Good Man Bad Balls (with Gary Richardson)

if you say that. And frankly, if you get cyber bully to death because you said my dad was my best friend, I don't think that any of these like corporations that are like, we gotta stop cyber bully, and you're gonna be like, you shouldn't have done that. They'll

be like, hey, all right, sometimes it works. Hey yeah, Martin ruffling about the hues will be like, hey, you can't be talking about him because you said his dad, Like nah, you you got the green like you got And honestly, maybe we're like as a society better off without me, you know, go ahead. Mark Ruflo says thumbs up to achilling yourself. They're saying my dad is my best friend from singer Racists money stuff, I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep,

there it is there it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that we as a world will never know true peace until we all come together and figure out what the funk is wrong with Tyres Gibson. Fuck climate change, fuck capitalism, but famine, fuck genocide. We need to solve Tyrese or

we are destined to suffer. That is a fact. Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, likes and Kerman is always I Oh. I'm happy to be here, happy to be with you all. Do you know why? Because you're beautiful, each and every one of you white people listening at home about a black black conspiracy theories and the black people. Do all of you beautiful Mexicans stay out there? Know what am I doing? I'm just excited because my guest today,

God damnit Se Funny. He's hilarious. I've known him for years doing stand up and and other types of of silly billy ship all around various cities. You know him from from he was a writer on SML. You know him from fucking uh that what's that show? Uh? The the show with Adie Bryant. Uh Hulu, I can't remember the name anymore. God damn, damn real, God damn it there it is. You know I'm through Strel. You know him as a writer of an upcoming show called Bust Down.

He's hilarious. You're gonna love him. Please give it up for my guest, Mr Gary Richardson. Yeah, I love it. Intro where I forget stuff. That's love having to help bring myself up. You know, you know that we're all doing the work together. That I bring people together. It's a community. It's a community, man, we do it together. Village, village to get somebody on stage. I'm excited you're here because you came with a conspiracy theory that that I

don't think I've ever heard before. And even in the phrase thing that it was presented feels like some country ass. And I know you're from the Midwest, You're you're a St. Louis boy, But god damn did this feel like it was in the words of a motherfucker who choose on? Do you know what I mean? Who just truly is just yes, some Delta ship. This is down Delta. SI. Yeah, absolutely, this some ship that I. When I heard it, I was like, whoa ship? This is definitely where I'm from.

I just learned about myself. I'm like, damn, can I have kids? You know? If I'm passing on these jeans? Sure? I God, I love this. And you said, I want to be clear. You said, my mama told me all babies start off as boys, but it takes a good man to knock the balls off and make them girls. That's the truth. That is the truth. Absolutely, Please tell me more. I I wish I remember how the conversation actually started. It was actually my great aunt who said it.

My grandma's twin sister. He said it. And the thing about my family is, aside for of me and my younger brother, in my generation, I think there's one other dude the generation my mom's generation, I think it's there's one boy in that generation, and then my grandmother's generation there's two men. Everybody else's women. A lot of women, in my face, a lot of women, all of them divorced.

Every single woman, every single woman divorced. So it is so I do find it very very interesting to be like, Okay, this is a good man that made this happen. But ship, you know, buddy, also ain't ship, right, yeah, right, So so they are they are, in a weird way super qualified in their minds to identify a good man, to be able to figure out who's a good man and

who ain't. And it's a kind of uh, it's the kind of like nobody says for real, but everybody just like makes a face, you know, when they're like, it's like it takes a good man to do that, and body's like yeah, yeah, and everybody's like, well I know that. Okay. It was really um wild because all the younger women in my family were like nope, no, wrong, yea, but all the old women were like, yeah, I guess that makes sense. I guess that's that's real. And I was like,

hold up, what the fund is going on? Well, let's let's backtrack a little bit, because I do I number one again. The phrasing is so magical, knock the balls off and make them and make them girls. It's such a beautiful way of articulating I guess genetics or or biochemistry.

I'm not sure exactly what either, because when I hear that, I think that the balls on the baby are formed, a whole baby that has balls, and this pregnant woman gets smashed so much that there's just balls in her womb side like next to the baby floating that just

kind of like disintegrate or disappear. That's wild to me, and it it also implies the possibility that the man, I guess is digging her down in a way that is so genuine and caring and deep in its penetration that it makes a girl as opposed to a nigga who's just sticking the tipping and and just getting the taste. He don't care about this person, and therefore we'll just end up with with a boy a week exactly, and even like a step further makes me think like, okay,

if we are to be lave, that life begins at conception. Right, So there is a child here, and this child has balls, and it sees and it sees the dick coming so deep, so good that it's like, Okay, this family doesn't need any more men. Pop, I'm gonna pack up these balls and I'm gonna be a woman and I bring some of that energy because you need to balance this ship out. Yeah, right,

