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Music Ed Insights

Dr. Steve Shanley and Alan Feirermusicedinsights.com
Dr. Steve Shanley, Alan Feirer, and national thought leaders explore current issues in music education, with practical application for K-12 music educators.
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Episodes

Summer Strategies: Combating Loneliness and Supporting New Teachers

In this episode, Steve and Alan explore meaningful ways to spend summer break. They discuss combating isolation by nurturing friendships, pursuing personal interests, and providing support to new teachers. Their conversation offers practical insights into maintaining connections and finding purpose during the break, with a focus on professional and personal well-being.

Jun 02, 20258 minEp. 192

How to do a Conference with Dr. Rodney Dorsey LIVE

Recorded in front of a live audience at IBA, Alan and Steve talk with Dr. Rodney Dorsey about maximizing the conference experience, work-life balance, and other lessons learned from a lifetime in music education.

May 19, 202544 minEp. 190

Quick Pro Tip: The Value of Bringing in Outside Voices

Longtime listener and educator Kyle Engelhardt joins Alan and Steve to talk about the power of bringing in outside clinicians. From leadership development to jazz programming, Kyle shares how working with trusted experts helped elevate his students and strengthen his program. Whether you're a veteran or new to the profession, this is a great reminder that you don’t have to do it all alone.

May 12, 20259 minEp. 189

Quick Pro Tip: How One School Made Professional Development Work for Music Teachers

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve welcome longtime listener Michael Kosiek and Carlisle High School principal Andrea Hoekstra. They share how Carlisle’s flexible approach to professional development allows teachers—especially music educators—to focus on learning that’s relevant to their subject areas. Hear practical advice for how teachers and administrators can work together to create PD that truly supports professional growth.

May 05, 20259 minEp. 188

Quick Pro Tip: Give Compliments – the Why and How

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve unpack what makes a compliment truly meaningful—especially in the classroom or rehearsal setting. From specificity to timing to structure, they share practical ways to reinforce good behavior, boost motivation, and show appreciation in a way that actually sticks. Whether you're working with students or colleagues, this quick tip will help you give compliments that make a difference.

Apr 28, 20254 minEp. 187

Quick Pro Tip: Are Secondary Music Teachers Doing Too Much?

Alan and Steve respond to a message from a listener who asks a bold but important question: Are high school music teachers doing too much? From overloaded calendars to student burnout, they explore what drives the packed schedules—and how to lead strong programs without running ourselves or our students into the ground.

Apr 21, 20254 minEp. 186

Quick Pro Tip: How to Lead Well by Stepping Back During a Clinic

Alan and Steve explore how directors can model effective leadership during a clinic or festival rehearsal. It’s tempting to jump in, redirect, or show what you already know—but great leadership in these moments often means knowing when to step back. With practical advice on professional etiquette, communication, and presence, this episode helps you get the most out of your guest clinician—for your students and for yourself.

Apr 14, 20255 minEp. 185

Empowering the Next Generation of Musicians with Chuck Dickerson

In this episode, Alan and Steve sit down with Chuck Dickerson, the Founder and Music Director of the Inner City Youth Orchestra of Los Angeles (ICYOLA). Chuck shares his insights on the importance of increasing diversity and representation in classical music, and provides actionable strategies for K-12 music educators to make a difference. From incorporating music across the curriculum to advocating for policy changes, Chuck offers a roadmap for teachers to engage underrepresented students and c...

Apr 07, 202527 minEp. 183

Quick Pro Tip: How to Prep Your Students for a Successful Clinic

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve discuss simple but powerful ways to prepare students for clinics and guest rehearsals. From body language and eye contact to answering questions and teacher prep, this conversation offers practical tips for band, choir, orchestra, and general music teachers—especially during festival season. Help your students make the most of these valuable learning moments with confidence and professionalism.

Mar 31, 20257 minEp. 182

Classroom Management Strategies with Jenny Gee

Steve and Alan learn from Jenny Gee, a professor, researcher, and experienced music teacher, about effective classroom management techniques, especially in the post-pandemic environment. Gee shares practical advice and research-backed strategies that teachers can use to address behavior challenges, build relationships with students, and create engaging, safe learning environments.

