Mini Crush #168

one of us. Would you consider him elite? Was he an elite marine? He is? He's one of eighteen three star generals in the Marine Corps. And uh, that's you know, he's almost at the tippy top. And then it goes and I looked this up recently. That's why I'm I know these stats because we were like, jeez, I wonder if he's going to make it to four star and be at the very tippy top. And we're like, surely

he will. But eighteen make three star, three make four star, so fifteen super tippy top marines get told no. So you never know no, So you like you what you say? I want to be a forester to apply or or do someone just like awarded to you based on It's it's you know, it's weird. It's like any other job management system, like you get promotions and raises based on tenure and uh, I mean in that way, it's like

any job. But yeah, he you will. I think eventually you will be up for that promotion like under consideration, and then you either get it or you don't, and you progress in your career or you don't. Interesting. It is interesting. But he's been my and my family since I was a little ten or eleven years old, so you know, I started dating my sister in high school, so he's like my brother. But anyway, the reason I say that is I know that er it was a Marine Corps thing, not even the Hua it went down

to er. Okay, it's just sound and a noise thing they make. I don't know what it means. And there's there's probably former Marines out there listening and laughing at me right now because right in, I don't know how Pacino comes into it except for that movie. Well that's what I'm saying. I just think of it in his voice. It was that sent of a woman. Yeah, I never saw that believe it or not. It's fine. Did they do the voice? You do a decent machino, right, he

got a great that's a good one. You know, people really got to kick out of our herd zg Christoft Waltz and that we had Christoph Walts is on point. My dude, I'm serious. I was blown away. I was not expecting. I want them to do a buddy movie together all of a sudden. That's a great idea. You know. It's a great idea because they both have those kind of fun accents. But one is, you know, Christoph Waltz is so jaunpty and then you've got Hertzog, which is just so dire. I don't know who that was, say

so dire, so die. Yeah, I think it would be a fun combination. Put them in a buddy yeah, a road movie. Yeah, I think that makes sense because, you know, because Christoph Walts is sort of the more upbeat nihilist, you know, and uh and and her is the really like in the fucking Weeds nihilist, you know. But between the yeah, well, because Christoph Walts would be like, it doesn't matter, we could just kill them all, and Vernon Hurtzog would be like it is inevitable. Yeah, exactly. All right,

now this is this is a themed episode? I thought I dropped this on you. Do you have a guess? Oh god, a themed episode? No? Is it? Is it date related? Seasonal? It's nothing related to anything? How could I how could I possibly guess? I don't know. I just thought you might pay attention and see what's going on the movie crush page. Oh I see, I see, I mean, I I scroll. I gotta say I don't do Facebook nearly as much as I used to. Instagram is good, but uh no, this is a tribute to

the movie trailer. I love a movie trailer. Maybe Mike can put together some special music and drop it right here. I would be fabulous. Mike, you did a great job in advance. All right, how about that there was the music? Uh Mike. By the way, everyone, we need to welcome Mike. I don't even think I've mentioned on the show yet. We have a new producer. I'm just getting shuttled around the company like stop yesterday's garbage datted around like a

ball of string once and now. But welcome Mike. Mike's doing a great job, and uh, I can't wait to meet Mike in person. Mike is a lovely guy, really talented musician, great producer, fabulous NPR background, and uh he joined my team recently, um, working on some other stuff, and so it made sense to bring him into this show. Yeah, I used you know, now that I saw the picture of him, I was like, Oh, that's Mike. I remember

seeing Mike around the office. Mike also is one of the founders of an incredible Atlanta based literary event, long running literary event with another guy named Nick Takowski, who is a talented writer who has written podcast stuff for US UM for the show Tomorrow's Monsters starring John Boyega

drop um. But Mike and Nick started this thing called Right Club, UM like fight Club, but right where it's like a pub literary slam kind of event where to writers kind of go up and do pieces, you know, one after the other with a timer, UM and Mike and Nick often m see them and they're very clever and keep it moving. And then with audience applause, you determine who wins, and then there's like a brackety situation where the winner of that one goes up against the

winner of the other winner. Uh. And there's so much fun and really really really talented writer and lovely person. That's welcome and all. You know, we should plug Tomorrow's Monsters too, because that is former guest Dan Bush uh and once it will be future guest again. We're gonna have Dan back. But Dan did a scripted fiction uh series for us called Tomorrow's Monsters starring John Boyega, which which was a great get and I believe that thing.

