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My whole sense of style in high school is derived on a short that makes sense, Yeah, because because sometimes Cam does some stuff where you're like, remember when he was wearing like those big old lady earrings, like the giant ones. That seems like that could be because you got hit hard.
That's to come on, brokey, And I get what you're saying that there were there was a point where you see him dressed and you'd be like, God, damn, this nigga is fly. He looking good. I want to look like Cam Newton, And then the next day he puts on some ship where you're like, that would have been a huge mistake if I would have started to shape my closet based off of this very cartoonishly dressed man.
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We're so happy you're here. And frankly, you came to us with a conspiracy theory that Bory we talked about. I don't think either of us were very verse.
Then, not at all, not at all.
Yeah, it wasn't one that we were super aware of. I think I had heard the words, you know what I mean, like I had heard it talked about before, but I had never done any version of a deep dive in so this is really exciting. But you said, my mama told me the Willie Lynch letter is real.
Indeed, Yes, I grew up in a very black area and so we would talk about it all the time.
And when I went to a.
Black college and we were talking all the time about it all the time with confidence. Little did we know it's believed to actually not be real little yeah, believe by who a lot of research of there's a lot of research that says that some of the words using the letter like actually didn't exist at the time that the letter says that it's from.
And yeah, it's how they get you every time.
All these fact checkers wanting words to be the same since seventeen whatever the fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah, So before we deep dive into all of this, I guess let's begin right at the start. It tak us through what this Willie Lynch letter is. Let's make sure that our listeners are as versed as you are in terms of what it is, what it represents, and where it comes from for you.
Yeah, So, Willie Lunch Letter is a letter that black people will love to cite when we're acting up and it says, you know, because they say that some slave owner taught American slave owners about how to control black people without lynching them, and that was like to separate us based on skin color and age and all sorts
of other stuff. But the letter appeared for the first time to anyone's knowledge in the nineteen seventies, and no one can really find like the true origin of this letter that's from this slave owner Willy Lynch.
Yeah, so a slave owner named Willie Lynch, apparently in Virginia in seventeen twelve. He's a British slave owner in the West Indies. Apparently like goes in front of a colony on the James on the bank of the James River in seventeen twelve and gives this speech where he explains to all the other slave owners like, Hey, I know y'all have been having all kinds of issues with your slaves. They keep on running away and not listening to you and sucking off your your wives and shit
sucking their titties. They suck your wives titties all the time. It's terrible.
I don't know.
No, I'm not good man.
What do you want to sound like?
You got forty Yeah he started he started as a joking that it got like, you know.
You're freaky, you're freaking freaky. Yeah about talk about listen what else was doing? Listen if y'all read a different letter than me. Just say that, Just say you ain't read the same letter as me. Don't try to embarrass me, Just say, hey, our letters might have been a little different.
I cannot but in in this supposed speech, he explains to all of them, hey, despite the problems that you're having, I have insight on how to make it so that your slaves never rebel so that you get the best out of your your specifically black slaves, and then explains in detail, supposedly how to how to fix all the problems with the slaves.
Yeah.
And the funny thing is we use it now a lot people will throw it out and be like, see, this is what Willy Lynch, that's what he wanted, this Willie Lynch figure.
Right. Well, let me ask you this, when you first heard this, because you said you you grew up in a place where it sounds like they were telling you, Yeah, this is a real thing. When you first heard it, were you bought in? Did you believe in the Willie Lynch Lynch letter.
Old white men from the past being crazy and saying crazy shit AE hundred.
It's not hard to believe.
It's easy to believe any conspiracy theory around a white man from the past doing some crazy shit.
You should summarize. That's a piece of statement for this entire program.
That didn't take much.
It doesn't take much.
Yeah, it doesn't feel like, oh man, how where'd you come up with this? This feels almost magical what you're suggesting, a white man trying to control other people?
Yeah.
Yeah, And even if it is fake, I know a white man fake that shit.
That's that's where I propose we start with this. Okay, tell me who made it, if it was if it wasn't fake, what is the benefit of faking this? It's something more diabolical than I think I could wrap my head around. But I think, you know, as a group effort, we could really get to get Because that's that's the question, right, if it's been debunked, the question is who put this out and why?
