Freaky Fly-day (with Zeke Nicholson)

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he's hilarious. He's a very talented comedian performer. You know him from his work on on ap bio. He was a writing on ap bio. He has also been on The Good Place, performed on the Good Place. Very funny. Please give it up from my guest, Mr Zeke Nicholson. YEA, hell, yeah, that's cool. That's nice. That like Yeah, it feels digital, a digital warm welcome I'm loving it. Yeah, no, I I saw that. Baby. I went to a bunch of individuals and said, boo for me. Hell yeah, you know,

my uncle is an audio engineer. That's literally his job. It's like he goes to like outside and it's like, hey, like that guy like stirring Man is can I record that later? That's like truly his job. So I appreciate you, uh, good for him that he has a job that that I think deserves to be treated like a very creepy thing, but then also then become super helpful to everything in

in Hollywood. That's it. Somebody's got to get that stern mayonnaise down and and you've gotta be a hero to walk up to another human being and be like, are you stern mayonnaise? Let me let me put a microphone next to day show. Well, thank you for having you here. I'm excited you're here. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that that I wouldn't necessarily uh immediately associate with the black community. But that said, is not necessarily

not black. Like it feels like some ship that that somebody's black ass family member would have suggested, And everybody was like, yeah, I could see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel it. But you said, my mama told me aliens were involved in the disappearance of the Malaysian Airlines flight. That's right, yeah, And to be perfectly accurate, it's not so much my mama told me, but rather like my

wild ass cousin Michael told me, yes, MH. Three seventy, as it's known in the community, taken by aliens in what I guess is just like a rip off of the Bermuda Triangle. Like it's not, it's not it's not even a new point of view on airplanes disappearing, you know, right, right,

because that was essentially the whole although it was. And break this down for me, because I think I always understood the Bermuda Triangle is more of like a Devil's Land kind of vibes, where like planes were disappearing because

because God couldn't cross that area. You your understanding is that it's more like alien associated I yes, I remember very clearly being in sixth grade and hearing about the Bermuda Triangle and for the first time understanding that it was like maybe a portal to outer space and that had been like flown to another planet. Essentially, Oh, that's that's actually kind of cool. Yeah. I had heard portal, but I heard to hell is is what that triangle

was darker? And probably to be fair, I grew up in a very white place in upstate New York with a lot of white people's version of that. White people aliens, black people help. We all got portals? Are portals like is different? White people's portals be like this, but black

people's portals be like this. Yeah we get it. Hell yeah, um but yeah, So my cousin Michael, I remember, we were like, uh, they live in Arizona, and he sorry, like most of my black family lives in Arizona, and I had gone into a couple of family reunions out there, and this one time we were at this reunion and he was telling me like, Yo, he's like this kind of like heavy set, like really like one of those dudes.

His eyes don't open all the way. It's like maybe because he's always drunk and high, but also I feel like even when he wakes up in the morning, it's like he's like speaking through half slits. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If you if you smoke and drink enough, it becomes who you are, right your body does, it adjusts it it turns into the person that that you've always wanted

to be. Yes, totally. I remember the first time I met Michael, I was actually an adult, and he was like, hey, man, I remember I see you since he was a baby. He's like, and that's very much his vibe. So yeah, one time he he had told me, he was like, yo, you know they don't they don't say this on the news, but Malaysia Airlines Black three seventies was adopted by aliens. He's I don't want to tell you remember this very specifically. He kept like trying to use the word obliterated, but

instead he would say obliberated. No. It was like, man, the flight tried to tell me that the flight obliberated, and it was talked about aliens. I swear, I swear. And this went on and on about how MH three seventy had not been obliberated, it had been abduct Like Michael, they didn't say it got obliberated. I assure you, that's not what they're trying to tell you. And if you listen more carefully, we we solved this problem. That's that's

so fascinating. So I guess this this This covers a couple of things because Michael tells you this and he's saying that it got obliterated, and I don't know that I've heard that either, right that, Like, I think that for the longest it was just like a crash. We don't know where it crashed, and we're just looking for for any evidence of where they actually happened. But he's saying, like, no,

that ship got turned to fucking dust. So it was like, because I do remember there was some discussion like had it been shot out of the sky, like was this a military thing? And so I guess he was running contrary to like he was like, I'm not going to take the main conspiracy theory. I'm gonna take it like even crazier conspiracy theory because even that it was like, yes, it seems probably like it was some sort of accident and then it went down in an uncharted pocket of

the ocean. Yes, but yeah, he was like no, no, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't the Russians, it wasn't the US government. It was aliens that have ducked the place. He side note probably loves Manifest on NBC right up his alley. I love that as just a side note. Side note, This guy loves manifest so I don't know what that means to you and your listeners, but just take that and run with it. That's right, um, And not to throw too much at the kitchen saint, but I feel

like it's relevant to the story. Also, yeah, this was like a two full conspiracy theory. One part of it was that the m H three seventy had been abducted by aliens, but somehow it was also coupled with the fact that mermaids were living under Greenland Okay, way a goddamn second, Zeke, I'm listen. I was here with you. I knew where we were going in this conversation, and then sorry, this additional thing got added and it sort of is, uh, you really put some syrup on my spaghetti.

