"A Gift for Seal" with David Gborie

a child. No, not at all. But if it lines up that way, that's why you can't funk with me. I'll shoot the ship out that baby. Yeah exactly. I don't give a ship. I got three cars, but that baby baby. I got cards, but that baby ships racist money can't tell me. Yeah fuck yeah. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to another another exceptional episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep, so deep, put

your ass to sleep. We dive deep into the world of black conspiracy theories, and we make it our mission to prove that Jesus also wants Chris Tucker to start cursing again. Say nigga, nigga, we need you. We miss the Chris Tucker, you word, let those demons go. Michael Jackson is dead, Jeffrey Epstein is dead. No one else can tell your secrets. Just say nigga, we miss you, Chris Tucker. Oh boy, we have a phenomenal episode today. I'm your host, Langston Kerman as always, and I'm very,

very excited. I'm doing well. I have a bit of a tummy ache, but I'm not gonna let that deter me. I've been eating a fair amount of walnuts. My wife and I were trying to have a child together, and apparently walnuts helped me become more potent. That's that's supposed to help with my potency, which is not something I enjoy saying out loud, nor do I expect that you enjoy hearing it. But I gotta make my sperm strong, so I'm mean a lot of walnuts. My guest today,

I imagine he has very strong sperm. I don't doubt his sperm for a second. Seems like a man with a thick load, if you ask me, just a proud load. I don't know if we can still say that about other people in today's Hollywood, but we'll find out once he gets on the microphone. He's so funny. Uh, just fucking the funniest. He has a Comedy Central half hour that I love so much, one of the best I've seen in years. He has an amazing podcast called All

Fantasy Everything. He is literally the voice of Comedy Central after they throw the commercials for those Charman Bears. He is the one that brings you back. Give it up from my guests. So hilarious, David boy. Everybody they were worried, what's up, big dog? Just you know, proud, thick load heritage, just like the heritage. Yeah, just that goes back to Africa.

Really sure the Bories are known for their heavy, thick load. Yeah, they can't read, but man, you don't need to read when you need to read with a load like this spider Man webs everywhere. There's four million of us. Who needs to read. We're a fucking soccer team. I love that. Yeah, I love to hear it. It just gives me. It gives me comfort to know that's what you're working with. I didn't know that about walnuts. I eat walnuts. Yeah,

they're apparently they're good for you. There's other stuff that's good for you, and then there's like stuff that feels fairly obvious, like don't put your laptop in your lap because you're exposing yourself to radiation, or don't keep your your phone in your pocket because five G is gonna give your dick coronavirus. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

for sure, for sure, just the standard rules. I don't really know what five G is, if we're going to be completely honest, I don't think anybody does, which is why, which is why somehow we thought it gave us a cough. Yo, I think my phone has four G, is what I think? Oh nice, No, I don't know. It's no, it's terrible. I have a metro phone. I got you. The technology hasn't matched the service that you're getting. If you have Metro, you can't get Corona. That's a fact science. Yeah, you

tell your listeners. I didn't even do that. That's you think metro PCs. Sure that's gonna be in their commercials pretty soon. Oh yeah, that that in thick You want a thick load and never get coronavirus, then you need metro PCs. You also want a BlackBerry for some reason. If you want a phone that flips open still have weekend minutes. You want to wait till after seven pm to call your friends because that's when it's free. Then

you need metro PCs. It don't work in Canada. I do love that they throw that in where like, oh, by the way, in case you were about to travel, you poor idiot. You can't use this in Canada. You know what, though, I bet you it works in the d R m HM for sure. One do you know why? Because the Dominican man sold you that phone, and so he did whatever he needed to do to make sure that this service was going to make its way to the Dominican Republic. I mean should be told I have

a Dominican number just for tax purposes. Anyways? Oh is that is that actually true? No? No, God Jesus Christ, because I was gonna say, please don't say it on the podcast this. I know we talked about conspiracy theories, but I'm I can't protect you from anything. I no, no, no, my numbers, my numbers USA. Hell yeah, I know you guys can't hear it at home. But David just winked at me in one of that that had nothing to

do with this thick load. I think he was mostly focused on his secret phone number from the Dominican Republic. No big deal, No big deal. This is uh. I'm so happy you're here. We're gonna have a great time. This is actually a really fun, uh subject you brought to us. We talked a little bit briefly before this about what conspiracy theory you most bought into and the one that you immediately came back with, which I think is so interesting. You said, my mama told me there

is a black illuminati. Bro, tell me more. I'm excited. So I can remember specifically the first time I heard about it. I was living in San Francisco and I was at the Ace of Fades barbershop on Geneva and they were playing this YouTube video and it was about how Prince knew that nine eleven happened. Oh shit, Prince knew that it happened, or now it was gonna come he p. Yeah. I love the idea that Prince is just walking around like a king because he knew it happened. Yeah,

