(upbeat music) My back does not appreciate that at all. Was it worth it? No, not at all. No, no. I mean, I've got some stories. Oh, you have some incredible stories. Acquiring minds want to know, well, we'll just tell you what it was. Getting old, this is what they say about getting old. It's not necessarily graceful. I'm talking to the lady that's in an e-brace. I know, like stereotypical, like old couple. I don't enjoy running at all. They had to drag me off the floor as I'm like whimpering.
And I'm laying there for like 20 more minutes because I can't move. No, I laid there like a limp dead fish. That day was the greatest thing. They gave me laughing gas, I got a shot, but yeah. That couple's in trouble. Did you know it? The physics of being nine months pregnant, bending down, trying to, you know, they're all about you and taking care of you. Hello? Yeah, I totally stole your show that night. I mean, I did get a medal of honor for it. You did, you did. You got that gold medal.
Gold star. Hey, Jesus. Yeah, praise Jesus. Ha! You're not gonna win this. Yeah, yeah. We're both smiling at each other because I think that's one of those things that you believe that you help a lot. And then there's things that we pay people for. And then there's things that we pay people for. Which gets longer and longer. You ran head first into a moving car. Yes. My brother, which just got hit by a car. I still think it was a sabotage. Someone cut his brake line, his brake line.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty wicked scar. Isn't that always how it happens? It's always how it happens. It's always the one more time. And it is a gash that you could measure. And I was like, I will go with a little master. And I've been there for a while now. It's like when I was younger. So for the record, don't do this. Don't do this. Just, you know, I was like, what? And I, 2008, believe it or not, was a really long time ago.
Yeah, I mean, and that's bad, but I think her justification, even after the fact, that's almost worse. Blase about it. I just wanted you to have a dose of reality. And who gave her, who, I mean, who named her? Don't you dare have a positive attitude going into something that could just ruin your life. They got a name for that lady. Aww. No, I'm coming. Oh, yeah. I'm gearing up and I'm coming. I will get you. Megan's back to back to back to back to back. You are a very important person.
A Blensingney-Burner incident. Once in Burners, I lost my eyelashes, by the way. I don't know what that means, but that sounds dangerous. Well, that don't go well together, right? Because we're idiots, right? I, you know, I got away with it. One was super fun. That was the Halloween blizzard. Yeah, we couldn't even see out some of our windows because there was just too much snow. Yeah. The actual temperature was negative 36 degrees and the wind chill was negative 66, I think.
We were wearing heated apparel at this point. Randy. Randy. I can't put my arms down. Aww, if you have a doxy, they hate snow, so. We're not on the same page all the time because you're not necessarily finishing my excursions. There you go. That one works. Welcome to the Mr. and Mrs. English podcast. I'm Megan. And I'm Sean. We're here to talk about the wild ride of raising kids and growing careers, and keeping life together in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all in this crazy journey together. How did you know it was episode 11 so quickly? Episode 11 so quickly? Yeah. Well, last week was episode 10. Oh, okay. Seriously? Yeah, I haven't been counting, I guess, as well as you have. When I do the video, when I put the things up, everything's episode 10 or episode 10 teaser, episode 10. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I'm very aware. You are. Episode 11, yeah, we're into double digits. It's crazy. Wow, yay, we made it. Yeah, great stuff.
Well, welcome everybody, episode 11. Episode 11. That's right. Well, I know we, if you see me looking uncomfortable and squirming a little bit if you're watching it on YouTube, I know you can't tell when, maybe I'll groan a little bit or whatnot, but we were taught, I left you last week saying, "Hey, it's spring." And we're gonna start cleaning up for spring and doing some of this. Well, I was yesterday. You were, you worked outside a lot yesterday.
Yeah, I got a lot of some weed pulling going on, some of the weeds, cleaned up some of the bushes, trimmed up some of these trees and stuff in the backyard. But the long and the short of it is, my back did not appreciate it. No, it did not. As much as you appreciate it and I appreciate the house looking nicer, my back does not appreciate that at all. Was it worth it? No, not at all. No, no, no. I feel terrible for you.
I mean, you've been plagued by back spasms and herniated discs and all of that for years now. Well, yeah, but I mean, I had it under control. It was really from my early 20s to maybe my early 30s because the last real bad one was the night bear was born. Yeah, uh-huh. We know that story pretty well, but yeah. No, I mean, I didn't know what it was for the longest time and I don't know if it was just because I stopped playing so many sports and I wasn't stretching as much.
But I think the long and the short of it, the root cause is just lack of flexibility in my hamstrings, which causes back spasms kind of. And this isn't just your run of the mill back spasm. I mean, I've got some stories. Oh, you have some incredible stories. And this is also, a lot of people would probably, they see you stretching. You stretch a lot. All the time. Especially soccer games on the sidelines where you've been standing or sitting in lawn chairs, which aren't great support.
And I don't think anyone's ever really asked you like, hey, why are you stretching, like in the middle of just everyone? Yeah, it's not my gymnastics career. No, no. So for those of you who have always, inquiring minds want to know, well, we'll just tell you why it's because of the bad back. Yeah, I hate to say it's bad back because now that I know for the longest time, I didn't know what it was. So I do have a couple, what is it? Bulging discs. I've got a couple degenerative discs.
