Like a Hurricane (with Clayton English)

Nobody wants to be here. He's like, no, show me the fucking back. That's why racist money in terms of stuff can't tell me. Yep, there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we proved that Lizzo's DNA tests was only ninete percent that bitch and three percent Guatemalan. She's lying to you people. She ain't all that bitch. She's a little bit watermalin and she

needs to be honest about it. I am your host, likes to Kerman as always, I'm excited to be here. My guest today is a phenomenal comedian, hilarious person, a dear friend, a person who I think we started sort of our formative years in Hollywood together. We did New Faces together, we'd we sort of bonded as young pupils in the world of comedy. And he SIPs going on to do amazing ship. He was on last Comedy Scanning,

He's been on Comedy Central eighty bio. You know, I'm from the Sound show one of the funniest goddamn podcasts there is. You know him, you love him? Give it up for my friend Mr Clayton Elend. Yeah, man, what's up? Man? You got some bars and the theme? So, man, you got some bars? Yeah, it's you know I. Nick Chambers, who's a very hilarious comedian out in New York, helped me put that bad Boy together. We wrote some lyrics together. He did all the music because I suck at it.

But yeah, it's it's I came together nice. Yeah, that's a little bout man. Go here and put that on Spotify. Man, we gotta get that on the Spotify. Players of one song, just that, Where are you right now? Where are you. I'm in l A. Yeah, I know we have similar backgrounds where it looks like we are being held hostage, but yeah, I'm in l A. I swear I can see a palm. Try, I swear, just in a blank room with nothing in it. Yeah. The thing is my wife. Uh, We're in a new house and I'm in the closet

literally speaking, not metaphorically. I'm in the closet, and she got a room to herself to do her work. So this is my deal. I'm in a closet with a bunch of pillows and ship and that's marriage. You get a house, you get a closet. Absolutely, it's the compromise that she made, and I guess I agreed to it. I don't know. Anyway, this is exciting. I'm happy you're here because you came to me with maybe this. It's

interesting because I mentioned it to you before. It's a conspiracy that I personally had not heard a lot of. But a fan of the show d m and basically said, you got to talk about this, And I was so excited that this was one of the options you sent me. But you said, my mama told me hurricanes are the souls of slaves lost in the Middle passage. Yeah, that's what whips up hurricanes because it's the route they took, right,

you know what I'm saying. So they started Africa and then they always sunk up the South like yes, so yeah, I think it's like black slaves, so freak nick and it's just kind of a caravan and they just culminate and you know, it's just slaves torking their way all the way to Atlanta to just funk up some ship.

They never can quite make it to Atlanta, so it's always somewhere in the Gulf it gets hit you know, Florida, Alabama, you know what I'm saying, the gold like where in Texas they're dreaming for they're dreaming for the opportunities to get to Atlanta to make their mark in the world of Tyler Perry's studios. But unfortunately they don't make it that far, and it's that they get stuck and goddamn Mississippi or wherever end up blowing away for the trailer parks. Okay,

this is it. I feel like maybe one of the the more like at least on paper, insane conspiracy theories that a person could present that these souls have transformed into hurricanes and are attacking the states and other places. Talk to me about where you first heard this, Where does this first come into your your life. So my family is from Pensacola, Florida, So hurricane just away of life down there. And for so long Pensacola would always

get missed, it always get missed. When they finally got hit, it actually just got hit. My granddad's house got sucked up with the last hurricane that just happened. Now, So yeah,

he's good. Everybody good. Yeah. Yeah. So around that you start hearing the hurricane story and it's so many like hurricane conspiracy theories I pay attention to maybe too much, like like like I funk with weather control, I funk with whatever kode that black say on that s song with like like win ain't got no one, ain't where you think Hurricane hard it from. I just I was like, Oh, oh this the wind don't have a name. This alleged rapeissess talking that talk. I like what he's saying, Florida

is a duality. Motherfucker's is gonna be the most fucked

up individual you could be. And then say some ship that damn near makes motherfucking perfect Florida gives you that perfect storm, if you will, just insanity and like, you know a lot, You've seen a lot because that's why you're like, oh, you're like because it's like it's clicks some like, yeah, a lot of And if you you can't watch people wrestle alligators and fucking do wild Florida ship and then expect them to just come with reason logic,