Mmmmmm, Well, here's what Here's what I'll say is that for me, the Willie Lynch letter feels like it's meant to represent a bit of an allegory in the way that like, we read like Bible stories and we aren't necessarily supposed to believe that Goliath was like this giant and David, you know, hit him with a sling shot, whatever the fuck.
It was just a big factor.
It was just the biggest man in town. And frankly, Elias couldn't fight for shit. But no, I think it's meant to be an allegory, like you know that, like, hey, straighten up, do try not to create these sort of like in fights and negative relationships inside of our community. And so I had always interpreted it, or at least in my brief understanding of it, i'd interpreted it as a black invention meant to teach black children and black people to be the better version of themselves because of
the sinister work that white people are doing. But I'm deeply fascinated with what y'all are suggesting of this actually being a white invention, and I'd love to hear more about that.
I mean, what you're saying makes the most sense, truly, But like the citiful part of me is always like this is so like crafty and sinister in.
A way that say it's sneaky weak. Yeah, we say we call them blank eaters.
Well one of us calls them that. The other ones never said that out loud before.
But yeah, yeah, I definitely feel like it's it's it could go either way, But it just feels it's a strange thing for a black person to craft, in my opinion, because then, like you would they get into the minds of like a Willy Lich.
But also, the more I say it, Willy Lynch sounds like an invention of a black person.
Even that name, that is the initial thing that I felt when it came to the table. That does not sound like a like if you make me draw Willy Lynch on a piece of paper, it does not look like a bridge man.
From the West Indies. Get the funk out of here.
Where's some type of work where you.
You mean Willy Lynch, the nigga that brought the Black Eyed Peas? Yeah, I know, Willie. You mean you mean Willy Lynch would be yelling at his wife. Nobody's saying nothing because it's crazy. Yeah, you know, we know Willy.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
Yeah.
The more we talk, I'm convinced it's a black black man.
Yeah, you know, yeah, that's fair because I think it's like the name is not good. It's like when you hear white people name fake rappers, you know what I mean, It's not even grounded somewhere in any of the truth.
No.
Yeah, it's like a little peat pop and it's like ice banana. Yeah, you know you hate us so much that you won't even do basic research to learn how to make fun of us.
Yeah, that's all that always does hurt, where it's like respect me enough to give me proper.
Really be That is my biggest issue with the way that white people make fun of us is like I really study y'all, you know what I mean, Like, I really put in the work to make sure that, like when I'm making fun of white people, I'm using all of the correct weaponry to make this an effective ass argument.
And how many eighties sitcoms I had to watch know that you look like Piercy Ally, Come on, don't do that to me.
Well, that's okay. We are fluent in whiteness.
Yeah, Like we literally know everything about them and they don't know when nothing anything.
It's it blows my mind when they don't notice.
I was explaining to a group of white people to yesterday who Birdman was, and it's like, come on, that's a major figure. That's a ship, that's not a that's not a fly by night ass dude, He's He's a big part of the community.
They love the big times.
Yeah, that's it. They love the fucking big time and they don't even know their name. That's crazy.
It's a few who do burden in I bet you even less. No many fresh by name.
That's nuts.
The black famous thing is real, man. There's some people who are black famous that white people do not.
They do not know who they are. Like shery Lee.
Rolph before she decided to sing when she won that Emmy. Yeah, she was at a Hollywood reporter roundtable about being black famous and how white people didn't recognize her, and half of the white people who were standing up giving a standing ovation had no idea who this older black lady was.
No, they didn't know how long it took me to learn her name and stop calling her d Yeah, they did not.
They're no fucking clue. But a bunch of black people near them stood up and they didn't want to be a yeah, yeah, she's right, she's right.
That works in our favorite like when you get them the clap for like something they wouldn't have, like they really didn't listen to any three six Mafia music even after they won that Grammy.
You know that's true.
Yeah, And that's like, I'm glad they still got their ship.
People shitting on them for shouting out George Cloney, but I thought that was pretty cool when they wanted to osk her and they were like, Yo, shout out to my man, George Cloney. You know, you know what it was. They had a fun ass time with him in the green room, and he had a fun ass time too, and he didn't expect that to become public knowledge. And they were like, nah, George, you was fucking around with us back there, and we we fucked with you.