So I do, I have got some back issues in the future that are gonna really kind of come to, it's gonna come to a head at some point. That hasn't yet. I've also got another issue in my neck now too, where I've got a pinched nerve in my neck through my spine because that's, now that's another new issue. Getting old, this is what they say about getting old. It's not necessarily graceful. I'm talking to the lady that's in a knee brace.
I know, like one simple fall on a ski slope, like not doing anything crazy. Yeah, I know, we are at like the just stereotypical like old couple with these injuries, which is ironic because you especially work out, you keep it loose, you went for a run right before you were out doing yard work, which really helps your back most of the time. That's why, that is why I run. I don't enjoy running at all. I know some people love it and whatnot.
I do like getting out and it's nice in the morning and the sun and the birds and all that kind of stuff. I do like that, it's in then, but it's mainly to keep my back loose. So I have to stretch, I have to get at least a run in every other day to get my back loose or else I get these back spasms. But to my point earlier, I've had it under control for 10 years now, almost 15 years now. This is kind of the first time, and I'm not bad right now.
It's just tweaked just slightly, but more so than usual. I don't know why this time is worse, but I mean, I've been, I used to always do it playing basketball after, now this is just in my 20s. So this is after I was done on actual teams and whatnot. So I'd be playing pickup games at 24 hour fitness or something like that. But I remember one time I went up to jump, to get a rebound or something like that, and I felt it the second I jumped and I literally came down crashing to the floor.
And again, these are not just run of the mill, like I'm gonna limp around back spasms. These are back spasms that I'm literally yelling, whimpering in public on the basketball floor. They had to drag me off the floor as I'm like whimpering, like grimacing. Because it's, I mean, it is, it's full body. I mean, outside of my kidney stones, this is by far the worst pain I've ever had. Oh, yeah, well I remember. You've had them now. Yeah, at once. You had something similar a year ago or so?
A couple years ago, yeah, it was awful. It was awful. And I remember saying, I'm like, I hate that you have it, but I'm glad you have an idea of what I went through back then because I mean, I remember at CSU even, I had this one of the first times and I was just on the couch, they got me back to the couch. I have to have people. So literally to finish that 24 hour fitness one, they dragged me off the court of basketball court, which is a pickup court, you know what I mean?
Like all these guys who don't know each other, they're like, get the guy off the court, you know what I mean? Like what is wrong with this guy? Writing the chalk around you, apparently. Yeah, well no, they dragged me off the court. I'm a foot off the line now and I'm laying there for like 20 more minutes because I can't move. I cannot move anything in my body and if you've ever done this, you know everything runs through your back, your posture, your core, all that kind of stuff.
So moving your neck, moving your head anyway goes through your core. So I literally cannot move without it sending just a shock of the second worst pain I've ever had and it's lasting. So I laid on the side of the basketball court for 20 minutes. Like I can't only imagine what those people thought. They didn't know you. What is that guy doing? Well, especially if you're playing with like older players in your 20s and they're looking at you like, you're in your prime, man, what's going on?
It's not like I got off the court and went and sat down on the bench and you know, I was just putting my head down and like just taking a moment to catch myself. No, I laid there like a limp dead fish on the side of the basketball court for like 20 minutes till finally I think somebody like went and got a manager or maybe I asked for that. Right. Like I need help. I gotta get home now. Cause I can't walk. I can't move, let alone walk. I drove there.
Long story short on this particular event, I've done this badly during that 10, 15 year period. Yeah. More than a handful of times, maybe less than 10, but I mean the bad, bad, I've tweaked it a million times. Right. But the bad, bad ones like this one, I was in Kansas City at this time and the manager of 24 hour fitness Uh huh. And three other guys carried me to my car, put me in the backseat of my car.
The manager had have somebody follow him as he drove my car 15 minutes to my apartment in Kansas City where they then had to drag me up to the stairs and lay me on the floor, my third bedroom apartment building. What? Where I had a roommate at the time and I laid on that floor sweaty, right? I had been playing basketball. Oh yeah, yeah, you're not clean. For two days, for 48 hours, just grimacing in pain. I tried to like wash myself with like a wash rag because I was sweaty.
Yeah. And now it's all dried on me, but I cannot move because the back spasms are so bad. 48 hours into it, you know, at the time I was in college, I was, you know, I worked at like the Cheesecake Factory or something stupid. Not stupid, but just what you do when you're in college. Right. You know, I had three jobs at the time probably, but I didn't have medical insurance because I'm working all part time jobs to work around 20 credit hours.
You know, now I'm a non-traditional student at the time. So, you know, I'm just trying to make things work. Don't have, it was so bad. Well, I'm also having to use the restroom in the middle of the floor of the family room because I can't get to the bathroom. I literally did not move from that position, just writhing in pain all night long, all the next day. So I called an ambulance to come get me. They gave me laughing gas. They took me down the stairs in a stretcher.
So when I have these things, and if you've ever had them, they're bad. Horrible. And I don't know, I think everybody says they have a high tolerance, pain tolerance. I have a high pain tolerance. I mean, I can't feel, whatever. I have a high pain tolerance. Yeah, yeah. These bring me to my knees, not even to my knees, prostrate to the ground for hours, days on end. So I figured out that laying down on them was the worst thing I could do. Yeah. Like that day was the greatest thing.
