Unapologetically Santwon Ft. Santwon McCray

our world from our prospective. It's your girl, Justina Valencine and I'm here with my girl, the one, the only be Simone and uh you know what, yeah, baby girl, we have a very special guest today. Be So I'm excited for today's podcast. How are you living? How you feeling? I'm good. I'm over here smacking. I'm trying to, you know, set my face real quick. But we got on here. I'm so excited. That's my phone, yes girl, my finger. I don't know how to take it off the them.

I'm gonna put my phone on airplane. Put it on airplane, girl, you fly, do not discern they got this new um what is it called? The plant based meat? You wouldn't even know. So I wouldn't even you gave up meat. Well that's good because our guests today les than meat. I'm playing, but I'm saying I ain't had meat year, girl. I'm so sorry. Well it's it's one of my favorites on the show. Um, you know what I mean. He really impressed me. He came to the wild style, he wrote.

He also gave the ladies a soas he goes toe to toe in the wild style, and that's our boot Stine. Hey, baby, oh my god, what's up? We're already told now you know my blood person and the rent, you know, but weve to live in color. Baby. We're in this bitch. We are six ft above ground and we're blessed. So I'm grateful to be here front of these beautiful technical difficulties. I didn't have no textical difficulties. They're never wrong. My

test over here, that's your all. Yeah, because I was like, wow, okay, since one, he's kind of stole a little new to be this bougie, you know what I mean. But he had to get them test together. We had to get it right, get it tight, Jesus. But we figured it out and we're up there here now. So I know y'all couldn't see him, but he had a little surprise for us. Victoria's trying to chell my secrets. Jesus, is

that a secret? And who's Victoria? Hello? Well, you know I'm trying to do a little some of my skin breathe, you know. Um, I'll be honest. I do wear units, and they are, you know, partly a blanket and partly a crown. Because I do, I'll be a hundred and fifty with it, and I do wear units, but I wanted to let my hair breathe from minute. So I'm giving you very much blackness, a clean Yes, Yes, he got the fresh ball, the same thing. I mean, if they take the guard maybe a little word, I would

be bald. I almost did the Jada Pinkett, but I was like, hold on, we're gonna have to do Holly Berry it. I don't know if I look I like that length on you. Baby. She has a face for it. She definitely is a face for it. Because you know, my ass couldn't go bold. I'd be definitely call me justin. I already know we already do ye right, So I'm definitely I wouldn't already do it, right, but it looks

good on your baby Smash for sure, thank you. I don't know if if that's a compliment or you know, but anyway, you're like, God, so you telling me you are smash, I'm like, is it still a jab? I can't be sure. You know these queens, I here a picky girl. So that's a good thing, okay for good Well, Sanswan. For the people who don't know you, because you have been like killing it since you've been on the show, give us a little backstory on who Santwan is um pre wild or like just kind of my journey from

the beginning. But that's who you are as a person of personality everything. Oh gosh, Well, I am a young black prince on the rise, and uh, I hail from King Street, South Carolina. I was born there and uh raised Virginia Beach and then I went to college at the University of Louisville, and uh, I've been an athlete all my life and started in baseball and could have swore I was gonna go pro and then got bored and and then became a cheerleader. I tried everything and

nothing really fully fulfilled like me. So in cheerleading, where I could be you know, athletically challenged and I could also feel like a normal person. Per se. I found that I could be all of myself, and UH, I went on to you know, gain over two hundred and fifty national titles coaching, choreographing, and competing combined. UM a four time Collegiate All American, an individual International champion, and

a five time world champion, including with Team USA. So you know, I think basically, I just feel like, UM, I just feel with my athletic background, I wanted to you know, transition into what I really wanted to do in life, and that's action, comedy, film and TV. And I just felt that, you know, one of the very few places that I could do such a thing, UM and entertain it's entertainment, it's comedy, it's it's you know, places like wilding out. And I really am grateful for

the opportunity. UM And I think my queens in here can attest there's very few places where you feel like you can fully be a queen and not just be yourself, but to be received as your full self. So I definitely think that this is just beyond a blessing to be a part of this UM this crazy ass family man. And that's just a little bit about me and where I come from. I just come from an athletic background where I get to, you know, being a sport that I can completely be myself wholly and fully and be

