Hey, guys. Welcome to the podcast. My guest today is Anthony Lee. He is the founder and CEO of Zap Mortgage. He's also ex military special forces, and he is a best selling author. And I call this episode from medically impossible to medical miracle. This is just an incredible story. It's not our typical podcast episode, but you should listen to this whole thing. It's life changing. I know you guys are gonna love it.
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Every once in a while, you know that I bring someone outside of pharma onto this podcast that's just going to provide this very special addition to the MSL Talk podcast. And Anthony Lee's one of those people. He's a life changing kind of guy. This story, he's gonna tell you guys a story that's gonna absolutely blow your mind. So number 1, strap in. Number 2, be ready to take notes. And number 3, be ready to share this with people because we are gonna take a tremendous journey.
So, Anthony, thank you for joining us. You're welcome. My pleasure. 1, thank you for having me here. I love you, brother. This is gonna be amazing, and I look forward to talking to all your listeners because I know this is out of the norm for you. It's out of the norm for the podcast I'm usually on, so this is exciting for me to reach a whole new type of audience. Hell, yeah. We're gonna get into it real quick, though. We do have a sponsor, guys.
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So, Anthony Lee, we are gonna start why don't why don't we just go back and tell us about your early years just so that you give a foundation to everyone out there, where you've come from, and that sort of thing? Yeah. For sure. So I'm a mid Midwestern boy. Grew up in a little town of Ohio. Very small, farming town. Grew up, very poor, you know, but I didn't know I was poor. And it was funny, Tom. I didn't know I was poor until the kids in 4th grade actually told me I was poor.
So I had a great mother, you know, life was good, and and I loved my childhood growing up. But, yeah, I I didn't know I was born till I was told. So, you know, I think that's kinda that laid the foundation for, you know, everything that I've done in life, because I've always just had to grind and and get to it and get after it. So, you know, I grew up in Gallien, Ohio, then I enlisted in the military when I was 18 years old, for Desert Storm, right in that that time frame of of life.
Entered the military in the air force, spent 22 years in the military total. Mhmm. I went from airman all the way to major, o four. So I went I went, you know, green to gold or a mustang, whatever you wanna call it. So I was part of the airman's education and commissioning program. Got my bachelor's in engineering, while I was in, when I had 3 kids.
In fact, you know, that's kind of the grind, like, I was doing a second job, going to school, and had 3 kids in the air force, you know, all at one time. So I became an officer in the military, retired in 2013, and started my journey, to where we're at now. But yeah. Also, we're gonna get into that. Of Ohio. Yeah. We are. We're gonna get into that. But I I wanted to I wanted to tell us what made you go into the military? Why did you enlist Yeah. In the first place?
Yeah. So originally originally So I was a I was a pretty gifted athlete from the beginning. I could run really fast. God gave me the gift of speed, hand eye coordination, things like that. So I was a fast runner. And so I wanted to go to the Air Force Academy. Alright. 1 of the service academies, at least I was hoping for the Air Force Academy with the appointment. But then, when I was 17, I found women and girls, and I had my daughter or I I you know, my, my wife was pregnant got pregnant.
I had my daughter when I was 18 years old. So when when we were pregnant with her in high school, back then, you couldn't go into a service academy with a dependent child. So Mhmm. I my appointment got pulled, and I couldn't go to the, Air Force Academy anymore. So I still wanted to go in the military, and now I had a wife and kid, to provide for, and I still wanted to serve our country, so I just enlisted in the military Wow. Back then. So you you actually got the appointment.
You were gonna go to the academy. Wow. That Mhmm. Guys, that's Yeah. Really hard to do. It's really hard. And my someone to the Naval Academy, and it's, like, impossible to get one of those spots. So to get it and then realize that you you you don't have it, that's crazy. Alright. So then you go into the you go into the military. Tell us because I I know your story, and I know what kind of training you had been doing. Like, basically, like, they tried to drown you, if I'm not mistaken.
Can you tell us about that? Yeah. So part of that. So I was, fortunate enough to go through air force, pair rescue, and indoctrination training. For those of though those of you that don't know what pair rescue and doc training is, you can look up p j, you can look up superman school. We're the people that jump jump out of planes and go save down pilots or behind enemy lines. We're the primary medics on every mission.