They gave me laughing gas. I got a shot in the butt. I mean, yeah. (laughing) So like adrenaline and all kinds of stuff. But staying active, staying loose, walking on it, trying to keep it loose is what helps. So if I kept the cameras rolling after I sit here for 40 minutes and then try to get up, it would be pretty funny. It'll look like I'm 98 trying to get up. Oh, we should try that though. I'll go for a walk. We're gonna have to go for a walk, yeah. And then watching you get up and you're...
Oh man, you all are gonna be like, that couple's in trouble. But you know it now, because when you did it, I remember being like, see, you can't put your socks on, it's impossible. You gotta bend your neck, everything. Well, I say, so I've really only been through one of these. I think one of the really bad ones, we were still living in separate cities. And so I wasn't there to see all the nitty gritty.
But I jokingly say that you're the reason I went into labor with our first one, our first child, because you were getting ready to go to work that day and I was very pregnant and you couldn't put on your socks or shoes. And so I had to help you put on your shoes that day.
And just, you know, the physics of being nine months pregnant, bending down, trying to help a man put his shoes on was probably enough to send me into labor because I went to the doctor and they're like, yeah, you should probably stay here. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah. But then you poor thing, you had to walk with me for hours. You know, that's what you do when you're in labor, you walk. Yeah, you literally went into labor that night.
So to make sure people go, and everybody that's had a kid knows it, like they tell you, like, you're not quite ready, do some laps. Do some laps. And at one point you're like, I gotta sit down. And being a good supportive husband, I'm like, well, I mean, obviously I can't just like send my pregnant, my nine, my literally giving birth and the next 24 hours wife on her own out there. So I mean-- You walked with me. You were faster than me. I'm dragging a leg. You were, you were.
And then, quite literally, as I'm giving birth, the nurses are like, do you need a place to sit, hon? You know, they're all about you and taking care of you. Very concerned about me. And like making sure that you're comfortable. And I'm like-- As I'm standing bedside, but trying, you know. Trying to-- Standing straight up on a hard floor though, is the worst. Was really, was the worst. For a long period of time in the same spot.
Right, which the first is always a very long process to get that baby out. So I just remember being like, hello. I totally stole your show that night. It was pretty funny. Yeah, as you gave birth. Yeah. They're more concerned with my pain than yours. Well really, because they see the pain that I had, they see that all the time. And they're like, she's gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably true. She's fine. This is just the process. Yeah. But this guy, he's in a lot of pain.
You were probably white as a sheet. I don't really, sadly, I don't really remember your face being pale or whatever. I remember being very conscious of the fact that you were in pain and that this was a sacrifice for you to be like-- It's going too far, it's saying sacrifice. Well, yeah, yeah, it was very-- I was in pain, it was uncomfortable. I was probably grimacing. I mean, you do what you do. Anybody else would have done the same thing. Oh yeah. I mean, I did get a medal of honor for it.
You did, you did. You got that gold medal. Gold star, no, I didn't. And that's why I always laugh in church, right? When you have to stand and sing during the worship period. I'm swaying back and forth because I cannot stand straight up on a hard surface. Yeah, well I just thought it was because the spirit was moving you. Well, that's what I was going with this. I think people behind us think, oh man, that guy is into it. He's got the sway going on. The spirit is in him.
Praise Jesus. Praise Jesus. (laughing) Holy. Can I get a witness? Yeah, no, that's me keeping my back loose. Yeah, well, because it's a cement floor. You're just trying to keep it loose. People that know know. Oh yeah, yeah. You know, it's, and I don't want to do it again. It was, my day's a bit, I guess pulling weeds and bending over all that kind of stuff in the backyard. It's got to come to an end, I'm getting old for that. Yeah, or at least a shorter duration.
It would have been helpful had I been able to help you. I don't have that bending radius yet. I mean, I've pulled quite a few weeds. I can help. So we could get twice the work done if I were to help. Yeah, we're both smiling at each other because I think that's one of those things that you believe that you help a lot in. No, no, no, I wouldn't say I help a lot, especially since we've moved here. I haven't done any yard work since we've moved here. It's a big property.
So it would be a shocker if you actually got out there and helped. Yeah, I haven't pulled weed, you're right. I pulled weeds though at our house down the street. Yeah, I don't, I will make sure I say you pull more than your weight at this household that in no way, shape or form say that. You're lazy about that. You're busy doing your own stuff the whole time. We've always been really good about divvying up things and generally speaking, that's one you don't have a lot of time for.
You don't have a green thumb, so it's nothing that you enjoy. No. But I always get a laugh at it. Every time you do it, you've done it for 20 years that I've known you like, oh yeah, let's go do weeds. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. I think in your mind, you're doing more weeding than you really actually are. Like springtime, I think I would help, but it's like the weeding is like a three season out of the year kind of a thing. You gotta keep up on it. And you gotta keep up on it.
