Devil Coons (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie)

there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we die deep, deep deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove the theories that you the listener have at home. This is This is a bit of a twist of an episode because we're doing many episodes. Shit on on a Maxi day, You know what I mean? Yeah, MAXI pats, Yeah,

that's exactly what I meant. I mean, you got a heavy flow, sis got it got its super max jumbos, which makes you feel gorgeous. You wanted to hear how how jumbo it is, and and boided your tampons delivered. I'm one of your host Legs and Kerman, and I'm your other host, David Boy and it's just us two and then maybe one other person ever. Yeah, something you and you played it smooth, baby. You brought us right

into it. And that was something Olivia wanted us to mention, is that that there will be times where it's just David and I for episodes, and then other times we will have more of those those wonderful guests we've had in the past. Yeah, we nailed it. I thought that was a great implement of notes. Yeah, so so suck that, Olivia. I didn't. I didn't say that. I respect you as a producer, not me. Suck on it, suck on on

us effectively delivering what you what you asked for. I'm excited today because I guess today's episode was originally prompted and this is why it's a mini Maxi episode. But today's episode was originally prompted by an email that I received from one of our listeners who was very excited loves the show. But before we get into that, I want to say that that and maybe it's better to just start with the email. Maybe that's how we begin, and then I'll introduce the broader idea that sort of

came of it. But the the listener named John sent us a message. John said, peace David and Lankston David. First, I like that. I wanted to share a conspiracy theory I heard not from my mama, but from her childhood friend who was later my eighth grade teacher. Since this was at a school where the teachers were tacitly allowed to whoop us like they were our mama's, I figured it would count. Damn. How old is John? Yeah, John's

got to be old as funk, right, I hope. So he's either old as fun or from Alabama, and that's what I was going to. Deep South. Yeah, this feels like in Arkansas kind of Yeah, you can hate kids. You could just hit other people's kids in Arkansas. Yeah, you can funk up a stranger's kids in Arkansas, like ershop just being Yeah, he called me sir, he kept his he kept his hat on in my Penny candy shop. And that child had the nerve to look me in my eyes. And I beat that out of me. You know,

I'm not accepting that and not in nineteen seventy two. No, no, no, no, no, I beat all these dirty kids. As in Arkansas. I like to believe in Arkansas they still think it's nineteen seventy two, you know, like they don't they don't have the Internet, so they don't really know what year it is. No, they're getting ready for the bi centennial down there, and what a fireworks show that's gonna be. Oh boy, Yeah, that's that's the old fireworks before the Internet. I think

fireworks were better before the Internet. Oh, tell me more about this. I think all entertainment was better than the Internet. We weren't all blessed out, you know what. Oh, meaning like we we've seen too much ship so now fireworks in the field ain't enough. Yeah you've seen like a you know, like a five way gang bang. What's fired in the sky. Yeah, that's fair. I you. I remember tuning into the Bomb's World. I was a big subscriber

to The Bomb's World. And maybe that dates me the same age as John, but I remember they were like there was an entire like sect of the Bomb's World that was just dedicated to like drone footage murdering like people overseas. Like it was just like constant, like sort of like uh fucking night vision goggle footage of people getting like gunned through, like from up above from like planes and drones and ship and that. No, no no, I didn't go said no no no. I liked the

bombs world. I minded my business as far as drone footage goes. Now, if it was somebody getting kicked in the dick, your boy was over, there's your that's your personal drone footage. That's don't look like a victim to me. That looks all I see is a joking progress. I don't feel nothing for nobody on the dig videos, the drone footage. I I feel terrible. That's is that even legal? Can you do that anymore? I can't imagine that you can, nor should you. I think all of it went real wrong.

I remember when I was a kid, they used to have these videos like Banded America or whatever, and it would be like the kid we would go to the kid whose apartment, whose parents like cared the least about him, rent for him, and then we would watch these videos and it would be like people killing people and stuff

like that. Yeah, yeah, no. I I remember working at a company that my dad got me hired for a job on was was working as basically a spammer for this website called digital FunTown dot com where I had to like promote their they're very off color fucking animated videos. It was like adult animation, but it was just without good writers. So it was like a big man's in prison and he prisoned stabbed some squirrels, and the squirrels there in jail too, and what and like that was

the whole vibe over there. And I had to spam for them. I had to go on websites and just send out fucking blasts trying to get people to go to digital FunTown dot com. You're shaking your own huh? Would that pelve? It was? It was up there. It was pretty high at the time. I mean, can I tell you this is gonna this is gonna blow your fucking mind. Oh. I used to write for the bombs World. I'm completely serious, did you really? Yeah? Me and Alison Stevenson.

It was made me bailing for bailed for so long. Oh, I didn't go on the website. Oh, this was this was It was like I was like writing their meme January. They had meme generator software, so I had to make like ten memes every time, and then I was doing all kinds of ship. I didn't I didn't go on it ever. Oh that's smart. Yeah. It didn't heal me. It didn't make me better, but I did I did have I did make one move meme that went pretty big.

It was Michael Sarah and that young pregnant white women woman and it said, don't be silly, Juno, I don't wear condoms. It was my big bombs world credit. Yeah that did numbers. Oh yeah, I don't go on the site, but I'm hearing good things. You know you're not. I don't wear condoms big yeah, yeah, no, it was. That was my entrance into the game. Well, I'd say all that to say that the thing that ended up happening was you go on different website spamming. Sometimes you watch

the videos. I'm watching this video of a kiddie cat and a dog playing together. They're just playing. It's harmless fun, and and then it immediately switched it cut to a video of a dude getting his head sawed off by another man. And then I just had to go to a boss and be like a bro, I can't I can't do this. No. That was it that you were like, No, man, I don't think this is this is gonna keep happening for very long. Yeah, call me when they're kicking people

in the dick again. Yeah, this is this is not fun. That's awful. You had to see that at work. It was the worst day I think I've ever had a workplace. No, we're both laughing, but this is trauma for you for sure. Yeah. No, I haven't let it go. And this was many, many years ago. No, you gotta you gotta talk to somebody. That's like a bad thing that happened. I hope that this cuts out and then it's online. Uh, psych, did you see did you see an Arab dude chop another