So, like, if you remember the movie Black Hawk Down in Somalia, the guys that went in there, those were pj's that saved those pilots that went in there to get them. Okay? So we're the primary medics on any combined team, whether they're SEALs, marine force, recon army, rangers. We're the primary medics on those combined teams if they don't have their own medics. So, yeah, drowning. So part of in doc training, you know, you could look up what buds are in seals and Mhmm. And everything like that.
We do our own in doc. The attrition rate is very, very high. I think we started with a 176 people starting out, and then by the time we got to hell week, there was about 36. And then by the time when we finished hell week, there was 9 of us left. Seven people got medically pushed back because they had broken bones, or they were hurt or sick. They couldn't continue. So part of that is being drowned, and it's called either drown proofing and buddy breathing.
So what buddy breathing is is, like, Tom and I, you and I grab a hold of each other's one arm, and then the other arm, we have a snorkel. Mhmm. We're just gonna hand it back and forth to each other. Mhmm. But it's not just sitting there doing this, floating. There's 2 instructors trying to tear you apart, trying to not let you breathe, trying to tear this out, and drown you at the same time. Jeez. So there's that part of it. And then there's drown proofing.
Everyone's seen the videos with our hands and feet tied behind our back. Yeah. Like, that's called drown proofing. And to me, that was a place of respite and where I was able to relax just because I could hold my breath for a long time. But to prepare for Indoc, we went before Indoc, and we used to go to the bottom of the pool, and we would the older pools used to remember, he used to have those big metal grates at the bottom?
Yeah. We used to grab a hold of those and hold on to those until we would pass out, and then our buddies would pull us up and then, you know, push the the air avvis, and then we would all just do that. So we got used to what's called seeing the wizard. We got used to passing out. Oh, god. Right? Yeah. You know, we would drown ourselves. So that way when we drowned during the actual course, it was fine. It didn't phase us. We didn't freak out.
And the reason we did that is to pass in doc, and then to go to special forces combat dive, which is the same thing as BUDS dive week. In fact, there's BUDS instructors. It's an interchangeable school. And during that, you have what's called one man comp. And during that, you you actually have to go through these series of things as they tie your regulators up and kick the crap out of you. And for that, I didn't wanna fail that.
I held my breath for 4 minutes before I was just about to pass out, and then I came up. So Dude. Yeah. Drowning was a part of my life for a long time. That's crazy. I mean, that's just straight crazy like most people. That's nuts. Yeah. So well, let me ask you. Like, what like you said, see the wizard. Like, what it they say that drowning, like, you go into a state of euphoria. Is that true? It's it's When they say euphoria, I mean, I guess it's euphoria.
Like, what happens is you just get these light headed you get kinda Yeah. You get kinda euphoric or just light headed, and then all of a sudden, you start seeing these stars Mhmm. And then everything just goes like this. Like, it's just like that. It just goes dark. And then and then you wake up on the side of the pool. Like, you you don't know what happens because after this, you're just and it's funny watching people, when we would do underwater.
So we have to swim a certain amount of we have to swim 50 meters underwater to pass the course with 1 breath. Okay? Just 1 breath in underwater, in full BDU gear. So it's not easy. Right? Yeah. But at the end, they, you know, we do the, hey, who can swim the furthest challenge underwater? And there was one it's funny watching people like me, I just came up after about 75, 85 yards. Some people got to over a 100 meters, and it's funny you watch them.
They would just go like this, and then all of a sudden just like And they'd be out. They'd be out. They'd just be out. Yeah. So alright. So they tried to drown you. They weren't successful in they, you know, they weren't successful in killing you, but they drowned you. They drowned us. Tell us and let's kinda get to the this isn't the good part, but this is, like, you know, kind of almost the pinnacle of the story here. So tell us about the accident.
Yeah. So we also go to what's called Halo School, high altitude, low opening school. That's where you see in the movies, you jump out of planes, like skydiving, and you open really low, and then you come in and and you do your stuff well. I came in and and on a jump, I was coming in how you usually land. You know, you see skydivers who come in and they land like this. Right? And you just kinda float and land down there. I was still coming down, so this is my canopy. I was coming down.
My canopy was here. I was here. I was swinging into the ground. My foot caught a piece of cement about 4 feet, while my canopy was driving me into the ground. I was going a 121 miles an hour. I hit this piece of cement. I severed my ankle, severed my patella tendon, broke my neck, broke my back. You could see my hand. You can see the the scars in these knuckles here. Scars in these knuckles is from the moment that I felt my foot hit that thing.