And I'm trying to understand the connection here, but help me out. I honestly don't think it's like there's any real content connection. But what I did a little bit of research after this conversation be what what the fun was this about? And it turned out that Animal Planet had aired a fake documentary about mere people living in

the Greenland Sea. So I think that Michael had just seen this and let's take a genuine news report or maybe it was like on YouTube or something, but yeah, he he took this, he input in this information as being genuine that in his mind it was all connected to like the image through seventy of the people under Greenland. It's like everyone's lying to you. You know, it's going

down that people don't want to talk about. That's so interesting to me because I do think and I I've never seen this documentary nor heard of it, and maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't, but I do think that in terms of it being a Discovery Channel documentary. But I will say that that is the danger of these sort of like reputable spaces suddenly doing non reputable things. Right,

Like we see it all the time. We're like CNN will have like they're they're sort of like not Newsy guy come and do an expose on his opinion about a thing, and then suddenly it opens a space for a bunch of dumb people to treat. Not to say, your cousin's dumb. He seems like a very bright young man, a strong future in front of Michael. I think it's definitely he had a bright future. And now he's he's

living it, you know. But that said, I think it leaves a space for someone like Michael to be like, yo, if that is true, what else is true? Yeah, which is a good perspective when it comes to comedy, right, Yes, got it, he's got it down, your man can the man sounds like he can improv with the best up.

But yeah, it is that, and I think it's like it's also those those reputable news pieces like dipping into comedy frankly, like they're trying to be like, look at this winky funny thing we're doing, and they don't see the damage and I grew that they're creating. And fuck you, wolf Blitzer. You don't get to try to make me laughing pieces of ship. Just give me the news stick

here late man. It's it's weird it Cuomo used to do that ship back before we knew that, uh we knew, I think we knew, but before we officially knew that he was not a great guy. But like the point, the point is like, you don't get to try to be a silly billy man like, because you're going to undermine silly billy behavior on the back end. So make

your choice. Either you're a silly billy or you're a serious person in media, and we can't keep playing both sides of these things, right, So, so Michael tells you this that that image three seventy was abducted by aliens. What is your response, Because this is a man who it sounds like you didn't have like a a super tight relationship with but but you see occasionally do you do you walk with him down this trail or you like,

I check off here, my man. I think like my, I'm like this with a number of my family members who have very strong points of view. I will never be like no and sort of divert away. I will just sort of like walk alongside them as they monologue at me. My father is very much this way too. It's like I don't know. And if you're black, friends like this that it's like there's a certain level of

like dialogue is it's not always the most important. It's more like, you know, I got this point of view, like let me share it with you, and then somebody just being like, yes, I also have a second and unrelated point of view, and then a lot of people

just sort of like sharing their opinions. And so yeah, when he was telling me this, It was a lot of like nodding and being like mmmmmm okay, uh huh yeah, just sort of taking it in and being like, I don't I don't know where any of this is coming from, but I'm with you, man, sure, which to your credit, I think, I think it's number one, very noble to uh to allow him the space to express himself fully.

But the other part of it, I I I at least personally find is that it's a lot easier and maybe healthier to join people in their walk than it is to like try to obstruct the walk that they're on that lies or at the end of the day, whether you agree with him or not, you going and trying to refute it is not going to heal him. He's made his choice totally. I'm not there to change

his mind. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and I don't think there's anything that I could have said that was really going to like he was clearly gleaning some joy from this whole experience and trying to take that away from him for somebody that I don't see that often, you know, Yeah, I want him to believe in magic, you know, he deserves that. I want year old man to have all the whimsy he wants in his world. Yeah, he deserves that.

Let me let me ask you this because I think this sort of connects to what we were just saying about about allowing Michael to have his his magic. I wonder if you feel like there's any danger in Michael's beliefs in the thing in in this image three seventy alien abduction. Is this the thing that that we should be concerned about a need to correct or is that kind of just the nice sweet conspiracy theory You kiss him on the forehead and you go about your business

kind of Yeah. I guess there's two ways to look at it. Like, I think treated as an isolated thing, I think it's pretty light and fun and funny, and like, I don't think there's a ton of danger coming from that. But I think it relates back to what we're saying before.