I think have you heard of September eleventh? Open your mind? It was that he predicted it, and it was like a YouTube video and it's like, do you ever see those videos where it's like the same announcer who talks like this, Yes, it was that, and they were like, this is an audio recording of prints four days before night eleven. And then it was just somebody going bush knocked down the towers, bush knocked down the towers. And then yeah, and then my barber, who was a Filipino

dude flagrantly using saying nigga, I don't know the rules. Yeah, well everybody else everybody else was cool. I don't I find in the in the northeast or excuse me, the northwest of this country. Nobody knows the rules. You guys don't have clear definitions on the N word, whereas I'm from the Midwest and like we have very stark lines, and you guys are like, I don't know, he looks like he's from Taiwan. Go ahead, say a good thing, man. I don't sixty percent of the Filipinos I know, I

don't know rules like there. But anyways, they played this, and then the rest of my haircut was just everybody arguing about whether or not that was actually Prince. Okay, that was That's what I was gonna ask you, did you feel like it was actually Prince in the recording

that's fucked up. It sounded like Prince Man. I don't know, like I haven't heard him talk that much other than singing, right, but to me it sounded like Prince And then ever since then, I'm like, I don't even know if I believe in the Black Illuminati, but I want it to be real, real, bad, right you why can't we have our own we could run ship. Oh you really just wanted to be to be there because you believe in black people. This is like, yeah, this is black empowerment.

This isn't any type of like No, I just think we could do it well as well. That makes sense. I think we should dig a little bit into just a general understanding of what the Illuminati is. Maybe that'll that'll lay a groundwork for this conversation. For any of our listeners who feel like they somehow don't know what the Illuminati is, I guess they've never been an old spaghetti factory. Then sure, Wait, the spaghetti factory has a

clear connection to the deep state. Look it up, bro, a new world order, talk to me about these things. What when you say illuminati, what exactly do you mean a small group of people who are running the bigger things. So all political policy you see an acted, there's no left, there's no right, there's only the illuminati. Right. Sure, all social trends that you see happening the illuminatis. It's just like the idea that the entire world is run by

a small group of people. Right. So in theory, when I decide to start wearing skinny Janes because I am seeing a trend out in the world, I'm thinking that this is like an independent choice that I'm making. And instead you're saying that this was dictated by a group of people who said, no skinny Janes will be in fashion, and they secretly have some motive that they are trying to cut off circulation in legs, thus forcing a community to struggle because of their commitment to little pants. Exactly,

it's not because you think it looks fresh. It's because Virgil and then I guess, Oprah, I don't know who all makes the cut. Those people want it that they sat down and they said we need them to look ridiculous in little pants. And I also, in my opinion, I think there may be some people who aren't black in the black illuminati. Go on. I think Bill Clinton could be in the Black Illuminati. Pause right there, I listen. I'm happy to hear this, and and I'm very excited.

Tell me why Bill Clinton might be in the black Illuminati. I don't think they let him in the white one. Mm hmm, thig number one. He plays the saxophone. Nobody in the white Illuminati plays a jazz based instrument that you can look that up. That's not me. That's not just talking sulking reads than they don't have the breath control for it. They don't White Illuminati like. So, yeah, I think Bill Clinton he's just real nigorous, just like in his dealings in general, he was hose like a lot. Yeah.

Here's the thing with Bill Clinton, because for years the black community called him like the first black president, right, he was simultaneously putting more black men in jail than than most presidents ever have, and so it became this weird dance of him being like, somehow the most down president while also the one that hated us the most because it be your own people, right, Okay, Yeah, okay, I see what you're getting at. You see what I'm saying.

What you're saying, I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying that's where he's at. Right. So Bill Clinton's potentially in the Black Illuminati, Yeah, for sure, for sure. Who else I think Bruce Lee was? Probably he dipped in because people love karate. Yeah, that's that's the only reason. Ye Okay, And they were just he was so good at at his martial arts that they were like, Bruce Lee, you're in. Yeah, Jim Kelly didn't want to do it, so right, you

need a weapon sky. It's like the Illuminati is much like a bank heist or something. You need a fully rounded team. I see what I'm saying, Like, you need different expertise, right, it can't just be a room full of entertainers. No, no, no, no, you need like you need like a weapons guy. You need you need like a tech nerd. You know, somebody who can do the flip off the top shelf. And then the tiny Chinese man. Yeah, you guys all know the tiny Chinese man we're talking about? Yeah,

from Ocean, Yeah and twelve and thirteen. He made it in all three. It's a whole series. That guy. He's living good, I hope. So I really liked he honestly, and it's hard to you can never it's it only feels racist to tell people. But he was my favorite character. But I also never knew his name really, so it was like a weird thing of being like, I like the Chinese one, Like, all right, who is that? I don't know his name? I like the Chinese Like, it's

not like you didn't like the Chinese one. That's the racist. That is the racist part. I could have taken the time, I guess, to learn what's behind the tiny and the Chinese if that makes sense. No, what are the other people's names in that movie? What are the other character's names? Uh, Brad Pitt, Yeah, exactly, Bernie Mack pretty good. You don't know any of those character names? Sure, that's fair. That's I know, Danny Ocean, that's it, and then the rest

of them are See that's fun. I thought it was Billy Ocean, Billy Ocean, different guy. Similar contributions to American uh you know culture, but yeah, Caribbean queen right. Okay, So so besides Bill Clinton and Bruce Lee, potentially you said John b also is a potential contributor to the Black Illuminati. I guess one of the questions I have are the things that really popped in my head is if white people in Chinese people are part of this