Yeah.
Man, I went to a party and no, hey, hey, make sure you fight about it. Make sure you too wrestled back and forth.
Let's go.
No. I was gonna say, there are so many white people that black people secretly love. We don't talk about often, But George on that list, Selei on that whole controversy at the grammyes. We love Selene. That's our white aunt who's married to our black uncle. We love her, Like yes.
That's the amount of the amount of pride of an older version of me used to taking R Kelly writing a song with Selene Dion. I thought that was so fucking cool. I was like, yeah, Selene cool, she hang out with R. Kelly and now in retrospect, that's not cool, Selene.
You don't take the feeling away, don't take.
You're right, I should keep that, keep the feeling.
Beyond. Jesus.
I really liked it. I thought it was really cool. They made a great song together too. I don't know if y'all have heard it, but.
It's I don't want to know that it exists.
No, they have a song together and it's gorgeous. I swear it.
I want to see documentary about them meeting each other.
Meeting each other. I don't think Seleene Diona hung out with R.
Kelly Man, That's how it went in my head.
Yeah, you think that they are.
Then he grew up to Canada.
Oh you don't think she came to his turn.
She would still be there.
Yeah, you don't think that there was spider lets her fly like that and do his web and lets it go. Yeah.
I think that there were three little black girls roped up in the background while she was sending her ballad.
Who I understand bitch too.
But swallow? Have you ever been swallowed up? Have you gone through a time of swallowing where everything was overwhelmed me.
I'm reporting the news. If you cowards are afraid of that, well then I suggest you find a new podcast to enjoy. My god, so so roche. You are. You are a young young person. You are, You are here during this You are bought in. It sounds like, to some extent at least beat by these older people telling you that this is a real thing. How much are you sharing this with another audience? How much are you being like, Hey, y'all,
have y'all heard the good news? Can I tell you more about the Willie Lynch letter?
Of course, I feel like there was especially a college because I went to Howard and so at Howard, you're talking about slavery at the.
Club, at lunch out the yard before.
I threw it out many times as a way to have win the conversation, win the debate, until I realized, like somebody was like, girl, you know that's not real, right?
And I was like, oh, it's like when you find out like Steve Harvey's hair, was it real?
It just it takes away like your childhood and it makes you rethink everything.
Yeah. No, I was.
I was a firm believer in that airline and now now nothing had to take.
His picture off the wall.
You had a Steve high Tower picture on the wall.
Just like is what you could have his hair As an older man, I thought it was. Yeah, it was.
That was an aspirational hairline, like the lens. The way that it just sat like it defied gravity. It was it gave me hope.
It was for me, not even the precision of the hairline itself, but it was the frequency, or rather the lack of any evidence that it ever was out of place that made me excited. Where it was like, damn, my man, don't never get caught slipping once, like you never caught Steve slipping even for a second, And that should have been the biggest tell for all of us. It wasn't the the actual hairline. It was that like, oh,
he don't have one off day. There's never there's never even a moment where it's not exactly where it was before.
One hundred percent. And honestly, you know, after watching Kat Williams interview, he said a lot of things. Some of it was true, it was a lot, but the Steve Harvey think I knew was a fact, and so it gave a lot of credibility to everything else he said in.
My yah, I think that's true.
He said Steve was fake, and I was like, that's true.
So yeah, And I don't want to speak out of turn, boy, but I think we're firm believers in everything that Kat Williams put out into the world. I think I believe it, even in uh, even the things that I know to be outright lies. I believe in the the emotional truth of them in a way that I won't refute it. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? Argue with him? No, he's right, that man, that man was right.
He's right, and he's fast.
He read three thousand books at eight years old in his heart, and that's what matters.
Prove him wrong, is what I say, prove my mannron exactly so roche. You believe it. You are spreading this to others, and then somebody comes into your world and sort of pops this bubble and says it isn't real. How much of that have you then carried forth? Are you now a person? Sort of like when the Willie Lynch letter still gets brought up, because I imagine people in your life are still occasionally being like, you know, that's like the Willie Lynch letter or you know they
talked about that in the Willie Lynch Letter. How much of that are you going, actually, y'all wake up that shit ain't real? Or are you letting people continue to live under this sort of allegorical umbrella.