It's like genuinely confusing to certain people when when animal plan in a place that you go for nature documentaries is just as a joke airing fake ship and then people were like, wait, so this must be real, and like not everyone is as discerning about the media as we are. Okay, Okay, wake up man. So yeah, and I think it's like, frankly, I do think it ties into so much of like what is happening with people getting like radicalized on YouTube? Like I think this is

a really light version of that. So the answer is both yes and no. I think to that, to that question, that's fair. I it it is. It's fascinating, right because a part of me almost wonders if Animal Planet was sitting there making this documentary. I like, hey, nobody watching this ship this is this is gonna be some three am. Our numbers are are super low, the people that are on it are probably high and indifferent, and it's just

this background noise. And then there's one or two people that take it seriously enough that suddenly we're in a different conversation. Yeah, well this is an incredible tidbit. To that point, the two highest rated things ever on Animal Planet where Mermaid Documentary Part one and Mermaid Documentary Part two Get the funk out of here. To god, it

just read it in the l a time. WHOA. So these people are thinking we're making nonsense for nonsense people who like Animal Planet but don't want to pay attention, And instead they made fucking gold for their channel. Yeah, it was a huge for them, God damn it. So now and then that's what makes it scary, right because now they probably feel an obligation to match the success

of Mermaid documentaries one and two exactly. And I do think that they've continued to be like, oh yeahdi like whatever, like all these you know, paranormal activity things like yeah, no fucking way do you air Mermaid one in Mermaid to it? It's that big of a hit. And then you go back to do elephants feel right? Right? Yeah, we didn't know that elephants feel Okay, Time to get to the real ship. Can lost communicate? Let's find out

in an hour expos a funk out of here. We're about to talk about a goddamn uh lockness monster for the next eight hours exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so I think, like, I don't know what's here, Like what's your view on the whole YouTube rabbit hole? Changing people's beliefs in the algorithms sort of like shoving you into a point of view that maybe it was not yours to begin with. Yeah, I mean, I I read, I didn't read, I don't read.

I I listened to this documentary that was like UH connected podcast, the documentary thing connected to UH to the Daily called The rabbit Hole. Did you listen to that? It It explores like this, that one dude's journey from going from like a hyper liberal kid to then becoming essentially a like super conservative, basically a white supremacist, and then once again finding his way back to being like super liberal and anti sort of like all the things

that are Trump is ms. But all of it was based on the algorithm that the Internet was feeding him. And that to me is terrifying because if there there's a part of me that wants to believe I'm so much better than a person like that, right that I'm not going to be a person that falls into that that sort of pocket or into that that dangerous space.

But then I think, like, there's so much of my daily feed that probably is just people repeating back things that I want to hear or that would affirm my beliefs, and so it's it's terrifying. It's scarce the ship out of me. I guess it's the best answer I could

give you. Yeah, I find it all incredibly interesting, and of course I'm not immune to it by any means, But like I just think it's such a yeah, just that that we are like living through an age in which like people's brains are just changing rapidly due to a technology that we don't have control over, and like and that's not even it sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory when you say it, like that is the reality of Yeah, and and even scarier, we're not going to

get control over this ship, you know what I mean? Like, like maybe uh is in theory the humanity survives whatever horrible ship we're doing to ourselves right now, and we make it generations from now, maybe they will be able to handle whatever this is. But no one in our lifetime is about to just suddenly like break open from whatever like a seal we're trapped in and be you know, more insightful about all of this stuff. We're just all

gonna keep falling into the same traps. That's it. Yeah, It's also crazy how many people that like running the right also went through that exact same cycle where they were sort of like kind of like I voted for Obama and then I realized that when I posted like kind of crazy shit on the internet, it got like way more likes, and and then they kept going further

and further, and they're like, yeah, Yeah. Candice Owens was a girl in like her her like undergrad and and sort of like younger days, spending her time like representing like her her black student union and ship. And then at some point she figured out that being a hateful big it was more profitable and part of that was her getting all that she got, had some lawsuit with her university that she she lost or or had challenges with, felt like there was nobody supporting her and everybody was

calling her stupid. So she was like, well, these motherfuckers don't call me stupid, they support me. So here I am. Now I'm a hyper conservative. And it's not because she believes it, or at least at the time believed it. It was just a profit. Yeah. So if we see Michael at the next JA rally, we know what happened. Here's the thing. I do think, at least based on what you're describing, Michael's not going there because that's a

