Noel Takeover: Kesha on Wayne's World

a really kind and lovely thoughtful person. UM. I met Kesha while working on her podcast, Uh Kesha and the Creepies, where she talks to all times of interesting people about all kinds of interesting stuff, typically UM revolving around the paranormal and you know, spooky stuff. Uh. And the first guest you ever had on her podcast was Alice Cooper Um, who she became a huge fan of from the movie

Wayne's World that we talked about today. Uh. It's very clear from talking to her that this movie holds a super special place in her heart, just like it does mine. We're pretty close to the same age and clearly both came up with this movie UM as kids, and it carried on with us throughout our adult lives. And it's something I've always kind of referred back to as for words of wisdom or very least, you know some pretty quotable quotes. Um, and Kesha seems to feel very much

the same way. So sit back and relax with your your eminem and popcorn. I know that's a Chuck favorite, and uh enjoy this very special movie Crush interview with the One and Only Kesha. I was just reading up on some some Wikipedia. You know Wayne's World. Well, you know, like I just like, I've seen this movie so many times. This is like I saw this in the theater when

I was a kid. I didn't even rewatch it for this because I can quote it like front to back, you know, any little tidbits about the production and stuff like that. It's kind of refamiliarizing myself with Like the time in which it came out. It was three I think, and it was the highest grossing movie of that the highest grossing movie of that year, and the highest grossing UH Saturday Night Live adaptation of all time, which totally makes sense because so many of those are hit or miss,

but this one obviously hit right. Oh my god, I mean it changed my life. That is a big statement, Sully Buddy Comedy. You got to explain how did Wayne's World the movie change Okay, for real, it changed my life because that was the first time I saw Alice Cooper on stage and I was like, whatever that guy's doing, I want to do what that guy does and feed my Frankenstein. Yeah, and just the stage show and then he was just like lovely afterwards, and of course like

it like made me in my heart. I was like, I want to do that. A. I'm obsessed with Alice Cooper and since then I have now become like really close friends with him. I went out to dinner with him, like last night. His daughter is one of my best friends. We did a song together. We've been snorkeling looking at sea turtles together. But it all started. It all started with Wayn's will of course. Yeah, and he was obviously also one of the first guests on your podcast. Yeah.

Um that scene is iconic for so many reasons. I think he sort of plays into this idea that he's going to be this like scary, you know, horror guy, but in fact he's like, well, actually, you know, what is it the Algonquin word with Millie Wake, which means

the good lad it's so good. It's just kind of how to party or what like, we're not worthy when they meet him, and of course, like every time I meet someone who I'm star struck by, I have to keep myself from doing that, and occasionally, depending on my mood, I'll just do it and just don't feel like what are you doing? I'm like, you don't know where to get it? Over with? Party with Alice Cooper? Hello, So I mean, look, that movie is just quotable on so

many levels. It's up there with like, let's say The Big Lebowski. For me, that's a movie that I can just like pull quotes from attached or use them in all kinds of different situations and they just applaud um. Yeah, So okay, change your life in terms of like maybe giving you a model for like an aesthetic like creatively in Alice Cooper. But what about the humor and kind of like the heart, Like what else really spoke to

you about Wayne's Oh my god? I mean so I am also obsessed obviously with Wayne, but Garth like his awkwardness. I was like, I really relate to that guy, like just feeling just like total awkward guy. And then Dana was a guest on Cash and the Creepies too, so I like fully almost I've got like sixty six point six percent of the people I want on my podcast, So now I just got I gotta get Wayne, you

gotta get Wayne. Well, now now they're doing those Uh I don't mean to sound negative, but those Uber Eats commercials they do together really freaked me out. They just they don't look right anymore for those characters. They they're a little too long in the tooth to be rocking those bigs. Um. But it's it's it's charming, but it still freaks me out a little bit. But I gotta ask. You're saying awkward you related to Garth. I don't see you that way. I'm sure a lot of your fans

don't see you that way. You've got so much confidence in Poison. I can never really picture you being that awkward kid. But can you talk about that time in your life and why you might have related to that character. I'm not like an awkward kid, I'm an awkward adult person.