The last one, I don't believe in correcting black people.
I don't want to do it.
Okay, I don't want to debate it.
I'm not I don't want to have to prove it. I just keep believing this. This is my service to people. Is having this doing this episode?
Yeah it does. I think that was beautifully put. There's no reason to correct black people on some ship that like they feel that passionately about. You just got to kind of let that be. And to the cat Williams point, an emotional truth even if it isn't a literal.
One, and there's all this, like there's an article about it, like they were like, yeah, it's probably not true, but I mean there's a point there, right, and so like a lot of the stuff is valid, So why argue with your cousin about it?
Like get the peace, keep the peace, Bory, where before we go to break? Where do you fall in this? Are you a secret believer in the Willie Lynch letter. Are you do you believe it to have still have been written by a white person? What? What are you? What are you feeling right this second?
I believe if maybe the specificity of Willy Lynch is not if that is not real, I believe in the possibility of something like this, like the idea of someone giving maybe more sinister slave tactics to help owners with with difficult that to me, like the specificity is maybe, like, but that type of thing seems very realistic to me, that you know what I mean. So maybe it wasn't this one specific day, but yeah, I could see white people trading nasty tactics to keep the subjugate people.
Okay, that this is more about, uh, like.
A sharing of information in that way, right, because that's the idea of this, right, is that he did that that one time and then they were all like, oh wow, did you hear what Willie Lynch did? And they implemented all these ideas. So maybe not like I said, like, not that specific, but I think that idea. Yeah, I do believe in that.
I like that he.
Did like a ted talk to them, right, and they were like this this is the thing.
We gotta go spread the word.
And maybe if it wasn't one ted talk though it was like some nasty, nasty man found out ways you know what I mean.
Yeah, a nasty man man.
I was. It was weird when I said it. I thought if I said it more times, it would get me out of it.
Nasty put some clothes on, I told you, Yeah, nasty second cities, white titties. Yeah, I do.
Think I wish I did to say it so many times. I three was a lot. I know that.
I do think to that point. One of the things that does make me start to to if I were to be swayed towards this being a white conception, it does feel a little like proud that this man stood on the river bank and he addressed the the various slave owners who all gathered together, when in fact, if we're really talking about what this shit probably was, well, it was a drunk motherfucker at the bar being like y'all gonna get y'all slaves to hate each other or
whatever it was. And it's not this glamorous sort of like proud moment, but more just a sloppy alcoholic who then planted a seed for a bunch of other evil motherfuckers to go do some other shit.
That sounds about accurate.
Yeah, that feels good.
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Not at all no, Look, I'm a dog. He's as black as can be, and so are we. We are back discussing.
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I've been working on it. Can you tell that.
It's gonna be a part of my outro, my intro to that audio wherever I go?
All right, I'm trying to put you in a position.
Oh man, We've talked a little bit about this, the Willie Lynch of it all. One of the things that sort of becomes an important part of all of this.
Is that this.
Slave owner, William Lynch again was said to have given this speech in seventeen twelve, But there isn't a lot of evidence of the individual actually being a person or certainly like the individual is not traced anywhere specific there's William Lynch of Lynch Law, or is at least a person that is connected to the Lynch the terms of the Lynch Law in Lynching who was born in seventeen forty two and died in eighteen twenty who died or he was basically seventy seven to seventy eight years old,
according to Wikipedia, But there isn't a lot of evidence in his Wiikipedia or in his breakdown of him having given this speech as much as he is just famous for being a guy that they've connected.
To that, Yeah, there's a guy with the last named Lynch who was doing some shit.
But yeah, that's where it ends.
YEA.
Not a lot after that they just kind of go, yeah, William, that seems like a guy who probably did some wild shit. And there it is.
I mean to speak to the conspiracy theory, though, how important is it that this guy was real or was not? Mm hmm. That's a good question, like if we're taking the lessons from it that like like like does it matter? You know, I don't know.
I will say when I.
Maybe God didn't flood the earth for however long, but I still don't want to covet my neighbor's wife, Like does it need to be real?
That's a word.
