Ruthless Cake. More musical discoveries.

Hello and welcome to Musical Lyrical Lingo . We're your hosts , Tim and LJ .

Today and every week we will be discussing musicals , but specifically what they taught us .

And this week we're talking about lots New musical . Well , a new musical and an old musical .

Yeah , a new discovery of musicals .

New discovery of musicals .

Yeah .

Yeah , we're going off road yeah , it's it .

I love this challenge . I think that we should do it every at the beginning of the season , at the end of the .

Oh , you're a gag . You're just saying that because I mucked up no because I was like I think we should do that again . You know , we haven't done it since season one . And then norm was like we did it at the beginning of season two and I'm going oh , did we ?

But I think , because we have done so much in season two , like we've had loads of guests , we've done specials yeah , I think in the flow , you know , we're in the flow , we're in the flow I think this bit or this type of episode excites us yeah , even more , doesn't it ?

we love experiencing you . Like I , I love listening to brand new cast recordings yeah I've been listening to a few recently , some good , some indifferent .

Some not so good , yeah , but we're not here to talk about them today . No , no , and let's not , because we'll so will we just get cracked in ?

Let's get cracked in , because the last time we did this we came across an absolute Joy , joy . In Millennials Are Killing Musicals . Yeah , joy , joy . That in millennials are killing musicals , yeah amazing will we come across .

Let's hope and not like another , another one fan favorite yeah so for those that are maybe new to the podcast or maybe only discovering us . So sometimes we set each other challenges where we give each other um a number of musicals that we assume the other person maybe doesn't know a huge amount about .

I know you need to I forgot that part of the , the agreement . I was like , oh yeah , she needs to know .

So she can listen . Yeah , yeah , um , I forgot . So I said yeah , um , you , you were very on the ball . It's almost as if you had been thinking about this for a while . I Well .

I think no , do you know what it was . I had gone through a period of having listened to quite a lot of unknown musical cast recordings , so for me I had a few that I was like that would be a good one for the next you know , the next challenge episode .

Shall shall I say what you sent me , or ?

shall we say what we said each other ? Who's going first , you or me , with your choice ?

Well , I'll go first , seeing as you sent me the things first .

Seeing I was more on the ball . You were more on the ball . That's fine by me .

So the messages that I got were and we mentioned in the last episode .

I think I played an absolute blinder with the choices . I gave you , tim , with the choices .

I gave you Tim . These choices were better than mine , apparently , Of course Don't .

Apparently , Of course they were . All of our listeners are going to go and listen to all of these musicals and they're going to agree .

Okay , so Continue , yes , and please do go , but I'm hoping that at some point in the future we'll talk about at least some of these musicals too .

I think there's a few on both of our lists that definitely have a future . Yeah , and it'll be interesting to see what comes of some of them .

That's it . That's it . So there's a process with everything .

Oh , especially when we're working with Lauren . There's a process .

But so Cake the Marie Antoinette playlist . Then we had the Great British Bake Off musical original London .

Do you watch the Bake Off ?

I do , yeah , though I haven't this year . That's great . I haven't recorded Becoming Nancy . Then we had 42 Balloons .

Which had previously been mentioned on this episode , when we talked to Francis .

Yes .

Because he was excited for that one .

And then Zoological Society . So I'm going to go through them . So the one I chose was Cake .

Oh , I was going to do it on roll , but it's okay , sorry .

Was Cake Okay . The Marie Antoinette musical I did listen to them in order that you sent them .

Okay .

Which was strange , but so I listened to that first .

What was the first one I sent you ?

Cake .

Okay .

So Cake was the very first one I listened to .

Oh , you listened to it first , and then you returned to it right at the very end .

So then I was like I'm going to Obviously listen to them all . I thought Great British Bake Off was really warm and cutesy and I loved it .

Yeah .

I did think it was great and I 100% seen it in the local Amdram scene .

I was like that needs to be snapped up .