Like fully, I'm so awkward. And then there's a part where he's decked out in all the different brands and he's talking about like, but what, I forget what the words are, but he's like, oh no, it's the whole sellout bit where it's I don't know why people just say I have to only do things for money. It's just sad. He's like, here, take one of these small

yellow different Yes, that's what it is. And it's just so funny because when you get to be an entertainer, then all of a sudden people want you to like sell a toothbrush, and I'm like, well, of course I

brushed my teeth. Okay, I'll sell this toothbrush. But then part of me always thinks of that scene in Wayne's world where he's like decked and all the brands, and I'm like, yep, I relate to that, and I relate to his awkwardness, just like yesterday I did a UM live stream and I just felt like it just he tried to teach me how to talk like him, but I can't do it. I just like to play. I don't know, it just like super awkward. Just I don't know, I'm awkward to ship well you know what that I

think it's endearing. And I honestly think that like being yourself and just owning it whatever that means, it's kind of just the only way to be. And I agree that movie kind of talk. It really is kind of about being yourself and about kind of doing your thing and not letting other people kind of like tell you who you are, you know, and maybe I'm like, yeah, no,

I think it is too. It's about like also like the lines of which I think this might also be like maybe i'm reading into it now, but I'm thinking about it, like the lines of which you're okay with and what is selling out? What isn't, like, because certain things aren't selling out, but you're dealing with a brand, and then certain things, I just feel like you're compromising

your art and your craft. And watching Wayne's World when name partner with what is his Name's Noah's Arcade, that's right, and then it just all turns into this like very polished song. And I relate to that because I remember my very first tour was with Rihanna, and I was like, Okay, I'm like this like little kind of gutter punk kid, and I live in this house with a bunch of different people, and like it was kind of like this

punk like flop house. It was just all different types of people sleeping there and it was fun and it was disgusting and it was great, and I was like, Okay, I want to make my life onto a stage performance in my life right now is it's not super glamorous. There are a lot of things duct taped together, and I'm not going to try to pretend to be some polished person that I'm just not. I'm just not that.

So then I hired a musical director to do like walk on music for when I was going on stage, and I remember he was a lovely guy, no shade to him, but he made a walk on music that sounded just like it was like here comes Kasha cashakshakeshahaesha. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Oh

my god, that's amazing. But that's so that's so funny because like, you know, you got your start being so you know, you do have that kind of rough aesthetic in a lot of ways, and you sort of like kind of came into your own before our very eyes. And then you've obviously turned made a lot of twist

and turns in your career. It always felt you know, like you um and now especially I feel like you've really kind of gone on this more almost like I don't know if the word psychedelic is right, is absolutely the right word. I was hoping you would use that word good. It's it's a it's a word I probably throw around a little too much even on the show. Uh, listeners jokes sometimes that there's a drinking game for every

time Noel says an aesthetic a psychedelic exactly. But but I think my point is about Wayne's world, and again I think we're like analyzing what's ultimately just kind of a silly comedy, but there is so much heart to it and it does have this message, but it's very self aware and it gets so meta at the end with like the multiple endings and kind of like these stock characters and the way it breaks all the walls,

you know of kind of reality. They open a door and there's like this training sequence from like Michian going on. You know. Um, I just love that about it. It's it's it is, it is psychedelic, and that it has all of these like things that couldn't possibly exist in reality, but it's also somehow grounded in reality. But then like magic and just kind of happen out of nowhere, you know,

it totally is. And then yeah, the whole thing is you're just like on this ride where you don't know what's about to happen, and I love that, and the awkward humor is great, and then there is so much heart. And then when Wayne walks up to the camera when Cassandra is filming the video with the snake, He's like, and there isn't any film in this camera and he rips it open and all the film comes falling out for like an awkward amount of time. It's just like

it just makes me so happy. Like that's my movie. I watch when all else fails during Quarantine. I have watched that movie. I can't even tell you, like so many times. If I'm stressed or I'm bombed or the world's falling apart, I'm like, you know what, I'm making all of the above, and there's like a narcissistic sociopath and this like I just put on Wayne's world, and I'm like, it will be okay, not because Wayne's world, Like you can understand Wayne's world, you know what I mean.

