Name a funnier athlete. I'll wait.
Charles Barkley.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't disagree that Charles is very, very funny, but I don't know that if we went bit for bid OJ to Charles, Charles is putting up more numbers, for sure.
Yeah, but he was in the game longer.
Charles got got a longer run.
Yeah, he played more games.
He just showed you know what I mean. It's like Kawhi versus fucking Paul George at this point where it's like, yeah, Paul George, he plays more often, for sure.
Excuse me. His name is Playoff Pete, playoff.
P Excuse me, he plays more often, for sure. But I don't know. At the end of the day, we're gonna say that's a better player than Kawhi.
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I can love you in the shower, both of our bodies dripping wet on the patio. We can make a night you won't forget on the kitchen floor as I softly pull your hair. We can do it. Anywhere. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.
The podcast where we dive deep deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and.
We finally worked to prove that the cool in Cool Mode D was in fact short for cool Whip.
The man was the heir to a dairy fortune. My name is David Boy. Oh that is that is huge. If true, that is that is fantastic. And I am Langston Kerman. And to find out that Kool O D has been a nepo baby this entire time is uh, that's a lot.
You're in the business, are you surprised that's how it works.
I'm not surprised. I'll say that, uh that more often than not. It is stunning how many people come from sort of like a history a relationship with this industry truly, so d being no exception is it's just the way it goes. I guess look at me.
I'm the illegitimate son of cool Rock Ski from the Fat Boys. Do you think I just got here? You think I just got here?
You know that one fat boy who didn't show up good in black and white pictures?
Don't do my dad like that.
It didn't feel like the fat boys never got successful enough to get like even lighting.
Do you know what I mean?
Where it was just like but they were like one dude who sort of threw them off every time, and it was either the light skin one or the really dark skinned one.
Well, I think both of those guys were trailblazers, and that they were so dark and so like they were new to media.
Yeah, yes, I think that's true.
You know what I'm saying. There wasn't a lot of guys's dark as kol who we do look alike, Olivia. If you could have production do a side by side, you'll see it.
Is that the face you want to make in the side.
I don't know. As soon as as soon as I did it, I regretted it, all right, I don't know. I don't know what listen, it felt honest.
It just didn't feel it didn't feel like the big swing that you probably needed.
But I yeah, it felt true to me though. I mean, we look, I've got DMS. I could probably pull up some people have let me know my entire life. Anyways, that's not what we're here to talk about. We're not here to talk about the paw Boys, who I think I was gonna say, though, if you talk about to people from the time, I think they were huge.
I do think that they got into big imprint. I almost think, and I'm cautious to say this, but I think that they're gonna be like sort of like how Ray Shrimman was, do you know what I mean, where it's like big imprint, Like like at the end of the day, we're gonna like remember a bunch of songs that they had, but nobody's gonna like rush to say their names after you know, twenty twenty five kind of thing.
That's true. But they do get me through a couple of summers.
Yeah, No, that that fucking uh what was the ship where we all were freezing everywhere we went?
They did that?
That that challenge Remember they they had that song where we all like would would freeze and then and then we dance afterwards.
I don't remember that.
I remember.
If I think of Ray Shremmer, I think of Black Beatles. That's the song that's all I was good and no Type, No Type was so good. Yeah you remember that song, of course? Yeah. No, they had some they had some hits. They were like songs that I could rap when I'm drunk.
And and What's his name is responsible for the Spider Man song, which I would say is one of the greatest songs I ever made. Him and alone, Yes, Way Lee and post Malone made that Spider Man song.
I don't even know what song you're talking about.
Oh, you know the Spider Man song.
Don't do me like that. I'm sorry, man, I don't. I don't in the Black Spider Man in the new one.
Yeah, of course they ain't making uh no, baby, I'm yeah.
Yeah, that's one man, that is good. That song.
Don't make you feel good when that?
Come on? Come on, I'm gonna play that after this.
Yeah, he was thinking about me.
Yeah, it's me, baby, I'm erect. We're not here. I wish we were here to talk about some flower.
Honestly, it would feel it would be easier to approach today's episode if we were just talking about sunflowers than Sway Lee. But unfortunately we lost the much day, we lost the major I would say, contributor to the podcast.
This past week, I would say, maybe even to the culture, we could we could zoom out of just the Langston and David of it all.
That's true. I think, I think selfishly, I immediately go, well, this person played such a major role in our podcast. But but more than that, I mean we played a massive role in the world around us and literally the way we speak, the way we identify ourselves in the world.