black illuminati, what is their contribution to this? Why would I want Bill Clinton in my black illuminati. I think it's one of those things where it's just like they generally accept that culture, maybe more than their own. Like they're they're invested in the black cloture. It's like like Gary Owen, where does you may call this money? Right? You know what I'm saying, It's like the same type of thing. Yes, it's people who have already they were

already with black people anyways. Sure so even by your argument right that, uh, if this is about the control all of the black community and and our choices, then the people at the highest levels of our entertainment, of our social progress, whatever, would ultimately have their say in what's happening. Thus a Bill Clinton and Guarry Owen of Bruce. I didn't say, you're saying Gary is not in the

black Yeah, I'm saying that time, okayte that down. If I could just pause for a second for my listeners at home. David wants to be as clear as possible that Garry Owen did not make the cut of the Black Illuminati. I assume he wants to be in the Black Lawn, wants to of course, he wants to be in the Black Illuminati piece of ship. But you are not welcome in our in our Black Illuminati, you ask whole,

Gary Owen, No, sir, this is fascinating. What do you think specific thickly differentiates the Black Illuminati from other Illuminati counterparts, because by your suggestion, I would assume that there are also now Latin next uh Illuminatis, and I think so the probably a Vietnamese Illuminati. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's cultural. Are they moving completely different? Are they just focusing on their people? What's the goals here?

I think about it like a u N situation where it's like every Illuminati has their own delegate that they send to the main Illuminati meeting. Right. Oh, but it's like it's like summer stronger than others, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, Chile is in the u N. But they're not like at the meeting swinging dick. They kind of sit on the side and mind their business right right, right, right, like like any any power situation.

So I think it's like that, like there are other Illuminatis, but like they're not as powerful, got you, So in this case, I'd have to assume, and it breaks my heart to stay at the Black Illuminati is not They're not swinging dick quite as much as we would like. Well okay, not as much as we would like, but I think pretty huge, right, just for the fact that American pop culture kind of dictates the world where we are a major part of that. So it's like we do too much to not have a place there, I

got you. It's not maybe what we would want. It's almost like a North Korea vibe where it's like, I mean you said it, no, no, no, come along with me. Okay, okay, I got not listening and I'm in the house. I got nothing to do today. No, though we we are by your suggestion, and this is not my work, this

is your work, David, by your suggestion. What what we're saying is is that the act Illuminati at these meetings, although not necessarily the power that we want to be, has to be taken seriously at all times, much like a North Korea in the world. Not to say that we are evil, not to suggest that we are somehow, you know, connected with dictatorship, but certainly just something to be feared if nothing else. No, I think that we have a bigger see at the table than just like

a wild outlier. Got you, you say what I'm saying like, I don't think it's like I don't think we're like do this or we'll bomb you. I think we're in part on decisions and stuff like that. I got you. You know what I'm saying Like, I don't think it's like we're not just like a crazy like we got W M D S or whatever. Like, I think we're an active part of the conversation. I like that. That's what i'd hope. I'm sorry I compared black people to

North Korea. Don't be sorry, Listen. Li's the writer's room. It's the writer's room that we're gonna project across the world. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, there's nothing wrong. Listen. We're not the first people to equate black people in North Korea. We won't be the last. Boy, Do I hope that's true in either direction? Do I hope that's true. Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back

here with more. My mama told me, and we are that. Yeah, we're back here with more, my mama told me, And I am still here with David Boi, hilarious, hilarious comedian who was telling me more and more about the deep, deep, deep conspiracies conspiracy rather of the Black Illuminati and all of its comings and goings in the world and the damage it's doing or help it's doing. I don't know with black people, do you think they help people? I think it's neutral to be you know what I mean.

I think it's like like any government or anything like that. I think some things are very positive. I think that some things are very negative. I don't think it would be fair to say that they're ultimately helping people, because look, via the prison system or whatever, we're still in bondage, right, So it's like they're not like killing you, you know what I mean, They're not killing it. Yeah. I don't think they're doing great period. I don't even think they're

necessarily doing a good job. I think maybe better than they were. Okay, So we talked about this, but I did some deep diving. I did some research on the conversation of the Illuminati and specifically the Black Illuminati, and I want to share some of the things that I've I've dug up and hopefully you have some answers, because, honestly, more so than any other episode that I've had thus far, this one left me with more questions than real answer.

That's what I'm saying. It's deep, It's deep. It's very deep. I did hours of research, and I mostly came up tie aired and uh a little frustrated with the information I was pulling. So I personally didn't know. Let's start here, I personally didn't know that the Illuminati is a real thing. Do you know what I mean that? Like, okay, okay, okay, wait, don't tell. The point is, I had no idea that

the Illuminati was real. I I thought that this was just sort of like a fantasy thing that people had made up over years and years of like spreading rumors, whatever. But the Illuminati was actually a real organization that was created in seventeen seventy six, the exact time of the

birth of the America that we know. So seventeen seventy six, this dude, Adam West Shopped, a German lawyer who believed strongly in enlightenment and ideals, specifically created the Illuminati to promote these principles of like enlightenment among elites people he had deemed elites in society. Is that not what I've been saying it is, it's what you've been saying. And but even scarier part the Illuminati as we know it, as the organization that was technically on record, only lasted

