Crack to the Future (with Kaseem Bentley)

money stuff. I can't tell me bang bang bang skeet skeet skeet. There it is there, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dine deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that Zoe Sell Donna is the greatest black face artist of time. Name an instance, name a single instance of black face that has brought the world more universal joy than Zoe

Sell Donna in black face. I dare you anybody volunteering That lady has brought us hours and hours of laughs and memes, and we should be thanking her for putting that black face on not shaming her. She's a She's a hero in my book. She's a goddamn goddess. I'm Langston Kerman. I'm confused. You don't remember when Zoe put on black face. No, I don't know what you're talking about at all. Zoe's out down, and I love that

you don't know this. Zoe's out down. At one point was cast to play Nina Simone in the biopic biopic. It's not It's not how I first pronounced it, for sure. Uh either way, Zoe's out down. It was Nina Simone. They shot the whole motherfucker. I think it's available. I'm not a sure if they ever released it. But look up Zoe sat down in black face that you will be stunned to see her the same color as you and dead serious about it. Oh no, I see I did. Oh no, Zoe. You Nina would be so upset. Uh

be serious? This light skin. She a woman who spent her entire career just trying to be proud of her beautiful black skin and be appreciated for for the gifts she was bringing to the black community, is then being mocked. But a woman who was exclusively fucked white men on camera, almost purely, I would say in life as well. You know what's crazy to me is I didn't know. I didn't. I thought this was against the rules. This is black face inception. I didn't. That's that deep black that's watching

the Watchman. I don't like it because this precedent means now rappers can do it. Yeah, this is so so bad. Yeah, it's like when you think you're about to have a chocolate cake but it's a butterscotch on the inside and you're like, what the fuck, But there's more chocolate on the inside, so yeah, it's just chocolate being like I wish I would scotch too. Oh no, Zoe, Yeah, I bet you. It was pretty good back she seems like

she would be a bad Nina Simone. That's also what's stunning about the Chows is it's not like they picked the best singer or like the most talented personality. It was truly like, no, we just we like her. We're gonna do that. I feel like to be play Nina Simone. You someone has to have called you nigger with heart? Is that that's like I know that sounds that sounds crazy, but you know, what I know. I think that's a

hundred percent. It has to be a really it has to be really earned, like you have to know how hot fish grease gets. Yeah, this is this is maybe as close to asking me to play like Jiman Hansu, you know what I mean? Like this is would you black face for a room? Would I black face for a role? If they were like, hey, Langston, the Terry Cruise biopic is coming out. Oh, I would black face for the Terry Cruise bio bio gas? Are you kidding me? That's the that would truly I would retire off of

the Terry Crews biopic. Mew and black face popping my titties? Come on, bro dancing that you're telling me that's not the funniest movie to ever exist. Yeah, I would really like it. That would be so fucking good that I guess what we found is that I like light skin black face. Yeah, I think I think honestly, if you want to be a pioneer, you'll do some light skin face. And see, I don't think it works that we can pay and I just look Panamanian just like you can't.

You can't reverse engineering. Yeah, come on, man, Heavy Heavy D has got a whole career that has. You're telling me you wouldn't play heavy d we're doing. I would, I would pay them. I don't feel like I don't feel like Lee Daniels. You gotta Lee Daniels, please, man, I ain't never asked you for nothing, Lee Daniels. Damn, come on at Lee's like, damn, you don't. You don't ask me for nothing, man, come on, And then I just started doing now that we but we're gonna do, man,

that would be amazing. Come on, man, that guy was. He was fat and wearing like green leather. Do you know he was gorgeous? He was. He was fucking gorgeous and so proud to be fat. That was. He was never sweaty, which is how you know it was Hollywood magic. Yeah, I'm sweating in this hot ass hat right now. I got a fan over. He had zip lock bags of ice just take to his skin, just under his shirt. It was like he wouldn't even secretly. He wasn't even

that attic heavy. It was just like that ice. It was all that ice to cool him down because he never not one time. You never saw that guy because you know how other facts like there's pictures where they caught Big out of pocket and he's like sweatiest out. Yeah, there's no heavy sweaty D. Sweaty heavy sweat heavy sweaty D. That's me ye heavy No oh man, wait you say it. If you guys something to tell, just send them back. I mean, I'm just thinking, it's like I've been coming in, coming,

coming in. We'll it will. It's a skin bleach his whole face. Seen that the whole process. So you don't be sweaty D Mann. You learn the dance steps and you gotta get the bags eye. Which is really funny because I'm thinking I'm blowing away to back like Heavy D. I never saw him sweat because like like I'm I keep real it's hard to be as fat as us and not sweat. It is like a miracle. Like one time I went to a taping for Guy Brandam that

like you could freeze meat in that studio. It was it was degrees and it was a side of rocky beef like like so that the Heavy D didn't sweat, could dance and had a fucked up I motherfucker I he had he had come, man, he had a fatty walk. He had a heavy up. It wasn't that. It wasn't that milky. It was milky bro. Yeah. I thought he had more of a music soul child going on. I didn't know that. It was like fatty WAPs is a full like ain't nothing in that hole. Somebody shot d

in the eye. You know. It was like that. The D was for dope and it was a bad dope, no heavy, and he bagged so many that Veronica Webb. Yeah. Also, I don't know if this troupe, but somebody said he oh he went on a day with Howie barry Man. Damn dam can. I don't doubt that for a second. I would have sex with heavy D. That man was. He was smoothest, smoothest, goddamn fat silk. I don't know what what what the equivalent is, but fat silk was for dick, you know what I mean. Don't signed He

signed his tack with his dick. You know what I mean? Heavy heavy dick. He was just right heavy dick here here and here and h That was like the only rapper I saw growing the black one who didn't like rap. They liked heavy d. Yeah, he was. He was so fun man. That was my favorite rapper. Growing up like this good act. This my fucker gets it good in life, in life and no blastes. He had no glasses on in life you barely knew he was. He really had it man. Yeah, well, we can't keep memorializing Heavy D

