Consider yourself... Oliver!

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Musical Lyrical Lingo with your hosts Tim and Lj.

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<v Speaker 2>Today and every week we will be talking musicals, and specifically what They taught us yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I closed my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>This time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done you.

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<v Speaker 1>I officially graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>I no longer lead the opening script.

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<v Speaker 2>That is good, go you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only taken 18 episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, people are going to get sick of this, and I, not the podcast, just me having a freak out over our intro, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel very proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you I feel like you need a sticker.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely need a sticker and a good slap.

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<v Speaker 1>As most people who know me would say in life you just need a good slap.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still dying, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you still got your recalls to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, still a little bit of a tickle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm alright, I'm going and holding next week.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't put any leave in.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going on holiday next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine if I was like sorry, the podcast comes first.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to go on holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be looking for a new co-host because I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you say.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, we all know that you didn't get on your camping trip.

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<v Speaker 1>No so we're terribly sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but I am going on holiday in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Where?

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>going.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to paint that.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I get there I'm going to sing Schmackango.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Smigadena, which I still haven't watched, and you know what I'm raging because I obviously got a new phone, like three months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you miss out on the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>I missed out on the first three months free deal, because my plan was wait until the summer, when I have a bit of time, but because I've been doing project I haven't had time until now.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I popped up my phone yesterday, today as the last day, and I don't know why I didn't there, and then go yeah, I'm stupid, like I need a good slap, like people say this, see shouldn't put off things.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to slap.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a wee bit awful for that, though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real bad trade of mine Been to the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've been doing project.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know I'm going to be on holiday and then I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be back to school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Italy next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I might not return because I might have melted away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very hot there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really warm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to complain because it's going to be a lovely holiday and it's a bit miserable here, but like I am slightly concerned that I'm going to be one of those people that's planning, Does plenty of sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 2>please promise me you'll bring sunscreen, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've got like factor 50 plus Good the custard, as I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it on regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>Cold jelly and custard.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it on regularly and I've got a few huts as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Good and just drink plenty of water, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And take shelter and shade yeah, and don't try and do anything too.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no performances at the Coliseum.

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<v Speaker 1>No Rage.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping and doing my rendition of 42nd Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, shucks to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll allow you to go On holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Gee, thanks Offly.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe what you should do is get another.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say you should get another presenter in next week when I'm not here, and then I should get a replacement for you when you're not here.

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<v Speaker 2>But they might be better than us, I know, and that could be the nail in the coffin, and then they would take over, not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, we'll just stick to our.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah Well, just we'll go and break, we'll have a wee break.

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<v Speaker 1>You said we were never having breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we won't have a wee break.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can do it in Italian I can't speak Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, as you know, from previous episodes when I tried to say things in Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll work around it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll work around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok, tell me if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine Shall.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about what we're doing, the musical we're doing this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose that's what we're here for, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>It is indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it worth the waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>You are good at this If we go till 84.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I'm literally just on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I know and I think maybe you should explain, so explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you all know, I've been doing a youth project with 160 odd children for the last two weeks where we had to put on a production of All Lever All Lever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was not planned this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, when we sat down to talk about this podcast Musical Lyrical Lingo we literally just did a big long list of musicals that we would want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just have the list and we literally are just working our way through the list.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't changed the order or anything like that, and it's really weird that All Lever has come up next and I've just finished All Lever.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were very good, elja.

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<v Speaker 1>You did text me the other day going well, you had forgotten what was coming next, hadn't you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a text from Lauren going what's the next show?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like All Lever with you know that emoji where, like you're covering your face, the hands are covering the face.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were very kind.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, well, do you want to just leave that for a while?

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, no, let's do it while it's fresh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So All Lever is a coming of age musical with book music and lyrics by Lionel Bart, and the music is based on the 1838 novel All Lever Twist by Charles Dickens, one of the best books ever written.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the best stories right there.

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder they turned into musical.

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<v Speaker 1>It opened in the West End in 1960, where it enjoyed a record-breaking long run running for 2,618 performances.