embraced for it. In fact, So it sounds like you definitely have, um the background, you know how to be on a team, be a team player. And yeah, it sounds like you achieved all your goals in the cheer world. That's amazing. Two titles and and all that other stuff. So I always wanted to be a cheerleader. Oh yeah, let's hear a cheer beat beat my boyfriend beat eating names. So so how did you get on? So how did you get on wilding out Sandswan? Like, how did you

hear about the audition? Like tell us that and you're so good, You're so funny, you are, Oh, thank you,

thank you. I had actually gotten a text from a friend in Nashville, um, and I don't know from a lot of same names or anything, but he just hit me up and was like, bro, they're holding auditions like down the street and like I lived up the street from like Roscoe Chicken Waffles in l a and I was like, let me just walk my happy ass down here, and I just went on down to the street and you know, went on down the street, was like heyo, what y'all doing? And they let me come in do

my thing. And then I had been randomly flown in for like two episodes and were like, good job. You know, we we really loved having you. And you know, I just was like, Wow, this was a really cool experience and I'll never have it again, so I'm just gonna soak this ship in. And I was in Germany doing Koreo for a cheer gym out there and I had randomly got an email it was like, we would love to have you as part of our fifteen cycle. And when I tell you about ship A Brick, I was like,

there's no way on playing earth. These people actually like me and the rest is so confident. How do you feel like wilding out is compared to like what you see just being a viewer and actually being on the show, because I know my first season, I was like, like you said, Shift and Bricks so scared. It's so challenging people think where they're just up there being goofy and e condom and like, no, you have to be really talented, quick on your toes, you have to think, you have

to practice. You don't want to bomb, you know, so excuse me, Um, is it challenging for you? Do you feel like it's what you thought it would be or is it easier than you thought it would be? Like tell the people a little bit about the BTS while now, because people think we up there just hoo hoo hood goofing off, and it's really challenging for me even still, Um, I think it's it's almost exactly as I pictured it, but just not God, how do I phrase this? It's

exactly what I thought it would be. It's it's hard work, and it's it's not just the laughs. It's just it's

how we like present this thing to the world. And in my head I wanted to I always want to understand how every show like solves its Rubik's cube and puts it like puzzle together, and you know, so when I got in there and I just saw everybody doing their own thing, and then if they want to, like if they like you know, start freestyle and start spending some off somebody somebody, just they just cling to it

and they're like sure, let's go. And it's always just saying and it's always like, let's just let's kill it. Let's see what we can make out of it. I really was so surprised. And you know how people have dominant personalities, but the thing is everyone's dominant personality comes with an open arm of like, you know, I can stand my own ground, bitch, like I can sit here and get six seven million people to show up for

my video, or I can fill up an arena. However, if you want to share space with me on this pedestal, on this throne, or on this stage, then let's do

it and we can be a super over. So I thought that was really that was so reassuring and humbling and motivating, because you know, you never want to see somebody that's this person X y Z up here in the stratosphere, and when you walk in a room, you never want to feel like, yo, I can't even talk to that person because I feel like they're gonna just ship and rain on my whole parade and they're gonna

make me feel like I ain't nothing. Everybody makes you want to just hop on that little fast track and just go, and it's dope. So for me seeing the behind the scenes of how people work together, and they're like, I don't really know what we're about to do, but like, if you want to just pick a subject, let's go, let's just let's see what happens, and let's get the energy going, and let's go this direction and let's let's let's get it. That to me, that to me is

one of the dopest thing. Yeah, I definitely felt welcomed. I was a little nervous, you know. I definitely had a mishap my first day. Um, and you know, I thought that you know, um, you know, and I'm not throwing nobody under the bus. It's no shade, it's nothing

for nobody to look into. But you know, somebody surprised me with something and it threw me off because I was like, you know, this isn't what this isn't the presentation of myself I want to kind of get into the first time, you know, I got a little gag played on me with like you know, powder and stuff and and and then I thought about it. I was like, the person it's not necessarily what happens to you in the in the world of wilding out is how you

react to it. That makes you the star, bitch. So you can either take it and think, oh, this person is malicious, this person is doing their own thing and funk what I'm standing for, or you can say, how do I turn around and make this funny? And in that moment, I was like, what you're gonna do now, bitch? And I turned around and I actually won the match. So I'm very proud of that moment. So I was real nervous. It's nothing to look into. You don't have