And that's where I fall off. Like I'm like all gung ho those first couple really nice weekends. I'm like, let's pull weeds and let's mulch. And then I'm like, okay, we did that for two, three weekends, I'm good. Yeah, yeah. It's not one of those things you can just kind of be over. I'm over this one. Right, right. It's like, oh, I did laundry two months ago. Two months ago. Do it again? Yeah. Yeah, you imagine?
Yeah. And that is, I mean, I'd be interested how our listeners kind of divvy up chores in the house. Like we have, we kind of have like a pretty clear line of like, these are the things you do. These are the things I usually do. And then there's a few things that we do together, but. And then there's things that we pay people to do. And then there's things that we pay people to do. Which gets longer and longer and longer every year. And now. It's gonna get even longer.
Well, it's gonna get even longer, yeah. We're gonna get some people to weed for us. Fantastic. It's just, you just put more things on that list until you're in an old person's home and you're paying people to help you go to the bathroom. That's just where it ends. And we're about halfway down that list. We are. Oh man, if they start helping us go to the bathroom, we're in trouble. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, don't, yeah. Well, cause we've tried to have our kids help. Help with what?
Like some of the. Let's be clear what we're help. Not going to the bathroom. Not going to the bathroom. Gosh, they've never, no. But like the weeding, wasn't it a couple of weeks ago, I was, where was I? Cause I can't really go outside. You were probably weeding, helping honey. I was, yeah. You know how much you like to do that? Such a help on it. Such a help. You had the kids doing hard labor outside though. Just a few weekends ago. I honestly don't remember where I was.
Well, our oldest is still paying off from the hood, the $600 hood that we had to replace on somebody's car. Quick side note story here. Eight months ago, our oldest is blazing down a little hill right next to our house, literally 300 feet down the street. It's a hill down to a T intersection that to one side is a cul-de-sac and the other side, I mean, it's not heavily used. No, it's not. Especially from the cul-de-sac one.
No, no. Long story short, I mean, when do we teach our oldest to look both ways in crossing the street? I don't know. I think that's been a standard rule since he learned to follow directions. Yeah, I think so. Most kids know that by the time they're walking. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, he didn't do this on a bike and he ran head first into a moving car. Yes, he did. On the street. He went over the handlebars, landed. He's fine, a little scuffed up. Hopefully learned a lesson.
Yeah. But bent in the front wheel of his bike and same thing with this person's hood. Yep, so we agreed to help with the cost of the hood of the car. Of course, our youngest is traumatized. I don't think he's ridden his bike since then because he watched the whole thing. That's always a very unsettling thing when your youngest comes home and is like, my brother just got hit by a car. It doesn't help the same hill. A year earlier, he went down there and his brakes-- Oh, the little one.
Veiled, yeah, our youngest. Why he was already traumatized by that hill. Yes. And that just took it to the next level. And he hasn't gotten on his bike since. Early's gone down that hill. His brakes failed going down and he ended up getting stopped by the trash cans when we're out. I still think it was a sabotage deal, but someone cut his brake lines. Insurance money or something.
They went out and he just went straight in, yelling straight into the-- I mean, actually, thank God it was trash day because he ran into some big plastic trash cans. Trash cans instead of a brick house. At full speed going down that little hill. So anyways, yeah. And we've had some trauma in our family because that's where my scar on my chin came from. Most people can't see that, but I had 11 stitches before they knew how to do stitches back in the day, so I still have a nice scar on my chin.
Yeah, it's a pretty wicked scar. And that's from riding a bike down a hill one more time. My mom's like, "Hey, we're going somewhere." And I said, "One more time, of course." Ran down the hill, little jump in the-- Isn't that always how it happens? It's always how it happens. It's always the one more time. Yeah, I was trying to do a jump at the bottom of it because it was a nice little dip down there. Not only did I catch air, but I jumped off my bike same time, landed right on my chin.
Wow. I can't remember if that was 11 or 14 stitches. I had a couple. Yeah, and that's a pretty wicked one. Our youngest has had the same-- They've gotten better at stitches, because his little-- He had half the stitches, but he has no scar now. He has no scar. Already. Or, I mean, it's right. You can't see it. And it's-- Yeah. Yeah, his was just, someone landed on him at daycare. I remember, I get a call from daycare, and they're like, "You're gonna have to come pick your son up.
Like, he needs stitches." And I'm like, "Show me a pic." I'm thinking that they're overreacting, right? Yeah. I was like, "Can you just send me a picture? I'm on my way, but can you send me a picture?" Yeah. And it is a gash that you could measure. And I was like, "I will go a little faster." Yeah. But that one was pretty-- He wasn't doing anything bad, or his friend didn't mean to hurt him. Yeah, straight down to the tile floor. Yeah, straight down to the tile floor.
And what, four years old, three years old? Yeah, three. Yeah, three, three. He was still up there. He was, yeah. Yeah, because the poor kid, as he was getting stitches, he's like yelling, "I have a gold potty." And he was like strapped down at that time, and literally she was sewing, and we were like, "Just go in your pants, buddy." And he was, yeah, poor kiddo. Was that how they made him do? Because I wasn't there for that. Where was I?
