his sexuality. It's because Tamika was older than him by like ten years or something, and people are like, no man loves a woman years older than him unless he gave You're like, are you sure?

Like every time every like someone older than him, he gave something wrong with his brain and would be like a woman that old, look at it, what is she in our mid to late thirties? She's done. It's so sad. Okay, so that that happens. Then in two thousand thirteen, I believe it is did he does an interview where it's like one of Diddy's parties, and this is one of those where he starts videotaping the parties and he has Kevin Hart hosting this party and he's interviewing with Kevin Harden.

Usher walks into the building and he's so happy to the Usher, and he starts talking to Kevin on the microphone with Usher and he says out loud in the interview, he says, oh, I love this this dude, he's my bro. We used to wake up together, I mean damn. Pause, and then everybody just started laughing because Diddy had implied that him and Usher used to sleep in a bed together as partners. That one's that's hard. That's a stretch

for me a little bit. It's it's not evidence of anything, right, because I would just assume it was just like even my head went to, oh yeah, like a hard night of party, and you wake up and it's just like, oh, there's Diddy over there, Like I didn't, it's not he was like and then I woke up to the soft, the soft warmth of his breath on my neck. I mean, damn.

Pause and then Usher. He used to kiss me real slow, and he would say good morning, Papa, and I would say, hey, Usher, oh damn, you caught me and Kevin Harts just like, okay, naive, where are you all right? Get over here? Why'm a tweet about this? And get in trouble to? How about how about a smash the dollhouse over both y'alls head? Okay? And then the last one, and this is this is one of my favorites, is that in they asked Jenny McCarthy, of all people in an interview, why are they interviewing

Jenny McCarthy. I have no idea why are they asking her questions about Usher? Even less clear, but in an interview with Jenny McCarthy, she was asked if she thinks Usher is attractive to what She responded by saying, is he for sure straight? Is he? By I think he's hot? I would definitely be interested. I would have that unsure flag of which team he plays for. For real, guys that are really well kept like that and aren't really with that many chicks. I tend to have a question

mark because I remember and I don't. I don't know about you, but I remember because I moved to l A in two thousand five, and that was like I was from Georgia whatever, but was like the I feel like peek Zenith like quote unquote metro sexual movement right, and the whole idea when you really, you know, reduce it to its core, was that like if you're a man and you shower and have a T shirt that ain't wrinkly, you half like I'm sorry, what like if you got a haircut and the best we could have

half you want of these half gay niggers running around God secrets, motherfucker Like like so because like that's like her saying that, and it's like, first of all, when we talk about problem with white women, it's like the woman who lied on Emmett Till and then Jenny McCarthy. She's like, it's right, they're the same to me, Yeah, she I mean, you fucking she did the vaccine. She's

like one of the source materials all her. And the thing is that, like it was bad information and bad science coming from a blonde hair, blue eye, white lady with big breasts, like who's already had some semblance of fame and who had a child that's afflicted not from the thing that she's saying, but because she can point

to that every white person believed her. She's she is lit to your point, she is literally the most dangerous weapon that the white community could pull out in those circumstances. She is both victim and big, tittied and blonde. She can go crazy with whatever she wants to say, and she did. And so like the idea that like someone who is so not just on the wrong side of history, but just like actually in their soul and in their

atoms is incorrect. Like she's not, she's not built the way a human is built in the sense that like, I feel like her molecular polarity spends opposite of us. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just like, you're so wrong on everything, and so it's like the fact that she went on TV again using the weapon of blue eyes and breasts and blonde hair to be like,

oh he must be. Then of course everyone's gonna now is going to question it, and she made it popular in a way that it's and ending it with he's too well kept. That's crazy, it's insane. But yeah, well I think we agree. Jenny McCartney is uh spawn of Satan. Yes, yes we do. We're gonna take another break and then we'll be back with more and my mama told me, and we are back. Yeah, ah, we are back here.

Oh yes, oh that is I mean, sincerely. In in the grand scheme of heartbreaking things to have ever happened, I don't think there's ever a point where I got to enjoy it the way other people did. Like I was just like, oh, I was just like, oh no, this young king has to do this, you know what. And I feel bad about it now, but I legitimately thought it was the funniest thing I had ever seen

in my life. And then other people had to be like, hey, you know that's not good, right, you know, like he's he's really gonna struggle for the rest of his life because of what he just announced in front of five thousand people at a church. I was like, Nope, this niggas hilarious. Here's here's what I'll say, because to pretend that I didn't laugh, like I was pretty on board with like, oh, like this is heartbreaking until he went women women women, and I was just like, you didn't

have to do that. Bar Well, he's a showman, so good. I still check in on him on Instagram. Yeah, he just got in that fight with the lady at the Black Lives Matter around He's still working. Yeah, I will say I appreciate him in the sense that he's just like he's not like what's her name, bad baby or whatever, or it's just like you try to like make a whole new career or whatever. Do like, but I do like that he's like, y'all not gonna forget about me, right,