Like I'm kind of again probably overthinking this a bit, but it is like this universe that exists kind of like he's the narrator. He's talking directly to the camera. Um, it is literally his World, but it's also the name of the show. I recently, I have a twelve year old daughter who is basically like, might as well be Yeah, she might as well be like nineteen. It's ridiculous. She's gotten like super into like cosplay and weird anime and super bizarre humor, which is amazing. I love, you know,

her sense of humor. It's really dark and weird. And there's whole swaths of her life and the kind of humor and stuff she's into that doesn't connect with me. And I'm starting to kind of feel like an old man. But I made her. I literally made her sit down and watch Wayne's World one and two back to back

with you. And she wouldn't admit it, but I could tell she was glue to it because it has a similar sensibility to some of the very like Tim and Ariki that she's into um And I could tell she really loved it and she really got it, even though she would never say, whoa, dad, that was awesome. Thank you so much for showing me. It was like, yeah, it was fine, but I could tell that she was mega into it and that made me feel good. You're like, I did a good thing. You like it I did

a good thing. No, I think it is like very self aware is a good thing to pick up on it because I think, especially now, like it's great to be self aware. I feel like the younger generation is more self aware than at least I was. Ship. But I think that's a really good that's a really positive thing. So I think the whole movie being so self aware about how ridiculous it is makes it just so lovable. But it also has like a moral kind of compass, like a moral enter again, like we said about being

yourself and like not selling out too much. She can it's not even selling out if you're just successful. You can find success and do the things that you love without having to quote unquote be a cell. I think that's the message. And stick to your artistic guns and compromise where it's okay to compromise and you feel okay about it, but then also don't if it doesn't. And I think that is something that I've carried with me throughout my entire career. I will attribute that to also

to Wayne's World. And I had a reality TV show and I used to talk to the camera and I made an infinite amount of jokes about how awkward it was. But I was the only person that could talk to the camera because my brother would keep trying to talk to the camera and be like no, no, no, there's like Wayne's world. I ain't get to talk to camera, not you. So I definitely butchered some little stats up front.

I'm gonna go ahead and make that right. She came out in it was the tenth highest grossing movie of that year, and I was right. It does remain the single highest grossing S n L sketch based movie of all time. Um, and it was directed by Penelope Spiris. Do you know much about Penelope Spirist. I don't. I was like five. I was five when it came out, so I don't know like the details of it, like I would know like when I would look up stuff. I just know that I was like enamored. So tell

me about her. Well, she's really interesting. Um, she's someone that's worth looking into, just as like a badass woman. UM, so few women directors they get their due in Hollywood period. But she was definitely like a big shot, you know director. She did a lot of comedies and stuff, but she also did these amazing documentaries. One of them was called Heavy Metal Parking Lot. Oh my god, she did Heavy

Metal Parking Lot. She did. And she also did The Decline of Western Civilization uh in nineteen one, which was about like punk, and then she did The Decline of Western Civilation Part two, which was about metal and it was like all of these you know, Aussie and Kiss and Aerosmith and Megadeath and all these like Wasp. You know, there's the scene of like the Wasp guitarists like floating in a you know, pool on like a giant inflatable like duck or something like clearly smacked out and with

like a bottle of vodka. So it's just like the most like you know, debauched kind of view of that world ever. Um. And she did that. She did these amazing documentaries, and then she did like a bunch of like Chris Farley movie she did like Black Sheep, Love that one. She did The Beverly Hillbillies, the Little Rascals, like clearly she was Hitto the streak of kind of like old sitcom is being made into movies. Um. But then she just was like, you know what, fuck Hollywood,

and she never made another movie again. She like left, she moved, She completely disavowed everything because she was kind of almost forced out and was just treated like garbage and just was like, you know what, this isn't worth it, and so she she got out. Um, but she's just really outspoken woman. I really wish she had a podcast. Um, and it was just a super influential and I'm going to check her out now. You're super inspiring me to check her out. By the way, I messed up a