Mar 24, 202534 minEp. 180

Does it hold up? Including Students with Special Needs with Alice Hammel

In this re-release, Alan and Steve revisit their conversation with Dr. Alice Hammel about how and why students with special needs can and should be included in music classes and ensembles. This episode remains one of the most impactful in Music Ed Insights history, offering practical strategies and a shift in mindset that can help every teacher create a more inclusive and effective learning environment. Whether you're hearing it for the first time or listening again, this discussion is full of v...

Mar 17, 202530 minEp. 178

Quick Pro Tip: Exploring the Pros and Cons of Loyalty in Music Programs

In this insightful discussion, Dr. Matthew Armstrong, Director of Choirs at Wayne State College, engages co-host Alan Feirer in an exploration of the complex topic of student loyalty to music teachers and programs. They examine the potential benefits and pitfalls of cultivating strong loyalty, drawing on their extensive experiences to provide valuable perspectives for music educators. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how to foster a healthy, inclusive program culture that balances l...

Mar 03, 202518 minEp. 175

Quick Pro Tip: Selecting Quality Elementary Literature with Lucas Petersen

Co-host and composer Steve Shanley gets Dr. Lucas Petersen to share a practical process of evaluating the quality of music written for performance ensembles of beginners in their first couple of years of playing. We’ll learn five easy criteria to apply: balance and structure, uniqueness/surprises, consistency, genuineness/ingenuity, and craftsmanship/orchestration.

Feb 24, 202521 minEp. 174

Quick Pro Tip: Rethinking Your Ensemble’s Seating Chart

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve introduce a second “rule” for music educators: Have a reason for what you do—and what you don’t do. They apply this idea to ensemble setup, exploring how different seating arrangements can improve balance, blend, and student engagement. Whether you teach band, choir, or orchestra, this episode offers fresh perspectives on getting the best sound from your group.

Feb 17, 20256 minEp. 173

Hip-Hop Integration with Kiran Vedula

Steve and Alan talk with musician, producer, educator, and founder of Hip Hop DNA Kiran Vedula about integrating hip-hop into the music classroom. Kiran shares practical strategies for teaching foundational hip-hop concepts like rhythm, layering, and improvisation, as well as tips for fostering creativity and collaboration with students. They discuss the cultural significance of hip-hop, sampling, and using technology like Soundtrap to make beats. Kiran also shares about his nonprofit Flutes at ...

Feb 10, 202529 minEp. 172

Quick Pro Tip: Use "In Order to Do My Best Work" to Set Clear Expectations

Alan shares a simple but powerful approach to improve collaboration: using the phrase “in order to do my best work.” Learn how this tactic can help you communicate needs effectively and reduce stress, whether working with colleagues, administrators, or students. This tip is valuable for all music educators—band, choir, orchestra, and general music teachers alike.

Feb 03, 20255 minEp. 170

Empowering Students in the Music Classroom with Theresa Hoover

In this episode, Alan and Steve talk with educator, podcaster, speaker, and author Theresa Hoover about practical strategies for empowering students in music education. They explore ways to give students more ownership over their learning, including soliciting feedback, incorporating student-led activities, and encouraging creativity and composition. The conversation also covers common challenges and how to overcome them when implementing student-centered approaches. Whether you teach elementary...

Jan 27, 202526 minEp. 168

Quick Pro Tip: Simplifying Copyright and Exploring the ArrangeMe Platform

Steve and Alan demystify common copyright misconceptions and introduce the ArrangeMe platform, a valuable resource for music educators. Learn how to legally arrange music for your groups, explore the benefits and limitations of ArrangeMe, and discover why copyright matters across band, orchestra, choir, and general music settings. Tune in for practical advice and insights that every music teacher can use.

