Keshia Chanté Plus One: What It Takes to Own Your Story

And then I saw Michelle and she's like, Keisha, come over here. I need you to meet my husband. And I was like, is this the moment? And so then she introduces me.

To Barack and he was like, I heard you were on the My wife was on your show.

And he's like, my daughters.

Yeah, He's like, and my daughters are big fans of you in the show. And you know, Michelle thinks she's really cool, but I have to ask.

You, is she really that cool?

That was Keisha Chante, award winning singer, TV host and one of the few women to transition from teen stardom to lasting success on her own terms. In this episode of My Legacy, Keisha sits down with her mentor who helped shape her path, Stephen Hill, for a conversation about reinvention, resilience, and knowing when to walk away from what no longer serves you. It's a masterclass and how to stay grounded while rising, and how the right mentor can change everything.

Welcome to My legacy. For our new listeners and viewers, this isn't your typical celebrity solo interview. This is a show where remarkable people pull back the curtain and bring along the one person who's seen their story unfold to highs, the heartbreaks, and everything in between. And today's guest has been a powerhouse in music, in TV, and entrepreneurship since

Yes, the man, the myth, the legend, mister Stephen Hill. Stephen and I met when I was very young. I was sixteen, actually I think a little younger than that. Yeah, sixteen, and he's seen me along the way, So I felt like he would be the perfect person to be here as my plus one, because not only is he a mentor, but he's a dear friend. He's incredibly intelligent and creative and has been a trailblazer in his career and in his craft, and he just constantly inspires me.

So and everyone loves him.

I do want to start with Keisha, because I know that you were raised in a multicultural home. If if I understand correctly, your mom is Portuguese, your dad is Trinidadian. Yeah, how would you say that that experience shaped you as you were going out into the world.

Yeah, I mean so, I was born in Ottawa, the capital of Canada, a very political city but a really beautiful place to grow up in. My mom's family immigrated from Portugal. They're also Hispanic as well, they're mixed, and then my father's family immigrated from Trinidad and Tobago. And just even the school that I went to, nobody really looked like me. The only people that I really related to were my family at home. But when I went out into the world, nobody looked like me, and it

But I'd go to school and they'd be like, what's wrong with your hair? Are you tanned? Why are you not like? You know, So there were a lot of shocks that went into play.

But my parents are so incredibly loving, affectionate, support, very honest with me. They had conversations with me very early on that you know, I don't think parents usually have with their kids. They kind of wait until they feel it's a safe time to do so.

But also being an only child, there's a different.

Magnification, so to speak, on every move that I made, because you are raised with pride, but you're also raised in a sense where you really want to make your mom and dad proud. So I just felt like I wanted to be the best at school, the best at home.

I just wanted to make them proud all the time.

But just at home, it was just always full of music, family, good cooking, singing, dancing, and.

A lot of inspiration.

But home was my safe place, so it sounds like they were both, but particularly your mom was very deliberate because what you just said, and I don't want to skim over it, you know, to point out, oh, I love your hair, I love your so that you already fortified. What she was doing was fortifying you because she knew more than you, that little keishaself, what you were going to face into the world. And so that's the beautiful gift of deliberate intention.

That she offered you.

I know she also, you said, gave you some tough love.

Oh yes, my mom especially she's my biggest fan but also my biggest critic. So when I told her I wanted to sing, she said, anything you want to do in life, you can do it, and you can be amazing at anything, but you have to be willing to do the work. And even if you're naturally good at a particular talent, you still have to work for it. Don't just expect it to come to you. As long

And in those days it was VHS. The pausing and then the breakdown.

Of like that note was off, let's discuss why it was off, and then having to rewind it, and then's a little and sitting there and then and then starting it over again. It was a lot. Okay, as a six year old, it was a lot. But you know what, it's good to be. It's good to be able to see yourself.

Six year old as a six year old. That is a early that's given feedback you.

Oh yeah, she was like, oh, you want to do it. Okay, let's do it for real. Then it wasn't I couldn't just it wasn't at my leisure. It was if you make that decision, you're being intentional, then you have to be great at it or else nothing else.

