"I am AIDS" with Sydnee Washington

lead to a potential deadly disease. Also, he's mixing that with muscle milk. He's telling people to eat cockroaches and then drink it down with muscle milk. That's gonna create something weird. Crock chips in your masqual mass are racist? Posting money's term of stuff. I can't tell me. Oh, oh,

there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another spectacular, devastating, oh stunning episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that that little boy from Blackish is in fact one of omar Rosa's horcrux's. Yes, he absolutely is a part of her soul. Don't you dare try to be fooled by all that dancing and that charming little smile.

That bastard is part of omar Rosa's spirit that she cut off, and it's using to indoctrinate the black community. I believe it, and I'll fight every day to prove it. I'm your host, Langston Kerman is always I'm coming in hot today, baby, not only because it's a good day, but hardly because I met my friend's house. I can't record in my own home because I just found out that, uh coax cables don't just come standard in homes. You know, the cable that you plug your motem into. I don't

just show up everywhere. You gotta kind of earn that. I guess you gotta get somebody to come in and fix it for you. So I'm struggling. I'm using a different man's WiFi, which that doesn't make you feel powerful as a person. But here we are, and I'm enjoying it. I'm excited because today we have a spectacular guest. I bet she has three or four coax cables in her house. She has that kind of power, that kind of resources, that kind of sway in the industry. Her home is

filled with coax cables. She's amazing, She's hilarious. She maybe is one of my biggest bullies on the internet. Uh. You know her from her wonderful podcast called Unofficial Expert. You know her from Comedy Central. You know her from just being hilarious around town and on the internet. Oh and Sid can Cook. Do not get about Sid can cook every Sunday. You know her from all the things. Give it up from my guest, Miss Sydney Washington. Hey, are you know I'm just I'm so proud of you.

You got a podcast. This is great. I don't like you call me a bully. All I do is uplift you. I don't know that that's true at all. I think I think you've been very unkind to me in a multitude of space. All I say it's great. Thank I'm so proud of you. I'm so bad. We're friends. Uh. And if you ever if you ever need to borrow some WiFi from me, let me know. Man. Okay, if I ever need to borrow some WiFi. I just I'll let you, and you'll you'll take care of that, take

care of me. I'll put it on my tap. Okay. And if I'm understanding you correctly, you're not even on your own WiFi right now? Am I understanding that correctly, you're on someone else's WiFi since the WiFi, Yes, I'm visiting, I'm I'm in l A. I'm usually in New York, but I am in l A right now. And uh, but I feel like this person's WiFi is also my WiFi. Sure, this is an extended family of wife exactly, and naturally you have no problem extending that family even further to me.

Should I be in absolutely family's family. It's a beautiful proverb. And uh, it's one I like to go back to every evening. And I'm glad that you're extending it to me. I think you're ready for a commercial, right that was like, that's like right on the nose with like a T and T. Hey if one of those horrible companies and they're attached to the prison labor want to call me and asked me to say some nice things about their WiFi, I'll happily do it. I don't care that y'all have slaves.

I will talk kindly about your WiFi, you know what I mean? Maybe slavery is necessary for good WiFi. I don't know. I'm not a learned man. I just know they have slaves and they have fantastic WiFi. Love. Is this a comparcy theory or a fact? Is this a lengthen fact? Or is this you know for a fact that they have slaves. I I know for a fact that a number of those companies that you listed use prison labor as part of their resourcing and are invested

in private prisons. Do you want to call that slavery? I don't know. How woke are you, Sydney? How comfortable are you being on the other side of capitalism? I mean we all have cell phones though, Like, I mean, what plan are you on? Are you sending a messenger bird? Like? Don't see all this ship about these companies but still use it. Don't be hoped at Lengthen? Oh no, no, no, I absolutely will be hoping and I absolutely will be a complete walking contradiction. I am one hundred Listen. Let

you say this carefully and explicitly. I will happily continue to use these products while simultaneously pointing out that they have flawed mission statements and flawed misuses of their products. Heard you, Okay, as long as we're being clear. But I just feel like the energy that you pushing off is I'm a bad person because I I low key promoted them. And now, oh no, this isn't about you at all. This is just me calling out the mean man who I also will call Daddy later. You know

what I mean. I don't fight it. This is where we're at. I'm excited today. You sent a conspiracy theory that I think might be one of the most classic in all of Black history. That like, if anybody were to ask what is the most quid essential black conspiracy theory, you nailed it. And you said, my mama told me AIDS was created by the government to eliminate the blacks. The black said, I didn't. I didn't put that in the blacks, as I am a part of the blacks.