He was a game changer, truly shaped our art form at least, i'd say so comedy there what forward. I don't know an.
Individual who has lived in more bits than this person. Yeah, right, like maybe Michael Jackson maybe, but even Mike. I think after a while we were like, all right, bro, he's up on old Mike, right, like Billy Jane is Billy Jane. But with him, we were like, nah, you keep on shooting, baby.
Because he ouurdly remained a villain to the end with his to the absolute end phrase.
If you haven't pieces together yet, we're talking about our dear friend of the pod. Oj Simpson passed away at the age of seventy six. He was seventy six years old, and he was maybe the best bad boy that's ever that's ever lived.
I would say, I mean, truly a San Francisco legend.
San Francisco legend, a murder legend, uh legend, too good. He did all the silliest stuff you could do as a human being, and and we're we were sorry to see him go, but we figured by by Olivia's suggestion, I think it's worth a Twitter legend. Absolutely, Olivia, he was. He was a Twitter legend.
Y'all.
Take care remains one of my favorite sign offs that that a person can't say it doesn't it's great. He'd like say something weirdly homophobic and then be like, all right, y'all, take care. Yeah, I just miss him so much and I don't I don't know what to do with these feelings.
Did I It's crazy? I mean, regardless of how you feel about him, he was one of those ones that you never thought was gonna die. I agree, Yeah, there's some there's sometimes a celebrity and the culture kind of dies and you're like, okay, we saw that coming. But truly, I mean, I wasn't aware of his cancer, but like, truly, yeah, never thought the man was gonna die.
I actually, weirdly was aware of his cancer. I think I had like read it somewhere or we were talking about it.
I mean, you also are a research guy.
Yeah, I like to I like to know who has cancer when I when I mean, I mean in general thing that you enjoy. I'll be checking the cancer statueeks every week.
You got a dead pull. Uh.
But I will say that even to your point, when I found out he had cancer, no part of me ever, and I knew he had like I'm pretty sure he had, like prostate cancer. Is that that's the one that like fucks everybody up?
I think so, I'm not sure. I'm not sure that specific.
Yeah, it's prostate cancer. I think that is like that's the if you get that, it's terminal. They're very rare survivors of prostate cancer. And even in hearing that, I was like, nah, OJ will be fine. I don't think OJ's gonna pass away from this ship because he just seems so infallible.
He looked so strong. I mean he looked, he looked he was he was he was hot to that guy was handsome. Yeah, he had a broad build the whole time. He never and an ego about it.
There's a video that started circulating pretty recently of him in a in a truck where he like rolled down. He pulls up somewhere and rolls down his window. He says, you know a lot of people have been saying that I'm about to die soon, that I have some sort of terminal cancer, and that's that's just foolish, that's just nonsense.
You know, the media, they don't run with anything. I'm fine, I'm doing great, y'all, take care and then pulls off and literally died a month later from a very terminal illness. I mean, it's.
Crazy, truly, one of the biggest we all time. Yeah, say that's fair. Such a weird guy, odd humor. You don't see the clip where he went to the reporter and she opened the door and he was like, well, you know what, that's from him being a weirdo, well sort of.
OJ at one point had a prank show, Oh Juice, Yeah, Juiced, And that is a clip from Juiced that again he produced. You you beat the most famous murder case of all time, and you are like, my, nigga, I gotta do bits about this.
Yeah, this is hilarious. Like in the way that you said, you think Terrence Howard is truly aware of the bit and all that blad up. I think that about oj Oh.
I definitely think OJ was in on the joke.
I mean so I think with OJ it's such a storied history. I would like to start because we're the same age. So as it was happening, you really weren't like how old were you? We were like nineteen years old? Right? Yeah? What is it?
Ninety ninety six? No, I think it's like ninety two, ninety three the the White Bronco Chase OJ trial timeline. Let's look it up. So the ninety October third, nineteen ninety five, the jury finds OJ Simpson not guilty. So okay, So four was the events of June twelfth, nineteen ninety four is when OJ supposedly murders everybody. Nineteen ninety four is the Bronco Yeah, so nineteen ninety four, and then ninety five is is when the case sort of like
gets resolved. So ninety four, how would where were you of it? Were seven years old?
Eight years old? Seven? This is happening.
I was aware because my dad was very sort of emphatic about this that the racism of the trial outweighed his guilt.
I agree that that was something that like five.
Yeah, but my dad, I think I've explained it before. My dad is like a Marxist and like a very sort of like anti He doesn't believe that the government has any right to to apply, you know, criminal decisions on anybody, Like it should just be sort of like put in the hands of the everyday people, Like you
murder somebody, you should get mrked kind of. Yeah. I don't think he would describe it that way, but I do think I didn't think there's there's a bit of a Venn diagram that, uh that lives inside of all of this.