ten years. Five The Bavarian government shuts it down because they basically say, we deem all secret societies completely illegal. You are no longer allowed to illuminate or enlighten. You must shut this ship down. And they basically claim from that point forward that the Illuminati no longer exists, that it is yes, and not just the government. Everyone around them is saying, like, oh, the Illuminati. It's as if the police showed up and we're like shut the party

down and then everybody went home. Do you have any stats on member ship before that happened? Great question. I was digging into the membership, which apparently, as it was originally created, it started with like six to nine dudes. They were mostly basing all everything that they did off of, Uh, what are those guys? The Freemasons. So they wanted it

strictly guys. They wanted to be like elite dudes in the world who were free thinkers, and UH particularly were opposed to UH like sort of living in the past and following like tradition and more interested in infiltrating organizations for control, so like the infiltration of politics so that they can then you know, decide how votes are are made and shipped like that. And did they study politicians.

I don't it. So that's the part that gets messy, right, because they start with six to nine dudes, but then they intentionally target the Freemasons, which is already an organization by this point, and they start pulling their members. They'll like show up to Freemason meetings pretending to be Freemasons and then trick those Freemasons into joining the Illuminati and

coming back and becoming Illuminati members. And so there's all this speculation about by the end, in that ten years, it moved somewhere from six to nine dudes to six hundred to undred people, but still very vague on numbers, very vague on numbers, but they've accumulated exponentially more people than they had when they started. And then last question that I have for the origins, so the Freemasons operated in Germany or they went out to the world and

did that. I think the Freemasons were all over because a lot of our like UH founding fathers are connected to the Freemasons. A lot of like big historical figures and spaces are connected to the Freemasons. I think the Illuminati specifically started UH in Bavaria and then moved other places in theory, so what we have is possibly an international network of possibly people they just iced, right, the

Bavarians ice, But then there's people all over the world. Okay, yeah, come on, And that's the crazy part, right, you know as well as I do. You can't get people to just stop doing some ship, you know what I mean? When under what circumstances could someone show up and be like, that's illegal, and all people are going to stop it all over the world because if it's all over the world, it wasn't even their government. Why would but they said it, they said they exactly, so they make this they said

no more. And so for years no one really talks about the Illuminati, right, they pretty much go completely underground. Nobody's saying shit about the Illuminati, although for years other things that sort of happened in the world started to be connected to the to a possible illuminate the relationship.

Like when the French Revolution happened, a bunch of people started saying that that might have been because of the Illuminati, that the Illuminati started the French Revolution started, the the people uprising against the name, okay, like they were there, yeah, or that they picked the day and said, well, they had the big one. I think I don't know. I'm not a historian, I'm a I'm a nigger who did

some Google searches. Very exciting. Hey, thanks, Well, this is where it gets even more interesting because they keep connecting it to weird ship right, Like even there's evidence that George Washington even mentioned them in a letter one time where he basically, you know, sevent nine George Washington writes this letter about the Illuminati where he speculates that the threat had largely been beaten, where he basically says like, I know a lot of y'all are talking about the Illuminati,

but I assure you the Illuminati is dead. It's gone, it's not the thing anymore. Back into after they got busted. But that's what started to spark up more of the conversation because everybody's like, why the fund is George Washington talking about the Illuminati. If the Illuminati isn't real, if it's not here anymore, then why is this motherfucker thirteen years later telling me it's not real? That doesn't make sense. What's that hamlet ship the lady doth protest? Yeah? Yeah,

that lady's protestings protesting a little baby. She's a little faith George doing features for two million dollars, He's a little baby. Uh So he wrote that letter to who It's not clear. I think it was just writing, you know, have Twitter whoever? They didn't have Twitter back then. I think you just needed motherfucker's to talk to. Yeah, you just got to air it out. You're like, hey, you know what's crazy? People keep talking about the Illuminati. I

don't even they ain't even real. No more fun now and then and then reading a lot of carrier pigeons about this Illuminati coming back, and I want to assure you all you're mistaken, all right, So he wrote that letter and he was like, no more, no Illuminati, And like many you know, sort of conspiracy theories, it's the most dangerous thing, and we see it now every day. Right, the most dangerous ship you can do is to tweet

about it. Right, whether you agree with it or disagree with it, you are giving it power by saying this ship is real or isn't. It doesn't matter. You're telling people that you think that it at least has some relevance in the world. And so George Washington sort of

reinvigorated its relevance. And then in the nineties, a whole bunch of other companies and writers, specifically of this one dude wrote this book or see reads of books called the Illuminatis is like a series of books where he basically is like historical fiction, but it incorporates the Illuminati and they become like this major player and controlling the world. And then all those Dan Brown books with the you know, the fucking uh yeah and so the Illuminati play. Have

you read it? Did I read? I read the It was the first one the da Vinci coulde. Yeah. I read that in like two days. It's like candy. It's so much fun. Oh, I haven't read any of them. My wife told me I should for this podcast. You want me to read out of here? Who are you the Illuminati trying to make me do stuff. Black Illuminati, Black Illuminati, you said it was, so it was. It was quiet for like George Washington said it, and then it was quiet for like a couple hundred years. It

was pretty chill. There's not a lot of evidence of people really talking about the Illuminati. And then some authors started writing about it, and that starts to spark a bunch of ship now here in well, these were more in like the sixties and seventies. Yeah, and so here's where things get crazy because we're talking about the black Illuminati.