to call incorporate. But and the funny part argue about right, And the funny part is who you're talking about because it could only be one person, but right. But speaking of standing your ground, Santowan, you are so on a unapologetically you did. You feel like wilding Out was just a space where you could be that and you didn't have to come on and try to follow what anyone else was doing on the show. You just knew that you could be Santowan and you would be accepted and

be able to thrive just being yourself. Um, I was ninety nine point certain that if I'm just myself and I got the job, then I'm somewhat meant to be there, now in order to stay in that motherfucker, then you gotta be yourself and also pick up the learning curve that everybody else's because everybody else don't have the rubric, you know what I mean, They created their own and they fit into how with what our team, what our team captain, our coach now when he's like, this is

what we're gonna do today, and here's a challenge. No Curson or no Dick jokes like when he does that, like everyone else has to adapt. So I'm like, if I'm here in the same space as these icons and these Juggernauts have, then I'm clearly meant to start here and do something. So I could, you know, I figured, hey,

let's go for it. And I don't ever want to second guess myself, which I do quite often, but I figured, if I'm in there, I might as well just continue to be myself and unless if I change, it's me stepping my pussy up in you know what I mean. Okay, So, okay, step that pussy up. Sorry you hate that word step step step Your cook is up Jesus sorry. Last season a while about that I was on UM. Then we was in the hotel room. We was out in Cali, Ontario, Ontario,

and youre a little da ding. They called to the room. I was saying, room. It was like step one, worry, are you out of your mind? Okay? No, I heard a day day and it was like you gotta delivery. Somebody sent you for hours and his boyfriend him flowers and it was the sweetest thing ever. At that time, I had a boyfriend and I said, just hilarious was in there? I said, yes, you need to text my man and tell him to do this ship because but are you still with y'aboo? Are y'all getting married? What

is going on? Because y'all be posting and I'm like every deadly love each other. Yes, oh that is my better half, Kyle. I love you. If you ever hear this year my absolute universe. Um so he's in He's in Dallas right now, and yes, we are still together, thriving. I just had to come back to Georgia to get some dinner work done. But usually if I'm not having to work on set on the project, I'm doing all my ringwork and other work in Dallas and I'm a

house husband. I'm in my ugly business and you know, I just I do what to do, and I just make sure when I when I you know, am at in Dallas at his place and he comes home like he got a nice hot meal, some fresh laundry. Baby, the slippers are warm, like I'm doing my husband ly duties. Down we goals, yes, ma'am. And he's coming back in the fall, uh to Georgia. So we're gonna, you know,

take the next step in life into our thing. I moved to Georgia just um a look a little bit ago, so I just didn't really make a just outside like near Lake Lanier. Don't be don't be stalking me, y'all at the important but I've been looking for me. Want what comes through? What's up? Y'all? We are back with the women a while and out podcast. It's your girl, Justina Valentine here with my girl be some moan and

we got Santoine in the building. We are talking about his love life, his career and how he is unapologetically him and we love that about him. So y'all getting married, you're planning to get married and all that or like, yeah, we're gonna make the next organic steps and and do the you know, engagement thing. When the time is right and we want to set ourselves up for success in the future. So yeah, out to a day in the

life of me. I know his his handle because you you always But so I have a question, um, because you said you're gonna take the next step, get married and all that, who would be the one to propose? Does it not matter? Does he have to do it? Do you have to do it? Did y'all talk about that? Right? We've spoken about, you know, certain future things, and basically, uh, you know, I would love to because I like to

do surprises. He hates surprises. But also he's like, we're both from the South, but you know, he is such a country traditional, old school like like southern gentleman. So I definitely think that would be something that is on his soul. And you know, I think he's gonna do it. You know, we talked about it, and I think it's gonna be for him and I would love to have my little moment, you know. So I'm gonna let him, you know, do that, and I'm gonna put my hands

up in my face. Oh my god, he's gonna be like I didn't know, but it's gonna be ten cameras catching it. From every angle of video pictures you have that motherfucker believe that. Okay, how did you know it was the one though, Like because I'd be like, I'll be thinking, guys are the one And then as you can see, we get on the podcast a couple of months later and I'm single again, so single A game back on the prow thought was perfect. I don't know

how thank you training how well? Um, you know it started. It was one of those things that it developed. Um, and I saw him and of course, like you know, love at first sight, but it was and it was one of those things where it's like, you know, we both had previously been in a relationship, that all that whole thing. But it took us eight years too, kind of really, eight years in a global pandemic for us