lot of effort for him. Yeah. Well, if he is going, he's he feels like a real sideline character to me, you know what I mean, Like, there were all those people at the January six ships who were like there for a different reason, and then stuff started getting buggy and they were like, I'm not I'm not running the stairs. I just I came to talk about the Mermaids released The Mermaids. Joe Biden, he's definitely not the one climbing railing. He's the one to be like, man, I should look

kind of rickety to me. Now see, I want you to climb the rail because that's not a brother stayed down here with me. Let's get a sandwich. Okay, let me ask you this last question before we go to break, because I do think this is going to be an important one for laying some of the groundwork we've talked about sort of like the absurdity of conspiracy theory. But I haven't asked you how much you actually believe in aliens, Like where are you at in the the alien of

it all? Yeah, I'm in. I'm in on aliens, like, not not in a like immediate or present, not even danger, but just like force. Like I don't think they're I would be surprised if there was an alien contact in my lifetime, but I do believe that it just is scientifically improbable given the scope of the universe that other sentient life does not exist. Sure, so, so you they are not a they're not hanging out here in abducting airlines, but they certainly exist out in the universe. I think

that's right. Yeah, that's where I come down that Well, Michael is not going to forget it. It's a much less whimsical point of view. You're like, yeah, I guess it exists, and he's like, no, motherfucker. Wait up there underland with the Mermaids, they're plotting on next Malaysiantion to what end? Sorry, just last thing? Want the plane for? Like,

that's the follow up question of this. It's a it's a wonderful question, and I truly don't know, and I don't think anything that I've that I've read has answered that question. But but I do think that is what keeps people going because if they had a definitive answer, they would be able to say like, Okay, well that's silly or no, that's not wrecked, whereas if they just go, we don't even know what the funk they wanted for, it's like, oh, keep the mystery alive, fast, baby, keep

that keep that ship going. Hell yeah, all right, we're gonna think a break. We'll be back with more Zick Nicholson and more, my mama told me, And we are back. Yeah, we're back here with more Zick Nicholson more. Ma mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility that Malaysian Airline three seventy was not shot down, was not lost, was not obliterated from the skirl obliverated excuse me, from

the sky, but was in fact abducted by aliens. Is is Michael the type of person who has learned enough in this space that he has like an alien source? Do you know what I mean? Is he like, yo, these aliens from this planet have been known to do blah blah blah, or this type of thing is happened in these places, or is he just like aliens blanket statement, enjoy your corn on the cob. Yeah, I feel like

it's more the ladder like he's not. It doesn't feel like there's like a focus nuance, so like deep dive on the conspiracy, it's a bit of like a catch all, which is why I think we got aliens and people like in the same four sentences, like God, just here's all the ship you don't know? It also sounds like he was really excited to see you. He was like, Yo, see, here's everything I learned. I'm trying to remember, like what was it that I was doing or saying that, like,

was setting him up to share this with me? I can't remember, so probably not that. He's just like, yo, here it is y. Yeah, we start our writer's room next week. He's like, writer's room. Have I got information for you? Okay, let's jump into some of this research, because I do think that a fair amount of this is at least worth exploring in terms of in terms of uh Michael's theory and whether or not maybe maybe this will help shift you closer to to where Michael

has landed. So let's start with the basics. Right. March eighty two AM Malaysians. Malaysian Airlines Flight three seventy takes off from Kuala Is that how you say that? I'm not I don't know, Ku. Yeah, Kuala lamp or Oh. I traveled May and I love that towards Beijing. They're going from Malaysia to China. It makes it, uh, it makes it to its cruising altitude of thirty five thousand feet.

They check in with the various sort of air traffic people that they need to check in with multiple times, and then thirty five thirty nine minutes excuse me, into the flight, it disappears off of the radar and was never heard from again. So analysis from like I guess they're more advanced radar system says that that flight continue to fly around for another seven hours, that like they have documentation of it actually continuing to be in the air for another seven hours, but they don't, I guess

because of whatever. I'm not uh well versed enough airline traffic person to understand, but they basically couldn't know that it's in the air based off the information they were getting, but they couldn't precisely located while it was in the air for that seven hours. I'm curious to know if you think during that seven hours, or given the fact that it was seven hours remaining in the air, if that would somehow sway Michael in either direction. Yeah, I

don't know, like I us, Yeah, I don't. That's an interesting tip. But I actually hadn't read that, Like I had, I had heard the thing that it was on because there's like two radars one right like one in in coal Lamport, and then it was like flying to Beijing, and I guess there's like a certain point at which the radar tracking gets handed off to the destination airport. Yeah. So actually before they even got to Beijing, they were

