We go together like Grease!

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to this week's musical lyrical lingo.

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<v Speaker 1>We're your hosts, tim and LJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Today and every week, we will be talking musicals and specifically what they taught us.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so raging.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying my best there to do that intro without looking at the script and I got the first line out, had a freak attack and then looked at the second.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm so annoyed I was like right, there's always next week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the week that I can actually do this really straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so annoyed for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no, because she said to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I was like no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine the host fight?

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<v Speaker 2>That said, okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the panic stations, would you?

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<v Speaker 2>would have been introducing a completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, I'm so annoyed with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, I might sound a bit croaky this week and I might have a coughing fit in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I finished youth project, where we were putting on a show, in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Finished it on Saturday, woke up on Sunday with a lovely cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a bit bunged and a bit chesty, but apart from that all good and enjoying a bit more free time.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm sure you feel like your summer has actually started.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a little cough just to get a bit of symphony Symphony from the viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is going to go really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a good job that we've got some help.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have to apologize because I was listening back to last week's episode on Billy Elliot and it's very clear that I was in the middle of the project and I was very tired because I was talking nonsense at different times in that Billy Elliot podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I said Inquisical at one point, very Inquisical Inquisical isn't the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, right, okay, I think the word I was looking for was Inquisitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right.

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<v Speaker 1>Inquisical is not a word.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it sounded lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for that, but I wasn't the only one that slipped up, do you?

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<v Speaker 3>know what you did?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I do In the last?

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<v Speaker 1>it came, one of my friends contacted me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Weaving herself because she was like I'm just listening that she's just moved to a new house in Amsterdam how lovely and she was unpacking her boxes and building furniture and she felt she needed to send me a voice note today to go just listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point Lauren says Do you know what you said?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I take semi blame for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said coat hanger at one point.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly listen back.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I know what I did, say coat hanger, but then I lift my eye.

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<v Speaker 2>See, if this was filmed you would be able to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was saying oh, you knew what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I knew what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I swear, I swear, I knew what I was saying and that I said like a real coat hanger Uh huh, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>But you were too busy in one of your reshpies that you were looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably half asleep, lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>To be quite honest with you, I don't know if I'm taking that as an excuse from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is being recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've owned up to my full powers.

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<v Speaker 2>Here come on.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not precious whenever I say something wrong, like I think we all know.

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<v Speaker 2>If I know I that I definitely definitely will admit whenever I say something wrong, but that I was definitely making a mockery of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh well, oh well, oh well, let's move on to this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like what I did there?

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<v Speaker 1>Love it Sublime.

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<v Speaker 3>Sublime Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to this week's musical, shall we?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you're not wearing any pink.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not wearing any pink, um no, and you're not wearing any leather.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I left my chaps at home, just say the musical really quickly before people turn off.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We are looking at grace this week, the phenomenon that is grace.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a huge part of, of both film history and musical history, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's got a real hold on people, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>100%.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, um, shall we uh do a bit of background on grace, then Go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is one of um what people say like the magic trio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the uh where somebody wrote the music lyrics on the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more, tell me more.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's Jim Jacobs and Warren Casey, um, and then some songs were added by John Farr is that right, yeah, um and yeah, so it's grace.

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<v Speaker 2>The 1950s um USA blue collar youth subculture known as greaser.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where the name grace comes from yeah it is a musical that is set in 1959 at a fictional high school called Rydale High in Chicago, and it follows 10 working class teenagers though that's debatable if you look at the age of them, considerate.

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<v Speaker 1>none of them were teenagers playing teenagers, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It follows 10 working class teenagers as they navigate the complexities of peer pressure politics, another political one, personal, core values and love.

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<v Speaker 2>So it started in Chicago in 1971, then moved to Broadway in 1972, west End was 1973 and I think out of all the musicals that we've done so far, it's the most revivals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, would it be right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a money maker, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>So if producers are wanting to make a little bit of money, then you're far out of e-grace, don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Every so often?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, it's had eight revivals when some like came, you know, within a year of each other, like it's just a wee bit, a wee bit rental.

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<v Speaker 1>And that first Broadway production when it finally closed in 1980 after its 3388 performances, it was the longest running show in Broadway history at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was nominated for seven Tonys and two Olivier awards, but I don't think it won any actually.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think it did.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't a critical success but it was certainly a fan favourite, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we have the film which has the lovely John Travolta and Olivier Newton-John, and I thought, but what?

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<v Speaker 2>Is lovely about the film is a lot of these guys actually play parts on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so John Travolta didn't play Dammi.

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<v Speaker 1>No, when he was in the Broadway production.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is it Doody?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he played Doody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he played Doody Jeff Conaway, who plays Konnicky, and I think he plays a great Konnicky, but he was Dammi and I do think that he should have been Dammi Do you reckon you're not a fan of the JT, the John Travolta.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was just I think it would have really made the film have a different edge to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, you don't think it was runchy and risky as?

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, certainly it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly, is that I?

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<v Speaker 1>mean when you look at what it deals with, teenage pregnancy, peer pressure, gang violence, things including love, friendship, teenage rebellion, sexual exploration during adolescence and, to some extent, social consciousness and class conflict, like it's mental.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can see why when kids get very excited about what we're wanting to do it in an amdran sort of situation that adults need to be very careful like 100%, do we do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or like what are you doing these things?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any children under the age of 18 should be touching that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but anyway yeah that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to tell you what Grace taught me?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Grace taught me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a long list here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, a long list.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace taught me that smoking was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Greasy hair was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to kiss and tell, as long as it's in a song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls, walk with your breasts, push forward, no matter how awkward it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Men are rats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, you can blow smoke into teachers' faces without consequences, because that happens in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would love to see you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, though, if you want to look cool, you should smoke.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing more shameful than being a virgin.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that was.