They're already trying to get that thing option for for TV or film, right absolutely, that's amazing, so cool. Way to go, Dan, give it a shot. Everybody is that three three D audio or is it just reg it's just regular? Okay, all right, nol So let's get it go in here. Uh. The first thing I'm gonna do is give a brief overview of movie trailers and what they are in their history, and on movie Crush, I get to do what I don't get to do on stuff you should know, which is basically just do the

Wikipedia thing. We've never done that on stuff you should know, and that's why it's still the only thing that bugs me about our reviews. And I don't really don't care about reviews at this point, and I never really did. But when I see reviews that say two goods just fucking read Wikipedia pages, that burns me up because we've never used Wikipedia, not even as a source, much less just reading the page. At least, no on your reviews calling you a cock. So you called a cook just

because of the conspiracy thing. There's just so many people that are just like, it's an interesting crowd, so it rubs you. The rubs people the wrong way when we even get remotely political about anything. But it's like, in this day and age, how can you not somewhat talk about these kinds of you know what I mean? So we sort of we pissed some people off. But I want to know why is it called a trailer? I hope you got I know you'll get there, chuck out. It's the first thing out of is uh. They used

to be shown after the movie. They used to trail the movie, and that's why they were called trailers right there. But they learned pretty quickly that no one gave a ship and didn't stick around, and so they said maybe we should frontload these things. And so then you know, back in the day, they used to have uh, cartoons and newsreels and stuff like that before movies, and that was all a part of it. So they just started including the trailer at the front loaded bit of the movie,

which is of course what they still do today. It says here that the very first trailer was in November nine when an advertising manager for the low theater chain, Marcus Lowe, produced a short promotional film for the movie The Pleasure Seekers. So the very first I think it was on Broadway, but the very first movie trailer was The Pleasure Seekers. So if anyone ever asked you a triviae question, you can keep that in your hip pocket. Was that about a bunch of sex addicts? Uh? Doubt it? Okay,

not in uh. And it says here that they called it in the newspaper The Nebraska Daily Star. They called it an entirely new and unique stunt, and that moving pictures of the rehearsals and other incidents connected with the production will be sent out in advance of the show, to be presented at Loews Picture Houses and will take the place of much of the billboard advertising. So that this they thought they were going to do away with billboards, which they of course did not do. You don't see

him a lot outside of Los Angeles a little bit. Yeah, occasionally it's but you're right, it is very l a centric thing and and largely seeming to be like almost industry facing, you know, or for like awards season. Yeah, it's definitely there's some ego involved to have your movie on the big billboard there on the sunset strip. Now, now that's that's not to say that New York is another big one. First with subway ads. You know, you see him in subways a lot in New York. True,

that is very true. Uh. It also says until the late nineteen fifties, UM trailers were mostly uh done by the National Screen Service, and it basically just pulled out some some key scenes with big large text with music. Like those early trailers were a little bit rough. If you see those old trailers. In the sixties, they got a little bit different because they got rid of the text and started doing these montages instead of just like a scene from a movie, and started editing these things together.