I didn't want to say the blacks like I'm not a part of it. And we're all sure the blacks was not you pushing away from from your people. It was more of just the way that I assume the government would refer Yes, that's exactly, that's fair. And now okay, this is exciting because now we're getting into the classics, baby, and and is this a classic that you subscribe to? Uh? Alright, so on the record, right, this is all on the record.

On the record, no, no, off the record is like, you know, if they try to cut this podcast up, and I'm like I said, off the record, so I got you. You know, what they promoted as like AIDS was getting the black and Latino community so hard, right, but then when we do the marches and when we do the like the movie Philadelphia, who had AIDS white people. If it was just blacks and Latinos that were highly affected, they wouldn't have been raising that much money. Uh So

that's what I really think. I think that they made blacks the face of it, but overall it was really wiping out the beige and the Caucasians and that's why they were like, let's raise this money. I got you. Well, as a Beige, I'm devastated to hear that my people are being wiped out. But this is also okay, this this is a fascinating take on the issue, right, because what you're suggesting is that we are merely black people are merely front facing, uh, for this issue. We're not.

It's not so much that we are experiencing it so much more than everyone else, but that they want us to believe that we're experiencing it more than everyone else because they wanted to be a black and brown problem. Is that what you mean, right? It's it's a it's a scare tactic. It's saying, well, you guys are out here, you're doing drugs the most, you're you're the most gay. Because at first it was like, oh, well, only like gay people were getting AIDS, and then they realized like, oh,

it's like blood transfusions, like anybody drugs. It's not just the sexuality thing. Anybody can get it. So but if they put that on the community, then it makes you feel less inclined to actually be proud of who you are, like, oh, well all my people are getting AIDS like that, well right, damn. See that's the problem. They're not pitching aids. There's something tight. They could be like AIDS is dope and everybody's getting it. Look at you, the gays, the whites were all everybody's

enjoying some AIDS. But instead they made it a horrible thing that only black and brown people were in. Gay people were being attached to, right, I mean, and then you watched the movie Philadelphia, and you just see so many of the themes in the movie, like, oh, it is about the gays, we are going to put it on the gays. But then you see this white man that you're like, oh, he is relatable, he is human.

Now we care and we have Denzel Washington is like, oh, the strong black lawyer that you're like, oh, finally we get to see him the way that we want to see black people. But he's low key, like homophobic. Yeah I said low key, but it was hikey. It was hikey low key about it, very very very loud. So you remember in that movie Antonio Banderis and Tom Hanks are hooking up. That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was,

I mean, the progressive as fuck movie. But we but we needed to see that movie for us to realize, Oh, but when white people get a it's like, we should care. It's not a bad thing. Oh look how people are treating them so poorly. Right, But that's okay because he was like a big fancy lawyer. He was all the story that white people sort of associate with like a

clean life, life without trials and tribulation. And here we see Tom Hanks at sort of like his most successful at least in movies and television that we've seen him also being afflicted with this terrible disease. Absolutely, and that is when they turned it around and they were like, oh, yes, it is happening to the black and latinos, but now

we should actually do something about it and care. And see that's where they did it even more fund up because Tom Hanks was smushing into Antonio Banderis in that movie and they forced another Latin X person. Yes, associated did with a disease that otherwise in this situation should just be about the white maid. Yes, okay, I hear I hear your tone and I'm on the record. I I hear you on the record. I hear you, yes, but on the record. I'm like, I hear you on

the record, but off the record. Yes, okay, you zoned in on the record. Let's just keep tracking this throughout. I want you to keep telling me these feelings are on the record or off the record throughout the whole of the podcast. That way we know what you really funk with. And what you have to present you funk with so that you know these whites don't turn on you. I love that your light skin, did uh man spleaning my bit? I love it? Well, all right, let's make

it a gender issue too. I would like for you, at any point to tell me when I have overstepped my position and have turned this into another example of the patriarchy. Yeah, feel free. I see you got your little as podcast. Now you want to explain my jokes lngs and I see what you're doing over there. Well, if you explain them better yourself, I wouldn't have to get up in here and do it a second time.