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bit horrific when you think of like this is everything that I have picked up from Grace and I have learned from this show your friends just wait till you leave the room before they make fun of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sandra.

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<v Speaker 1>Day and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing cooler than smoking is smoking while drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, you learned a real life lesson there, hickies aren't tacky and embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I didn't even know what a hickey was until I saw Grace and apparently the hickeys were real like so the hickeys that Kenicky gave Rizzo?

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<v Speaker 1>He actually just gave her a hickey, like it was a makeup stinking and that your guardian angel will show up once you screw up your life sufficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>So panic not.

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<v Speaker 1>When we all screw up, there will be the guardian angel there to make things right.

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<v Speaker 1>And a happy ending means changing yourself and compromising your morals for a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What a fantastic show we're talking about this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tricky one, because in one hand you want to say, oh, it's a great musical, because it kind of gets people singing, dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great musical because of the, the music's based on rock and roll, so the soundtrack's real rock and rolly and curl.

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<v Speaker 2>But the storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness and the actions and the suggestiveness, and it's oh, it's a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, but enough about me, because we're not here on our own, so it's not all about us this week.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we have special guests, so I'm going to introduce today's special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Very special.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have one, we have two special guests today.

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<v Speaker 2>And here they are, say hi, guys, hi guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good, we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>So for those that can't see, because, again, we're not filmed yet- I'm not ever filming.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're inside us.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just blur your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who's the cheeky one in the corner?

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<v Speaker 1>Introduce yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Caitlin, and who's?

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<v Speaker 4>the other one, definitely the cheeky one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and I'm Jamie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and how do you guys know?

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<v Speaker 3>us.

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<v Speaker 3>Um well, who's my sister, Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>have to look that up.

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<v Speaker 2>She was flicking through your book there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, who did I know?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know my sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm your sister, I'm your younger sister, uh-huh For four and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, yep Throwing that in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Just throwing that in there, and then obviously no.

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<v Speaker 3>Timmy three stage ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all my life.

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<v Speaker 3>She's another stage ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Babe, mm-hmm, back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jamie, what about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I met you tell me, I think, was it maybe 13 years ago, 14 years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>That's making us sound really old, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys and Dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first one, Guys and Dolls.

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<v Speaker 1>You were my baritone mate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was only three of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, jamie's mom from the story then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, jamie has been mentioned, just without a name yeah so.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie is my baritone chum.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, and how do you know Kate then?

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<v Speaker 1>Um, well, I know Kate.

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<v Speaker 4>Um, again, just through shows, doing shows, um, we happened to play opposite each other in uh High Society.

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<v Speaker 4>They were two of the leads and now we're engaged and have a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah and uh yeah, so that's how I know, laura, and them as well, because Sister and all.

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<v Speaker 1>Family connections.

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<v Speaker 4>Connections.

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<v Speaker 1>Some musical theatre brought you two together.

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<v Speaker 1>It did.

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<v Speaker 3>And a big love bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna book yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good, I'll read the day I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting the author out.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, love it, Love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the reason we have these two on today is to talk about our musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got quite a close link to this musical this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace, the look of sheer panic and modification on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the reason why we chose them, because, you know, our podcast is really real, you know, and we don't always have to love everything that we talk about, but we also want to be able to talk about real life.

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<v Speaker 2>And whenever you're in amdram and stuff and you guys are connected to this musical, which is do you want to say it, grace?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are connected.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, because we were very lucky enough to play Danny and Sandy in the opera house in 2018.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it was about 2018.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Before good old lockdown.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think that was one of my last shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For a reason or.

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<v Speaker 4>For a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, shut up, it was probably my best work, but that's the thing, though.

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<v Speaker 4>It was probably the best thing about the show it and the direction, but as far as the show goes, especially for an amdram, it's Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a lot you could say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the easiest to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, do you have any musical lyrical angles for Grace?

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie, you do, don't you?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, I think, going back, Grace was the first musical I ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, as an outside of Disney movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But Grace was the first one I watched.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember dead Irish dancing and I don't know what age I would have been I wouldn't have been very old, maybe six years old or something and we were all taken up to one of the dance teachers' houses and we sat down and we had some munchies and we watched Grace and I was blown away like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I remember being like I love this.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever this is, this singing, dancing thing, Wow, I'm not going to get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>But so there's quite a lot of like musical lyrical angles for me in that show because there was a lot of references I heard for the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>But the one that sticks out in my head is in Grace Lightning in the second verse when he sings a balamena dashboard Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought for years it was a balamena dashboard.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Love it the fact that Palomino for anybody that doesn't know is actually a horse.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reason they mentioned it is during the 50s and 60s, I think, like Palomino, leather was the rage for colours.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so it was like the classy thing to have and it's the colour it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that old like goes from like cream into like tan sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's Palomino leather.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, not Balamina.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Balay, Very different from Balamina leather.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>So see, Lauren, clearly we're not the only ones that make up our own lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I mean, I think Grace Lightning is definitely one that people just make up lyrics to, even now, like because obviously we well, we listen to the soundtrack and the cast recordings before we sort of prep, and even when Grace Lightning came on I was still going na na na na na na na na na na na, like I don't know the words.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a word.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea where the words are.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember reading it just ago about.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably would be great if I could remember what the lyric was.

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<v Speaker 3>But John Trafalter couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept mixing his tays and peas, so it was either heap.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept saying heap.

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<v Speaker 3>Aww and the director was like no, it's heap something, something light, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, he kept on changing it around.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you actually watch his mouth on the movie, his mouth isn't doing what the singing is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept him just and he was like as if he was tongue tied.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so he never got it.

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<v Speaker 3>He never got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>The director was like I just kept it in because only they themselves would have known.