But but that's sill I'll continue.
I think his point was more that, like, yeah, this dude probably did it, Like it's it's not that that may or may not be true. But more importantly, this system is sort of built to take advantage of its assignments of guilt and not guilt, if that makes sense.
I mean that is the looking at it as a grown up, right, That is the complication of the whole thing, Right, is that it almost feels like a loss for justice. But like the specifics of the trial are all so racial, right it was in la It was mostly a black jury. It was two three years after the right, you know what I mean, It was like essentially became less about did OJ do it? And more about is Mark Ferman a racist? Right? Yeah?
And Mark Ferman became a major player in it in a way that, like I'm sure the prosecution and never intended. I think, you know it. It just became a racial conversation far more than I think if this got a clean objective sort of like pass oj goes to jail, no questions asked, right like, we all go, hey, you nearly decapitated your ex wife.
That's what that is, period, and if the glove don't fit, you must have quit. That's true. Claim he was on some medicine that made his hands full.
I've heard that. I've also heard people involved very clainly, plainly state it just wasn't his glove. Certainly, the biggest argument that I personally have started to believe, and we've talked about this before on the podcast when Sean Diston was on, is that it wasn't his glove. It was his son, Jason Glove. And Jason was in fact the person who murdered Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson all
those years ago. And certainly, if you need a little bit of a reminder of all the evidence that sort of is stacked against Jason, he had a criminal history. He also had a history of mental illness, and specifically his criminal activity was related to using knives. He on multiple occasions threatened people with knives and attempted to attack people with knives. He also had an ongoing sort of feud with Nicole Brown Simpson and was constantly sort of
in this like back and forth with her. She was also meant to show up at his restaurant that evening, a restaurant where he was a waiter, and instead she opted to go to a different restaurant, which many people have claimed she took personally, or rather he took personally, and sort of The most damning of all the pieces of evidence, in my opinion, is that when OJ Simpson is notified of his wife's quote unquote passing, he immediately before even calling an attorney for himself, calls an attorney
to represent Jason, and so a lot of people believe that OJ Simpson was sort of working to cover up whatever his son had done and the sort of ault to or rather the argument for this is whether or not OJ Simpson has ever demonstrated that level of care for anyone, especially members of his family. I mean, yeah, that's the that's the counter argument.
That's the odd thing about Oj right, very odd familiar tize in relationships in general. Real weird shit with his dad right, who was possibly a homosexual. I wish i'd even say homosexual. I should just say gay. I don't know why I say it like that. It fell stop blacking. I don't know what the fuck just happened. That was crazy.
It felt like you wanted to fix it that clinical and it was really weird. It was so weird.
What the fuck? I don't even know.
Ah, hey man, you gots some hate deep in your heart.
That's crazy. I just don't you know. What it is is that I'm scared of sounding stupid on this one because so much of this is so so much of the O. J. Simpson and how you feel about it as a black person is so visceral and so guttural and like it's like, because I was really walking around kind of thinking about how I felt about this the other day, and it's like, were I of age at the time. I know what he did is so terrible socially.
I wish I could say that I would not have been excited about the verdict, but I think I would have.
Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna ask you, is where did your family stand in all of this? You're seven, eight years old? Is your mom rooting for OJ? Is she calling him a murderer in the house.
Like where Ivory. I don't think it was that big a deal left or right, because you got to think my mom is young, right, so in ninety five, if I'm seven, my mom's twenty six, And just like she also didn't have the reverence for OJ, having not grown up here, oh you know what I mean, and not caring about sports, specifically football at all. So it was just like there wasn't like a I just remember kind of an indifference. I don't remember much.
I remember my.
Auntie Teresa was way into it, but my mom's be friend. But yeah, I don't. I wasn't like made to feel any type of way left or right about it. So even when it happened, I remember not I didn't understand it. I didn't understand the magnitude of it. I didn't understand why black people were so excited. I didn't understand why white people. I just didn't. I really didn't know it. And we had a cable, so it wasn't you know, right, we're getting catchups on a current affair. It was.
It wasn't on every channel ed no, no, no, no.
Yeah. It was like and just even the world of sports, especially at the time. I don't think I even started really playing sports like that, so, like everything about it was so far away, so I really didn't have any feelings on it until I got older.