They're coming with Florida logic. And that doesn't make it wrong, that just makes it specific to the experience they have right right there, you go, yeah, hell yeah. So you're growing up, you're around hurricanes enough or at least like hearing about hurricanes enough that this comes up. And what is your first thought? Are you bought in? Are you like, hell yeah, I believe you. Yes, I want to believe it, but I don't actually like on a karmic level. Yeah, yeah,

that ship is dope. And then I went to school in Tallahassee, I went to Florida and m so then you started getting around motherfucker's that have behold the Pale Horse. And you know what I'm saying, Like everything I still think hurricanes is the spirits of the motherfucker's that didn't make it? Like that ship just sounds like a good fuck it. It's a good fucking movie. If we put on the ship and it was a hurricane and niggas are found them mad about slavery, that would be horrifying

for the white viewer. Yeah, it's I will say, it's a goddamn great ghost story. And like you're saying, it's a fantastic movie. And I don't know if it's rooted in any truth, but damn does this feel like a thing that would be exciting to watch in a sweet justice to serve out to the So I always like believed it just for the hope of it because it sounds good. Ship, just sound good man. Like, sure, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna die about this, you know

what I'm saying. I'm not gonna you know, it's rapper ship. It's a it's a little bit of a flex you flex. Yeah, but I believe it, Like it's just the path, just the path alone is what really sells it. Like, right, you can't argue with where hurricanes originating where they wind up, right, So for our listeners at home, what Clayton is referring to. And this is something that I unpacked in the research,

is that hurricanes generally generate from West Africa. That like literally they follow the Atlantic slave trade route, starting in West Africa and then moving towards the Caribbean and then South America and North America and sort of like the spitting formation towards like these other continents and spaces formation. Come on, you believe it, you believe Listen. When I first heard, I was like, this is silly. This will be a fun thing to talk about, but I don't

know what I believe. And then I started looking at some of those maps. I'm like, God, damn, this Look how it's spreading out. Look how it's like attacking these specific places, Like there's vengeance to be served. This feels vengeful in a way that I didn't anticipate that it was spinning like it's you know what I mean when he was mad at the camera, like spitting right, suck y'all. Okay, So you wanted to believe it? At any point did

you jump off of the train of belief? Was there anything that sort of like made you go, I fun, this is where I have trouble with it. Yeah, when when black people kept getting sucked up by the hurricane. That's you know what I'm saying that right, it's hard to say that this is like serving up justice when the only people who really suffered in Katrina were just black people trapped on roofs, you know what I mean. But then you know, that's a whole another conspiracy, you know,

with the levies and everything. Okay, wait, talk to me on that. Wait, talk to me a little bit about the conspiracy behind the levees. I don't know, oh man, Okay, So when Katrina happened in order to save the money making part of New Orleans, it's people that claim that they heard explosions that lived near the levees, and the levees broke supposedly flooded a lot of the black areas that was you know, it's like they decided what was worth you know what I'm saying, how can we alleviate

this pressure? And all right? Send it there? You know what I'm saying, It's a instead of the levies breaking randomly, which could have affected everyone, the levies were destroyed, like blown up in a specific area that made sure that this specific group were the only people who suffered from it, right. Yeah. Wow, I had never heard that before, but ship, yeah, it's in um you know, Spike Lee got long documentary about it.

It was like stuff that was known. I remember, like I was in Atlanta at the time, and I just was seeing people from New Orleans like flood Atlanta, and you hear their stories and stuff, and it was like, damn it, man, it has at least an air of a possibility behind it because of how cities are often set up. Right and you sort of were talking about it a second ago, but so many hurricanes leave black brown and pour people in their wake, like they are

the ones who suffer the most that they hurricanes. And that's not because like we're goofy and just don't know where to be. It's because fucking cities are structured in a way that ensure that black people are the first in line when some bullshit happens, right, Yeah, we usually pushed to the edge. Hm, Like you know what I'm saying.