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<v Speaker 3>But they just couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept saying heap instead of heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so, yeah, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So if John Trafalter can get, it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We all get tongue tied every so often, don't we?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually do have loads of misheard lyrics for Grace.

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<v Speaker 2>So in summer, lovin' I always thought and it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran by me, got my suit damp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at Sudan.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Got my Sudan.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think Sudan was something Was?

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<v Speaker 2>something I don't know oh right okay, got my Sudan.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it in my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, like no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we were always told the wrong lyrics whenever we did those little snippets in Stygico.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think, looking back, it was because maybe some of the lyrics were rude for the change, because in Grease Lightning, which is completely different, You're not going to do the naughty lyric, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, chicks, will we always sang scream yeah, but it's not scream.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's cream.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I didn't say the full thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just said that.

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<v Speaker 1>You said enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You said enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all know what they were trying to get at.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's the same with that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the one they.

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<v Speaker 4>The other one they change is isn't it Pussy Wagon, yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you?

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<v Speaker 4>see Wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we change it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm not so sure we did, although I think there's also like two different versions isn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah so.

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<v Speaker 3>The same with like.

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<v Speaker 3>The lyrics also are different in um, look at me, I'm Sandra Day.

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<v Speaker 3>In the movie she sings about Elvis, but actually it was meant to be another person's name.

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<v Speaker 3>I did write it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You're totally right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have that somewhere, but I can't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think originally they were trying to get Elvis into the film.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were trying to cast him in one of the roles, maybe Vince Fontaine or Johnny Casino or even Teen Angel, and that didn't happen, so I think they nodded to him in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a picture on the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have been in the movie Teen Angel actually yeah, he would have been an awesome role-driver yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I found it.

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<v Speaker 3>It said know how she says the lyric Elvis, elvis, keep that pelvis for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was meant to be Sal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do a learn here and not say this correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Runs in the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Sal.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm just an ex-exo defensive Sal Sal.

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<v Speaker 3>Me-no, my-no, me-no, I can't really remember.

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<v Speaker 3>M-i-n-e-o was popular, but now I'm mostly forgotten, and the words were no, no, no, no, Sal me-no, I would never stop Stip Solo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's loads of really cool facts about the film, because they're two different things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at Grace, there's Grace the musical, the stage version, and then there is Grace the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the stage versions are different, like the most recent UK tour of Grace.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to say I nearly didn't recognise the show because there was songs that I've never heard before.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point it was almost like Grace Cross with West Side Story, because the T-birds were like like a fisticuffs gang and there was a song about bashing someone's head in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like is this Grace?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it's really weird, like it's weird that a show would have so many versions.

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<v Speaker 4>I think originally when the show was written it was a complete parody like the whole thing was a pistic.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why at the end of like, even in the movie, the car go up into the sky.

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<v Speaker 4>It's taking the mick out of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right actually, I think, because it started as a fictional, like you said, but then it's like a fictional high school in Chicago to kind of represent the blue collar greasers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where we get the grace from, but it's kind of tries to follow up here.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to show peer pressure on the values of teenagers, but in a comical way, but it just didn't turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>The comedy side never really came out and I think also the original plan was for the film to be an animation rather than a feature film.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's animated at the beginning and I love those beginning titles, like they're really, and you could see how it could have actually been an animation as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, a feature film was probably the better choice there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the same with you, jamie, with the Palomino dashboard just grease lightning in general.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole glossary of mechanical parts I had no idea about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still don't know what the four barrel quads are or fuel injection cutoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are muffler twins?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody know any of these car parts?

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<v Speaker 1>Not me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I take my car to a garage and I hand it over.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you just started singing grease lightning, or whenever you're dropping your car off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, clip some of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you fix the?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>know one of your.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got this.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought all those quads were like innuendos, so the muffler twins oh, that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we don't record new podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I would have taken from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows, who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anything else we've learned about grease from you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>As in my fun facts, or just us, being From the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So anything, any life lessons you learned before we move on to our connection to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I would the other one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that really sticks out.

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<v Speaker 4>For, again, it's the first time hearing some of those references that we all know, like is in Sandra Day or at least in that scene that leads up to it in the movie, like there's a lot goes on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dessert wine first time ever hearing about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what's?

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<v Speaker 4>What are Twinkies?

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<v Speaker 4>I?

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<v Speaker 1>had Twinkies as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know what Twinkies were, and that's actually quite a funny way to write.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when they say it but like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dessert wine.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's the other one, cuddies?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I didn't know what cuddies were for years after that actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Always had cuddies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it turns out.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what cuddies are?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it like herpes?

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<v Speaker 4>No, so cuddies was like it was originally a lice, it was like a body lice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, that was fine.

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<v Speaker 4>It became popular in in peoples vocabulary after the First World War, right, okay, and then kids then started using it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they described it for like a slang for like head lice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And then after head lice, then kids started using it as like this mythical disease Okay, that you could catch from the girls and you kissed them in the boys and you were like too close to them, so yeah, Because it's in hairspray as well, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's got cuddies, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go, you know, I didn't know cuddies either.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually forgot cuddies is referenced in Greece, and even Husandridi.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Husandridi was yeah that is very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at me, and even I.

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<v Speaker 4>I could.

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<v Speaker 4>Does anybody know what year it's supposed to be set in?

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<v Speaker 4>It's set in 1959.

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<v Speaker 2>1959.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why the Troy Darmish thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think they did a movie together and around them, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And for anybody who doesn't know that's listening.

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<v Speaker 4>Sandridi was married to Bobby Darm.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not know, I did not know, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's loads of name checks, isn't there?

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<v Speaker 1>Like even Doris Day?

