A spum. Going through a vagina is like trying to walk through a hookah bar in Atlanta, Like you really might not between the smoke and dad bitches and niggas were guns and like maybe a hoverboard that might be boost on the ground, Like something's gonna happen. Hey, you've got a lot of obstacles to get through the floor's lava, and you gotta get the funk through this hookah bar and essentially become the greatest leader to ever leave if you can make it to the end. Chips in your
racists money stuff, I can't tell me. Yeah, welcome late, he's in gentlemen to an exceptional, a devastating, a thick booty episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast where we died deep, deep into the crevices of black conspiracy theories, and we worked to prove that Alicia Keys may not wear makeup on her face, but she absolutely puts makeup on her feet. She gotta only fans and she's posting feet picks with makeup on them. Tell the people, Alicia, we know it's you. Stop pretending like this is some
other lady. That's you, Alicia. You put makeup on your feet and we know it. I'm your host, Lankston Kerman. As always, I'm excited to be here. What an exciting time we have, mainly because my guest today is one of the funniest people I know. If he's so funny, he's responsible for a pretty much every cool trend that's ever existed on the Internet. He was so funny at one point that Twitter asked him politely to leave. They were like, this, nigga's too funny. He gotta get the
funk out of here. But then they let him back in and he's still being hilarious. You guys know him, you love him. Give it up for my guest, Mr Zach five. Hello, Hello, what's up? Yeah? What I've done? I'm killing man. I'm over here in Atlanta, Man, just like drinking juices and the rain, like bird scooter and around. This is exciting just listening things you could have done in l A, but you're like, no, I'm doing in Atlanta.
I'm doing it in Atlanta. Yea. So now, what are there like special juices in Atlanta that you're like, it's happy to have, you know, gone back and be able to experience again. Is there anything? Yeah, there's a spec. There's a juice shop out here called Kill Me Crazy, which is awful, terrible name, but um, the girls who worked at the one by Me are like you could just tell they're like they're just so over it, like to just like really cool, just Atlanta chicks. You're like,
they're like Nigga, which you want and your juice? Like don't like tumeric? Okay, what next? Like okay stirrelina, Like they make it with such attitude that it's a better juice experience. I feel like I feel like I agree. You know, there's nothing there's something about someone being mean to you when you order something that makes you feel like, well, this is gonna be worth it is because it's like, well I better enjoy this because they don't give a
fun right, they don't give a funk. This felt like a fistfight just ordering a basic item. So this is probably gonna be the best experience that I have eating. Yeah, I feel like there is a a paralyzing aspect of hospitality. You like, sometimes when things are too nice, you don't really uh feel grateful for it, you know what I mean? Like you you should be able to you should have to struggle for nice things sometimes right, it's a hunter
gatherers ship in us, you know what I mean? Like we used to have to really murder something to enjoy a meal, and now we it's just sort of laid in front of us, and it feels like we always deserve this. But those small moments kind of bring us back to that animalistic energy where it's like, Damn, I had to I had to get cussed the funk out so that I can enjoy some kill drinks. Gonn, this matters to me. That's why I'm open a vegan restaurant. Uh where you know you gotta get jumped just to
finish your meal. Wait, they don't. So you're saying they don't jump you to get the meal. It's just at some point in the mill, at some point you're gonna have to protect You're gonna have to protect yours and if you're not ready for that, then maybe you shouldn't be trying to. Maybe you just need to go up to McDonald's and like experience the easy fast food. But this helps, You're gonna have to earn it around here, boy, you better go back and get your radiated burger mode.
Want this here, you want beyond me. You're gonna have to get this beyond me. You can stop. You're getting hands dog. I love that. I love that so much. And if there's anything I can do to help fund your restaurant without getting jumped, I'd happily do that. I do need money. Yes, well, I think this episode is not going to help us get any money today. I think that this episode actually has the potential to make us lose quite a bit of money if we if we're being honest, because you came to me with a
conspiracy theory that terrifies the ship out of me. But you said, and I want to quote you here, you said, my mama told me white people were invented by an ancient black scientist. Yes, who yea, just that thing can tell me more. It's probably the most dangerous subject matter
that we could decide to drive into. But it's also the funniest and the most uh the most right to be like a manga better than novelto I feel like, yes, oh my god, yes, Because even when I told Nikki about it, right, I told my wife, like, yo, this is the the conspiracy theory that that Zach was talking about. She was like, that should be a show, and I was like, nah, it can't be no show. But also,
you're right, it should be a show. It's one of those things that it literally cannot be a show just because it's so like both sides, white and black would be so upset by it, because there are people who genuinely believe it, and there are people who are genuinely like, this is crazy. This is the most offensive thing I've ever experienced. But if it was an anime, it would just be like if it was even just a live action movie, it probably sell Lord of the Rings. I
don't I don't disagree with that. I think that this has the potential to be one of the greatest box office hits of all time if only people could put their pride side and just except that maybe a black
scientist inventing white people is a fascinating fucking story. It's fascinating if we could get rid of the hate behind it and behind all those things, all those nasty things that everybody talks about on a daily basis, and uh, if we can just look past that and look at how funny and great the story is and how like chock full of science fiction gold it is, then it would be so good. It would be good. It'd be good. It's a perfect story. So tell me. Let's let's start
from the beginning. Where where did you first hear this theory, this suggestion. So contrary to the title of your podcast, my mom didn't tell me this. My mom is a very staunch Southern Baptist Christian woman who would never believe in something as crazy as a guy. Uh, this wasn't This wasn't popping up in church when y'all were going as kids. I mean, you know, Christians, we got our own. You know, I'm not a Christian, but girl, I grew up in the church. So I say our because it's
like I was shooting in the jim. But you know, we have our we have our own, like weird. Everybody knows we have our own. Were we drink blood and it's great, Like that's weird. But yeah, a man claimed that God told him to, you know, stab his son in the middle of the desert when he was like and then he was like he was really gonna do that, right? Weird how we supposed of all going together now he
was acting like that. Weird. But yeah, I first heard this theory from when I was super little, like maybe five or six. My mom used to let me just kind of like hang out in our neighborhood. In our neighborhood was like super rundown, but like very multicultural, and it was just like poor working class white, black and Latino people in Savannah. And I used to hang out with these group of dudes who would just hang out and like drink natty light and uh and smoke bad
cigarettes and eat sunflower seeds all day. And one's name was Bobby and he looked like Charles Manson. And the another dude's name, I should you not. His name on the street was Biscuit, and he was this dirty blond, white dude with ipat who wore a black wife beater and jeans shorts every day us. And well, first of all, let me just say how happy I am that Biscuit was a white dude with an ipatch and not what I immediately presumed, which was a big as black man's comforting.