you know. It's like I'm just gonna keep being myself. But now I get what myself is. Whereas I totally agree I think the bad babies of the world are like a gross human being who then tried to did a bad thing and then tried to manipulate that bad thing into a completely different career that you didn't deserve and should not have. She's just like, no, I'm gonna keep yelling at people and it'll be under different contexts and perhaps you'll like that. Good for him. I'm proud

of him. Okay, now we're gonna play a fun game. This is a fun game. It's a brand new game, and I'm very excited to debut with you this game I have coined and it's a game that I've come up with and I'm very excited to introduced. It's called Langston's sister Jia, who's ten years old, describes new conspiracy theory she uncovers on TikTok. Yeah, so this is how

it works. I'm gonna play you some audio clips of my sister explaining a conspiracy theory to me, and I just like for us to unpack exactly what she's talking about, what is she what she's stressing about, And keep in mind she is genuinely afraid of what's happening in these clips. She is not at all doing this for a prank or for some silliness. She is ten and she means it Okay, here we go. Okay, So my thing about Chucky Cheese is that I don't trust abouty more. I've

heard too many stories about them. They're basically as saying that as a strike of midnight, the robots get off their stands and start walking around seeking for children to eat or to just torture them. All right, yeah, there your thoughts on the Uh So, I just had to be clear. She's afraid that the plot of toy Story and Mannequin exists only at Chuck E Cheese Cheese when it is empty, closed, and so they just go around me like, oh, if there's a spare kid in here,

we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna wait. It was either eat or torture or torture. It depends on the kid in the day, I guess, uh in which may again, I guess catches them or whatever. I don't know. But yes, at the strike of midnight they come alive and they eat and or torture kids. Also, like, does she know that they've they've gone under Chuck E Cheese. Yeah, no, she has no idea. She thinks that Chucky Cheese is the most thriving business of all time, as far as

she's it's her favorite place. So she's like, nah, Chucky Cheese is dope, and I hate to find out. It's as if your favorite person got canceled for her, do you know what I mean? Like it's your hero going down. And she's like, funk, I love Chucky Cheese, but I'm hearing about these robots eating and kidnapping children. But again, like this is it's like the wayfaier thing that I want to, like, ASA, hold your sister and be like, it's not gonna be you that figured this out right,

You're not the one. And I will say that she's a she's smart enough to know that she's not figuring out she but she doesn't know who to trust on the internet. So she, like us when we were kids, it's just subscribing to these people who then tell her something wild and she's like, hey, y'all, I got some bad news. I'm hearing from Jelsey thirty three that that they're kidnapping kids at Chuck E Cheese. I'm hearing from Chucky Eat Cheese hater that some wild things are happening

there at Chuck E Cheese. Why would he say it? If it okay? Just the last thing real quick. It's just like the idea that people still go, yes like that. She's like, oh, I got you know, like I can't go. Other people go. But because you're done't thinking that stroke of midnight thing you gonna catch not today fail. Okay, I'm gonna play you some more because she she goes on to describe exactly because I was very curious, how is it that these people are are these chuck e

cheese robots are coming to life? And she explains that as well. They just found a man that was downstairs doing like spells and voodo on the robots for them to kidnap children. He was using a Luigi board. Plus he had like this circle and he was sitting in the middle with candles, and it was very dark and spooky down there, and he would just sit in the middle and start doing his things. Ah, here's the thing. If you were going to bring robots to life, that is how you do it. Yea. So she's not It

seems as if this isn't a dig. It seems as if whoever told her the story wherever she had it from, they didn't have the vocabulary for pentagram. Yet he was clearly that's what she's describing, right, They didn't know, they didn't know like the actual terms of witchcraft, so they were She was just like, yeah, they got a ugi board and some candles and a circle and a circle.

Because it's also like the other thing you want to say is that like usually for like the demons and like the Satanic, you know, conjurors, it's like they're pretty efficient, Like they're not bringing Augi board and the pensigram like you know, it's like they it's usually one thing, like they either got like a pencilgram with like a book of spells, or they got like Augi board with like a book of spells. But like then maybe like you know,

like a lock of hair or whatever. But like we just need her to know that's like overkill, like if you got to bring thick, your thick, your your method to whatever madness you're trying to create. Because the other question is is are they putting souls into the into the robots? Is that what she thinks is happening, Is that how they're transferring souls from hell or they just

bringing them to life and they're just bloodthirsty. Yeah, I just think that she thinks there just they become become alive. I don't think that the concept of like the transference of a soul is man that's a little too sophisticated for so for her, it's just like they are not alive, and then a man in a basement makes them alive, and then they seek out children to eat and or torture.

Got you all right? Cool? All right, I'm gonna play you the last clip, and this one, I think is when she explains the Chucky Cheese employees handle what's happening with these kidnappings and these robots. Oh wait, so the way the Chucky Cheese people are aware of it, just

real quick, they are. In fact, she'll she'll explain it all okay, perfect well really there was another person who found an article about how it said that the workers when it turns midnight, they have to go put on like a little cute chuck E Cheese outfit because if one of the robots sees you working there and it's midnight, they're basically come and hurt you or murder you. But if you wear the costume, they'll think you're one of them,

so they won't attack you. And what they're attacking you for is they think you're like a robber or someone that's trying to mess with the play store. And when you walk up towards one of them, they always look down at you because there's a hidden camera, I guess in one of their bodies, so they can like scan you whatever to make sure you're not guilty of anything.