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<v Speaker 1>It then opened in Broadway in 1963.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one of those musicals that has just had numerous revivals.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's had London revivals from 1977 to 1980, then again in 1994 to 1998, and then 2008 to 2011.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's had a UK tour recently too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think actually Broadway, they might be doing like a workshop of it at the minute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the Lincoln Centre I think Is that what it keeps saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Little snippets of it on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I've seen the snippets on Instagram because I'm not on the TikTok-y.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course, it was made into a feature film in 1968, the film adaptation which won a massive 16 Academy Awards, including Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 1>So Oliver delves deep into the underworld of London and organised juvenile crime gangs of the Victorian era, with classic characters such as Little Orphan Oliver, pic Pocket, artful Dodger, gang leader Fagan and a prostitute with the heart of gold, nancy, and it follows Oliver's journey from the Victorian Workhouse to finally finding his home with the rich aristocrat like Mr Barlow.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's his?

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Lope, not Barlow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Carnation Street.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a relative who is actually his grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Oliver Done, ok, great Bye See you later Get your margin.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be like OK, I'm done, yeah, done.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I could go with three with it, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have slept and breathed this music for the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But I read nothing but wonderful things about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it went really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the kids were fab.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really hard thing to like put a show together in a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, such a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the majority of the kids only worked from 10 to 4 every day, with numerous breaks throughout the day, so it's not a huge amount of time, but they do it every year.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sort of addition to being in it, but it's not like it's a stage goal that you've just come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Over 400 children from across Northern Ireland had it and 160 were in the production.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge, it's really huge in the biggest theatre, certainly in Belfast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well done you and all the production team and everybody involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done the kids they were fantastic and they learned a huge amount like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really interesting and it just reminds you that as we worked through the project, there were bits and pieces in the different numbers and different lyrics that these kids were having to learn that we were finding ourselves having to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what you're singing?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what that means?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand what this line is saying?

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<v Speaker 1>So it just shows the premise of this podcast is spot on, lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations for the idea, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to us, though, because we're the most important people in this whole shebang.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any musical or lyrical angles for?

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<v Speaker 1>All of that I do.

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<v Speaker 1>What did it teach you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually a good number of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Fan plastic.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the wonderful food, glorious food, that I didn't know what grill was.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it taught that.

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<v Speaker 1>What is grill?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what grill?

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<v Speaker 2>is it's like a porridge, like a yucky porridge, yeah thin liquid like oatmeal can sit.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's in it, or what was in it back then?

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to make you bloke Oats, milk, water and onion.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I heard that onion, I was like no, thank you, doesn't sign a pail in for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it says so in food, glorious food, it has the Food, glorious food.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill of fare.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That that is a menu of dishes that are served, so not a menu that you can choose, like you know, just a set menu thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that meant.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called a bill of fare.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill of fare.

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<v Speaker 1>yeah, so when you go to a set meal, you're actually going to a bill of fare, bill of fare?

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<v Speaker 2>yeah, very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a cash C-A-D-G Okay, and that is to ask for, but you're not strictly entitled to it.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit like begging, isn't?

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<v Speaker 2>it, yeah, but yeah, it's slightly different, isn't it yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So the lyric is there's not a crust, not a crumb Can we find, can we beg, can we borrow or cash, which I always, when I was a kid singing that, thought it was catch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I always thought it was to.

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<v Speaker 1>Just us making the lyrics of the can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was just us making it, or we had just got the wrong lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Savalois or sausages, yeah, but they're like a specific type of sausage, aren't they?

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<v Speaker 1>Like red or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked them up on Google.

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<v Speaker 1>They look disgusting, highly seasoned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they're.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know a bit like how we have food in Northern Ireland which is just Northern Irish food.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Savalois are typical, like East End, like London or around London anyway, Like jelly deals yeah, I think Savalois and jelly deals yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like they get them in the chip shop and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so for us like pasties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the same thing, but it's similar.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder do they do a battered Savaloi I?

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<v Speaker 2>wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>That might make them look slightly better.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Because they don't look great.

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<v Speaker 2>They look almost waxy don't they?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they do Like pepperoni or pepperami gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>They're quite thick, are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Or the ones I saw were thin, or maybe worth thin, or maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've maybe just looked at the right idea.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, maybe you can get just different.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoops, oh my gosh, there's the outtake for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear goodness, did you have peas pudding?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had some.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had some.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had some.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I had some, I think I had some.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, dear goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have peas pudding?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm trying to move on really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I know Well, peas pudding was one of mine and actually my other halves.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>So they went to the girl at performance of the youth project and lent across and said that's a musical lingo when it came up.