I pulled down so hard that I hit that pavement and just it poked hole. I mean, it just put holes in my arm. So I was knocked out. I was, you know, my guardian angel was with me. I'm alive. Right? I should be dead. My my speed thing said I was going a 121 miles an hour when I hit. I had 8 different surgeries. The doctors said I would never run again. They said I would never deploy again. They said I would never do any of that again.
When I by the time I got out of the hospital with all the surgeries, I was probably, like, a £120 from just being in there for so long. Wow. So yeah. But they were wrong. Right? They were all wrong. Now I'm not saying that it doesn't hurt to wake up every day or it doesn't hurt to do things, but I do it anyway. Well, then let's let's go back because you you said guardian angel. I know that you're a man of faith. Can you tell me? Yes. So did you find your faith before that?
Did this bring you to your faith? You know, I'd I'd been a Christian growing up. Right? My mom raised me as a as a Christian growing up. But, you know, as as you go through, you know, your 20s and and especially being in a special sports group, we have faith, but it might not as been as as much. After that after that, I knew that God had more planned for me because I didn't die. So I owe my life to him for saving it.
So, yeah, I think it was my faith was restored at that time, and it was a lot deeper level after that. Yeah. So it's and, you know, and it spilled over into areas of business where I know we're gonna talk about, you know, being a faith based business now, being a believer now, and telling people about that and and witnessing to that. Yeah. So that's a big thing for us. Well, let's get into that.
So you you you have this crazy accident and, you know, kind of almost like this near death experience. We're told you were never gonna walk again, and then you transition into this entrepreneurial life where, you you know, you started businesses. So so tell us about that journey a little bit. Yeah. So I got I retired from the military, and I started because, you know, I'm into athletics. So I've done 17 Ironman triathlons, done over 250 marathons.
Because of that, when I got out of the military, I thought I wanted to be a sports psychologist. So I was going to get my doctorate in clinical psychology to be a sports psych psychologist and and and stuff like that. While I was doing that, we were in clinicals in our last semester, and I was bored. As probably your listeners know, clinicals is pretty boring in school. You know, I'm used to going a 100 miles an hour. I was bored. So I got into real estate and mortgage.
Mhmm. And, you know, I made, like, $238,000 in, like, 3 months. Wow. And I was, like, okay. This is what I'm gonna do because as a psychologist, I was non prescribing psychologist. I was gonna make probably, like, 80 k a year. Right? Yeah. Be fulfilled would make $80,000. I was like, I'm just gonna finish my degree, but then I'm doing this. So I started focusing on that. I didn't know anything. I didn't know anything about mortgage. I didn't know anything about real estate. I knew nothing.
The only thing I knew oh, sorry, Tom. No worries. The only thing I knew was that I could work hard, and I could outwork anybody else. Meaning, no one else was going to outwork me. So I learned. I worked 20 hours a day. Right? I out hustled people in the office that had been doing it 20 or 30 years that, you know, I had the discipline to go in. And I found out very quickly civilians weren't like this. Like, I was in the office at 7 AM, and I did my whole day.
I was still there at 7, 8 o'clock at night. Then I would go to another networking group, whether it's a beer drink drinking group or whatever it was, at 9 or 10 at night, and repeat that every day. Back then, I would take list back then they had listings and everything in this book that was printed out because it didn't have the Internet, like it expired listings and all this kind of stuff. I would just rip pages out of there and just go knock on the doors.
Geez. I was just relentless in what I did. So, you know, my 1st year, I made $748,000. Not to say that to brag, but I'm just saying this to say, I did it with 0 experience. And I had a little, $1 frame on my desk that said $728,000 on it. That's what I wanted to make after that Q1, and I beat it by a little bit. But it just shows you the power of just how I focused, and I just learned along the way. I didn't have any coaches. I didn't have anybody. I just figured it out. Just hard work.
Grit. Just hard work. Yep. Hard work. And then fast forward. So tell us and I know I know you don't like talking about this, but, you know, because you're a humble guy. But tell us where is that mortgage stands right now and the success that you've had. Yeah. That mortgage, for the last 2 years, we've been blessed to to be on the inks. We were 335 our 1st year out on ink eligible.