By the way, that was such an interesting window. I appreciate being so open and so candid and talking about that. Okay, So you said that Stephen is one of your mentors. Okay, So let me turned to Stephen just for a quick second. Here you cut your teeth as a radio host, yes, okay, and then you move over to be et. You became pretty iconic and shaping some of the key moments there.

Absolutely, el Roy arc Smith, who is a legend in American radio who was worked in Boston, Dallas, Chicago.

He was the first person.

Who really believed in me as I when I when I was cutting my teeth as a weekend person on the on the air. He found me and brought me to w I L d AM in Boston, and he was just.

So immersed in radio he did.

So when you were mentioning what your mom did to you, that's what Elroy did to me. After shows we'd go through, I'd I'd take my shows, I'd go into the office with Elroy and Elroy would would push it would push the pause. But like, here's how you could have done that better. Here's like what were you thinking when you did that? And so they're called air checks, and we did them with you when you were when you came

To make yourself better. So Elroy, Elroy Smith.

Was really my my biggest mentor. Even when I got to got to TV. I just learned from from him. It's always about the audience.

And I love how you're both pulling back the curtain here because you know, people see you global superstar now, Kisha. But to realize at six your mom was hitting or Stephen, you know, incredible, world famous producer, but to pause and realize someone had to lean in and literally hit pause and give you that tough love feedback, like it isn't by accident that both of you ended up as successful

And the amount of reflection always.

That's one of the things I'm already hearing in your stories too, is that to really take the.

Time and reflect.

Now, when you were a little you didn't know how to do that, but your mom, you know, made sure that you were reflecting, and you know your mentor. And I think that there's a space for all of us in our lives to reflect on what can we improve. Let's let's look at that. So that's one of the things I'm already taking away from.

Martin Zotti's head, going, yeah, does someone else give you feedback in your life? Every now that I know my wife does.

Oh yeah.

So I'm gonna say say it would love.

Cause you when you first started out, there were barely any radio stations in Canada that actually played the music that you've sang. Yeah, now when doors weren't initially opening for you as an artist? Yet, what helped you to to actually move forward and continue to want to develop?

Great question. I always remain a student.

I remember being thirteen years old and being discovered and having to go to the record label, and there were a few people that really believed in my talent as a singer and wanted me to make R and B music and go in the studio and record these songs. But then we'd go in these meetings and the labels at the time were like, there are really no thirteen year old artists and we don't have R and B radio stations, and like what are we gonna.

Do with her? And shouldn't she be in school? Like where's her chaperone?

It was like a lot of red tape, and I felt like I had to very much audition for my contract.

So I remember my first day at the record label.

For example, Deborah Cox walked in and she happened to be there that day. I sang for her and she was like, you can do it. It's gonna be hard, but if you really want it, you can make it happen. And seeing her gave me this glimmer of oh, I could do it too, which was really nice to see that representation because there wasn't much of it. And then I just felt like I needed to remain a student. So I would sit in the office at business affairs. I would sit with the radio team, the marketing team,

Felt like, this is the grid of it all.

But I was told as a little girl that I literally could have anything in the world if I worked for it. So the idea of no, even to this day, like no doesn't exist. There's just another way to ask that sounds like mark.

True.

So we definitely it was a lot of fighting. It was a lot of fighting. And then I remember the first record it got.

Picked up by the DJs.

The DJs were playing it on radio shows at radio stations that did not play R and B, and they would mix me in yeah slowly and then people would request it, and then eventually it ended up I think like number one or number something like, Yeah, it was number one.

Or about what age At this point, I.

Was thirteen, thirteen years old and Shante's my middle name, so I was still going back to class and no one knew Keisha Shante was the student sitting in their class cause I kept it a secret for as long. There was no music video for that single, so no one knew what I looked like at the time. But I remember being in our little cafeteria and someone actually was playing the song.

And I thought it was a setup.

I was like, do they know, are they gonna like harass me or tease me or something?

But they didn't know. And then yeah.

I was like, okay, well we got to keep, you know, advocating, And I think, I just it's just relentlessness.

You would think that at that age you would have been shouting and running up and down the hallways at school to say, hey, I have a record. You know, I'm fascinated about this because our daughter a lot of times at school, like she will go and speak in front of almost a million people literally and then go to school and be like this, well, what you did this weekend I saw in an indoor pool. And she's the only child too. Were you intentionally not sharing with your classmates?