to slow down and really see each other. And you know, he's always seen cheerleader Santoine out there on a hundred. He's never one thing. One thing he really said to me that got me. He was like, I have never ever seen you sit back and like your shoulders relaxed. I've never seen you take a deep breath and just close your eyes and breathe. And he's like, just to see you in a different light and relaxed. It's so

you know, mind blowing. And that's the thing that really I might remember because he's like, I'm always just seeing and you're always upright and everyone's in your face and like you're just on all the time. I never get to see relax and um. So it took a lot for us to slow down and see each other and um, after knowing each other for eight years and checking each other, checking on each other like during our relationships, and then checking in with each other after the relationships like and

just making sure each other is okay. And then finally one day we just ended up um seeing each other at a mutual friends pool party. And then man like he just stepped on a mixtape. He literally stepped back on a mix tape while we were talking and just say is that to a mix tape? And just the way he said it let me know everything I needed to know his personality, his sense of humor, his groundedness like his wittiness, his everything and his or his energy.

And when I tell you, I have never found a better all around man in my life and I'm so lucky for him. So what are what are the negatives though, like every every relationship, No, not negatives, but the stuff y'all have to work through. Obviously, every relationship has little problems, whether they're big, small, microsop topic. Do you all have like conversations? Have you ever had like a blown up

argument or anything? You know what's interesting, We've never actually had a full out, like knocked down, drag out fight because we've had so many natural, organic conversations over the years and during our relationship of like how we like to do things and just basically having a mutual consideration. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend we're Miss America

and we're perfect. Like no, Like sometimes I'm like, hey, I ordered a large fry, you didn't get one, but you want one of mine, and we'll have a funny like something I don't know, but like, we rarely have arguments.

Anytime we have um any kind of not debate but real in depth discussions, it's us getting to know one another and like um, like a race topic or like a future children's topic or like you know, differences in like how our parents are because I'm black country, he white country, so you know, we we're trying to blend our worlds, and so in order for us to shoot forward, we have to take a second and pull back if we want to slingshot, you know, through life in a

successful manner. And I think us taking a moment and just getting to understanding each other's tone, how to treat one another, and how to respect ourselves and each other, and like how how how the world perceives us, and just being considerate of everything of that person's world, but still staying in your own land, go on your own speed. So so traffic, Like we really try to make that work in private. So when we're in public, nothing's fake,

it's not bullshit. So like we don't really argue. It's like the only thing we like struggle with sometimes it's like matches schedule so we can make sure we have off time, Like we schedule our florid together. Yeah, you know, we try to schedule our year out four to six months in advance so we can actually have quality time. So and you do, y'all do seem really respectful of each other. Like I've never even seen you like on set or anything like looking at anyone else, Like it's

always all about Kyle. You're always shouting him out, even on the show. It's like we all know him by damn. Hey, we know you and love right but that and you guys look great to get other. So I'm happy for you. But look, I want to play our version of fun Mary kill all right, but we're gonna do We're gonna little PG. Thirteen. We're gonna make it date married friend zone.

So we're gonna start with the ladies, all right. So it's be myself and pretty v you gotta marry friend zone, okay, period um, so date Mary friend zone and it is pretty v b smone and Justina herself. I would friend zone Justina so I can hang out with you all the time, talk two brothers, you know what I mean, like the branch and have a period. It's hello when that's the best about worlds we could we want to do And I would love to hang out with you all the time and just shoot the ship. I would

love to. I would love to date be so she could stop singing her boy friends. You'll probably that I would love to take you on a date because I feel like you just know what type of ship you like and I would love to see you just out there being pampered. I would love you to take you on a day and then do like some special for you and surprise you would like something interesting, like a handwritten letter from like your grandmother that you never just go.