You were with the two older kids out in the waiting room, yeah. Oh, I'd got there, I showed up late. You showed up late. And I was with them. That's right. Yep, yep. And you were inside there. Yeah, so I think you were just, you were man on the fort with the other two. I felt so bad. Well, they've come a long ways on that. We were talking about, just today, you're looking at your incisions, and I don't think you're gonna have any scars.
No, it'll be so, within three years, I will have zero scars. Maybe in a year, I'll have just these teeny tiny ones. I mean, the surgeon was saying, he's like, "I like to channel my inner plastic surgeon." And he gave me internal sutures. It's like, I don't even have external stitches. So this is one of those things, again, we're getting to that age where, and I've been there for a while now, it's like, when I was younger.
(laughing) This could be a segment, this could be a segment of the show, recurring one, like, "When I was younger, "we didn't have this, we did this." But does anybody get staples anymore? Do you know? I think so. People do get staples, okay. Well, I mean, I think so. Because I've got all these scars on my lower legs, right? That's what ended my college career. I call it a career, but, you know, I mean, it ended my college playing basketball days. Yeah, yeah.
Was I had surgeries on both my lower legs. One of them, a nerve was cut, and there was an issue, and there was a long-standing medical follow-up after that.
But because of that, and there was exploratory surgeries, they'd go and reopen it multiple times, but-- It makes me knee hurt to even talk about-- I remember when they opened it up for the big exploratory one, trying to fix the nerve in my lower leg, they used staples to close it up, and I had like 20 staples going down my leg, and it's like, I got a big old nasty scar from that now. You do, mm-hmm. I mean, do they not think of that kind of thing then?
Or is this, because it was a different, no, I was the same doctor then. I ended up suing this guy, I mean, it's not like I didn't make any money off of it. I did, but such a minimal amount that it was ridiculous. For losing my basketball scholarship, I never played again after that at a high level. At least, organized. I have permanent nerve damage down there. And now I have a nice scar from it too. That was a big tangent there too.
When I was young, they still used staples, and they didn't care about cosmetic, not having a big old scar, because I've got scars all over from the few times I've had either staples or stitches. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I don't know, I think they do use staples sometimes, but I think there is, medicine has progressed to a point that they don't always have to.
I mean, I remember even when our youngest cut his chin, it was such a clean cut that it was like, well, maybe they can glue that close, you know? And I was too wide. (laughs) But yeah, it's amazing what they do. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I mean, I know my sister had similar surgery to me, and she has a massive scar on her knee. I was just gonna bring that up, yeah.
I don't know what extent of her injury was, but I know yours, you know, you checked at least three boxes of things that had to be fixed while they were in there. Yeah, yeah, and she had two, but I mean, she has a big old scar. Yeah, they opened her up. Mm-hmm. So, five little incisions for you.
Yeah, and again, I don't know how much more or less damage, but still, it's just crazy how, well, and even when I was talking to someone about this surgery, this person told me it was the worst pain she's ever had in her whole life. She's like, "I've had multiple surgeries." So for the record, don't do this. Don't do this. This person still thinks she's in the right. Like, I just wanted to bring you back to reality.
Yeah, because I was like, "Oh, you know, "I'll probably, I'll be fine, it's all good." Part of it was I kept saying these things for my own self because-- You were staying positive. I was trying to stay positive and because-- Try not to freak yourself out. Right, like, because I don't know. It's scary enough going into surgery, even if it is a routine surgery. There's a lot of unknowns, and so I was, I kept being positive for my own self to be like, "I got this, I can do this."
She's like, "It was the worst pain I've ever had. "I've had multiple surgeries. "I've never felt anything this bad." And I was like, "What?" And I did ask her at the time, I was like, "When did you have this done?" She was like, "2008." And I was like, "Okay, that was a long time ago, 2008." Believe it or not, it was a really long time ago. And so I'm like, "Well, medicine's probably "come a long way, I hope."
Yeah, and that's bad, but I think her justification, even after the fact, that's almost worse of what she said. I know. Tell them what she said. She's like, "You were just being so positive "and so blase about it, I just wanted you "to have a dose of reality." And who gave her, who, I mean, who named her the reality queen of America? I just need to make sure everybody's feet are on the ground here. Don't you dare have a positive attitude going to something that could just ruin your life.
What if they cut an artery and you lose a leg? It's happened. I mean, you got a name for that lady. Aww. Aww. Debbie Downer. Jeez, I mean, I know. It's just-- That bugged me, though, that somebody took it upon themselves to be like, "You're just being too positive." Yeah. "I need to give you a dose of reality, "bring you back down to the--" Yeah, because it honestly sent me to-- Because it changed the way you thought. It made you nervous again. I was terrified.
In that instant, my instinct was to call and cancel and make up some excuse to cancel. Now, logic pulled through and I was like, "You can't do that. "That's absolutely stupid." But for that split second, I wanted, my reaction was to run and avoid. Because it scared me. But anyway, it is what it is. But I mean, yeah, I think the injuries have just, I don't know, hopefully we can, hopefully your back isn't, it doesn't seem to be one of those high watermark, super, super horrible ones yet.
But you're definitely uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable. It's one of those things where, I mean, it's gonna go one way or the other, right? And sometimes you just don't know. Sometimes another little tweak just sends it over the edge and then it's two weeks till your back to moving normal. So I will ask though, what is worse, back spasms or kidney stones? Kidney stones. Yeah, okay. Kidney stones are the worst.
