Alien, Are You Okay? (with Sultan Salahuddin)

there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me Podcast, where we dive deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove that Scissor is the sexiest human with the speech impediment on the current

planet Earth. There's nobody with a more beautiful that can't pronounce their ares then, siss It's it should be embarrassing, we should be sitting around shaming her, but no, she's so goddamn sexy that we just accepted whatever bullshit is coming out of her mouth. I'm David Bori, and I'm an advocate for speech impediments worldwide and not on the same side as my goals. I want that right now. Why do you always turn on me? I just say, don't you just support me inside of these burn burn bridges.

I'm back the list. I'm back the list. Drop those as, drop those das babies. You're right, I it's me that's making a mistake here. I'm your I'm your other hosts, like stink Kerman, we're here today, uh, celebrating speech impediments. I guess that and also fat ass speech impediments and fatasses. I think is is a worthy celebration to one of those who never even und question. Yeah, well exactly. I'm glad we can at least agree on the latter. Perfect.

So I'm very excited today because our our guest today, I don't think he has a speech impediment. He might got a fat ass. I'm not sure what he's working with. I haven't taken enough of a look. But he's hilarious. He's a he's a phenomenal comedian, a very funny actor. You know him best as one of these stars and writers of the show South Side which is currently got working on season three coming soon. He's hilarious. Please give it up for our guests. Mr Sutan Salahudine. Hell yeah, dog,

So what's up everybody? My mama told me as glad you're very happy and thanks for having Hell yeah, man, We're very excited you're here. This has been a long one in the making. I've known you for a few years now when we haven't had you on, so I'm so happy that you're finally doing it. Well, thank you. I'm glad that our schedules collided and allowed us to work because hit here, guys is equally funny, if not more funny, So this should be really really interesting. Yeah,

it's gonna be toxic. Buddy. You came to us. You came to us with a conspiracy theory that I'll say this off the bat and Borio. I don't know how you feel about this, but it's not a conspiracy theory that I would necessarily immediately think of as a black conspiracy theory, you know what I mean. Like, it's not one that I immediate lee associate with the black community,

which is not a bad thing. I think I think this might open up some conversations that we don't normally get to have on this show, and so I won't. I won't hold my the listener's breath any longer. But you said, my mama told me some strange ship happened in ross Welle. Absolutely, Actually it wasn't my it was my mama's sister. It was. Yeah, so this was let me set the background for you. So we're in Chicago. I don't know. I was young. I was at my

grandmother's Christmas celebration. It was like Christmas even and follow you that don't know that we grew up Muslim, so we didn't really celebrate Christmas. So it was a treatment of itself from my mom to take us over there to hang out with my grandmother. So my aunt is over there. So in that you are your aunt does still celebrate Christmas. Your family specifically does not. We're the

only family within the whole generation. Was one of two founders in the whole generation is settled that uh practice Islam. The rest of our families were like Christians, Catholics and everything else. So I had a nice melting pot of religions growing up. I got all the information from everywhere. The point, yeah, whether it was stuck and out. That's a different story. But my favorite aunt, um, I'm not listening one of my MANI favorites, and I have a

lot of favorite for us. I was very privileged child to have a lot of strong female role models in addition to male roles. I just had it every like family wise, it was plentiful. But this particular aunt, I tended to believe her more. Here's why. One she was a Chicago police officer. N yeah, she's passed on. She's in Chicago Police office. So you know, if you know anything about police, they know stuff that they don't necessarily

tell you to share with the public. This I had to be like, man, I think I was like eight or nine, and I just got a lot some kind of gifts and my just like geeked off the gift. And my aunt, my auntie, she used to uh have Crowned Royal in her couple lots. She would drink a lot, like I was gonna ask. But but even if she was, even if she was like she was a good kind of alcohol, you know the kind. Why do you gonna give you kisses in toys and tell you to watch

out and watch your ass like that? Well you know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, I think a loving aunt. But here's the deal. Like when we would um, when we would go visit with her, she would she would get a little saucy he drink every now and again. And I remember it. As soon as I got the gift in my hands, she comes down to my level, looks me in the eyes, and she goes seven, roswell. It was real and walks away. Damn, that's what she said to me. Now, that said cop.

Mind you. When she was bending down talking to me, I saw her shiny thirty eight and in her bags. She had my attention. It wasn't even a question. I don't think you're gonna argue with her when when there's a gun sitting there and she's like, yeah, I'm drunk, and roswell was real. It was lit so honestly, So when she told me that, I was just like, all right, whatever.

I didn't actually look it up like maybe seven years later, like when I got older, and it started like and I started looking it up and I started doing research and I was like, oh my god. So that's where it started for me. And since then, like listen to interviews on researches. I find it to be fascinating. There are parts of it that I necessarily I don't know if if I can believe them, But there are parts of it where I'm just like, how do you not

at least acknowledge existence of it? Mm O, Yeah, it's it's a double left sword. I have one first question. Yeah, that one first question everybody's mind. What is the relation to Roswell, New Mexico and Chicago p D. I think that we need to get to the bottom of here. Well, coming from it was not a cop, I have no idea. I will tell you this. She told me about a lot of things she told me about. Let me tell you. She told me about the O J trial while it was going on and when she heard the wire before

it actually that never hit the news. Does that make sense? She knew information, specific information about the mutilation of the cold that never came out to light and I was able to verify with another cop and so yeah, okay, that's what I'm telling you. So yeah, it's sort of like cops had Facebook before Facebook was the thing, and then they could like connectict right. It was just basically it would go across the wire, and if you're a copy in America, you would hear it. Damn. So she