for the rest of this episode. We got other fat rappers we can talk about. Yeah, what what a fun journey to begin with, and we haven't even introduced our guests. He's he's a hilarious comedian. You've already heard his voice you and we haven't even introduced our co host. I think, uh, frankly, I think you were just confused and never in fact said your name. But I'm yeah, go ahead, I'm I'm Heavy D. David boy is silent, No Avid Borri, It's just Heavy D from now on. Somebody's got to pick

up the mantel. It's like, it's like, how there's gonna be a different black panther now and you gotta you know, there's a there's a new Heavy D in town. And yeah, there's a new Heavy D in town. This one's a girl. We are today, No, we are Freddy all right, I'll say this, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I am moving on. You got a damn he smooth both now our guests today, hilarious comedian. We're so happy he's here. He is a a podcast, a a podcast that a

returning podcast. If I'm understanding correctly that it is hilarious as fuck. You know him, you love him. It's it's called White Slavery. It's coming back out December fift Give it up for Cassim Bentley. Something's go. You understand this is Kransa come early. You know what I'm saying that you're gonna get twenty more downloads this one. You know what I mean, this one? You know you hear that, David, We're doubling our downloads. This is very exciting. Watch out

this American life. You know, we're We're really excited. You're here. And you came. You you've been a fan of the show. I I know you've you've watched a lot of or

rather listen to a bunch of the episodes. And you came to David specifically with the conspiracy theory that when he shared it with us, we were like, hell, yeah, we gotta get Cassism on immediately, because this is something, at least personally I had never heard although we've had weird debates about it in the past, but it was not something I'd ever heard genuinely pitched as like a sincere argument. But more importantly, it's one that I think is gonna bring. It's gonna be spicy. It's gonna be

a spicy episode. You said, my mama told me black crack addicts are more wild than white crack addicts. Yeah. Look, if you hate cops just because the cops, the next time you get in trouble, call it crackhead. That's right now, you say stuff, you know, and it's a stupid ass comment. Because crackheads on the phone, dog, you know what I'm saying. If they do, they got an Obama phone the only last two weeks, you know what I mean. That's guys problem.

The cracks girl to crack his girlfriend has the phone, you know, or like they're high functioning brother and or sister. Oh yeah, or the guilty mom who feels that she was responsible. Right, he's on the fucking pooky yeah, you like, he can't he can't live in the house anymore, but he still uses my phone. You can't find him on the phone. You can just go to his mama's basement, you know what I mean, Just like he's somebody worried about him. He needs a phone. You've got to give

him your phone. You guys, just go find his case manager, you know what I mean. You'll find you'll you'll working out, you know, And let me ask you this, tell me specifically about this conspiracy. Where does this come from? Here's what Here's what happened when I was I don't know, I don't the boy was alive night five, but but it was like a little baby in Africa, like I was.

I was making phones, making phone kidding diamonds off the diamond mine, you know, there taking phones and sell each other's. He brings them back the week. So he's sitting there and that came up a airplane. Right. So I'm in I'm a I'm not a Black Studies miner, but I would take a lot of Black studies, right. So in this class about Melani, because it was just like it

was just it was just really interesting. Right. So in this class, and I don't know the teacher's name, but she was one of them professors that like was mixed. But she looked like like she looked like that lady who recently lost she's a Republican, but she's white, but she we thought she was black. The story broke like a week or two ago. I don't even remember in Arizona.

You mean, yeah, she looked like her yeah, when they're like when you do the way back photos, and like her hair was like curly, but it was still kind of wavy white. And so when she let us know she was she was one of the people that was like that kind of black where she's like, she don't she looks kind of black, like like a hologram. She

had this like racial hologram. Right at one angle, she was Puerto Rican, but then if you look at six degrees, she would kind of gets like a bleached out and Jerian, you know what it's like. So she hit us one day with this thing. I forgive the classes called it couses about melanin, but that when she hit us with this one thing, it was it blew us all away because she had she had brought the video from this

one professor. It was making all this waves, uh in the night, he's about melanin, and she said that one of the problems that it has some melanin is that it had a can attach itself to certain drugs namily cocaine, because there's like there are certain bonding agents that will that are they're founding. It was just a discovery, said found a melanin so meaning like the darker that you are. And also they had to deal with your hair to you know what I mean. So it was just like

I don't know, like the more courser curly whatever. But they said with melanie, they said that they found it that the darker you were right on the deck, the darker the pigment would lack itself on and in hard time separating itself. So the guy was sterizing. That is why you see he was making a moving trying to help making sure that black people should gain more. The more fund there's more attention, there should be more of

a concern of getting black people off this. And he's trying to make sure that the people in the community understand I mean this um terms like drug treatment, you know, even to the government understanding that this it's it was just groundbreaking discovery. And when we heard it, you know, like when black people here's something so funny and they can start running away, you know what I mean, comedy Jack, when everyone's like, oh, it was like any of us

in this class. It was all different times of black people. And there was an old black lady. I think she's like a hundred and two, and it was like young people like me. We all went. We all had our hands in our head, our hands and our afros in our dress. We was like what and she's like, yeah, that's why you when you see it, it's harder for black people to get off drugs. And we all were just like frozen, and it was just why white doing the class? I think it was taking copious notes. I

feel like we're for the government. Right. He's like sitting there, I know you're gonna see. It was like they found out right, and that he never he never came back to the class. That he came one more class and then dipped down. He probably look a senator somewhere, right. It's like geving me some day. He was just writing in a notebook, gonna have to kill this light skinned bitch to the lou boys. But the teacher, I'm gonna

have to find out. I wish I would have found a day that teacher she dropped it because she would have had a microphone. She would have been like Chappelle because dropped it like that's right, you know, I mean, like Chris Rockets dropping at the end of the set because she dropped a fucking bomb on us. Bro Okay, So so she says this to you, are you guys it sounds like you guys are immediately bought in. You're not.