And this basically the sixties was when we saw the birth of what we kind of know as the movie trailer today. Uh. In ninety three they started showing them online. I remember in the early days of the internet, going to Apple movie trailers every week to watch those movie

trailers because I loved because that was a good thing. Yeah, that that sort of fell by the wayside a little bit didn't now sort of because YouTube came along, I think and kind of just took over because if you want to watch any movie trailer, you can just type it into YouTube. But I used to love going to Apple movie trailers. That was a regular thing for me. I guess I'd just see him pop up shared, you know, and like Instagram stories are like Facebook post, people just

like share it when any trailer comes out. But I don't go like trolling form every week. But that was a nice little ritual. I did the same thing. Uh. There are dozens of companies down the United States that make movie trailers, course based in New York and l A mainly, and uh, there's sort of like many ad agencies as almost, and a lot of times they're working from the the dailies, like they're they're cutting these things

together before the movie is even finished. So that's why sometimes you will see scenes and bits that don't make it into the final film they're in the trailer, which can be confusing. Yeah, I mean, it really is an art, and nothing worse than I mean, I'm sure there's you know, people say this all the time, there's nothing worse than a movie trailer that like spoils the movie, um, which which can happen? I don't know. That's why I say

there's an art. I think there's like and there's also like there's the long form trailer, and there's like the teaser trailer, which is you're going to get into. Yeah. Absolutely, I like a good teaser. Uh. And you know, some times they can use that to their advantage and all they can they can true, if you have like one person in your movie that's a big star that's in like one scene, they might play that up a lot more and then you'll get in there and be like,

they're not even in the movie. So uh, you know. Now it's a part of the fabric of going to a movie. There's like twenty minutes of that stuff. And in the big, big movies and now nol as you know, for the big, big, highly anticipated trailers, some people might even buy a ticket to a movie just to see that trailer, like the New Star Wars trailer or whatever, because they know it's going to be front loaded at the beginning of whatever big Tin Bowl movie is out.

That's right, And that's usually like the exclusive where you see it there in the theater for the first time before even they like put it on TV or something like that. Yeah, which is really interesting. I mean the notion of someone buying a ticket to a movie just to see that trailer. I mean, I would think they would stay for the movie, but you never know, people might even leave Noel, which is very strange. Hmm yep, that's very weird. But I had a couple of questions.

I posted the movie Crushers on the trailer Front and they really got into it. The first one is very simple, Noll, what is one movie trailer that you will never forget seeing? Oh my goodness Blair Blair, Which is a good one for me because and we've talked about the great viral campaign they did leading up to that movie. I'll never forget that movie trailer because it just uh enthralled me because I was tricked. I was just like, oh my god,

it's a real is it not? So? I remember, like even the night that I saw that trailer, do you have one? I can't think of a trailer like that that that that really blew blew me out of the water. I mean I wish I could. I'm gonna think about it as I hear some more from from the from the Crushers. I'm sure some of these will will trigger you in a good way. Joe bomb Gardner says Jurassic Park an adventure sixty million years in the a King.

He says he was fresh off reading the book as a young teen and seeing the ripples in the water glass blew my mind. I was gonna say that one actually, but I couldn't remember what about it was memorable to me, But that is I definitely distinctly remember that part in the trailer. You know how they did that water glass trick. I think most people know this by now, I don't

tell me. Well, they wanted the perfect center out ripple, as if it's coming from the center, and they they had a guitar string at the bottom of that glass, and they were plucking a guitar string. When you say at the bottom of the glass, you mean some kind of like like vibrating through the surface that it was, well, I think they strung it through the bottom of the glass. You know, they got they built a special glass with a guitar string through the bottom of the glass as

if it was you know, strung guitar. I see like vertically, not horizontally vertical, like like attached on the top and then pulled taught from the bottom and plucked. And then it makes sense because that's exactly that makes I did not know that, chuck, And that's fascinating that that that that's exactly what the fact would do. I think. I think that's right. This is all from memory. So if I got it wrong, I'm sorry. But that's really cool.

That's really cool. And it also makes you think like if they experimented with different string gages and like, because you know, they really wanted the perfect thing for that shot because it was such an iconic shot. Um. Linda Baccaleo, one of our friends, says, easy, thank you for asking the Watchmen before one of the Batman movies, Deep Cut Smashing Pumpkin Song is the music definitely helped because as soon as that came on, all of my senses perked

up and I became immediately entranced with the entire thing. Yeah, I think, especially if you're a Watchman fan, to see that come to life. I remember that trailer it was. It was a big deal. Yeah it was. It was Eric as Sims says, Lord of the Rings. My sixteen year old brain was very ready to nerd out on a well made version of a well of book series. Uh. Also, also, I was horny and there's some hot guys in it, and I didn't yet know what to do with that energy.