Last year, we're 294. This year, by our projections, we'll be in the top 100 privately held companies in the United States. Jeez. We will be probably one of the top privately held lenders or the number one privately held lender in the United States. We are the number one veteran owned lender in the United States. You know, and when I say that, then I'm in the top I'm in the top 20 of all veteran owned businesses, and that's across the spectrum of government contract and everything.
That's just, you know, me being in there. And, you know, that just shows what you can do. Now it was funny, I thought I could do it much quicker. It took 13 years, 12, 13 years to get to where I am. I was like, oh, I could do this in 5. No. People people overestimate what they can do, like, in a year, but underestimate what they can do in 5 or 10. So it takes time. Like, it it does take time, but it just shows if you live to a standard, you have the discipline, and you do it every day.
Like I tell people, the reason I'm successful is I am good at the boring stuff. Mhmm. Like, I'm good at all the boring stuff in the world, and I'm probably the best at it. Because I can just sit there for 10 hours and do the most boring mundane work, but yet it yields results. And that's probably in life and and everything if you just keep at it and just do it every day, you're gonna succeed. And you're You know?
You have this undying level of consistency where you know what to do, whether it's the sexiest or most boring thing, and you do it in such a consistent fashion that it has to produce results. It has. And you're right. It's so consistent and so predictable Mhmm. That you you can't fail with it. Like, I've given the way out, and and we're gonna talk about a little bit with with my book. I've given the template out to the world. Yeah. Templates out to the world.
And the daily activities are out to the world. Yes, you can kinda massage it for your biz your business or what you do, but it's the template. Here's the thing is I've given that out. Before I publish this book, I've probably given it out 2 1000, 3000 times to people. Yeah. The only people that have done it have been 3. 2 out of that 3 have made 7 figures on it. That's it.
So out of 1,000, that's how many people and they're in the book, they're examples in the book, especially Lauren in the book. You know, him, and in fact it's funny, so your listeners are in the medical field. He's actually in residency now as an anesthesiologist. He came to one of my recruiting events. Alright. He we met at a mutual party the week before, and then I was having a recruiting event. He was in his last year of of medical school. And he came to my event, he's like, I wanna do it.
And he's like, I'm motivated, I wanna do it. I was like, can you do this while you're in medical school? He's like, yes. He said and I was like, why? I wanna know his why. And as your listeners probably know, he wanted to get out of medical school with 0 debt, He wanted to buy a house for his wife during residency so they don't have to live in an apartment. He wanted to pay off his cars, and they were gonna have a baby. And I'm like, okay. So here's what it takes.
This guy, Tom, this guy was at the event on Thursday. By the time Sunday came around, he had the course done. Usually takes people, like, at least a month to do the course. He was done in 3 days. He had his license in a week. By the end of that other week, he had already tested, had his license. He followed what I taught to a tee in 6 months. He brought home in his own commissions $314,000 Wow.
Which means he he brought a total into the company of 600 and 30, almost 640,000 because he's on a 50 50 split. Mhmm. So by doing that, he wiped out his debt, he bought his cars, and he was able to purchase a house for residency. And this So he's a this is a real estate guy or a mortgage guy? Real estate guy. Real estate guy. Real estate. Real estate guy. Let's transition. Tell everybody about your book. What's it called? Yeah. What's it about? Yeah. It's great.
So it just came out a week ago, Race for Greatness. So it's the race for greatness, r stands for relentless, a stands for action, c stands for connection, and e stands for execution. Alright? So I I I the name of the book is Race for Greatness because I've been racing my whole life. Mhmm. And it just tells people the story of how I came from nothing.
I had no experience, but because of those four letters and what I did in each of them, I was relentless, I took action, I connected with people and I executed every day. I was able to build a multimillion dollar company. I was able to change lives, like, we're able to change lives. I've changed so many lives now, that's the beauty of everything. And the book is really how you can take whatever you're doing right now.
Even if you don't have your own business, if it's your listeners, you can take the blueprint of what I've done and apply it to your life and succeed exceptionally at anything, like, exceptionally. So, yeah. It's, I like it, of course. You know, it's it's a great book, but it does. And it's also just not a book that's like rah rah, and it just gives you a bunch of, you know, just strategy stuff. You guys no. When you go in there, the QR code, you download the stuff.
I give you the templates, like, it's written out exactly what to do. Like, exactly what to do. So people can talk all the time about how they wanna be millionaires. How they wanna succeed. How they wanna do everything. Well, now and you know, there's other books out there too. But now, I have given you I'm I just gave it to you in your hand. So if you really wanna succeed, get the book, print it out, and then actually do it. So there's no excuses now because you have the blueprint.