You don't question this at all. You're not sitting there going There was a skeptic kind of like boring, you know what I mean, like, you know, a real sellout motherfucker right fun Martin Luther used to be his name on AIM. He didn't even you know, because he was like a real like he I think he was the only guy I had never met at the time that was like I believe he was conservative, you know what

I mean. You know how CNN it has like Andrew R. Ryan a bunch of other like angry funny lights black people seeing that, and there's always that one kind of bow tie, you know what I mean. Yeah, he was. He was like old Don Lemon type energy if it's out, you know Don Lemon before before the racial uprising. Don Lemon was real funny, you know what I mean. He

was a real fucking weirdo. And then all of a sudden, he like got cool and gay out of nowhere, and it's like, nah, Don Lemon, I remember when you was out here sucking titties and and telling black people to pull their pants up. He was acting real different because he was Don Lemonade. Yeah, was like he was. You know what I mean, you remember, we remember who you were, Don Lemon, pepper Pepperidge Farm remembered Lemon, you know what

I mean. So you hear this, You hear that that potentially, uh, black crackheads are are more activated by crack than our white counterparts. Are you then, uh spreading this gospel? What's what's your intent with this information? Are you then? Are you trying to like liberate crackheads? How do you? How do you how do you approach this? I was like Malcolm to x, you know what I mean, T shirt like I was out there because I come from a provider family, Like my mom worked as a social worker

and she also worked in pregnancy provincial teams. My father he worked at juvenile you know what I'm saying, and gets in the community. It was just normal for us to have these kind of discussions. So I'm my third eye is way open vising the whole nine. I got, I got one classes right here, right, I'm coming. I

come home like like what a mom? I was like, I heard this thing and the teacher said today that you know, Melani and can bond itself to crack And it's just like what And you know, my mom is busy doing some black mom stuff, you know, putting it in her hair, you know what I mean? You know, you know on the phone like this, you know what I mean. Anything, She was like wait what yeah, and she's like that would explain brother Ken. Brother Ken was this brother in our neighborhood that was in the nation

and he was he was like off craft. I didn't know. He was like he used to be a party my mom calling party boys, right, you know mom record, Yeah, my mom, My mom, My Mom Party. The album's party Boys. The first it's like the first the first track is wash your Nuts. Imagine my mom, you know what, the super funny light red Fox. I can see my mom could be like, yeah, you gotta watch the nuts, you know. Yeah,

it's a that's a perfect Red Fox record. You want to party always on a piano behind her, you know what I mean? So my mom's light skinned mine is blown you know what I'm saying, Then my parents are gonna through black divorce. So my dad lived downstairs, right, So my dad lives downstairs. My dad sitcom. That's not that's not an ideal set up, but black divorce I do. I've always I've written sh about this, but like in

where I'm my neighborhood, there's a whole other thing. When I talk about on stage for podcast, people kind of get what I'm saying, Like a lot of like people who came together and pute like civil rights or rights, and you learn after the Afros turned to Jerry Curls, you know what I'm saying, and others and ship like

I like this motherfucker's so. But you you come from the hood, you had enough money together to get a house, but then you want then you get divorced or you split up and you don't want to move back to an apartment or the jacks. If there's a room downstairs, daddy lived downstairs. Yeah, those resources this we we invested our lives in each other. Were gon We're gonna rod this bad boy out. Even if we ain't, we ain't together no more. If my dad wanted to be a

good black dad, you know what I mean. He was like a fat, furious Stiles. You know what I mean. He was like, my dad would be downstairs looking like Jerry the Damager, Right, he'd be downstairs. We're like Chinese medicine balls and like if you're the black leaders that always point at you like you did something wrong and

ship right somebody. So I go down my Dad's where my dad's learning how to make in sense, right, and he was like, frying fish can't learn how to make inceps at the same time, right, he's sprinkling incense in the fish. Right, He's like, I told Dad, Yo, I'm I'm like the town crier. I'm like, yo, did you know that crack can bond itself to the melanin? My dad's reading a book like How to Kill White People, Volume two or so? Ship right, he was. My dad puts his book down, not as good as the first

one book slap Audible took it down. But it's slap though. You know what I'm saying, Kyrie posting it you know what sitting there. So my dad takes his like prison like burning glasses off, right, and he goes, excuse me. And when when my dad said excuse me, he knew I said something that blew his mind. To my dad was ultra black. You know what I'm saying, Like my dad, my dad, no one was gonna let him in a nation. Well he was too fat to be the nation, right

but like you know what I'm saying. But like he was like, but my dad was like what what he's like? This teacher just taught me melanan bonds itself tis there agents and melanin. And my dad said, now, when my and my dad took like this, he boys put his his three fingers together and he would talk like wait, wait, no, no, no, break this down to me. And I was like yeah, And my dad said, I gotta I gotta make some calls. And I don't see people listening things. I'm lying? Did

my dad when he heard this? Because my dad was a part of all these African groups, you know what I mean, like like all this ship. So my dad called his friend Wadatta and he was our local roster shop on the guy. He's like, brother, brother, but what are you doing right now? He's like He's like, I'm and and what Donna was one of them like Roster's don't like love being black with love white women even more, you know what I'm saying. So he was sitting there

and he's and he put on speaker phone. He's like, hey, tell what Donna? What he said I said? And I'm like, way far, like thirty feet away. I'm like, he's like, greetings, now tell me this information. I'm like, uh, crack can attach itself to melanin and that's why the drug problem is so widespread in the black community. And he's like, ah, y, interesting, what's about marijuana? And she I said, she didn't talk about that. Well, caught me back when it sh don't

talk about weed. Then I went back to class and I was like, yeah, I can ask a question for I'm first, I'm I used to sit in the back like a loser, right, I was in the front. I needed to know more. I was like, hey, I was wondering, does weed attach itself to other drugs? And she said, that's a very good question. It there are certain other properties. Now they're looking at cocaine, but there are things like like things that are related to cocaine. Yes, but they

have not found it yet. Attached yourself to marijuana, but the properties of melanin. The guy she had been talking about said more than likely it should be able to put them to certain narcotics. So but just going with the crack cocaine, it just fucked our all minds up and for and the the professor was talking about like like how long it takes for like how long it usually takes for cocaine to get out of your system?