Arab dudes it off work? I don't know if they were Arab. That was not. I don't know either, But you know I didn't keep the video up. I didn't finish it. It was it was pretty bad. Yeah, that's awful. Man. Well I'll look at you now. You got a kid, you'll be all right. Yeah, and i'd know I transferred this down to another person. No, No, you kept it all inside like a good black man. So our our friend John goes on to say, one day while we we could have been learning history or social studies or

anything related to the curriculum. She told us referring to this woman who used to beat him at school. She told us about how much she used to love the band Earth When and Fire. Then she found out that they worshiped the devil. That was a Christian school, so I'm sure she meant it as a warning to us

kids about our enjoyment of worldly music. She went on to talk about how she heard they would pray to Satan over their record shipments whoa before they were sent out, and sacrifice an animal I think a goat to consecrate their pact and ensure good sales. I'd love to know if you heard anything similar, and to hear you talk about anything you learned. Love the show. Ben a fan from the beginning. I've liked, subscribed and reviews, So please

don't threaten my knees by bitch. John. Well, thank you John, Yeah, John, thank you for saying this. Oh man, this is so complimented because I don't want to be like I don't want to be rude to your dusty teacher ass Auntie, but that bitch is lying. Yeah, Earth When and Fire being being the source of Satan feels wild. It is man. Listen, if it was a bad group, then I would be like, Okay, granted, maybe that's it, right, it's a bad group. The Devil

used his power Earth then winning. It's incredible. What the fund are you doing? Millie Millie, Millie Vanilli goes and they're secretly devil worshippers. That makes perfect sense. They're German already, it's right there. They didn't even sing their songs, so it's like, oh, you just found shells to take on the voice of Satan for spreading his word. But Earth One and Fire also they're from Tuskegee, Alabama. I don't feel I feel like that's not devil country. I've been.

I've been several times. Why you've done a skin so much? My mom had a friend who grew up down there. It's a good town to go to. You can go to George Washington carference house. They have a there's a drag racing track outside town. Yeah, you know, don't worry abou why I'm into I got I got roots points like that. That that that that that's who told her

about the goat. That's also what I don't understand that means they did that goat ship and somebody was like, oh, I'm telling yeah, it's it's weird, like the goat in particular is like okay, So they're first of all, they're in charge of their own shipments. Earth Wind and Fire is packing up their own crates to be she is going to the fucking warehouse. Vinyl Wait wait, is not in earth Wind and Fire. I'm thinking about the Commodore. Yeah,

they're from They're from Tuskegee. I don't know where earth Winding Fires from. I don't know either wherever you do dreads and shaved heads at the same time. But they're also not going They're not going to the They're all dressed like wizards. They're not in packing warehouses, blood everywhere. I don't, I don't, I don't. And what I feel like this lady is just said, you know what happened? Oh, I think that she got I think because it's very

excitable music. I think that she maybe got two ex side it over some earth When and Fire committed some actions that she's not proud of. Uh, you know what I'm saying, earth When Fire in sex and then she water, which is what she screamed when she came with water. She she she yeah, I think she I think she yeah. I think she might have given some somebody some sloppy toppy or something like that. And then you know, and then felt terrible. And then she was like, that's devil music,

y'all love the devil. Yeah, that's what I think. It's not a bad theory. I will say that that this was in part of where this Macro episode starts to kick in this Maxie episode, is that this conversation led me to a larger questioning, I guess, of whether or not secular music is a sin? Right? That that my mama told me secular music is a sin? Is really the conversation we're having at large. And do you feel

that way? It's definitely something that I learned when I was a kid, Like I when I was like in my teens, I advocated that we go to church just because I was like you, yeah, it was weird. I got our family going to church. So you advocated for your family go to church? Were you so you weren't like you obviously were not afraid to go to church at that age, Like you weren't or anything like that. No, And this was my early teens. Don't get it wrong. I got busy pretty soon after. I didn't even I

didn't know David look at me. I got pussy pretty soon after let's just all be cool. I don't know about a year and then I I figured out that some of this felt very false. But to that the larger thing that that sort of broke me, I guess out of my dedication to religion specifically was going to church which one day and being sent to a basement

for Bible study. And in that basement they played like an hour and a half long video where they accused literally every artist of being a devil worshiper, like literally everybody.

There was the and literally the part that broke me, I'll never forget it is they that there was a part of the video where they were like, and now we're gonna talk about John Lennon And then they pulled up a uh clip of Imagine, the song Imagine where his entire purpose and the song is calling for peace amongst men, and they go this motherfucker said, God ain't real and it's like, I don't, I don't know, bro, I think if I think this is different than what

you're pitching to me, this is crazy because like, first of all, what was the time stand? What Era did? Was this video produced like eighties seventies? It felt like, uh, if I were to guess, it was like mid to early nineties, so they were incorporating grunge and like a lot of ship. But like for me, I wasn't I'm not a that wasn't my ship when I was a kid, you know what I mean. So I didn't None of

this music meant anything to me. But the fucking imagine it's so clearly a song about harmony that it was like I'm reading the lyrics as they're calling it devil worship that I was like, look, man, I don't funk with John Lennon, but god damn, this feels false. Right, Okay, that is I get that. But there is other music where you're like, maybe this is from the Devil, like when like when the hot boys are like, I like the funcker in the ass while he beat up the pussy,

Like that's not from God, you know what I'm saying. Like, there is some music that I listened to and sometimes in my head I'm like the Devil. But but I guess somebody could argue, and this isn't my argument, but I'll play the game. Is that is that maybe God gave us all them holes. Maybe them boys are just filling holes God. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're connecting to Satan as much as making choices. Okay, you're right, so sex out of it. What about just like violent

I'm Gonna kill you music? And that's I think there are things and and truly we I don't know that I have a hard formed opinion about sin or not sin or whatever the funk it is, but I do think that there are a bunch of artists who know that devil worshiping is a thing, and they play into the ship because that's that's part of the fun. I guess that's part of the good time. I worry more about idolatry than devil worshiping, at least if we're talking about Black Guard, is say more about that, like us

idolizing them? Yeah, and just like you know, commitment of life to the pursuit of money and material wealth and designer and all these things, it does come off as worship. Mm hmm, you know what I mean? Like the idea of the of like design of being uses currency and stuff like that, so that I would worry about, but like directly developed directly worshiping the devil is a heavy line, right, Yeah.