about crimes all across the nation. You know, that's that's terrifying that they that they're able to talk that closely to each other. Oh Man, well said some yearly shootings. It's crazy. No, not at all. They're no where to be fat. But we know everything else. So but that's what that's also when I learned that, you know, there is a big net that's cast when it comes to police departments and how they communicrate across the whole nation. I didn't know that then either. She told me that

was like, how do you know that? Chicago? So so she tells you this, you are not inclined to argue at the time, I think is the way that you You said that the gun No, he couldn't say No. I was not so young, and I didn't. I didn't. I didn't understand the gravity of what she was saying. I was just you might she might as well have been saying trains roll back. Well, that's what I was

gonna ask you. She's she's she's drunk, she's drinking midshelf hard hard liquor make with PEPSI might I add with mid shelf cola and I'm sorry, down r C. You can't do that. That's we call that a three quarter. I'm just saying that's what I remember. But yeah, now, at the time, what she told me, she wasn't drunk, she was tips. She was TI. She tells you this, she says, she says, roswell was real. What do you do? You do you feel anything at this point? Are you

just like, I've never even heard of roswell? Are you like, oh, I know at least what you're kind of referring to, because you're not a You're not a kid who was born in a time period where roswell is even in the lexicon necessarily exactly. Plus this is before the internet really blew up. So I was kind of like, get the funk out of my face. I want to play with toys like that was I was that young? I didn't really, but it's stuck. I don't know why it's stuck,

but it's stuck. At when the maturity caught up with the curiosity, it was like, first of all, I was like, why would she tell me that, Adam, all the people here, why why would she choose Why was she choose that moment where I'm experiencing exhilaration from toys that I've never gotten before, because again, we didn't sell thebrate Christmas. I'm just saying, it's it's a it's a it's huge when you don't do it versus somebody who showed the puppet side.

I just didn't understand the timing of it all. And I'm trying. I've always been trying to process in my mind, like what was it that she saw and that I was holding? They triggered that thought for her to drop down and say that, And I'm like, that's that's weird. Yeah, what was the toy? Do you remember the toy like a Teddy rug span or I think it was Teddy. It was a cabbage batch kid man, you know the black boat? Yeah, look like no, no, it was it

was a rapper, cabbage batch, dungaree's on and everything. Um. I think it was like a fire truck or something that my grandmother game. She thought. I was like four, I don't know what's going on, but you know, she was the fire truck or something like that. It was an innocent suite. Here you go, gift. Here, here's the big question I sort of have in relation to this because because when someone says Roswell was real, what do you think she was referring to? Or follow up question

before you even answer, what do you believe to be real? Now? Because I think that's what you're suggesting at least, is that you do believe something real happened there. Break down exactly what is the real that happened in Roswell for you and your eye? Okay, So from my perspective, I think that she didn't share everything with me. I think she just spit that out to start to spark my interest. It's like for your own Yeah, you're down the line so I can have a breakdown and trying to figure

all this out. That's what she was really doing. She's sucking with my And then after that, like I I so as I did the research and I started this is research for ten fifteen years. I didn't just sit out one day and go through it. I wouldn't go to and check it out, leave not messed with it for a while. He or's something that remind me of this. So it was a it was a series over years, but it was just one thing. It was this guy named Gerald Anderson. Now this guy was in Yeah Gerald Anderson.

He was interviewed September. I remember that day because I remember it was low fi. It was low value. But before the video came on. I think you might be able to still find it on YouTube. Before the video came on, there was another guy introduced him was like, all right, he's went through a polygraph test and we have found no inclination of him lying about anything. So they set up was amazing, like if he was gonna

fool somebody, they did a great job. And they did it back in nineteen eighty two or something like that. But this guy talks about how he was there, how his family had just moved to New Mexico and that July and when they were out about that's when the crash happened. In him and his brother and his dad, and I think it was just the three. It might be one other person I don't remember, but they basically

walked up on the aircraft. Dude was talking about how he touched the aircraft and how it was really cold just in the area where they were, but everywhere else was like ninety degrees. He talked about the color of the aliens that he saw he described their heads. Now, I was watching his body language, even though he just did the Hood League graph test. I was just watching his body language to see if I could pick up on anything. There's like, honestly, little ship, you know, I

didn't pick up anything. And the way that he was describing the events, it was it was as if they were real and he was pulling them from memory versus making them up. So that put me in the direction like, yo, this there may be more to it than it is. And then the other thing when I went further research, did a little bit further research around the time when

it happened. Shortly thereafter, the military was like, oh, it was a blow, and then almost every paper in a America reprinted another story saying, oh, it was just a blow and it was don't worry about it. So for me when it smoked this fire, like why would all the papers do that? At the same side, why would this guy to make this up? Why would they make a TV show based off of it? Shortly thereafter, Area

fifty one was developed. After that, you had like I think it was one, two, three, four elements added to the periodic charts. Great, wait, wait, I'm just giving you mad yo know are teen won fifteen one, seventeen one eighteen. Those are the elements. Tell the science, baby, what are the world? What? We got four new medals after this get dropped, dude in that's when they were added to the periodic change. You're saying that that is medals from

the spacecraft. I'm not saying that specifically. What I am saying is their medals that aren't from this planet, the newly discovered it's what has been reported, their newly discovered medals that may not be from this planet. I'm gonna say maybe because some people say they are something like, oh I invented it, you ain't. It's the way. So, but there are four new elements that are added to the periodic truck, and that's been around before both of