that this man is saying We're done. I am the good that that this family needed now now all we needed some some women to do women's stuff within the rest of this gene pool. Absolutely wow. Okay, let me also ask these questions. Your your first introduced to this idea, you said by your great aunt, your grandmother's twin sister. Yes, do you when you hear her say this immediately rejected? Do you buy into it? Where are you at when

this is first introduced to you? I I find it hard to immediately reject anybody who has seen as much as she seen. Sure, I find it. I find find it hard to like immediately like cast aside their thoughts and like, well, they've made it this far. They saw TVs come on the screen, and now they know how to use iPhones, you know, like now they know how to how to use Marco Polo. So so they understand some ship and they understand how to adapt two things

that were inconceivable to them at one point. Right, So I try to reverse engineer that, and I'm like, okay, cool, Maybe what she's saying made sense for when she was out there getting it in, you know, But I still even with that, I can't reverse engineering in my head to see what the world must have been like. That was this sort of discovery. Right, it's in some ways, and we don't, I think give older people enough credit for this. They have made transformations comparable to those of

a caveman. Do you want to mean that? Literally? They were at one point like needing to to husk their own and chuck their own food to survive. And then we get it prepackaged and sort of like cut up for us and like removed of all the different pollutants and all bad things that might be in it. And so we're coulding gastro ship. Yeah, and it's like, oh, what the I know that you can make turkey tastes like this and that's all you're doing. You just cut the you cut the head off a pig, and that's

what you eat. You just eat this pig body. And I'm like, right, we don't have to do that no more, you know, And if you're still hungry, eat the nose.

It's sitting there. We got it. Yeah. And so to that point, you have this entire generation of people that lived under a certain like a series of facts of things that that were truly for survival, and now we're looking at it and we're like, well, that's that's not true or that isn't necessary, but that's not necessarily right because it was true for their generation and the things that they needed in order to get to the point where they could use an iPhone or or make a

Marco polo that you take a week to respond to because we don't know how to say yeah, I miss you two to your you know what I mean? Absolutely absolutely. It's like when you see like a time lapse of like a fish somehow getting legs and coming on shore, and it's like, oh, sometimes fish became a monkey, and it's like, I don't understand how it happened, but fishes are monkeys now, and a good man can knot the balls off a baby. You know. That's what it is.

So I'm like, Okay, something that even if I don't believe it's scientifically, even if I scientifically and like with my active brain, rejects all notions of it, I spiritually have to subscribe to it. Yes, And I think that that is something that is often lost in the conversations with the Internet, with the way that we speak to each other nowadays, is that I scientifically can disprove a lot of what my parents believe, grandparents, all of that. But on a s a ritual level, I can still

connect with you. I can still allow you to be a reasonable person in my life and world in mind and not just go shut up, you old bitch and throw you to the wayside. M hm. It's so easy too, It's so easy to throw them to the wayside. Yes, but then what would we be? Who would we be then?

You know, we wouldn't know how that fish got legs if we don't fishes around to be like, Okay, I need to figure out how to get back to this because because it feels like any any day now she's gonna pop off and a lot of nig is gonna be fishes again, you know. And he's like, okay, hey, we gotta figure out how you're gonna get back to be in these monkeys. How are you gonna get you know? And I will say I don't I And we've had this conversation a few times in various spaces. I don't

know that. I believe that the current state that human and have evolved too is our best form. Now, I'm not saying that I think you know earlier evolution. I know for certain like I can't lock it in on some magga ship to be like this is when the thing was great and we fucked it up around here.

But I don't know that us being locked in our phones and sort of like constantly self conscious and struggling for attention while simultaneously not having the ability to communicate with each other is is the best way that humans could be, you know what I mean? Absolutely. I think about it a lot with like change, like political change. Yes, Like I'm like, oh, like a while back, I feel like things were changing pretty at a pretty decent clip.

But now everybody is more connective, we see more ship, but I don't feel like things are changing nearly as quickly. And I don't know that there's like a one to one about that, but it is just interesting to me. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to know where we are right and where we are wrong, but it's definitely, I think easy to say we ain't all the way right right now, you know what I mean? Absolutely? Absolutely. Okay, let me ask

you this. Because she says this to you, you spiritually at least identify or or reason with the thing that she's saying. Do you as a person now far from that moment I assume where she originally gave you this idea. Do you find yourself feeling like this is a thing that still lives in my head? Is this something you plan to to pass on to another generation as as spiritual truth? Or are you like I have two dead this right now for my family so that this no

longer is treated as fact. I am not far removed from hearing this fact. I heard this fact three days ago. WHOA, So I am still reckoning with it. I feel very much reckoning with it. I heard it and I immediately was like, well, this is what what we're talking about it?