You know, just generally just out of your system. You know what I mean and what the detrimental effects are. But what happens when it bonds to your system is crazy. That's why it's funny when you see black people like it. It takes us much longer. But then she had explained that the melanin also helps create some sort of barrier, so it doesn't really it in some kind of way,

it bonds it to you, but it doesn't. It's almost like me put sunscreen on, you know what I mean, like like me, okay, you know, like the sun penetrates. Oh sorry, I didn't know, Bri, I didn't know. There's just serious way the sun burns me. And I'm not proud of I'm sorry that always Wesley number five when the darkness charted, you know, it likes to look I can have some piece of bacon over there. Even tone Bell get sitting down there avoiding you're standing underneath the tree.

You know what I mean, that's what I like. You like saying you just got that, you got that handsome civil rights face. You know what I'm saying, like you you look man. I didn't love the tone Bell comparisons either, So you know I think I think, hey, we're all doing our best with what we got. You know, this is this is the face. I'm stuck with you. You Tony, you should make a singing group. You know. I'd love a good eye scar, but I'm a coward, so so here I am. You know, I don't think he would do.

I don't think that's enough. Okay, I got you. I need something more than I need something dramatic to happen to me. Yeah, you need like a bad you need a bad eye. Oh I need Oh I need a heavy d You're big. Hell, you're a big hel like I mean, lens and fat would still get so Actually, legs and fat probably get more. I mean your wife, your wife to listen to this podcast, right, and she doesn't.

But but I want to be clear with anybody who does, I'm not I'm not gonna be accused of adultery because because seems on the episode, I'm just saying I saw you in Ashley Madison. You know what I mean, I don't know what version of a world you've imagined where you show up. And then I go, no, my wife, don't listen. Go ahead, Cassinem, tell everyone how I cheat on her. I was wondering why you've been backing on the road, you know what I mean, Tell tell the

world how I'm constantly eating out strange. That's that's what you would be doing. Yeah, I think so that's you know, that's how you know I'm not cheating that. That's where my mind goes. I'm like, well, I gotta eat these ladies out. And I was due. I was mesmerized by you. Dog eyes were twinkling. But also because you're a hot comic. You're like hot, like most comics are ugly. They look like they should be on Game of Throne. And then you listen, then you got all buff for the boys.

Come on, I assure you, it's back to normal, fellas. Anyway, we we could not have gone longer past the break than we already have. Uh, we are going to take a break we'll be back with more cousin Bentley and more. My mama told me, I don't even who say what blood oh creep. We are back talking about cocaine bonding to melanin. Yeah yeah, also a lot of heavy d

yeah stuff. There's a lot of ship going on. The theory is that that cocaine and melanin have the potential to bond, and subsequently that is the the reason why our crackheads are so pronounced is because of the possibility that this crack is I guess lingering in the system longer than than it would be for the white counterparts. Is that all? Yeah, I don't believe this one. You're not bought in at all. But it doesn't it doesn't

make any sense to me. Like that ship goes into your lungs and into your brain, What does that have to do with the melanin of your skin? Like, like what is that? Like you can't you can't even take I mean, I guess acid you can take through your skin, but like, it just doesn't It seems two very separate functions too. Well yeah, okay, okay, And I looked up at a few articles, right, and there's a thing called bes Benzo benz Oil, like Benzo, like ben Zo benz Oil.

Believe in yourself. You know you know what brother brother sounded out you. You'll nail it. I'm sure that you know. I had a jump started my lips. I'm like man, so like man, I can't read like this. Listen, you took a big swing. I don't say boy, You'll tell you when I do research. I do not say the chemicals because I don't know how to say. And you started off by being like it's a chemical called and I was like, good luck, nigga, and and you still got a chance if I just believe all y'all. Listen.

I went to a state college, and I don't sucking like a commuter state called don't suck me all right. I was an art major too, so I'm not dumb as fun. Right, it's a I'll spell it uh B E N Z O Y L E C G O n I N E mm hmm. Yeah, that's the first name. So saying these two elements are in melanin and in cocaine, right, and possibly other drugs, but let's say cocaine. So when it bonds together, it's like a link. It's like a Cuban link. It's like, you know what I mean, it's

a it's a break class. First aunds the cuban link, right, so it's sitting there like nothing stronger than cocaine and melan the links, right, so it bonds together. And so the more melanin you have, and I guess the more pigmented you are. It's and also also the quality party like learning it because the quality two of the cocaine the uses together. And it's hard because as of what our wider brothers they don't have it, so it's easier for them to get off it. So it's just it's

a on it. It's like it's like basically it's like it's it's just like me like it's like when you make a chailing fence. As she was explaining, you know what I'm saying, so and so, but it but what happens is if with more time, with more times, the guy was explaining, the teacher explaining, it takes it will just take for it to say to how would I

say to Erode? You know what I mean? And and also they also said that I learned in the class it's about the health of the person who's ingesting to cocaine, so meaning like there's other there's other things involved, you know what I mean. I love that you you clearly have done some research, or at least have gathered some research from from what this professor told you. Boy is not on board, and so I did my own research. I think maybe this will be a good marrying of

the two conversations and potentially clarifying. Maybe you will change your mind, Maybe Bore you'll change his mind. Maybe we'll both or well all of us will walk away as ignorant as we were when we started this. I love that I need you on my side because me and his friendship is at risk right now. You know what I'm saying, I don't why I want you to still be friends, even if it means, uh, you disagree about

where crackheads come from. You know, what you're referring to is something that in the science world is called melanin binding. That's a real It is a real thing that you're describing of melanin binding. It basically means that drug distribution and retention and pigmented ocular tissues, thereby affecting drug response,

duration of activity, and toxicity. So basically that like it has the ability to bind to melanin, not necessarily at least in this description in skin, but specifically in like the ocular tissues and inher and then subsequently it makes the retention of said like drugs lasts longer and also potentially leads to toxicity because of how long it holds onto the drug that it basically be will poison that space faster because of it holding onto the drug more.