Yeah he was, Yeah, he was switching up everything. Um, this guy outsold everybody. So uh. They hung out with this black do in the neighborhood named Joe and Joe one day, like they would sit and talk about conspiracy stuff. And I was a kid like, I didn't know what they were talking about, but I would just kind of sit around and listen, and you know, one day Bobby was like, oh, well, you know, in the year twelve, the magnetic poles of the Earth they're gonna switch and
it's gonna cause the apocalypse. And then Biscuit was like, oh, well, didn't y'all know that the Illuminati do this? And da da da. So Joe had to come with his you know, he had to come with some heat. And he was like, well, both of y'all shut up because did y'all know that we and then the y'all and it was like a bomb went off the side of my head. I was like, Joe, what Joe? Joe. Joe didn't really say nothing crazy like that on a regular basis. He would just kind of like,
you know, spit some flower seeds and you know. But he came with some heat. So I was like what And they were like, what are you talking about? And he introduces the story of Yakubu, which was a nation of Islam. It's nation an islam source material um written by uh It was it was expanded on by Elijah Mohammed, but hoble Um and yeah, you just proceeded to tell them like a very a shortened bridge drunk country Nigga version of that story. And uh, I was kind of
like changed forever. Mow. You said Joe was a quiet guy. I love that that. Joe was just sort of sitting back letting these guys talk amongst themselves every day because secretly he knew, Man I invented y'all, y'all ain't even real. You're you're subset of some ship that I already am. So go ahead, talk, you're crazy talk exactly to even
sit there and watch them spit their conspiracy theories. I saw him just he had this look in his eyelight, you're stupid motherfucker's I'm about to hit y'all with some crazy ship. Oh you think twelve is a thing? Get the fun out? Yeah, okay, okay, alright, biscuit, okay, aluminaity, we get now. I got some ship for you. You ain't a real human, biscuit bits, you are the second
draft of humans. But then, like you know, the strange effect of it was watching them called his theory crazy when you know we're all out that they were all out there saying wild stuff. You know what I mean, like from assassination theories too. You know, this was shortly after tupacs, so they were coming with two pop theories and stuff, and you know the fact that this guy was like white people were invented by ancient scientists with a giant head. They were like, well, that's just silly.
Now you're being ridiculous. And I was on Joe side when I was like, well why not. Okay, okay, now you're getting into something fascinating because you're saying that. When Joe said this, you know, Biscuit and Uh and the other gentleman whose name I don't remembers gonna living met Bobby Uh, they immediately are like, NA, get the funk out of here. But that wasn't your instinct. My first instinct was to be like, Okay, that's insane. But it wasn't even that I believed that what he was saying.
Just like Joe, the way he looked like, I don't even know whose family Joe was in. He was just like an older black dude with a salt and pepper beard who was just like a Southern dude. And and me being from the South, it was like, man, I'm gonna just take his side, because just getting an elder
quality to yeah, whether he's wrong or right. I was just like, man, I gotta just I gotta stick with this guy because you're talking about the magnetic poles and you're talking about the Illuminati, and he's talking about a big head scientist so um, and he's black, so I'm I'm a stand over here, So I kind of stood over next to him, I mean, and honestly, of the three options, his is the the least scary, do you
know what I mean? Like, if you're telling me that the world is going to end, one of you was saying that the fucking apocalypse is coming. The other one is saying that, like there is an organization that decides every move that I make out in the world. And this dude's just saying, you know, you ain't exactly real people, but otherwise, like you can still be happy and exist and talk all your ship and we can enjoy some flower seeds in thatty light. Yeah exactly. And it was
like that whole like birden of proof thing. They were like, you can't prove that that happened, and he was like, well, you can't prove that it didn't happen, and and that music played. The music played, and you know, Bobby and Biscuit, they're both war vets. Bobby was in Vietnam and Biscuit had just done he just came from like desert storm. But I was too young to remember all that. But right, they were both war Vets and they were drunk as fun.