And if you're talking about I'm still working with I'm still going through the men in my life, thinking about their relationships with themselves, their relationships with the women in their lives, who they are at work, and trying to think, okay, cool, is this a good man? Yeah? What what kind of child is this good man has? And okay, quit? I need to feel like maybe I need to rethink what it means to be a good man. WHOA? And so I know you said you have a brother. How many

of y'all are? Is it? Is it just? Yet? It's just y'all too so, okay, this and this is gonna be a challenging question, but I have to ask it. Do you qualify your own father as a good man? I will say, I think that my father is a good father. Do I a good man? I think that he has blossomed into a good man at the time of knocking it down, I don't know that he was

a good man at that moment. WHOA, Yeah, So I think if my dad now was and bringing my mother today, you might be looking at a little garisha, you know, if he ready to knock some balls off. If he did it today, absolutely, today he knock some balls off. But back then, I don't know. Back in he's back in the eighties, he was a different kind of Niga,

you know he was. That's so fascinating because it it does, And this, this I think connects back to our conversation about evolution, because it does then imply that this good man is not a permanence as much as a transition, a thing that can come and go in a person's life. Absolutely, absolutely, we are only as good as you were yesterday. WHOA, that sounds like some something. She also said, uh, in that conversation just cooked up and I'm just like, oh,

I might St Louis and really me, you know. Okay, So you're seeing the potential at least of the good man that your dad was or could be, but not the good man that he necessarily was in conceiving you and your brother. Do you feel like you can say the same for the other men in your life who have who have I guess you can are created men

who have who have helped create boys. H I try to think about my homies growing up and what their dads were like, Yeah, and there was one dad that I thought like specifically, like oh, that's a good dude. But as I've gotten older, I was like, I think this nigg might have been lazy as hell. He might have been ship. You know, he might have just been around all the time because he was like not active. It wasn't like he wanted to be around. And he was always like kind of just like talking ship to us.

So I was like, oh he could because he just be like kicking And I'm like, you don't talk to kids like that. For me, Hey man, this is gonna have lasting effects from my on my person. What are you doing? Absolutely right? And now I can talk to my friends about what I'm proud about anymore because there's a there's a four year old in the corner just just heckling me exactly, being like, oh, you think you're good because you made that free throw, and I'm like,

leave me alone. Yeah, I'm trying to get better at least, Like, yeah, that free throw ment a lot to me. Yeah, absolutely, I wouldn't always knocking down free throws. I love that it does. I mean, okay, so you know that I'm I'm having a kid, I'm having a daughter, which naturally this this conspiracy theory gave me a little bit of excitement that it made me feel good, like, oh, ship, maybe I am secretly knocking balls off because you know, I girls largely running my family that this isn't uh,

I think it be. I am the only boy that my mom had, and I'm one of four on her side of things, and then my dad only had me and my brother, but my brothers adopted, so he didn't That wouldn't come from his ball. It was just you know, his pocketbook. I guess he had a bad man a little bit he turned into a good man. Uh, and he's not turning him into a good man really well, he's a he's a he's a fine person. He works

at UPS. Right now he's figuring his ship out. But you know he ain't nailing it right now, but he'll he'll figure he's twenty two. Who among us? Yeah out here? Who? Yeah? Who had twenty two? Would have had a boy? Not me, had had a little girl, a girl? Yeah, I would have made all boys at twenty two. That was that a little army, you know, hellish coming out screaming, mean, just what weird neck veins and absolutely just like knew it was the ship. And it's like, shut up, you

get out of here, you baby. Yeah, you suck, you suck exactly. Okay, So so you're identifying all these people. But no, to the larger point I guess is it does give I guess a man some kind of confidence in entering into this relationship with a a girl, baby and with girls in general, where like some of it feels like it's a measure of the man as he is, and some of it feels almost like words of encouragement for a man going into something that in a lot

of ways is foreign for most men. Most of us don't know how to raise a girl or how to be decent even to women. And so part of it is it seems like it's like an affirmation your aunt is offering, being like, if you end up with a girl, you two ship, and you gotta keep being the ship so that she turns out. Okay, Yeah, absolutely, And I think about that because I think about our homies who have little girls and how they're so they're so present in a way that our homies with like boy kids

aren't like aren't like nothing like our homes. Boy kids aren't present. But there is just a totally different energy watching the homie with like his six month old daughter. Yes, it's like a very wild it's start in comparison. Yeah. So my barber is this dude who who for the most part, is just a ship talker. He spends most of the day just he's one of them I think first black barbers are. It's just every he got an opinion on everything. He's gonna tell you what it is