And I kept asking myself, well, where do black people come into this, because up to this point we've only been slaves and then dealing with like fucking you know, Jim crow era and civil rights ship, Like, there's no way there's a group of black people benefiting from this too much. But then in America at least, but maybe to your point, there's some ship, Like some motherfucker's in Nigeria are like rubbing their fingers stuff anyway, So yeah,

where do that's the good question. So the big, the big introduction to the Illuminati, as far as I can find, is it comes through hip hop. Right. Prodigy is a great example in the nineties, a whole bunch of rappers that Mr. Dre's Prodigy, a whole bunch of people start saying wild shit about how the Illuminati is trying to control me, the Illuminati trying to destroy my family, Illuminati don't want me to eat at night whatever, right exactly, And so it becomes this thing in hip hop where

everybody is basically equating the Illuminati to the oppressor. Anybody that's doing bad too black people is the Illuminati. Then artists start to make, Artists start to make some money, people start getting rich, and so it transforms generations. Right, jay Z comes along and he starts saying, nobody controls me. I'm a motherfucking boss. And then people like Prodigy, C jay Z saying shit like that, and he's like, this nigga is in the Illuminati. This nigga's got too much money,

he must be in the Illuminati. We were just as good as him. Why the funk is he so rich? I mean vice? Right, yes, alcohol exactly, but any but yeah, deal with your addictions, Prodigy. But maybe maybe it's a secret society. So what you're saying is we didn't start talking about a black Illuminati until black people got generational wealth exactly. Damn. Black Illuminati did not exist as far as we could see, until people starting to make enough money to feed their kids, starting to feel real crabs

in a bucket of Yeah. But the exciting part, the exciting part of your argument is that maybe there could be a black Illuminati in part because we saw what generational wealth did to create the original Illuminati. That's what I'm saying. Yes, like we weren't operating at a level where it would even be a thing necessary, right until when of black people first start getting generational wealth, probably

truthfully the century. Yeah, you know, you could argue there's there's people in the nineteen twenties who started to really build resources that would ultimately lead to like greater success, So that that's fair, yeah, right, because you also need people who have been generationally enlightened or whatever to that, right,

and most of their parents were slaves right until. But now it's like we're at that point right where people are like my parents parents were wealth right whatever else, which is like that is just yeah, we just got into the game, I think. And so there's no reason to your point that jay Z couldn't call Oprah and say, hey,

I I want to change things around here. We should have a meeting where we wear dark cloaks and decide what the fuck you know black people are going to get to do today or get to read or subscribe to That's what I'm saying. I think it's realistic. Also, power corrupts people. The more powerful people get, they do crazy ship. Have you ever seen like those pictures from the Rothschild party? Yeah, it doesn't seem nuts to me

to think that. Maybe, Yeah, like J and B are putting on deer heads, absolutely, Oprah and whoever else, who else has got money like that? I don't follow money. Kevin Hart, Ludicros, Ludacris has that much money, right, He's got like as do the money. Kevin Hard is for sure, Yes, for sure. You take a hundred million dollars or whatever he's worth plus short man complex. He's beating down the door. I like to think they didn't let Kevin Hard. I

totally agree. I feel like Kevin Kevin applied like four times before they finally were like, funk, we gotta let him in. He's just he's too good. He's too good, He's got too much money. I know he's not Maybe he's a bad guy. We can't really tell, but funk, we gotta let him in. Here's my question. For real. They come on your door, they're like Langston, Yeah, we've heard the podcast. You listen to Light Skinned Feelings. We

saw we love Insecure, We see you moving around. You're a strong, married young black man upward least socially mobile. You give us your firstborn. You're in it, you know, it's it's a tough question. You don't even have to give it to them. Your kid just has to Like I just have to spend summers at Oprah's house, or I have to indoctrinate my child. Yeah, you have to. It's like it's not like a literal giving over, but from that child's birth, its whole soul purpose is to help.

And with that. Let just so I'm fully clear with that. I don't really get to choose what happens to my kid. No, but you get, you know, all the benefits of the Black Illuminati, re cuts, haircuts for life, a boost mobile phone. Luticals wants to know. Ludicris just checks in on you. Yeah you are. You're a brother to him now and he needs to y yeah, yeah, and like and like and better business dealings and stuff like, like the stuff like that you would get from being in a white

fraternity or like the schools or something. Yeah. Right, it's a similar that I feel like i'd be a fool not to mostly not because I want to be in the illuminati. I actually think that they're probably really bored, do you know what I mean? Like, I don't actually, well, I've always heard this rumor, and maybe you've heard it too, that like, uh, rich people in general just like reach a point of wealth where they stop even enjoying things anymore,

and it just becomes you doing ship. Like I've always heard this rumor about Jamie Fox playing naked basketball with his friends. Yo, I heard about that too, Yeah, I didn't hear about it is with his friend, I well, friends, enemies, I don't know, with potential sexual conquer exactly, but he like makes them play. Everybody that plays basketball Jamie Fox's house has to do it naked. And you're not doing

that because that's the best way to play basketball. You're doing that because your soul is numb in a way that requires you to need to make something that could have been fun by itself a level more exciting otherwise you can't get hard anymore, or you can't play against the picking roll. So you want to take that, right, I'm not setting a pick on no man new and no picks in my game. Take your motherfucking pants off.