I think, and I don't want to speak for all only children, but at least from what I can take from it, when you are an only child, you feel separate from everyone, You don't feel a part of the group, and you have a lot of alone time. I say

When you're an only child. You don't have any visuals of that. You only know what it feels like.

You're taking the cookie and then you get yelled at, but you don't have anyone else to compare anything to. You're just kind of figuring it out on your own.

It is.

It's only like ten percent of the population I think are only children.

So there's that.

But I found it almost embarrassing, like not shy, because you can put me on a stage and I would perform, and I used to go to the principal's office and be like, can I host a coffee show and talent show?

And can I sing?

I wanted to sing as much as I could in school, but once there was that kind of attention, it was I'm like, am I not going to be accepted? Am I going to be separate? Am I I don't want to act differently? And then people not.

Want to include me, or while I get bullied or I don't know. I think you just you just don't want to be separate. You just want to You want to blend it.

As much as fascinating is helpful to me as as a mom of a only child. Yeah, and another thing as a mom that I appreciate. Is that your music is always age appropriate? Yes, and so is that something that you are intentional in doing well?

As a little girl, you could not get me to sing any lyric that wasn't real, Like all the lyrics were like at school, met a boy at the mall, like very young, but also having my mom at the time as my mom and Jeremi, my mama does not play.

She is a force.

So she was with me every day and she was very much like, she's not wearing those heels and no, she can wear a little tracksuit, thank you.

Like is that skin? No, she's not doing skin.

So I had her always there and that was good for me to have that. But I've always been very like vocal about what I.

Think is right.

So it's a little girl, I would tell you right away, like, no, that lyric doesn't register with me.

We're gonna change that line. Yeah.

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You've had an incredible, incredible career. I mean just looking back at the fact that I believe fourteen you recorded your first single. At sixteen, you were opening up for Destey's Child.

Yeah.

Wow, what was that like?

It was insane because as a little girl I used to sing Destney's Child because I had no siblings. I was Beyonce Kelly, which which song?

Which song was like your go to emotions? Okay, but I would run during the chorus, I would run and try to change my outfit and the next part. So doing that show was so cool.

We had the same publicist at the time, which was like a huge honor, and it was a forty five minute show by myself with my dancers and minutes by myself I had to do.

So that.

Was longer than what's average, right stea where.

I hadn't.

Yeah, but that was their last show as a group on tour, so it was emotional for them and then I got to meet them.

They were in there, they.

Were and they were young when they started, so what did you learn from them in the process.

I just think that.

Their attention to detail, their professionalism, their obsession with the craft, like they go out there and it's one hundred percent. But even just over the course of my career, you know, meeting them and even Brandy Monica Aliyah, they inspired me a lot to TLC.

But from them it was just their work ethic.

So, Stephen, with all of these young artists that we're talking about, right, so Destney's child, Brandy Aliyah, what you've worked with young artists before? What what advice would you give to young young people, young artists in particular as far as integrity and authenticity as they are wanted to break into the business.

So as you ask that question, I'm thinking whether I gear my answer to the artist or to the artist's parent, because the common theme is at least one parent who is meticulous about making sure that the child is protected. I think that's the most important part. Don't lose your childhood. There's things you're gonna have to do that you're you're going to have to work very hard in a way that other people don't, but don't lose the playful side.

It can't be just just the business.

The people I've seen who are most successful have are able to strike that balance. Sometimes the artist wants to be kind of more focused than than the parent, and it doesn't want that time away, but it feels it just feels like there's a need for playfulness, and some who don't, who haven't had it, regret it later in life.

That problems.

I like that you're not in your.

Head any regrets, you know, my regrets, Like I didn't go to prom, I would say, not being able to go to college because I was on tour, and I mean my career was I was, it was a successful time, so it didn't make sense to stop living my dream career to go to school.

But I wish I did. I still I'm still going to go, but it just it got so busy that I missed that.

Because again, being an only child, that's the only community.

Of people your age you're really going to have.