Yeah, to me, it's interesting because I don't I never cared about football and never really understood who OJ was in the scale of his actual life performance as this like athlete, right that like understood everybody was like, no, he was a great player, But I wasn't sitting here revering OJ as like the legend that he ultimately was. It was just like, oh, okay, everybody seems to care. Everyone I knew in my life was invested in this story.
And in that way, it's it's almost it was like the Alabama brol do you know what I mean, where it's just like, well, if everybody on Twitter's talking about this shit, then that's what we're talking about. And in that way, OJ was the first sort of viral meme, well before memes were even a word that we use.
Right, right, I mean, I also think that you have to be older than us to realize the impact socially like he was, you know, like a corporate shill, so his face was every you know what. He was beloved for real, Yeah, and white people like like he was he was. That's I mean, I think that's what breeds the whole I'm not black, I'm oj was.
He was so loved and such a fascinating journey in terms of like the the world of blackness, do you know what I mean? Like, you go from being like sort of this beloved, almost like neutral figure that can be put in any you can be put in a hurt commercial when you're sort of painted as like this harmless, nice guy who also crunches his head into other people's heads, and then it transitions into you being I know you hate football, Yeah no, I don't respect it at all.
How do you, guys do you.
Slamming your helmets into each other? You guys, don't tell you until your wives are scared.
It's sneaky light skin activities. Come on, man, stick to the fucking topic until you're.
But no, it's he goes from being sort of like this objectively warm figure for everybody to then being sort of kind of an exclusively white hero at one point and then turned into like this black hero, but black people didn't really like him. They were just rooting for him in terms of like what it meant to like beat the system to fucking win win one over a
system that's built for us to lose. And then he kind of becomes like a joke in a way that like white people hate him and black people don't want nothing to do with him. But like he's just living on golf courses and eating out like little white ladies. And then by the end he's doing fucking podcasts with Cameron. It's all very crazy.
Object and you got to go back to the beginning, Oh, from Petrero Hill projects. Yeah, like was in a gang as a teen and all that type of stuff.
You know what I mean, imagine recruiting OJ for your gang.
Bro. I don't think that I think that he was nothing nice as a kid, you know what I mean.
I think that like what we have is.
Years later, we don't have just like a boy child coming into his size, you know what I mean. Oh, I think it was a I think it's like it's like because you even I was going back and watching old interviews of him, because I think he went to San Francisco City College before he went to the USC, I'm pretty sure, and he went to high school in San Francisco. And I was watching old footage of him, and his demeanor is not it's not silly or cordial
or anything. He was like a pretty serious man, just like when you see And then I went and watched an interview of his old wife, what's her name, Marguerite, I believe, so describing OJ and what she thinks about him, and really all she said was like he's a very serious man. Yeah.
No, I remember watching that documentary and it was pretty clear that like that relationship had zero laughs in it.
Yeah. Yeah, So I think the brevity that we saw is maybe almost like you wonder if it's like a symptom of him, that's how he was broken.
Yeah, I mean I think it reminds me a little. And I don't want to compare the individuals and I don't want that to be conflated at all, but it reminds me a little of like remember watching that Tyson documentary where he talked about when he was like eighteen years old or sixteen years old, I can't remember, where like these these very very rich sort of like boxer expert people bring them to their giant fucking mansion to
like train or to like build a relationship. I can't remember exactly what the context is, but all he said he gets in this big ass mansion where he's now meeting some of the most major players in American boxing, Like this is this is his chance at a real future.
Always like after cuss this is like.
No, this is early. This is before he's even even before that's happened.
Oh so he's like fresh out of like he's in juvie or whatever. Yeah, this is like him.
He's he was playing with pigeons moments ago, and then they pick him up and they bring him to this mansion up state, and he says he walked in and the entire time they're talking to him, he just kept thinking about how he could rob them, Like the entire time they're sitting here telling him how like they could transform his life. He's like, I could rob these motherfuckers
right now and run off with all their shit. And it feels like that probably is where oj used to live to sae extent, and then found his way into like this. You know Jovie nice warm man who you know everybody.
Loved Was he that though? Because it doesn't. It seems like that's all pretty front facing. There's like you know what I mean, It's like, is that something he developed to deal with the public as opposed to do not reflect who he was? Well, I'll say this and we should go to break soon. I don't believe any person is that, do you know what I mean? Like, I think all of that is is a roost. Nobody is Paul Rudd all the time. R Rudd goes home and he's.
Say, it's just a positive, fun guy. But like I bet he goes home and he like fucking gets jealous and mean. And that's not to say that he's a bad person. It's just to say that, like we all have like, yeah, polls to us and to some extent, I think OJ just really map stirred one type of presentational poll in obviously, the domestic violence, the sort of like rage that he demonstrated multiple times outside of the public eye is a reflection of how much that other pole shifted in the other direction.