Jan 20, 202512 minEp. 167

Expanding the Choral Canon: Marques Garrett on Programming Choices Part 2

Steve and Alan talk with professor, author, composer, and choral director Marques Garrett about the importance of diversifying choral programming and elevating non-idiomatic works. Garrett shares fascinating personal experiences learning about the rich musical heritage within historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), where choirs have long championed non-idiomatic compositions by Black artists. Garrett discusses the challenges of broadening repertoire choices, the historical context ...

Jan 13, 202537 minEp. 166

Expanding the Choral Canon: Marques Garrett on Programming Choices Part 1

Steve and Alan talk with professor, author, composer, and choral director Marques Garrett about the importance of diversifying choral programming and elevating non-idiomatic works. Garrett shares fascinating personal experiences learning about the rich musical heritage within historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), where choirs have long championed non-idiomatic compositions by Black artists. Garrett discusses the challenges of broadening repertoire choices, the historical context ...

Jan 06, 202531 minEp. 163

2024 Year in Review

Steve and Alan talk about the past year and preview a bit of what’s coming up in early 2025.

Dec 17, 202415 minEp. 162

Keeping Ensembles in Time and in Tune

Alan and Steve talk to orchestra director Chris Selby about effective ways to improve musical clarity through intonation and rhythm.

Nov 18, 202430 minEp. 160

Quick Pro Tips: Why Articulations Matter—More Than You Think

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve tackle one of the most overlooked aspects of music instruction: articulations. While this topic is essential for band directors working with woodwinds and brass, the conversation also holds valuable insights for orchestra, choir, and general music teachers. Discover why articulations are as crucial as notes and rhythms, and how understanding “music as a language” can elevate your teaching approach.

Nov 11, 202411 minEp. 157

Music as a Birthright: A Conversation with Leila Ramagopal Pertl

Steve and Alan explore the ways any K-12 educator can implement the philosophy of music as a student birthright in their classrooms and schools. They discuss strategies for increasing access and opportunities for student creativity and composition, as well as building relationships with administrators to strengthen music education programs. Guest Leila Ramagopal Pertl shares her insights on empowering students as musical beings and serving the whole child through general music.

Nov 04, 202440 minEp. 155

Quick Pro Tips: Engage Students and Reduce Stress by Delegating These Three Things

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve share a simple strategy to engage students and reduce stress through effective delegation. Learn how to delegate tasks in three categories: Organize, Teach, and Appreciate. From managing classroom materials to teaching peers and showing gratitude, these strategies empower students while giving you more time to focus on what matters. Tune in for practical tips to make your teaching life easier!

Oct 28, 20248 minEp. 154

Easy Social/Emotional Learning Implementation in your Classroom with Ryan Scherber

Alan and Steve sit down with professor Ryan Scherber to explore ways that teachers can integrate social and emotional learning (SEL) into their music classrooms. Scherber provides an overview of key SEL competencies and emphasizes the importance of understanding trauma-informed pedagogy. The discussion covers specific, actionable strategies that music educators can use to foster critical social-emotional skills, from breathing exercises to collaborative composition projects. Scherber also addres...

Oct 21, 202430 minEp. 152

Quick Pro Tips: Reduce Planning Time Stress with the "Pecking Order" Approach

In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve introduce a simple "pecking order" strategy to help music educators prioritize planning tasks and reduce stress. Learn how to categorize tasks based on urgency—starting with immediate student needs, teammate collaboration, administrative requests, and parent communication. Tune in for a practical method to streamline your planning and stay focused on what matters most!

Oct 14, 20247 minEp. 151

Lessons from a Reflective Teacher: Kelli Pence on Engaging Students and Handling Challenges

Recorded in front of a live audience, Alan and Steve sit down with renowned band director Dr. Kelli Pence to learn from her wealth of experience. Kelli reflects on her early teaching days, sharing the mistakes she made and the strategies she's developed over the years to effectively engage students and manage classroom challenges - including dealing with those dreaded "nasty grams" from parents. Kelli also shares invaluable insights from her mentors, like the legendary Mallory Thompson, on the i...

Oct 07, 202424 minEp. 149
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