We pushed to the edge, and do they want to come to the edge, and then when they want to come back, like it's just like a motherfucking constant ripple of gentrification And all right, y'all, Nis can come back, get back out there, come back there like stupid man. Right. You know, you hear about all the Caribbean I ends where like they get fucking terrible damage from hurricanes and all the things that happened, but it never happens on

any of those resorts. The resorts are always fine because they have a clear strategy of like, oh, we know where the hurricanes always hit, and even if we suffer a little bit, this isn't gonna take our entire property, whereas like the people that live on this island, we're gonna put y'all right in the fucking way and you're gonna take the brunt of everything that's happening. Yeah. I didn't even think about that, but yeah, that's true. And I just thought, you know, I mean, what poor people

gonna lose more because they got less, right. Yeah. Fuck, it doesn't feel good to hear it out loud, but that's very correct, no matter, but yeah, it all. It actually only took a little bit of rain to take everything because we don't have ship, but we didn't lose everything in the process. Oh man. Okay, So when you start to balance the fact that is mostly black people, brown people, poor people, suffering at the hands of these hurricanes.

What do you think or do you think there's any connection in like what that could mean for the slave trader? Is that just the failure of that premise? No, I just think it. Uh it don't care. You know what I'm saying, Like this ship happened. Man, whatever the fuck is up there is gonna get it. Like, yeah, sorry, y'all, Like like we just don't spray the block, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, we're sorry. Who got hit got hit, but we're spraying. You said it, you

said spitting, You said right, So right, niggas shooting. They ain't shooting for the kids. But if a right, that was part of that. Man, I'm sorry, but they this beef has ever lasted, right. You see what this motherfucker did to me, did to my family. Fuck y'all, I don't give it ship. If you gotta an El Dorado parked in your yard, I got shipped to do. I

got justice to serve. Okay. So, in sub ways, it sounds like the people that are living in these spaces are for the souls of these slaves, a necessary sacrifice or a potential sacrifice that they're willing to make for their grander justice. Oh, I ain't think about it like a sacrifice. I just thought about it like on I don't know, I didn't think about it that far. You gotta be thinking about it more and more now. But yeah, like I said it, I can't really call that. I

just got back from can Koon. Right. We went down to Mexico and my wife and I like literally dodged a hurricane as we were leaving, Like, the hotel called up yesterday morning. They were like, hey, we're sending people to a shelter. I know y'all are leaving soon, but y'all trying to go to that shelter too or what was happening? And we were like, no, no, no, we're

gonna leave immediately when trying to stick this out. And I think even that, right, like that idea of being able to move a bunch of people, you know, that are on some resort they didn't tell, to a shelter is an option that most poor people don't have, right, It's that's a luxury, that's a resource, even though the shelter probably was gonna be bunk beds and like bologney sandwiches, right, Yeah, No,

it was gonna be some bulletshit. Definitely. It was like, you think you're moving a resort adjacent, Now, buddy, you're gonna drop all the way off. But yeah, I mean, I guess when they know they're coming and it's super big, they do try to evacuate. So I mean, but you know, people stay if they want to stay. I think that goes to the grander issue, right, is that like when you know it's big, when you have the resources to be able to check these things and plan and have

somewhere to go. Fuck, yeah, now, okay, cool, I'll leave. But if I'm somebody who in no way has any other resources, has nowhere else to go, couldn't tell you how to leave in the first place, I'm fucking stuck and I'm trapping the thing. And that isn't I think the result of these souls or these slaves. That's just

the result of the slave owners continuing to pull their bullshit. Right, So, these could be the souls of these slaves trying to do the justice that they want to do, But unfortunately slave owners have maintained a type of control the souls from protecting themselves or doing the right thing, rather right right right, people in the way. They shouldn't be in the way right like they saw it. They saw it a long time ago, Like or does he keep happening?