and what did we tell you what to eat? Yes, exactly. Fishy's like you gotta eat more fish and it's like, yeah, everything that he knows the secret to some ship that that you didn't, And it's like, motherfucker, you can't possibly be this wise. You work here, you're pulling down twenty five bucks every half hour. Come on, now, come on,

big dog, you ain't. You ain't doing all that. But he has two daughters, and in speaking about his experience as like a father two daughters, you can see a type of shift in his in his language and his body language, in just his ability to recognize that softness you're talking about and not feel a shame about it. And I think even with the men that I know that have like sons, they still are flexing their big

boy muscles when they talk about their their sons. They're not able to go like, man, I just I fucking like that guy. I just want to hang out. He is my best friend. I want to kiss his cheeks. It's it's very like, yeah, e cool and not fun with him. It's like, don't you do you know any dudes that are like my dad's my best friend? No? Not good ones? Yeah, for sure, for sure, absolutely, But I feel like I know not a ton of women, but like it's more common to you, like, oh my

mom's my best friend. I've heard that before with women. I've never heard that, what the dude? Yeah, okay, let me ask you this last question. I think we're going to go to break with all of this, that that you are sort of like I guess, dealing in and discovering this piece of information from your great aunt and trying to wrestle with what it all means. Do you feel like you've landed on a definition of what would would allow you the strength to knock some balls off

and be qualified as a good man? Do you feel like you know good man by definition? Not by definition? But I know it by sight? You know, I know it by I know the gate of a good man. You know, I got I got a point out to do man on the street real quick now. But if I had to sit right here in like write it down, I couldn't do that for you. I got you? Are there any Are there any identifying qualities that that the novice should look out for? Is are we talking tuck

and t shirt? Or are we does Is that where a good man starts or is it a good man starts with aspiration? Whether it's like whether a good man it's like, oh, you don't need to have a good job, but you need to know that that you want a good job. You don't be in a good, Like you don't need to be somewhere too, but you need to know that that's where you're headed or that's what you're capable of. I think that is that that would be

the number one qualifier for a good man to meet. Yeah, so, so you can't be one of these dudes that's like content in the space you're in without at least the goal of something bigger, better in your world. Yeah, I

think so. And even if you are content in some ways, I think that you have to be moving forward in other ways, Like at some place you have to be aspirational, right, I like that that and that feels like the reason I like that is because it feels like that allows space for anyone to access that if they so choose, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like anybody can cook. And we're not saying everybody can cook. We're just said, don't be surprised if you come across the motherfucker they can

cook because we're out here. We're out here, and and maybe maybe you're a rat and you you can't be in the kitchen legally, it's not. It's not for you, but that doesn't mean you can't try. Absolutely, God damn, it's some raighted twie ship the good man. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Gary Richards than the more, my mama told me. And we are bat like teenage girls when you say teenage, how are we talking? Yeah, we're here, We're more more my mama

told me. We're still talking about good men and whether or not they knocked balls off of of little fetuses to make sure that they become girls in the womb. And obviously r Kelly uh and not a good man, a man who has daughters, but not a good man, I would say, yeah, Unfortunately, Um, something can just finessy. You know something you can just cong euro step the rule and get to and it's like, damn you at

the bucket. Now, sure there are nights where the villain puts up fifty and you just gotta you just gotta deal with those facts exactly like sometimes you in the garden and you coming up against the Reggie Miller. You know you're coming up against the Trey Young and you just gotta take the l You just gotta be like, man, his hair sucks and I hate his voice, but goddamn,

can that boy play basketball? You can play some basketball wait in sometime, let's talk about some of this research, because a lot of interesting things came up when I started digging into the the quote unquote science relating to your your great ans assertion. So unfortunately, the first at least half of the sentence that she sends in or she said that all babies start off it's boys, is

actually completely untrue. That scientifically every person starts off actually as girl, as like a a girl embryo, right, that that we are essentially are all born as x x chromosomes. And then you know, theoretically, through I guess what's the right word, fermentation, We'll call it fermentation up in that belly, we eventually get enough hormones going on that some of us turned to x y chromosomes, which is how you

make a boy. Okay, which sounds like maybe what my betty ship me saying is that everybody's born as girls, and the bitch they can go and let some balls pop in there. There you go. You know, you don't let these balls show up. But if you really, the ball's gonna stay. Oh wait wait a minute, there, come on now, now you're spinning back. Yeah, yeah, it's like if you're not if you're not alpha. If you're not alpha, guess what somebody gonna show but eat your food, simply