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<v Speaker 1>So peas pudding is truly revolting.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked it up on Google too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a savory pudding dish made from boiled yellow peas, water, salt and spices and often cooked with bacon or a ham joint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen it and I know people can get it in like cans and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they were in Tesco and the sort Sent me a screenshot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like mushy peas and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a fan of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like refried beans, which would be a slightly similar consistency, but I don't like peas.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved well, I love chickpeas, you see.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of thought these, like yellow peas, might be similar, but they look too mushy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a chickpea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I do too, yeah, but no, but I love hummus.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Peas pudding doesn't look like hummus guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it was the first time I learned about indigestion, indigestion.

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<v Speaker 1>Cross your fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just come off my tablets for indigestion, so hope it doesn't come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Love hearts are really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Love hearts are really good yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get myself a bag of love hearts just to keep them in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I have to do, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather than being on stinkin' medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't can do that, there's only so much of the gathers gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that you can have.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, I don't want to have that chalky mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, terrible, okay, anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>People love us going off on a tangent lor.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine, I know, but not whenever we're talking about love.

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<v Speaker 1>Indigestion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your fault, it's your musical lyrical leg.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to say that that was the reason why I needed to eat so much was because of my bad acid reflux.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't excuse for me to eat more.

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<v Speaker 1>Root, absolutely root.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, oliver, yeah, the actual song, oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver, I'll just start each one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Are we singing?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's so fresh in here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you do that, so gluttony.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I learnt what gluttony was, and then from there I learned that there were seven deadly sins and gluttony was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So it kind of led on to a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And for anybody that doesn't know what the gluttony one of the deadly sins is, what's?

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<v Speaker 2>gluttony.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like overeating, yeah, and then Surely we're all like.

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<v Speaker 1>Gluttonous at some point, at some point yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily think it has to be just an overeating kind of thing different things as well or is it merely just for food?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a foodie kind of thing, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then G-L being spelt as G-A-O-L.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to be in J-A-I-L, yeah, and then that also made me, whenever I was older and then knew about crumbling road, g-l in.

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<v Speaker 1>Belfast yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that it was G-L because of Hallover, so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I still called it the Gail, the Gail, crumbling Gail.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that would be G-L ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, have you been there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I've seen a production of Macbeth there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, classy, and then about two, maybe two thousand, five, six or something like that, I went recently, like within the year, you know this last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Slow to step, and then about consider yourself and did it yourself Also with that, is it consider yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did we do that song in a pantomime?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I very vividly remember a dance routine.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not like me to remember a dance routine that wasn't part of our 10s trip, which we did constantly yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will like, even whenever the song's going on, I'll still do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder, can you remember?

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<v Speaker 2>See, this is why this needs to be filmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, yes, no, you're right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because, I remember that too.

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<v Speaker 2>And then da-da-da-da.

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<v Speaker 1>Scissors.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we scissor step?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, I think you didn't do like an upstage, downstage, all of her.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, We'll go back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>So Larder Days that's where I learned about Larder being a dry food store, yeah, and that the gross is like a large bird Bird Bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that people would have eaten, or people do eat, still eat, mm-hmm, then I'd do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Fisty Cuffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Fisty Cuffs For fighting For what Fisty Cuffs?

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<v Speaker 2>And then, from then I just knew that Tim Buck Too was really far away, so somewhere near China.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted mine too, and I thought it was a made-up word.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realise that Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck, too, was actually a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's in the city of Mali, situated 20 kilometres north of the Niger River.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so it's in Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was in China.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think it's in Africa Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it Another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think every word's in China.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Buck Too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was a made-up, mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when, um, where'd you lace my shoe?

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<v Speaker 1>Paint your face bright, but go a bit, go to Tim Buck Too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it goes, and back again, and back again.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, and you show musical lyrical lyrical, lyrical.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've still got more.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Pauline, pauline, shoo, I've got two more, I've got two more, I've got two more.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, papa, that a gratis means a free.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know that that word also meant a free.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just love that in the song revealing the situation, claridge is as mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>And reviewing Fagans Swanson, that's the last number in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I will own a suite to Claridge's.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come back to that on like a question about reviewing the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, I love that Claridge is as mentioned, because that's a wee special place.