us was born, and then two other people. Is what I'm saying is like, how do we have some new elements we just got discovered that those are the kind of things that and then I have a friend who used to be in the Marines, and I had a cousin who's in the Navy, and this is I'm gonna share something with you that my cousin from the name and leave his name because I don't think he's passed his time before you can start talking about it. I think it's like ten to twenty years before you can

talk about you discharged for this dumbass podcast. But he's already gone, he's already out. He's probably got like we're going in. Oh no, but he told me. He told me that when they were out at sea on their naval ships, they would see aliens go in the ocean. It let me rephrase, they would see ships, unidentified flying objects go in and out of the ocean all the time where they were. That's what he told me. Very

m yeah, that's one of the things. Oh yeah, I don't know what that means, but I like the way. But behold, you never heard of that book, Like, I don't know, you should read it. You should read it just for yeah, just for jokes. I mean you should read that. I don't know. I'm out here, I'm unread

Oh ship, God damn. That's but that is one of the things that that I think the government has sort of like been very tricky about over the course of like all of these alien sightings whatever the funk it is, is that they are very specific to use the phrase UFO, and they say UFO meaning identified flying objects which we have associated with aliens, but for for government officials, for

the military, for whoever is quote unquote in charge. When they say that, they at least suggest that that's not always what they mean, that it merely could be an object that they have not yet associated with a country or a another power or whatever. The How how often does that happen? Airspace is regulated, highly regulated. Yeah, you don't just get to fly a plane without I can't get on my plane and like, oh, we didn't know unidentified It is just going to believe you or whatever

I do. Have you guys ever seen one? That's my question to have any of you guys ever seen I have not. I want to say, let me, let me explain the circumstances. When I was in Kentucky, I was sitting on the back porch. She was man, my dog, addys that's it was a lab and go to retrievers, favorite dog in the world, sitting back there and this was it was. I would say, it was like eleven thirty at night and I was just sitting for whatever reason.

It was been a long day. I was whatever the hell I was doing, I was sitting on the back decade with the full lent to the house, and I just happened to be looking back into the trees and then I noticed in the top right of the sky there was a light. And then that light went straight down like ohn't no, man, it was like it was it was so fast, and then it made a nine degree angle and went west in the sky and then

it disappeared. That's all I saw. So I can't say, hey, that was alien driving drunk board, that was the military practice. I don't know, but I know I saw unusual lights in the sky that went from the top of the zenus of the sky down to the horizon and then west. And I would say it didn't for at least, Oh, I don't know. It happened in like five seconds. And and when this happened, what were the feelings? Were you scared?

Where you were? You like, I gotta call somebody, I gotta make this known that what I saw, Yeah, it was a total obsoe. I like, I couldn't believe that I saw myself. And then I was like, I want you gonna tell somebody, And I thought about I was like anybody, and I just sat there and joined the rest of the evening. Didn't like because what, yeah, what can I do? Like, it's a thousand miles away. I just saw it. If nobody else is out here with me, it's just me and the dog. It's a reasonable black man.

I get that. You know, you gotta make a choice. Yeah, you can't be crazy nigging in the police station. You gotta just yell about yeah drunk. I was like, Yeah, this is my dog. He was there. All right, they're gonna go to the drunk tank for the evening. I'm not. I'm not gonna play this game. You're not even drunk. All Let let me ask you this, this last question

before we go to break. So you are definitively on the side of believing that this was alien activity, specifically in ron'swell, and not just the the military sort of blanket UFO conversation. I you know what, I'm gonna have to lean towards uh proofs in the pudding Man, because from all the counts that I studied, the military showed up after the crash happened. They weren't there. They weren't

there like flying planes and trying to experiments. This cracks from what I understand that that saucer hit a mountain, went through not through it, but scraped it, and then got lodged into another building and it was debris everywhere, like you couldn't hide it, and people were walking up picking up stuff there. From from what I understand, there were alien bodies laying on the ground, etcetera. So I wasn't there. I can't say the fact, but y know,

it's it's the military. That's not a project that the military would do, and they don't do their projects like that out the open. They're closed there, They're they're secret, they're not just hey, everybody go for it. So they were that was damaged control and they were trying to

clean up that mess. And the guy in the video said that the military made them leave and go up the ridge when they were trying to go back down, and he said, as soon as he got to the top, he saw C. Nine Thames, he saw all kind of hummers and humbies and he's like he didn't even hear them when they showed up, but they just happened to be there, So I, you know, yeah, they yeah, the

militaries everywhere, you know that. But I'm just saying, like I don't believe that that was anything that the military was doing. I think they were responding to something, because they do have people like that in the military. From what my cousins Rumpy worry, where are you at with it? You you what you buying into? So I've been not at the whole time my aliens, baby, great boys. Now I think I agree, possibly drunk r c and Crown, let's go check out what they're doing down there. You know,

you're drunk, guitar to fly. I don't believe the government in anything. I think they're all and the whole time. Yeah, I think that's a reasonable approach. I'm not always convinced that it's specifically aliens in every scenario, but I definitely think that we're being lied to, uh nine nine point nine percent of the time. The space is fast and it's black as hell, and it's someone who is fast and black, as I understand, that can be complicated and

it can contain platitude. So of course I think I believe, I'm I'm all, I'm with all that. All that. I think it would be foolish of us too, so that we are the only intelligence species within the universe. I mean, if we're on our own planet. You know, they're cats, dogs, fish, different species. So like the proof is right in front of us that we're not the only species in the in the universe. What else is out there? Don't don't eat me up. Dr buses share DNA with no one

the offense. Oh, don't get me started on dolphins and their ability to communicate. I mean, where does that come from? Yeah, we didn't teach them to talk. Damn. I I feel like I need to listen animal right now just to be able to keep up with y'all. Platypus, what's going on there? Latin eggs and a mammal? What that's crazy? All right, We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Suiti, Solid, Houdine and more, my mama told me,