I actually think that a lot of what's in the Willie Lynch letters, I think there is some relevance today. For sure, we do do a lot of things. The letter says that we do. There's all sorts of stuff. So whether it's it's true, maybe it's a fable maybe.
We could learn from.
And I do think it holds a lot of weight to its very applicable to what's going on right now.
And I will call them what the fucking boy complete No,
nothing about that, I will say to that point. One of the things that it reminds me of, and we've talked about this before Borio on the podcast, it reminds me of that supposed secret meeting that happened between all the record executives in the nineties or the late eighties, early nineties, whatever it was, where the supposed white record executives all get together and they decide that gangster rap is going to be the preferred music of choice so
that they can sort of like introduce larger rise is a violence and drug use in the black community. And I think that it's not we and we talked about it on the episode. It's not not true that like record executives made that choice. They just didn't make necessarily have like some big formal meeting where Sony sat down with Arista, sat down with whoever the fuck to make it happen.
The unconscious mind is a powerful tool, right, Like maybe these things weren't at the forefront, but it's like because they felt these things about these people, they it moved in that direction.
Right, Yeah, that's one hundred percent true. And I remember weirdly watching a documentary years ago. It was actually a documentary I used to teach with that was narrated by
Esther Role. You guys remember Estrole from Good Times. Esther Role was a part of this documentary where it was sort of talking about the specifically the propaganda around how much of our history in America is just rooted in white propaganda that like, basically in reconstruction, right, slavery ends and they have to suddenly employ black people, or at least in theory, black people have options to free themselves or be free and employ themselves and like live inside
of society, and white people aren't figuring out quickly enough how to make money off of that shit or how to take advantage of it. And one of the things that they talked about is that like they started introducing imagery relating to black people as a way of depressing our successes. That the image of a black man who loves watermelon and is lazy and all of that shit was just them trying to use propaganda to make it
so that we couldn't get jobs. That they were basically being like, oh, the black man is lazy and he don't do no work, So that's why you shouldn't employ him, because he's not really he actually really wishes he could just be a slave again, because with his free mind, he'll just be lazy and won't do nothing. And the watermelon became an image just because they wanted something that was shaped like our smiles, like big fucking watermelon smiles.
So they picked that as a way of selling it, and then that becomes our relationship to watermelon for another one hundred and fifty years or whatever it is.
So what you're saying is white people are really great at branding, and people are.
And they are.
And also the thing too about like black folks and our conspiracy theories is that a lot of them are really about helping us overcome issues.
Or deal with stuff.
I mean, we also had some stupid things floating around, but usually these kinds of like this Willie Lynch letter is an example of like black people saying, hey, like this is how we come together. The Tommy He'll Figure thing that was made up, like you know that he said that he didn't want to sell to black people. If anything, to me, that was black people being like
we need to invest in our own clothing brand. You know, I think that a lot of our conspiracy theories are actually meant to help us as opposed to harmus.
I like that that that has an optimism to it that that maybe no, yeah, it certainly isn't in my heart, but I didn't think about it that way, you know what I mean. Like I think when I heard the Tommy Hill figure thing, I was just like, damn, that
was real mean to Tommy Hunt. But but no, there is there is maybe an optimism to it where it's like, maybe this is just reminding black people that we don't have to invest our entire community into this brand, that even if he's not outwardly saying it, is not truly invested in the growth of the black people. Yeah, that's that's beautiful. I really like it.
I mean, I've al making that, but I.
Mean no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, we are not gonna correct you.
No what I would like to think, that's what I now.
Let that marinate for a yeah, to the point of making things up. In that same documentary, one of the things that they pointed out is that, you know, reconstruction happens. They try to make black people lazy. That doesn't stick well enough because Black people continue to sort of like build and create and Harlem Renaissance, all the cool things are sort of like happening for us in the world, despite the massive propaganda efforts to make us look like
fucking idiots. And one of the things that they intentionally do then is they go, Okay, black people aren't lazy, they're violent, and they start introducing all these images of us with razor blades, so they every fucking picture of black people suddenly is no longer We're lazy, big old watermelon,
smiley motherfuckers. We have razor blades in every picture, and we'll cut you, and we're violent, we're old, we're sick with our violence, and that becomes the image that they start to circulate because now it's, oh, we can't be near them because of the dangers that they represent.