being handed off to Vietnam. I believe there was like an airport in Vietnam that they were supposed to be handed off to, and in that handoff, ship got wonky, they got lost. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if the seven hours would would sway Michael, either way, I feel like, to me, it is interesting. It really

it's like what went wrong? Like I think that's like part of what is so captivating about the stories, Like we live in this really really digital age to the point that it's almost conceivable that there could be a thing that would be gone for seven hours with no

digital traits. Yeah. So I I love that you brought that up because a lot of the things that I read, and specifically one article that I read, talked a lot about sort of like the fact that technological advances makes the birth of conspiracy theory in this way, right, that because we're so reliant on technology, and because we we believe so much in our technology that we we cannot fathom the idea that our technology would fail us in this way, and so without an answer because of our

our technology all working the way that it does and no ability to find a fucking plane. Now, now almost a decade later, they're they're sitting there and they're like, well, there has to be another answer. I e. Aliens picked that bad boy up. Yeah totally. Yeah. Well, if I'm putting myself in Michael Shoes, I think he would probably say that the whatever like technology the alien were employed to begin the abduction process, opening the portal, jamming our sensors,

like that process just takes time. Those seven hours were all sort of like prep to the portal opening and the true disappearance occurred. That was like what about you know, and the media overseells how quickly getting beamed up actually is. It's it's really more of a seven hour process. It's like cooking a brisket. I was gonna say, it's like dial up internet. It takes a long time. Yeah, we could beat them up, but ship you know, that's like seven hours, so so loud. Just watch all of peaky

Blinders while you wait to be abducted by aliens. I guess that's it. So okay. One of the things that that sparks. I guess this this whole alien side of it, right, because there are a lot of conspiracy theories that get thrown around. People say that the plane was hijacked by passengers. There are people who say the plane was shot down by an enemy country. They said that the plane got lost.

In personal uh, my personal favorite, this is the one that I enjoyed the most, was a person who claimed that she heard the plane was the same color as Vladimir Putin's plane, and I guess his enemies got the two planes confused and and subsequently obliterated. Uh, the fake Vladimir Putin plane instead of the Malaysian airline or you know, instead of the real one. Wow, that's wild. I had not heard that. Yeah, it was some Australian lady in a video who uh who You could tell she doesn't

have a family who respects are very much either. So can you imagine like the guys like giving Vladimir his plane, They're like, what color it's the same color Inlaysian Airline. I love those planes. That something. It's like I studied the broad in Malaysia reminds me of that the audience can't see it, but you're stroking a beard, and Vladimir

Putin is infamously bald faced. But I love that. You're like, no, he's evil, he's strokes the character, you know, and it's a pretty mediocre accent that would say I don't know it. It was pretty good for me. It was so good that I didn't even attempt my version of it because I was like, na, you know that, I'm not going to compete fair enough, fair enough. So the the question of aliens, though, I was like, where the funk do aliens come from? All of this? But apparently the alien

side of it came out. In March, right around the four year anniversary of the plane's disappearance, a voicemail surfaced on Twitter. Very reputable site, very reliable source for any information that you need, Twitter dot com. If any of my users are hoping to find real information, please go to Twitter dot com where everyone is kind to each

other and telling the truth. But that said on on Twitter, this voicemail pops up that was supposed to have originated from Flight MHE three seventies black box, and this recording went viral and eventually the voicemail was translated to and I'm quoting here, danger s O S. It is dire for you to evacuate. Be cautious. They are not human s O S danger s O S. WHOA. Yeah, I did not. I have not heard any of this. This is breaking news. This news from March of gen is

sucking breaking. I mean that's listen. Whether or not you believe that is bone chilling to hear that those words put put together. You see why people are connect to it. Yeah, and even even more so so they released this voicemail right, and then they they also add a series of numbers which was assumed to be coordinates, followed by the message right. So the website Snopes who I you know, I personally

refer to them as hater dot com. But Snopes later discovered that this was completely fabricated, right, that this is a completely made up voicemail and had nothing to do with the black box which was never found for Malaysian Airlines Flight three seventy. But one of the more fascinating things that I felt about this, and I'd be curious to hear your thoughts, is how crazy you have to be to make a fake voicemail for two hundred and

thirty nine dead people. So crazy. That's like in the same way where we'll never know the answer to like if if we're saying the aliens did abduct it, like for what reason? Or two what end? Will never know the answer, like for what reason and to what end did this person make this voicemail? What's your goal? Because it's it's not even like you get to be famous from it. Do you know what I mean? If you do a trolley thing, but you get to be the face of the trolley thing, it's not my it's not