Somebody needs to do that quick . I fell in love with Becoming Nancy and I did not choose it as my number one . Yeah , because I think it needs to go and have a wee bit of work and I think it will come back bigger and stronger .

Okay .

So I almost didn't want to do it . Yeah , because I have a feeling we will be doing it at some point .

Because it has just opened . Has it opened and just closed on Broadway ? Uh-huh . The reason I put that into my list is because Jerry Mitchell , who's one of my favorite choreographers , stroke directors was involved in that project and I was like , oh , that's Jerry's new one , we'll put that in See what she thinks . Loved it Interesting Jerry's new one .

Loved it . Interesting , really , really loved that .

Yeah .

And loved Joseph Peacock's voice Stunning 42 Balloons I had I'd listened to it .

Yeah .

Before . Whenever Francis mentioned it , I was in the process of listening to it so I was like , okay , I know a bit about that yeah I didn't want to do it . I kind of did want to come to something that I'd never listened to before .

I think that it'll be interesting to see what happens to that over the next year or two yeah , again , I think it needs things have happened and I think it'll only . I think it'll move forward like I don't see that being the end of its journey and then zoological society .

I first of all started to listen to it and I was like what ?

I know is this why did he send me this ?

and then , all of a sudden , there were swear words and it was . I was like , oh my goodness , it's hilarious absolutely hilarious right hilarious so do you know what vibes it gave me ? What I was about to say has aaron heard it yet ?

hasn't heard it give it a listen . It's so funny I think it is one .

The next time we're on a long car journey , I'm gonna be like listen to this um because I did the same .

The first track I went what on earth is this ? And like it's got quite big names linked to it . Like lissy jones is on the tracks , jason manford although I him in musical theater upsets me . You know there's a few , there's a few names . I'm like well , what have they signed up to ?

did they ?

realize what they were signing up to .

And then you hear it and you go okay , yeah , this is funny it was a nice surprise , but and I'm going to be honest I first listened to Cake and I didn't love it . Okay , but there was something about it that made me want to listen to it again . So I was like I'm going to give it one more go .

Uh-huh .

And on the second I was hooked .

Yeah .

I think the first time I was distracted I wasn't paying attention . Yeah , and I think that first time I was distracted I wasn't paying attention and I think that that made a big difference and I kind of had stayed away from the social media around it yeah , yeah . So I was aware of it . It was kind of like in my what's that word ? Peripheral .

Peripheral . Peripheral , that word .

Oh , my goodness .

Peripheral , peripheral .

But I think it's great .

I do think it's another one that we will hear again in a couple of years time so on Saturday , when I forgot that we needed to tell each other , and when you told me , I was like that's the choice , like deep , deep , deep down , I was hoping that's the one that you would choose yeah , okay because I think , of all of them , I think that's the one for me

If you are going to listen to cake , there are two album covers .

I think that would be my advice um I thought the tongue and cheek vibe to it was very six . You know the way that kind of like , you know the witty , clever lyrics , I thought , oh , that's quite six . I was listening to it on the way here because , as you said , the more you listen to it , the more I think you get hooked .

I find it very funny so tell us all about it . So Cake the Musical . It's a Bill Kenwright production . Oh , I didn't realise it is described as a multi-genre pop score . That is Sorry . There's a multi-genre pop score that is used in this and it is described as a musical slash gig , slash ballet .

Oh , slash ballet , yeah , interesting , okay , so so cake .

Full title the marie . Is it marie or marie ? Marie marie okay , the marie antoinette playlist retells the story that sparked a revolution , starring um cz strallon and renee lamb , whose voice is amazing , and she was the original Catherine of Aragon in six .

Okay .

So also Millie O'Connell , who was the original .

Sorry , not sorry . Yeah yeah , anne Boleyn .