So that basic logical fallacy that Joe hit them with they didn't know how to argue with, which it's a very simple thing. It's a simple thing to argue. But they were just like, damn, you got a point. We can't really not prove. It's like he did that got your nose ship And they couldn't see their nose from their eyes. They're like, I don't know if you got my nose. I can't tell. So to see someone like bested by that, you know, in hindsight, I was like, damn, man,
he really he won the fight. Well, that's such a fascinating element to all conspiracy theory, right, is that it really is just a game of who can prove their point in the moment. It isn't like who can ultimately prove their point through research and science and in fact based findings. It's just like, okay, who can make their argument sound enough in this exact moment that you essentially
build an acolyte. You build somebody who's then going to follow your logic and spread that theory to someone else. Conspiracy theories and discussing them is a lot like roasting, where yeah, getting everyone on your side. It's more important
to have everyone on your side. And when in the moment, like you're talking, it's like you might even you might say a joke that don't even make sense about somebody, you know what I mean, This thinker built like racado toast, And then everybody's like, it's like they just doesn't mean anything. That doesn't mean anything, but you you're just getting your glass book. Like in the moment, right, avocado toast isn't
shaped any different than any other toast. This isn't like it's you just added a little qualifier to it and somehow it's way funnier. So you're the best. Then this person sucks and now people are like, oh, well, what the avocado toast shape? Nick, don't say, And then if you say that doesn't make sense, then they're gonna go, oh this thinking mad now, like look at you avocado toast wanna shape most out exactly. I I totally agree.
I think that that it does have this quality of just like who can you convinced in the moment, and if you can do it effectively, then you are the winner of conspiracy theory or roasting or whatever, you know, sort of like, uh, that's what religion is sort of you know what I mean. It's just like who the funk was listening at the time that the best dude was talking, and then somebody decided to write that down.
Who wrote it down, and who's writing survived through history through different ship getting conquered, through different ships, getting burnt down, through natural disasters, you know, in a way like any
religion that exists still today. It's like the sperm that one kind of namic where I'm like, bro, y'all went through all of history and nobody cracked you all out, like yes, because you know, even if we're thinking about that anatomically, like the woman's vagina is literally built with like acids things to keep sperm from surviving, and yet a sperm regularly, you know, as proof through pregnancy is able to somehow navigate all that and make a child.
That's what religion is. And that's the crazy part in a lot of ways is as much as you know, you and I can both agree that that's a wild concept and introduction, we can also point to a lot of other wild concepts in much more widely accepted religions, right, And so the difference in the way that it's accepted is really determined by the people in charge more than it is, like that this one so much crazier than
that one, if that makes sense. You know, whether I believe any of this ship or not, which I don't, don't, I don't any any Uh, everyone's gonna be But I'm like, who am I going to make matt first with what I'm saying? Um yeah, Like I'm not a spiritual guy like you know, but I do think is it's are needed and it's very necessary and it's fun to, uh to dive into mythology and like what makes people attached
themselves to mythology so vehemently? And then how does that mythology affect how a culture interacts with the world around them, because it's a very real thing, you know. Um So I love just reading creation stories and you know the way, uh, certain cultures think that the world was built and how it was built and what God gave what to who and what humans were in relation to that, because that's
very important. So when I see people online, like especially in researching Yakoub, when you see people online who I'm sure grew up Catholic or Jewish, or maybe they weren't national Islam, they were regular Islam, but uncut common, maybe they were something else. But to see people go to see people ridicule it, like right out, like this is so ridiculous, and so how could anyone ever believe this? And I'm like, but that's what all of us do.
All of us, even if you're not spiritual, you believe in some kind of mythology exactly, I think to your point, that's also I wish that more people were able to approach these conversations and certainly religion, even with that same level of whimsy, if you will, do you know what I mean, Like, even if you believe it, which is fine, I'm not here to decide whether or not that's a good or bad thing, but you should be having fun in this, like some of it is just an allegory,
So like, let the allegory be fun instead of it being like this permanent fixture in the way that you always approach every conversation. It's absurd. Absolutely. I think we have to approach it like that because if we don't, then then the future is bleak because nothing can stop then, say, uh Ron James or Batman from becoming the next thing that people the next thing that people kill each other for.
You know what I mean, Like, if we don't stop and look at like the fact that like humans are flawed and shouldn't be worshiped, and you know, I would just getting rid of like human deification because talking about God is such a way bigger conversation about if we can at least get to the point where it's like, Okay, humans are trash. Religion is funny. You're still allowed to believe in it, but it's funny. It's just and and we shouldn't replicate things that have happened like in the past,
and the way to do that is in comedy. To your point, Lebron James is an exceptional athlete, is a human being unlike most human beings on this planet Earth. But he also is a motherfucker who doesn't read. Will talks not great? Do you know what I mean? Like it's he's not. He has flaws, and so we should be able to celebrate the man for his gifts while simultaneously laughing at a motherfucker who stutters through a statement
about black lives matter. And so if we can meld those two, we can have an honest reflection of the human being that he is instead of, like you said, uh, deifying him and creating some dangerous space where like my grandkids are gonna grow up like making the cross with
the basketballers. Well, I mean holy Market. Yeah, there's literally nothing in my mind stops me from believing that if Lebron James actually lived two thousand years ago today we would live in a world where you, before every major event, clap white dust in your hands and like maybe like maybe, like boys when they're born, you're not allowed to have
a hairline until like you become a man. Like they shaved your hairline all the way back until you're eighteen, and then now you're allowed to have it, but you have to put on a headband until you gotta put you gotta put a wig on. And it's not a good way. You gotta you gotta sort of tie it down loosely. Y. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I have no Lebron James would have dunked on Jesus, you know what I mean, Like he's he's six eight, Jesus was a good five three.