So I saw this in the theater five times. That's very cute, Carrie Stones has Transformers transported me back in time to my childhood, even though it was only a black screen and a voice. Yeah, that was a big movie for a lot of people. I mean, it wasn't very good, But I mean, were you too old for that stuff? Or was that in your alley? No? I think that that kind of that kind of passed me by. Did it really when you were a kid? I just

didn't Maybe it was before your time? Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. Uh, let me see another Jurassic Park Tony Cox is the Matrix? Do you remember that one? The Matrix is one that I remember seeing the poster for that it was coming and I thought it looked really interesting. But I so again, I'm not a distinct memory for like, oh, I'm so excited about the Matrix because of the trailer. Ny says, it was fourteen watching TV in my bedroom. The trailer

came on. It was so different to anything else i'd seen. Ran out of the living room and said, Mom, I think I found a movie we'll all enjoy. It looks amazing. Sure, I remember that one because it did look different. I think I remember seeing that that scrolling green stuff, that code that looked cool, and that got me sort of right out of the gate. And that was really the first use of that kind of three sixty bullet time effect,

wasn't it. That really was created that for that movie, and it got done to death and kind of went away. I don't. I mean, people don't even do that anymore much, do they. It's well, it's something that Zack Snyder is quite fond of. He still does it. I mean, not the three sixty spin, but just like the hyper slow mo bullet time, they're they're sort of I'm sort of

combining two tropes. Because the thing that in the Matrix that was very specific was the spin around where they have like a ring of cameras that we're all filming. That technology is so cool. It was so cool and but the thing is like, once you've seen it in the Matrix, then you see in other places it almost starts to feel a little hackney and kind of cliche. And honestly, I rewatched The Matrix recently and it is a victim of its own genius by it looking a

little dated now because of that effect. But it's like that they're the ones who did it, you know, not to me. I still think it looks good, but that's just my take. Yeah, total, have you seen the new trailers? Speaking of trailers for Army of the Dead in Zack Snyder? Wait, what is this? No, no, no, I don't know what

it is? This like another like it just dropped. It's a New Dead movie and uh it's Evil Dead or like like Dead series but has Tig Nataro in it as as a toughie and the it's a heist zombie movie. So the idea is that there's this money in Vegas after the zombie apocalypse that this elite team is of like former soldiers, has to go get and then fight off an army of zombies to get it, and it looks like a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

I like seeing her do that. She's happy, great for it. Man, Like, she has a really good look for that movie, and that kind of she's all like loaded down with like you know, like a bandalro type, you know, like gun cartridges. What do you call those looks? Very cool? Yeah, that's the word. That's the word, gun cartridges. I'm clearly not a gun person. Clearly more of a video game person

than a gun person. Uh. Steve Rothogg says the teaser for clover Field, that one definitely sold some movie tickets, even without saying the title of the movie. Yeah, I remember that. That was a brilliant campaign. I do agree. Lisa Pollutzi says the Force awakens after the disappointing prequels, this felt more like the original trilogy. Totally. Yep. That one gave me chills. Actually, oh boy, I remember this one. Roger Dodgers says the original Alien was nine or ten.