Anne Boleyn Two so there is Okay , yeah , so six people there , commissioned by Paul Taylor Mills . Yep , who did Heather In the Heights and my Sons Are Queer . Yeah , um , music and lyrics by Jack McManus and an up and coming . Um , she's on one of those one to watch , but like Nico is in Broadway um Tasha Taylor Johnston .

I thought the lyrics are super , super clever they are your fave .

Drew McInghney yes , in the original staging and choreography yeah . Book by Morgan Lloyd Malcolm and Tasha Taylor Johnston yeah . So real vibrant crew who kind of want to do something a little bit different so the staging was also different . It was a real interactive performance , started in 2022 , 2023 , went on a k tour and then it came to the other palace .

Yeah , I wonder why that was . Do we know ? Did you remember we had a conversation , a couple ?

of weeks ago about this is happening in broadway . Things are opening and closing , opening closes , not opening at all . There's a problem , and this is the first thing that we've seen in the West End especially for something new that is just like . That is a bit wild that it was meant to be on for at least three months .

Good , well , I mean , I didn't know anything either , but it's history . Why would I ?

Yeah , no . So I want to go back , sorry , to the reviews , the reviews of everything . A lot of people were saying it's a work in progress , in progress , plenty of potential , just not there yet yeah so maybe they all took that on board and then have gone .

Yeah .

If you're on a UK tour , if you're on a national tour , a Belfast tour , In my opinion , theatre's theatre , regardless of where it is or what scale it is . It feels like there's a real hierarchy , doesn't there , I suppose ?

can there not ? Just be a six month contract you just wonder is there , is there not more support that can be given to people who are trying new things ?

but then look what happened last night what happened last night tammy faye was pulled that's right .

It's closed , isn't it ? Performances really five there's something weird going on on broadway at the moment , though , isn't there , because sure there's . There was , um , my son's a queer , but what can you do ? Like it was .

I just think ticket prices are In theatre world we're not even going there with the rest . I just think ticket prices are so , so expensive . Anyway , so one of my first musical lyrical ingos , who was Marie , who was Marie ? Who was Marie Antoinette ?

She sounded fabulous , I have to say , in this cast recording anyway .

A real name was Maria Antonia Josefa Johanna . She was born the 2nd of November 1755 and she sadly died on the 16th of 10th 1793 . She was only 38 . Yeah , I know the two of you . The last queen of France prior to the French Revolution .

Right .

She was the wife of Louis XVI and she was 14 and he was 15 when they got married . It took them seven years to consummate their marriage , so while she was queen , she was .

It's an important fact you needed to include there .

No , but people are saying like that is very odd , yeah . So I'm just saying , that is very odd yeah . So I'm just including it .

She was more interested in eating cake .

Oh Okay

They were both at it , just not with each other .

Yeah , she was falsely accused of defrauding the Crown's jewels in a scandal known as Affair of the Diamond Necklace . The country's financial crisis was blamed on her lavish spending and this is where the rumour of Let them Eat Cake came from . But EP will remind , remind me or shout at me .

And here they are . They've written a musical about it .

It was apparently just journalism as a way to bring down the aristocracy . Propaganda , propaganda . When the French abolished their monarch in 1792 , louis was then executed by guillotine . I haven't said that , right , sure I haven't Guillotine ?

Um , he was then later convicted after the queen okay , and is that that's the character that's played by renny lamb ?

yes , okay , that is indeed , and she , yes she , so she befriended yes , so I , so I'm going to like this .

So I learned all about Same learning more already . I love this podcast All about this .

This necklace in today's world would be worth 13 million , 13 million pounds , holy moly so . But this necklace wasn't just for these monarchs . This necklace was actually meant to be a gift to Louis XV's mistress , but he died . And then I think of smallpox he died of .

I don't want to be your friend anymore .

I don't want to be your friend .

Sorry , I should have said it in a French accent . I do not want to be your friend anymore .