I want to do something special because I feel like you like special Ship Titanic, you know what I mean. I feel like you like special Ship. And I would, honestly, I would honestly marry the ship out of me because

I'm obsessed with her. Um and she would still do her thing and you know, and I would still do mine, but I would just marry her because I feel like I could just be with her all the time and like, yeah, just laugh, Yeah you could be dancing on her little island with her and like, you know, you hit that little table she dances on. So look, now we gotta do the guy's version. So we got Boris Kojo, Chris

Hemsworth and Jason Momoa. Why don't random as honestly right, because I'm like, I'm I'm hoping I'm pronouncing everything right. Let's put it up, not forget it, let's do let's do Drake DC, Young Fly and Nick Cannon. Okay, I would honestly, I would probably um friend Zone DC because he's just a homie at heart, Like I feel like I could just just shoot the ship with him, just like he was, like it's just all love and it's

fun and it's constant like just laughter. So I mean, you can't not have a good friend like that, like a route at the bottom of your tree. Like that's just a solid nigga right there, s my language. And then I would. I would go on a date with Drake, you know, just to see what it's like, do some adventurous ship and like you know, getting club, you know what I mean, like just to say I didn't like it, right, you know, just some bullshit on like you know that.

But um, I would. I would honestly marry Nick because I think that's it's it's just it's all around, like it's not that like he find he got money and like he funny, Like no, it's like and I'm not listen right now, Nick, I'm not saying this because you're my boss, nigga. I'm dead as serious. You are husband material, ya know, y'all know they cannad I want to get married again. Say that you don't, that's all right, but you are husband material, sir, And you know who else

has my baby, my baby cow. So anyway, that's why I really know y'all knew I was gonna say I'm a writer. I'm like, okay, Kyle, yeah, girl, Okay, So saying T Twine, you did the cheerlead and you did the athletics stuff you didn't. Now you've done TV, even on national TV. You got a man, Now you in love. We talked about you. Excuse me, jes she's she's gagged getting married. Where do you see yourself in five years? Like you want to see all this going? I would

like to. I would like to in five years be doing what I actually want to do, how I want to do it, in a sense of like how y'all do just on my personal scale where I see myself like, I want to be that person who can do because I feel like in Hollywood people for some reason just don't think that other people are multi talented and actually excel in multiple fields. So I would like to be

an action comedy hero for Marvel. I would like to be that person that like is on a show on the regular and it's producing and bringing up concepts and writing music for other people and hosting awards shows, and and I know that I can do this, and I feel like I can explode inside when I explain this as people because I know that I can and I know I can do it on a level that's like unseen. So you know, I'm not that immediate blueprint that agent or manager somebody would say, I don't see it. That's

because it ain't been done before, bitch. That's why you ain't seen. So in five years, that's where I want to be, or at least starting to be on the way to that married mind and my ugly business. And then I'm probably having our first set of kids because Colin are having twin boys and a girl. Um, do you know who you're going to? Um, it's a long process, but it's going to be like our DNA is gonna

be our kids. And we're having twin boys and I'm not gonna tell you their names, but we're having a girl. And basically one thing that me and Kyle say to each other is I everything love you, UM and UM we're gonna take the acronym of it. And her middle name is gonna be AILI. How cute. Well, okay, so are you gonna do like yours? Ferm for one kid? And then his firm for another kid or not. But no, like you can you can really miss the ship. You

can have your own. Yeah, and they just remove the egg out if I'm if I'm remembering my research correctly, because there's some gay couples that have their own actual children and um yeah, man. So I just want to be I'm not trying to. I hate to say this, but I'm not trying to be a role model for other games. I'm not trying to, you know, be the first game president. I'm literally just trying to be the

best in my life. And if it happens inspired somebody, cool, I'm I'm you know, I'm not trying to be Miss America or Mr America, which I'm just trying to live in America, thrive in this bitch. And I don't got that much time, girl. I'm I'm about to be thirty three next month, Honey, I don't you know what I mean? I don't have this like I'm sixteen and I'm on my way to superstart him. Know I've seen him pregnant. You know I have to. I have to be offish one my time, so I can't you do have time?

Two trains made when he was periods, keep rapping and and to a concert that is old and he still started out without getting it right around whatever. And you know what stands on honestly, like the blessing is you know you, like you said, you feel like you achieved everything you wanted to achieve in your one career, which was athletics, like mainly cheerleading, and now you're onto the

next part of your career. You're thriving, you're doing great, You're you know, you've brought such a personality and a different twist to wild and now. So I think everything you're aiming for is a hundred percent attainable. And I know you work hard and you're only concentrated on your career and your man, so blinds on you keep focusing on Yeah, peney, okay real quick because before we go, before we go, we do want to quote from you, so think about that. But what is a deal breaker

in your relationship? Have y'all talked about that? Because I'm really big on non negotiable It's like I feel like people like, if you do this, I'm leaving, and then somebody does it and then they stay. So I'm like, well, that's not a non negotiable if you can negotiate about it. What it's like, y'all's non negotiables, Like, we are not dealing with this. If this happens, I don't care. If we're married, I don't care if we have two kids,