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<v Speaker 1>What is?

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<v Speaker 1>What is Claridge's family?

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<v Speaker 2>but either doesn't know it's a lovely hotel, five star hotel in London.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've stayed in Claridge's, haven't you, lauren?

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of times, a couple of times, a couple of times when you've gone to London.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no slam in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not Very good Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had so many musical lyrical lingoes because, like any child on the planet, all of us like one of those ones that you're introduced to quite young and light business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's quite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Those type of musicals we always have loads more musical lyrical lingoes, because I'm the same.

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<v Speaker 1>A few of the food glorious food ones I also had then in that's your funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is when Oliver is being sold by Mr Bumble.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes him to a funeral parlor and the undertaker says he was born undertaker's mute, as in Mute, and a mute was basically a paid mourner who was paid to keep vigil outside the house and then lead the funeral possession.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says in the script about how Mr Soresbury, the undertaker, doesn't want to use his Oliver for normal practice, he wants to use it for the child's practice.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a child passed away in the Victorian era, they would have tried to have a child mute who would have led the funeral procession.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all that being a primary school teacher, I know that, god bless, the poor children of the Victorian era had many a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Timney sweeps a lot, but I didn't know that of that one or I was introduced to that one through Oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a very close relationship with Oliver and the Artful Dodger in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>You do Because I played the Artful Dodger when I was like 10, I think, when I learned when talking cockney you don't pronounce the H where there should be an H.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for example, instead of saying I happen to be a particular favourite of Mr Fagan, he would say I happen to be a particular favourite, and then you put an H where there isn't an H.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for example, I ain't got no intimate friends, so rather than intimate friends, it's intimate or I.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the other one I've got?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like an.

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<v Speaker 2>I is almost an H.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, where there's an I, you put an H in front of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So another one is I also didn't know that the beak B-E-A-K was a magistrate.

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<v Speaker 1>So he, artful Dodger, says don't tell me, you don't know what a beak is, my flashmate, my eyes, how green A beak is a magistrate for your hymn formation.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's another one where the H comes in front of the I.

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<v Speaker 1>So we learned that Gin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up and drink your gin.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that's what my mother was drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah that she drank the same gin that was in Oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the children were drinking gin in the Victorian times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was vivid in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah then in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Fine Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy sings about gin toddies.

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<v Speaker 1>A large measure, and now skimping, if you please.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what a gin toddy was.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what a?

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<v Speaker 2>gin toddy is Well, it seems, a hot toddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what a hot toddy is.

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<v Speaker 2>What, timothy, you surprised me week on week.

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<v Speaker 2>Why have you not had a hot toddy?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't like warm alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, but if you're sick, actually for your flim, flim, flim For your thing, your job, you should have a wee hot toddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I might try one tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So a hot toddy for anybody out there listening, wherever you may be.

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<v Speaker 1>A gin toddy in particular is 40 millilitres of gin, 50 millilitres of hot water, 20 millilitres of freshly squeezed lemon juice, one tablespoon of honey and maybe a wee cinnamon stick with a slice of lemon or orange to garnish.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a gin toddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, that's, which is quite a sophisticated drink for an aunt, Say.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have thought she'd have been so lardy down uppity.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, suppose, for things like that she uses a remedy.

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<v Speaker 2>So All of the like you know, your lemon and your honey and your cinnamon, will be widely, more widely used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're natural products, so they would have been able to get their hands on them a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I much prefer gin with a tonic, to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>But your hot toddy then is whiskey and coffee, hot water.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that you put the coffee in with the whiskey.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just a warmed whiskey.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do whiskey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the one no I can't, but if I'm really sick I will take a hot toddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get it down?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like a hot limce.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gagging everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like whoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe is that why I have the coffee in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, maybe, the disguise to taste a bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I really can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried whiskey and even if you're like having a great wee night and you get under the cocktails, right and you get a cocktail with whiskey in it and you didn't, you like I haven't realised there's whiskey in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I will immediately suss it out and be like oh, I can't actually drink that because it's got whiskey in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know do not like whiskey at all.