And we are that you ever feel, you know? Not? No, no, no, Yeah, we're back here a more su time solid who being more And my mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility that Roswell is the the true landing of some real alien crashes. That's that or an alien crash that led to all kinds of chaos and and speculation and conspiracy born from that crash. Let me ask you this,

Do you feel like that. I guess that the conspiracies that you've heard or sort of like the conspiracy that that was born from it is something that you're proud to attach to because some of what I think people worry about with Roswell is that it it turned into almost this cult ish thing where people are like aliens are real and they're showing up in a sort of costumes and ship like that. Is that where you're brought in? Are you Are you down to go visit and clown

with those people? Are you more like, No, I'm I'm watching from a far type energy. Yeah, I think that's silly. Get dressed up like the clown alien and go hang out what you think they used to be? Like, I'm not getting that. I'm more into First of all, I'm more about being made aware of stuff. Like I. I don't necessarily have to hear something and abscribe to it and make it part of my DNA. I can hear something, it goes, one ear, I can process and they keep

going without having a belief attached to it. But as far as this particular one goes, I just know that after Roswell happened, area fifty one was created, and that for me is a big tailtale, like why do you need to create the whole area that nobody can go to and you and there have been documented extraterrestrial activities above and around that area. So for me proof in the pudding, Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say, hey, that's not real and it doesn't exist, because I can

only go by what I know. But I'm not stupid, and I know how to put two and two together and where there's smoke, there's fire, so um I would In other words, I can't prove that there are aliens there or that ross will literally happened. I have no way to prove that physically to anybody and make them believe it. But at the same time, I would not be shocked. I just wouldn't be shocked if it was all true. I wouldn't. There's too much DNA for me

to be like, oh, that's bull I feel it. I will say that that those reports that came out, what was it like to three years ago where the US government finally like admitted that for years, these these unidentified flying objects exactly been been very present in our skies and they have not quite figured out what the fuss is happening. Does give me some assurance that something weird is happening throughout time, right, that this is like an

isolated incident. It truly is like over the course of decades, generations, we're seeing this ship. I mean, I've even seen some uh, some alien depictions and Egyptian higher glyphs. Hmm, yeah, if you know how so, yeah, exactly to Egypt. So if you know how to read, God damnage, you gotta be started sitting all over the world. But anyway, if you if you if you're able to, because my mom took us to like, oh my god, I went to every

use them in Chicago is good. And the Museum of Natural History has a amazing section on Egypt as well as higher glyphs, and they do a whole program about that. And I've studied a little bit of the sim As you know, they don't use words, they use signs and symbols. If you go back and look at some of the higher glyphs, there are clear pictures of flying saucers, beings with cone shaped heads, alien looking beings like it's all

throughout there. So if you don't know what to look for, you don't know what you're looking at, but if you do, it's it's like clear. So my question then goes, why is that in Egyptian higher glyphs before I even existed and we're still talking about today. Is there a connection there? I don't know. I think a fool would be like, well that that's just a coincidence. But is it? Damn if you can read hier glyphs, you gotta change your name to Indianapolis Jones crusis one glys that's I'm thirsty

out this motherfucker. You gotta water out. What's the one that's the only higher? Uh? Albano. It's just a bunch of sids. Oh that way. So let's jump into this research because because there's a little there's quite a bit to unpack here. So summer of nineteen forty seven, as you mentioned this rancher W W. Brazil, I think it's already what's the Brazilian doing in New Mexico? You're already

you're already skeptically. So he is the original person cited for being found the wreckage of this very on his very sizable property, Lincoln County, New Mexico, approximately seventy five miles north of Roswell's what they said also seventy five years ago, pretty much. Now do the man whoa Okay, now we gotta do one of them YouTube videos where we break down numbers. For some reason, I love this. Yeah, the god only shines so bright, pimic because you shine

like one. Yeah, I'm sorry, I would know. This is exactly what the YouTube video needs to be. It's like you're almost making a point and then it gets interrupted by I guess a thoughtful phrase when you were talking about math and I was thinking about O. D. B

and the gods. Yeah. So one of the things that's worth noting is that that summer, in particular ninety seven, the summer of ninety seven, there was a massive influx all across the country, not just in New Mexico of UFO sightings and was really the start of the language around what we now know to be quote unquote flying saucers. That before that, that word, that phrase did not exist.