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time I ever learned who she was, not the time she was such a massive American actress and then and then you discover Clamity Jane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll talk about that another and another podcast, but yeah, sorry we're not doing Clamity.

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<v Speaker 1>Jane, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I resigned.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had to do Oklahoma, then we're doing Clamity Jane.

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<v Speaker 2>So no Clamity Jane, then it's on the list, oh Right but we're not doing that now, oh God so you know, yeah, so Troy Donahue it was.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of films in the 1950s, so then it was the 1959.

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<v Speaker 2>If we were talking about Sandra Day, we're mentioned in well, give me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it talks about virginity.

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<v Speaker 2>That was obviously the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd heard about virginity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that uh lousy with the virginity and talks about Rock Hudson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, but it says like even he turned for Doris Day, but it was just because of the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was pillow talk, lover, come back and send me no flowers for the movies that they did together, where they really convinced the audience that they were in love.

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't know what rat um rat hair means.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't drink or swear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't rat my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually, you've just done a twizzling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually teasing in a back home technique to give it a bit more volume at the root sir, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that's why we love a bit of musical theatre sometimes Onto your links then to grace and why we've invited you to this particular podcast this week.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously you've said that you had the wonderful pleasure of playing opposite each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we did, we did and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a show that obviously you're very thankful.

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<v Speaker 3>When you do your own drama you know to be considered in any role or chorus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great because those three months of rehearsals and then doing the show it's you get that thrill.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was one of those things of we both got the part and we were like this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Then at the same time then you read the script and you go oh right, on my part alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I just it's very wet, doesn't that for a?

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday is the most boring human being I've ever met in my life, and I mean, and again, not just in this because you're sitting here to me, but the thought of me not getting to do any of your choreography was so upset, like I was at every rehearsal with GMI and everybody's doing dance routines and I sat on the stage like I don't get to do anything because in the musical Sandy doesn't attend the dance.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in the movie she does.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So she actually supposed to sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we not throw you in?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I actually very cheekily asked you in the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>She cried, she didn't cry she threw the biggest hissy fit I've ever experienced in my many years.

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<v Speaker 3>That point drew you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I just read through that script thoroughly and was like it would not change Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like it would not change the plot if I was in that dance, like it wouldn't change the scenes after and it wouldn't change the scenes before.

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<v Speaker 3>Could I possibly?

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<v Speaker 3>Because at the opening of Act 2 we've got the high school hop and then it goes into Born to Hand Drive.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like could I possibly be in it and use both kinds?

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<v Speaker 3>And they were like yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feared for my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel there was any other.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in those situations many a time in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Your whole lifetime?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that is so mean no, but I was very lucky enough to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>That meant because I think there is an option, you can.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not as if we broke any rules or anything, because the song hopefully Defoded wasn't ever in the music.

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<v Speaker 3>They then wrote it just for Livi and John for the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the stage version they only had what was it called A Dwayne on prom night.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was meant to be a phrase frame Sandy sitting in her room listening to the radio, listening to the dance, and she singing Dwayne on prom night.

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<v Speaker 3>No offence, it's the most boring song in the whole white world.

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<v Speaker 3>So we scrapped that song and we put in hopefully Defoded.

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<v Speaker 3>So then it made sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say him dancing with Chacha.

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<v Speaker 3>I ran off the stage and then the next song straight after was hopefully Defoded.

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<v Speaker 3>So, in that sense.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just sand it and like Kudos to our director.

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<v Speaker 3>He really tried to make that show a bit more enjoyable and like even the drive-in scene.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, it's rank.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely disgusting and we try to not make it as creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was a lot that we really had to kind of do, but I'm here to talk to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I've hated every single second of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I just mean it was a weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel the same about Laurie in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the character, so I had to go back to Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell what.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's really wet, like there's not much that goes on there either.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it takes a special actress and special director to kind of tease a wee bit more Outdits, maybe not there on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how did you?

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned singing hopelessly devoted.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any memories of that in our production?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not really, I just Obviously it's because it's such an iconic song.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great, but I think you know the things you have to expect when you're doing musicals like Grace the audience members are glittered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I remember about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And any tiny sign of song that they knew they were singing along with you, and it got to the point that you were actually trying to then sing it really slow.

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<v Speaker 1>So then, they would finish what they were singing.

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<v Speaker 2>So then, you could continue on.

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<v Speaker 3>It just was.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope the photo wasn't too bad, but I felt very sorry for the girl playing the riso because when she had a sing there were things I could do.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just awful, like it kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>For me it kind of put a dampener on the production of it because particularly the closer you got to the weekend, the drunker the audiences were and it was just out of order like it was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know how you did that song, because it was literally like a karaoke fest in the auditorium.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why it's constantly revived I think it's been revived something like eight times is because audiences love it and they have like a real nostalgia for it and they love to sing along.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's, as we've mentioned many times, where you don't do that at theatre.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the little greet hasn't ever come that show where it's like that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that and Rocky Horror.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, but the problem is just now that are right.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the audience are gonna participate here, but it seems to be that Lester shows is getting bigger and bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean like bodyguard.

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<v Speaker 1>People sing the Whitney Houston songs at the bottom of the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know any like Jitbox musical where the the musical numbers are remotely recognizable, like audiences just think they can sing along.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like shut up and it's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing off it could have not been a way that they go right from Monday to Friday or whatever the evening shows.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you say.

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<v Speaker 3>And an announcement please do not sing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Friday matinee or the Saturday matinee, sing along if you want to make it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So then, the people, that may be what, but I want to go and sing that song, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well then, you sign up and do your handra.

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<v Speaker 1>I think society wise.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that would stop up to the almost.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will just do their own thing anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any lasting memories?

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<v Speaker 4>of you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Kate's a lot covered most of it there when she was supposed to be talking about her own.