I think there's a to me that feels more like what you're describing ego and sort of like toxicity that's sort of consumption and capitalism does to all of us. But it doesn't feel like they're like burning fucking candles in their like you know, living room and being like love you devil and then going and performing at their shows. You know what I mean? I mean, which one is worse? Also,

I honestly I would rather you commit to the ship. Yeah, I'd rather you just wear some horns, go down to the warehouse kill a goat, than like a leather vest and kill a goat. I want you to dress up like a black Hebrew Israelite, but fun but fun, fun, like brighter colors, go kill a goat and then sing September it's worth it. Then it's worth it. Then I'm not afraid of the devil like that. Maybe I should show Oh man, that was a statement if I've ever heard one, are you? I don't. I'm I'm afraid of

people who really like them, are you? Though? Yeah, I genuinely am. I see it in your face. I don't think it's one of those where it's like I'll beat a devil worshiper's ass. I don't think I would. I think whatever they like makes them like have a weird strength that I don't. I don't know that I'm gonna go te for toll was so No, they make me uncomfortable for sure. I've never met one that wasn't skinny.

First of all. Yeah, that scares me more. Oh you okay, because you know it's like we all know skinny motherfucker's who can secretly fight. And you're like, why you ain't got no muscles? How is this that is true? Like I have seen I knew a few skinny guys who like almost like they're possessed. H Okay, that's fair. Come on, what is the devil? Ever? Like, you know, what have you done for me lately? Like? I don't know, Man, you're missing the old devil I missed. I mean I

missed like a concrete enemy. I feel like the new new school devil. Why whoa what a bunch of white ladies got crystals in their titties? That's I'm scared of that. That's fair. I was like, new school Devil feels much closer to Troll. An effective leader, That's what I'm saying. I don't see him. I don't see him galvanizing the people to like, what, like, what major moves have you made, Devil.

I'm I'm gonna be honest. It sounds like you're calling the Devil out and I'm excited to see where it lands. I'm not not damn you heard it here first, Devil versus David Bori. I just feel like I stuck up for that guy a lot and he never really did anything for me. A fight to win it all, and apparently there's a backstory that will cover eventually because because he's stuck up for you, Devil, and you're you're going down, buddy, I got you. Well, we're gonna take a break. I

think that's the most appropriate way to end this. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more, David boy And my mama told me we are back. I'm not gay, no more, I am delivered. Yeah, we're back here with with more David Bory more. My mama told me, we're still talking about the possibility that that secular music, the music of the everyday man is sinful and and harmful to God. Are they hurting God? Is that the fear? Well, I think that we hurt God when we turn away

from him. So I guess, like technically right, because the Devil's all about temptation is the whole thing, right? Yes, yeah, it's this big thing is trying to tempt us into I guess turning our backs on God, be it uh temporarily or permanently, right, yeah, So I guess God don't like seeing your back. No, no, it's like, uh, it's like the way I treat kids in Arkansas. You know what I mean. You show back, I would be I'll

hit you close fisted like a man. So I, upon hearing this earth wind and Fire Satanism question, I want to get back to John's original question about earth wind and Fire. I did, in fact do some research, and specifically I stumbled into a forty five minute Facebook documentary called Satan Minutes. That's just a video a dude put up. Oh no, no, no. They They had two different interviews, one of which was with a brother named uh Watchman Yahoo is reel and uh yeah, yeah, why a h

you and I'm probably not Yahoo, but it's Yahoo. That's the only way I will respect you if it was h Oh, I'm not going first name watchman, you're fine with that? Yeah, yeah, I get that happens. But who's gotta be get? But he produced this along with a woman who, despite introducing himself at every interview segment of his own, he never introduces hers. Is like a much

grainier footage that they film in a park. He's in like a full studio set up, and they never even mentioned who the funk this bitches for forty five minutes. And yes, you goddamn right, I watched all forty five minutes of this ship. Can you do you have a clip? You got to show me a clip. I absolutely have a clip, But I couldn't wait for you to ask that question. Let me pull up some of my favorite moments from self produced. Right, it's absolutely self producing, and

that won't even be a question you'll have to ask. Shortly. You're gonna see it and you'll know without a doubt that this is self produced. Oh man, I'm excited. So first of all, I want to play a clip. Oh yeah, here we go white out O they Okay, there's a yeah, that's all series. Make that ship big yeah up and listen to how the narrator sounds. This is this is

the reason we're watching here. As you see in the previous episode, how Satan, being a minister of music has chosen musicians, singers, and entertainers to be much wicked messages and doctrines throughout the world. Just edwards from from that Twilight has always been a form of worship since the beginning. Who was paused said this because there's absolutely no way Rick James was a devil worshiper. What okay, now you're a wild There's no way he was not. No, get

out of here. Rick James wasn't worshiping the Devil being elicit substances. He was Flow New York's Ricarlo James. Absolutely that motherfucker was not worshiping the Devil. I don't know. You mean, Eddie Murphy's key collaborator is worshiping the devil. Key collaborator is a boat. You tell me he didn't make that song. He turned some knobs in the video. I'm telling you that I saw. I think he provided

a bunch of cocaine. I think he I listened. I think he listened to Eddie Murphy vent about how his girl likes to party all the time and said, maybe you should write that down, and and so you're saying that whole time. He was like, you should write that down for sake. I'm not. I just I feel like Rick James was wild that I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. Also, Sammy Davis Jr. Worshiped the Devil? Go on, is there