But they found all these different sightings, or at least reported all these different sightings in places like New York, in Spokene, Washington, in somewhere else in Washington. That's name is is missing me, right, now the state or or d C. There was also one in d C. Yeah. It was over the over the White House for a

couple of days. Yeah, And it became such a big deal that in fact, in fact, Yeah had to make a statement where he said, I spoke to someone in the Air Force, like a high up in the Air Force, who assured me we are not being visited by aliens from outer space. Right. And that's interesting because he also went missing for like two to three days when that when that encounter happened. Whoa, he went miss? I didn't hear that part. Look it up. Eisenhowerd went missing for

like two to three days. They couldn't find him. Say also, do we think he's a plant? If you know, I mean, it was too late now I'm saying I will I will also say that Eisenhower lived his life on the down low and very well could have disappeared on some uh on just a little bit of a rendezvous with

with you know, is that that he's a movership? I believe so, And maybe I'm spreading uh misinformation, but but I'm also also to do that there's no president that I'm willing to protect without spreading from misinformation, And I'm almost positive that Eisenhower was known as somebody who was like secretly canoodling. Yeah it was from Okay, so I'm gonna jump down a rabbit hole where I don't have the references, just some things that I heard as it

related this. What I understand. From what I understand is like Dwight daz and Eisenhower went and met with aliens. He met with him for a couple of days, and then he returned, and then he returned talking about he had to go do a dental appointment, but he was gone for a couple of days. And the story goes is that he met the leader of some kind of federation and as the result of that, he made a deal with them to exchange technology for human beings people

cell phones and commuters and all that other ship. So that's so you gotta think, how did we go from the nineteen fifties too and exponentially increased our technology, Like, ain't nobody that's smart, y'all? I think we're not that smart. Yeah, we're not that smart. I'm just saying we're not that smart. So as a result of that, have you guys ever heard of missing for one one no Malaysia Airline. What

we're talking about. Okay, it's this guy by the name of David Politis, and he's an ex cop from l A. But what he does is he specialized in finding missing people. But they have to have these but very particular circumstances for them miss In other words, they have to go to like a national park, they have to be with the group of people, they have to disappear. He has books that he has a movie and all this stuff. So he's found out that a lot of people are

coming up missing in national parts. Hence the connection between Eisenhower and the missing individuals on our planet. So I don't know. Like he was like, you could have some of us, but you gotta get him out of yellow Stone. Yeah, He's like, we gotta do this on on federal ground. Not you can't just go to Detroit and grab right. I don't want to go with you anyway. You don't want that DNA. What if the experiment? Oh now, if you get some dumb ass gazing up at the nights

guy at the Grand Canzy, yeah, you call them. So,

I don't know. I've read some military documents before. They were hard for me to decipher, I will admit, so I didn't go all the way through them, so I can't report anything on them, but I do know that there there is some documentation out there somewhere that talks about this, specifically about him missing and the things that he did or allegedly did when he And then that also made from what I understand, that also made the powers that be in the military really focus on devolution

and continuity of government because they were like, see your very question, how do we know that's the guy that left, and how do we don't know if he's coming back with a plan to do something? Does that make sense? So that was another thing that came out of that. It's a lot of things that came out of it. So you spoke to this earlier, and I do think this is sort of like the inciting incident that makes

roswell and and every anything that transpired there. So tricky is that when the initial findings happened, when like they found all this ship debris in my boy's yard, he comes forward, he gives it to the police. The police don't know what it is, so then they give it to the military, and then the military the first day goes this is some weird flying saucer thing we've never

seen before. Like the military goes on, that's right. So the first day they go, this is unidentified, we ain't never seen this before, and they literally use the language of flying disc slash flying saucer exactly. They that gets a lot of attention immediately. And then your boy I exactly calls and we don't know for sure that he calls, but perhaps he calls between geting his booty eight. He calls and he says that's should We don't know. He might like to eat. I don't know, so he calls.

And then the next day, following the second day, the military comes forward and says, actually, we were mistaken. That language is inrect the the what was found was a military balloon that that we were just using for testing whether in this area it's nothing to worry about. And they even go so far as to put a picture of one of the officers in the newspaper holding what looks like the the basic parts of the balloon to show that like, oh, this is the dude that was

working on it. This is why you're finding the things that you're find. Meanwhile, in a five mile radius, we have all kind of medals and parts and aliens said that you'd effort. See, so yeah, that's that that that action right there for me, the cover up, that's what makes me go, oh, wait a minute, why do you feel they need to cover all that up? And then again it was in every paper across the nation like at once, Oh that was the weather bloons, so it's

kind of killed it. Yeah. And one of the things that they did that was especially sort of like damning to to whatever their plans were, was that they made the mistake of even in one of the newspapers saying specifically, we captured a flying saucer, even though what they technically did was recovered debris from another person who gave it to another person. But in sort of like this poor articulation of the thing, they basically said we found aliens,

right basically basically. And then there is the whole element of like, now, I don't know if you saw this in your research, but from from what I remember, there were four alien beings that were outside the craft who were dead. One was moaning around like he got shot with a twelve gage, and others sitting Yes, I was just sitting there like, oh my god, I can't believe just taping what I understand. Yeah, hey, don't drink space tesse. Guys don't know what to tell you. My girl's gonna

kill me. I shouldn't have been drinking crowning our sea driving around. I just got this whip. I was trying to show those guys. I was trying to show my friends. I just got this whip. It's the latest show. We were just gonna take it around the block. He's like, I got spinners on this small fuck. Hey, y'all trying to see something cool watch this. He was in there like, hey, hold my beer. Yeah, I bet you can't whip this motherfucker whip it. Then, Frank crazy friend. But that is Frank.