That teaser came out airing on TV. It scared me so much. O't run out of the room. Yeah in space, no one can hear you scream. One of the great taglines. I think we've talked about that, Chuck. That's one that just exists so singularly that I never even associated with a movie. I always thought it was from like a old episode of the Twilight Zone, like something that had just been around forever. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great tag I wonder who wrote that. It's such an art form,

you know, to write a good tagline. Totally. Let me see Katie Howard clar says Cliffhanger, that awful Stallone movie. I was twelve when the combination of music and heights still gives me sweaty palms. I never saw that, did you. No. I think it's that's one of those movies that it is what it is. I don't think it pretended to be high art or anything. Absolutely, but I'm surprised I didn't see it. Mcmcdonnod says, there will be blood. I don't think I've ever been more excited to see a

movie after the trailer. That's a good point, because it had that really a testing Johnny Greenwood choppy like you know, strings in it, beauty shots and no man so cool. That's a great trailer. It was also one of the ones where you're like, I don't quite know what this is about, but you knew there was some oil involved a little bit, and it was just like you know, lots of tense faces and very very well. And it

was Paul Thomas Anderson. If you were already a fan of him, seeing him dive into a completely different world, then you had seen him working before this this period. That would have been his first period piece, which now kind of is his bread and butter. But that's exactly what that was, wasn't Yeah, totally. I can't wait for his new movie. What is it? What do you know about it? He's going back to the seventies, I think with um. I think it's a movie about a former

child star actor or something in the valley. I think he's going back to his roots a bit. It looks great. Oh, here's a player with the project, Matthew Fober memorable one. Since it was at the time, we didn't realize it wasn't really y. Yeah, there wasn't really any precedent for that kind of found footage movie. Boy, those guys turned out to be not great filmmakers. Though, what else did they did they do? And I know there was that second Blair Witch, but I didn't think they had anything

to do with it, did they? That was our old pal Joe Berlinger. The documentary filmmaker who I had on movie Crush, who did the Ted Bundy movie with Zac Efron. He you know what his claims to shame that he laughs about now is he made that second Blair Witch movie and he's a great filmmaker. And he talked a little bit about why it stunk and how they took it away from him and he didn't get to do the movie he wanted to do. And a lot of times you hear that and you think, yeah, whatever, But

I totally believe Joe because he's a really good filmmaker. Absolutely, no, no, And I you know, I there were things about that movie that I liked when I was young. I did rewatch it more recently and it is quite quite quite bad. I didn't say, yeah, I saw the Book of Shadows I remember seeing in the theaters when I was younger. Yeah. I told Joe I didn't see it, and he was like, good, don't. Justin Ratliffe says the Shining, Timothy Hendrick says Joker. Yeah,

Joker was a really good trailer. It was it was simple to write, it didn't give away ship. It was almost Oh. There's also the thing that there's a style of trailer where it's like it's its own I guess that is the teaser where it's very much its own thing, where they've shot something that really doesn't exist anywhere else outside this little trailer, you know. Troy Nolan says Independence Day. So does cat Haven's Witten, and Troy says, I believe it debut during the Super Bowl one year, and I

remember thinking, holy shit, that looks awesome. But it turned out to be kind of corny. I didn't really like that movie much, did you. Oh? I loved it. I loved it when I was a kid, But I think again, it's an age thing. You know, you were probably the right perfect age. I was just the right age. I I thought it was great. I very much enjoyed it. All right, we'll finish up this movie. Trailer you're never gonna forget seeing with Ivy Hutchinson, Hutchinson saying Fury Road.

Oh boy, I remember seeing that trailer, dude, and I was just absolutely I was so just put it in my neck, man, and it was great. It lived up to it. I think I saw that three times in the theater, dude. I did at least see it twice in the theater. That one was just an absolute just treasure. And I don't do that anymore. I don't go see movies more than once in the theater because my time is so limited for for movie going. But I did

and it was worth it. Yeah, I do it. You know, it's got to be a real hum dinger, as Lucy all Ball would say, hum dinger, all right now, and then we're gonna move on to this what And this is sort of along the same lines as those movie trailers that that might pump up one character who's not even in it. What movie trailer totally misled you, because that can happen in terms of a twist, well, in

terms of a lot of stuff. And I think the crushers get it because this is sort of I've been reading through these they sort of encapsulate the different ways in which you can be misled. Ian Bowers's Drive. It marketed itself like a fast and furious clone. Yeah yah ya ya, yeah uh And it was not that. No, it was not that. And and and sometimes that can absolutely backfire, right, you know, like it can like like that movie Mother for example, which was then seen that I fucking loved it. Um.