I am leaving you. I'm not dealing with that. Um. Nonegotiable. To be honest, is if he buys me wings and their drums and not flats period. I'm not playing with your ask me, I'm not. It's like, and I know it's people out there that's gonna hear this flats all day now if you can hear them, you know me, stop playing. No, Um, I feel like just one of the things is sorry now just texting me. I'm gonna

beat it. Ask my golf this phone. But no, I really honestly feel like truly blatant this respect and any

major form. And I know we all know we talked about like it's just one of the things like if you out here hoing, you know, and especially when you are married, like if you're hoing out there and you do what you're not supposed to do, and then you're not really looking out for the longevity of the relationship and ultimately the legacy of the family were starting, like you know, it's not so we have and it's I.

That's obvious stuff. And I think, honestly, if I lose if I or Kyle lose our passion for what we do and we get stuck in life, that's a deal breaker. But that's not me leaving. I think honestly, like, if we lose passion or respect for one another, we're gonna have to say, hey, hey, focus and let's go back to what we was doing and make sure that we

keep that. And also, I don't a deal breaker for me is if we lose our natural attraction and like funness together, if that makes sense, like we we travel the world together and do all these incredible things and I want to do with our kids and and and I don't think that I could ever stop loving him or some would be a true deal breaker that I didn't even at least try to mend first, because I'm not gonna just give up and say, oh, well, I'm walking out. I'm not. I'm not an idiot on both ends.

I'm not gonna let him repeatedly do something, um and I'm not gonna just say fuck it at the drop of a let the dime when I'm like, oh, ship, so I don't feel right, you know. So it's it's one of those things you gauge as you go because everyone's situations are different. But you know, as of right now, it's motherucking rainbows and sunshine. I'm the happiest motherfucker in the park right now. So together, it will be um a year and a half. Um, you don't have to

come up soon. Yeah, I was just gonna say that you never been in a fight. Give it about another year, you know. And that's the thing A lot of people would look at me like, yo, that's puppy love, and which it is, you know, technically, but when you known each other eight years and you've got a real foundation, that's a that's a different year and a half, you know what I mean. That's why we don't argue and struggle, and it's like, yo, we we just know how to

be amongst each other. And we were coexisting before we started coexisting, so we got a little leg up. So well, it don't seem like you guys are gonna lose the passion anytime soon, because I see all them Instagram posts of you guys booed up and doing it big. So you know, I definitely wish you guys the best on that. But you know, outside of UM, you and Kyl and you guys traveling the world, what you guys that you're working on right right new that the people can look

out for. I have a movie coming up in Marshall I'll be filming. It's a quick little cameo, little shawam pop I have and it's called Things like This, which is very great. Thank you, Max Talisman and much appreciated. Um. We have our next season coming up, can't wait to see you. And then I will also be trying to make a point this year to go to all my friends comedy shows and support and be a real one because I think them doing what they gotta do on their own, it's beautiful. And then I am um. I

actually have a project right now. Hopefully UM it all comes to fruition. But I just designed Georgia's Orange Bowl and their national championship rings, so I'm crossing my fingers that they take it and accept it because they are dope. And um yeah, I got some treatments for some movies that i'll be um trying to pitch soon and I'm very excited at it. Yes, let's go. And your rings are so dope, they are so nice. I supported I got the silver one, you know, with the big sexy.

It's so fire. I love it. Also doubles as like a little weapon if somebody tries to get crazy, because that there's some weight is a body, y'all. I'm nervous. My phone gonna die. I'm nervous. Give us a quote, Give us a quote. Be yourself, Be yourself, bitch, uh, And I really mean that, be yourself, but also better yourself. Be better than you were yesterday. Stay in your own l and go your own speed so it's no traffic. You are you are and filling the blank and just

believe it. And I think people don't necessarily like really lean towards quotes like that because they're like, you know, it's cliche. But my thing is if it's the truest ship. It's like, you can never build a real empire, right, You can't build a sky scraper without a real foundation. You gotta start at the same place. Well, where can the people find you? Where can the people find um? You guys can find me at I am Santoan on

all social media platforms all social media. I'm from Jersey now um all social media platforms at I M, S A and T W O N and uh or designed by Santourana if you want to check out my ring work and then you can find me on a while and now acting a damn food. All right, Well, thank you for coming through, Santoan. We love you, we appreciate you, and we can't wait to see what the future has because we know it's gonna bet we love. I truly do love you both. And I look at everything you do.