All the names a the world, they're not better than us. They got the same names as us. I love that. I love that his name is. Anyway, what I understand, the military took Frank alive, and and that's and that's how Area fifty one was created. And also there's a level to the military that's called above majestic. It was established shortly after Roswell because majestic is the highest level of brass in the military. Above majestic means yo you know, you gotta have all kinds of ship to get to

any of that information. It's so classified that the President of the United States cannot act. Yeah best, No, Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know that. I believe Biden's majestic, like the majestically clunky. Yeah, yeah, majestic probably looks a little a little sexier than that. But I just you know, Biden's like meets expectations, you know what I mean, whatever that that level of clearances for fours, Like truly he has no blue you know, they're like

cautious to tell him we have fifty states states. Still he's like, he's not even a certain that that's the thing. So, so before we go to break, because I do think that this will be a great lead in for us to to keep the conversation going. One of the things that this does is it starts all the conspiracy theory, speculation, conjecture that follows. Right once once they make this mistake and then try to retract that mistake by calling it

a weather balloon. But then in after years and years of all kinds of speculation, all kinds of different conspiracy theories that are being born, the military Eventually, the government eventually admits that they were lying about the weather balloon the entire time. They come forward and they put it together a document where they explicitly say we wasn't telling the truth. It was not a weather balloon. That picture

was fraudulent. What it was is what they claim is spy where spy materiods that they were using to to keep track of Russia and testing in the Roswell area at the time of the incident. So let me get this trade. You gotta go to the bottom of the nation and Russia's the total opposite direction that I believe you. Also, balloons is the worst technology for the air. It's not great, are not tourists notoriously terrible air air like technology. Notoriously

we had jets. You were gonna float balloons to Russia. That sounds made up. It seems very weird as the choice. And then if you have weather balloons, I'm it a little supposed to control the weather, and I phone like, what's going on? What are we doing? I think they're in buying that the weather balloons were more for tracking and and sort of research of whether why they would do it in a desert where there really isn't weather. Yeah, it's gonna be hot tomorrow. We know where that's not

even gonna be. Yeah, you gotta have the weather balloons otherwise you'll simply never know what temperature it'll be outside in a desert. I just yeah, I just again see your point. Um like said, it's just too many inconsistent, too much backtracking for me to be like, Okay, I

believe you now. Oh no, that was it. Oh, I believe you now, Okay, whatever you tell me, like, And that is the the scary part with the game that they're playing, right because at any point, and and I if I was to give the government any grace, which I don't know that they deserve, but if I were at any point, if I did buy into your story, you are then proving that you are willing to falsify stories and then also change stories over the course of generations.

So not only are you lying to people who actually are invested in your ship, but you're giving all the leeway for everybody else who's like you know, I never believed you in the first place. Yep. Oh. And my last point about Frank is they took him created Area fifty one, and that's where he lives to this day, is what. That's why you have all those people out there in the vata up at area fifty one, because they think we want to get in there and me Frank.

You know, obviously Frank is the area that we're talking about. But that's that's that's why they have such a following. That's when there's so many people up the outside of everything that they see. But that's how the story goes. One survived and now that one is helping them discover all kinds and see. I that's where I call bullshit. I'll be honest with you, is because I think that if we did catch an alien and we did keep that alien, that motherucker died pretty quickly. I don't see

a world where you don't know. It's like I don't know about that. It's like the fucking killer whales in sea world. They ain't gonna live to their natural end. They are not from here. But I'll give you. I'll give you one better to show you the government would do that. The ski experiments. Let those motherfucker's die. That's what you're saying. We're not gonna just let let him live off of vegetables. We're gonna poke some ship into him and he's gonna die. Well, they may keep him

alive to get information from. So that's the other thing. The military is very smart. They're not gonna just like all right, this motherfucker's not six foot five and get Doug kill him. No, that wouldn't be like, Yo, what talents do you have? How do we learn how to communicate? I feel like that's just me. That's that's how I think.

But you could be but I think like, no, they kept that motherfucker alive, and it's mathematical formulas and learn how to re engineer ship all kinds of stuff like That's that's like if you had an enemy who was a commander of a legion, you wouldn't kill him right away. You get as much information as you good for him. Between suppose of that body. From a military perspective, we have no idea about alien life expectancies. We have no idea on what he takes for substance. Maybe you maybe

he wasn't even that hurt the man. I think, what if he lives seven hundred years? I think it's I think it's like Tillicum, y'all. I think I think Tillicum could have lived to a hundred, but till it Coom is only gonna live to twelve because you put him in that little tunk, you know. Yeah, yeah, they really tell them the alien in my mind, but and you

know what, like here's the beauty of it. You you could probably be wanted an accurate that's the beauty with all these conspiracies, Like no one can say for sure what's what. You could have your speculations, but as much as I can say, you know, he's still alive. Gonna yes, So, I mean, it's a it's a scary game we're playing. But but you know what, we're gonna keep playing this game. We're gonna take a break and we'll be back with more su time Slalo Houdein and more, my mama told me.

And we are back anyway. Yeah, we're back here with more su time Slalo Houdein more. My mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility that there's aliens, one specifically named Frank that was captured in the Roswell incident. And he's he's I guess I gotta twisted up dorsal, but he's still alive. According to bory In two time, well well, we're not sure he's in. He hasn't a

bad address, he's got a a bad adge. So to the the original point, not the original point, but the point that we left off on of the the military claiming that these were this was spy materials that were happening or that they were using that ultimately got knocked down, and then this is what everybody was conflating or confusing rather with the the alien materials the UFO materials. One of the things that experts, a lot of experts have come forward and said that it's actually a very stupid

argument on the part of the military. One of the things that they've said proves that this is a sort of dumb position to take is the fact that at the time near Roswell they were actually testing the nuclear bombs, that this was like the location for where they were doing a lot of the test sites for nuclear bombs, it was the test site for a lot of the things that they were using for like military equipment, and so them at one point signing off as UH saying