Spiris did not do heavy metal parking Lot. There were very adjacent films with the Western Civilization movies, but she didn't do that one. So I just wanted to get that corrective. Sure well, and Cassandra, I love having them. I don't know, she's like kind of a hero and

like stands her own and it's such a badass. I loved her character like growing up to me, I was like, I want to be I want to be like her, Like she's such a badass and she's so hot and confident, screams and covers these awesome songs, just like everything about her. I was like, she's a badass. Like she's definitely an

idol of mine. Absolutely, And uh, that's kind of what obviously attracts Wayne to her because she's immediately she know she what is she like does she kicks the bouncer's ass or some guy that like kind of accidentally groups her and she does this total like badass kind of ninja, you know, sequence um. And then she's also really approachable, like she's she's she's you know, tough, and she's not gonna put up with any ship, but she's ultimately like, you know, here, come to my loft so you can

you can come to my loft party or whatever. And then you know she likes him and he's kind of a nerd, Like he really isn't like a cool guy, Wayne, even like none of them are, and that's what makes

them so appealing. No, not at all. I'm actually taking this a step further, which may be totally inaccurate, but this maybe at five years old where my love of nerds that are awkward was born because I like wanted to be her and like dress like her and with the lace and the red and playing the bass and it was just all really so cool and like you said, she'll take no ship, but she's really sweet and and then she just like I love, she picks a total

nerd over this, like smooth talking, rich guy that's good at ordering food on the phone, right right, right, yeah, Cantonese. He like totally flexes that he I can speak Cantonese, Like yeah, oh man, that's amazing. Um. So that's the thing too with Cassandra. So that's Tia Carrera as the as the actor that plays Cassandra, and she actually does all those vocals. Um you know, is you can't fake that kind of you know, rock and roll badassory and obviously huge kind of fashion icon the way she like

presents herself. And I imagine that would have spoken to you as well, Oh my god fully, Like my best friend and I saw it. I was like five and she was like seven, and we went to the thrift store and found a bunch of like lace and made like I was in a sewing school. Miss Marguerite sewing school.

She's a lovely older woman who was very very conservative, and so we went into sewing school after watching Wayne's World and we're like, we're going to make a dress like this, and she was horrified and like a five year old and a seven year old are trying to make like Cassandra's dress, which is like a mega mini

like pleather skirt. Yeah, And I remember my friend actually who's still my best friend, she got kicked out of sewing school because she's like, no, I am making this dress and Miss Marguerite was like, no, you're gonna look like a baby hooker. And she was like, I'm making the dress. And then of course I was like loyal friends. Yeah, I was like, loyal friend knows like she can wear what she wants to. And that was the story of how I got kicked out of sewing school. It happens

to the best of us, happens. Yeah, my kid is actually taking sewing classes too, and she does all this crazy like mega creative uh cosplay stuff, Like she's really into anime and she like sows these insane costumes and like does these like TikTok videos and stuff. That's great though, I think it's such a good creative outlet to sew and make clothing creative. And it's also but it's like it's weird because she's twelve and some of the stuff

does push these be these boundaries a little bit. But I know what she's doing and I know what her intent is, and she just owns it. And it's like if someone says to me, like, how can you let your daughter dress like that or whatever? My answer is like, I don't let her do ship like I mean, this is a creative outlet for her and she's owning it and she does it and she just does it and it's not you know, there's just no way around it.

But it's not like something and I'm concerned about her the idea of being too sexualized or any ship like that. I mean, it's totally a form of expression and I'm proud of her, you know, and I think it's incredible when I think at the time, this was before TikTok was a thing on Instagram, Like it was just me and my best friend walking around the house looking like baby hookers. So I'm pretty sure my mom would be like fucking anywhere in this like red very short, inappropriate thing.