So I felt like I was kind of separated really young, Like thirteen is when I started to be busy going on tour and whatnot, but also traveling a lot, still turning in my grades where I eventually got homeschooled, but I just missed like going to class and having recess. And I still to this day I feel very childlike. Like a lot of my friends are like, you're such a big kid, and I'm like, yeah, well, when your childhood gets snatched away, I mean I chose it.

Though I chose it. My mom used to say every day, are you sure you sure you want to do.

This, because you know, like the other kids are doing this, And I'm like, yeah, but I will think about the possibility of the if if I don't, you know, get a chance to do it.

You didn't go to prom, but did they play your song at prom?

They did.

I started at twelve, so I totally appreciate what altern of high school, the whole journey. So I totally get that, Like I understand that I can at a very young age. I get the responsibility aspect because you know, like by fifteen sixteen, we had dozens of staff. By that point we had a global operation. Say yeah, it was an

He is not done so many songs, but at sixteen.

You were fighting for control of your master's. Like you gotta take us back a little into the mentality, like where does that vision come from? And that kind of ownership mentality which is not always the norm among artists.

Yeah, well I come from like my grandfather when he immigrated from Trinidad.

He was the one that he owned the only like.

Restaurant club in the city that was like Caribbean food.

My grandmother was cooking.

He ran the business in Ottawa and there was nothing like it at the time. So seeing my grandfather do that, and he had multiple businesses over time, and he you know, had a taxi company. So I would be like ten for Roger that I try to do all the dispatching when I was like eight. But seeing that kind of spirit, like oh, you could be your own boss was something

Are mechanical royalties? And like what are what is this publishing?

Like?

I was very curious about all these things, and they would give me the real tea on what all of it meant. And then I got enamored and fascinated with the law aspect of the music business. And then I realized that all my work was really just it would be in vain if I didn't have some sort of ownership of it.

So I got kind of fixated on this.

Well you say your own company up at sixteen.

Yes I did.

I did, yeah, because I started to think like, well, we're employing people, but how are we having more like control over the details, and how do I feel more safe in what we're doing if I don't own a company that does that. And I also thank my grade six teacher, mister Pratt, because he was the only black teacher in our school, but he was very who He would sit me down and be like, listen, the world is this type of place. I need you to be armored and geared up, and the one thing no one

You will get it back again. And yeah, that was my school of thought. Would you say he taught English teacher English? Yeah?

Amazing. And Stephen, looking back over your incredible career, what's the decision you made that felt like a major risk in the moment but ended up opening doors for your patn.

Wow, I feel like there's a lot.

There's a lot, so there's to spin the wheel. The new Edition story was something a lot of people thought was going to be was risky. It was at the time we did it twenty sixteen, fifteen sixteen, it was a large undertaking. There hadn't been a h a biopick done.

At BT before. There was some belief that.

That, uh, the target audience would not be served by a by a by a biopic of of like all men, because we were very women focused. But then we all came to realize, oh, that's that's a new addition's entire audience, and it's really I have this whole thing once once.

Once you're a child or you're a teen.

Idol, you will you Will Live and Eat Forever. Right Backstreet Boys in Sync had gone on tour New Kids in the Block still every two years goes out and does arenas, and so that was that new edition was our was ours But it was a risk because it was it was it was a large amount of money and uh, we didn't know how it would come out.

We didn't really to.

Be stars in it, but it turned out to be an absolute blockbuster.

Will So also you actually did you you created one O six in park.

I was, I was, I was in the room where it happened. The show was always constructed to be uh, to be entertaining, but uh, but but give information.

At the same time, it was the hosts were were uh.

Were well read, educated and of the culture. So it was really important because at that point in time you could not you did not see uh black youth on TV every day or even regularly. So it was important we took our role and in doing that, really we knew we were leading culture, but we also wanted to make sure we were reflecting culture as well.

Is that because you were, Because as we've learned from your story today, you were already impacting young people kind of mentoring them. So did you then when you were thinking about at the when the show was being created, did you intentionally bring that aspect to.

Absolutely?

I mean AJ was AJ and Free were the first host. AJ I knew. I wanted someone who had gone to an HBCU like and it was, and that was it's a it's a it was. AJ was a great find, like a needle in a haystack, very personable, but you know,

Park was supposed to be well in this is an amazing host of one O six and Park, one of them is sitting here of course watching it to coasting it insane like pinch yourself. Was there a moment that you realized your dream had no come true?