that this was alien or UFO meant that they were going to be drawing attention to an area that they wouldn't obviously want any attention drawn to If you're testing bombs, you don't want people coming by and trying to take a peek. And so for you to be like, yeah, it might have been aliens as an excuse to distract away from the actual thing, which is spyware, then you're only making more attention not getting rid of it, right, doesn't make sense. It's this this is stupid argument. You're

absolutely correct, I think. Um. One of the things that I remember reading and hearing about is the fact that one the alien from Now this is going to kind of contradict the whole argument of they've been aroused its Egypt, But that's a totally different argument. This argument is like I put that other things, that's that's all for what I understand, And the fact that once we started as a as a as a planet, once we started testing nucle their weapons, the alien activity increased on our planet

because they were like, what the funk are you guys doing? Now? How did you learn how to split the adam? So that's one of the things. So when you brought that up, I was like, that that lies up with something else that I race. So that's wan throw that point. M hmmm. And I will say that I've seen a few alien documentaries that have talked a little bit about sort of like what the potential motive of aliens coming to visit

the planet might be. And one of the things that they specifically point to is saying that there are two options. One they're either coming here to beat our ass and take our ship, which you know, I think Stephen Hawking has come forward and even said that back then. Yeah. Yeah, he sort of like did a wheelie into a room and was like, hey, y'all. Uh hey, by the way, if aliens do ever come to the planet, they're only coming here for divisive reasons or to like take resources.

That was his belief. Now the other argument, the other suggestion is that they might be coming here to provide us with technology that would free us of our own sort of like self destruction. That like, we as humans are going to destroy the planet, which we all know to be true, and so the aliens in theory are seeing us do it, i e. Looking at these nuclear bombs going off, and they are going to introduce technology that would be less destructive and or anti destructive to

everything that we've built. I've heard that as well, and uh no, signs that you're saying. It's it doesn't seem to be working. The phones were going crazy. Here's here's X videos. Maybe you won't kill each other. Yeah, it's it doesn't. I don't know what your preference. And yeah, my coming on what you were saying, it was like, I mean, there's I forgot the name of this famous philosopher, but he says, the universe is it's not stranger than we know. It's stranger than we can though, if that

makes sense. In other words, your mind doesn't have the ability to comprehend how strange the universe is. And that for me was just like WHOA, you're right, because if you think about your day to day activities, Oh, I gotta go here and make this meeting, I gotta drop this off, I gotta come back, you're not even thinking about what's going on two galaxies away. So my point is,

like he's got a point, it's you just can't. I can't absolutely say, absolutely me absolutely say that anything is a hun certain unless I'm touching it, seeing in the feeling it. Other than that, man, like, I can't say it's not. I just I I would feel foolish to be like, oh that ain't true, and my knowledge is limited. So that's how I approached the world, not necessarily believing everything. But I'm open to the idea it's possible that it's true.

Would it? Would it change your mind that that philosopher was Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey said that, uh what I know. I know it's not the astro physicists and said it. So I was like, oh, you found that. I don't think I didn't find it. It's how Dane. No, I'm not kidding. His name is how Dane. Yeah, he was JBS. How Danny was a Marxist, he was from he was from the UK. Hell, yeah, I love that. Yeah, I don't know, I love that last edition. He was from the UK, So you know, you know whatever that is

for you. But yeah, so one of the last pieces of conspiracy that I had never heard before, and I'm

curious to hear both of your thoughts on this. Some claim that the crashing flying vehicle that was that what crashed rather was neither extra terrestrial or US spot, that in fact, it was an unconventional plan induced by Joseph Stalin to create widespread American panic across like the nation that basically Stalin figured that it was an easy strategy to pretend to have this alien crash that they claim had children in the aircraft, and those small people that

came out were in fact just kids. The kids come out, they look alien. People will see it. It will create panic and subsequently tear America apart without having to necessarily shoot a gun at you know, obviously one of the more dangerous countries in the world. That's worse than the weather below. Oh you think that's a worse argumentsh like,

why would you? Why would he? Yeah, that don't that don't even that's yeah, that sounds like somebody's like, did not buy the weather little Let's throw Stalin at them. You neither of you are. Is no that over there? He had a lot of people to kill. He got tied. Yeah, like, bro, no, it's not I don't even whoever wrote that deleted? All right, Well I'll let them know in the comments. Uh, I'll write down, Hey, the boys didn't like it very much. You might want to you might want to cross this

one off of the page. You got to use a different dictator because that ain't going so one of the other pieces of information that I didn't know and you were talking about hieroglyphics a little bit earlier. But there are also suggestions that the son of the intelligence offered officer who first reported seeing the higher or first reported

obtaining rather the debris that came from the crash. Uh. The Sun claims that there were hieroglyphic like writings on the craft, on the pieces of metal that came back to their home, which may have been in fact Russian, but because the boy was eleven at the time, any

other language just seemed alien to him. So this is again, no I'm not proving it, but this is what he claims and thought there were hyperd glyphic writings, and some people speculate that it could be Russian writing or some sort of foreign writing that he didn't understand because he was a big old dumb dumb who hadn't finished his brain yet. It was Egyptian Russians. Yeah, Egyptian Russians I think I read about. I mean, you know what, I

wouldn't be surprised. I just there's okay. So I do a lot of research, do a lot of reading on things that I'm sure most people don't give two ships about. But that's that's cool. That's that's whatever. But I have seen over and over again that there is some connection

between extraterrestrial activity and Egyptians. I don't I don't specifically know that story or the history of that story, but I will say that I'm not be surprised if the symbols and signs that are in Egypt would show up on a spacecraft somewhere that is not from this Platt. I would not be surprised by that at all. Damn BORI where you at with it? I think he was a little idiot. I think he was. I think he was a small dullard. I think dullard. Oh yeah, it's

very good. I got a whole text thread. Uh No, I mean because Russian writing doesn't look like pictographs, right, doesn't hieroglyphics and Russian room is very differently. Even if it was Sanskrit like hieroglyphic glyphics or pictures, And if you're gonna reference something the hieroglyphics, you would know at least that whether or not you know what Russian would look look like, you would know that hieroglyphics look like pictures.