It is a difficult movie. It is what many would probably consider very art cy and pretentious, but I just found it very arresting and it like really took my breath away, literally, and it's just it goes places that you're not expecting and it really goes their heart. But it was marketed like a thriller, right, and it is not that at all. It is a high art very um what's the word, almost like a like a parable like where like an allegorical kind of thing where there's

stock characters that represent different things. It is not what it looked like at all. Mother, And it pissed people off because it was looking like, oh, from the creator of this other kind of edgy movie Dream or whatever, Requiem for a Dream comes Mother, an exercise and Terror more or less interesting. It's just one of those movies. I never got around to you. Yeah, I recommend it. Uh Adam had Dad says the trailer for the first

Suicide Squad. Whoever edited that should totally be the go to trailer editor for all movies because it looked like it was gonna be awesome and it was a horrible mess. Yeah, Suicide Squad look great in that trailer. I didn't see the movie though. It's such a fun concept and the characters are neat. I I hold out hope for the new one, um, because yeah, there there's something there, but

that one just it was just a mess. It was like it felt like it was made by committee and that like they had to have rush a bunch of things and make things into montages that were never meant to be and just like like it just covered it with music because clearly they were using that to cover edits and time jumps and things. It was just, you know,

very clearly a real mess. Uh. One of our oldest friends, Minal Data says and I la san poorly marketed as an action movie, but luckily I ended up loving it as another sci fi hit from Alex Garland. I loved Annihilation. I thought it was killer. I thought it was fantastic, and anything Alex Garland does I'm down for. Yeah, that's a multi part thing though the books, right, Annihilation, that's one part of several part book series, if I'm not mistaken, um.

And I think the movie maybe didn't do well enough to justify making more. Probably I don't think it was a big hit, and I think it was a bit of miss marketing. I don't think I think it did look like sort of like Predator or something. And it's not that it's not. It's another one that gets very high art and surreal. But I thought one things I lead about that movie was the set design and like all of the like weird fungus kind of textures and stuff. Yeah,

it was really. Here's the thing though, man, if you know your filmmakers, Like if you're just a regular sort of average movie goer who doesn't pay attention that much to filmmakers and stuff, you might get full. But if you know, like who Alex Garland is or who was it that did drive um oh oh, Nicholas winding Refin. Yeah, like you know, he's not going to make a fast and furious movie. Uh so you should be suspicious of those trailers, you know what I mean? Right, you know,

I agree. But that's the thing though. Those trailers are designed to trick the Norman's you know, and and the But to me, that's why it'll backfire, because then of course they're going to shoot all over because it does not She's going to go down and furious. Jordan Wang says every movie trailer is misleading by the very nature of what advertisers are trying to do. I don't know if I agree with that. Jordan's um, they're trying to sell a movie, and I don't I think sometimes they

I feel like they have to mislead. But I don't think every movie trailer is misleading, do you, No, I don't think so. I think, like I said this, We've been talking about this whole time. I think some of them do it justice. It's an art to it because you don't want to spoil it, you don't want to mislead, and you don't want to bore people either. So there's like you really had enough fine line between all those things, all right. But Jordan does say Cabin in the Woods

was one of the most egregious of these. I think that was purposeful. I think they wanted to sort of hould wink you for Cabin in the Woods because you can't you can't give away anything in that trailer because the whole thing is about that twist is the thing? Right. Yeah. I saw that again not too long ago, and it's a very fun movie. It really truly is. David Rumor says Overlord seemed like a badass to a World War two movie. Sure, Yeah, they didn't show a lot of

the horror movie imagery in the trailer. Did you see Overlord? I loved it. I did see if that's the Nazi movie that kind of pivots right, It's it's sort of like starts out one way and then like all of a sudden, it's this other thing. Yeah, I don't know about loved it. I quite enjoyed it, though. Jonathan Cooley says, I'm gonna go with Scream totally thrown off by Drew Barrymore not being the lead. Well, that was very much