They were throwing people off the boats and like, Oh, he's gonna come back. That motherfucker's gonna be mad at me. I gotta do. I gotta start playing chess because if he come back, I'm gonna get sucked up. Okay, we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna come back with more Clayton English and more, my mama told me. And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more

Clayton English, more. And my mama told me. We're still talking about the souls of the slaves loss in the Middle Passage and the possibility that they might be hurricanes out here, Batman in the ship, out of the people that hurt them and the ancestors of the people that hurt them. Wait, you were telling me, and this is exciting. You were telling me about some of the weather control stuff that you've been looking up. Oh yeah, yeah, the

hard thing. But Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and then the governor, dude, he had a conspiracy theory show and he would go around to these places and it was basically a wrestler harassing people about ship that nobody's supposed to be talking about. Right, wait, so what was this? What was it on? Was it like public Access ship? No, it was it was on a real channel. I think he maybe had one season. It was like, um, it was on one of the channels.

That's something else. Now. It was like True TV before they started doing comedy, probably when it was like they was judge shows and then they didn't know what they wanted to do. It was true I got the True brother. He was the thing that pushed them into comedy. They were like, hey, we can't keep doing this man, Jesse don't know how to act. We got to get practical jokers, and we got to get somebody in here. This is

going too far. I like Jesse Vntour because I feel like in the videos that I've watched of his work, it's like every I would say, fifth thing that he says is like hell yeah, dog, you're fucking killing it, and then everything else just sounds like a promo video for raw you know what I mean. It's just a dude talking crazy crazy Yeah. But he would have the information. They'd be like Okay, heart runs off the same frequency that your brain way operate off of. Originally started as

a cloud seating program. You know what I'm saying. It can shoot it into the eye on the sphere. But like a reverse reaction, like if you do some ship up this way, some ship's gonna happen on the other side of the earth. That like some crazy ship like supposedly Tesla technology or whatever. But yeah, that's where I first heard about the hardship and I got you. Yeah, that's about the end of my research for it too.

I looked it up a little bit. But then I also didn't want like Jesse Venture come and asking me about it, or like I wasn't even really worried about the authorities, Like if the authorities came, I gonna be like I was hot. I was looking around. Come on, I love drugs. What are you talking? We can't geat no more. Oh you're saying smoking is illegal in most states? All right, you tubing man, cool co. All right, here's

what I want to do. I want to get into some of this research because I found, and this surprised me, that there is a fair amount of not crazy things sort of cooked into what it seems like an otherwise just spiritual, emotionally driven conspiracy theory. Let's start with some

of the actual crazy things that I read. One of the things that I read said that some people claim that specifically the souls of black women are the ones that are these hurricanes, which is why they're called her It can't that is just the women who were I guess of childbearing age, and that's why we call them hurricanes. But it's specifically black women who are attacking the US and the Caribbean with their souls, if you will any

thoughts on that that move you in any way? Yeah, it makes sense the manner in which the hurricane moves, you know what I'm saying, Like it's a necro of a storm, you know what I mean, Like it attacks hard, then it takes a break, and then you see it coming ain't ship you can do about it, And then you look it in his eyes and you try to calm it down. But no, does she taking a break. She just resting up in a good way. Though. Yeah, I don't want the women at home to think that

we're saying horrible things to generalize them. We're merely making fun of you, ladies, because we're afraid of you, and you hold a powerful way and certainly my heart, and I think Clayton's as well. Here's another one that I thought was fun. Some people claim that the path of the hurricane, that like the trail that you talked about a bit, moving from West Africa to the Caribbean to North America to South America, looks suspiciously like the path

of the Firefox logo. That like it's somehow and and ide nickel movement of the firefox shifting downward and then over like that around the world. And I don't know what that's supposed to mean, like maybe you know they knew the whole time, or that we are black people are the fox on fire. I'm not sure the implications, but that's the theory that's popping up a lot. It

looks like the Firefox logo, so that means Firefox logo people. Yeah, I had to know what the hurricane path look like, Okay, because it's so many ways to make a fox, and that fox is not a really cousin fox. You could have made a cute, cuddling fox or something fox that people like seeing. You don't really like seeing that fox. He don't know that's a demon fox, and they knew what they were doing when they made it. That's a goddamn demon fox. That's a nerd to fox if I've

ever seen one, and it's bessuming the earth. Come on, man, a fox that can fly around the globe. No, that's not the fox. See, they knew they they were up to something. I don't know what they were up to, but they were up to something. Here's another one that

doesn't make a lot of sense. But when I typed in our hurricanes the souls of one of the things that auto feels automatically on Google's people saying our hurricanes, the souls of the people lost on nine eleven, that like the people in the Twin Towers for some reason, who were because it happens in September. I yes, I don't whose were they're born? When were they hurricanes just started.