These motherfuckers weren't gonna be able to compete in any sort of physical activities, and so of course Lebron would have become our new God. But that doesn't that's not the right thing. Let's let's just be honest and laugh at all of it. But can we just talk about how funny it would be to have a stained last portrait of Jesus of Jesus on the cross, but there's a basketball hoop above his head where the found of corn of crowns is and it's Lebron ducking like Jesus
is having a bad day already. God, But ship Hooper has got a hoop, you know what I mean, Lebron ceo hoop. He gotta do his thing. He's dunking on Jesus like he's doing like what was that basketball player back in the day who dunked and like put his nuts on the dude's head And it was like the first time that happened and professional, Yeah, I feel like I know it's not. It's not Larry Johnson, but I feel like it's like that energy of like a grandmama
type disrespect of like the people you're playing against. Le Bronze evil, be an evil counterpart. I'm about to hit up the photo shop, Homies and and and tell them to make that this is really important work that we're doing here, and I can't wait to see the product of all we're pushing things forward. I think so by getting Jesus dunked him, we are making the world a better place. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a break and then we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more,
my mama told me. And we are back. Oh yeah, we are back here with more. My mama told me more Zach Fox. We're still talking about this wild theory that the White Man was created by an ancient black scientist, and we're arguing possibly that it isn't as wild as it originally seen. Yeah, but we also have to be careful. And then I want to get right into the research because I do think that this is also going to ground a fair amount of this for our listeners who may or may not be aware of where all of
this comes from. But I, in doing my research, found a bunch of moments where I was legit terrified at the things that I discovered, like legit both in terms of this conversation and the possible the fruit of Islam coming to seek retaliation for anything that I was about to say, but then also finding myself starting to and I want to be careful when I say this, Yes, you do buy into some of the arguments that were
being made from the things that I was reading. Right, Yes, so let's jump right in the Nation of Islam argues in a I guess it's sort of a subscripture, right, like, because it's scripture, but it's scripture that we know the source from. And he like literally just died recently, so
it's a little bit of a different conversation. But basically, the argument is that Yakub, who was a supposed scientist, existed sixties six hundred years ago and created white people on an island basically as an experiment in an effort to create a more perfect being. Is that track for you, Yeah, to dive a little bit more into it. So Yakub is an alien being. So there was a ancient Earth m hm. There is believed to be a by multiple
UH subcultures, religious sex. There's believed to be a civilization or a group of civilizations beneath the Earth that came from other places, or maybe they were already here. And Yakub was actually I believe like he's he's mixed from two of those alien races um and the entire origin of like everyone who lived on the surface of the planet was considered ebanoid or just black. They were just
black people. So by the time Yakub was a kid and he was living in the area believed to be Mecca and Wallace Bard's Mohammed's work, he's he claims that up to thirty percent of Uh ebanoid people were dissatisfied with how they were living. Um. So, so he has this, he starts to build this And I want to dig into a few things that you're saying, because the alien part of this is very important in that every description that you read about yah Cube ends with talking about
how big his head was. Yes, like nobody like they don't mention yah Cub in any way without being like that nigger had a big His head was big as and they claimed that not only was it physically big, but he also was a very arrogant man who while studying in Mecca and studying under like the teachings of Mohammed, he basically was like, nah, funk this, I've learned everything
I need to know. And that's when he starts to talk to this thirty percent as you call it, of people who are dissatisfied, not happy with the way things are going. Yeah, and then his arrogance, you know, Yahkub, the size of his head was a lot of reason for him to be picked on or made fun of in school. And he had a very, very a seed of hatred for the Ebony race. He hated them, and he told his father one day, Um, his father asked
him meAll, hey, what are you doing? He said, one day, I'm gonna create a race of people to conquer you and destroy you. And his dad was like, shut up, which is what a black parent would do if you said something like that to a black parent, like shut the gets your ass out of it. But do Kub was was serious. He was dead serious. M hm. And so with that he takes and this is sort of
again the argument of the scripture. He takes fifty nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine black people to a private island where to basically, uh, basically Sandals, Jamaica. He takes them to Sandals, Jamaica, and they start working to now cross breed and basically do some sort of like cross pollination of the black species to create a more perfect being which ultimately leads to white people. Right, yeah, Yeahkoub said that there is a black gene and a brown