Not just facts anyway, that's funnier than Let me ask you this, yes, because because I think what you're getting into is very interesting. I'm bought in right, But let me ask you this from home? Did you first hear this conspiracy theory? Where do you think the source material

actually came from? For you? I do want to say that it came from I won't say necessary my mother, but like mother adjacent like I'm listening into conversations of like grown folks that like Ramona, which is her first name, Ramona Marie um y'all don't have to black that out. She knows that, you know, she know what she knows.

But adults that have these conversations, um, when they think that kids are not listening, they do talk about that and how um I mean, I was born in Harlem when the crack epidemic was at its highest, and so not only did I know about the crack, but also the AIDS. So UM, I constantly like getting older, like not an adult, but just being a kid and knowing like I moved to California because there were so much drugs in my neighborhood and because of I don't think

necessarily AIDS, but mainly because of the drugs. They're like, if you go and live in Oakland, California, you'll be able to be a kid and having life. Well, that's you're hitting on something really fascinating because even in them talking about AIDS and them talking about sort of like this very terrible disease, right, you're dealing with the second

type of framing. So you're dealing with the drug epidemic that's happening in your community and that's the scary thing that everybody's talking about, which means that AIDS sort of finds itself at best in a number two positions where it's not the most dangerous thing that's happening, when it might have been an equally dangerous issue or you know,

sort of pandemic that exists in your community. I mean, it's hard to talk about this because there could have possibly been somebody in my family that was like gay and when they when people did talk about AIDS, they and also being gay, it's like they're both a bad thing.

It's not good, but also like being gay and having AIDS is worse than drugs, right, right, Because like I could have had one family member that was on crack and then the other family was on with gay and they're like, I'd rather you be crack because then we can fix that. We can fix you can get off of crack, but you can't get off the dick, and you can't fix AIDS. This is all off the record, and that what I said that was off that dick

is to a dick. We can't get you off that, but but crack correct, we can send you somewhere and we can clean you up. Goddamn that delicious dick. Yeah, no, being off the record, off the record, but dick is fantastic, is apparently what we're here. Okay, So that's very interesting because that means it's such a complicated layering of the things that sort of UH we struggle with in black communities. Right,

is it's never a single issue. When white people are being hit with like the opioid crisis right now, they're able to treat it like a regular issue. We are doing too many UH pills, and we need to stop doing pills, and we will set up programs to stop

people from doing pills. Suddenly the crisis goes away. But for black people, you're dealing with poverty, you're dealing with drugs, you're dealing with violence, you're dealing with all these other racism, racism, just general racism that probably lead to all the things that were listed, right, And so you subsequently are never able to just be free of the singular issues because all of them are layered on top of each other. Right. And then at first they were saying, like AIDS was

really prevalent in Africa. Was it the AIDS hit Africa first and then it came to the United States, or was it like it started in Africa but then blew up in America. But then went back to Africa, like, what was it? Was it on four? Was Aids on four? I'm trying to get this correct. Aids is on a fifty city tour international and uh, it made it stops. But you know, like many artists that hit big in certain cities towns, much like you know the Beatles or your jay Z's if you will, then Aids was jay Z,

Aids and jay Z. That sounds similar. Uh. I don't know if you remember this. I definitely remember hearing it as a kid, because I never knew where Aids came from. The origin story that we used to always spread at school was that somebody had sucked the monkey yep, in Africa, in Africa and in all of the continent of Africa. There was never any specificity or where in Africa, but generally an African person fucked a monkey and then uh created AIDS. And in fact, I don't did you hear

it was an African person? No, we just know that it was a man a monkey, and Aids started. Yeah, I ink, as I'm thinking about in the reason I asked that question, a part of me thinks maybe I heard that it wasn't an African person, but that also could have been that Chappelle bit that's very funny, like uh, fucking chimp chim and he feels it like a banana. Well,

this is gonna be another off the record thing. But if we're just like historically looking at the beige man, I think they would be more likely to have sex with a monkey than an African American, right, Uh, certainly a black person. Yeah. I would assume the black people that lived in the area where AIDS was first creative or sort of at least transition, they had seen monkeys before they were called monkeys, so then they well I don't just I don't just see them like being in