If that makes sense. It makes sense. It's also too like when you learn it and I worked, I I worked a lot as a case manager or a social work as assistant, So you work with people who are you know, in risk right, and so i'd work in like you know, I worked at walden House, which is a drug rehab center and UH in San Francisco, and I've worked at I've worked at all like a lot of major in Salvation Army, I worked for ECS, all of stuff, and so I would just after learning that

and just being a young person working as a provider, it just blew my mind because I when I would work at a when I worked at walden House, I noticed I would see black people come in right for like a detox, and it would just take them so much longer. And when I would go to NA meetings, right, and I'll just like sit there and watch, you know, I would tell people's testimonials and I would just see

somebody black people. Now this has nothing to do until with the signs, But when I list that people's testimonials about how hard it was for them to detach themselves from drugs, a lot of them feel like I counted. Not there's a list, but I always would make notice of people talking about how hard they felt it was too, just the craving, you know what I mean, or how high they're high was. And I noticed that darker people they had they just had. They would just talk about,

you know, good black dope things. When they get off dope and they find Jesus, they'll tell you some story like, man, I was high, I was, I was, I was at a I got, I was had for four days. Oh just listen to Earth when in fire, you know, right, And then you would listen to white people and it would just seem like it was like they just it was as long as a music festival, you know what

I mean. It was just like oh yeah, So I think what is worth clarifying inside of this is that, at least based off of the research that I found. There aren't a lot of studies that I saw, And granted I didn't finish reading a lot of these motherfucker's because there's eighty five pages for very dense science talk. But they largely deal with melanin retention in hair, follicles and in pupils, so they're not necessarily saying that that same retention is affecting people of different races or people

of different like, uh skin tones. Right. That doesn't mean that it isn't happening, but it is saying that like a lot of the studies are not specifically being like, yo, this is a racial issue as much as they're saying a motherfucker with black hair is more likely to have crack in their hair longer than a person with with blonde hair. So we uh so there was not there having been a lot of studies about the effects of

cocaine all white people. I wonder why, Okay, I can tell by your intonation that uh that you you're being

a hotep now and I'm listening. I'm a gotep. Got the information, you know, motherfucking complain crack master flex you Now, I will say, in some ways, I do agree that like, you know whatever, even if we we sort of like are are being generous in this, there there is a real potential benefit in not clarifying this issue for everybody, right that, like to tell a bunch of black people that drugs and specifically I know we're talking about cracking

cocaine inside of this, but these studies are not saying it's strictly cracking cocaine. There are other like prescribed medications, all kinds of medications that are retained inside the pupils and in hair follicles, which means there's also a possibility, if this information is true, that black skin is retaining it more than than it's counterparts, that they are needing to prescribe medications differently to black people than they have

been in the past. That like this egal Ryan everybody gets the same thing whatever whatever isn't probably real and also would then open a bunch of people up for malpractices and misbehaviors that aren't being addressed because you're just assigning black people the same ship as white people, I mean partially though. Retention is not the same as intoxication, right, No, it is, so if it's staying in your system longer.

What does that have to do with like the length of time intoxicated or like it just sounds like it's like, uh, you know what I mean, Like some people have have weed in their system longer, Like does that lead to Like to me, it doesn't seem like that would lead to like higher levels of addiction. No. I think what they're saying is that it it does, it does control more how it processes through your body. So like they're there.

I think the suggestion at least is that people with the darker melanated hair or pupils will likely have less of the dry rug in their system over a longer period of time, because what they're saying is like the melanin holds a bunch of it but doesn't and then releases it slowly over a longer period as opposed to sort of like this instantaneous release that you would see

in white people who do the drug. And it would make sense, David, because they ever seen old black dolphins, you know what I mean, Like you take a long time to funk our shut up? You know that's yeah, But they do seem like it's like it's like that guy from the Lord of the rings with the ring where it gives them on naturally long life. I don't, I don't. I don't speak nerd nigger. You know what I mean. I'm not here, fucking you know what I mean. I don't know all that Blint Cell talking about. I'm

not I'm not hearing on the streets. You know, I don't know. Listen, I'm happy that didn't happen to me. That wasting it was really, you know what I'm saying, God, you know here, you know you bucks? You know who you buck? You know what I mean, What the funk? That's never happened to me. Nobody's I'm trying to keep you. But we seem black though, we seem black though things we see when they get all how they all they look, man, you know what I'm saying, They look bad at me.

Take a long time, a long time. It's like it's like it's like when you know when like you know, black is the only thing that makes you crack. Yeah, yeah, that in white women. I think they're both white. They're both Again, you're not gonna get me in that trap.

But I think I think one of the things that it did make me think about as as I was sort of thinking about the possibility this is a hidden secret right that in a world where it does sort of it is retained in Melanin similar to what's being described.

What it makes me think of is how untrusting that would make me feel of a white doctor now prescribing me medication, because it's not just a question of like, oh are you practicing for for understanding my body, but it's also you have to have a sensitivity to to my race, to my skin tone, to all these things that I just don't know that I could trust a white doctor to have, right like I know they cannot.

You you can train yourself to not hate black people, but to know the differences between my version of black versus casteems versus bories is a much messier ask for a a non Melanii native person, you know what I mean. And you can also see in the writing and of all the journals have been written about melan and it's, you know, I guess, in his relationship with you know, with drugs, A lot of them have been you know, it's it's been a lot of black people writing about it,

you know what I mean. So, like, I think there is something there and and if from working in this field. I've talked to different people working Black people who work in rehabilitation about this idea of like, you know about the effects of cocaine on like melanated people, you know,

but you know the hair and skin and everything. And I think on a guttural level, it does feel like many of them, I think many of them could say I can agree there is there has to be some sort of relationship because well, there's one drug counselor and men told me and this one I went to this one workshop about the drug one workshop maybe just chopping it up, and he just felt like beyond science just

about his observations. He just had seen so many black people have come back to drugs, and also too, it's just the fact of like the longer someone stayed out off drugs, the chances of the lower. But if people were like just came back the you months of being all drugs, it just after a while, it just became a part of life. And I asked him, like, do you think it's like more people who are more melanated? What do you who do you see? Do you see more darkstan people? Do you see more people this type