any evidence behind this? Or is this There's a clip of Eddie Murphy talking about it on Comedians and Cars with getting coffee. I like how you played this game, because you're now saying if I'm gonna use Eddie Murphy as as evidence, then you're gonna use Eddie Murphy as evidence, which then either forces me to refute my own Eddie Murphy evidence or support yours. Listen, I'm saying, I play you don't shoot or shoot? All right? This is really a Juggalo video. This is terrible. So this video again

forty five minutes on. This narrator is not the person that is is sort of leading the charge. This dude, Yeahoo, Israel is the main excuse me, watchman, Yahoo, Israel is the main. Dude, pushing the charge and then that lady he won't ever introduce. But throughout the video he goes into like this long thing about how he used to Funk or Earth Winning Fire, he supported them, and it wasn't until he really started digging into their messaging that he realized that they were of the Devil, that they

were out here, uh, spreading Satan's word. Okay, I need I need a clip of like a synopsis or oh I I can't wait for you to see it. My favorite part of this before we we pressed play on it, my absolute that's the lady he won't introduce. My favorite part of of the this clip is the point in which he after he starts to to really feel like he's digging into a point, he just starts yelling stuff like emphatically at the camera and you're gonna see a

moment of him losing his mind at this information. In nineteen seventy four, Sun Goddess rose to five, twenty and forty four on the U S, Disco, R and B and Hot One Singles charts, respectively. It was Lewis's biggest hit since the in Crowd. Earth Wind and Fire also recorded a live version of the song for their Gratitude LP in nineteen seventy five. Sun God is Sun worship.

This is exactly what they were pushing in their music, sun worship, worship of the Sun, which is one of the oldest sins in descriptions because it tell you that even um Judah at one time and prayed to the Sun. Sun worship saying God is Sun God is He's too, His sugars are, his sugars are up. Imagine getting that mad at Earth Winding Fire where you're listening to their lyrics and first of all, all these claiming, all he's suggesting is that they're saying worship the Sun God instead

of Jesus Christ. Like that's what he claims, is the devil worshiping inside of this. So this is all just hardcore Christianity, that's his whole thing. Well, he's saying like they're they're asking us to go towards false idols and subsequently in doing that, that's like basically Satan's biggest coolest trick is getting us to worship someone that isn't Jesus Christ. I don't even I don't know what to make of this. I love his passion, Can I say that like I

appreciate he's sick. Man. I want to believe he does this for every single earth when empire so or you're just sitting there like electric Boogoloo Boogoloo Wonderland? What also because and I've always wondered this, all right, if it's why is it always the music? Why does it God have any good music Asians on his side? Then? Mm

hmm don't you wonder that? What? Why God doesn't? I mean he's got some right because like, oh yeah, that's worth noting that that this series, it is a series and the other episodes circle around Prince and Parliament Funkadelic. So he ain't fucking like you said, he ain't sucking with no God, ain't got no good artists on his side, That's what I'm that. I mean, he's got like is mm hmmm right? Right? Uh? What's uh Whitney Houston's mom, Sissy Houston? Uh Uh? I feel like Ray Charles was

on his side. Ray Charles did Heroin. He's like, you don't can do Heroin and love God. I don't know. I think Ray Charles, Here's what I'll saying. I think Look, Ray Charles loved Heroin more then God. Yeah, not at the end, yea for most of his life. Damn what Here's what's crazy to me. By the way I say, I say, you know, I don't think all music is from God because I like to fuck her in the houts while he beat up the pussy. And you're like,

well that could be anything but heroin. That's the line at once and be a child of God, but you can't shoot up a little bit of heroin. I don't think that was my argument, and I and I rolled back the tape if I knew how to do that. My argument wasn't that they are children of God. There was no I wasn't sitting there being like, you know, who's a child of God. Juvie Juvie is a child of God. That wasn't my point. My point was only that he was sharing holes with his friends, not to

to serve at Satan's footsteps. Okay, but you but shooting up is everything Satan's I feel it. It's the same activity. Okay, Well, I I I think that's a fair point that I'm willing to concede on that. Maybe I'm being a little generous when I differentiate between heroin and a tag team with your closest buddies or is it some guy you met? It? Doesn't you know? I don't know? Alright, fair enough, I thought, and I thought in the song he was implying he's going to do it with b G. And they have

more than just a passing friendship, right, man? Could you imagine walking in on that just two of the most talented, hideous men sharing one lady? Oh man? Where did she go after that? You gotta go and like, what do you do? What do you do? Right after? You got tag team by Juvie and b G? Oh? I hope somewhere. I hope somewhere special. I hope like a good movie. No, I bet you would. I hope it's like Golden Crowd, Like just decompress, like sit down, get you some chocolate milk,

can really think about what's been going on? Well? What got me here? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? How did I end up this way? So the documentary is another You've only seen a couple of minutes of it, but it's it's

forty five minutes long. They mostly even the Facebook comments are mostly people calling them stupid and weird for spending this much time on it, and obviously these claims of devil worshiping are not limited to just Earth when it fire, right, Like, there are so many other groups and people you already pointed to, like the Hot Boys, fucking John Lennon, the Beatles, goddammit, Hotel California. When I was looking this ship up. Apparently it's a song that is meant to have Satan lyrics

when you play it backwards. That if you do that, that that back thing that that white people out really excited about in the seventies, sixties, seventies, in that they do believe in backwards records. Yeah, it's called backmasking. Apparently, that's the technical term for it. I use that term for something completely different. You have the Devil, my man, and I'm proud of you. People don't say that often enough. They don't go you have the Devil and it felt

good good. Here's my question, is there any is there? I want? I want because this is such a major claim, Is there any major proof? Like, is there ever? Did you find anything in all of your research where you were like, well, that seems like actually a good point they could be for the Devil. I will say that there were there are people that they bring up where it's like, don't be silly, like the whole hotel the Eagles are are hiding, they claimed they're hiding. Yes, Satan

organized his own religion or Satan he hears this. He had me believe in him in their music, and it's like, shut the funk up. No, no they didn't. It seems like too much work, I mean. And it's also like you don't have to hide it. You could say it like they said, I like the funk her in the ass while he beat up. They just said it the

market is wide open. You could just be saying this ship. Yeah, you don't have to hide it in in a fucking turntable somewhere, because what kind of a fucking losers listen to the song backwards anyways? Yeah, fucking dweebs. What what girl did you invite over that wants you to play it backwards? Yeah? Yeah, you know how how I get laid? I play fucking rock music backwards and then we get scared a little bit. Yeah, that's a penny dropper every time.