I mean, the last time I had them, I think I said to you in one of those, and it was like, it took me four days to pass these ones. And I remember saying like, I can understand why people just wanna, if you're in the worst pain you've ever been in for an extended period of time, I literally said, I can see how people might just say, I'll call it a day. Like, it's been a good life. And I wasn't ready to call it a day then, but I mean, because I knew this would pass.
But at that moment I was like, I can see living in that kind of pain for, and at that point it had just been four days. It had been four days. So I mean, I was short of 100 hours of just pure, exhausting pain. That was rolling. Don't get me wrong, it was rolling, but it was rolling, I mean. It was, I mean, it was crippling. We saw it. It was crippling, yeah. So no, back spasms, I don't wanna pick, I don't wanna have to pick one or the other, but. I was just curious. Not even close.
I mean, they're terrible, don't get me wrong. Both are awful. I mean, back spasms, you know, on a level of nine to 10 are a 10. Yeah. Kidney stones are a thousand. A thousand, yeah. I wouldn't want either. Or wish them on my, well, I probably would wish them on my worst enemies. Only the worst of the worst enemies though. Worst of the worst. The worst of the worst. We were talking about things that we don't, that we don't have today. Yeah. That we do differently when we were younger.
And one of those things that we had just this week, which was scary for us, was there was a lockdown at one of our schools. Yep, yep. And we didn't, you know, I didn't even know about it. I didn't even get the email or the notification. You did, so at least you knew about it real time. I did, although I think the, I didn't really think through it all the way because it said, you know, this type of lockdown, here there was activity in the area is how they phrased it in the email.
Okay. And so I'm like, okay, nothing is at the school. And that, you know, classrooms are teaching and everything is resuming as normal. It's just, we don't let anyone in or out of the school. Yeah. What I failed to connect the dots to is that our daughter was outside at athletics. Yeah. And so she was outside the school. Potentially near to the perimeter of where it was. Wherever it was.
Yeah, and I also failed to appreciate that the coaches and teachers that were outside with the children at athletics probably had less context than those that were in the school. Yeah. Because there was something going on the intercom or something. And so I think there was, not I think, I know based on my daughter's, just based on her explanation that it was chaotic and scary. Well, she said that they're yelling, run, run. They're trying to get them inside the school, into the locker rooms.
When somebody says that, I mean, literally it was on the national news, I think, but just two weeks ago, some of our daughter's friends were at a cheerleading competition where two dads got into a fight and were yelling back and forth and something fell. Right. In there. Right. And when it hit the ground inside this gym, or a cheerleader, gymnasium, wherever they were at, it sounded like gunshots. It wasn't, but it sounded like it.
And there was stuff, social media was on the news, all of our people ran for their lives. Yep. And I just, the different, my point was, we grew up in an age where, we did not grow up in an age where, at least where I lived, where that was something we had to live through or worry about, code reds.
And we tell our kids, I mean, how sad and scary is that you have to tell our kids, like, if it's true, you're in a code red, like, I'm sorry, but you need to be in the back of the room, don't be in the front row, play dead. You need to text me. If you can do it safely, quietly, put your phone, you know what I mean? Know that dad's coming.
I mean, after we saw what happens in some of these places, in Yuvaldi, in Texas, stuff like that, if these first responders aren't gonna take it serious, and I mean, I get it. I don't wanna see anybody lose their lives. No. But if that's your chosen profession, and you're sworn to protect, you better protect. Yeah. At risk, because you know that's part of the job. Yeah. But I told my kids, you know, like, know I'm coming. Oh, yeah. I'm gearing up and I'm coming. I will get you.
Well, and I think some parents did. And that's why I didn't know about it. So I was a little mad after the fact that I didn't even know about it. Yeah, and I, because it was, you know, it seemed innocuous, and that it was precautionary, and me not making the connection, like, hey, you know, she's outside. Still think of text to me in the future. Yeah, is like, hey, did you-- Just so I can be, at least I can stay on top of it. My schedule, Megan's back to back to back to back to back.
You are a very important person when it comes to work. So-- No, I just have a lot of meetings. Yeah. That's my job, to do meetings. Yeah, and, but you've got to, when it comes to something like that, you gotta at least let me know, right? I'm sorry that you're meeting. I know you guys are solving the world's problems in that particular meeting, but our kids are way more important than that. Yeah. Yeah, and it-- So I've gotta know about that.
Yeah. So that I can stay on top of it, because I just have a more flexible schedule than you do. I can look it up, I can, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. If it's really that bad, I'll drive over there. When I looked it up and there was nothing, I mean-- There's nothing all day long once I found out about it. And there was like, there was something on Keller neighborly-- There was a bomb threat is what it was. Yeah, there was a bomb. At the church next to it.
But, you know, to bring this back around to more silly things, I mean, like the things that we got evacuated for school, it was never for that. I don't ever, I mean, Columbine obviously was the first time and that was well after. Columbine was crazy too, because it was in Colorado and I had played basketball in that school many times. That's crazy to me. So I had been to that school, obviously not my school, but I had played basketball up there.