of hair type? You see it, and lots of agree. They get started seeing get darker people. He's like those darkies who love smoking. I can't get enough of it. And because Sin was like, yeah, yeah, that's what I learned. Yeah, yeah, you know, you know drugs is bad when the in the in the in the hood, when they started making flavored cocaine. You know what I'm saying, Well, I do think I want to make sure that we're being responsible

about this. I think that that while while I am always happy to entertain the argument right that this is this is possibly true, I think it would be unfair not to mention that so much of what you're also

describing is rooted in culture. It's rooted in resources and and sort of like these outside influences that have nothing to do with the lingering crack in our system and more to do with like, if you ain't got no money, and you ain't got no ship, and you can't really get your life together, crack is always gonna seem much more delicious than when you can you can escape. I don't like, I ain't never had it. It might be yummy, I don't know, I never had it, but the fact

when I found out they made in New York. They got different flavor crack, you know what I mean, Like strawberry cocaine. I'm telling you, man, we innovate, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty sure we can we really pretty soon it's gonna be like red velvet cocaine. You know what I'm saying. Well, boy, I I do want to hear your thoughts on this, because you we weirdly on pause with Sam Jay and you'll remember this conversation.

I think you did an episode where you got into a very lengthy argument with Sam about the possibility that once a black person does crack, they are eventually a crackhead. There is no way for us to do crack once without becoming crackheads. And you were very adamant against that. You you said no, as a as a man who's done it, I can tell you can come back. Yeah, damn, We're just gonna my mom listening to this. I'm sorry. All right, Well cut, you did it, you like you

like a blackmail Oprah. You did it once and look your life got better though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like it wasn't even Yeah, I mean, I just don't. I also, if it's how come there's not crack problems in other parts of the world like that, Like, I don't know any after crackhead like that bad I don't know about I'm freaking crackheads. I mean, you know what I mean. But I'm pretty sure to go that's the darkest those are,

that's the most melanie. That's where it started. Yeah, i'd say that that's an India, but they're not going to admit it. So crack to your roots, you know what I mean. I think you like revolutionary for crack. You know what I mean? We started this monk. I just I don't I don't know, man, I I yeah, I smoke crack. I didn't even particularly like it, like eating at a balanced meal. Yeah, well it wasn't the strawberry I just got. I got diet because like plane, this

is nasty. Yeah, you have smart, you had organic cracky. I put some hot sauce on it. Uh no, man, crack like no, and I'm dark as fuck. The guy in the whole situation that I was in leading me to do it was a friend had been doing it, and he was a crackhead, and he is is light as lightston. We're already upside down. M Well, I will say that that while I am very light, While I am very light, I do possess melanin whereas I think the suggestion would be the unmelanated people versus melanated and

and it gets more extreme as you go along. Not necessarily that no light skinned person can't be a crackhead. We we can be whatever we want to be, is what I've always said. Yeah, everybody knows that. Now now you want to be crackheads, you're taking out from us too. I think it looks pretty cool, and I want to see what y'all are up to. Crackhead light but his dick is dark, you know what I mean? Come on?

Who I like that more? You really aren't being this contrary, like you really don't think like I just man, I think the I think the ru. I just have known so many drug addicts of lots of races, and I think drug addiction is like so many factors outside of just black people are crackheads just because we're black. That's insane. When you put it that way, it does sound insane. Yeah, it sounds stupid as fun. What are you talking about? There was the heroin epidemics before that that ran through

the black community. Is so is it the same for Heroin? Like I don't, I I don't. I don't think it's racial based. I think it's all situation. So you think you think the external factors are much more of a a influence than anything that could be happening in our chemistry, way way, way more and causine. I'm just gonna play

moderator at this point. You're you look you look as if you have an argument back, because I'd love to hear me so angry that's want to punch my fist in It's like scream, whoa, You're only hurting yourself, crackhead, So calm down, and uh you literally debate real liberal calling people ship right now? You know what I'm saying. It's all he's Yeah, he's doing what he does to do best. What's the Darkey's fight back here? You don't

know my porn searches? Well you do now, Yeah, it's my born hub looking for Darkey's fighting Darkey's wrestle until it changes. I'm gonna rescue you like I'm gonna power bomb in the black off. Okay here, here's what I'm

thinking about this. Okay, being the fact that they found a bonding agent and even though there is a number of articles that suggest there is the likelihood of this right and also looking at how there's so many articles have talked about how the government, but the government has manipulated crack, and I understanding one guy I saw talked about like how you could probably that that bonding agent within, like you know, they manipulate drugs for certain you know,

for certain people, so you know, to make more money whatever. Why is it impossible things that they would do that manipulate that's so black people could become addicted to crack, you know what I mean? There could be uplip an agenda breathen you know what I'm saying. I think crack

was made. I don't think that it was. I think it was given to the black community because of external factors could lead to drug I don't think it was like I don't think they literally were like this is this is gonna get those blacks, Like there wasn't a science. You don't, we don't you don't subscribe to the Ronald Reagan sitting in a lab conspiracy. Everything but the lab, chemicals,

everything but everything but the lab Ronald did. But Ronald wasn't a part of the sort of mixing of it, David, David, it's really brother. You're gonna be on here on al Gore's Internet, sitting here, and that's your problem right there. You believe al Gore made the Internet. Spike Lee, I know Spike Lee made the Internet. You really know? Because I don't want to twisted. I think it was conspiratorial. I do believe that. I just don't. I don't think

that they were like melanin. Okay, so then we take the melanin. You know what we do. We take this cocaine, We put a little baking powder in there, and then they'll go. Now, I'm saying they discovered that later, Like let's say there's a phone. They discovered that that after they gave it to black people. Then they retroacted. Oh that it's like a Popbya's chickens switch. You know what I'm saying that, you know it just like that's that's more. Yeah,