gene and every black human being. So what his method was was to breed out the black gene and get as much of the brown and whittle down to the brown. And the way he would do that was was just literally like a lady would have babies and the lighter one would be kept and the black ones would be um shipped to another island. I guess I don't want to get into how they murdered him. Yeah, I like that you tried to make this story. It was like, yeah, the dog, the dog went to a different farm to
be happy. He is. He's a Chicago baby. He's uh daddy, Uh your daddy. He oh he got he in the music business Man music Big album. Uh and on the album dropped, You're gonna see him again. That's where the guy. They'll be back. Um. Yeah, so yeah, they killed all the black babies. They killed the black babies. They would throw them, uh into the ocean, they would kick them, they would do all this things stuff. And the crazy part about the story is, yeah, Club didn't even live
to see his work be completed. It was his uh, his assistance and like his team and his agents actually helped complete the process because he died when he was one hundred and fifty two years old, and by that time, he had only accomplished getting a race of people who are like me and light stones, just like he got some light skin motherfucker's out there, but they weren't white yet. They weren't the perfect species that he was sort of
trying to create. And I think it's important you landed on something that I think is really important for us to dig further into because by his argument, uh, he's trying to create these white people and it ends up being in the argument of the scripture a six hundred year process that it takes six hundred years. Yeah, Cuba only lives to one fifty two, so he basically is
there for like what almost a fifth of the time. Uh. And in this process there are arguments because I know that you're sort of referring to yah Cuba is sort of like this devilish guy, this evil guy. That's the argument that people are having. But there are alternative arguments that claim that yah Cube wasn't in fact evil, He didn't actually intend to create white people. His vision got usurped by lighter skinned and ultimately white people who then
created themselves from his practices. If that makes sense, that does, yes, that's that is the two sided argument of yakub was a trickster. You know, his Ya Cube's um his science what's called tricknology, which, yeah, which is the fact that that's not a trick daddy album. Ahad is this man ad all. He's had a twenty year opportunity to name an album trick knowledge. He had the whole window, and he's blowing it. He's blow it. Fuck you, trick daddy.
If you ain't gonna take advantage of the opportunities later, fuck you somebody will he ushould be ashamed of yourself. Trick Daddy, tricknology? Come on, man, come on, bro, that was it? That was it? You know, And yeah, there's different takes on it. Some people are like, yeah, he used trichnology to manipulated, which he had to. He had to use tricknology to manipulate sixty thou black people into letting him, you know, use them for a selective breeding project, um,
which he called grafting. But yeah, he would have to use some sort of line or trickery. Yes, okay. So here's where the trickery started to get to me. And and this is where I think I started to feel not only uncomfortable, but also terribly excited in a way
that I've never experienced before. I started reading some information that argues that Europeans today, as we understand them, whiteness as we recognize it, actually is only about eight thousand years old that Europeans of Old Old Earth are in fact unrecognizable compared to their white counterparts of today. Talking about you're talking about anthropological evidence exactly. Yes, this isn't
coming from Elijah Maham, the honorable Mohammed. This is coming from actual scientific based research that says that basically this is a very recent development, including like blue eyes, which is a genetic mutation that developed somewhere in the range of six thousand to ten thousand years ago. Now where it aligns is that the Nation of Islam argues that Yakub existed sixty six hundred years ago. So just mathematically, some of that ship is mathing up, you know what
I mean, he's in the window is exactly. Yeah. And the even scarier part is there aren't a lot of clear explanations other than migration as to why these very formal changes started to happen. Now, obviously, you could argue that migration is a major part of it because like minded people are moving in a certain direction and then they're mushing into each other and creating offspring that basically
replicate and form whiteness as we recognize it. But there's also a bunch of you know, if you want to just make this a little more magical, there's a bunch of logic to like somebody telling them to do that and encouraging it. Yeah, which is you know, the part of ya Cube's story that jumps off when he is dead and they've completed after six hundred years, his experiment is, you know, they have this new race people that were white and they went to Mecca. So there's this new
racial people and they went to Mecca. There's a bunch of them but they caused a bunch of trouble when they got there. They was like flipping people's tables over, you know, using using the Brita filter, not filling it back. They're like asking their waitress to split the check even though they oh my god, she's gotta go, like write it down on the back of the receipt. Uh. So the people of Mecca were like, yo, y'all got to go,
and they took them to Europe. They escorted them quietly out of Mecca into Europe, and they guarded them around Europe with swords and they were like, yo, like just chill here for like a couple hundred years and figure out your life. So, you know, these people are now trapped in Europe and they're just figuring it out there like meat and you know, being naked. And uh. Eventually lead Moses are Nyga, Moses, our guy. I love them.