You're saying that to identify hyeroglyphics is a very specific thing and not can it can't be confused with any of these other sort of much more. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. It's a very specific thing. I mean, the only thing I've seen close is like that fine wind wingdings. Yeah yeah, and he definitely didn't have wings back then. Yeah. Yeah. If he would have said the plane, I think somebody typed, uh, can I go to the bathroom and wing things on the plane?

So Frank, Frank is like put your seatbelts one. So the last thing that i'll i'll I'll throw out for us to to maybe have a little bit of a debate about, because I've long been of the belief that the powers that be are not nearly as smart as I think some you're sort of giving credit to suitan I think you and I differ in this way that I don't actually think that they're nearly as smart as we often think they are, but they are very advantageous, and so a part of me thinks that they saw

roswell in this fiasco that took place, be it alien or otherwise, and it worked better in their favor to create conspiracy theory, which would eventually lead to like this cultuge, obsession and then eventually capital than it is to just allow the real version of the story to be left, you know, us to absorb and deal with. If that makes sense. That it's well, and now you know they have fucking spaceships that they turned into restaurants in this

town that otherwise wouldn't have been a thing. It's that's that's minimal television, but it's television. You think that the government covered it up so we can make TV You think the government covered it up incorrectly so we can make TV shows. I think that well, I think what I'm saying is that the government. Well, well, then called crazy because I am right now I'm telling you I think that that is. I think that in these situations they find ways to basically take advantage for the purpose

of our government, which is largely making money. I don't know that they need, like to be perfect, that's the money for the government, but it is. It's it's all come on, baby, it's all circulating, you know how money everybody gets. What are you saying, so that's just not you know, daddy gets the taste. I'm just saying that is a that's a lot of that's a lot of foresight for nineteen seven for them to drop a bumbass story, because in two thousand two the WB Network was gonna

have a show based on Roswell. Well, I think I think it was in development that whole time, and they were like, listen, after Steve Harvey Show drops, we got you. Yeah, Like, we're gonna do Steve Harvey Show. Then we'll do the Wayns Bros. And then we'll do a spinoff of The way Ins Bros. About the white character, and then Roswell just wait, we'll be We'll be right. Just got me patient. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't. I don't, I don't,

I don't. I think uh, I think it was too big of a mess for them to try to clean up, and they did the best damage control they could do. And I just feel like there's a lot going on. And I you know, I military science and just some folks that I know from the military and conversations that I've had. They don't have to be smart, but their technology as smart as fun and the things that they have access, the things that they have access to give

them advantage. Well beyond the dude, my cousin told me that the iPhone in your cousin in the military sense, I have to I can't say his name because we've got a lot of just say, somebody told me, somebody like my cousin that uh you gotta um. You know that certain technologies have been out in the hands of the militaries almost two decades before we've seen them on the civilian side. An example of that would be the iPhone.

Damn yeah. So like, yeah, there can be a bunch of dummies from whatever, but they have access that control and they have information that they can filter that never gets to us. So while we're thinking we know it all, you probably know like maybe a third of it. Maybe if maybe one that's been well, then that's what we doing this podcast for. Let's just wait till the military does a podcast about all this stuff. We don't know. They've been podcast listen opening, they've been podcasting for the

last thirty years. They've been they already been doing all right, yeah, yeah, man, all right, this this guy, Man, this got too heavy for me. I'm gonna need it. I'm gonna need to go and take a walk and and get a cold glass of water to to reset. We did it. I no I get some Crown World, I go get some bad whiskey. Soon enough, ude out of the freshest ride, Uh su time. Could you tell the people at home where they could find you on what cool ship you have going on? Well, first of all, again, thank you

very much for having me. It's been a pleasure and honor. You can find me on Instagram. That's the only place I'll be. I'm not on Twitter or Facebook because it's just too many relationships to have it one time. So I'm on Sigmon Jay south Side and Instagram. And I have another project coming out. I can't speak to it yet, but we're in the process of writing it. And UH keep us outside going and being funny man and contributing to the overall comedian culture that we need, especially during

these times. That's beautiful, So I love that, Yet Glory, could you tell the people that they can find you what you got going July? I will be at the DC Improv Lounge. Come funk with me there, uh July through sixteenth. That will be at Rumors Comedy Club in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. And UH watch me on the most recent episode UH your show Langston Pause with Sam J Hell yeah, yeah, watch watching bores he has. He has one of our more provocative conversations of the season. It surely is maybe

one of my favorite arguments that I've ever seen. Three adults have h please watch pause. It's it's on Friday's at eleven and as always or ten. I don't at what time it comes on. Fuck you. I don't pay attention. I just you know, I do everything I can and then I walk away into the sunset like David Banner.

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