Africa their cousin, Right, you don't. You don't see a monkey every single day and be like, I don't know what it is today, but this one looks sexiest for right, Right, it's the person that goes there and it's like on vacation and it's like, I want to try something different, and then I want to put I want to put crome rolls with little beads at the end, you know, and then I want to come on, I want to That's what they do when they're on vacation, isn't I

it happens in the Bahamas all the time. I want to get my hair braided, I want to buy weed from a person who doesn't sell weed, don't want to suck a monkey. Yeah, these are the normal vacation behaviors that white people have participated in for generations. So I let's agree it was a white person who fucked that monkey. Yeah, but in order for I mean, do you know the numbers of how many people were actually killed from AIDS during the epidemic? Uh? Not off hand? No? I what

this ain't a research podcast. Yeah, they said that you were going to do the hardware, so I figured that you will me with some statistics, some numbers, like I will. But I saved that for the second act. You out here asking for it just to be available to you, and uh, I think that's unfair. And if there's a woman explaining, I think you're doing that, No such thing. Don't you think you're doing the wrong thing. We give you enough time to talk and explain. That's that's usually

what women do. I feel differently as a person that lives with a woman. Uh. Currently, Oh it's different. You're married, This is not she's helping you if anything? Okay, this help that she's providing. So when I'm being picked at and held captive for the choices that I'm making, this is a person bettering me. Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up because, uh, it feels like I'm in prison. But I hear now that maybe jail is good for me, that this is going to reform me. This is gonna

allow me to be a better person. On the record or off the record. I'd say it's off the record, but I lost track of what the rules are for on the record and off the record because you weren't listening. I wasn't listening. I was too busy, man, sweating, and I've learned a lot today. Okay, We're gonna take a break and then we're gonna be back with more Sydney Washington and more. My mama told me, and we are that I'm not gay, no more I am. We're back

here with more Sydney, Washington and more. My mama told me. We're still talking about that that gruesome AIDS virus and where it came from and the possibility that was all started by a man who fucked a monkey, a white man, a beige man. As Sydney calls them who had sex with a monkey. I I don't know if that's true. I think for after a while that got refuted pretty quickly. I think white people didn't like that as a potential uh spreader, you know what I mean, like as a

potential source of where this came from. But they also didn't want us to know that it was hitting them harder than what we were the information that we were getting right, that this was for a while just exclusively black and brown. Yeah, because then you go to the walks, you should go to the AIDS walk and it's like all these white people with quilts of their friends and it's like, your friends also look like you. So y'all all were all at this and it's I'm talking about

thousands and thousands of people walking for AIDS. And I'm not saying that black people don't walk, but we were not at those walks like that. And that's that's where it gets complicated, is were we not invited to those walks or were we invited? And we just don't have the numbers that y'all have for these walks. One way or the other. Something uh, something tricky is happening here.

Hell yeah, So I did some research. I dug into some research that I'm now ready to talk to you about, not like before when you were just trying to throw it at me. I'm ready to talk to you about the research I found now, and what I would love for you to do. What I'd love to happen is I share some research and you give me your thoughts

on it. The interesting part of this research that really starts off in a weird way is that they start off by talking about every article I read at least talks about AIDS in the African American community, which I don't know if that word bothers you or that term bothers you as much as it does for me. But I I typed in, like how does AIDS affect black people? And then they're like, African Americans suffer from AIDS at this number. And it's like that feels like a white

person came in and uh, fix this. Does that make sense? But also it does sound problematic for them to just call us black, the blacks black like it just you know, it's uh, they say African Americans, so they don't sound as racist as it comes off. They tongue. Oh see, I take it. The opposite way, and that African American feels like a long way for them to call me nigger. Over take. This feels jarring in a way that I don't care for. But I full agree to disagree about

this one. Okay, keep going, Keep going. So the first real case of AIDS as we know it came in June of right, but before then, there were plenty of cases that probably were people dying or suffering from the