Moses ran into him and he was like, all right, I'm about to teach y'all how to live, you know what I mean? And this lines up with you know, maybe this is the story of Moses leading people out of exodus or whatever. I don't know what he was trying to say here, but Basically, Moses was like, I'm gonna try to teach y'all how to be civilized, how to wear clothes, how to like how to play PS four and like be nice. The fourt goes on the right, Spoon goes on the left. He's teaching them some ship
that they need to know, right uh. And Moses became so upset with them because they wouldn't chill out that he eventually he blew up three hundred of them with dynamite. With dynamite, that's what That's what's in the text, dynamite that he used dynamite, and the six or six years ago he used dynamite to blow up. So this actually gets into another very fascinating element of this is that
number one Dynamite existed. Apparently amazing crossover that's better than like the teenage music and the Turtles with the Power Range episode. How the Moses coming on the story. That's like, Oh, it's like a celebrity shows up on a sitcom and they're like, oh, ship's Tupac on the Living Color, right, Oh, princes are new girls. This is wild. That's how I felt. And well, so even more of a crossover that maybe
you're aware of. But there's arguments that claim that basically Yakub, which is a direct translation to Jacob in Christianity, right, is in fact the Jacob of the Bible, right, and so like they're basically are arguments that say that there's one text in particular that people point to where it references Jacob grafting a sheep, yeah sheep, that he's like basically making a pure sheep by making them, you know,
cross breed and whatever, make doing the thing. So it's again this the fact that this person, who this bigheaded man who otherwise seems like just an alien, that a dude name a lot be honorable, alive, made up is it now feels like, Okay, well maybe he did exist. Maybe he wasn't all y'all said he was, but he
wasn't a completely fictional character. You will, yeah, exactly. So that and that's another interesting part to get into is because a lot of the reason why it would be easy to say, yeah, I could see that is because we all know, you know, with minimal research into the Bible, there's multiple versions of the Bible. There's books of the Bible that have been removed, the Apocrypha or the Dead
Sea scrolls. We know how much just scripture that still exists today has been manipulated to justify uh, slavery or imperialism, or homophobia or number of things. So when you see, like, okay, Jacob was in the Bible, it says he was grafting sheep, but maybe it was just you know, maybe some nigga was going through the Bible like a few hundred years ago. I was like, oh, let me just change that to let me change that part. I'm gonna go cross that outro.
But with sheep. Nobody here, Hey, does anybody care if we uh, if we do some weird ships and some sheep? No, okay, yeah, we're okay, We're gonna go with sheep for eight hundred Alex. So yeah, there's already there's such a distrust in the Bible that yeah, like sorry, like you know, people are gonna be like, yeah, I'll take whatever all time to do to that ship. Yes, And so this really takes me to the ultimate discovery that I felt like I was having in this And I'd love to hear your
thoughts on it is. I do think that a lot of this ship is silly and crazy, and you know, RELI gen is grounded and a lot of funny things like we were saying, but it does ultimately come down to whether or not you agree with white people's science or nation of Islam science. That's it, you know what I mean, Like, that's all this is. It's like who
did you buy into? Most did you buy into, like the white argument that white people existed almost as soon as black people did, Black people just came a little bit before. Or do you argue, you know that maybe this genetic mutation was intentional by a dude named yeah Coop, a big as head. Yeah. And I mean there's listen, the burden of anthropological evidence of the origin of whiteness. It's not on anyone except for white people. Like and I love and I'm talking about like I love history.
I love reading about like everything from the Fertile Crescent un til now, Like I love it. But and everything you read there's still a lot of holes. And you know, the origins of a lot of things, a lot of things where we come from, just as humans. It's still argued about where hominids really came from. Where we Uh, there's aquatic eight theory that says that we were swimming up right there's the theory that we were standing up in these large savannahs and Africa and we had to
stand up to hunt. There's all these different theories, but nobody really knows, and nobody definitely knows where whiteness actually comes from. They could say it's a mutation with vitamin D or all these things, but saying that for such a large region of earth, you know what I mean to be and we and we can't account for every year, right, you can't account for Okay, the general argument the soup
that we crawl out of. We eventually become like these people that stand upright as we crawl further and further from the origin source. Right, that all fine, But you're not telling me every step of that crawl. You're just telling me that a thing crawls and then it eventually stands up, and then it eventually lose some of its hair and it becomes man. But I because you can't account for all of those steps, it's wild for you to be like, Nope, that's the only possibility. There's nothing
else in between. This which is a big problem with anthropology and it has been still it still is a huge problem today that uh, you know, during the nineteen sixties, we were just coming to a point. Uh. There was a big I read about this. Uh it was an anthropology like meet up. I don't know what they do there. If they like trade bones and shil I don't know what need to do an anthropology meet up. You got turtle bones, but okay, I don't know. I don't know
if they're tasting them. I don't know if there's no reason that tasting they want to taste them anthropology. I imagine if I was an anthropologist when I when I dig up some bones or some artifacts, I would dip my pinky in it and taste it and go, oh, yeah, that's that's that good. That's good, that's that good. Is But a person at this anthropology whatever you know, kind of talked about the fertile crescent and basically the misinformation that you know, uh stems from you know, a lot
of different things. But there's this this this narrative were caught up in that human beings were hunter gatherers. We were all just we were all we were all hunter gatherers, and then one day we all got a notification to stop doing that and move on to agriculture and be civilized human beings and make an alphabet and right, you know, and start you know, figuring out how to get the plumber. It's like, but but again, that's such there's so much
space in between this. It's like, Okay, we were hunter gatherers and then suddenly we started beat boxing, and it's like, no, something had to happen in between a little bit of the truth is that there's, yeah, there were multiple massive variation of groups and at some point, you know, different speech seeds of human being from Neanderthal to chro magnan to all these different we all we come from a very wide range of hammed it or bipedal apes. You know,