That actually really disturbed him because he , being a Cardinal , he actually wanted to . Louis XVI was quite a religious man and he often relied on ministers and priests to help make his decisions . And this cardinal wanted to be in that inner circle because he had offended the queen . He was never going to get into that inner circle .

We all like to be in that inner circle . Because he had offended the Queen , he was never going to get into that inner circle . We all like to be in the inner circle , so our trickster Big Jean .

She decided to convince him to write letters to Marie .

Okay .

But she was the one on the receiving end . He thought he was writing to the Queen . He wasn't . She was a wee trickster wasn .

He wasn't . She was a wee trickster .

She was a wee trickster , um , and whenever he felt like the letters were getting laughing at me , and whenever he felt the letters were getting more , uh , warm she he said well , could you , um , ask me to get away , arrangement , you are laughing at me , why are you laughing ?

at me Absolutely nothing .

Okay , could I arrange to meet the Queen ? So he asked Big Gene to arrange a meeting with MA in the Palace of Versailles .

Palace of Versailles .

But he ended up meeting a prostitute that Big Gene had fooled the cardinal with , who looked just slightly like Marie Antoinette . No , a man was a fool . He didn't even realize he wasn't actually meeting the queen .

Okay .

After this encounter . Then she said or at this encounter the prostitute said I have forgiven you , we are friends now , but what would make us really friendly if you buy me that necklace that was made ? So then he then went to and because this was all in letters , this was like evidence that the Queen had actually said it .

Um yeah , she was like got her head chopped off for no reason , absolutely no reason . It was all big gene's fault , mm-hmm .

How dare she His fault ?

Oh well , but she was also a wee minx . Like setting the queen up like .

Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , like 100% the cardinal , yeah , Cardinal Rohan , yeah .

Rohan , he likes to be on the inner circle .

So the musical ? Because it is so new , the cast recording , it's really hard to get the actual lyrics . Huh yeah , it is so yeah I can't say if there was anything in the lyrics that I learned from it , because , with me being hard of hearing , I sometimes hear words wrong , so I need to read and the lyrics .

Actually it's where they , it is where they like so that is the .

The learning that I did was mainly from from the history . Yeah , I really loved the um the different styles of the music I felt overall than what the musical was teaching you .

Like the song champagne dreams which is like , it's like a ballad , it's the ballad song that um marie sings and or mary sings , or whatever her name is um .

So it sort of explores her like complexities and like the fact that she was thrust into power , but again being a woman and being a woman in that time she had no say in anything .

Yeah .

So she was oh , I don't hate that , but she was a queen , but with limitations . Yeah , and I like that . Drew did say I watched some behind the scenes that this is you're not coming to watch this for a history lesson , you're coming just to have like a more humanized version of the story .

Very good , so don't come and watch it .

and don't come and watch it as I know come and watch it for a history lesson right it also warns you of the dangers of um living in excess and privilege and being too lavish , because then people can turn on you , and the musical underscores the importance of understanding and connecting with others , particularly those less fortunate .

It must be good must be good , fair , fair taste to them .

There we go . It doesn't seem like there was a lot , but I did feel like I learned a lot .

Oh no , there was a lot there . There was a lot of history there , A lot of history .

I thought that literally she just said let them eat cake , and they all just went .

And they ate cake . Executed her and that was it , and then chopped her yeah .

I didn't realize there was this scandal about the necklace , the necklace .

yeah , yeah , I mean I think they're on to a winner , having ZZ Stalin at the head of that project .

Yeah , and Lam's voice is beautiful . Yeah , a really powerful , and the two of them together are fantastic .

The numbers that they do back and forward are brilliant .

Yeah .

Absolutely brilliant . And I thought the guy I've forgotten his name numbers that they do . Yeah , back and forward are brilliant .

Yeah , absolutely brilliant . Um , and I thought the guy , I've forgotten his name cardinal um , it's , it's brilliant , a very important person yeah , it's .

It's the right level of camp .