AIDS virus, but they didn't know it as such. They were actually calling it like a super pneumonia and everybody that's dying is like getting this super pneumonia or whenever they were calling it back then, And it wasn't until later that they discovered like, oh shit, this actually might be its own disease and not just you know, somebody with a bad cold kind of thing. When you think about it, were just listening. It's like AIDS in Corona

is it's so close. There's a lot of crossover, and it really all comes down to who's willing to wear a mask, a penis mask or a mouth mask, you know, and you see who's not wearing a mask, and you see who's not wearing a mask, and who's having protests outside about not wearing masks. Literally, entire white cities are shutting down about not wearing masks Black people. If we're not wearing masks, we kind of just do it privately. Yeah, we ain't making a big funk about it. It's just like, no,

I'm not gonna wear it. I'm gonna hang out with whoever. I'm comfortable with the record. I'm gonna say that's not true because I've seen I don't know if I could say this, but Nigga is on the Graham going live at at a club in Atlanta and had a mask on. So I I just I just want to throw that out there. I don't know if that was like, say, but I just off the record, I was like, I don't know, I've seen a lot of people just I was like, baby, where do you live Florida? Oh that's why.

That's why Florida is very prevalent with the with the Corona because they just got hookah everywhere. Well, I would say this, first of all, it's devastating to hear you throw black people under number two. I hate that you hate you need you need balance, you needed balance. I hate that you hate black people. So much. But that's the number two. What I will say is that I totally agree that we are a hundred percent being irresponsible in our behaviors with Corona. But I think the difference

is we ain't making this everybody's problem. This is just some ship that we're gonna do. If you decide to be a part of it, great, If you decide not to be a part of it, go home, nig I'm about to get some pussy, you know what I mean? Like I ain't. I'm not been about like making this some sort of like march on the streets about how this is taking away my rights in part because black people haven't had the right to be that free in

the first place. But I also want to say, in terms of Corona, I can talk to so many people who they know somebody who died of Corona Corona when they were saying how the like AIDS epidemic was happening, Um, I did not know that many people who were dying of AIDS. Sure, you were also five, so yes, they probably wasn't telling me you're right, Yeah, it wasn't like you were hanging out with kids at the playground who

were Yeah. But I mean the parents the way and I grew up with like old old old black people, like over six five, the way they talk, you were gonna know, well, you know he died in that thing, right, got him? What what? What was it? But when you hear that language, you know later on Sylvester died of AIDS. Okay, that's what it was. If they died of drugs, we know that they will have no problem saying that they died.

They'll say the drug, they'll say that. But if it's if it's that dangerous words of AIDS, now we're in a different conversation. Well, it's fascinating you say that because some of the research that I found, because there's a bunch of studies that basically try to figure out where

this conspiracy theory comes from. In a big response that people are having about the misunderstandings around AIDS are certainly like the conspiracies around AIDS are rooted in a distrust of the government that black and brown people don't naturally trust the govern a mint and therefore are not believing the suggestions that the government makes about the best ways

of dealing with any pandemic. That like, just because y'all said it's the correct way of handling things doesn't mean it actually is correct, because there's a history here of y'all telling us stuff is correct and it not being and so like there's a bunch of examples throughout history of like the I tried to dig up things that the government had done to black and brown people, and one of the biggest things that sort of comes out is,

obviously you have your Tuskegee symphilis experiments where they did all that awful ship by basically testing these syphilis uh literally the fucking disease on black people and just letting

it kill them. But then, uh, you have all these examples of sterilization in black and brown communities that like either after pregnancy or during pregnancy or at the age that they are even available to have kids, black and brown people being made sterile by their physician because they are considered, you know, not ready to have a baby for whatever reason. Yeah. So I mean, at the end of the day, I can say that it is a conspiracy theory the the whole, like how AIDS was created

and who was it for. But the way things work, it affects everybody. M hmm. Like it's not a racial thing. It's not a racial thing. It only becomes a racial thing if you're it's propaganda for me, Yes, exactly, That's how they get you, because then now you're talking something that I truly believe, I don't know a hundred that AIDS was engineered in a lab by evil white man

who then distributed it in the black community. I'm not sure that I'm brought into that, But what I am brought into is the very real possibility that they are intentionally created being a mistrust, a distrust with the government and black and brown people, so that they can continue to grow AIDS or grow these negative diseases in our community. That so long as we don't trust each other, there's never going to be any real education around prevention and