I will say that that. I always have trouble with conspiracies that that give the government too much credit in terms of their no how and and skill set, and I it's much easier to believe that like, oh they did some ship and accidentally killed some people. They were like, hey, I don't want to keep killing some people. And they're like, yeah, yeah, that's the same. That's what I'm saying. I could kill some more people. That's what I'm saying. This one is

just too it feels too specific to me. You sounds sad when you say that. Bro. I know, you know, I want to believe. I want to believe the bro I'm getting not tying this ship tied his podcast. You're sitting here, Lacey, trying to give his light skin truth. You sit up here kind of like a black repub kid, wear your shirt button all high. And I got to be up. I got invited on this bullshit as podcast kind of dirty as. I don't ei this ship. You see the funk I'm living. I don't even be doing

this ship. You do you do right now? You need this? Yeah? Yeah, you're in it right now about cocaine. So let me let me ask you this because because I want to be clear again, none of the articles that I read, and even though there were a bunch of articles that did attempt to briefly address the racial element of it all, but a lot of them sort of like said very specifically that race sort of was a neutral agent in

all of this, that it wasn't. They did not believe that statistically they could prove that black people were more addicted to cocaine or cocaine held on longer than than white people. That said, do you feel like this is just like what are we meant to do with this news? Becauseine, I truly like, is this a full thing for you? Is this a thing where you're like, niggas are gonna die? And that just is what it is? Like, what do

you what can we do with this? Okay? So that's I'm glad you said it, Langston, right what I'm saying. But if nothing, I just want to help the community. That's see it, I see I can see by yeah. Man, God damn it. Boy. It's like, man, hey, brother, your beer don't even connect. I know you don't believe in what I'm saying. You can't connect. You can't connected together. Brother. You know what I'm saying, it's connecting that right, he got it? Six summers. Here's what I'm talking about because

I've worked as a provider. It's like when we talk to people, especially in the black holest of hells, people drug rehab. The idea is like this the way you can work from the top down to all the way down to like the ground floor. The people who are

like on the front lines. Is that it seems it would thinks like who is the you know, when you look at all you see there's so many there are there are tons of black people right on addictive drugs, right and when you look at like and trying to improve our communities, we have a lot of people are making in res choices maney of their drugs. Right. So looking at the fact of that when I talked to some black people about this is like there is a

there's a growing number of black people. A last I talked to who would like to start focusing have a more I'll have a stronger focus on talking to black people about what it is about? Why is it that we have a high rate recidivism or we have a high rate of entry into drug programs? And what is it about? Why is it we were able to why is it we're having a hard time shaking this? And with that, some people have told me is something that they can't feel like they can talk about this with

the you know, the masses. Uh, you know what I'm saying, and and so it has to be more further research because there's just a lack of understanding. But as also too, is that they need more black people that have that have to be talking about this because it's sin strength

of numbers. So you understanding to make this concern, you know, I have to make this to make the argument to get more to have more discussion about it, because it's just too consistent if it was like one or two articles every ten years or something like that, but it's something that many people could It's it's every year there's

an article, more, multiple articles talking about this. So if I'm if I'm hearing you correctly, I think it sounds like you would love for this to to get to the point where action has to be taken because this is too large of a concern, whereas right now we don't even know to have the conversation and therefore are

not the conversation is not being had. Yeah, because it's like we're we're hitting our head, we're hitting out against the wall all the time, and when you're on the front lines, you're seeing all these black people and it's just increasing numbers. Dude, I live in San Francisco when is like it's like twenty black people here and votine on drugs, you know what I'm saying. And it's like I'm trying of seeing the same flotin when the fun

is on drugs and a hard time. So there has to be discussion also to on a on a gutter level, black crack teas are annoying. I'm tired of seeing this ship, dog, you know what I'm saying. We're in the same Jordan threes running around dancing, picking a feet, going crazy, making white people happy, doing all the types of ship. We need to get these black people on drugs and get

these white people on drugs. And I was saying, see, that's the first thing I agreed with all you drug dealers listen to this podcast, So drugs the white people, dog and saying get these future and I ain't playing. Here's what I'll tell you. I don't know how you knew who are sponsors were this episode, but it is drug dealer selling the white people, that is. But honestly, they're just see because we're running, we're running. I mean, it's just the fact that like when I talked to

providers and I talked to drug counsels Black. It's just the fact that there it is plausible to think there has to be something biological now why, you know, especially with you know, with the when when it was discovered, and because once again it's just that you hear the testimony was of Basteran Americans on drugs, and it's just the fact that they it's they just can't understand how they can't shake it, you know what I mean? And if and if tested about the effect is actually a

pretty compelling argument. Well, here's what I'll say. I was having, ah, I was having a conversation with a cousin this past weekend who works in sort of like medical health, specifically in helping people kick their drug habits, or at least figure out ways to find solutions inside of those drug habits, be that giving them a clean equipment and and paraphernalia for drugs, or even giving them a small, manageable enough

dose of the drug that they're doing. And one of the things that it's sort of ultimately landed on was the argument that in truth, we should be legalizing all of these things in part because people are more likely to do a manageable amount of the drug if it's legal and streets safe and clean, as opposed to if it's like, oh, I gotta do a fuck ton right now, because I don't know when I'm gonna get my hands

on this ship again. If this is like something I have to work hard for to access, then I'm gonna do too much of it and likely hurt myself. Whereas if you just make the ship legal, motherfucker's are gonna do the exact melanin amount that they need and avoid the overdoses, avoid sort of the crack heads ish behavior that you might see when it's illegal. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we need to put cracking out there. I don't know. I don't want to crack dispensary, you

know what I mean. Yeah, Man, I don't want to see Jim. I don't want to see Jim Jones from dip set having his own kind of crack, you know what I mean. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, hey, yo, I'm not here. You know. I think you're gonna see much much more functional crackheads than what we've seen. No, I think it's not It's not just gonna be a crackhead mowing your lawn it's gonna be a crackhead with a lawn mowing business, and that I don't think that

they're different. So they becoming like man C. J. Walker, like yeah, like samous and they're gonna name the super Silker. I fully and I can fully see it. I see a crackhead being like I invented the hot comb and we're like, hey, man, we already did that. He's like, nah, I did it again. You know, you know what. They have image Awards and at least honor like a black person doing something really major, and like, yeah, I I'm John Cheetle and today we're honoring Courtney Bang bang Johnson. Yeah,