my bag. I'm not a trolley guy. But I get it. You're like, I'm gonna be a troll. I'm gonna make some money off this ship. This is tight. But if you do a trolley thing that you can't even attach yourself to and it just hurts real families who are desperately hoping to find their lost loved ones, what the fuck? Man? It's so crazy. Yeah, this feels like connected to that. Did you read the one that was the phantom cell

phone theory? No, please tell me about this. This is exciting. Yeah, So that was like a theory about this that was floating around, which apparently like when when the family members of people who were on the flight realized that it was missing. They tried calling them and the phones were like going through. They were ringing, but they weren't getting picked up. People were like, They're like, oh, they're in a place where their phones still exist, but they can't

answer them. And I don't know if that is like tied into the aliens or whatever, but yeah, same thing. Eventually, the cell phone company had to be like, no, you can still get a ring back even if the phone has been destroyed or is underwater or whatever, like, uh, that's times. But yeah, just that's such a haunting image of like people like trapped in this sort of like limbo space and their phones ringing, answer them? What is they called today? And somebody's like hello, And this is

the plot of Manifest on NBC. Literally, are you working on man What is happening here? I'm unfest on NBC. But it's a show. I'm gonna look it up later. You're gonna be like an EP on it, just pushing Manifest. You were so worried I wasn't gonna give you a chance of plug at the end that you were just like I gotta I gotta slip my plugs in right

in the middle. That's it. That's it. So one of the things that also people point to, I guess in terms of the reason that this conspiracy theory took off the way that it did and became as as sort of like hauntingly, uh you know, widespread in the way that it did, was the twenty four hour news cycle, specifically CNN they blame for for this specific conspiracy theory.

So Malaysian airline goes missing, CNN like through I guess a series of poles decides that this is like the most popular thing that they could be talking about during this time, and so they go on like this super push to like sell, sell, sell Malaysian Airlines Flight three seventy, and so they're they're doing everything they can to like make people keep watching about this missing airline, even though at this point, and this is weeks and weeks on end,

right at this point, these governments are needing to come together to search more than a hundred and fifty square kilometers of water to be able to potentially find where they think this plane might be. So they know they're not going to find anything. They know they have zero answers to offer a public. But because it's the twenty four hour news cycle, they keep pretending like there's more

information coming down the pipeline. And as the audience started to realize that there was that the or started to feel at least that the people with answers were failing them, they started to fill in answers themselves. Hence Aliens and Vladimir poop. Interesting. All right, so this media landscape has has fostered these these theories. It ain't helping, I think is a great interpretation of this. Even if you don't want to blame Jake Tapper personally, he definitely didn't like

he didn't fucking nail it during this time. I remember what you were saying that I was like flashing to the Trump tax returns, Like do you remember when Rachael I got Trump's tax returns and it was like all this it was like totally normal, but they just built it up for days that this was like the bombshell that was coming. It was crazy. She's like holding up papers being like he wrote off all this sandwiches He's expense. Yeah,

You're like, who cares um? Yeah, I get that, I mean I get I totally like as a person who had that reaction to the to the Trump stuff. I was like, I could see if you were like really invested in the Malaysian Airlines flight and then keep letting you down with the conclusions to be out there trying to write write my own ending. No, you got a writer manifest Now we're getting to the But yeah, no, I think it's we as humans are naturally curious and and sort of like want answers, wants sort of like

a completion of all stories. I think that's sort of like an instinct of the human experience, and with that, this is a story that could not complete itself for various reasons, and so the easiest thing to do would be to complete it on our own rather than allowing, you know, the fear to overcome us. Yeah, totally. Nobody wants blue balls with a story, you know, like that tag line for the show. I like that, you gotta put that on your resume. Nobody wants blue balls dot

dot with a story. So one of the things that this also got me thinking about is how many other documented plane disappearances actually have happened throughout history, And as it turns out, there's been a ton of them. In fact, there's all, there's even been twelve of them documented since two thousand one. Right, there's twelve documented disappearances of planes. Now, some of those documented disappearances, like pieces of the planes have shown up in a way that like they do

know it was obliterated. It uh, it no longer is a disappearance as much as just that plane blew up. That said, there are a few where like they truly still don't know what happened. However, all of that being true, these planes, the other planes excluding Malaysian Airline Flight three seventy were manned by no more than eight people and most of which had only like one or two folks on them. So this is a big deal that a plane with two d and thirty nine versus two is

disappearing from the sky. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah, it's it's frankly, I think impossible. It's it's not normal. Let's say, yeah, m do you we don't have to get to it yet, but do you have an opinion on what occurred? I think that there is probably a very high chance that