But like we were feeling ourselves so hard and like in the basement singing. I forgot what it was like trying to learn how to scream like Tia Carera totally oh yeah at the end of the ballroom blitz that that's still her scream is like, oh my god, she smashes. It kind of cuts you to the soul. It really like connects with you, you know, um viscertainly like in this primal way. I absolutely love her performance. Can we talk a little bit about the soundtrack? Was compact disc

I ever owned? I had this on CD, first one I ever bought with my own money. Turned me on to so much cool music. It's got like Dinosaur Jr. On it. It's got like a lot of amazing classic rock obviously, but it's kind of all over the place. And then obviously it put Bohemian Rhapsody on the Legiti, Oh my god, I totally forgot. That's an also huge moment in my life, like talking about changed my life. That was the moment I was introduced to Queen and Forever.

When I hear that song, I know, it's like it's a masterpiece. I listen to that song all the time, but I can't help but like thinking about the Mirthmobile and like if you're going to spew spew into this and then like it shaped my life in that when I would have been going to college those years instead, I came to l A and lived at this like grimy, crusty house and me and all my friends would like drive around going to shows being like rusty kids, and then we pick up the people that were too drunk

to drive and throw them in the backseat. And we would always quote like, if you're gonna exbuse s you into this and the tiny, tiny, tiny paper cup, which I that's that sells the joke because this tiny little paper cup so good. But I have so many friends that have been in that condition where I'm like, all right, get in the back, let's go. We're going to a show like Ballroom Blitz. That was the first time I

heard Bohemian Rhapsody Alice. This first time I ever saw what Alice Cooper was, and Uma Ballroom Blitz, Bohemian Rhapsody and Alice Cooper like that to me was such a gateway drug too good music. That movie was UM. I was a big fan of dream Weaver. That's got a lot of really cool cynthy blips and bloops and stuff. And that's when he first sees Cassandra and it cut and does this cheesy, kind of like seventies halo effect

around her head and then dream Weaver plays Um. But I had the soundtrack and I listened to this soundtrack on repeat, so I really got into that song like um Radar Love I believe was also in it by Golden earring Yes, and Isn't There? I could be wrong, Isn't there Foxy Lady? Because when Garth you know, is super hot for that blonde at the donuts and he finally gets his you know, courage up and he just takes it to eleven. You know. Oh, I loved it,

Like it's a fantasy. I think it's a fantasy sequence. Maybe I can't remember exactly. It's my fantasy like if some man did that, I mean, any man out there and wants to woo me, all you have to do is be really awkward, stab donuts and sing Foxy Lady awkward. There's part where he like loses control of his like mid section. He's looking at it like it's sort of

like got a mind of its own. That was the part of the may my daughter kind of cringe because she's she's sort of recoils it like anything like remotely sexualized or like you know, making out. Even should we like cover her eyes? It's pretty adorable, but that was She's like, what is going on? I'm like, it's funny, it's hilarious, and he's like yeah, it's just the power of Hendrix, like takes over his groin, which happens, I thank you, Hendrix compels you. It's just like he just

is my hero. I think that movie is my hero. It's not even one person or one part. The whole movie is my hero. Yeah, I'm with you. Like if um wait, she were a president, she'd be Babraham Lincoln. I still I still have a friend every day on my birthday text me if you're a president, you'd be Babraham Lincoln. And it's my favorite birthday text. And if Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be Prey Leans

and Dick and totally it would be quotable infinitely. What is it they're there's laying on the roof of that car, which is like I want to know where that place is by the way, like oh, I think I know where it is, but just in general, like in a city with an airport, I want to know where you can pull your car up and like lay on it and watch the planes. It sounds terrifying, but it's also just what a great device the bonding moment between them,

Like there's special place they go. I'm pretty sure that's in l A because I was so obsessed with that movie when I was little. Whenever we'd come to l A. I'd be like, I want to go do the Wayne's World thing, And my mom would drive me to l A X and park the car and let me lay on the roof to sit under the airplanes and scare the ever living ship out of myself. And that started with Wayne's World. Like, that's why I'm telling you this movie changed my life. Like I can see that psychotically.

It's also it's got so many like amazing pop culture in perences that I probably didn't I mean definitely didn't fully get at the time. But then over time, as I started taking in more stuff and more music and more references and all that, It's kept having a new life for me every time i'd watch it, or I'd get more jokes every time i'd watch it, because I've grown up with this movie as as clearly you have. Yeah, No, I'm like now, I'm like, I know what I'm doing tonight.