It's weird to me because it's like, why would the people, the souls of the people lost in nine eleven be like, you know what, I'm about to funk up New Orleans. I'm about to go beat the ship out of out of Haiti. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go tear Florida Park because of what happened to me in a plane crash, unrelated to any of these places. Let me go, I gover to these decories. Yeah, what is that listening to

Jimmy Buffett. I'm about to get that, bitch. I love that. Okay, let's dig into some of the more legitimate science or reasoning behind some of these things. So you mentioned it before that the hurricane travels the path of the Atlantic slave trade. Eighty five. Apparently of hurricanes, certainly the ones that hit the US form off the coast of West Africa. So eight. This isn't just like you know, us being

dramatic about the number. This is legit that like almost every hurricane that comes to the US was formed off the coast of West Africa. That's crazy. So like if you think about that, and like let's say basketball term, if a motherfucker's shooting for three mm hmm, we yeah, killing, it's over like like out on your a, Like dep don't even do that, Like your shots are on target? Yea, where the other ones originate from? Did this say that? I probably did. I didn't. Here's how I do my research.

Like a nigga who didn't go to school for journalism. You know what I mean, I just read the part that interests me and then I move on as to not add any kerfuffle in my brain, noting that makes sense. I'm just wondering where else There was probably somewhere else they sucked over too, you know what I'm saying, right, Like it might even be a little white country. It's

probably Ireland or some ship. Right. I love that. I love that there's the only other hurricanes just are the souls of like these irritated Irish people who were being treated as indentured servants when they came to America, and they want their justice too, but nobody gives a fuck. That's great, Okay, So this is where I started to become a little bit conspiratorial myself in all of this.

Hurricanes are formed through low pressure air below basically being surrounded by high pressure air that moves in over the low pressure air, and then it starts to warm and rise, and then the rising air cools and condenses and they

form like these spinning cloud cycles. Right, And so when I start to think about the low pressure and the high pressure, my metaphorical brain kicks in and I'm like, who had low pressure in these situations, slave owners who had the high pressure, the people being stolen and beaten and in these situations, so maybe that high pressure is the slave spirits moving in over these low pressure zones, creating the hurricanes and then moving westward to funk up

some ship. That's crazy, that's there. So high pressure it means low pressure, and the storms just start whipping up exactly. So it's probably like a bunch of little fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense in the whole goddamn all out brawl. Yes, And part of it is that. And this is where

it gets even sort of more clearly. The brawl that you're talking about is that high pressure area or that high pressure is coming off of the Sahara, off this dry sort of like land where it's like desert e and then moving into this moist sort of low pressure southern Atlantic water, and then that's when the mixture happens,

and that's when everything is happening. So it's literally coming from the body of the land in the desert where the people were from, and then moving over the body of where the oppressors, these colonizers were coming from, creating the hurricanes that then transferred to America. Man, that's dope. I'm glad you did this research because I didn't look up ship Listen, that's not your responsibility. You just gotta

be funny, and you're killing it. Man, that's crazy. So it comes from the land and then goes over to where the people was coming from. That was taking to people from where they were from, over the water all the way to go out and meet the low pressure

situation exactly. So here's the other thing that I think was fascinating when I pulled from all of the like the facts about the slave trade is that the journey to the quote unquote New World that they were basically calling the Middle Passage lasted anywhere from six to twelve weeks, assuming that there were no other disruptions, which included things

like pirates, rivals, slave ships, or even hurricanes themselves. Right that like, assuming you were able to make the trip without any disruptions, it still took you damn near what three months to get from the coast of Africa too, wherever you were going be at the core South America whatever that is. In that time, only of the people that they're capturing are making it all the way through this journey, So lots and lots of people are dying