that some sort of like international incident transpired. I my my feeling is is that like they did some FUNXHP to this plane, and enough governments are attempting to cover it up because of the national, international implications of something like that. That said, I don't think that they intentionally are hiding the pieces of the plane as much as like it got blown out of the sky in a way that like when they do find stuff, it ain't it ain't good and if we show it to you,

this is gonna get ugly kind of thing. Yeah, it does seem crazy that, Like I I don't disagree that that seems like a viable path, but it's like it feels nuts that let's say they were like, oh, a nine e levinesque thing is about to occur with this plane, Russia, the US, China, whoever. It's like, we gotta blow this

motherfucker out of the out of the air. But then for even like no debris to exist, like for the for the for all of those major world powers to coordinate in such a way that nobody was like, yo, but I did find the tail fin and like the bay or whatever, like it's so crazy. But I have one of those little cups that they give you and I fill you up. That's Malaysian, you know where. Yeah, no, it's fucking it's odd in a way that makes me feel like it it had to be something more substantial

than just crashing. But again that starching, that amount of territory, uh, specifically in in in such an uncharted area. Like I think that's an important factor here that a lot of people don't consider, is that, like, the world don't really funk with the Indian Ocean like that, we don't know a lot about it, and they don't really know how to find stuff there already. And then this plane went down in a way that they truly lost track of everything.

So it's tough. Yeah, and and yeah, I don't know. Yeah, not to further the white savior narrative, but do you think Sully could have saved the day? Sully? Would you gotta believe is the only white saying or that I believe in is Sully Sullenburger. Uh, he's a true genuine white savior. Like he did it. He freaking did it when everybody else was failing us. He fucking did it,

and then he shut the funk up about it. He did it, and then he just went And he's not like going and doing sweet like kick flips with new planes. He's like he's just chilling. I like that guy that said if his politics are shitty, I do not owe me account for anything. That the celebrity that Trump would be like, Yo, I'm friends of him, right, He's just at Mara Alago next week and and just saying something mean to a Mexican man on camera and we're like, fun,

uh fuck Sully. Okay. Here's the last thing that I'll tell you before we go to break, is that I I The last thing that I wanted to to look up, given the fact that airlines do or airplanes rather do disappear, is is there any documented evidence of other planes being stolen by aliens? And specifically, I read the story about

this Australian pilot Frederick Valentics. Valentics, I'm not sure how to say the name, but while flying on October twenty one night, in route to King Island on a one thirty mile nautical trip, he basically calls into air flight Services saying that he has an unidentified flying object maneuvering around him and he the specifically the the voice or the the communications says that he said seems to be a large aircraft below five thousand just passed over me

at least that at least a thousand feet above he was aet it's approaching right now from dew east towards me. It seems to me that he's playing some sort of game. Pretty haunting. Now here's where it gets even otter is he sends this, and then the transmission gets crazier because he first he complains that the other aircraft was sort of like approaching him. Then he says it gets completely stationary.

Next he says it's orbiting above him, and then he reported a rough sounding engine, and the transmission was lost, ending with a loud metallic noise, and he was never heard from, nor was the plane ever found again. WHOA, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Now that said. A lot of people point to the fact that, uh, that this dude was a alien like fanatic well before he went into the air and so very well could uh could just be like a weirdo who crashed his

plane because he's nuts. They also point to the fact that they think he might have faked his own death. But either way, there's a real possibility this dude got abducted by by aliens, and uh, we we have it documented in some version of nine voicemail. It seems like in that world he's probably thrilled about that, right, like if he's already pro alien and then getting confirmed and they're like, that's the one we want. Like he's like, fun, yeah,

beat me up, you know, like fellas it's happening. It's me. This is what I've been wanting, right. I hope they say my last name right. That helped me. I was crazy, but oh, Freddy's finally right about something. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Ze, Nicholson and more. My mama told me we are back. Oh yeah, we're back here with Morrison, Nicholas and more.

My mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility that Malaysian Airline three seventy was was snatched out of the sky. But some little green motherfucker's or talls great motherfuckers. Who knows what kind of aliens they were, We do know they love stealing Malaysians. I think i'd say, say, oh wait, sorry, side note though, did you read that there were significantly more Chinese people on the plane than

any other WHOA. I thought that was very interesting. I think it was like a lot of Chinese people who had been traveling to Malaysian and we're returning home. And see that actually makes me feel stronger about this being a potential international incident because China ain't nothing to play with, you know what I mean, Like, you can't funk around and just killed two d and let's say ten Chinese people and expect them to like go, you know, without answering, uh,