I I, yeah, I would agree with that. I think that he's a complicated guy. Maybe we throw it, break, we come back. It's not as funny as I hoped you would.
Be No, it's not.
It hasn't been.
I was like, we're gonna get some good bits off. I am excited because when we come back, we do have Olivia. It took some time to gather up some of the big headlines as it relates to our dear friend O. J. Simpson's passing, and I think a few of them are pretty, uh, pretty provocative. They're exciting. They'll make for good conversation. So we hope you'll rejoin us. We're sorry, it's not our funniest episode, but we're in
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We are back discussing. Oh I thought I could do the clip with a straight face.
You know what bothers me about that clip?
You tell me, how does she know that?
Do you know what I mean? How does she know that? Harriet Tubman her pop my butt, pop, pop my butt, And she immediately was no, the whip, Like, you don't know, bitch, that's not how they talked.
You don't know. You for sure she doesn't know. And also a lot of shit we did sound bad to Harriet Tubman.
Yeah, literally everything I say sounds bad to Harriet Tubman.
Yeah, I mean we can't. That's not the metric. No, Now you know who would have loved it was MLK.
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Simpson, OJ the Juice Simpson. We have a number of articles that were gathered for us by our producer Olivia. And the first one which you and I got a hearty laugh at just from reading it, and this is very exciting. It's a ABC News article that says that OJ Simpson, former football star, will be cremated, brain won't be donated for CTE research, says state state executor, which is fucking crazy, Like, you know, you just won't even give people a moment of like peace.
Oh man, I mean to be fair, What does that change?
It just lets us know that this whole time he was crazy for a reason.
That would be nice, But there's so many other factors to OJ being nuts besides ct Like I'm not listen, I'm not trying to take away from CTE. I'm saying this was a man that was You can't have the whole world come at you like that and not go crazy. No, listen, you would have gone nuts. And you've never played an aggressive sport in your life.
I played a little bit of football.
Oh I bet you did that.
That was a corner. I did all the I've never told you this story. I did all the workouts for an entire and then you quit, and then I quit right before pads and the coach fully cussed me out. I've never had an adult do this before when I was a kid, like fully cussed me the fuck out and never spoke to me again, Like would walk the halls and like ignore, like pull his head and like ignore me like a fucking bitch, like an absolute hoe. And I'll never forget it. Because he called my home
and was like, Kerman, where are you. We're waiting on you. I was like, I'm not coming, and he was like Herman, heuck you.
Oh it's so funny, but that's it's weird.
It was weird.
And he got a last name first guy.
No, And you should have known that if you wanted to really recruit me for your little game, even the way you spoke to me when you liked me made me uncomfortable. He's Kerman, where are you? I was like, I'm not gunning?
It was like, fuck you were you just like in the house?
Just hell yeah, I was chilling. I had a little I probably had a little date set up. I was gonna go do my thing.
And here he is.
We got a three a day set up and you're you're am I, hey.
Bitch, I'm not coming to that. Oh man, that's so funny. I did you even like playing football? Though I can't. You don't seem what you would have enjoyed it. I think I was.
If I'm being completely honest, I think I was more fearful of it than enjoying it, Like you're afraid of getting hurt. Yeah, I never I never made it to pad, so I never really got like the full experience. So I think whatever that, the the looming fear of that in my head outweighed the enjoyment of like the activity itself. If that made sense.
Yeah, I get that. I get that. I understand it's not you.
I also think defense sort of is a different kind of game.
Than you, know what I mean, Like, defense is so fun.
I believe you. I think like if I were if I were running back or a wide receiver or some shit. You kind of feel like the goals are more clearly achievable, Like I run my route, I catch the ball.
I maybe I don't think I don't see you going over the middle. I think you have cornerback energy. Yeah. No, I think I'll take that as you will.
I don't take it personally, And I will say I think part of what made him mad was I was pretty good at it during like the summer training shit, Like I wasn't bad. Yeah, and like the all the the sort of like the workouts and like a lot of the stuff, I was demonstrating a lot of the skills that would make for a good cornerback, And so he was kind of hoping to have me, you know, for real play, And now I'm not coming.
He's like, I will.
Murder your family.
But it's not about me.
It's about our dear friend Juice and whether or not his brain should be donated. And I truly think it's insane that a person and I agree with you, he's been crazy. He would have been crazy with or without the CTE. But I think you gotta give people at least a little bit of peace to know that, like YO, some of these antiques, some of this behavior was rooted in a brain damage situation and not just a loose goose out on.