he revolutionized crack fives Like, yeah, I don't. I think you guys are not believing in the in the potential of the humans were from. Alright, alright, this is a crazy episode. You're talking about legal crack right now, that's happening. I'm thinking, brother, alright, already, we all we all on some form of Hollywood. I'm on the lowest end. Already, gotta already gotta pitch ready Crack to the Future. Crack

to the Future. All right, it's a catchy title. Tell me the characters alright, alright, alright, alright, all right, I'm saying I'm already you know, you know, even the pitch meetings next to the water, you know, and you're like, so alright, check it right, It's like the wire meets back to the future. Right, you know what I'm saying. Marty McFly played by DC young Fly. You know what I'm saying, he'd come up with some old niggas, right, old old nigga, old drug nigger, right, comes up with

this new form of crack. It's a new kind of crack that can propel, that lengthens your life, you know what I'm saying, right right, like, and it's and it's probably some kind of crack that can right. I figured like, this is you know what I'm saying. I don't like, man, man, I don't I hate that I have to be the one to say this crack. He's bad. It's so so bad. I don't think any of the arguments for legalization are suggesting that it isn't bad. You just said, smoke crack

and start a business. It's like, it's not. It's not a saying it's not I'm saying, if you smoke crack, you can still start a business. I think that's closer to to my vision for the America we live in. How we got to get on a marketing campaign to make sure that you know, like crack his whack. You know what I'm saying. We gotta get them crackings. We gotta get the crack his Whack shirt to back out. You know what I'm saying, remember them. Everybody knows crack.

This is crazy what's happening. But see, I think you're missing it. I think it's it's crack is whack. If it's illegal, let's make it legal so it can be fun again. That should all be on the ship business. Wait, let's make let's make crack fun again. Who are we gonna get Supreme behind it or something? When we got to we're gonna do like a two from one. So we're doing it. We're gonna do a prat Friday ideals. I listen, it sounds like you're on the marketing team already.

I I think there are there's a lot of potential for drug legalization that that grey doesn't see. It can't be big l it can't be crack. We were talking about crack. We can't have Dad crack running around here. You know what I'm saying. And like other boy, you you've made it past the hump. If we're talking about crack, then let's let's open our hearts to what crack can be. You're a hero. I made it pass them God through the bushes of God. I'm standing to think about this. No,

this is no waiting. No wait, wait, open your mind, brother, Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Now, we always talk about black business. You know what I'm saying, revitalizing the community, investing in the community. And what's bigger. What's the biggest industry in the black community? Drugs? Hair care products? But I think both are correct. I don't know. Well, brother, let's put the crack in the hair care. You know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, you can only do

that if it's legal. You can only None of those businesses can be imagined until it's legal for everybody. I mean, I think you might be you, I think you really onto some of your legs. Then yeah, I have no doubt because seem I I know this, This is perfect logic. Yo, I'm about to do this. I'm about to be I'm not to figure to legalized crap I'm not to go on earn your leisure and trying to figure this out and like get like Dame dash forgot some angel investors

get maybe like the legalized crap. Because they legalized mushrooms, they legalize this some crack would in some kind of way that would probably on the chat on the on the that would be up there is there a way we can do this to legalize crack, like a like a healthier way of smoking crack. I believe in you, and I will vote in your favor if if you're on the docket, if if this ends up being the

thing that you you champion. Basically I'm gonna be herschel Walker meets marian Berry, right, Hey, that's your problem, herschel Berry out here. They don't trust me in hotel rooms. But I'll just blame it on CTV, you know what I mean it well, because same bed. I think I think we've we covered this. I I bory. I'm not sure if you feel as satisfied as you would like. You seem disappointed with the way that this is the crack by smoke and he's still smoker. That's why he

lived to Denver. You know. Stuff it heavy d heavy Denver. I didn't want this to end with us being like, let's legalize crack. Well, I don't think it's a let's U or us as much as it is. Me and half of Cassine are now playing this game, and you're you're a hard not on it. So so it's up for grabs. Listeners at home. If whoever seems more reasonable to you, you go with it. I don't know, we're not. It's not for us to decide. We're not gonna besides Cassine,

we're not gonna campaign for it either way. No, no, no, no, he mean Christmas is coming up, you know what I mean? Get get that, Get your lady that fine crack rocks that you've been eyeballing outside the Macy's window. Don't get her debtil far back. No, there's a gentleman in the Macy's bathroom if you knock a certain way, and it'll get you exactly what your lady means the same because you tell the people at home where where they can

find you on? What cool ship you have going? Yeah? Okay, so yeah you can find me on a social media Casine Bentley all right as K S E M B E N T l E. Y can also find White Slavery on podcasts on all your streaming devices and whatnot. And yeah, hit me on that cash shop. You know what I'm saying. You know you never hear that ship works. Hit me a Cassine Bentley on the cash app, Brather,

I'm selling crack mail. You know what I'm saying. All right, Well, follow Cassine and then hit him on that cash app because he's selling crack. And Bori, where can they find you? The sandwiches? Cool guy joke? He in on Instagram December in Las Vegas. I'm gonna be at the Jimmy Kimmel Comedy. He'd be so lucky to so crack at the Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, some flap legs I stole from the buffet that you only sounds so sad when you talk about your dates.

I don't know what I'm like that Are you out here? Dude? I am out here? No, I think he I think there's only certain dates where he's outsid. And I think that Vegas one always said some a very specific way. But but I want to be in here and I can't be out here anymore. Please go follow Bori and and go see him at the Jimmy Kimmel uh. And there's always you can follow me at Langston Kerman. Now,

I'd love to hear from you. And if you have your own conspiracy theories, your own drops, if you have a solution for our struggling black crackheads, please send those theories to my mama pot at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. And that's about it, by bitch and I playing Noogle because of the broad babies my crop chips in your hands, Uncoala bears are racist. The olschool player for ost the money r. She's in many turnkey stuff. I can't tell me