Like and I'm an open book. I tell people exactly how to do it because I know nobody's gonna do it. Well and let me let me go back a second, guys. You know that on this podcast, I it's it's a non promotional show. Very rarely do I promote anything. This you know, Anthony being my friend, me having read the book, by the way, because I have read the book, I had to share it with you guys. And I think it is something that, you know, it's work. It's available on paperback.
It's available on digital download and hardcover. You just go to Amazon, type in race for greatness. Check it out. I read it. But I wanted to share that with you guys. The other thing too that I wanna share with you guys, I'm telling you, this dude is so humble. He's not even really telling you the whole story. So his his company does 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars a year, and he gives most of it away. Yes. Gives most of it away. And it's funny. So yes.
So we we are a faith based Christian organization. I make no qualms about I'm a Christian. You know, we hire hire Christian people. We do we do that. Like, that's what we do. And we're very philanthropic. Like, our our philanthropic arm is huge. When I started this company, it wasn't to make money. I started it to give money away. My goal was to make as much money as I could, make the company break even, I have some money to pay for my house, and then I just give the millions away.
We feed, we help homeless women and children, we help, veterans buy houses and free cars, all that kind of stuff. Like, you know, our goal is, you know, for every 100,000,000 we make, I wanna give 75,000,000 of it away if I can. Right? That's that's the goal. So, yeah. We are very philanthropic, and it's true. Like, people don't people don't understand. When I first gave my when here's the story.
When I when I first gave back, it was a check that I wrote that was the whole budget for the company. It was, like, $3,400,000 or something like that for a new apartment home for homelessness or whatever. But the minute I did that, the minute I wrote that check, that was in January after the the the preacher got up and preached on on Christmas.
That was in January. That Q1 of that next year, I made back that back 4 times the amount of that check-in 1 quarter, which means I broke that prior year's record in 1 quarter. So the power of giving in faith and belief is huge. And when you give when you give when you just don't, you know, when it may not be comfortable to do it, just because you need to do it, because someone else needs your help, you know, you're gonna get that back. I truly do that, and we keep doing that.
And we keep, you know, every time you know, people might say too, rates are higher. How do you keep doing this? It's because, you know, we have the American people and and faith. We have faith in God that it's gonna it's gonna work. And that's why we're still alive and we're still here kicking it, because we're, you know, we're giving back to society in more ways than just money too. Like, people get into houses. We help people down to 500 credit scores.
We do different things in lending that no other lenders do. So it's a different business model. I've seen it. I've seen it firsthand. And and, you know, it's you know, most people, if they were to give 5 or 10% of their earnings away, that's a lot. This guy's getting 75% on 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars. So I just thought that that was that was something that I wanted to mention. And and you guys know, again, I'm I'm going against the grain here.
This isn't a normal program for this podcast because, normally, we we don't. I don't promote anything, and I don't involve religion or get, you know, get spiritual on this show. You guys know that I'm I'm also a Christian, and and I have strong faith. I very rarely talk about it on this podcast. I have in the past. But, but I just I I first of all, I love this guy, and I wanted to share this incredible resource with you, but also this great story. So, Anthony, tell everyone.
I know that you and I are both fitness junkies. You take it to a whole another level. Tell everybody what your fitness goal is for this year in 2024. Yeah. So, I mean, Tom, you're a beast. Like, I mean, if you guys don't know it, him and I, if we look at us, we're both in our fifties. Right? But because we take care of ourselves, you know, you can't some people can't tell. But, yeah. So this year, I'm running all 6 marathon majors. All 6 marathon majors in the world.
What that is, that is the 6 largest marathons in the whole world in 1 year, one calendar year. That's the Tokyo marathon. Boston, London, Berlin, Chicago, and New York. I have completed Tokyo, Boston, and London already. Tokyo was in March, and then Boston and London were in April. Boston was on a Monday, London was on a Sunday. 6 days apart. Uh-huh. So I finished Boston on Monday, got on a plane on Tuesday to London, ran a marathon again on Sunday in London.
So, the normal journey for this is anywhere from 10 to 20 years for people to do this, to be able to do it let to do all of them, let alone do it in 1 year. I think there may be 24 people doing it this year. That's it. Out of all marathoners, since they started recording all the majors, and it's called the grand slam of running. So when you come the people the reason why people do all 6 is because you get this big medal, and it's the marathon majors. It's the 6 star, medal.