I mean, do you think, what do you think the level is of that? Because he kind of had wild behavior prior to like it was exhibited his whole life. It's not like it just showed up at some point.
I think if we're accounting for one hundred percent of his crazy, right, if we're saying that he was one hundred percent crazy, I would say fifty person of that with CT Wow. Really I think a good half of it was CTE.
Yeah wow, I don't think.
I don't think he would have murdered two people with CT right or without the CTE. Okay, I think he would have beat the shit out of two people without the CT.
I mean, but you kind of also think it's Sun did it. Yeah, So if it Sun did it, then what does CT lie.
Well, I don't, let me be clear, I believe that his son did the physical action. I don't believe that OJ wasn't there that night. I think that OJ was very much a part of it, and it just was his son who took it all the way.
Do you know what I mean.
But I do think that like OJ was kind of like a liaison inside of this murder, which I think takes as much insanity as literally, you know, carving a person's head nearly off, okay.
But then once his son's excuse, maybe crazy just runs in the family.
I think there's probably a history a mental illness inside of their family. I think that's fair to say. I don't.
I don't know how much I talk. I don't. I just don't. I mean, CT is a possibility, but I think that there's a lot of NFL players X, current and future who don't go on killing spree, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but I bet they got a little less CT than he got it. I bet they didn't have fifty percent, and they were probably regular guys which were fair fifty a number that came out of nowhere from you, Like you said, I'm a pretty good researcher, all right, But yeah, no, I it is.
It's it's odd though that they're like, nah, we don't want to know what was in there.
I just think that's crazy. I will also say that the executor, which I read this independent of some of the articles that Olivia.
Said, you did your own research.
I did some independent research, and one of the things the executor said after O Jay's death was that Bron Goldman's family will never see a fucking dime from the OJ in state.
He said.
He said, especially the Goldman family. He like went out out of his way to be like, fuck those people who lost their son, suck a dick. Ron Goldman's family, You'll never see a fucking dime. And then he kind of like a few days later, walked it back and was like, hey, y'all, I was, We're all real upset. Juice was gone. I just said some stuff.
I don't.
Honest, I'm at a party.
My dog. I mean, man, Well, let's talk about this next one, because that is that is the next headline that we were going to talk about anyway.
Yeah, OJ Simpson died one hundred and fourteen million dollars in debt to Ron Goldman's family, and legal battle looms. The attorney says Simpson and old Goldman and Brown's family thirty three point five million after he was found liable
in a wrongful death suit in nineteen ninety seven. Now, one of the things that I know to be true again, I do my own independent research is that when OJ Simpson was hit with this major charge after the death of Ron Goldman and losing this civil suit, he was able to basically claim bankruptcy right like he had spent all his money on these trials, he didn't have any of the liquid cash to be able to pay them.
And one of the things that they ended up having to I guess like leverage as a way of reclaiming those funds is the autobiography If I Did It, that OJ wrote, memoir that OJ wrote, And so when you listen to the auto to the book on tape of If I Did It, there's actually a one hour preamble from Ron Goldman's sister explaining that this book is now in their possession, like they own the rights to it, and it is ruining their life because people will not
stop accusing them of trying to profit off of their family member's death, even though this is the only way that they can actually make real money from OJ Simpson given his current state.
Man, it's dark. That is a terrible everything. This whole situation. Nobody won No. I don't think that it was like a brutal murder happened, committed by whoever you want and everyone involved lotched out terribly, except I don't know. I think they got him. I like, he still ended up going to prison, his life spiral. It's not like he just walked and then it was like he didn't go on to live the life he was going to lead. Yeah. Maybe, I guess.
One of the things I wonder, and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, is like how much of that is by our standards of living? Do you know what I mean?
That?
Like, at the end of the day, this dude went out playing golf every day and getting to make his little Twitter videos, And I wonder if he was just that crazy of a person that like that that's all he wanted, do you know what I mean? Like that's all he needed. And we're just putting all these expectations of well, your family and and your kids. It's complicated and you're you know what I mean, Like you didn't get to live the life you want to lead. Blah blah blah.
I think regardless, I don't think he wanted to go to prison for nine years. No, I don't think he did either. But I bet he thrived in jail. Oh man, I don't what's thriving, not not being I don't think he was having I think he was in prisoned for nine year, you know what I'm saying. Even at the top of that, it's still he was imprisoned. I'm just saying I don't think he got away with it clean. I don't think it was like who all right back to doing OJ, you know what I'm saying.