And so I was aware of the school, I had been there. Yeah. And that was where the first big one happened, school shooting happened. Yeah. But that's just, that's a new world thing that you gotta find a way to fix. But, you know, when we were younger, you know, we got let out for much stupor stuff, you know, we read evacuate or whatever. I remember one time in science class, I was actually the one that caused the school to evacuate accidentally.
Me and I think his name was Paul, and I will all leave last names out of this. (laughing) But we were in science class and like, do they still have beakers and stuff like that? You know, test, what was the-- Oh, like the Bunsen burner. Yeah, the Bunsen burner. Bunsen burners are how I lost my eyelashes, by the way, which you don't believe me that, but our youngest has incredibly long eyelashes.
Yes. And I used to, I used to have comments on my eyelashes until unfortunately a Bunsen burner incident. (laughing) Yeah. They, it singed them off. They're blonde because they were singed for a while. I blonde one. That's crazy. And then they've just never grown back to that extent. Yeah. So again, another failure of mine, I lost my L'Oreal scholarship there, my chance to go professional with this. I know, you could have been an eyelash model.
Eyelash model. (laughing) Anyways, long story short, we ended up putting something like sulfur nitrate in sulfuric acid or something like that, these little black nitrate, something like that. I don't know what that means, but that sounds dangerous. Well, A, we're in seventh or eighth grade, so don't give us, maybe ninth grade, because I went, my junior high was seventh, eighth, ninth, but don't give us two elements that don't go well together, right? Because we're idiots, right? What?
So for some reason, we thought, whether we did it right or wrong, I don't even know, maybe it was innocuous or whatnot, but we ended up putting the nitrate into the sulfur, the acidic, whatever it was, I don't even remember now, but I just said it. And it created the worst smell you have ever smelled. I mean, it was like rotten eggs, but on, you know. (laughing) I can't believe you were not a troublemaker growing up. No. But you made the school evacuate. I did, yeah.
Because it smelled so bad, not because you set a fire or-- It must have been ninth grade, because this was honors biology or something like that, now that I think about it. Probably chemistry, even. Honors chemistry or something like that, but this was an honors class, and I remember my friend Paul, he took the hit for it. He actually got kicked out of the class because of it. What? Yeah, and I think that's just because I was maybe a little better well-known at the school. Just, you know.
Really get a little preferential treatment there? Yeah, I mean, I was in student government, I was in yearbook, I was, you know, I was voted best of this, certain things, you know, so I was a known quantity at the school, and I, you know, I got away with it. I mean, I did, I fessed up to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't get-- You didn't get the consequence. I didn't get any repercussions for it, right, exactly. That's hilarious.
I wonder how they got the smell out, or did it just reek for a long time? We ended up going back in after two hours, but we were all outside, it was a great break, it was fun, but it reeked. It was horrible. That's hilarious. See, we were never evacuated for anything. I mean, we had snow days that would close down the school, but we were, I don't, I think we were ever evacuated, and for the record, there were only two snow days. I went to school primarily in Minnesota.
Okay. A couple years in Chicago, but for the most part, for all-- Good snow in both places. Good snow in both places, but there were only two, and in all those years, and we have, what, at least two a year here in Texas? Yeah, well, I mean, yeah. Colorado, we didn't have very many snow days. We did get some early releases and some late starts because of snow, you know, but-- Occasionally we'd get those. They're prepared, those cities are prepared for it, drivers are prepared for it, I mean.
Texas or something else. Yeah, yeah. I do remember, though, the one that was, one was super fun. That was the Halloween Blizzard. Yeah. That was so fun, and then my older brother's friend had to stay with us because his mom was traveling and couldn't, she was a single mom and couldn't come back, and so, I mean, it was just like, we got to play outside, it was warm enough, and we had, you know, I think we got 38 inches of snow overnight, or something.
By warm enough, do you mean it was like negative 20? It was like 30, it was, you know, 25 degrees, and so when you're in Minnesota and it's snowing in 25 degrees. Short weather, yeah. That's like the best. But yeah, we couldn't even see out some of our windows because there was just too much snow. Yeah. It was up all over the windows, but the worst. They canceled school because the actual temperature was negative 36 degrees, and the wind chill was negative 66, I think.
So if your memory's wrong, worst case scenario, you're off by 10 degrees, negative 56, but you think it's negative 60? It was somewhere in the negative 60s. In the negative 60s wind chill. Yeah, it was. It's gotta be a record, that's incredible. It was incredible, it was. Did you go outside in it, just to feel it? No. How old were you? I was in high school. Okay. At what year, I don't know, but. You gotta be such a cracket reporter. How old were you? Did you go outside? What were you wearing?
When your parents... I didn't go outside because, I mean, it was so cold. It was dangerous. It was dangerous, and I remember it was beautiful sunny day. I'm surprised your family didn't go running in it. Yeah, no. They pride themselves in running in the coldest, stupidest brother. The coldest brother, yeah, they. We're gonna go for a walk.
We used to go there for Thanksgiving, and they're like, it's negative 20, or it's negative five with the wind chill, it's six actual, and they're like, does anybody wanna go for a walk? Well, and they all live in cold climates, so that's like normal. I know. And we're like, no. I know. It's the same family that made fun of our kids, though, for not knowing how to make a snowball. It's like, my kids have never been in snow. This was before we went skiing and all that.