Absolutely?

As a little girl, one O six of Park was all I had, like it was the little slice of culture I could get where I was living. I couldn't get it anywhere else, so I remember being like, especially where we lived at the time, we didn't even get the channel. So I had to like go to a friends and see if I could figure out how we got the channel. It was a whole thing, but one O six in Park was the slice of just you felt represented, and you felt seen and heard, and you

Remember Canada was so excited. But at least for me, I just I.

Every day I would get on set, and what people don't realize is there's a live audience who are allowed.

As heil.

Okay, There's a DJ who is playing loud music during commercial break.

You got your in ear people talking to you.

You have the teleprompter that sometimes is being retyped live as you're reading this line, and you see the bottom is changing live.

The audience is loud, the DJ is crunk.

You're literally like, oh my gosh, it is you feel like you're hosting in a nightclub for kids.

It was insane.

It was insane, and then somewhat like guess that would come like they would blow my mind.

You know.

There was one of the most insane days of my life was I came into my dressing room and there was a letter from the White House and it had like the White House stamp and the name and everything.

And I remember I was in my dressing room trying to listen to.

See if bow Wow got it, because he walked in his room and he didn't say anything.

So I was like, ooh, I think it's just me that guy.

So I was like, let me open So I opened it and it was like not a QR code, but it was one of those things you scan it and then it's Barack and Michelle Obama saying, Hi, we're so.

Excited to welcome you to our White House Christmas Party.

And it's going to be on this day. I hope you can attend. And I spent the entire day. I didn't tell anyone. I didn't want bow to noecause I didn't want him to be left out right, So but I was so excited and I also remember like all these men in suits going through our drawers and our closets and I didn't know, and then they just like, oh, Michelle Obama's coming tomorrow.

That was secret Service checking.

Out in your room.

They just didn't tell you you'd find out the.

Day before you'd have like the biggest star on the show. So it kept you on your toes. But sidebar I did end up going to the Christmas party, and how was it?

Well?

When I arrived, Babo texted me and was like are you here?

Ah, He's like I have no one to go with.

Can we go together? And I was like, so you were invited as well. But we had the best time. And then I saw Michelle and she's like, he should come over here. I need you to meet my husband. And I was like, is this the moment?

And so then she introduces me to Barack and he was like, I heard you were on the my my wife.

Was on the show.

And he's like, my daughters, yes, and my daughters are big fans of you and the show. And you know, Michelle thinks she's really cool, but I have to ask you, is she really that cool?

And I was like no, everyone loved her she's the coolest ever.

And he's like, she's I And I'm like, did the President just say I.

I love here? And I was like, anyway, this is bowow y'all love him. I always tease him, but yeah, no, it was that was for me.

That was a huge moment for me and also was so inspiring.

And then to interview Michelle, Yes, I mean you don't.

You can't get any more.

There's no inspiring than that. Now, the two of.

You, I mean, you guys have been the White House dozens of dozens of times. Is there one moment especially from uh, from your experience the White House? So you want to share that?

I do think like one of the most special ones for for me was when we had the opportunity to bring Yolanda into the Oval Office to meet with President Obama. So of course we had been with him many times before he invited us into the into the Oval Office. Wow, to see the bust that he had had placed there of her grandfather, Martin's father, So it was it was particularly interesting just to be there and to you know,

About not only that moment in the White House and in.

The Oval Office and what he represents, but to be there with that bust and also to see you know, him taking the intentional time to talk policy, you know, with a with a little one but.

Funny story speaking of only only children.

It was a bit of a negotiation to get her to go on that trip. That same day, her school class was taking a field trip to go to the capitol here in Georgia. So she was she was like, oh, but Mom, they're gonna ride the train, public transportation, and they're going to meet they maybe even meet with the governor.

So she was trying to decide should.

She take this is a true story, So she take Marta for those of us in Atlanta, and take Ma. Didn't go with her class to you know, to the capitol which we live here in Georgia, you know, because wanting to be a part right, she wanted to be a part of her class, so that to her and belonging was more important than going to meet with Barack Obama in the Oval office. But she ultimately chose, she chose to go.