But again, this is where I guess when we disagree.
And I also think that's like I think that all the videos and shit like that that's presentation to the world is just that, like he was Paul rudding it. I guess you think there was just a really happy guy at the end.
Then I again, this is where we disagree, is like I do think that there was a big period where he was just back to doing OJ and then like in between before he goes to jail again, he he loses all his money. That stinks, but he gets to move to Florida and he immediately I remember these headlines the immediate had like two new girlfriends, both of whom looked fucking spitting image to Nicole, Like, I think some of it was just like a brain he made a
fucking prank show. He had a Sola Dad O'Brien special where he finally pretended to confess, and it wasn't in confession at all. It was just him being up there and being like, man, whoever did this, we got to catch him, Sola Dad, Like, I think, I think if he were talking about a person being in on the bit, and I do genuinely believe he was in on the bit. This is a dude who kind of got to live the way he wanted to live, even when the repercussions tried to beat the shit out of him.
I mean, I guess it's difficult because I don't know how he wanted to do it. I mean, I guess fucking hoes, golfing, That's all I'm saying.
I think he just wanted to be fucking hoes and playing golf, and he got to do both of those things pretty frequently. Yeah, after nine years in prison, after nine years in prison, and I bet as far because of how big of a major player he was in the in the world, right, Like, he had such a big imprint in everybody's life to the point that you stop even feeling bad for the victims of his murder.
Which is true. It's unfortunate. I do. I do. It is unfortunate in that I do not think of even less than Nicole Ron. Ain't nobody thinking about Ron at all at all?
And again we're not celebrating that.
I don't want to know. I understand that it's a murder.
That's a terrible thing, but it's just not even They don't even bring Ron up half the time.
No, no, it's not.
It's not nobody's thinking about Ron. So I don't think he went to jail and like people were like, fuck you, Oj, you're a wife killer, you're.
This, You're that.
They were just like, bro OJ Simpson is next door, right, I love those shoes. That's fucking crazy, naked gun, motherfucking neck door OJ.
Juicers, you can play football and baseball. I don't even remember Oj, No, that's before our time, But that was the shoes he had. It wasn't even I think it was like an independent chew. I don't think it was even like Nike or Reebok or Pony or anything like that.
Just juicers.
I think it was just the juicers.
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Hey man, I tried to click on that oj juicter and my whole shit collapse. Whoa, my inn, it's just closed.
Wow, even from heaven, my man, it's like chill out.
That's where do you think he's at?
M No, no, no, I think O Jay is somewhere else that I don't know what I where I think he is And I don't think that's it's important, but no, it's not. I don't think he'll have an eternity of bliss. I'd say that was did you see that online? It was rest, It was trending rest in hell.
Yeah.
I don't love that stuff. I mean, because here's the thing.
That doesn't happen when like kissing your eyes, you know what I'm saying, Like, people don't go like there is an aspect to the hatred that is truly a black man murder and a white woman. Right. Yeah.
I think in general too, I just don't love when we like fucking celebrate a dead person. It feels and I know that feels maybe like I'm trying to like be a weird PC. Hey, that's not nice whatever, but it's it's honestly more like, you know what bugs me about it is like, uh, dying kind of feels like a type of victory that we're being losers about when we celebrated. Do you know what I mean? Like, when you die, you're not tracking what we're saying about you.
You're not getting to like you're not getting to them, you know what I mean. OJ's not gonna read the tweets and be like, fuck, everybody's mad at me or didn't like me. They're just gonna be like they're not here no more.
It's performative to us.
Yeah, it's just us performing sort of like our almost our most vile nature to each other. And it's like, I don't know, man, we kind of just gotta let people die and move on, good or bad. It feels odd to be like I miss you so much or I fucking hated your guts the whole time. You just kind of have to be like, well, that's finished.
Yeah, he's gone. I mean that is It's just it is crazy and like I understand in my gut though when I see that, it does feel racial, you know what I mean, I don't think like I don't think that. And that's the hard thing with the whole OJ thing is like everything he did is like terrible, yeah, terrible, but you feel like he's being it's it's incrementally worse because of how he looks, even even with the even with the beating the charge, you know what I mean.
That's the only reason you feel some sort of like like I said in my gut, with the with the like not guilty thing. As an adult, you come to be like damn at least somebody got off, you.
Know what I mean.
And it goes back to that, like it's almost like it's odd because he's used to represent a system that I don't feel like he necessarily wanted to be a part of.