I'm just gonna watch it again. It really is like a comfort or something like a warm blanket of a movie because everything ends up great ever, and you know, like nothing really bad is gonna happen to anybody. They're gonna have some struggles along the way. That of course, there's the classic like friend break up and then they get back together, and that of course is around the plane where he's swearing and saying all this horrible stuff with the planes fly, did you kiss your mother? And

they which is brilliant, It's brilliant, Oh my god. And then they you know, they come back together and they unite for the cause of say, even love. And then at the very end, like you said, like it kind of has like the super weird ending, which I never saw coming and so appreciate that it wasn't just like the straightforward, feel good ending, but they give you options like who would It's like one of those books that

you get to picture of your own adventurous situation. Yeah, exactly. Now, I think we're both on the same page, and probably I think we're probably close to the same age and probably experienced this like in a very similar trajectory, but obviously very different, you know, like as a dude, you know, I took a lot of different things from it than than you did, like as a young woman growing up and you know, being all about empowerment, and music and

just being a badass. And I think I probably got a lot of my sense of humor from it, like a lot of kind of you know, dry kind of net a sense of humor. I necessarily would never claim to, you know, have mastered it, but it definitely started me off on the right track in terms of totally same. There was another part that I was just thinking, but it is escaping me. Wait, there was something. There's another part that's so good. I mean, the whole thing is

so good. If anybody hasn't watched Wayne's World, which oh my god, would be insanity, but it's never too late to start on the right path. Go watch it is it is the right path because it really does have like wisdom heart, absolute bonkers absurdist humor, really good physical comedy to a lot of like Pratt falls. I love when they're doing the Army crawl and Garth a fella

on my Keys. It's so good and so traumatic. Oh I remember when um Stacy Wayne's X yes of course on the bike, on the bike, but also giving him a gun rack and he's like, I don't know a

gun let alone. Many guns facilitate an entire rack. That's prefer me though, is that he said he's very specifically says a gun a gun, let alone many guns that would facilitate an entire rack your mental you know or whatever, and that she's the one who does all the good pizzles with Lara Flynn Boyle right from Twin Peaks and she like falls through that skylight and then she's trying to like, you know, get his attention, and it's just

the saddest thing. And then she's later you see her in the neck brace and they're playing street hockey in the game, you know, game on and car and she's just not paying attention and just slams into his car and just like, I'm okay, it's not even I think even that character, I was like, I've had moments where I'm like in my younger years where I've been like I know where somebody's probably gonna be, so I'm gonna go there and just like be around and be crazy.

So like I relate to all the characters, They've all influenced me about positive and negative ways. Yeah, I think that's something that's really neat about is there's you can see a little of Wayne and yourself. You can see a little of Garth in yourself. You can see a little of Alice Cooper in yourself, you know, you can see a little of Mr Big or something in your life. That there's all these kind of stock characters. It's really easy to connect to and relate to. And I just

think it's a really special movie. And I don't know, is there anything else that really stuck with you about it or anything that we haven't talked about. I mean, it's just been a pleasure talking to you about this movie. I'm trying to think. I will say, like Cassandra and her band shooting that video, I've always wanted to make a video that's like an homage to that with the snake and like Tarzan on the drums with the waterfall cloths in the waterfall. Yeah, and then she's like the

snake is what is it? Like? How did they say? Is that you or the snake or something like that. Then that's the moment where she's like, when ya come out of here? You know, that's when she finally because

you worry about Cassandra too. You worry she's drinking the kool aid and that she's turning to the dark side or something or that she's buying into Benjamin's bullshit, and you know she sort of is, but that's the point that stuff can be alluring, and then you you know, she kind of gets gets gets it back and sees what's really going on and then gets her record deal

on her own terms. Wayne's help, you know. And I love that part where it's just like, you don't need this slimy man being like questionable to do what you need to do. And I think not to get all like feminists on you, but I wish more women knew that, like, you don't have to depend on some guy telling you that you're great to know that you are great, because men don't necessarily need another man telling them that they're

great to have that confidence. But it's just part of society that you almost feel like you need this reassurance from a man that quote unquote knows what they're doing and you don't. You can ride on your talent alone.