And asked him a really good question.

Yes she did.

Yes, Yes she is.

She's a powerhouse.

Yeah.

Coming up on My Legacy, Keisha shares what makes Steven such a powerful mentor and why everyone needs someone like him in their corner. If you're looking to step into that role or find your own person, keep listening and if someone's been that kind of support for you, subscribe and share this episode with them as a way to say thank you. Now, back to My Legacy, I want.

To ask you you said this even believed in you before anybody quote unquote really knew your name. What was some advice or one major piece of advice that he gave you? And with humility did you listen to it? So, Steven, you have to hold her accountablet here.

Oh boy, Well, the way we met was interesting. I was already seeing success in Canada, but not really stateside. It was like you were getting a little, like little remnants of it. But the dream was always to be on BET. But at the time, it wasn't really common for Canadian acts signed to Canadian labels to be on American television. So at the time I the song was on it was bad Boy, the song was on the radio. We had a music video was doing well on the network and a different network and not BET.

It was a Canadian network, not yet.

And I was It was the Urban Music Awards in Canada and I was nominated for things.

But I still had this feeling of like isn't there more to do?

Like we're doing it here in Canada, but where there's a whole world out there. And then I met Steven and I remember he walked up to me at the award.

Show because I had come up from BETBT it's yeah VT Canada, and I was up doing some press that day, and I went to a radio station and they played bad Boy, and I was obsessed with that song. I simply loved how it moved, how she sounded. I had never heard it before. I asked him to play it again on the radio. They did, yeah, And so it was really just by fortune they played that, and then I somebody pointed her in the audience when I was at the Urban Music Awards and I walked.

Down and he walked up to me and was like, I've been hearing your name and hearing your song, and I love the song and I would love to have you know, the video come on to BET. But his belief in me sparked the label to spend more money and get you know, Major Little X the director. Now he's Director X, but at the time he was iconic

I was like sitting there as a little girl, like we must do it. I go back to the label.

I'm like, guys, we have to we have to do that whatever he says, we're doing.

Poise. Poise.

Poise is what you call somebody who is there but really beyond their years and has a calmness and an understanding of the world that that that is uh, that feels like they shouldn't have it at this young age. So I felt about Keisha Chante. I remember the first time. I can tell That's why I can tell you exactly where it was.

She had.

A confidence and so everyone told you meet somebody like, oh, they've been here before. There there's there's a there's a there's a feeling there.

They acknowledge that.

They shouldn't that they shouldn't have and that that that word poise And she's continued to exhibit that as she's as as she's grown. I had no I knew exactly who I wanted when there was an opening for one O six in part I knew exactly was we went through a whole bunch of visa.

Issues and could talk about that now because visas are a thing.

But.

So and we will be ending the segment.

Stephan.

After leaving be et, you started your own production company, incredibly successful. Of course, what does success mean to you today?

Success is the people that I poured into, especially when I was in the corporate world, having them flourish, right, having Keisha flourish. There's so many people who work behind the scenes at BT on one Park who are now lead producers. They're running Tyler Perry's Unscripted, their award Emmy Award winning directors, and so.

Even my current.

Success is in the success of people who who I got to work with at the beginning of their careers. And success is also kind of being able to go to the beach when I wanted.

That sounds like a balance, Lie, That's what I love about the show is we get to really peel back

Thank you, thank you, and I'm grateful to all of you. First, you two creating the WE organization. I have to tell you that was my first time ever being on stage talking about my mental health in front of a huge audience, and it was such a beautiful place to do it, and I was so supported that it genuinely made me feel safe and comfortable to continue speaking about that. And then getting to finally meet the both of you doing

There were so many emotions.

I was like fired up, I was happy, I was so I it was an honor to have that moment with you guys, and just you four are incredibly inspiring in what you do every single day, and you do it at a level that is just incredible.

So I want to walk that walk and I will.

Be harassing all of you and then my mentor Yeah, I mean I I drive him insane, and but he he is the reason why I got into television.

It's his belief in me that even allowed me.

Didn't know that was something I was going to do next, and it's been an incredible career.

So I am very grateful to use one conversation. Thank you for joining us.

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