Yeah , isn't it yeah , and whenever louis , just before his head is being chopped off and he thinks that he's talking to god and they're like no , you're just about to get your head chopped . There's enough tongue and cheek and stuff into it well , this is what I I liked about it .

I love the , the humor , um , and I I love the voices and this , this , the styles of music , as you said , like , really like I totally hear the kylie and then , but then you've got like brilliant ballads , like Champagne Dreams , and I'm going , oh , like it just seems to have everything and that's why I got lovely six vibes from it , because obviously that tongue

The only thing that I can think of is does six work better ? Because it is just six people on the band , on stage . This has more of a company , and is it too busy Too ?

many .

You know , do you maybe need it to only have six ?

people .

You know , you've got the Cardinal , the Marie .

Jean , just streamline it a bit .

Yeah , the part Millie plays . I can't remember the name there , but you know there's only a few characters rather than dancers as well . You know maybe that . Yeah , it does need to be more , especially if they're wanting that audience participation .

That's quite interesting you mention that , because actually the musical I ended up going with is like a six-hander .

Yeah .

Yeah , so that's cool .

So yeah , that is me so keep watching , then , or keep listening .

Keep listening and then watch this space for what comes of it .

Yeah , yeah , I think it would do really well on tour .

Yeah , it does have legs , so doesn't it , as a new , as a new works ? Yeah , like it's good .

Yeah .

I don't know if it would sit just being in town , I think it would be a better , but somewhere like the Arts Theatre , where Six started like it couldn't not do a run in there , like and see what happens .

Maybe , maybe .

Who knows ?

But that's really what the other palaces sort of turned out to be like more now . And if it didn't work there , you know , paul Taylor Mills is the boss there isn't he , you know , and anything he does is is good , you know .

So if he's got his backing behind it like , okay , just I , I would like to see it come to fruition you know what I mean . I think it deserves it yeah , and I think there seems to be a buzz around it at the moment , and certainly the people involved seem to be very positive about the future of it . So fingers crossed , yeah , absolutely Great

Well , thank you , well done .

I think you chose wisely there . Thanks On to me , then .

On to you , on to me . I love talking about me , even though it wasn't as good as yours .

No , I don't know if I agree with that . I was just like I was probably as punched at the short list I gave you . So Lauren gave me five as well . So the first one was EFX , and then we had Ruthless , the stage mother of all musicals . The first one was EFX , uh huh . And then we had Ruthless , the stage mother of all musicals .

Yep .

So Well , I go in order of what I listened and then how I came to my decision . So I actually listened to . I don't know why I actually really liked the logo or the poster for Ride .

Right , yeah .

So I listened to Ride and I was sure that was that's what I was going to do .

Because I was like .

I loved it . It's brilliant . Anybody who has not listened to it , listen to it . It's about the first female who cycled around the world . Yeah , it's like two . It's a two-hander , isn't ? It it's two women and that is it . Like that is the soundtrack , but oh , my goodness I the . Is it freya katrine sm Smith who is the lead .

I think I'm gonna do this and had you not listened to that before ? See , that was the one I sent and I thought maybe you've already I had listened to one out of the five , and that was it right .

So then I listened to , because you were like have you listened to it yet ? Have you listened to it yet ? Efx yeah now EFX .

I'm gonna shatter my childhood dreams here .

I don even I still don't know what it is . I just it was a lot , it was a lot , a lot , a lot . Mgm Grand Is that in Las Vegas ?

Yeah , so it is a hotel in Las Vegas , okay .

But was this a musical ?

Yes .

Or was this like a showcase kind of ?

So this was a musical in that was just commissioned for MGM brand .

Okay , all about special effects , right .

No , it's about a fantasy world .

He meets Merlin and he travels through See there's my problem Me and fantasy we don't tend to go together . It was an awful lot , but the main thing that put me off was Michael Crawford . Michael Crawford in his day was Michael Crawford wonderful right , I struggle with old Michael Crawford .