health in these communities. Does that make sense? That makes sense? That that definitely makes sense, because when like when we had like the war on drugs, right, it was like, why, well, why is there a looker store on every other corner, or where are they getting the guns? And how are they making the drugs? How are they getting the drugs? And it's like, yeah, that I do believe that somebody was pushing it in the communities. But then it's like, if we think it's the man doing this, then how

do we stop it? M H. And then the propaganda funs up your head and you you there's no solutions. There's just us talking about what it could possibly be and not fixing the issue exactly. And I would argue, I think they like being the man. To your point, I think that there's a part of the white community that truly wants to remain the man in this situation because it enables the power for them and then also

enables us to kill ourselves for their benefit. That like, so long as the man exists, we can't actually fix the problem. And if we can't fix the problem, like you said, they get paid dollars of body for some reason. Yeah, and if you're in if at the time, like oh, AIDS is through sex, and it's like stopping us or scaring us to have sex and we can't comfortably have sex or we're having sex because oh, we're not supposed

to be having sex. So when they were having these programs of sex education and making it like you should be waiting to have sex, everybody is having sex because you're telling us not to. And I'll go stop for I don't know how you feel, but the times I want pussy the most is when somebody says you can't have pussy. That's when I get the most excited about it. Well, off the record, that sounds very man of you, UH.

As a woman. When I hear somebody doesn't want to have sex, that's when I said it's time to go to bed. Okay, Well, now you're making me sent an argument, and I feel like a monster. I think I was thinking more in terms of society, but you made this specifically about consent, and I want to be clear for my listeners that I'm not a rapist. I'm not a rapist. That's not what this podcasts. Honey, you said it. It came off yo tongue. We're gonna take another break and

we'll be back with more Sydney Washington and more. My mama told me, damn we are. We're back here with Morris, Sydney Washington more. My mama told me. We're still talking about that pesky ade virus and where it comes from and why white people want us to believe that it's killing black and brown people. Do you still I feel like your community is UH is having the same fights

that it was when you were a kid. Is Harlem still sort of like in the midst of the same sort of like battle that it was in when you were a child. No, it's gentrified as fun. It's gentrified. I mean when they put when they put the whole Foods there, when they well, originally when they put the red lobster there, I was like, oh, wow, they really

cleaned up the place. And then I realized Opionce made that song and talked about the biscuits and you know why white people know about it, and now that they took red lobster from us, And then all of a sudden there was like a gap in all these different stores. And he's like, oh, if this is not for us, they're cleaning up a street four the Alabasters. So no, we don't. There's not as much crime and there's not as much well they said the New York has I

love a crime right now. But that's because you know, people weren't working for a long time, and you know the cops. And but I will say that Harlem is not Harlem anymore. I mean it is white people everywhere. The culture is seeping out of our hands. Every year. I stepped into I used to live in Harlem Um like six years ago, and I lived in a brownstone and everybody in the building was black. When I left, everyone was white. My fault, Well, I will blame myself.

My roommate was right and took over my apartment and then she invited another white person to live on the on the second floor. It was my fault. I gentrified my own building. But I'm just saying, oh man, you introduced the seed. You were the virus that ate the white blood else that that destroyed everything in that that community. Wow. This is patient zero for gentrification that we're speaking to this afternoon, and it's devastating. I am sorry, I am

I think we should make that the title. Sydney Washington Hate you. I want to play a game with you. And this is a very fun game that I like to call ugly. You're disgusting, I'm gonna kill you. Give me okay, white lies. It's a fun game where I am going to introduce to you a conspiracy theory widely held in the white community, and I would like for you to unpack why you believe that white people care about this conspiracy so much. What do you think this

offers to them. What are the sneaky motherfucker's up to? You know what I'm saying? All right, check it out. Here's your conspiracy theory to unpack white people. For years, you're familiar with the Chicago fire. For years, white people have claimed that the Chicago fire was started by a cow owned by Mrs O'Leary. Catherine O'Leary was started by a cow kicking over an oil lantern and then that oil lantern leading to these massive fires across like three

thousand acres of Chicago. Why do you think that white people are so committed to this argument that Katherine O'Leary's cow is the cause of the Chicago fire. Who's Catherine O'Leary Just a lady who had a cow and they just named anybody it was Katherine O'Leary, Catherine O'Leary. She was a real lady. She wasn't it's a real lady. But it just right there when you start off with the name boom, I'm not. I'm don't believe you. Catherine