some sort of with some sort of response. Sure, yeah, like yeah, I ain't digging too far into that nonsense. No, no, I agree with you. Okay, let's play a game. This is a fun game, a classic game on this show. It's a classic game called white Lies. Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me two white lies, Zeke. This is this is an easy game where I am going to introduce to you a a classic white conspiracy theory, a conspiracy theory that seems to be relatively popular in

the white community. And what I would love for you to do is just break down for me why you think this conspiracy theory seems to be so popular in the white community. What are white people holding onto with this? Bad boy perfect hell? Yeah, So this is a fun one and it's it's alien related. I wanted to make sure we stayed on theme for this episode. But have

you ever heard of the Black Night Satellite? No? So apparently there's something called the Black Knights out of Light, which many conspiracy theorists are nervous about because it's this space object. It's not well, I won't decide that, but it is a space object that is basically known amongst conspiracy theorists and some believe is an alien spacecraft circling

the Earth, and NASA has had to address it. They it's it's become so popular that they had to come out and say, no, it's just a a piece of space junk. There's no reason to be afraid of this. It has nothing to do with aliens. We know exactly what it is, but a lot of people maintain that it is an alien spacecraft called the Black Night Satellite. My question for you is what's going on there? What are white people so focused on here? I mean from drump it's got the word black in the title. There's

a right there. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And yeah, honestly, you know, like as you were explaining it to me, I was I feel like there is in this sort of like dominant white culture, like this general fear of other people taking what they've got, and I feel like, obviously that applies to minorities of all different types, but I do think weirdly that same type of thinking applies to this like abstract quote unquote evil

of like aliens coming for our ship. So much of like the American ideal is like founded on like I'm on my porch, motherfucker, and like, don't you like I'm gonna protect my ship. But I feel like the other half of that is like there's always a threat that is imminent, and I feel like the idea of like there's a satellite right now above us, just waiting for the right moment to strike. I've got to get my guns. I've got to like protect my house and my friends

and my community. Like it all feels like the it feels like a logical extension of so many of those points of view that are like, yeah, exhibited in slightly more grounded ways. Yeah, that's all right, that's I like that, that's you nailed that. That's a good answer. I do think that's so much of the the culture of the way humans and specifically white humans on this planet as sort of like the lead conquerors of today see things, is that something is coming to take the things that

they've conquered away from them. And there's no evidence whatsoever the aliens, uh if they could travel to us, have a need for what we have. But there is this constant instinct still on the side of white people in the powers that be, to be like, I bet they want our ship, And that's fucking crazy. Like I do actually believe that aliens exist. I do actually believe that there's some possibility that they visited this planet or at least have come into contact with certain people. But I

don't think they need us. In fact, I think they think we're fucking losers. But white people often do not think that way, and that's crazy to me. Yes, there's like a weird narcissism that is connected to white supremacy. It's like and it makes sense. It's like the whole ideas founded on this like central pillar of like this is the most important thing that exists, like my existence,

Trump's all else. I feel like, yeah, that that is like applied sort of like at large when when you're like to those motherfucking my cattle ranch and It's like, we should have a space to prepare. Yeah, and the irony is when those motherfucking aliens do come, we go need Will Smith and the crew to save us. All Right, you think it's not going to be a bunch of black people on that fucking space force. I think that's why Will Smith is getting back in shape. I think

that's why he's doing all that jog. And it's because he knows early celebrity memo that the aliens are in bound. Oh, Donnie gave him a call. He's like, well, we need you. I'm putting all my racist, uh racist efforts behind. I need all I need the classic Will Smith. You gotta get ready. That's it. He's like, let me see if the flight suit still fits. He's in the closet. He's like, nope, Jade, I'm jogging. Stop cheating on me. I gotta go jog. Hell yeah, well, Zinke, we did it. This was this

was a lovely time. I I love this so much. Could you tell the people at home where they could find you and what cool ship you have going on? You know, I am not on social media in anyway anymore because I don't want the aliens coming after me. Um, but yeah, you could check out ap Bio It's on Peacock. If you could watch Miracle Workers is on HBO Max I worked on that show as well. Hell yeah, and uh, keep an eye out for for stuff I might be involved in. Yeah, even eye out, but don't check thocial

media for that. I you he won't be there. Don't send me all the fucking bullshit if you think we got something wrong. I don't care. I don't care. Good luck finding him, bitch, he ain't out there. That said, Uh, please go watch ap Bio and Miracle Workers are both very funny shows. And as always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman on all social media platforms. I'll never

leave you on those websites. I'm too desperate. Uh, and please you can subscribe, follow the podcast right reviews hurtful or kind, I don't care, and uh, send any theories you may have to my mama pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. Okay, that's everything, Bye, bitch. Senor Quala Bears are racist, scad money partially defended turkey stuff. I can't tell me not