This year, I think and I I I added it up. There was less than 100 since they started measuring this that's ever done all 6 of these in 1 year. So after this year, there'll be a little bit over a 100. So if you think of the millions and millions of people that run a marathon, those of us that have done it in all in 1 year, it's, like, 0.0001%. And that's why I chose to do it, because this is hard. The running's hard. Trust me.
Doing a marathon within 6 days, even though that was hard, but getting into them all Yeah. Was even harder. I started planning this in 2022. The year when I applied for the London, when I got into London, 538,000 people were on the ballot to get into that. This year for the 2025 race of the London marathon, a 1,000,000 and 38,000 people have applied to get in. So your chance of getting into this race, into London, slim to none. Boston, you have to qualify for.
New York, I've tried to get in for 9 years and I finally got in. I figured out how to get in. That's how hard these races are to actually get into to do. So doing them all in 1 year, it's, it's been an adventure so far. It's a big deal, man. That's a big deal. And, guys, he's gonna do it. Now here's the crazy thing. Let's go back a second. The doctors told him he would never Yeah. Run again. Right? Yep. Yeah. They said, I would never run if you see, like, my right knee.
There's there's this big divot there, and then there's because there's no patella tendon there anymore, like real patella tendon. There's a couple of things holding together there, but not the patella tendon. If you look down in my ankle, you know, you'll see all the the damage from where that got broken. Of course, my neck and back. And then not to mention, I have 2 screws in my foot. Now that 2 screws was from the 2015 Boston marathon. I broke my foot halfway through. I continued and finished.
You know, I didn't quit, but I broke my foot at mile 10. And so, yeah, I got 2 screws in my foot out there now too. Dude, I tell you, it makes you feel like such freaking, you know, in the gym lifting weights, and you're out there running 6 majors in 1 year. So let's let's for all of the there's a lot of people who listen to this that are, you know, high performers and and personal growth junkies. What advice do you have for those guys? You know, 1, keep learning and keep growing.
No matter what you're in, no matter what industry, no matter what place, you can always learn. And then be the best at whatever you're doing. If you're out there sweeping floors, be the best at sweeping floors. If you're you're out there being the best MSL in the world, be the best MSL, but do what it takes to learn. Like, the best people in life and the billionaires and millionaires you see out there, we're constantly learning. We're constantly learning new things.
We're going in, we're inquisitive about things. We're not stopping that learning process. Because the minute you stop learning and growing, that's when your growth is gonna stagnate. You know, I spent years going to Tony Robbins seminars and listen to him and doing things like that. And, you know, it's it's true. You gotta keep growing and you gotta keep, you know, executing on the ideas and the things that you have to and that you want to do in life.
And whether your goals are relationship driven, business driven, you know, whatever they are, physically driven for fitness, you know, stick to them. Write them down. I'm a big believer, huge believer, and then, you know, waking up, writing down your goals every morning, writing down your goals every night. Because in the reticular active reticular activating system, when you write stuff down, when you see it, write it, speak it, you know, it comes to reality.
You can you can manifest it into reality because you're doing the things in your life that and the actions that are gonna get you to where you wanna be. So everybody out there, you know, they're listening to this. Just keep on learning and growing, and, yeah, just have fun. And remember, time is short. You think you have time, but you don't. Average age is, say, males are 78 to 80. I'm 51. Right? That means I have 29, 28 summers left. I put everything in summers.
I have 28 summers left, Tom. That's it. And I have a lot of stuff I wanna do. So, you know, so think about it. Think how many summers you have left, and what you wanna do. And you don't wanna work until that last summer. You wanna take some off, so really you have only a certain amount of time to get certain goals done. I told you guys this would be good. And I love you, man. You're the best. Thank you. Yeah, brother. Thank you for coming on and telling your story. Thank you, man.
Thanks for having me. Thanks to your audience. I hope you guys get something out of it. I hope you learned at least one thing. If you ever need anything, just reach out. I'm on social media. I'll help you out, answer your questions, anything you need. Guys, Zap Mortgage, if you're looking for a mortgage. And don't forget, go pick up Anthony's book. It's called Race for Greatness. It's on Amazon. We'll see you next time, guys. Thank you for joining us. Anthony, thank you again, brother. Love you.
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