So so obviously stuff like that feels very like you shut up, this isn't a thing. But then there's other example is where it's like there's a song from Slayer if you're familiar at all with Slayer, called hell Weights or hell Awaits, and it's like, well, yeah, they hid messages and that ship what's the message by another Slayer album? But no, I think they're they're feeding into the character, do you know what I mean? Like they're doing fucking

the character. Is literally you eating devil pussy and ship on on your album covers. I think that that's only for angels. Ah, I don't even. I Also, this whole ship is crazy to me too, because like, what's the allure of worship being the devil? I think that he'll he'll he'll bring your greatest desires to come true. I'm basing this all off the movie Devil's Advocate. You've seen that, oh, with Keanu Reefs. Yeah, and al Pacino being his his dad for some reason? Uh? Is that? But isn't that

what God's supposed to do to Yeah? I guess. But God's is like a slower drip, you know what I mean? Yeah, God is micro docing your your greatest dreams. What the Devil's offering is a big hit. Oh, because the devil give you like a one shot, Like I'll give you a hit single, God will give you like a family that loves you. Yeah, exactly, and then in the inspiration to write the single, should you so choose right? So

they're not. Yeah, I don't understand you. So you just picked the devil because you're lazy it seems that way, or at least you you really are mad at God about something else, you know what I mean? Like, if if God took my foot, I probably would start to at least consider what the devil's got to say. That's all it takes. Huh, Yeah, that's that's about. No. Wonder why you didn't last long? Your boy loves the jog. You know, I don't take that foot for me. I understand,

I understand. Wait, do you believe in God? Though? I think I believe that we didn't just create ourselves. I don't think that this is an even sci What are you talking about? Well, jorg And, as I said it, it didn't feel like the smartest thing I had said all day, but you really zeroed in on it. I

respect that, Jones. I guess what I'm saying is I believe that we didn't just like walk out of some ooze as like these these fully formed Whatever that said, I do think that that ooze or whatever created it or or what formed humanity, because I do believe the ooze part of it, right, It's just that I don't believe that that was like completely independent of a a greater being imagining whatever. I don't know that that being takes any form that we've ever like presented it as

do you want to? I guess my question is do you believe that there is a supreme being, one who it's over good and one who lords over evil. I don't believe. I don't necessarily know that. I believe in the binary good and evil well enough to know that they're lording over it in that way. That's the most serial killer answer you could have had. Fuck, Okay, there's good guys and there's bad guys. A clear line. No one's ever done anything on the other side of the

line that doesn't match their personality. Okay, I mean this isn't helping. Do you believe it? God? Are you a God man? H? Yeah? I believe in intelligent designs somewhat. I don't think that we got it right. Like I don't believe a lot of Bible ship. I don't believe that there was a flood that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I don't really that. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think a bunch of motherfucker's were good storytellers and we're we're real bought in on the stories.

But I don't. I don't think humans figured it out. There's not even that many of the stories. It's like if you look at Christianity and then you look at like Zorastrianism, pretty similar, completely different time periods, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, so like, yeah, I don't, I don't believe in that, but yeah, there could be something up there. With a shrug and then checks for his phone. I love because now I'm worried that, like something's gonna happen. God's just sending you a message like

hey bro, you fucked up, man. Yeah you asked to fight the day you asked to fight siting early and I was like, yo, okay, I'll funk with this, dude, but then you announced me no. Um. I worried that if if there isn't real God, he's gonna send me back to work in the car wash. That's like my big fear in life for anything. Fuck. I mean, it's a fair fear bro. They got you in there. You gotta wash rims with a toothbrush. It's like terrible. Oh shit, yeah, I felt like slavery. You were at a very specific

car wash though, right it was an auto spa. Okay, yeah you were. They were. They were trying to class up the car wash experience because I've gotten my car washed fair amount and I've never seen the motherfucker with a toothbrush go to any of my nooks or crannies. I'm sorry. That makes you sorry for you, And that's why I don't believe in God, because there's no toothbrushes and ma nukes or crannies, cranny free, cranny free, toothbrush

free cranny. No Jesus, I understand that. Yeah, alright, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more David Bori and more. My mama told me, oh, I found the clip to what's the clip Bettie Murphy talking about Sammy Davis Jr. Sammy told me he worshiped the devil through in uh. Dan Tennis on that restaurant with all the pictures of Sammy was like, you know, Satan is as powerful as God, And I was like, what about why do you think there's so much anger in the

world and chilling and murder and the Satan? And he saw my reaction to it and kind of lightened up on it, and he was like the dantan of this darkness that the candles on the table and Sammy's face over the candle. You know, Satan is as powerful as God's. I mean yeah, I mean that he is. That it Why why would he lie about that? That's too specific? That's too specific, right, Yeah, No, Satan is as powerful as God. And then he didn't have a and then he was like, yeah, I'm no, I was a kidding.

I was just kid. You think steak, so you're gonna get back in the stand up. And but if somebody as powerful as Sammy Davis Jr. Because he was powerful, right, he was pretty powerful. So that makes me think and it's like he was pretty powerful and he it's not that's not like a well known thing. So it makes me think, is there like a crew of people who

were the devil behind the scenes? Probably? And that goes back to if there was ever an industry that I've observed, which basically it's just to car washing entertainment, if there was ever a place where something like that could thrive

behind closed doors. I do think entertainment would be a place where that could happen, right because because of how many things we naturally do that are sort of like hidden in in secrecy and and illusion and things like and things like like like like scientology and things like that, Like there is like levels of that type of or like when Kabbala swept through Hollywood, like the entertainment industry is prone to having things like that affected. I feel

like that makes sense. I guess my question for you is, do you then, because you're saying like you believe in intelligent design, you don't think that it's necessarily taken the form that we're presenting it. We're we're similar in that way. Do you then still believe in the devil? Are you like, yell but the Devil's realist? Fuck? No, because it's like, you know, you gotta have white to have black or whatever.