paying simple. You are here. You don't if you don't want to, If you don't want to be a part of the clean plate club, somebody opens there it is And I think and this goes back to your original point about this just being a question of spiritual truth, right that Like, yeah, okay, her technical truth is incorrect. She she is wrong that all people are born boys, and then you knocked the balls off, but she is

spiritually correct. Possib blee that that we are all born one gender and a weak motherfucker is going to allow that gender to be determined for them and others are going to determine it for themselves exactly. Some folks are gonna build a family and some folks are just gonna like see what happens. Yea, And boys are are the

product of see what happens. And that's disappointing as a boy to know that my father was to see what happens type dude, But here we are, here, we are you know, have a daughter, so and I pray I only have daughters for no other reason than to impress your aunt. Okay, so this process of the x X chromosomes and uh for girls and the x Y chromosomes for boys. We all start with the X X and then about fifty one cent of people are born as males. They are actually more males born on average then there

are women. And as it turns out, and I think this is a really nice connection back to what your aunt was saying, is that even though slightly more people are born male, girls tend to have a higher survival rate in the infancy stage. That more, although men are born more often, women are the ones that actually make it through infancy. So bich nigs having bitch nigga and the bitch niggas die. There you go. That is how you hate to hear it, you know, you hate to

hear it like that. Sometimes you hate to hear the truth so blunt. Oh my god, Sometimes thats what it is. It's just what it is, fellas. Don't take it personal, EDG. I didn't do the research, you know, I'm just I'm just reading the bag. I'm just reading the bag. I'm just I'm of course penographer at this point. I'm just giving the basis, right. I love that. Okay, So even more interesting this infancy stage that boys don't make it through.

And this goes to your point about bitch niggas raised and bitch niggas, is that this is said because boys are said to be biologically weaker and more susceptible to diseases and premature death. Now they're not exactly sure why. I'm sure there are some theories, but it does sound like boys in general are just not at the same strength that women are as they move forward out of

the womb. You know what I mean that. I mean that would make sense to me if we're saying that if we all start off as like x X chromosomes and there's this intense transformation to go from x x to x Y, I feel like that has to be draining, you know, so to pop and I can definitely imagine that that It's like, okay, cool, if you gotta like do any kind of like crazy exercise and then go run a raise with everybody else, you're just gonna be more tired. Yeah, you know, when a motherfucker animals, they

ain't at full strength immediately. You gotta build up some strength and you're lying form or cheetah form, whatever the funk it is Yeah, you're gonna be a saliman. You're still gonna be like a sluggish for a minute. You know, you gotta get in the water and soak up. Absolutely so. One of the things that I think also interestingly supports your great aunt's theory is that a man's genes do actually tend to be the most dominant determinant in a

baby sex. That like, because you, as you said, come from a family predominantly of women, it is more likely that you are going to make women. And if you come from a family that's predominantly men, you are more likely going to make a man. And so it seems like just the idea of being around girl els and being around sort of more true. I guess we will

be traditional in this sense. But af feminine energy is allowing you to realize what a quote unquote good man is and thus allowing you to make more more women for the future, as opposed to making some funk niggas for our downfall. Absolutely so, it's uh, once again, women at the forefront taking care of it, making sure that you can be a good man. Yep, you know, it's names thing kind of happens, but here we are. Yeah, yeah, I mean like it's like to be traditional about It's like, yeah,

I get. It's like women are traditionally more nurturing and can pull out or foster those sorts of emotions. And that's what a vulnerability that we don't typically think of when we think of men. But I definitely think of that when I think of parents. Yes, and I will say that that just on an anecdotal level, all of the kids that I knew growing up who had like all boy families were pieces of ship, you know what I mean, Like just all boys. Most of y'all were

just garbage p yeah, dark time. And it's like, come on, dog, yeah, arguing about ship that ain't worth arguing over it, Just like, bro, chill man, y'all take the fun out of stuff. I'm just out here trying to play football and y'all like really trying to like really like diving, like this is crazy that we ain't got pants on, Like no, this is reckless. Bro. Come on man, I'm not about to make the league. Let's just all take it easy and

be friends. Right, It's so wild, Like, yeah, I don't know one family of boys that's like not all dirty, like not all stinky all the time. Yeah, they were always just sort of stinky weirdos. Whereas the dudes that I knew that grew up in like predominantly female household myself include did we throw a little funny, but everything

else about this is pretty chill, absolutely pretty chill. Typically like you think about those dudes, is um like more smooth, definitely cleaner, like like pretty boys, you know, like that type of energy. Yeah, and you want to find a sweet spot, right, You don't want to find yourself being too much of like a pretty boys sort of like soft weirdo that people are like, I'm not even sure

if I want to be around this person. But you don't also want to be a dirty facing the mud kid because you had a bunch of brothers that that encouraged that, Right. I don't want somebody that's like, I got these basketball shorts under their church clothes, you know, and they like and they church shoes. Like that's crazy to me. Okay, I'm just tossing pains to the side. That's crazy. Somebody spent a lot of money on these sands.