No, he Let's be clear, oj didn't like being black. He didn't like having these associations, certainly not throughout the bulk of his life and career. But and it's this isn't a new thought, but it is sort of a factual one. Is like, at the end of the day, he did represent sort of an overcoming of a system that is truly built against black and brown people objectively. Literally, our police system is built on the idea of recapturing slaves. It's not this isn't a just program that we've set
up in any way or fashion. And so oja sort of like getting to overcome that was just a reflection of everybody celebrating and overcoming more than even just a celebration of like a black man and his blackness was like, nah, man, we just fucking lose every time. So it's nice to see it's ocean's eleven. It's nice to see somebody beat the house and just walk away. From the ship.
And that's truly I guess the sad state of affairs within all this is like to have that, to have that feel like a wind is such a dark representation of everything, you know what I mean. And it does feel like that to me, you know, you know, for better or words, it does feel like that.
And if we want to take even a bigger step back, I don't know that this case becomes this case if OJ murders his first wife, you know what I mean, if her, this black lady from fucking Oakland gets murdered along with her black ass side piece.
Uh, it could have been a light skinned guy. They're known for people's wife. Don't that's okay? Hey, I identify black ass too. I don't know if that's okay with you, but but that's what's in my heart. Oh welcome, were watching football leader? No, no, no, we want.
But point being, I think, you know, the case becomes the case because of sort of the racial implications inside of so much of it. OJ becomes the polarizing figure because of the racial implications. You can't have the conversation without having the conversation about OJ's race. Even at the points when OJ wasn't ready to acknowledge his race inside of it. So it's unfortunate. I wish that like this could just be one of those classic funny murder trials that have nothing to.
Do with true crime, nothing to do with race.
It's just it's just a man doing a bad thing to a couple people, and we move on with our lives.
Yeah, I mean, and I do think ultimately that is the difficulty of this whole thing is that systemically what's a win for the bigger picture is not always because in no way is just a win. I don't want to I know we've been laughing, but this is like a terrible thing that happened. It's a terrible thing that happened. And it's also no I'll keep laughing whatever. It was a terrible things screwing right now. Can't even see his eyes reddish, Hugh is, his face rushers with blood. He's so happy.
But we cherished the moments we did get with Ojay. We hate to see our friend pass, but we cherished the time we spent with him because he contributed so fucking much to to just the last.
Yeah, I really wanted this to be funnier than it was.
I'm sorry that it wasn't.
Did you think it was gonna be funnier. I thought so.
I thought we'd just be silly about it, And instead it felt like we were being responsible the whole time. And and I'm sorry that happened.
I'm sorry, y'all. It's like we need to be more flipping about murder. And listen, Lacey and I we're you know I'm being worse guys.
Yeah, well, certainly, I'm I'm working on it. I think Bory ebbs and flows on his commitment to to coming to the to the devil's side.
I don't even know if that's a compliment or not.
I don't know that it is either. I'm I'd like for you to join me. I'd like for you to nut up and join me. And instead every week you keep telling me how you've joined a church.
That's never happened. First of all, relax.
Say, brother, have you heard the good word? Come on, what are you talking?
Sometimes somebody buys one bike, gets in a relationship, and all of a sudden, he can't be a bad guy anymore. Yeah, I don't like that. Look at me.
I keep expanding my family and digging further into the dirt. That feels like the way you're supposed.
To do it. That's what that that's what that turbutes clearly honous with dying.
Yeah, uh, we miss you, Juice, and we hope wherever you are, which unfortunately is not.
Heaven, could understand that. We hope.
We hope. If nothing else, y'all take care, you know, and by y'all we mean you. You want to tell the people where they can find you and what cool shit you have going on?
Yeah, why don't you come to a comedy show after come see me too, stand up comge my special. I'm very funny. No OJ jokes, no not, I've never had I've never got I've never had Joe. I got to know Jjo. Really yeah, I got one. I just wrote.
Actually not pre his death, you were just thinking about him anyways. No, literally, me and my wife listened to the book on tape together and.
I just got that's sweet. You guys like sit and listen to it like in the kitchen.
Well the bit was that we did it to save our marriage. Whoa you know, like you're sitting with your girl and it it gets like quiet, but like quiet in a way that like that too quiet, that like if somebody doesn't talk, soon one of us is gonna start cheating on the other person.
No, that's not I'm not there.
Oh you'll get there. Take your time, young man, you'll find yourself there.
No mood to get to where you are, you know.
Anyway, Yeah, that's sometimes you gotta feel that quiet and it turns out if I did it, it's a pretty good feel.
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