Well , I have David Cassidy . Yes , and you did send me a video and I appreciated the video yeah but I just went .

It's a bit much for me , I'm not gonna go with it . Now there's some songs that are very good . If somebody other than Michael Crawford sang them , then Only Fools and Horses I've been aware of and I've been a bit like I loved Only Fools and Horses on TV , loved it , loved it right .

It's so good .

So it is coming to the Opera House ? It is . Can we go and see it ?

Yeah , let's go .

Because I would love to see it and that was the musical I was going to do . It took over right for me . I didn't listen to Trees in the Musical because I'd already listened to it and it's brilliant . It , I think , has potential for the future , my goodness .

Yeah , yeah , with different performers , because we've had car um carrie hope fletcher and we've had lucy jones with brally jaden . There's been big names big names but it just hasn't had a production yet , so yeah , yeah , I'm kind of glad you didn't choose it .

Yeah , um , but I also wasn't aware .

Glad you didn't choose it , but . I also wasn't aware if you had listened to it .

Yeah , so I think I listened to it about a year ago maybe . Yeah that was when the second concert was just coming out , the one with Bradley Jaden and Cedric O'Neill , I think .

Yes .

Yeah , so I look forward to seeing what happens with it . I think , yes , yeah , so I look forward to seeing what happens with it . So it was only Fills and Horses until the last one I listened to was Ruthless .

Love it .

The stage mother of all musicals . You know me so well . I do , it is me , it is me , isn't it ? It's a bit of me .

It is hilarious .

It is me , it is me , isn't it ? It's a bit of me . It is hilarious , it is hilarious and it's really like . This podcast is weird , Lauren , because we mentioned in our last episode All Shook Up about I Love you , You're Perfect , Now Change , and it gave me I Love you , You're Perfect , Now Change vibes .

Okay , yeah .

So I have chosen Writhless . Love it , yeah , so I have chosen Ruthless , love it . Which is also one of the . Is it the old ? I think it's the oldest musical of the five you gave me .

Yeah , I think , yeah , oh , no , it definitely is , and it has a real old sound to it . Because of what it's mimicking An old musical , yeah , an old musical theatre like , but it is absolutely hilarious .

So Ruthless is the story of a naive 1950s housewife , judy . Now I should say the plot is ridiculous .

Oh , so convoluted .

So ridiculous and I'm not even going to go into the depths of the plot . Right , but it's about a naive 1950s housewife , Judy , and her adorable but psychopathic eight-year-old musical theatre loving daughter , Tina .

And I think you need to really highlight psychopathic oh , totally psychopathic .

I mean I think I've come across a few Tina's in my time . Tina is born to be on the stage and is encouraged by her manager , sylvia . Tina will do anything to get the lead role in her school play , and that includes murdering the little girl who's got the lead role . Yeah , she took her up to the eaves and she hung her .

Yeah .

She gave her an opportunity to give up the part . She didn't give up the part , so Tina took things into her own hands .

She did .

But I mean , you shouldn't laugh at things like that , but hilarious , absolutely hilarious , but hilarious , absolutely hilarious . In act two , whilst tina is spending time in a reform school for psychopathic ingenues , judy , her mother discovers from her adoptive mother . So judy is is adopted , right .

Yeah .

It is hilarious , irreverent . I think that's why I love it so , different from a lot of the other shows of the 90s Mm-hmm With potentially dangerous levels of overacting and high camp .

Yeah .

Like it's camp .

And it's early 90s , isn't it ? It was like 92 or something , yeah .

So Writhless Musical is an all-female musical and I did notice a bit of a . I don't know if you knew . Did you know that you were doing this when you gave me my musicals ? No , I had Ruthless , that was an all-female musical . Ride that was two females .

Yeah , I was like oh , I see what she's doing here . No , I didn't ?