You can't just take them off the hoop. You gotta phold, you gotta fold them up and don't just lead a belt in there, bro, come on the bowled up. This nuts. You gotta girl your belt up. Then it's unusable. Just pin striped, pin stripe, dog, don't play with me, Fold that up, put it in the hangar. Love that. So the the other thing that popped up and there. There's some debate back and forth about how true this is, although I do think that there is a fair amount

of evidence to say that it's true. But there is, similarly to some of the things that we're talking about, studies that show that children come out, especially in the early stages, and even girls come out looking more like their father than their mother when they come out of the womb, in part because it's a evolutionary fail safe to make sure that the man feels connected to the child and doesn't like want to just abandon the motherfucker and you know, move on with its life. We don't

give birth to the children. So there's no actual proof that this kid is ours unless it kind of looks like us. I mean, that's the number one that's the number one answer on morias like why is this maybe not George Like? Baby don't even look like me exactly. They don't even look like me. It's like, that's number one, and you're gonna be my kids. You gotta look like me. Yeall look like me. Dog, Look at my eyebrows exactly exactly. My whole family got thick eyebrows. And you don't roll

out with these little fin ast side brows. Not it's not me, that's not me. More were about we're about to be dancing, all right. You got these sang from one piece eyebrows and I don't. I don't know those baby. This ain't my baby. M hmm. Gott to control that. I yeah, I get that. That makes total sense to me.

So in some ways, and for using your aunt's theory, this would imply that men tend to look at girls that look like them and and do everything they can to ensure this child's survival, whereas men tend to look at boys who look like them and basically go with the energy of you'll figure it out. If I figured it out and you look like me, then you two will figure it out, which is why these babies are not surviving at the same rate as their girl counterparts.

That's really interesting, that's really wild. I think. I think overall this is all sort of suggesting a type of investment that naturally sort of happens with a man and his daughter versus a man and his son that like, you become instantly invested in the survival of this person, the success of this person, thus making you a good man, versus with a son where it's like, man, I think about what I think about what kye? Was it he said, I'll be worried about my daughter, I'd be worried about Kim,

but saying, is baby a I worried about him? Yeah, okay, alright, I get it now. Yeah, he's just presuming sanct is gonna be able to like do whatever he did. And that's crazy, it's insane. It's insane, Like I have done these magnificent things, these insane things, and because this person is of my loins, that they are capable of the same, And that is not true at all. That is gnarly truly.

If if ever Jeffrey Jordan's, if ever there were a perfect example of a motherfucker of loins that can't do what his daddy did, look to it, look to young Jeffrey Jordan's and where he had. Now I think he got arrested recently. I'm not sure for Jeffrey Free, Miss Jeffrey. Yeah, free Jeffrey. Free Jeffrey. I'm gonna get that on the T shirt that school free Jeffrey. Jordan's okay. So one of the things that I think your aunt probably did not talk to you about it, and I'd be very

excited if she did. But is uh this question of sort of like the binary conversation or elements of of girl boy, this very binary conversation that's happening, and the question of all the the intersect people in between these binary categories, if you know what I mean. Absolutely, absolutely we did not breach that at the point conversation. But I can go back to her and I can ask her opinion on it. But I would assume my aunt would say something like, well, you know, you know, well,

come on, why are you asking me that? Why are you asking me that? And I'm like, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it, you know, she said, well, I ain't got all the answers. First of all, good for her for having evolved so much from a fish that she knows. I'm about to get messy with you, bitch. I know what you're about to do to me if I give you an answer that I probably really think as a seventy to eighty year old person out in

the world, M I think that she. I think that she has evolved enough to be like, I recognize the trap when I see one. Yeah, it don't feel trap me. This is absolutely a trapp This don't feel like a safe space for me to explore my antiquated beliefs. So I'm gonna go ahead and back off of that one. And it's also like, hey, it ain't my world. I ain't really gotta deal with that. Mm hm, Hey, I wish you're about the best of luck, but um, as

far as well, I gotta take care of it. Ain't that which is which I think is maybe the healthiest way you can approach a conversation that you're not ready to have. I think so often we find ourselves in the middle of wanting to form a hard formed opinion