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<v Speaker 1>She hasn't talked about yours, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, firstly, I didn't want the part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you really did, I did not want.

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<v Speaker 1>Danny at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't find Danny at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember the casting of that show was really hard work, like we, just the boys were just not there.

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<v Speaker 1>So carry on.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want a knickie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah and I remember it, both you and Neil send me.

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<v Speaker 4>Neil was our Neil Cary, our fabulous director, sent me look, you'd be a great knickie, you really would.

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<v Speaker 4>But we don't have a Danny and you're the only one can play it essentially.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, right, okay, I'll give it a go.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I remember I had a fabulous wig.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was clear, my wig was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy's extremely bald.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not extremely bald.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he can't be extremely bald, he's bald and he wears very extremely bald hair, no hair would suffice, he's bald, extremely bald However you are.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why she's saying this, because I wasn't bald.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no the time.

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<v Speaker 1>No so no, it was not.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Just four Be having this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the I didn't want the part.

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<v Speaker 4>I ended up getting the part and but straight away, I'll be honest, nothing about Danny in this script when you're reading it is endearing whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>He really is not a likable person.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and especially this day and age.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know certain, unless you are going to play it proper like a full parody, then there's still things that you didn't seem like you could laugh at.

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<v Speaker 4>It's things like it's stuck in between two genres, like what way are we going to go with this?

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<v Speaker 4>So the big things probably were the, the drive-in scene.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because we changed it that drive-in scene is not nice, and especially with a lively audience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's things.

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<v Speaker 4>They were shouting when they drank in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, really Fills.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely Fills.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't maybe repeat them on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, that's horrific, though, that people feel like they Laugh, and then it's like especially nowadays, and people feel that they can like shout that stuff at actors on stage.

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<v Speaker 3>The girl that played our chacha when she took her boy, like the boys of the show was over, danny and Sonny were together.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, boy, we had the band up on the stage up at the top so we had seats where the pit would have been and ladies sitting there and called her a word beginning with S when she took her boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I was like she's not actually this person, so she's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just take that and go.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a really good job of playing my part.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have taken it, but yeah, no, but yeah, the audiences were mad.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you cope then?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really wanting to play the part, not having much on paper, I mean I need to get right in a lot of those shows which you know, like when you are in a show where there's a group yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like essentially you're splitting the two groups there.

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<v Speaker 4>You've the group of the teabirds and then you've got your pink lady.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was almost like the same way, I think, of seven brides or anything like that words.

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<v Speaker 4>You spend so much time with a very specific group of people that you end up having great fun, you end up getting to know those people really well, and they were all.

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<v Speaker 4>They all seemed like a good bunch of people, yeah that extensive drama really Absolutely and you were willing to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you have a good production team that you know, aren't just phoning it in.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not there for a paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>they really care about what the product is going on, and I think it's so pants on paper that Neil and I really did work really hard to try and make something of it and to make it a different experience or like a different version of grace that maybe isn't thrown out every so often.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Same musically as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're empty worked hard to try and like shake it up a bit just so that it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more enjoyable and maybe wasn't as cringe or like seedy in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't bubble gum it that's not the right word but we tried where the script was feeling to kind of do something about it, nail in particular.

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<v Speaker 4>Largely, the audiences are wanting you to just do a reproduction of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's what they knew.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were more than happy at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though some people didn't like it, we were quite proud of what we were able to do with it.

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<v Speaker 4>In the end, however, it was like pulling hands teeth at the time it was very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>But and then I don't agree with this, but the show was reviewed.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate reviews and one review in particular, was really really good reading, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>I won't read it tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>She's cut the review here.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a let down a little bit by the lack of chemistry between both main characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, love it and that line is one of the reasons why I wanted you guys on just to kind of talk about that too.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so loud and like I was like this is the love of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>We just were like ooh ooh with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, when you're playing two parts which are a bit, you know, you can't play it Any other way, you can, you know, put Gitlin and Jimmy in it, but there was chemistry like it wasn't, as if they were like two blocks of wood.

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<v Speaker 1>It just made me roar.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me laugh so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I think to make Grease better they should go to the extreme Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably wouldn't get as many audiences and make it as even more seedy and, you know, not like hold on See.

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<v Speaker 2>In the film they wanted to cast a porn actor as the coach, but they felt that that wouldn't have been allowed by the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that it was all written for it to be a real adult film and I think that's where it lacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Something is because they tried to keep all of that yuckiness in it, yeah, but with a little bit of like sweetness, and it just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>But the film was out all too, often yeah, so either

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<v Speaker 4>remove it completely Does your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I know they're like 20 something year olds playing them, but yeah so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not a favorite of mine, it's a good fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You know box, sometimes it's something that's brilliant, do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>it's great fun.

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<v Speaker 4>The dancing must have met was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the best fun about it, it was probably right up there with my top three shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever choreographed, because I absolutely loved choreographing.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we talk about the time you shouted at Katie?

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to get it on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was proper life.

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<v Speaker 4>I just have to have a try.

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<v Speaker 4>Them two obviously are not like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not the relationship whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know how much Katie respects me, but I don't actually remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast brings out everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been thrown under the bus more times due to doing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you shouted at Katie, that's probably deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>It was absolutely deserved.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it was a long time coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Same thing over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 4>And Katie in the rehearsal room.

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<v Speaker 4>Timon can tell you she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>She knows her.

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<v Speaker 4>She's off-book before rehearsal starts.

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<v Speaker 4>She knows everybody's lines.

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<v Speaker 4>She's that girl.

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<v Speaker 4>She's Patty Simcox in the rehearsal room.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did it show that to you?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the cartwheel?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, was it something she didn't have belief in herself?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't cartwheel and I even went to a gymnastics coach to teach me how to cartwheel and you know I still can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was the cartwheel over the leg.