Is if I'm the biggest fan, because I just I really do think the world of you girls, and I see what you do and I always just like just kick a moment and I see you and I just look at you and all because you guys are such John y'all are so incredible and so sweet. I really

do mean. I look at her and I just think back years ago and I'm just like, these motherfucker's are giant and they're incredible, and they're right in front of me and now they're friends, and I'm like, this is so And you guys remain on the rise and you stay elevating. So I'm I'm very very blessed to be able to like just be in the same room with you. And I love y'all to day. Thank you, saman I love y'all your hands like, okay, already now cut it all,

cut all, hey, y'all. That was Santoine. We loved having him here. But we're about to take a little breaky break. We will be right back with some more women a while. And now what's up, y'all? We are back with the women a while. And now it's your girl, Justineau here with my girl. Be some moan and we got our boot in the building. Santoine, bing bong bing bang that up. He was such a good um guest. Do y'all hear my dog walking around, y'all? Hear that? Oh that's a

little y'all. Hear the little bit of pet. How's she doing? And I was so excited when you got a dog. You don't want big do? Right? How do I stop that? Because it drives me to do I have to cut his car? Well? I mean yeah, you have to either get his his nails cut or you could do it yourself, but just don't cut them too short because they have um like nerves, right, so they'll just I mean, if you bring him to petcor or whatever, the don't know how I'm saying, is it still gonna do this? How

do I do I need to do or something. I don't suggest putting mittens because then he could fall, like I don't know if you have stairs or anything like that. And you know, like like I said, they do have nerves there, so you don't want to cut them too short.

So you probably shouldn't do yourself bringing the petc and don't know how to do it, But you can't necessarily stop like the sound get listen to every problem and yes there is you can get a carpet and then you won't have that, Justina, I'm not getting carpet through my whole house. Stop playing? Okay, right well, Jasina is such a dog advocate you here. She said, do not cut too short they have nerves. Be careful because people just don't know. Like some people declaw their cats, and

I'm like, oh my god. Decline your cat is literally like cutting your finger off like right here, like at the first really, yes, that is part of their um bone structure literally and not why do people do that? Though they don't want them to have their nails but that's like their defense mechanism. They need that, Like it's very unnatural and very painful and gives them joint problems later on. So yeah, I'm definitely an advocate for animals because I feel like just a lot of people are

uneducated on it. But but you love uno ha, that's like love y'all. That's face. That's not quote face. Oh ship was that? I'm sorry, y'all. That was the charger fell out the wall. I thought it was. Oh no, but face your fears. That is the quote. Because I literally got a dog because I'm terrified up dogs. I forgot about that terrified. When I got him, I was literally scared, like he would be jumpy and I would

be like, oh no, you're scaring me. But if even now sometimes if he jumps on me, I'm like, all right, you're giving me PTSD. They Yes, I got him to face my fears, and now I'm not scared of dogs anymore. When I see dogs, I look and I'm like little personalities. I'm like, oh, I wonder how his personality is. Yes, And I always say, there's no such thing as a bad dog. There are people that raise or mistreat a dog. To if you would use a dog or mistreat them

and then that dog bites someone. Well, of course, because like if you were kept caged up and taunted and not like fed and giving water and all that, you're gonna you know, So the same things that could happen to a human, um could happen to an animal if they're in a bad environment. But I'm so glad you love Uno. That's that's so cutes. Thank you San Swan for coming on this show. You guys, today was a great episode. Um, sant Joan is newer on Wilding Out, so I hope you guys gotta just a good vibe

from him. Got to see his personality. He's so sweet, so nice, so open, so warming, and um, you guys should really follow him, look into him and look him up. I know he's not a veteran on wilding Out, but he is definitely came in the door kicking, made his name, made his mark. He'd be on there doing black back flips and cheering and you can sing. He's just so talented. So y'all please check him out and support his journey

and go stop him and his boyfriend on Instagram. Yes, he he really is and he's so supportive, He shows so much love and like he said, he has definitely left his mark. So definitely um check out Sandy sin Yes, thank you all for rocking with us on the podcast. Podcast by many tast