And I think that's such an important message, is to believe in yourself like whatever gender you are, but just having that self confidence and not being willing to compromise your integrity and potentially work with people that are slimy and creep you out like you're a talent right on that and have confidence in it, and she does and everything works out great. Not to spoil the ending, but hopefully everyone's listening to the Statute of limitations on spoiling

wings world probably spoil well. I do want to say, like, you know, with again with my daughter, like I see at in her and it's just like it's I feel like, you know, obviously nothing's perfect and things aren't like you know, completely we're living in some sort of post gender world where that stuff doesn't matter, like post racism or all

that ship that's all these kind of imaginary terms. But I do see my kid just knowing who she is at a way earlier than I ever possibly could have, not to mention that she's, you know, a young woman and there's so much more pressure and it's a whole another thing. But like at twelve, I didn't know shit about who I was or what I was going to be or what I liked even and she just owns it so hardcore. And I'm just kind of speaking in general to like, you know, this the genera of this

generation we're talking about. I think there's hope and I think, yeah, I really do, and the fact that she gets Wayne's world makes me have even more hope. Yes, me too. Oh my god, that's going to be the first movie I watched my yet to be determined if I have a child. But if I have one, I'm just going to play Wayne's worldly in the background how they sleep, and I'm gonna watch it on repeat while I'm pregnant. Feminist strength but like softness, and it's just like, it's

just so interesting. I love Cassandra as like her character in that movie is just so epic, like really like such a good role model. Mm hmm, no, completely agree. Um. Some pretty notable fun cameos in this there's Bill Murray's brother plays Noah vander Hoff Brian Doyle Murray. Don't really think about him much, but he is Bill Murray's brother. Which one was he? I didn't, I didn't know. He's Noah's arcade Noah vander Hoff. That is yeah, oh my god, you can see it in his face. Um, but yeah,

they're they're definitely. He's the older brother of Bill Murray. He was also in Caddyshack and Scrooge and Ghostbuster two and Groundhog Day and and a lot of those. Harold Ramos movies that they did together. I know the actor, but I had no idea. Yep. It's when you look at him you can kind of see it. Like we said, Lara flam Boyle Amazing as the you know, psycho Hose

Beast ex girlfriend. We've got meat Loaf as the bouncer at the gas works where he's like, who's playing the nights like so and so so and so in the shitty beatles, like how are they like they suck? Not just a clever name, No, not just a clever name exactly. Uh. And then we do have obviously Alice Cooper playing himself, but all the people in his band, you know who are asking these questions like he's some sort of professor.

Also the real members of his band, Pete Freezing, Uh, he's the one he addresses by name, well Pete you know talking about Milwaukee. Uh, Derek Sharon Shrinian, Steph Burns and Jimmy DeGrasso and they actually are playing on stage and they do that song that was such a big deal for you and and meets you. I mean I just was like, what is this weird? His name is

Alice and he's a dude. Yeah, that's crazy, you know it just like it reminds me of when I first encountered Iggy Pop was in the amazing show The Adventures of Pete and Pete. Oh my god, really, that's so funny played none of the character's dad, and I remember seeing his name in the credits and being like, what kind of a name is this for a human person? And I didn't, you know, my parents were both opera singers, so I kind of found popular music on my own

over time. They didn't really like turn me onto records like most people. I mean, they turned me onto like classical music and stuff, and I played violin from early early age, but I didn't find you know, quote unquote cool music until you know, I was later in my teens. Um. But this soundtrack definitely started branching me off into some interesting stuff. And then you know, Alice Cooper and glam rock and then getting into like t Rex and Bowie of course and all of that. Oh, you're speaking my

language right now. I'm staring at a picture with me and Iggy Pop because we did a song together a couple of years ago, and it's in my studio, so I'm like, best, my god, he's he's I pray sometimes to Iggy and Dolly and Alice, and then if I if I need to, I'll just like I'll text Alice and be like, hey, I'm having He has just given me so much good life advice. And he was the first successful, like mega successful person that gave me the