Yeah not, We're not playing that Harlem globe trotter. I like the idea that Jimmie FOXX plays real, like fundamental, like no flashy bass. Oh he's just straight, straight pull up shots. He pulls up, just doing the bounce path. That's for sure. He is fundamentalist ship. But he doesn't believe in the pick and roll, because that is the most that's offensive one over here, right, I don't need you guys playing your urban basketball and Jamie Fox's court.

I don't know I would join. I don't think that. Here's the thing, Black people have been that rich yet that we have you think, do you think that happens, like even if you're the first person in your family to get rich, to get that well, I don't know. I think I think to your point, it probably requires generational wealth. And I do think that part of my fear is that if you don't join your they'll cut

you off from generational wealth. That like this is and either you're with us or against us kind of vibe. So you get the offer, you don't get to know that they exist and then just go about your day. They're offering it to you because like either get down or lay down type ship, you know what I mean, the state property exactly. It's just like that's just why I watched that movie. We're gonna take another break and we'll be back with more mamma told me, and we're back.

I'm gonna kill you. Give me two, all right, We're back here with more of my mama told me and more. David boy, we are talking Black Illuminati. We're digging deep into whether or not we would commit ourselves in the Black Illuminati, and whether or not the Black Illuminati would kill us if we don't. Yeah, that's the real question. I don't think they'd kill you. I don't think they'd kill you. I think you're right though, you're gonna be

the best. The best your kid's gonna do is like Hunter kyear tops, right, which in today's economy is uh, it's not enough. Yeah, and imagine tomorrow's economy, right. You got to plan for the future, your father, Now, Yeah, that's fair. I've been eating all these walnuts and my father. Now, yeah, yeah, you're potent, man, you gotta pass that on. I would join. I think I would join, man, I think I would join. Do you have any Do you have any fears about joining?

Is there anything that that you're particularly afraid might happen if you joined? I worry that I would do some ship and get kicked out. Oh, that you'd be like the bad boy of the Black Illuminati. Bad boy is not maybe the term I was thinking. No, you'd be like a j You'd be the one that wears the hat. And yeah, I'd be the one who got drunk a lot, is what I mean. Like, I'd be so uncouth that they'd be like, come on, man, well you can't be in the Black Illuminati. Andy hot Dogs from Costco. Like,

you have to pick right. You have to upgrade your life in a way that that matches the lifestyle of your of your your Tessa Thompson's Oh did she make it? I would assume so she's in everything. Now, Yeah, that's true. If you're in everything, If you're in everything, you made it. Janelle Mone she's got to be in the blacks. She talks about free thinking too. Yeah, a lot, a lot, like more than you would think a person who thinks freely.

Does You know who I think wants to be in the Black Illuminati and it drove him crazy that they wouldn't let him in is Terrence Howard. Because he's a he's a liability. He's too much of a liability. He's a he's crazy math. Come over here with new math talking about flowers. You know, he thought Empire was a documentary. He doesn't even know that it's filmed. There's no way that you let Terrence Howard. And because he gets a vote, he gets an equal vote like other members. I think,

if anything, they are the ones who canceled them. Like, okay, track with me on this. I'm following. Go ahead, Jesse Smollett ship, you set that up? Okay? Why was that a thing? Right? He was doing fine, Jesse, Jesse was doing great. He was it was only going to get better for him, it was only going to get better. He's you think he's handsome. He was sexually neutral in a way that allowed him to flow freely between spaces

and ship. He could kiss anybody on anybody, anybody. I think the Black Illuminati takes him out as a message to Terence Howard, get off our nuts. This is what we did to your friend. We don't even care about it. You can see what we'll do to your son. We don't get a funk about you. Give a funk about you. This was them sending a baby finger. That's what it was. Just smaller is the horsehead in the bed. That's just like, get your ship together, clean up, or we'll comfort with

doing interviews. I think that's why it was only that g Q interview the Quincy Jones did, and then they were like no more, right, because Slacy Jones exposed a lot of ship. He said, who killed Kennedy? Yeah? Remember that? Yeah? And everybody forgot because he was like, I was the Richard Pryor used to fuck Harry Belafonte or whoever he was, Marlon Brando, and it was like, oh, I guess we're gonna focus on that one because that seems wilder. That

was what. But he never talked like that again. Right, it was just that interview and he was like on like some comeback ship, like no, this is a new Quincy, like this is what it is now, this is a new I'm checking me out, I'm telling secrets and then it was just done. It was just that one article and then nothing else ever happened, And like, how else do you what else happened? Then with with Quincy? He shut the funk up. That's what I'm who did that.