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<v Speaker 1>See these people who just sit and drink a thing of whiskey Like my dad, GME would do the same and iron Like irons I'm a massive like.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniels fan, I can't smell them.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't smell them Our Adam loved.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the hot Jack Daniels, like this spicy one, oh, the cinnamon one, the cinnamon one, until he, totally like, drank himself quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't touch it now, can you smell it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty sure I didn't do that too with it.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, my last musical lyrical lingo before we go down another tangent.

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<v Speaker 1>Drink responsibly, folks, please Thank you, know your limits and stop there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our public services announcement.

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<v Speaker 1>In Um Papa, she sings loads of different verses about different characters around the place, and one of the characters she sings about this girl, and she says she was from the country, but now she's up the gum tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what a gum tree is?

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<v Speaker 1>No, we staged it that she was pregnant, basically Okay, and that's what I always thought it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Gum tree means you're pregnant, but gum tree actually is a very difficult situation that you can't get yourself out of.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it necessarily means you have to be pregnant, but you're in a difficult situation that you don't know how you can get out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a gum tree Up the gum tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Because up the country means you're living a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she was living a good life and then she got herself pregnant, which meant she was in a situation that was very difficult to get out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's cool yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are my musical lyrical lingoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I love and I love that you were still learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, 100%.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day's a learning day, Every day's a skill day, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was more important over the last two?

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<v Speaker 2>weeks was the learning that the children did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it Sharing our knowledge to a new generation of musical theatre kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually warms my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's not an art form that's dying anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of how many art cuts there are, no Try stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>You know young people singing and dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be there with plaque hearts if it does.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, here, hairspray style.

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<v Speaker 2>Here I have some facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any facts?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few of facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Do you want to play facts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll do facts and then do memories Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So, oliver, whenever.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously the book is much darker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a Charles Dickens.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which he is he is a bit dark, Real life sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly at that time he was very good at depicting what life was really like for Victorian Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason that people really love Oliver and maybe don't find it as dark and we'll talk about that is because it's all seen through Oliver's eyes so it sort of seems sweet and innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's really honest about workhouses, orphans and, yeah, just poor situations for some adults.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to really like that, didn't they?

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<v Speaker 1>For the musical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, though I still don't think it's a light musical.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at any films of Oliver Twist or any TV like, it's one of those ones that just like, every couple of years it gets another TV adaptation.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are all so dark and gritty and violent.

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<v Speaker 1>And which is what?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, our first topic in school is the Victorians, yeah, and like it was a really like hard time to live, yeah, but I think they had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were going to have kids singing and dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to have to lighten up a wee bit, weren't?

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<v Speaker 2>they.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think it worked because you're seeing it through Oliver's eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of these things that he has been introduced to.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't necessarily know that Bill is very hurtful towards Nancy.

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<v Speaker 2>He just, you know, maybe thinks he's a bit controlled, or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Although, no, I'm the disease rats are bringing the plague in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying of death in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a line from the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The disease rats Threaten to bring the plague in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fine life, okay, sorry, no, I am coughing and spluttering.

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<v Speaker 1>I do apologize to the listeners, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, michael Key, in addition for the original Bill Sykes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that and also the line.

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<v Speaker 2>So the wonderful Oliver Ray was Bill Sykes in the film and his aunt directed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the line in Do you Love Me, where Nancy says, Do you Love Me?

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, of course I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I live with you, don't I?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an.

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver Ray came up with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he overheard in the in the East End overheard a slightly ridder version.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Where uh Bloke said to a girl of course I do I something, you, if you can, uh just not want to say, and because he was a method actor, um, he's a restraining character, but yeah, he came up with that line and part of that method acting was he decided and the director decided to keep him away from the children.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so actually the children in the film were genuinely a bit scared of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he was always in costume.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in character as well, but there was a distance between him and and the kids, which I thought was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, did you know that Shirley Bassey was considered for Nancy?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not Mm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, I'm not so sure that would have worked.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't think that um people were ready for a black Nancy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really sad, mm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, yep, that's a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Um yeah, there are a lot of facts I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how many, how many?

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<v Speaker 1>How long do you think it took for them to record?