Maybe not . So it's an all-female musical with music by Marvin Laird and books and lyrics by Joel Pally . That often spoofs musicals like Gypsy and Mame and also movies such as the Bad Seed and All About Eve .

Spears , I know how like what I mean secretly .

That's the main reason I chose it . Okay , I was like Natalie Portman and Brittany Spears were the understudies , like Emma May , as Brittany Spears didn't shove Laura Bell Bundy down the stairs to get on . Now that would have been ironic , wouldn't it ?

Oh , is it ? I couldn't quite find it . I knew what's on the stage . Anyway , sometimes they release . It was . There was like a snippet of it , and you could watch it for so many months or something . But I didn't realise it was still on there If it's still out there , shall we watch ? It together .

Yeah , yes , Because I was like maybe I should go and watch it , for obviously the pod , and I was like , no , if it's out there . Lauren and I watch it for the for obviously the pod and I was like no if it's out there , lauren and I'll watch it together and you're more than welcome to come to . Does this sound like your type of musical ?

We say all the time if you're the best person for the role , you should get the role , absolutely just like . If you're the best person for the role , you should get the role , absolutely just like . If you're the best person for the job , you should get the job .

That's it it was nominated for five drama desk awards in 1992 , including for laura bell bundy , joel pally as director uh , joel pally for his lyrics , and then Brilliant yeah , really good . So a bit like you , I didn't learn a huge amount from it , but my goodness , there was a lot of me in it .

Does that make ?

sense . So it just made me laugh and I wanted to share some of the lyrics from it Because they are so ridiculously hilarious , especially when it comes to musicals

right , it's like you wrote it . I tell you what um , she also sings .

She'll have to get over not starring this year . Into each life , rain falls . I'm afraid life's a bitch and it starts in third grade now . If only as professionals we could ever be that honest . Right , will I have a job after this ? Yeah , okay . So then when Judy's like questioning , well , where's this talent come from ? They sing this song .

Yeah , love it . It's so true though , isn't it ?

Like people who hate the theatre the most are theatre critics . It makes sense , doesn't it ? Yeah , and then Judy sings . Well , I feel sorry for her and everyone like her , because show people are doomed . Doomed to a lifestyle of booze , pills and heavy meals late at night . And that is fact .

No time now the school play .

I'm gonna try okay called pippi in tahiti oh , my goodness Because it sounds like a surefire hit right . Oh my goodness , Imagine doing a school play called Pippi in Tahiti . So Tahiti , situated in the central part of the Pacific Ocean . I'd heard of Tahiti but I never had any idea where it was the largest island of a group of islands in French Polynesia .

And .

Bora Bora is a small South Pacific island northwest of Tahiti , and they sing coconuts , mangoes , grass huts and , look , the Bora Bora Hilton . This must be Tahiti . And I'm Pippi . Pippi Sounds good , right ?

Hilarious too .

Yeah it . And like if you listen to it's a musical from something rotten yeah , and then listen to I hate musicals from ruthless yeah , like the two are perfect yeah in a playlist , aren't they . I mean , I learned nothing from it . I was affronted , but absolutely hilarious with some truth , sadly , it actually had me laughing out loud .

Yes , that's it . Where I was going . I was driving at the time and I was like this is so funny and so true . I think .

I listened to it about five times in a row because it , just as you said it , made me laugh . It warmed my cockles too . They sing . Honestly , if I want for the theatre , I'll go see a play with no singing and dancing to get in the way . This is just downright rude . Theatre is language .

Yeah .

The story is moving , chocked , full of suspense , the plot takes a twist , the mood is intense . Then someone sings a song like this . It just doesn't make sense . It's brilliant gangs , the hilarious . Because I love this ? Because it referenced loads of other shows yeah , so gangs don't look tough when they twirl and they snap referencing west side story .

She's over there isn't that brilliant , so funny , so funny and that that reminds me of my dad so much as well where he's just like I'll tell you how to solve a problem like maria she's over there , yeah great , it's brilliant so .