So no, I I don't. I guess I believe because I also have a very strong feeling that it's like dangerous to make your own god like completely. I think that kind of looks people up a lot of times. But I do think that like if there is a higher power. I see it as being more kind of ambivalent to the left or the like. I don't see it being as supreme. I don't see whatever the designer is this being supreme good so that there's no reason for supreme evil. Yes, I feel similarly, and it does

feel crazy, I guess. And this is where the question goes, is why if our theory, if what you're presenting potentially is true, that like this is much more of like a neutral god who isn't choosing between good and bad but merely just showing humanity as it is reflecting back at itself. Right, If that is possible, then why the devil for all these individuals? What is the devil in fact meant to do for them if they're investing? I

don't know. I mean, I think the devil it To me, it seems like the devil is supposed to symbolize, like you were saying before, like a quick fix that's supposed to be like the antithesis of like hard work and earning it. I feel like on a moral level, it's more like even if you're even if you're not saying even like the devil is just like uh, a stand in for like loose morals and ethics, you know what

I mean. Oh, so the Devil is more like a concise mission statement relating to much more fucked up shit, right, And I think it's I think it more stands for like the idea of not having disciplined in your life for whatever. You know what I mean. I got you it was like, ah, yeah, I share holes with my boys, and I don't wake up at a reasonable hour. The Devil exactly exactly. I'm not. I'm not I'm not doing I'm not waking every day with a up every day

with a purpose. I'm not dedicated to anything, you know what I mean? I want, I don't work hard. I think that's all the Devil. Yeah, I mean to that point. One of the things that always surprises me with the music, specifically the music being played backwards, is that the Devil's never putting like a message in that's really like a

fucking crazy message, do you know what I mean? Like it's always like Satan's real that that's the big message that they're slipping into this ship is like Satan, he's alive, And it's like okay, cool man, Like you're not I'm not learning anything it's not like Satan believes in you and wants to talk to you about repairing your relationship with your family members. It's just like or even kill your parents. Yeah, it's never that active, and so it's

that way. It feels like, to your your point, just dumb dumbs trying to to make a quick fix more than actually uh them having figured out the exact articulation of like this is how we we get into the minds of the youth and and destroy God, right right, No, I don't. I don't think that. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, if the devil is real, it can't be these passive messages. It's the kids are Internet savvy. Everyone's media trains. You have to have like appointed direction about your ship. You

can't just be out here saying you exist. That's not gonna get it done. Yeah, it's got to be the same like Lucifer says, killed the President on Thursday. Needs to be in the music for me to believe that this is true, Like Satan is ship right, like n f T s our Mine, like like he's gotta like he's just dragging. Yeah, I made you buy pictures that you could just have, you dumb bitch. That's me. Do you think the State would say bitch? Even? Do you

think Satan doesn't cuss? He's like real clean. I think that he's almost so smooth he doesn't have to whoa. That feels like what Will Smith got told before he started rapping. You know what I mean? You know the best rapper is so smooth he doesn't have to cuss. And Will was like hell yeah dog, oh yeah. Well, because I always like and this is and this is something about me. I've always assumed that if the Devil were real, I would be very susceptible, like and I

always think who would turn me? Like somebody really smooth? Like who's that guy? Not Uncle Elroy? Who's that actor? Oh man, he's got like the deep voice ving rains. No, no, no, no, he was the guy with that he was in Uh he was Kirby Kirby and Dead Presidents. Hold on, I'm looking at looking at him up. You're not talking about the All State guy, are you? No? No, I met him once. Didn't feel like the devil. Oh are you talking about the dude Keith Davis? To me? Who seems

like the devil? Right? And Keith David doesn't seem like he has to cuts. He just kind of yeah, he's just kind of smooth like that. Yeah, you're just getting But also doesn't he seem like that's what the devil would look like? And now he's got Keith David. Uh and I'm a big fan. But he's got an evil fucking face. No, I'm a huge fan. That's why I like you. Yeah, he's got a goddamn devil's face if

I've ever seen one. Yeah, that guy looks like he could, like he could just say some wild like you would walk into a room and it would be just him and he's got like some brandy and he would just say some crazy shit. Yeah. That's how I feel about Keith David. And you're lucky if it's Satanism, because it might just be him like scatting at you and you're like, this is so much scarier Keith David. I wouldn't be

alone with Keith David, regardless of what I'm saying. So the last little bit that I'll bring up in all of this, I I it got me thinking about more contemporary examples, right because we're talking about Slayer, we're talking about John Lennon Earth When you fire all these different groups should be talking about John Legend, John Legend, and we're talking about not cheating John Legend, not that early

ship where he was constantly cheating on his girls. No loving John Legend, civil rights activists, John Legend, sexiest man, People's Sexiest man Alive, John Legend, sexiest mouse Alive, John Legend. I couldn't believe it. It made me maybe stop believing in anything. It was who who says? I never heard that from him. No, there was like a short R and B singer who's not known for being sexy, that's

already maybe the devil's work. There was like a short window where he had like started working out and got like a hair hut, and every girl was like, god damn John John Legend is sexy. But that was like twelve years ago, and he was He didn't have Christie Teagan, he didn't have kids yet. It was truly like a fucking brief blip in in our in our giant universe. Yeah. I don't even remember sexy John Legend. I always remember

assistant principal asked, John Legend, oh, sweater best John Legend? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's when he was cheating on everybody. I mean I mean maybe that was maybe that was sexy. I can't tell. I can't. I just he doesn't seem sexy to me. I don't know what to say. Look up John Legend sexy. There there's pictures of him with come gutters. He got them them cume gutters. I think Keith David is sexier than I'm not arguing against that. I think he has

got the d'angelo's out. Yeah, okay, yeah, but again those are twelve years ago pictures. This isn't This isn't contemporary ship. Do you know what I mean? Yeah? No, I got I got you, I got you. I don't like this at all. You got to delete that from your their history. No not I no. So one of the things that got me thinking about is some of the the more contemporary examples, and one of the first people that came

to mind for me was Travis Scott. Right, Travis Scott is somebody who is constantly being sort of like associated, whether intentionally or unintentionally, with like the Devil and Satanism and ship. Right. He also seems like the kind of guy who would he feels like he would dabble in that m just because he seems like kind of like a not don't so what what did you find about