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<v Speaker 1>Consider yourself in the film Gosh, that like sequence, that dance sequence of that um musical number, probably the biggest one in the in the in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Six days.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks Shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they spent three weeks filming that once.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you'd have been so bored of it, wouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because?

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like they're just doing it for like three minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one day they're probably were constant.

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<v Speaker 1>Endless, totally endless, although I know film is quite slow and probably even slower back then, but still.

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<v Speaker 1>Um, and then Mark Lister, who was Oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>His voice wasn't actually up to snuff, so his singing was dubbed by a Kathy Green, whose father was the film's music arrangement.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he, it's not his voice, she here in the singing parts, oh, um, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this blows my mind, because the music like.

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<v Speaker 1>The music is brilliant, and Oliver Lionel Bort's music.

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<v Speaker 1>But amazingly, the composer, lionel Bort, could not read music himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So from his earliest days in the theater he would sing his melodies to a trained pianist who'd would write it down on sheet music.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's hope for me, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There is hope.

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<v Speaker 1>There's hope for us all yeah, just whistle a happy tune and someone will write it to get the right person and someone will write down and then I love the other we um.

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<v Speaker 1>Trinket of a fact I found out was, you know, the bit in the film where Oliver oversees Fagan basically having a look at his secret stash of treasure, exactly the director, who just sounds amazing like she sounds really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's a massive part of why that film's so brilliant and you can just watch it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't happy with Mark Lister's reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, just seeing the treasure so unbeknownst to him.

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<v Speaker 1>On another take of that part, she got Ron Muddy, who is sublime as the Fagan and there has not been a better one since and he played it on stage as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He came from stage to the film only one of a few that transferred from stage to film.

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<v Speaker 1>He hid a white bummy in his pocket, so he wasn't being filmed.

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<v Speaker 1>There was Mark Lister's reaction was being filmed, so behind the camera he pulled a white bunny rabbit out of his pocket and that reaction from the wee Oliver is what's in the final cut of the film, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love film Clever, really clever, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some good facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Some good facts.

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<v Speaker 1>What about memories then?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have many memories?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So definitely consider yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that routine, I could still do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I did, and it's very room.

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<v Speaker 2>We would have done little snippets.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling that I might have played better.

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<v Speaker 1>And here you are sitting going.

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<v Speaker 2>I never played a part?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you know what I think?

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<v Speaker 2>I've just made it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you sing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Then I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like a spy shoe, but I don't think I did it for like a before.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe I just auditioned, Never mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, one of my connections well, it's not really a connection is, it's one of.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the first time I heard adults talk about a performance from a child and it was you, what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I remember we had tickets, I wasn't involved in it, stage down stage, and I remember adults talk about are you going to see it?

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<v Speaker 2>And we were going.

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<v Speaker 2>We usually always went like the last night of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're going, and such and such have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you should see the wee boy that plays the artful dodger.

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<v Speaker 2>He is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Aww.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember being like isn't that too funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally you throw me under the bus in these podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Really lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, it was actually not that adults talk bad about kids or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just remember actually really going like, and then I was really excited to see you because I had heard and then you were totally let down.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not, and I remember seeing you.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I remember that you were a really good, artful dodger.

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<v Speaker 1>And then your other friend, your other good friend, played Oliver and I wouldn't have known her at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember it's probably the first main role I ever played was the artful dodger and I just loved it and, like you did feel really special, like, and they made like a dodger coat especially for me and they remember them coming down and fitting me for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And like it was just beautiful and I still have it like to this day, and it's just, it's really lovely to look back at.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I remember, whenever we did it then, that within that same year there was like an arts festival or a music festival that just so happened to be being held in Bangor, where loads of like different amateur companies came from all around Ireland and I have no idea how they did it because it was like the get in, like they would have got in one person's show and during the day they would have done that show once.

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<v Speaker 1>That night then they would have taken out their set and brought in the next.