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<v Speaker 3>But we did a cartwheel over the leg and then I had to get swept underneath Demi's legs but I just couldn't let myself go do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I always did that I can't, I can't, I can't, and I was like I'll do it on the night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it on the night because every time we did it in rehearsal I was like I can't do it, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Demi went through me like a bag of prunes and was just like are you gonna do it or what?

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<v Speaker 3>You just have to do it or we'll just cut it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll just cut the whole entire thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But how did that make you feel whenever he said that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, why you, oh, why you, oh no no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean no.

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<v Speaker 4>She shriveled into nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what I mean is Died in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it make you look at yourself and go right?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, katelyn, back up, let's let's do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know, In the moment I was like, well, I'm not sure, I'll just not do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, I was gonna say as a sister, I would know that you would then double down and be like I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>I am telling you she is putting on that this brave face right now.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I said in that moment I that is not how she felt at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not how you were.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not how you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say, let me say my love of my life, please just let me say in that moment, as Denise and Charlotte, I wanted to be like I'm not gonna do it, but I was like I don't have a legs down though.

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<v Speaker 4>You would have.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like you were gonna run outside and cry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but did you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it kept in the?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, did it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you couldn't do it, so we cut it.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't do it, but also actually generally not making me excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think it was my dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a misuse.

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<v Speaker 3>We did it because I didn't get a.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't wearing her dress in rehearsals.

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<v Speaker 3>No it was in rehearsals.

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<v Speaker 3>It was then when we got on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>We cut it anyway because of the dress.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kept in.

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<v Speaker 1>That might have been what I told you just to make you feel better, but the fact you couldn't cartwheel still after months of practising.

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<v Speaker 3>The cartwheel was kept in.

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<v Speaker 3>It was then going underneath the legs.

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<v Speaker 4>That sequence, that whole sequence do you remember?

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<v Speaker 4>Was that with the jive?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah so you have the bit with Chacha.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know I'm speaking to myself here, but that is so fast.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't stop that whole long run and we do you remember just standing that day with the girl playing Chacha and we just Drilled it, kept doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>A bit of timing how quick can we do this?

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<v Speaker 4>How quick can we do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Can we get it in this amount of time?

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<v Speaker 4>You?

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<v Speaker 2>just throw her away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's no.

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<v Speaker 1>And, like I won't lie, I was a real ass in that show, because I think it's so high energy you would have had to have.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so high energy and I wanted it to be wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wanted the hand jive section to be like oh my goodness, could they have thrown any more into that?

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<v Speaker 1>So, like I know, expectations were high from my point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>But apart from Caitlin and our cartwheel, everybody else was able to like, fulfil, the great you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he joked in Caitlin, we were really wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you did actually have to Like I Tear in there for you people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I had to push.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to push myself because I had to go away and research more lifts and you know, things like that that I wouldn't necessarily have been comfortable with, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>But it just needed to be a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Just basically fresh, yeah, yeah, and it was like and do you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Every so often I look back at some of the production shots and I can't remember who the photographer was, but they got some crackers of like dancers in mid-lift and all Like and they're upside down and there's one where there's a guy on the floor and I think it's Gemma and she's in the middle of like cartwheeling over him and it's just a clap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best production photograph I've ever seen of any productions.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been involved in yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like I enjoyed it and I loved choreographing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely up there with my top three and I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the source material is slightly pants, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's very good.

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<v Speaker 4>You had to maintain that discipline a bit more in that show because it was a much younger cast and it was a big cast I cast them.

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot of young a lot of them are kids that were doing that and they're there.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in a rehearsal room with not being used, but what do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>You're all sitting in the yard and they're having a laugh at their run around and it's like I'm sorry the focus needs to be here right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does, and that was the problem, because majority of them were doing three other shows at the same time, yeah, and I also their focus weren't, but they were coming from one other or I had to leave early because I've got another show and back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>It was never it was a thing of note.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Wednesdays, this one Thursdays, that production and whatever, when you're here, you're in the show, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a lot of girls, so like I had to think really carefully about who did what number and I knew that everybody would have to, like, keep up and work hard, or there was the guts of like six or seven girls that were chomping at the bit to be put into that number and we're kind of bitting a bit that they weren't in the number in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like no, you've been chosen by me to be in this number, so you need to work your socks off.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't, you're going to be letting me down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of that going on with that show because it was just so big and such a big cast.

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<v Speaker 4>But in that show.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to mention the ones that stole the show and they didn't have many lines really comparatively, but the people that stole that show, the parts and names are Mrs Lenge Mrs.

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<v Speaker 1>Lenge yes, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you aging?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I forgot about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're aging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mrs Lenge is a small character.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got nominated for an award, yeah she's got nominated for an award because she's just a really good actress.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my friend, lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked her in as a favour because we also didn't have a Miss Lynch Casting.

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<v Speaker 1>That show was really difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>We just didn't have the people to play the parts At the beginning, not the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>We got eventually established.

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<v Speaker 1>We're brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>But Laura played a blinder.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up putting her into Magic Changes and gave her wee cameo and that she appeared in the diner in the last scene.

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<v Speaker 1>But she appeared with a leather jacket on and the shades because she secretly wanted to be part of the gang, which sounds ridiculous, until you see it happen and it was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Eugene played a blinder.

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<v Speaker 1>I also remember that show was our Teen Angel and we had a drag queen play the.

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<v Speaker 1>Teen Angel and it gave me chills every night, that number.

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<v Speaker 1>It just worked so well.

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<v Speaker 1>They were set behind a tab or a gauze and it went out and you didn't really see anything on the stage because they've been filled with dry ice.