in this process only making it, I believe. So I could have misread that and it could have been that thirteen percent or dying, but I'm pretty sure that it's saying yeah, either way, a ship ton of people, a big portion of the people that are making this trip are dying in the process, which leads further to your suggestion that there's a lot of souls seeking vengeance for

what happened. Yeah, yeah, is that it's like that old Paul Mooney Joe talking about sharks, like we eight niggas and years remember when they used to come that dark meat so good, you know, Like, and that's the thing it's like we're talking about. I think, at least for me, everything that we hear about the slave trade, right is the people who make it to America or make it

to like wherever they become slaves. But what this is saying is massive, massive amounts of people did not even make it to land, that they died in this process because they were either beaten to death, starved to death, kidnapped off the boat, thrown off the boat, killed in weather, whatever the funk it is, which means that more than we can account for are pretty pissed about what happened

to them. Yeah, I'm all the way believing it now now that you just went on with the research, like I'm so like, like, I fight the motherfuck about this ship now. So one of the counters that we started talked about previously that I think is worth us talking about again because it comes up a lot in some of the things that I'm reading is basically black people who are writing articles about this basically being like, hey, look,

I get it. It's a nice feeling to believe it, but it also is a very fucked up thing to suggest that these souls are never going to find peace, that they're just constantly seeking vengeance forever and always for what happened to them and never going to you know, heaven or whatever you believe in for like their souls to be at rest. Yeah. Man, I don't know how

goals work, but I mean I don't know that. I don't know, Like like like you, they just gonna say that ship and then not have a suggestion for what to do about it, go out and let him know, like yo, we good? Were good? Are you saying that when you're on a carnival cruise ship. Are you talking to spear? Are you sitting there drinking my ties and slide down and goddamn slide Talk to the spirits, be like I made it, bitch, I gotta fall one came like,

talk to him. Play Obama's speech here. You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, don't just throw out what you think it shouldn't be. Give a fucking answer to what it is, because the reality is these ghosts might be upset and they might need your comfort. They might need you to step in and be like, hey, relax, we'll figure it out from here. I don't know how ghost

work all the way, None of them know what I mean. Yeah, So if they're like, oh, that's that's messed up to think that they'll never get No, No, it's messed up to think how they got there. You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, the whole situation messed up. Like what do you like you can't tell a ghost like, I'm sorry, you can't

make it right. This is where I start to get even more conspiratorial, right because I think that one of the things that I read it sort of comes from what we're talking about right now, is a bunch of people being like, I don't like the idea of the slaves having to spend their life vengeful and sad forever and always, and then other people being like, yeah, and it's pretty fucked up to think that these slaves are attacking their own people. I don't want to believe in this.

But what I started to think, what I started, and I'm gonna whisper at you for a second, I'm gonna get real quiet. What I started to think was maybe these slaves are not in fact attacking people at all, but they're attacking the system that put them in servitude in shackles in the first place. So these slaves are

not attacking any individual, but instead attacking capitalism. Right, every time that a hurricane hits the US or hits one of these places, the economy gets fucked things in that city, tourism, money, it's getting ruined by these category four, category five storms, right, And so at the end of the day, capitalisms would put me in these shackles. Capitalism is what I'm angry at. I don't give a fuck who's on the other side of that, black, brown, white otherwise. Yeah, yeah, it's the system.

So it means that until you give us like some type of reparations. You gotta tag of the money if you want these souls to rest. Yeah, you would like these souls to rest. My brother, your great money. Give me your great money for one year, one year, and I will rests. I will put sixteen souls to rest. Give me your great money. I do. I think at the root of this, we are talking about the potential

of like how money controls everything. Right, money was the ultimate cause of why these souls were taken in the first place, and so there's a very logical possibility that money is the thing, or this type of money is the thing that these souls are angry at that. Yeah, ye that believe. I'm with it. Capitalism yep, y'all. They give us no money, yep, y'all. Still killing black folks, yep, they're still doing it. They look over before they come, They look over to see if it's right before they come.