Yeah, they had never seen snow before. I wasn't happy about that comment. I'm like, really? Anyways, but they, yeah, some people forget that it's not normal to be in negative 66, or negative five all the time, because our blood down here definitely thins. It definitely thins. I mean, if we're out at the sidelines, and it's anywhere close to, anywhere between 30 and 50, I mean... We're wearing heated apparel at this point. If there's a six on it, there is, because the wind's cold.
Yeah, it's cold here. I mean, some people would think that's crazy, but it gets cold here. What's that kid's name in "The Christmas Story" who's wearing so many-- Randy. Randy, yeah, I am Randy on the sidelines. Yeah. All the time. I can't put my arms down. Yeah, but I'm warm. And I look like a fool, because I know I'm just like state puff marshmallow man out. I've got, there have been times I've had upwards of seven or eight layers. Yes, you have. On the top.
And I've had one, two, three, four, I've had up to four layers on the bottom at a time. Yeah, yeah. Normally it's two, but one of those is fleece lined. Yeah, yeah. So that technically should count as two, but yeah. Good self, yeah. I remember one our daughter had, and that way we both had our ski pants on. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know why it feels colder in Texas, at like the same temperature that they have all over. And you're like, gosh, in Minnesota, 50 degrees feels fine.
In Texas, it is but cold. Well, and in Colorado, you can be, I mean, literally it is shorts weather at 40 degrees outside, and a long sleeve t-shirt. Sun is so hot. It's incredible. It's got the best climate there. Yeah, but that's why we get to go back. Yeah, we get to go and enjoy the snow and play in it, but not have to shovel it. Because with your back, I don't know that you should be shoveling snow either at this point. Just hire that one out too.
I gotta get some more jobs to afford all these people we're hiring. Look, I think it doesn't snow here very often. Yeah, yeah. Like it melts pretty quickly too. No, we never, well, no, we've never shoveled here. We do have a shovel. We have a shovel. Actually, I did shovel this last time. You did? Remember I had to shovel the walkway to Paris's little-- Oh, yep, yep. Potty spot. Yes, if you have a doxy, they hate snow.
So yeah, we had to shovel the way and we actually had to shovel off a spot where she would even go to the bathroom. Yeah. She did not like snow. Well, what do we got coming up here? We gotta keep this thing. Let's see, well, it's a spring break week. So we'll have, I mean, we're working. So, you know, the kids will be around. We'll have to, you know, find ways to keep them entertained. But yeah, we're, I don't know. We got the NCAA tournament coming up.
That's right, we have to fill out our brackets today. Fill out brackets, yeah, selection Sunday as we're recording. So it'll be, do you have an idea of who you're gonna put for, who's in the championship game? I don't know, you know, I might've put my money on Duke early, but they had two injuries this last week. Player of the year, I think, up there. He sprained his ankle. Sometimes that's tough to come back from. In such a short period of time. So no, I don't know.
It's not my Jayhawks this year though, that's for sure. In fact, by the time this airs, they may not even be in it anymore. It was so bad this year. Possibly. It's been frustrating to watch. Hopefully they show up. Yeah, I think I saw that Tar Heels might not even make it. Michael Jordan's armor modder. Are you kidding? Yeah, that's a long way. Has that ever happened? No, I don't know. I don't think so though.
They've been low seeds before, but I don't think they've ever been in danger of not actually making the NCAA tournament. Yeah, they'll end up in NIT. Yeah. So I think that maybe there was one year that did happen. But anyways, it's always fun to watch. So we'll have that coming up. We got spring break. We're trying to figure out how to, we're about 100 days out from our vacation going overseas and that's taken all kinds of planning. So we're trying to figure that out.
We're figuring out, we plan differently for these kind of things. I don't think we should show up on foreign shores with no plans. Nope. You're like, oh, we should. Yeah, I think you just haven't thought that far down the road yet that we need to have a lot of things planned out here. I have. I just, I'm not urgently planning it. No, we need, I wanna map out some of them. I think the whole timeline of like, oh, it's still 100 days. We still have time. No, I mean, again, I use the Disney example.
These hardcore vacationers, these things have been booked for millennia. I mean, those Disney people are all over it. There's so many things that we didn't get to do at Disney because we tried to do it five months out and people did it 12 months out. I think this is kind of the same way. We didn't get into the steakhouse. We wanted to get into, we'll figure that stuff out. It's one of the few instances probably that we're not finishing each other's. Sandwiches. Sandwiches, vacations. Vacations.
Sand castles, beach. I was trying to think how you could make that come around to the vacation. A little bit more towards what we were saying. You could try it again. Excursion, I mean, like we could. We would just have to-- Finish, you could try it again. Like, you know, it's just one of the few things that we just haven't, we're not on the same page all the time because you're not necessarily finishing mine. Excursions. There you go. Oh, it works, right? A little bit? It does, it does.
I like that one. All right, that works. Well, let's say goodbye to everybody unless you have anything else. No, until next time, everyone. All right, until next time. Have a great one. Bye. Rock on.