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<v Speaker 1>But as a dry ice, all you heard was a voice and then, as a dry ice, disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>You just saw Teen Angel with the big, massive orange, starry foam wig and it just worked really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the girls came on and danced around.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it really well.

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<v Speaker 2>You also got some lovely stories.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like cat fights to be in that number.

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<v Speaker 1>All the girls wanted to be in the Teen Angel number and I was like, no, I'm sorry, I could only choose 12 because of costuming so at least I could put the brunt of that onto somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only 12 questions.

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<v Speaker 2>sorry, girls Can't have everybody, that'd be the 12 of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any other funny musical stories, not necessarily linked to Grace, any funny Caitlin?

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<v Speaker 1>You have a few, because there were a few you told us about and we were like, no, we won't put them into the episode we did on reader's story, our listener's stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us three, we'll give you three.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us your Oklahoma one.

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<v Speaker 3>No, so again I got to play Laurie.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those nonsescript rules.

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<v Speaker 4>I look forward to playing Rosie.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to play Laurie and I have to say I've got better throughout the years but my nerves were chilled.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not good with my nerves.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got to the song Many A New Day and I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't know what happened, but I sang Many a poo came before.

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<v Speaker 3>I poo.

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<v Speaker 3>And we just saw everyone like looking because we're having a stand, and then I had all my friends around me and I was like many a poo and it was like you can see the fear.

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<v Speaker 3>And then everyone looking at me and I'm like poo, and then everybody else is like.

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<v Speaker 3>I continued to sing and I was like, why did that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a fear.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time I sang it's like, yeah, my wig coming off and doing the Christmas panto, which done at the side of the stage and we were playing the fitment and they had the glittery stairs and obviously you're small.

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<v Speaker 3>So my wig got caught to the dinosaur and I'm walking and we got tights on our heads, the wig on and I'm dancing away and I can.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a wee bit breezy.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>looking at me and then you can just see because we've been told when you're on stage you're performing and you don't if anything happens, if your legs broken, you continue, you continue.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could see everybody looking at me and I was like, oh no, I could just see my wig dangling on this glittery stair and I thought that's it, I'm going to do this one again.

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<v Speaker 3>So much trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the one that kind of tops it off is doing again another boring part in the Boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think that's a boring part.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, she's got definitely more to her than the others.

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<v Speaker 4>Just the way you played it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a boring part.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably in the Boyfriend Aniki, and that was one of the shows that we I think it was very, not last minute, but we found it hard to find somebody playing opposite me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just Boy's Anomalystic Theatre.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it was just oh, my friend knows someone, who knows someone, who knows someone who knows someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, are they brave to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are, other than their drama GCSE.

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<v Speaker 3>They haven't really done anything other than that and the theatre that we were in it was very intimate, so the stage was just a floor.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't raised or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>For real sorry, and so the audience were right there and other than your dad on Kays, I actually don't know if if your brother was on the drums, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>That, was it?

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<v Speaker 3>that was the height of the music, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were told you know, when you're performing, try only in the corner of your eye to look at the MD, don't be staring this way, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got out, did my bit, came off stage and the guy playing opposite me kind of fluffed a few of his lines, but I was just thought it was nerve-stucking, off and off.

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<v Speaker 3>It Got off the stage and I was like are you okay?

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, why does a ghost Came on?

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<v Speaker 3>We're about to sing this beautiful duet and I start and then and still thumping, still thumping, and he is not for singing, like I mean not for singing, and he just stares at your dad, just stares, like this, and he's still thumping.

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<v Speaker 3>So I then sing his bit again.

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<v Speaker 3>No, still nothing, your dad's still thumping, he just has gone completely blank.

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<v Speaker 3>So I then had to sing that song as if I was a schizophrenic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sing it to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>yeah, so I sang his bit, my bit, his bit, my bit, and the end of Act 1, and then what I kept thinking was we do a reprise of this song.

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<v Speaker 3>No Like, is he gonna be able to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>So, basically what it was, his friends had come and they were in the front row and that just knocked us down, oh bless.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sitting there singing this love song to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Like literally I'm turning from right to left oh my goodness, to left, to try and get him to.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was kind of changing the words.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, he's not to say like you are and I'm like am I the most beautiful girl?

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<v Speaker 1>you see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing, and I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he catch a hold of himself by the time the reprise came?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, by the reprise, yes, he did.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was a long, three minutes, I'm sure it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Has that ever?

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you on stage blanking.

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<v Speaker 1>No lucky you no.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not nerd that knows everyone's minds, and I'm the one that helps other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But no.

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<v Speaker 1>I never blank.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchwood, touchwood.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, jimmy?

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<v Speaker 1>Any funny musical stories, apart from our trying to find our bar to notes and guys and dolls?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean when's the action.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the only, that's the only time I think that I've made a proper, you know a noticeable mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much of a little personal I love when Jimmy messes up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very rare I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it was again.

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<v Speaker 4>When I think about it, I think of you talking to me a side stage, because you were the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't that bad, but nobody would have noticed.

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<v Speaker 4>Clearly they did why did you come over to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember standing backstage we were doing Westside Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was when we did Bangor's Westside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was standing backstage and I could hear, oh no, run, yeah, and I was playing Reth, so I was the first line, okay, so I and it's obviously a very difficult intro coming in and this is the beginning of the quintet.

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<v Speaker 4>So again, your dad was the MD and he was in a screen in front of us.

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<v Speaker 4>He was bringing us in.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, because I was running late to the stage, I just everything was a fluster, like I was just too much right, so I ran out and I just went early before your dad brought us in, like maybe a beat, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was the jitter, the jitter going at the rate.

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<v Speaker 4>We started and I remember you trying to sell me it's fine, it's kind of like the jitter.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way I was that.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, no, I think everything has been sort of lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the parts I've played as well that if something did go wrong I could get away with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it wasn't really so noticeable.