Travis Scott? Did you find anything? Well, one of the things that I did find was that there are a lot of people accusing him, specifically around the Astro World catastrophe right of of this festival where people died because he kept performing or not because because it was overcrowded and because people were not responsible about making sure that there was like safety protocols put in place, and then he kept performing while these safety protocols sort of had fallen,

which people then put on him as his responsibility, whether right or wrong, who knows either way. There's like a big TikTok subsect, much like a Bomb's world, where they are very adamant that like he was doing some demonic shit intentionally that day that like his stage apparently was was shaped like a crooked, upside down crucifix, which was meant to be a pathway from Satan from Hell to

like Earth that he was introducing. He was wearing a shirt apparently that had people walking through a door away where they like passed through the doorway and then have horns on the other side. And then there was a bunch of you know, videos obviously of him like sort of like staring very sort of dead eyed at people as they're being ambulanced out or or dragged out of the concert while it's happening. All Right, I want to

say this very careful. Yep, I'm listening. I'm excited. Here's this that goes back to this point of then the devil is weak as out all that all that million dollar crooked cross stage tickets bought and you could only ice like four people. That's like, that's that's bad. That's not good stats. Maybe that's terrible. You're a loser. Yeah, that's a bad free throw percentage. I'm saying, like you did all that to just throw up a couple of bricks, like you all right, Satan, Satan, if anything is, is

not effective at his job. Yeah, that's how I feel. If that's if that's the case, Okay, I mean the internet feels differently. They feel like the I think it was eight, if I'm not mistaken, eight people who died. There was enough to prove that Satan was secretly behind all of this. Now you gotta hit like to make me even move. I will say that one of the things that I struggled with inside of this is the Travis Scott of it all right, Like he look Travis Scott at the core of him, and I get it.

He dabbles, he sort of plays, and he feels very weird and strange to the art form he's in. But Travis Scott at his core is still a nigger from Houston, Texas. And his real name is Jack Quis. Do you know what I'm saying? Really, yeah, this man's name is Jack Queens. Ain't no country nigga named Jock Queez ever read the Satanic Bible? Do you know what I mean? You can't read the Satanic Bible in line at the Turkey leg Hut.

You have to, It's not possible. They'll kill you. Those big old corn bread church people will beat the funk out of you. I don't think you could read it in Houston, to be quite honest, That's what I'm saying. It's just this feels like a stretch to say that. I don't believe that Travis Scott reads much less it's readings in the best practices for for introducing hell gateways. And as far as him staring dead eyed, he does

that a lot. Because I've always wondered what Travis Scott where I'm like, I don't know if you're faster slow? Have you never seen Travis Scott play basketball? No? Oh, no, you've never seen it? Is it good? Oh? I want to say his name is Chuck que He does. He absolutely does. I'll look it up real quick and said it to you if you can. I'm really excited about this. I never even thought about him playing basketball because he went to art school. Uh No, Travis Scott plays basketball,

baby like a lot. Uh who hard to know? A man? I'm so excited. But he he certainly moves with the same confidence he moves with on stage. I want him to be good. I want him to be good. You want Travis Scott to be good? I want him to be like I want him to be like unselfish, like really really good passing. Whoa, you're a big Travis Scott fan. No, I don't do that to me. You like that those kids died? Why did he do that with his arm? What's happening? Hooping? Baby? That's not what that is. That's

what draving guy who could look like? This is my favorite party there? Yeah, there was an angle that you'll have to see at a different time. I think he's just trying athletic. I think he plays basketball like he went to art school. Yeah, there's one where you can see from the back from his back. How crazy the releases and that was the one that I was most

joyful and sharing. But here we are. That's okay, that was okay, That wasn't that wasn't as No, and he is much worse than than what those videos sort of reflected. I feel like if I was a rap star, first thing I do, I pay that guy lethal shooter immediately. Come on, man, I'm wanna be in the All Star Game and and people will be like, yo, he can hoop. I'm not. I'm not trying to make the league. I'm not trying to fix whatever, you know, dreams I lost.

I just need people to be like, you know, who who you want to be when compared with other people in your field basketball, they want to be like, hey, stand up comedians. It's like Lightston Kerman, yep. I feel like Clayton English. I don't know who else. No Garden Swarts, he's pretty good. Oh no, yeah yeah, yeah he's from Denver. Yeah. I think Travis Scott to me feels much more like just a dude playing in in imagery that services the selling of his brand more than an actual devil worshiper

I I could believe that as well. I mean I I just he's like a hype beast, yes, exactly. And he's he's then making devil worshiping like palatable for a fucking tween. Who right, he's a sellout. He's a devil sellout. Yeah, he's He's truly a devil cone. And that that wasn't a term that I thought I would use today. I love it. I love it so much. I know he's a devil. Travis Scott is a devil code. Can we please stigle this episode double CODs. I think it's the

only option we have at this point. Oh man, he's a I'm gonna call man. I'm gonna man, my little brother just left. I would have called him a devil coon. I'm I'm saying that. Every I'm gonna take it to the barber shop. He's gonna your brother is gonna be like, you know, what the fuck, He's not gonna know how to take it. That's you'll be a while. He's a devil coon. He's a devil. It's perfect. It's too good. Do you think Sammy Davis Jr. Was a devil coon

or was he? I think based double what we now know from this one conversation with Jerry Seinfeld and Eddie Murphy, then yeah, Sammy Davis was a devil coon. Al right before this episode ends, can we just list four known devil coons? Well, Sammy Davis was a one eyed devil cone, which feels like that's the worst version of it. The only kind that's worst is a Kentucky devil coon. Oh yeah,