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<v Speaker 1>And we we took part in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just remember the sense of occasion, of like sharing our show with people from like across Ireland, which was really really lovely and special and you only had one go with it you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, which was so I remember, was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was called the Festival of Light Opera or something like that, and it was held in different places on different years and it just so happened that year was in Bangor.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then fast forward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the when I started choreographing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those shows that I'm probably most proud of in choreographing because it was still quite early, I was still quite young, maybe late teens, early twenties and we did it in a really small pokey theatre called the Web Theatre, which is tiny, like it's so tiny, the playing space is so tiny, but I just I like remember really loving, loving, working on it, working with the kids, especially the, you know, the Dan kids, who have like basically they're on stage for 30 minutes, like they just go from you know, pick a pocket into it's a fine life, into I do anything, and to be back soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and I just remember that chunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like just having a ball working with them and being really proud of what we established.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the dog who wasn't in Oliver, but it's now that one around the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that TV program they did based on Oliver?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I?

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<v Speaker 2>I have just spent the last 24 hours watching it from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>You did not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all on YouTube, so obviously we researched.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like well, wonders, are any little snippets?

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<v Speaker 1>on because we know people that were in that, but there was at least two local girls that were in it and it was like a big.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big, like it was on the BBC.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was, and that's one of the big TV channels.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I find it on YouTube and watch the whole thing and I still love it, Like I, but I loved all of those those shows anyway, but I recommend anybody don't rewatch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder if they rewatch it back, because there's, I think, that one in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they did a feud and they did a find a Joseph, they find a Maria for sounding music, then they did a Nancy one.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they did Dorothy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they did a Dorothy one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming back though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing a although I think it's ITV this time, Okay, and they're trying to find a leading male and female for Mamma Mia.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're trying to find a sky and Sophie for Mamma Mia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's great, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Loads of really fantastically talented people have come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Samantha Barks, who is now Elsa, and Frozen came from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like her, I think, did she come third, maybe she came third yeah, and like she has like had like such a career since you know she did.

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<v Speaker 1>And her future is is touring as Miss Hannigan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also in Cronation Street and she was in, like tell me on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have Jessie Buckley, who is fantastic, just been nominated for an Oscar and won an Olivier for Cabaret yeah, and she, like she was my winner.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't win, but she was my winner.

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<v Speaker 1>She was second.

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<v Speaker 1>And then who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Tucker, who's a Belfast girl who was in like Alphaba, in like Wicked in London and then went to Broadway and has done Come From Away and stuff like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all those programs it seems to be the most successful.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have Neve Perry, who we went to Stygical with Banger Girl who was in the original cast of Andrew Lord Webber's Love Never Dies.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Mama Mia, and she's currently in Crest Show Harry Potter yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>I know?

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<v Speaker 2>And actually whenever I then obviously whenever you watch something, well, I do, I'm obsessed with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to know what some of the girls had gone on to do, and the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah then ended up being one of the floor settling girls and then she was the understudy.

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<v Speaker 2>But she goes out like fourth or fifth or something like that, and it's just really interesting that she ends up being the understudy and not number two or number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's it Like, if you think of American Idol, like Jennifer Hudson, I think in her series of American Idol.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the seventh and she's got an E, got you know, like an M a Grammy and Oscar Anatone Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's very cool yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I watch it all on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you've watched it from start to finish, so I know, but you know what it was really good to see.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a real passion for musical theatre because they were also looking for all the first two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the different tasks and everything, some people really didn't like those, don't like those type of shows.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I found it really entertaining, so it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a job I would love to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like love to be like a resident choreographer and on like kiddie shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd love to be in charge of the kids and keeping you know their performances fresh and teaching you know new grips are coming into the show, teaching them the show, you know their routines and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like working on like an Oliver or a Matilda, I would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, that's like my dream job, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, it would probably get a bit monotonous, probably not because the cast changes so much and then you've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>they have so many rehearsals in case somebody's sick or somebody's out and you know day off, yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know so probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Although saying that this production of Oliver that I've just done is, I think, my like eighth or ninth one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Again we're doing it again.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not find with Oliver.

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as bad as Annie oh give me an Oliver over an Annie any day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, 100% Like, and actually doing this project, this project, recently I realized oh, I still haven't done an Oliver in school.

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<v Speaker 1>And like it is a career plan to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a great.

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<v Speaker 1>So I might bite the bullet and do it like a tenth time in a couple of years time as a school show, because it is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>There's loads for the kids to do and the kids enjoy it Like they love being naughty and we pick pockets and you know, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I also learned how to.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot to say well, my horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of reviewing the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reviewing and see in that song at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it sounds like Canon days?