So good they then gave it a reprise . So when I hate musicals reprise how I hated Phantom down with the candelabra I took a book along and read through Les Miserables or no , it was Les Miserables .

Blah Blah .

When it comes to subtlety . My second on fell a hair short . If I want helicopters , I'll go to the airport . It's very true . Last lines , which sums this , show up beautifully , no matter who you're starring , I'm never enticed . It's way overpriced and I won't pay Because I hate musicals .

I think it was um tina's song . I was like born to perform like um whenever I was like little like oh , really yeah uh knew that little .

Did you know the context behind the whole show ?

no , didn't know it at all the psychopathic killer Tina also knew that it was Britney and it maybe came from , like Caitlin being obsessed with , like my sister being obsessed with Britney Spears or something , but knew that she was in it but I didn't know anything about it . So classified does .

Britney never talk about it in any of her interviews . That's what people want to hear .

Of course , time on Riffles Musical theatre .

Did she ever get on ? Did she feel like she wanted to be like Tina and like , push the you know , the lead actress , Laura Bell Bundy . I love that it's Laura Bell Bundy too .

We maybe should talk about it at some point no , I think we should especially well think of it if we go to see it like that would be good too to talk about it after we've seen it , and I would never have thought of going to see it .

I knew it had to be until I'd listened to it . Good .

I think we watched it . One of those like children in Children in Aid or Red Nose Day or something like that . And I was like do you know , I never watched , Only Fools and Horses .

Oh , I loved that .

I know my brother-in-law is a big fan , big , big fan , but I never watched it . I've seen a few episodes here and there , but I thought this works . This has legs and I like the man that is playing . What do you call him Paul ?

Paul Whitehouse .

Whitehouse playing . What do you call him ? Paul paul whitehouse ? I think he has something to do with it .

I think , yeah , um , and with I think the son of the original writer of the tv series , and I like that , like I was like that's really nice and I think that's why it's probably decent .

Yeah , and sure they're doing a big christmas run instead of like a pantomime they're doing a christmas run at the minute and Finney Jones is in it . Oh , interesting , so yeah , but no , I loved all of those choices yeah Ones that you give me .

Yeah , but there maybe take EFX off the list , but there is a list of nine , really great . No , listen to EFX , it's fine Listen to .

EFX . But you know what ? There's not very many songs in it . It's all music-based too .

Yeah , it was all just a lot .

It was a little bit of nostalgia . You see what happened . I'll tell you the story . My parents went to see it , Okay , and me and my sister were left in the room . So we then fantasized over this .

You know , I actually have a wee tiny violin at home that plays it's class .

No . So we then almost like , built this thing up , like what was it , and we just read the program and listened to the soundtrack and we just thought it would be amazing , but we actually didn't get to go see it and did they love it ?

absolutely adored it , even your dad , yeah thought it was good like the visuals , I'm sure yeah yeah , no , I'm saying , that did .

Maybe we did go and see it oh , lordy does we didn't go see it . It's late folks . Yeah , go and listen to all of those musicals that we mentioned . We'll put them up on the socials so that you can see them .

And let us know , once you've listened to them , what ones were your favourite ? Yeah , do Listen to new musical theatre people .

That's it .

We've been taught and if Britney Spears wants to come on the podcast to talk about her time on Ruthless , we'd be more than happy to have you Absolutely .

Anybody wants to come on the podcast , or Natalie ?

Portman yeah .

You know ? Uh , no problem , perfect , doors always open .

Yeah , we'll see you there did the second challenge episode live up to the first one ?

yeah , it was good it was good yeah , I do enjoy this yeah , no , it is definitely a good challenge . I do like discovering new musicals . I'm being forced to . I have to give something another go because I think , for me especially , sometimes I can just go . Oh , I didn't really love that fair um , I still haven't quite listened to um warriors .

And for now , let's go and eat cake Ha Bye .