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<v Speaker 1>That must have been like a running theme for that show, cause that Westside was the same show that at the beginning of the dance at the gym and my dance partner still hadn't made it on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was about to do like in everybody on stage was dancing as a partner and there was no partner there and she I don't know how she did it, but she literally got there the last millisecond before we would start the first move and I kind of gave her the eyes off, like where were you?

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<v Speaker 1>And she just smiled I'm sorry but it was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, I think the setup of that, that theatre is a bit like funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can very easily be in the dressing room and like the show's about to start and you're like what Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, that was fun, that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>You too.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so welcome yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean there's plenty of chemistry between the two of you, I don't think you'd need to worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you burn up?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we never got it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was actually a friend screenshot and it sounded to me like no, All right.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for taking the time to come and see us today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, good luck with the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and we shall hopefully have yous on again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, please, okay, thank you for today and we'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, oh, was that fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was indeed Do you think we should have them back?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I might make it and cry again.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who can't do cartwheels?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Must be a family thing, then, fair enough, yeah, okay, it's quite interesting what you learn Not necessarily great lessons in life that we've learned from Grace.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird because I remember, literally as a kid it's probably the first like music.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember watching on VHS and I watched it so many times that the VHS stopped working because we have moved into our new house and I was basically chucked into the front room where there was no carpet down with the TV and the VHS player and I just watched Grace on repeat while clearly mum and dad like were sort of like the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, some of those lessons just aren't really great to learn at, and I was young, like I was definitely younger.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that goes over your head, like whenever you don't understand I didn't realise that she resumed, had the potential of being pregnant at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That went completely over my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember the parents doing a grace and stage go?

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<v Speaker 2>So we did a grace and stage go whenever we were younger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do remember having that conversation with Sharon and we've been coming out to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming out to it because we must have all not discovered it at the same time, but we must have thought that we were really cool and we could have been those characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I do remember Sharon saying it deals with some really adult things that I just I don't feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing it and we pestered her so much that I think she changed a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we weren't doing it for audiences or anything written.

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<v Speaker 2>the whole script and I remember that conversation vividly and I remember being like what is she talking about apart from smoking and drinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, that was all.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you play, did you?

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<v Speaker 2>know, I didn't have, I never have.

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<v Speaker 2>Why have I got?

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<v Speaker 1>on my head that you were parry Simcox.

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<v Speaker 1>You had been a brilliant party.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I never really had parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know, Okay, I played Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you did, but I was like one of one boy.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have much of a but your dad my dad was um, danny, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was Patty Simcox.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I'm, that is what I'm remembering, yeah it was so like watching our parents do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was hilarious Really.

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<v Speaker 2>A shine was Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy and then Melanie was using and she was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like the first time I went.

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<v Speaker 1>So Melanie would have like been involved in stage go on the administration side and would have been as a great organizer still to this day, but I didn't realize she had that like performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, do you have any fun facts about I?

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<v Speaker 2>have a few interesting facts about it, just you know we go to nuggets before we leave our listeners for this week about.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that GME Donnelly played Jan in both the film and on stage that there was meant to be a closing scene in the film which Danny and Sandy kiss, but this was removed and then it was later lost and the only available copy they have of it is actually in black and white.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So they tried to restore it, but it's not to the standard that they want.

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<v Speaker 2>So what they're hoping to do is insert it as the original intended ending for the 50th anniversary in 2028.

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<v Speaker 2>So in 2028, when we're doing our podcast still, we'll make sure we watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we're doing the podcast still in 2028.

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<v Speaker 1>So are they planning on re-releasing it or are they planning on doing a new version of it?

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<v Speaker 2>No re-releasing it, but hopefully so they have the region that's in black and white but they're going to hopefully be able to put colour into that because obviously technology is a bit more, and then they will add that to the end of the already you know film that we know and love, which is pants anyway, because they just fly off in a car.

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<v Speaker 1>yeah, oh, that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know about that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Rydel High School was based on Taft High School in Chicago, illinois, and that school was named after the rock singer Bobby Rydel.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why, then, in the film, they called it Rydel.

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<v Speaker 1>And, interestingly, that school was used by Britney Spears to film her hit me baby one more time music video.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you, recognise the corridors.

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe where from.

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<v Speaker 1>And Justin Timberlake, that's because I've written down JT here.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually mean John Travolta, oh and you were thinking of Britney Spears, so I can see where the connection was Mickey Mouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Club and the Net and her big knockers, which are made reference to a great sorry JT, as in John Travolta's sister, is in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the one that when they're showing the dance contest on the TV in the diner, she's the one that points to the screen, says look, it's Danny and Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some fun facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've got through the whole podcast and now I'm deciding to choke.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I've done okay to get this far, I still have a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, do you have any son innovations?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I probably could if I was going to go into it and give it lots of love and attention but I'm not really willing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Rizzo and her.

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<v Speaker 1>There's worse things I can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You steal the show, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my standing ovation and we nugget for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and listen to Billy Porter, who was the original Lola and kinky bits musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Going listen to Billy Porter's version of beauty school dropout.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in one of the Broadway productions, one of the revivals, and his version of that song is epic.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe could we put it on our playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>We will 100% put it on our playlist.

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<v Speaker 1>So do go check out our playlist on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got all of the episodes there and the musical numbers that we have mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>That will 100% go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will listen to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an absolute gem.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's us for this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm trying to think of like a great song that we could, we could use as our leaving song.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll always be together.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll always be together, Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, waw, waw, waggle, ding, ding dong I don't think that works.

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<v Speaker 1>But sure, hello, we just make up the words here.

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<v Speaker 1>We know this by now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, we will be leaving you wanting more.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our clue for next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.