it wasn't just one bipedal ape. There was a bunch of them running around with different shaped skulls and that sounds really scary. But some of them were hunter gatherers, and some of them did because of the way they had to interact with their environment. They did have to sit down and do agriculture, do different things. But the trick that nobody wants to talk about is that like that there was kind of a need for one group to be dominating over everyone because they need they need
the most space. They need the most territory. They have a dogma attacks, they have a mythology attack, and so that that, ultimately, I think takes me to what I felt like I got out of this is that I understand, I fully recognize the absurdity in all of these arguments, right of like adding this sort of like weird you're you're putting cartoon characters in the middle of science. I
get that. But what's I think undeniable in all of this is that essentially it's white people not inventing themselves physically, but inventing themselves as an identity. It's white people. Basically we are genetically identical, but based on most science, right there is no difference between white and black people, and so it's white people figuring out a way to plant themselves as a more dominant race in the way that
we understand the world. So, no, I don't believe that like some dude crossbred you and created you from me. But I do believe that you all want to be elevated as a a separate being, and therefore the arguments that you are somehow special, it's one a white fabrication. It's absolutely something y'all just made up, right, right, And it's like it would be uh completely irresponsible for anybody to say that domination or or exploitation or extraction or
conquest is a is an exclusively white thing. It's not. It's an exclusively human thing. We all do it from you know, from Genghis Khan to uh, you know our guy Mansa Musa, the one of the richest black people in the world. You had to get that length. You have to conquer, you have somebody has to lay down, somebody has to be exploited. Um, we just had different
ways of going about it. But yeah, I think that that is a very important thing to know, is that like even predating the actual invention of the term white being you know on like stamp like you come into Ellis Island and then stamping white. There was a scientist
I think he was German. He's the guy who basically coined the term of Caucasian because there were people in I forget what what area they were in Europe, but he basically was like, damn, these are like this is top shell, like the Patricia Hilo top selves white woman right, like the way her head is shape. This bitch got something going on. But he saw that and was like, and even he was like, yeah, I think we're all the same, but he still was like they are the best.
This is the peak. And his influence was, you know, able to move into ariean science and stuff like that. But um, and that was the thing that even the people that he first identified as Caucasian, he acknowledged weren't even all white, Like there were a fair amount of darker skinned people in that mix. It just was advantageous to be like, Okay, I can eliminate a bunch of people who don't fall into this category, and then I can hand select the more agreeable or sort of likable
ones all of them. What scarier than you know, the idea of a fantasy story like yeah, cube or or anything or aliens. What's actually scarier and more intimidating and harder to fix is where that idea of of white jeans being you know, the top, like you know what I mean, Like that idea going so far back into history. Is that's the thing that we have to sit down and then die and and question and completely like, yeah,
well that's that's the greatest roster of all time. The dude was like, y'all, niggas are ugly and you're broke and yeah, and you ain't ship, and everybody was like, damn, that's motherfucker's funny. I don't know how you got us, but I'm gonna spread this like wildfire for centuries. Generations will believe exactly how funny this dude is. Right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's wilder than than y'allkop is that like some like just one dude was just like yeah, this one,
I like this one. This is the best. And everybody was like, okay, cool, all right, yeah, well he's right, all right, we're gonna take We're gonna take one more break and we'll be back with more Zach Fox and more, my mama told me, And we are that anyway. We're back here with more Zach Fox more. My mama told me. We're still talking about y'all Kobe and his tricknology and how trick Daddy really should be ashamed of himself treating
with knowledge changing biology. I got right about anything you should. I mean, you're right, you got the skills for this changing biology. Take the white gane. I'm gonna put it inside of me. If my baby come out black, I'm gonna kill it. He gives up on the rap. He just start saying evil ship. That doesn't rhyme, Shut the funk up, Shut the funk up, that science motherfucker's knowledge. All right, I want to play a game. We're gonna play a game. And uh, this game I've titled Facebook
You Acting Up? This is what Facebook Live is for. Shut the funk up? Yeah, Facebook you acting up. I'm gonna read you some quotes that were posted recently on my Facebook feed, and I just want us to unpack them together. These are are supposed conspiracy theories, arguments that people are making about the potentials dangers that are happening
in the world. So the first one, it goes like this, The vagina produces a coming in hot vagina produces a chemical fluid known as copulen that has actual mind control effects on a male's brain. If a man is exposed to a woman's copulence over time, she will be able to change, remove or insert memories. Tell the mail what he sees, hears, feels, smells, taste, Insert subconscious thoughts that
will surface as his own ideas or behaviors later. Plant trigger words or actions that can cause thoughts, actions, or sensations in the mild mail. At later dates, the melanated woman copulence have multi functions and are capable of doing other things. That's where it ends. As they do other things. It's like a cliffhanger, which I'm trying to figure out
which part of that is a conspiracy. Brother, All I'm here in is facta Listen, how spill that c O p U l I c op u l I N Let me write now, I'm sure I'm not pronouncing it correctly. I did look it up. I looked up copulence, and apparently they are a real thing. It's basically like a word referring to fair moment. But there's not a lot of information about them inserting memories into your mind that
didn't exist before. I buy it. Buy it. Well, there's a spiritual like theory that the male, like male sperm can also do that to women. Uh that like you know, that nut has like a bunch of stuff encoded into it, like you know, uh, matrix nuts, that nut with all them ones and yeah, I feel like we're all a bunch of ones and zeros. And I'm like, yeah, I buy it that copulen could probably make you do some weird some weird of things. There's crazy stuff like that.