purposeful too, pulled the rug out from underneath you. Yeah, and it's obviously a nod to Janet Lee, you know, being bumped off in Psycho so quickly being a big star. Spoilers Noel for Psycho. I'm just kidding, boy, that was an eye roll and a half that I just got. Uh No, it's just I've get to get yelled at for spoilers. But I think there should be a statute

of limitations. Here's what I haven't seen yet and a shresths one of our old friends says the Art of Self Defense trailer looked like a fun black comedy with Jesse Eisenberg. It was a really fucking dark, weird and disturbing film. I didn't see that. I think because of the trailer. I can see either. I need to check that out. It's supposed to be good. A Lisa Adams says, Silver Linings Playbook trailer made it seem way more of a comedy than it was. I liked it, but it

was not what I expected. Yeah, I could agree with that. Oh here we go, No with the Mother the good, David Gooch, This trailer made it look like a psychological horror thriller. Instead, it was a weird dream like Bible parable. You said it, Yeah, I did, I did. I gotta see that movie. Why do people hate it because of a lot of a lot of it is because of

the feeling mislead. I believe, you know, if you go into something expecting one thing and then you get something the polar opposite, you're gonna be You're gonna feel, you know, manipulated in some way. I think, Well, Jonathan Cooley when a world friend says, uh, David Gooch, I hated this almost as much as I hated Midsummer Interesting and coolly rewatched Midsummer and hated it. More just wasn't for him that happens. I want to rewatch Midsummer I have not

done so yet. You saw the first one first time, and we talked about it, but I really want to rewatch it as well. I recommended I liked it better the second time. Kate kittleson Marley and Me unbelievable bait and switch. I would not have watched it if I knew the truth going in, because it's sad times, right. Yeah, Emily and I watched Marley and Me until the scene because you know, we're big, big dog people, and we watched the scene until um it was like, Mommy, why

are Marley's legs buckling? And then turned it off and went, well that was good. Yeah, we certainly enjoyed the first hour of that movie. Animal sads are the most triggering of sads. Yeah, Animal and kids SAIDs I can't do that kids stuff, man give me like uh Florida project or Beasts of the Southern wild Man. That stuff just rerects me. Hmm. Hans Bronzel says Hereditary remember seeing the trailer, not being interested enough to see it in theaters. Fast

forward about a year. I picked it up on Blue Ray to flea market for cheap and I tried out Mother of God. That movie twisted my stomach around so much I couldn't finish it until the next day. One of my favorite horror movies. I actually think the trailer

was really successful. It made really good use of that sound, and he used it to ratchet up the tension, and you see her do it once, and you keep hearing it, and they keep adding reverb to it, and it gets like just more and more weird and kind of like trippy sounding. Um. I thought that was a very good trailer. Actually, how do you too? Robbie Pools is the Matrix fooled him because he thought it was some alien invasion, superheroes save the World thing going on. Yeah, I guess you

could see how that could have been. You could be misled by that. Jason Lewis's Gods Lewis's Kong, I expected a bit more in the beginning. It felt like it was trying to hide them in plain sight. Compared to the trailer. I don't understand. How can you be confused about what that movie is going to be about? Like, well, I mean, he's I don't know, he just says a I don't know. He says he feels like that they were trying to hide the monsters too much in the movie.

I disagree. I thought they were like just trotting them out. They were like, I mean, it was really the focus of the movie for me, um in a way that was very self aware, and I appreciate it. You know, there was a lot of big monster bashes. I can't wait, I'm all about it, Wendy White's Shawshank Redemption. I totally had no idea what the movie was about, and I hadn't read the book yet. M hmm. Yeah, I mean, I I don't remember what the trailer was, like, it's

been too long, but obviously love that movie. Sam Comber says a trailer to adventure Land made it seem like super Bad and an amusement park, and it very very ain't that. I really enjoyed adventure Land. Did you see that movie? I did. It's a very sweet, kind of coming of age type thing, almost right. I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was really good and very underseen. Yeah, exactly one of Kristen Stewart's lesser known but I think better performances. In my mind. I was just like, is