time of day and wanted to write with me. And it was just like so crazy, and I felt like being like I'm not worthy. Like fully the whole time I was living that fantasy of like I'm so not worthy. And now we're good friends and I'm so lucky to be friends with him because he's such a genuinely amazing person. And I love when that that nice. Wasn't that nice when it works out? Like I mean, not not blown smoke at all the storm, but like I very much feel that way about you. You are very you know,

very down to our, very kind, thoughtful person. And it's I work with a lot of you know, celebrity types whatever,

terrible term, but it is what it is. And some of them are not great people or they're just so you know, up their own kind of like drinking their own cool a that they're just like it's a it's a chore but every time we've had an interaction, it's always been just like a human, lovely conversation, and this has been the best agree And I love that you love Wayn's will, and they love that your daughter secretly loves it too, because I do think it is there's

so many undertones of like believe in yourself and being a feminist, standing up for yourself, not taking ship, but still being kind and having a sense of humor. There's just so much in it to take away if you really want to analyze it, which we've done, or surface level. You get and watch it and it's fun. It's just it's um Kesha. Tell us a little bit about your podcast, Kesha and the Creepies, and who are some exciting guests you've got coming up and where people and find it

um so most recently I'm super excited. But anywhere you listen to podcasts you can catch Cash in the Creepies and it's me talking to interesting people about alternative thought, about anything supernatural, about the unexplainable, spiritual, pretty much whatever the guest wants to talk about. I've talked to Demi Levado about UFOs. I've talked to Alice Cooper I've talked to Dana Carvey. That one wasn't really creepy. He was trying to teach me how to do voices, but it

was wildly entertaining for me at least. I was like living out my five year old fantasy of him trying to teach me how to talk like um Garth, which I've failed at miserably. But if you want to, if you want to see that, it's pretty embarrassing and that is um up for a public consumption. So kesh in the creepies. You can get on the I Heart app, on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. But it's been my new passion project, like it really has been.

So I'm super grateful that you saw the potential and knowing that I could blabber about interesting ship to interesting people and giving me the opportunity. So I always appreciate the opportunity that you've given me because it's really been

a mind expanding experience. It's been really fun, it's been really weird, it's been really creepy, it's been like very scientific, and it's also been really spiritually enlightening and just like it's all the good stuff, you know, like especially during this time when there's so little to be certain about, like hopefully we're coming out of this time, yeah, And just talking to people about how they're coping and what they believe in and what weird experiences they've had, and

it's just been it's been the best. I really think it's saved my quarantine and then to be able to put it out for public consumption has been really fun because maybe if someone's feeling a little bit like they're having an existential crisis, which is my um specialty, they

can join me. And like listening to people talk about their own versions of connecting with the supernatural or DEMI was talking about connecting with UFOs or extraterrestrials, or Gabby Bernstein talking about really just manifesting the best life for you and how to just kind of become spiritually sound

and upcoming. I'm really excited. I talked to Phoebe Bridgers, who I'm such a fan of, and that conversation was so nice and like you were saying, like it was just like a fucking cool conversation with a really really cool person that I respect a lot. So I'm excited for people to hear that and Um, I've I have a bunch coming up, but the one that I most recently did was Phoebe Bridgers, and that was really cool because I knew that one was coming and I'm a fan of a fan of her music, but also just

like her vibe. She's just such a like chill, lovely, very funny, very self um possessed kind of person. She has her thing and she's like a Cassandra, you know, like when she smashed that guitar on SNL and just had this like they've got the Internet going totally nuts, like she's an incredible human person. It would seem and up, Oh my god. Yeah, And you know what's weird tying it all back to Wayne's World because everything always does.

On my first tour because of Wayne's World, I made a bedazzled skeleton outfit and then Phoebe Bridgers performs in a skeleton outfit. So it's just like it all's such full circle to Alice and to Wayne's World. We're not worthy. Indeed, this has been an absolute pleasure, as always is. Um, thanks for hanging out with me on movie crush. Oh my god, anytime. This is great. I can talk about movies all day especially Wayne's World Party, Oh My God

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