They still on that ship. Come on there. Oh wait a minute, Jeff Bezos, guy, how much? Yeah, we're gonna have to fuck some ship up. We gotta ron y'all, let's go. Okay, this is the last thing that I'll throw out to you as even more support for your conspiracy theory. I think it's more support. But one of the things that kept coming up was the idea that

hurricanes every year become more and more extreme. Right that, like, we're not talking about the same even quality and quantity of hurricanes as we were talking about back when the slave trade was originally happening, which does in fact suggest the possibility that these slaves are these souls are uniting to seek vengeance. Now, you could argue that that's all the result of global warming and you know the damage that we're doing to the earth, or you could argue, now,

these slaves just get matter and matter every year. I mean, however, you want to look at it. Either way work because if it's getting hotter than that, they're getting more powerful. That's your faults too, your fault. It's all your phone, you mean global warming is oh yeah, well, well then they're gonna get stronger. This is something you did, because

they died because it's something you did. So that's how it would work if it was an anime or something ship right, Like, I like that because I think that that actually connects us right back to where we were with the economy. Right, is that ultimately you are continuing to create the negative results of what you built from this slave trade. You're growing all this negativity which leads us, which takes us even further into the possibility that these

souls are seeking vengeance. Yeah. Hell yet. All right, we're gonna take one more break and then we'll be back with more Clayton English and more. My mama told me, And we are back. You could do so you you you could. Yeah, we're back. We're playing English more. My mama told me. We're spitting We're spitting off the coach. Yes, yes, I want to play a game. We're gonna play a quick game. And this game is called Okay Homemade Hotep.

It's a very simple game where I am going to introduce to you a pretty standard fact out in the world, and then what I would like for you to do is hotep the ship out of it, add all the flavoring and a nuance that you need to add to it to make it as conspiratorial as possible. Do whatever

you want to add some flare to this bad boy. Right, So we're talking about natural disasters, and what I started to think was, Okay, if hurricanes are in fact the souls of something, what else could be the souls of something. And so what I would like for you to do is dig into earthquakes. Three sixteen thousand people died from earthquakes in three sixteen thousand people internationally died from earthquakes.

What I would love for you to do is talk to me about what you think those earthquakes are seeking vengeance for. Is for fucking up the mountains and other ship, Like anytime you funk with rock YEP. They don't like that. Every time you crack the foundation on one side of the earth the other side, they don't like that. They don't like that. They want to be how they want to be shaped and formed how they want to form. You know what I'm saying. They want to be shaped

by weather and water. They don't want you coming in with jack hammers and big as motherfucker drills. And so every crack eventually is gonna keep goddamn quaking because y'all keep cracking ship, and you keep on cracking ship, and you don't stop cracking ship until you stop cracking. Even cracking is cracking a lot of people don't know that cracking is cracking. Cracking is cracking. I like that and talk to me a little bit about the who the

day is? Who is the day in this? Anybody who building some ship that's too big, that don't need no problem. But you're trying to build a motherfucker guitar shaped hotel that earthquake, baby, that's gonna sunk up somebody's home on the other side of the earth. You arrogant bitch. Why do you need a hotel shaped like a guitar? Come on, what is that for? Who? Who is that? Who does that benefit? Who sees that TACKI ship? And it's like, I've got to stay there. I want to stay right

in the neck of that giant, shitty guitar. No, that is something that needs to come down. And you're saying that the souls of the earth, really the Earth is responding it and fighting back against that bullshit. Right, Yeah, I love it. I think we did it. Clayton English, what a great episode. Could you tell the people where they could find you? Where you going on? Yeah, it's Clayton English on everything social media, all the Instagram is just Clayton English. One word YouTube. I got the thing

called Dope Movies. Check that out. Keep supporting everything. We'll be doing eighty five sous a bunch of stuff coming. So hey, come on, let's go Yeah, go funk with Clayton, Go listen to this ship, go watch you got an album to Clayton the same, listen to rock with him. And as always, you can follow me at Lenks and Kerman on all this stuff. Oh and if you have drops, or if you have theories, or if you have stuff you want to send me, send it to my mama

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