Does that make sure you're not guilty of anything? I first of all, this is she is adorable in a way that like, that is so cute, and it's like I just haven't heard a child talk earnestly in such a long time, Like it's so sweet to hear. Even though it's like, you know, oh, it's haunting. I'm not able to get her to stop believing you. But yeah,

it's real cute that she thinks it's real. But okay, because I also the other thing to ask her is, at this point, everyone knows that midnight the robots come back. Everyone knows there they are apparently have been articles written and it's not in these clips. But she also explains that the part of how they uncovered it was they found fingerprints of children on the windows leading towards the basement.

Unrelated to the fingerprints they might find of children any other time it checked on a slide at a booth. These were apparently clearly kidnapped fingerprints. That's opposed to other so there's also windows in the basement. I guess. So, hey, I'm just a reporter here. Okay, yeah, I mean thank you number one for bringing us to light in a

way that I never would have guessed. Because the thing that's funny to me is that now the robots are sophisticated enough to like have cameras that do full body scans to know if you're like one of them or not, but also if you just dressed like them. The technology it can't penetrate the costume. They just can't tell the difference between. But last thing, they they eat and torture children, but they also defend the place from robberts. Right, y'all got a weird moral code here and chuck e cheese.

You're like, wow, it really is all shades of gray. Like, listen, we'll kill a child, but we will not let you steal our pizza recipe. That is, my friends, is why we will defend YEP. It's so crazy, that's so funny, And this is apparently circulating all over TikTok, and specifically for you know, in the network of kids who otherwise

should just be watching dances and weird things. Yeah, which is the scariest part is like, you know, you think that your little sister is on the internet watching people learn to like do the Savage dance, and secretly she's learning about murders and mayhem. But what I will say for right now, luckily, is that it's attributed to a business, which is hard. But for the most part, most part, it is just a ghost story. Like it ain't pizza Gate, you know what I'm saying, Like, well, that's a different

kind of pizza Gate. But well that that is the that is a slightly endearing part is that essentially what she is doing is pizza Gate, but for kids. And so the endearing part of it is that like, oh, this isn't attached to a real person who then becomes criminalized and now we have to spend the next twenty years trying to unpack for other real people. It's like, Okay, it's like this fictional character that she thinks comes to life.

That's harmless in the grand scheme of conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, um, but I I just because to me, like, I think that, like so much of growing up weirdly is that, you know what I mean. It's like so it's like again, it's like the Usher Sierra thing. It's like you know how they say, like babies see more, they see more things because they don't have language to dictate the things that they see, and they don't see Wow, I hadn't

heard that. You haven't. Yeah, it's like a really interesting thing. So I'll do a quick example, real quick. But they have this thing called the green dot test, right, And so they take a village, you know, let's say in Brazil, right, I forget where it is exactly. They have like over forty words for the word green, because that's how nuance

they see. So they give them a chart with nine green dots and one is off by like point zero one of a hue, right, and say which one is different, and they can point to the one that's different every time. But this same the same village or a group of people don't have a word for the color blue. So when you hand them the chart with the same chart but one of the dots is blue and ask them

which one is different, they physically can't see it. Their brain can't register it because they don't have the language for it. So if you do it to someone like us, who has the word blue, but we don't have the nuance of the color green, we we fail the same test, but in opposite So that's why they say like babies

and blah blah blah. So I want to say all that that it's like to the Usher thing, the Sierra thing, even to the like the thing with your sister, it's like we're all weirdly trying to define a world through the prism of like a very limited language, right, So because like what she's actually talking about is just like the greater fears of like probably technology of like an unknown world, and like what does that mean? What is what you know? Like what is the idea of murder

and torture? All these words that she hears, but she doesn't necessarily understand the concept of them. Man. And it's the same thing with like the Usher thing and the Sierra thing, is like not understanding that like sexuality, gender, all that stuff is fluid and isn't binary, and like you know, flows in very different ways, and because you don't have the way to define them that you kind

of just like start inventing things. Yeah, to your point, I think it's just us trying to bring everything closer to ourselves, and we do it in sort of like difficult, ignorant ways sometimes, but it's not always malicious. It's just like, this is the only way I can begin to understand the world or the feelings I'm having is to express fear, and I don't know how to articulate what the real

fear is. So there's motherfucker's in Chucky cheese basement trying to kill me, and I'll just start there, and then you know, the likes it out to be clear, the Usher Sierra thing like that. We can't, we can't. We're not copping that one to like childhood ignorance, Like there was Brittain and Edward and Timmy hates you usuer. He thinks you're you're You got a vagina on your hip and he hates you and he'll never forgive you for

what you did. And that's where and that's where he keeping c D and that's how he was handing him out. He would he had a little vagina on his hip, and then he would keep the CDs in there on the tapes, and he pulled them out. And that's how l A. That's how l A read got his dam. You know it's true because all his c d s, if he ever gave you one, they were a little wet. It was just a little bit wet, and you know because it was in that pussy pocket on his hip. Alright, alright,

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