at a cow. It sounds like a fable. Okay, long long time ago, Catherine o leary had a cow, and the cow and the cow over the moon. Like, it's just I mean, they're so they have to believe in this because they don't want to be seen as terrible people. Okay, I'm listening. I mean when you look at Rosewood, when you look at the you know, Black Wall Street, when like them tearing down our communities because of race, when you hit them with those facts, are like, oh, that

shows them how trash they are. So if they so, we can't really pinpoint how these fires started. If you say something outrageous like this cow kicked over this thing and the fire started, they won't. We can't say that, oh, white people started this fire to tear down Chicago from the black I mean, you're saying that there could have been something more sinister happening here, and they tried to cuting it up by being like, oh, it was a cow that kicked over the lantern and not one of

us that did that. You know what makes even more fascinating because I think at that time Chicago, at least the sections that burned, or at least part of what burned, was a predominantly white community. But here's what's fascinating. Katherine O'Leary is an Irish name, and at the time that this cow kicks over this lantern. Quote unquote Mrs O'Leary's cow.

The Irish were the niggas of the America's right that like, they were the people that white people detested almost as much as they detested us, not quite as much as they never made them slaves. They yeah, they just yelled at him a lot until they couldn't work at places. But I think that a part of it was like, well, okay, there were no black people around, so we'll just blame it on this Irish lady in her stupid cow. Okay,

maybe you're right. I mean, I mean, I've never even heard of that story until right now, So the story dumb as hell. But yeah, it's not a good story now, not for the one of the biggest wires in history to burn down an entire city. I will tell you that, like the smallest fire can turn into something big. I know this because I burned my house down as a child, and it was just a small like me lighting a

fake cigar that was plastic. It caught on fire and melted into a bag of newspapers that I was so unaware I did not know that these bags were there. And then thirty minutes later, the whole front of the house is just in flames. So yeah, I can't. I can't. You burn it to the point that it was unlivable, Like you could not live there. We couldn't live there. We had to relocate um to our cousin's house and stay there for almost a year. So you, you, in essence,

are Mrs O'Leary. You are this person who may or may not be responsible for it, but that people were going to place blame on no matter what. Yeah, what happened. Yeah, So I'm like, honestly, I was like, you know what, that the cow probably did it. Don't blame Catherine. I'm sucking cow. My bad. Well, here's the craziest part is you said you let this play cigar. You put it in a pile of newspapers. No, I didn't put it. Don't do that. Don't get the story right. It melted

into a bag of newspapers. Okay, it was an accident. It was It was an accident. Okay, you accidentally it was an accident. May not have been associated with but we'll we'll presume that you weren't. Let's just go there. Allegedly that melted into this bag part of the way that Chicago fire happened is because the entire city at that point was made of wood, do you know what I mean? Like was made of wood, much like your

newspaper in your bags and whatever. So it's it's this dumb thing where it's like, well, yeah, if there's any fire, this whole thing is gonna go up in flames, because y'all ain't Why the funk would you make a whole city out of wood? Who does that? Who has bags of newspaper laying around that the home? You know? I just think that it's um, it's time, it's time to you know, be better with our fires and not blame people.

And it's not the cow's fault. It's not Catherine Leary's fault, and we just need to it's not it's not a white lie. I think it actually happened, and we need to respect it did happen, but we need to not blame them for it. Is what you're suggesting that we should free Catherine or Leary from the obligation to the feeling clear Catherine's name. She's a good lady and she had a nice cow in that lantern. Wasn't her fault? Cows. Not the smartest, not the smartest animal. Off the record,

I'm a cow. Okay, Well, I think that does it. I think we've solved all the problems that we needed to solve today. I think more than anything, we've learned that it probably is engineered. And even if it isn't, the intentional engineering of hatred and fear is part of the way that you keep these diseases spreading and dangerous in the black and brown communities. No wonder you're married, you're you're a good man. We really appreciate all the

information you have in that. But five seven or five seven, all right, now this is coming into how dare you my license? My license, my driver's license at five eleven? And I stand by that. I stand by it. I'm a I'm a medium sized man, and I'll never let you degrade you little me. All right, Sydney, tell the people where they can find you. I'm done with you. Go ahead, tell the people. I have a podcast called The Unofficial Expert. It's on Friday's on Forever at All.

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