And you know, I'm gonna say this like it's fat, but it might not be. But hold on, wait a minute. This is exciting, you know, saying like it's like it's fat cats. Okay, there is a parasite that lives in cat poop that uh, it's also airborne. It's a parasite and if it gets inside of you, it can actually influence you to want to get more cats. Whoa, So it's like cat copulent. It's cat copy cats that they're creating this parasite so that more cats come into your home,
which explains cat ladies. Yeah, ship, oh ship, Yeah. Hold on, wait a minute, motherfucking books complete. God damn, that's that blows my mind, the possibility because my okay, listen, this gets into an in got copulent, and women definitely have copulent, they definitely. So Yeah, when I was a kid, my mom had nine cats, and I always thought it was because our main cat, Jordan's, just was a busy body, you know what I mean, she was out in the streets.
But now I'm starting to think that maybe Jordan was intentionally planting copulent in her ship to make it so that these other cats eventually showed up looking up looking at up cat cat looking at up cat poop parasite. It is that cat copulent. I love this. Okay, I'm gonna read you one more of Facebook you acting up examples. This one comes from a dear friend, Tehran. Do you
know tey Ran? Yeah, yeah, he's hilarious comedian, wears a robe everywhere, and that's a conspiracy theory in and of itself. But recently he posted I'm not a fan of conspiracy theory, but I must say the fact that rich ass neighborhoods always have the worst cell phone reception while the hood always has the greatest service gives some treadens to cell
towers and five G causing cancer and death. The Hills no service, bel air ship service, Malibu forget about it, nine O two one oh hell no versus Compton perfect service. This this fits perfectly into my horror movie that I'm right in the Hills have wife siyes. It's just a bunch of people with radiated faces, but dope ask cell phones.
I love that. Uh Okay, So he's saying, okay, okay, five G five G might be real because the hood has very good cell phone service, And why would they give the hood amazing cellphone service unless there was a catch, unless they're trying to murder black and brown people by giving them like radiation directly to the head, right right, right, which, which okay, crazy, let's follow this train for a second.
I think there is legitimacy to cell phones being bad for us, right, that's not a new theory that's been proven that there there is radiation and cell phones they're not good for you. You probably shouldn't just be slamming them next to your face as often as we did at certainly, Yeah, I I've been meaning to talk to you about that. Please stop doing that. But I don't know that there's enough evidence to support the idea that Englewood is just getting that much more cell reception than
bell Air, you know what I mean? Yeah? Like, is it that much better? Like I wanna send a text from both places and see like or just like I don't know, like is it I don't know? Do all hoods have really good cell phone service like that? Yeah?
I don't know. That's a pretty sweeping statement. If I go to the West Side of Chicago, am I truly about to get better self service than I do, and fucking Bucktown or downtown, Like, what do you how do you prove that the cell service is not comparable in all these places rather than just being a man with
opinions in a rope? Right, well, yeah, you can't say anything to a man with the rope because he's just gonna say you bought the white man slide, you drank the kool aid, and that's why you're gonna get your face melted off. Right, yeah, look at you, you sell out, you over your believing the white man's words, the white man's WiFi. You an you can't even get on the black Internet because you over here bought in on the white man's WiFi. Like all right, well, I guess, I
guess I'm wrong. I don't know. I'm I'm excited to see how the five G thing plays out. Like I don't know any talk about like humans becoming mutants or you know, getting any kind of like special ability or anything there. I don't care about the lost or comfortability. Uh. I just want to see somebody with a big I'm trying to trying to see these mutants maybe, right, I love that a mutant anything just Newton fill in the blank, it's gonna be fun mutant like any Newton strip club. Cool,
I'm there. Okay, right, this is Diamond and she got five asses with the five asses, and guess what, all those asses don't do the same thing. Some of them got some different powers you ain't never even heard of, Like, Okay, I got diamond, Yeah exactly, let me look at that diamond. Well, I think we did it. I think we nailed this episode what we did, but I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't suggest that you change your address, and uh, we gotta We're gonna have to rethink some of our choices.
But this was an exciting time. Can you tell all the people zac where they can find you and what to look out for? And yeah, I'm on Twitter at Zack Fox for now. I'm on Instagram at Zack Fox for now. Be on the lookout for some projects that I can't talk about until they are ready to be spoken about. But be on Twitch sometimes too, And I got music coming out that's dope and one of my absolute favorite people to follow, so funny and everything he does.
One more time, ladies and gentlemen, for Zack Fox. And this has been my mama told me you can follow me at Linkston Kerman on all of them platforms. I ain't going nowhere, I ain't got nothing better to do. And uh but I will be getting a tattoo. I want the one that you had with the full body profile. I want the whole one that looks like a diagram. Yeah uh where it's like that that Da Vinci diagram of yakoo. But yeah, they're gonna be like, Zack, what's
your tramp stamp. I'll be like, hold on, let me tell you about it down. I got to explain some stuff, all right. This has been another episode of my Mama told me bye by y'alls in your racists money stuff. You can't tell me