on a thing that doesn't require all of that. It's perfectly okay to be like, I am ignorant of this thing and or indifferent to this thing, and I can't offer any healing or grace or even thoughtfulness in regards to the conversation you're trying to Even if I have a heart opinion, like the idea that like what that's my heart opinion. It shouldn't be the law of the land, you know, yes, Like yeah, it was like, hey, I feel this way, Like, hey, I don't think I don't

think I would want my kid to be aborted. That don't mean every woman in the world shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion. You know. That's a whole different conversation. Yeah, that that's you have to truly be a crazy person to be like I don't want that, so nobody wants nobody can have it. That's like cool, Like I'm going home, give me my basketball, And it's like what, no, we're still hoping, bro, Like, don't do that. Yes, I don't funk up everybody. Good times. I love I love frozen yogurt.

I when I go and get some frozen yogurt from Pinkberry, I just do chocolate chips and strawberries or some other fruit. But I'm a fruit and some chocolate chips, man, that's all I like. Then they put out a bunch of ship where they got like frosted many wheats or weird peanut butter crumbles, and that ship looks disgusting to me

with my pink Barry. It fully grosses me the funk out, and only I would have to be a psychopath to be so grossed out by it that I demand that they remove it as an option for all the other psychopaths the ship. Absolutely, it's out of control. People have their weird crumbles, right. It's like when people get upset online. It's like like any sort of like question to the masses where it's like, oh, what y'all think is the best TV show right now? And somebody like I think

squid Game. There's like, bitch, squid Game is weak, and it's like, hold on, hold on, I just said I like squid Games. Right, it's a week. You have the whole different conversation. Now I like it. It's for me. Yeah, to me, that is the best TV show right now. And it's like okay, yeah, yeah, go crazy. Yeah. This person was asking for opinions, you're right, and then treating opinions like they were objective and they're not like I

could like impose anything on anybody. So to that question of of intersex, because I do think that this plays an important part in the conversation that you may one day have to have with your aunt. But we and we talked about this a bit in our We did an episode earlier this year, Gary about Sierra being possibly born a man. I'm sure you remember that that legend from when you were a child that said intersex people the popular the world's population. Basically, about one point seven

percent of people identify slash qualify as intersex. And one of the things that sort of makes this conversation a bit complicated is that intersex covers this really vast definition of I guess qualifications right. That it isn't just like a man with female parts or you know, organs on the inside, or a woman with testicles that never descended,

whatever it is. There are all these different nuanced elements of what might make a person intersex, and so in that way, more of us probably fall not under the category of intersex, but fall closer to the middle of

these binary conversations than we actually think that we do. Absolutely, I think that in in my aunts um and what he was telling me, I think that that just points to the multitudes of man you know, like okay, He's like, okay, even if you are a good man, there are you have still done trash shit uh, and you are not. Nobody is wholesale good, you know. And it's so even if you are, there is still of this battle happening. So we are fluctuating. And as we are fluctuating, of

course the balls would be fluctuating as well. Their prevalence or discretion, I think fluctuates as well. That some men are only capable of knocking one ball off at a time, and it doesn't mean that they're bad men, but it also doesn't mean, probably in your aunt's eyes, that they are good men necessarily. And that fluctive fluctuation you're referring to sort of like shows that, yes, absolutely beautiful the

last thing that I'll bring to you. And I think that this is also important and worth talking about and just making sure that we're recognizing all the different factors when we're talking about these binary communities of man, woman,

you know whatever. You got trans people right, Similarly, about point six percent of the American population to identify as trans, and that's sort of in some ways muddies this conversation about what a good man is because there are plenty of people who have what we would I guess traditionally identify as as female organs who who are men? Right?

Who who are trans men? And therefore could potentially be good men making women or making shitty men and not necessarily easily categorized in the way that your aunt probably is able to. Yeah, I think that my aunt would say that that is this man would then be a wolf in sheep's clothing. You know, man is this man is not is not being honest about who this man is or even if he's like trying to be this man is uh is is not totally all there. This man is definitely pull us some trickery, Dawn. That is

a yeah, he's definitely deceitful. Damn yah Yahn seems pretty deep, man. It seems like she got a lot figured out. I think she's in a major way. We gotta get her as a guest on the show. See what else she got cooking up in that would she would talk to you, she would talk to me, and then at a certain point she'd be like, all right, move on, I'm not gonna play this. And she was like, next time I see you on stage, I'm gonna get on stage and I move whoop you And I hold up, Well, you

can't do that with you up there. Cousin. Was you up there A I was. I was attacking the food. I was up there behaving the way that she ain't never seen me behaves. Okay, so she was like, look, I'm glad you had your fun, but I'm a whoop you ask? Yeah? Absolutely, what's her name? Batty? Yeah, my girl Batty. Well, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna keep thinking about Biddy, and we'll be back with more. Gary Richardson and more. My mama told me we are back.