Isn't it crazy how black people are everything? Like, there's so many stereotypes about black people that at some point it's like what it's like the contradictory is like they're stupid, they're docile, they're cunning, they're violent. Like the men aren't masculine and violent, they're feminine.
There's like, it's.
All the women are this, They're slutty, they're undesirable, they're this.
There's like, what is it?
What? Yeah, pick a pick a lane for us, give us one thing to stick to.
Yeah, and that would be nice. I would like it if they just picked one lane.
Just give us one thing violent. Okay, we can work with that. It's just it's everything, it's chaotic.
Yeah, what what stereotype? You choose them for us? Which one do you want to be? We get to make a choice.
Now it's obvious front runners, right uh.
And and none of the easy obviously big dick. That's just a fact. Okay.
Well uh then I'll go back to the drying.
Yeah.
I think I think we could do a lot with the sneaky one. That's how they got on.
Yeah, yeah, you're sneaking, Louis.
He had a purchase sneaky as fuck?
Was sneaky? You crafty motherfuckers sneak.
I'll take sneaky.
That's Nigga's not bad, a good one. And I'm not gonna name which specific groups, but.
We so I thought you weren going to do one.
I was like, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do it. But but we can name a few groups who have really thrived under the sneaky stereotype, Dave, they can we they've been called sneaky and they've been fine with it and they continue to fucking thrive.
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Please give us money. Uh but no, I do think snicky is in a bad room, Brochet. If you had to pick one, you where where what would you pick? I mean, I.
Would say sexy.
Oh okay, I'll be honest. I didn't know that was. I didn't know that was on the table.
I think it is.
I'm just gonna say we sexy.
I I I don't think it's not on the table. I just didn't think that that was like what the slave owners were walking around sort of struggling with. Damn it, they're sexy.
He's in the field glistening just to city and masterpiece.
A lot of almost twenty three and me's look interesting because they got master in their fucked up minds. Yeah, thought that so I'm just saying.
No, that's fair. Sex is pretty good.
Which did you take so stupid? Either, we're power ranking our favorite stereotypes.
Oh my god.
I I like, If I'm being completely honest, I do like that white people are nervous around us, and I don't want that. I don't want to lose that. So so unapproachable I think is it's still one that I I enjoy enough that that I I don't want to lose that, and I wish that it was unapproachable. But they still thought of us as very intelligent and very capable, so that they knew not to come near us. But we still benefited from all the respect that you would
gain from somebody knowing that you're smart, capable. Person that said, they mixed the metaphors and it becomes the ugly thing. But I don't I don't like when they just feel super comfortable with me. So I'm sticking with unapproachable.
Yeah, I think these were three really good picks.
Yeah, So if you're out there and you're thinking about spreading stereotypes about black people, we're sexy. Hey, hey we're sexy, We're unapproachable, and god damn it, we're sneaky in the motherfuckers.
So that's the quip for this episode.
That's crazy, sexy cool. No, you got one of them right, one is correct, the other two.
That's our album Man.
Sexy, sneaky, unapproachable. It sounds like a tank album.
That feels like real to be honest.
Yeah, And who's a better black person than Rihanna. I'll wait for you to name.
Is a top tier.
That's that's cream of deck crop. We're calling upon you because we have we have new merch. We have very exciting merch that we are now selling and it's it's fucking great. We love it so much.
Just sleek, it's sexy.
Come on, you want to tell them what we have?
Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is really fun. We have a two tone hat Alien Dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then we have the enamel pin with an alien who has a coofie on it since my Mama told me. And then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama, which is who you are.
Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my Mama told me dot Merchcentral dot com, and we want you to have all the sweet stuff, so get it. I do think at its core, the Willie Lynch letter is probably not real. I think we can we can maybe agree on it on its existence not being true, but maybe it's value to our community still being something
worth holding on to. It's it seems like it still has a value for us to cherish, and we shouldn't just throw that away simply because we made up a white man and decided to tell people about it.
I don't disagree. I think there's value in it. When I read it, I'm like, Yeah, this feels about right, and I think we should continue to teach kids that it's real.
Yeah.
And one of the things, if they can push a white Jesus, you can damn sure.
Yeah.