John Legend maybe Legends, definitely in the black. He might be second generation. I don't know. If I don't know the Legend family like that, sure is his name Legend for real? I don't know. I honestly have no idea. I'm gonna say yes, just because it's more fun to believe that John Legend is a real human being and that he didn't just make this up for his own ships and giggles and whatnot. Oh no, it says his name is John Roger Stephens. That's lame, because of course

his name is not John Legend. That's crazy. But imagine the hubrists to name yourself legend because he had already he had already been tapped by that black illuminis. That's what I'm saying. He was friends with Kanye. Kanye was friends with jay Z. They saw the talent, they saw the potential generational wealth. He doesn't hit me as a guy who grew up in like the hood was struggling for for money. So I don't think he's ever struggled. He's never struggled. He married a beautiful Asian model. He

also dog. You think he got Chrissie Teagan, that's a gift. Bro brok like yo, you don't like they made her in a lab before him in Like, find me a picture of christ Teagan before could find it. I'll shut the funk up now, I'll go home, don't go further into your house. Yeah, I'll take my shoes upstairs and of Christian before I can't find it, and I'm not gonna look for it. That's what I'm saying. They set up all these booby traps. That's why people fall off.

Birdman was supposed to get a billion dollars, right, they can't have that. They and it's because what what did Birdman do that blew him from this position? Because that's what I hear you, and I agree with you. I think that the Illuminati is making clear decisions about who they want to be winning and who they want to

be losing. Neo was doing fucking great for a man time, and then at some point they exposed that he was bald on accident and that he wasn't the talent that they wanted him to be, and they blew up his whole spot. I can't pinpoint. I I just don't know how to pinpoint where these these choices are coming from. Well, that's because we're not in the crew. We don't there's so many allegiances and you don't know. I'm just saying all I'm saying. Quincy Jones said, Tevin Campbell is one

of the most talented artists he's ever worked with. Everybody says it, baby face said it. Uh, they were playing them all on every radio. He was in the Fresh Prince. He was the beautiful young boy and a fresh prince who got to kiss Ashley before Ashley was a grown up. He kissed Ashley Banks, and he didn't go on to make a million dollars. I don't know the numbers, but who did. Nobody knows Ashley Banks besides bro Come on, that's crazy. That's like, have you ever heard can we

talk like at nighttime? You ever heard that song in the dark? There are very few songs in in this world that don't get old. Like every song sort of has like an expiration date for your soul, your ears, whatever it is Can We Talk will last as long as the statues that they're trying to tear down. It will last be when this world caves in on itself and it's swallowed by the son above us. Can We Talk will be the last song that everyone listens to

as we fall into the apocalypse. Who are you telling, bro? I think that we should put it on a cassette tape blasted into space, just so people know that was something humans did want. This is our greatest contribution. This is what you put that in, Like Lebron James in a spaceship tell the world and aliens. Aliens are gonna hear it and be like, well, this must have been a god on this planet. They might this man must

have he must have accomplished everything you can accomplish. And we're like, nah, he had like three hits and then we made him shut the funk up. Yeah, he had like a weird little comeback with a goofy movie. But no, but nobody really associated with him. They just called him by the character they that's I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense to me. A lot of people, a lot there's so many people I think got blocked. Bochim Woodbine. Yes, hell yeah, talk talk Why didn't that work?

Why didn't that? Are you kidding me? Amazing talent? Talent? Where is he now? I think I got more Twitter followers in book. I don't even do anything, bro, I could barely read. Are you where is Woodbine? And why isn't he being welcomed back into the Black Illuminati because he ran a foul of someone? Right? God, you're making sense to me, man. This is hitting me and all the sweet spots that I like to be hit. I'm telling you, man, if it don't make dollars, you know

what I mean? Like? And that's the other thing about the Illuminati is I feel like they pluck. You don't have to be good, you just have to be willing, right. That is something we've seen historically. They let you funk up. We've seen some of the most elite of the people who we all agree or fucking Illuminati members just do horrendous. Kanye West is constantly fumbling a bag. Terry Crews cannot hold onto a bag. For for dear life. I haven't trusted him ever. Sure. I don't like I don't like

muscles that have wrinkles in them, that bothers me. Nope, nope, no, right that one fucking tell me. Also that whole headship, his whole headships? Are those tis sweet? Are they not sweet? I can't tell because they got all these ridges that I you look like you look like a ruffles chip, and I don't like he looks like a crumpled bag of Doritos. You look like you were not sold this way, And I don't care for it, and I wanna we gotta fix it. No, you can't trust him, but he's

still here, you know what I mean? Well, Smith, how many albums after he was bad at rapping and put out style, he made the Miami video. He made that whole video, and then he somehow figured out a way to make us listen to his son be just okay, It's stuff. And then he made us listen to his daughter be just okay, It's stuff. And now somehow they they've elevated themselves to being good at the thing that they used to be just okay at. It feels like manipulation.

Jade has got to come to bring herself to the red table. Now she's gonna admit that she's been having sex with a young boy and all why Will Smith was reading scripts that aren't gonna work out, but he still is rich. That's what I'm saying that all this being said, watch me on this joke up and here on Quimby. It's a stand up show starring Will Smith and myself. We got to hang out. I'm doing some good bits. Some he did welcome me into the Black Illuminati. Yeah,

like we hung out in Vegas for a weekend. It was pretty cool. He's got a drone. He said, if I bought some new clothes and cleaned up my act, I might be able to hang out more often. But yeah, I didn't believe it. The point is you can funk up. You can funk up, you just can't like you can't not be with them. And I think if anything, bochim Woodbine was just he was too strong. I think there's a moment and even we're going down the boking Woodbine train.