Oh yes, Kenny Lendon, nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back here with more. Gary richards said more. And my mama told me, we're still talking about great aunt Biddy and and her her brilliant assertions about gender and gender assignments and and what it means to be a good man out in the world. Biddy's onesome. How old is she as of yesterday? She is seventy seven. She's still spry. You got you got she's still moving? Yeah, all right, you got a young grandmother and great Yeah. Then early

and my mom in turn got it in early. And here we are, you know, and there you have it. I like, how the way you said that sort of sounded like a brag. It sounds like you're pretty proud of it. I mean, if you got bad, he's in the family, you can't be mad at that. Why why be a hater at this ax? I'm two. We're on for that, m Okay. I want to play a game. We're gonna play, uh, pretty classic game on this show. This is a fun game that I I call homemade Hotep.

This is a game where Gary, I am going to introduce to you a fact that exists out in the world and what I would love for you to do. It's just hotep the ship out of it, breakdown all the secrets and illusions that the White Man doesn't want us to know in that ship. Add whatever stink you gotta add to it to make this ship truly a hope up can absolutely hell Yeah. So this is a This is an interesting one. This is a fun one.

It's apparently that North Korea and Cuba are the only places on the planet Earth where you can't buy Coca cola. North Korea and Cuba are the only places where you can't buy coca cola. Gary, go crazy. Okay, Well, I think this is a pretty easy when you kind of send me up for victory here lasting, okay, because if we think about Cuba, right, we think about that being totally separate in many ways from from the outside where

I think it's Cube. I think of almost exclusively Cubans there because of the embargoes, because the trading there I think of. I think North Korea in a similar way that these are North Koreans. I don't imagine there are many people of other nationalities in North Korea. And North Korea absolutely absolutely, and maybe South Korea. And that's why they can get to Coca Cola, bro. And And what we think about is, let's talk about colonialism, right. Colonialism

is only so good as a colony can be. So if you cannot colonize the place, brother, then you ain't gone. Then there's no reason for you to try to speak a flag there, okay. In Coca Cola is nothing more than I mean, think about Coca cola. What is that. That's cocaine. That's the white man's drunk, okay, And that's cola. That's the white man soda. Alright, Brothers drink sprite, all right,

Brothers drink drink juice. Okay, that's what we do. Not a white man like a dark dark okay, like the Darca cola, because flex to show that he can take that dark soda. He could put that inside of himself and become more in a way that others cannot. Right. So if he cannot flex his dominance in these places, why would he ever send that there? Why would he

ever send Coca cola to Cuba? If we can't see a white man drinking and drinking and Coca cola and que book, Why would he ever send Coca cola to North Korea if we don't get to see a white man drinking Coca cola and Korea Because the white man don't want to see no Korean drinking Coca cola. No, that's the soda. The white man don't want to see no Cuban drinking cocacola. No, no, no, that's okay. So

the white man says, quan Jacka had a ginger rail. Okay, Korean, y'all can have some Us, y'all can have some cream soda, but it's Coca cola is for us only. Now we want to open up them borders and we can talk about it. Then we can talk about in exchange. But until then, you drive, damn that's cool, motherfucking boss God damn spending facts, Babe. I love that the white man is devious, the breakdown of the cola and the cocaine, the white man's drug, the white man's drink sprite, That's

what niggas like. It was a beautiful what a performance. Truly. The only thing missing was a deep seated hatred for women. And you would have you would have gotten a tent out of ten. I'd say, all right, I'm still taking out of ten because I'm getting that. What I got, I'm getting. Listen. The scores aren't negotiable, but you nailed it. I I couldn't be more impressed with your performance. Gary, We did it. I think this is we did the

whole episode. This was so much fun. Could you could you tell the people at home where they could find you, what cool ship you have going on? I would say, don't look for me, don't start to find me. If you see me. Cool, but don't go out of your way. Dog, I'm not online nowhere popping up. That's it. Listen. I don't know a more successful person who's less committed to

trying to uh to connect with the outside world. Gary is is amazingly funny and talented and refuses to to allow you to send him a d M in any space or any form. But but please have him in your thoughts and prayers. I guess I don't I don't know that I can offer to you besides that, And as always, follow me at Langston Kerman. And if you want to send us drops, if you want to send us your own conspiracy theories, your own chaos, if you want to add some chaos to my world, please send

it to my mama pod at gmail dot com. That's it, okay, by bitch my crop chips in your chails. Qualibars are racist, the old school money at stuff. I can't tell me