Kentucky Kentucky devil coon sounds bad. Yeah yeah, Okay, So Sammy Davis Jr. Known devil coon, Travis Scott suspected devil coon, suspected devil coon. I would I would go so far as to say Terry Cruise is a devil Y Cruise is a heart if anybody was ever a devil coon, ever one there was ever one. I think Terry Cruis is definitely pulling in devil crew like he he feels like he's definitely playing a different version of Satanism than Travis Scott and Sammy Davis. Right, Yeah, No, I think

he's the one who's really believing it. Yeah, Like he's that's he's trying so hard to be so soft, like to be seen it. I could take to the porn. It's because you're devil cooning. Yeah. He feels like sort of the uh, the tom Cruise of his field as far as Satanism is concerned, where it's like, you're so good at it. We we don't even want you to hide it. Yeah, we want you to be out. Yeah he's yeah, okay, yeah, he might be King Devil coonon. I think he's King Devil cop for sure. Okay. And

then who's the last one. Maybe Brian Pumper. Okay, I can see that. Yeah, like you gotta you gotta fucking diversify your bonds. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. All of them do a different thing. It's all different. If if Satan needed four horsemen of his version of the apocalypse, ha ha ha ha ha ha. You want glass Side Sammy Davis, you want silly jump Shot Travis Scott, you want buffass Terry Crews, And then you want butt naked bran with a long ass dick next to our horses.

Long ass bit. This makes perfect sense to me. The four devil coon to be a Parker. What a what a combination. Oh man, it's like it's the perfect access of evil. They're hit in every spot, all the bad, all the bad. There is not a black person who subscribes to this podcast or frankly any other podcast that has not at some point invested in one of those four people. Yeah, to their detriment, because we all did it. We all did it. We saw we saw white chicks.

We thought Terry Crews is harmless. Yeah, we were like, he gets it, he gets what this joke is. He's on our side. No, but never know, he meant every word. And we've also who hasn't who hasn't invested some time in Brian Bumper? Come on, dog, come on. And then you're like, oh no, you'ar that song King Daggling he made? Do you ever heard that song? No? You never heard King Diggling by Brian Bumper. This last video for today, I swear to God, No I haven't. I didn't. I'm sorry.

I thought you were cool. This is You're gonna love this. Oh man, if this, if, if there was ever a video of it, screamed Devil COONO. I can't wait for Devil Coon and merch to start dropping on the internet. We get Devil Cone T shirts. We can get one wear a Devil Coon T shirt without any other context attached to it. I'm surprised that you're not in the right now. It would mean the world to me if that was the the product that we started pushing on

this show. Is that the first time you've ever said that? Yeah, I've never called anybody a devil coon before. Damn, this is a good day. Is all right? This is the last But this is this. You could watch this and you're gonna be like, oh, this is devil Coon. Right, I'm excited. Oh man, I can't wait. I'm so glad I get to show you this. You should read that thoughts important when you have a dream and a passion keep going in major investor will recognize pumping. Oh no,

pump her piece and love album coming soon. Okay, King Dangling. He had to turn it down. He needs to know. You need to know whoa. My favorite part is that he did it all with the same cadence as the boys from the Super Bowl Shuffle. It's like, yeah, yeah, maybe the worst rap I've ever heard anybody rap. Yeah, yeah,

that's so, that's that's devil Yeah, that's devil cooling. Because you're selling he's selling us back as like these animals for just swinging dicks and fucking each other's girdles and ship he said, He said, I have nothing else to offer. I shouldn't exist except for this goddamn dingle ling and this crazy dance. He thought that was gonna catch. He was like, hold on, pause the music, y'all need to hear this first king dingling dance. Yeah, so thought you

didn't know that's what he he was doing something. He's like, don't you dare confuse that with the fox trot. That's the king dingling dance right there. Oh you thought this was the twist us sick. Oh, that's the king dangling dance. I think king dingling should be the official dance of the devil. That's that's great. So they're four horsemen all lined up on a hill. Their backs they're they're in shadow, they've got these hoods on, and as they descend the hill,

they're doing the king dangling dance. Are they on top of their horses or is this just I think they can stand on horses yet? Oh they stand on their horses. Well, I think they're standing on the horses like and they're doing it, They're doing the dance. Wow. Oh this is hard. This is scary ship. This is fucked up. If I worry that, it's like a bloody marry thing where if you do the King Dingling three times a loan in the mirror, come out to your girl, it's like you

can't even had ship. You just hear your girl scream out because Brian Popper is up in there. Jesus Christ oh Man, Well, BORI I think we did it. I think I think we covered everything we needed to cover in this episode. Please tell the people where they can find you what cool ship you have going on. You know, it's just cool guy jokes, said seven on Instagram. I'm doing a show at the Alesian in Los Angeles September. You can find the link two tickets on my Instagram.

Comes see Langston Kerman and Faded Comedy Denver dot com Faded Denver best black and brown comics in the country. We bring them to Denver just for you. Langston is going to be headlining September six. Yeah, yes, right, yeah, and that's all and and you know everything else. Just don't don't don't do the King dangling alone in the midnor don't do it. Don't you do it three times? Because God, that's it for you. Unless you don't love your girl? Are you that big bumper fan? Are you

You're willing to risk losing your girl for this? You don't want that? Come on, Come on, so go to David's site, go to all his shows. I don't know what we're doing anymore. I'm I'm at Faded September six, September A through the eleventh. I believe I'll be in Sandman Comedy Club in Richmond, Virginia, and then I got some other ship coming up in l A that I would love for people to show up to. Specifically, I believe nine twenty two, I'm gonna be at at the

I'm saying it in weird ways. September two, I'm gonna be at UH at the lyric hyperiod during an hour that I would love for folks to show up to tell them my little jokes, you know what I mean? Beautiful? All right? Well, if you want to send us your drops, your own conspiracy theories, you can send those to my Mama pot at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. And if you want to see video

and all of the things that we watched today. Those videos will be in the episode notes of this episode, so you can watch all our bullshit and otherwise that's it by bitch Chips in your Quali racist boasting money. If she do many Turkey stuff, you know, I can't tell me nothing, my lo