Alan Payne, hey, that was a dude. He America couldn't get enough of Alan Paine. And now he's doing Tyler Perry like sideshows Doug beautiful, strong, great voice voice. He did comedy, he did drama, He did it all well. He did all that wasn't he in Eve's Byou? He was? He was No, not Eve's by You? He was in Jason's lyric ly they both were in Bayou's. I think it was. It was a lot of them standing by swamps with secrets. Yeah, and I feel like a blue

tint on the Yeah. But anyways, Alan Payne, Yeah, there's no reason, there's no reason, not at all. He should be on this show next week. I hope he does it. I'm gonna ask. I bet he's available. I got a good failing, we'll get out of pain. I had another game plan, but I actually think that this is a more interesting game to play with. You. You host a very fun podcast called All Fantasy Everything. You guys draft

stuff in your podcast. Who are your favorite Black Illuminati members or who do you think, more importantly are the most powerful members of the Black Illuminati? Okay, so there are two things for me, right sure? Because first of all, much like a lot of black issues, there is colorism in the blacks. Right, So, who are my dark skinned

Black Illuminati heroes? Here we go? I like to think there's like a dark skinned hit squad, much like the Gestapo, like a Black Illuminati, dark skinned you got the faces, but then you got the money and uh yeah, I got you. And also these are like the hitters, like this is like like who who's gonna be? Who's gonna be in the trailer after Terence Howard? Does it take? And to be like no, you're still out, Like that's what I'm talking about. That's hard man. Yeah, because now

I'm just going over my rollodex. And many of these black, these dark skinned kings are too strong, too strong, too strong. They were like Wood Harris, No, yeah, Wood Harris, he's not going for it. I like to think, Jiman Hansu, that's a good answer, Giaman Hansu. One is in the illuminati. If we're talking about a gift, when did you and Comoral Lee Simmons link up? When was that normal conversation? What did he say? What did he get it? You know?

That's trying to do that. Don't leave me challenge to get a super seal. That was my next one. That's the gift that that's that's a gift where somebody was like, hey man, thank you for your contributions. We we sent Hatty cloone to your house. And he doesn't even seemed particularly charming. No, honestly, he seems very dry. Yes. Also, I knew this girl who worked at a bank out in the Palisades. She's, man, I'm gonna get I hope

this never comes out. She said that Seal would just come in like every few weeks with a twenty thousand dollar check that he would cash cash in person. Oh, he'd take it straight to cash, straight to cash. Jesus Christ from different Yes, So what a weirdo? What an Illuminati hitter? Right? And what arrogance your Seal? You have an assistant? Also, you don't have a bank account, Bro, he's gotta cash it. There's there's gotta be a baby Seal you can send to to go do this work

for you. Is there a baby Seal? Oh? Seals steals got. I think he has babies with Heidi Cloone. I'm almost pretty sure that they had kids together. Good for him, man, Yeah, for him. I'd like to think what's his name, Brian Tyree, Oh, Brian Tyre Henry. Yeah, I think that he could be. I think he could be in there. He seems like he's he was recently initiated. Yeah, same with Daniel oh Kalua Daniel Klua, I think recently initiated. I think a telltale sign of people suddenly being in the Illuminati is

how often we see them and ship. Yeah, especially when you went from never seeing him. Yes, it doesn't make sense a lot where you're like, how did the guy from the reboot of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventurers get a Spike Lee movie? Right? What do you know? What? I mean, what are you doing in the Joker movie? Why? Why are you here? Yeah? How are you there? Paul? And now you're in the Malcolm X reboot, the SAMs SAMs fishy. I don't know about it. I don't know

about it. I'm trying to think what was that? Three? I mean one more? I think like that's why it was so late, her kind of ascension to where she's been acting her ass off forever for once he finally got down and then, uh, who's the last one? Oh? I don't know, but I would hope that Grace Jones had made it in somehow. Oh that's nice. Yeah, I just really like that energy. Yeah. I don't think that we often consider the people who are no longer hot names or with us and all that. I think it's

mostly that I think it's mostly that. Sure, you're only white hot for so long, but you're Illuminati money forever. Ride. As long as you commit and you stay committed, you can stay in the Illuminati forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't. You don't get kicked out. I don't think many people ever got kicked out. Well, that gives me great comfort to know that strange A is forever and always going to be protected by the Illuminati. Well, this

has been great. I've had a great time. We've learned a lot, we've explored a lot, we've made up a lot. We'll probably get sued, but it's exciting and I had a great time. David, can you tell the people at home where they can find you? Oh yeah, my Twitter is at the Gus Silent. I'm not really on Twitter anymore, the cool guy jokes Sadie seven All Fantasy Everything Podcast, Watch my special and then, uh, you know Will Smith

don't cancel me. Yeah, his special is great and he took one of the funniest videos with Will Smith of all time. Would hijack It's very funny. Well, this has been another episode of my Mama told me. I'm Langston Kerman. You can find me at Langston Kerman on all the twitters and the Instagrams, and that's pretty much it. Thank you all for listening. Good night, okolmayers are racist. He also players for mostly money versions of men Altney stuffering. I can't tell me about my