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<v Speaker 1>It's because it's a violin solo, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, it's definitely is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just done it for two weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know it might be, but that's not why it reminds me of Canon days.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find a similar the way it starts, go and listen to it and like have it on, but don't think that it's really in the situation I've just listened to these songs for the nonstop, for the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is a violin and you're asking me no, it's not that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're asking me to go away and listen to it again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely at the beginning, where it's like Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, I'll go and listen to it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to me I was like, oh, that's right, okay, that might just be for me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I will go and listen to it, but I do think there's like a violin, and canadaise as well isn't there?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's all like Frenchy and yeah, maybe it is, but anyway, I just always think at the beginning of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I should be going into canadaise, but it doesn't it's very different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just maybe like a couple of beats.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like an actor's dream, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a silhouette.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just him on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of Rowan Ackneson?

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<v Speaker 2>Just obviously cast recording or Um okay, yeah, I thought I can never say his name, is it Omar?

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<v Speaker 1>Omar yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I thought he was really good yeah, he took over after.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the latest Jerry Lane revival, isn't it that?

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that Jerry Lane was in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one yeah any, Any standardizations?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think just vegan To play it.

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<v Speaker 2>But to get the audience liking you at the same time is a task in itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree he's a really complex character, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he has to play both sides, like he is a crook and he is a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I had a moment of realization.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a bit embarrassing that I'm even sharing this during this production that we've just done.

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<v Speaker 1>Vegan puts the hit out for Nancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he gets scared, doesn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so basically their cover's been blown because Oliver gets caught on his first pickpocket in outing and ends up in the Brownlow household which turns out to be his grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know that because that's the pocket he picked.

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<v Speaker 1>And then basically they're worried about what Oliver will have said and that he'll have blown all of their cover.

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<v Speaker 1>But so then basically Nancy is bullied into snatching him back again and bringing him back.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Oliver comes back to the den, basically there's a bit of a conflict between Nancy, bill Sykes and Fagan and Fagan says you basically look after her bill, but you need to get rid of her bill before she wins her trap because I think she threatens to squeal on the whole lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so Bill Sykes kills Nancy like plot twist, in case anybody's didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he comes back with Oliver and Fagan's like you brought him back here, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he says is it done?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize that, fagan, actually I just thought Bill Sykes murders Nancy because it's Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Sykes, and that's him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though he's supposed to love her, he doesn't love her.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was Fagan and I was only watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned to Bex and I was like is it Fagan that tells Bill to kill Nancy?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was completely shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>See constantly learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Constantly learning, Although there's loads of musical theatre fans that'll be listening to that going.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really stupid, timid, you didn't put up on that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because it probably just depends on how somebody plays it you know, and how you interpret it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy's my standing ovation, do you?

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<v Speaker 2>agree that people say fine life is her anthem, rather than I do anything, no rubbish.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do Her anthem is neither of those.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as long as he needs me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, did you say the wrong one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of the talk about the show which is called idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, her anthem is as long as he needs me.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the actress does it properly, it rips your heart out, throws it on the floor and you stamp on it several times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's brilliant and I think from re-watching that show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing to see how people could play it so differently.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you can play it very, you know, I don't know, and then do the big belters and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's those moments where you feel that hurt and that angst and that that's it, because she is a tart with a heart Like.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a prostitute that's her character.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she does to get the money in.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>But she has a heart like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>No not really, and I'm now going.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the next musical is.

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<v Speaker 1>To give a clue no and do you know what I don't either, but Hold on, I'll have a wee look here.

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<v Speaker 1>Look how prepared we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting, you would think, after I can't remember what episode it is 18 episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd know what we're at now, ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could give a clue for a musical and we could just Just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so you're giving me free reign here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to put my self out here on a limb.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be jumping over the moon, jumping over the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Jumping over the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing to do is jump over the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't looked at you so.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be really really good musical theatre fans, so I'll get that clue Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will and Lauren is completely clueless.

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<v Speaker 1>I am completely clueless.

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of something, but then I'm like I'm probably in the wrong direction, so I'll just stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you want another one, or leave it at that?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's leave it at that, we're all good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see you next week after our holly bulbs Well mine anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye, Bye.