Kristin Stewart in that she is isn't her? And Jesse Eisenberg it absolutely is not. Yes, it is Okay, I was losing it, Yeah she was. She was really good in that. Maybe that's why I don't remember. Ryan Reynolds was in at Martin Starr, Bill Hayter and Kristen Wegg. Where the Yeah, Where the Bosses. It was a really good movie. M all right, Let's do a couple of more here. Eternal Sunshine from Leam Butler trailer head Mr. Blue Sky playing all the way through was really a beat.

The trailer played at as a very typical Jim Carrey comedy. Yeah. I think that happens a lot, especially when you have a Jim Carrey doing something large different. They're gonna be like, we got we we got Jim Carey. We can't squander this Jim Carey opportunity. Totally, totally, totally Uh. Former and future guest Cole Stratton, one of our old pals, who is I love it that coal was so active here on the on the board, he said the Twister trailer, when that tire hurdles at the viewer, which wasn't in

the movie, that's the first cinema bait and switch. I can remember being perplexed by you remember that what hurdles that the viewer the tire at the very end of the Uh. And my old buddy Ward Jenkins, he was one of my brother's good friends in high school. He I didn't know, Uh he was a crusher, so welcome.

But he also says Twister because he worked in the theater at the time, and he said Twister is the first trailer that he remembers that had that stinger at the end, like where you think the trailer is over and then you get that last thing. And I think he might be right. I don't remember any other movie before Twister. And he even posted the trailer and I rewatched it and I was like, yeah, man, that Twister

trailer was great. And at the very end, it gives that stinger of a truck being flipped in an attire, coming right at the camera, kind of crashing through the windshield. And that was not in the movie. And that's what I was talking about earlier. Sometimes they're using footage that they do not use in the film itself. That is very interesting example. But now you're right that little you know fake out where it's like you even see no,

I know what it is. It is usually after the title comes up, but before the final like um, you know, freeze frame of the credits basically you know what I mean at the very end. Yeah, mean, if you haven't noticed, trailers are very of the moment, like everyone does sort of the same thing for a while, kind of like

movie posters. It becomes sort of the way you're doing it for a time, and then it switches and there's sort of a new thing that you do for a while, and those those stings became very much a part of sort of the modern trailer thing. I think it can be effective. I think it can be too. You kind of wait on them now though, and sometimes they don't happen, especially in the horror movie ones, like you're like, all right, what's gonna happen here at the end? Is the girl

going to come out of the closet with a knife screaming? Yeah? But then it's like it's like subverting the subversion of the expectation, Yeah, exactly, Like everyone knows that they're waiting all right, No, well that's gonna wrap this one up our little movie or owed two movie trailers and uh, there's a lot of fun. I'm doing a little steamer every now and then. I love it too, and I want to say, uh, kudos to people that really treat

this like an art for them. You can definitely tell the difference, you know what I mean when one is made by committee or it's like you know, clearly designed to mislead, but like a really good movie trailer is a lovely thing. I think, yeah, And I think the misleading ones, especially like with Drive, is when the studio knows we got some art house garbage that no, you can't. You gotta sell it as something else just for that first weekend. We gotta get some asses in the seats

to try and make some of our money back. And then the filmmakers, I'm sure hate that. You know, they're really like the Paul Thomas Anderson's they have trailer control too. Huh. That's and that's that's why we talked so much about that there will be blood trailer because of in and of itself, is uh an absolute little little mini work of art. Totally absolutely all right, good stuff everyone, Thanks for chiming in, and thank you Noel for everything that you do for this show. But just as a human

in the world. Hey man, YouTube brother and I appreciate it all right, We'll see you all next week. Movie Crash. It's produced and written by Charles Bryant and Roll Brown, edited and engineered by Seth MS Johnson, and scored by Noel Brown here in our home studio at punksty Market, Atlanta, Georgia. For I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for my heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.