If there's a white Jesus, there's also a white devil. And and y'all have to make peace with that. You have to make peace with the fact that this is he represents the white devil for us and we need him.
It's like, I want this episode to do well. I also don't want anybody to hear it because I don't want him to know.
I don't want to ruin Santa clause.
You know what I'm saying. I want to ruin it for people.
That's how I feel every week.
And I and I do leave cookies out for Willie Lynch once the year, a little dry ass cookies.
I gotta get your kid to write a letter to yeh.
I say to my daughter, I say, baby girl, we we gotta write our letters. You gotta go to bed early. Willie Lynch is coming. Willie Lynch is gonna come, and he's gonna.
And you don't want to see him because he's drunk.
He's drunk, terrified. He's gonna. He's gonna make you hate your daddy. But but he's coming. Parts of him, parts of him, parts of parts of them. Your respect more than you realize your your respect him really really Santa Claus, Uh, I think we did it.
That feels like a good that was because this was this is an important episode.
This was an important episode. We're really roch, We're honored you joined us. Could you tell the people where they could bind you on? What cool ship you have going on?
Yeah?
Find me roche r O C H E E.
Jeffrey on Instagram and yeah, the nw A C P image rewards vote for not for uh, what's.
The goddamn name? Yes, we campus. Uh, support us. I'm blacking out.
You made it.
It's really mad that what just happened. Uh yeah, and you performing stand up everywhere. And it's been such a joy to join you guys today.
We're glad you were here.
Bory.
You want to tell the people where they commind you?
No, all right?
Uh.
February twenty ninth, watch Royal Crackers on Adult Swimming in the next day on HBO Max. You gotta watch it. My I need I need money.
It's very funny. Let's not short change it.
So it's a very funny show. I'm on every episode.
You're very funny in it. I enjoy your character maybe the most of all the characters in it. And I don't just say that as your your your partner in this ship.
Wow, that's really sweet.
That was a really beautiful moment.
Yeah, that's really really nice. I'm sorry I said that stuff about your.
Yeah no, you you really fucked me back there, but.
I was lashing out. Man, it's been a weird day. I'll tell and I'll tell the audience. I got my ship pushed back today. Yeah, and it's everything's been on.
Yeah. No, your hairline is is Uh, it's not what it was previously. It's safe to say.
My I mean, my confidence is We've had some hair issues on this podcast, so I feel like it's just it's not so bad. But no, it's not.
It's not as bad as you feel about it.
But you compare that to how I usually feel leaving the barbershop, and I'll be honest, my confidence isn't an all time low.
You.
Yeah, I'll say that that's the hoodie thing. It's just you were doing something daring with fashion and I was old fashioned and that's not cool. Man.
You you are a man who, for for as long as we've been doing this, I think, has really believed in that young man who's been cutting your hair. You've you've stood behind him.
I still do. I still players fuck up.
But yeah, no, you you really stood. You really had his back, and he hurt you in a way that I think I think you got to confront him. Yeah, you gotta say, like a bro, not for nothing. Last week wasn't your best work and we gotta get back on.
What if you did this before I got to Miami. Come on, I go in before trips like, yeah, I'm home this week, But what if this was before Miami Weekend.
We we gotta, we gotta treat everything like this. Every day is game day.
Everybody thinks on my Hillbilly, I live in the mountain. You can't come on, bro, And he's like, twenty six, you're too young for this. NOA, maybe quit telling me how your dad puts you on living single and more focused on my hairline not getting pushed back.
I'm gonna say right now, I'm concerned about when you go back the next time. If you listen to this, he might deliberately fuck up your hairlining.
He listens to this in the way that a barber consumes your content. Yeah, any deeper than five minutes, I promise.
My Barbara listened, quote unquote listen to some episodes. But I don't think that Nigga's making it to the end.
I don't know that's he's.
Making it to the credits. You know what I mean? Like, we're good.
And I'm going back, so you know who the fault is that right now? You guys don't know him like God do. Though he loves me, Ye.
This is just a one time there. He would never hit me again.
No, sometimes love hurts, that's a dark end. The point is watch that television pots.
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Keep Bory's birthday open. Sinko Spanish, the boys Spanish deeply demard yes, and that's the that's the whole shebang. Bye bitch, Chips in your.
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